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0 Subject: LMSCL -- All Bids

Posted by: Shak
- [481029813] Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 18:01

Ending 9am Thursday
1) Burleson/Ednecks
Sporting Woodies 3 years
Trashhaulers 4 years

2) Foster/Belly
Ednecks 5 years
Woodies 5 years
RBP 5 years

3) M. Robinson/STB
Taco 2 years

4) Muhammad/Woodies
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Thursday
1) R. Wayne/STB
Stonecutters 4 years

2) A Bryant/Woodies
Gamblers 2 years

3) C Brown/Taco
Belly 2 years
Reaper 2 years
Woodies 3 years

Ending 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Woodies 2 years
Trash 4 years

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

3) D Clark/STB
Gamblers 2 years

4) E Johnson/Trash
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
1Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 18:28
Burleson 4 year bid
2Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 21:03
9:00 pm Wed 8/17

Trent Green 2 year bid
3Shak
      ID: 1911172611
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 21:34
Ending 9am Thursday
1) Burleson/Ednecks
Sporting Woodies 3 years
Trashhaulers 4 years
Stonecutters 4 years

2) Foster/Belly
Ednecks 5 years
Woodies 5 years
RBP 5 years

3) M. Robinson/STB
Taco 2 years

4) Muhammad/Woodies
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Thursday
1) R. Wayne/STB
Stonecutters 4 years

2) A Bryant/Woodies
Gamblers 2 years

3) C Brown/Taco
Belly 2 years
Reaper 2 years
Woodies 3 years

Ending 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Woodies 2 years
Trash 4 years

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

3) D Clark/STB
Gamblers 2 years

4) E Johnson/Trash
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years

2) Bruce/Trash
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
4Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 22:20
D. Branch 2 year bid
5STB
      ID: 9701611
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 00:07
C. Brown, RB, Titans... 5 years
6STB
      ID: 9701611
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 00:08
Nate Burleson, WR, Vikes, 5 years
7Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 00:14
Ending 9am Thursday
1) Burleson/Ednecks
Sporting Woodies 3 years
Trashhaulers 4 years
Stonecutters 4 years
STB 5 years

2) Foster/Belly
Ednecks 5 years
Woodies 5 years
RBP 5 years
Belly resigns Foster to 5+1

3) M. Robinson/STB
Taco 2 years

4) Muhammad/Woodies
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Thursday
1) R. Wayne/STB
Stonecutters 4 years

2) A Bryant/Woodies
Gamblers 2 years

3) C Brown/Taco
Belly 2 years
Reaper 2 years
Woodies 3 years
STB 5 years

Ending 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Woodies 2 years
Trash 4 years

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

3) D Clark/STB
Gamblers 2 years

4) E Johnson/Trash
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years

2) Bruce/Trash
Belly 2 years

3) Branch
Reaper 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
Foster (Belly)
8Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 00:15
I Bruce 2 year bid
9Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 00:54
I will match the I Bruce bid.
10STB
      ID: 9701611
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 01:24
I will match the Dallas Clark bid
11STB
      ID: 9701611
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 01:45
I will match the Dallas Clark bid
12gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 05:37
Dallas Clark - 4 years
13gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 05:48
Bid 2 years on LaBrandon Toefeld - Jax.

If this doesn't count as the 4th for 9pm Weds, then please count it as one for 9am thurs - I can't access from work.

Thanks
14Sporting Woodies
      ID: 52726167
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 08:14
I will bid 5 years for Chris Brown
16Sporting Woodies
      ID: 52726167
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 08:34
I bid 3 years on Trent Green, we can not let Green go for 2 years.
17Stonecutters
      ID: 38739317
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 09:01
9:00 AM Thursday Aug 18th

K Collins 2 year bid
18Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 09:19
I going to resign Burleson to 5+1...Off the market
19Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 09:21
Warrick Dunn 4 year bid
20Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 09:47
Ended 9am Thursday
1) M. Robinson/STB
Taco 2 years

2) Muhammad/Woodies
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Thursday
1) R. Wayne/STB
Stonecutters 4 years

2) A Bryant/Woodies
Gamblers 2 years

3) C Brown/Taco
Belly 2 years
Reaper 2 years
Woodies 3 years
STB 5 years
Woodies 5 years

Ending 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Woodies 2 years
Trash 4 years
Edneck 4 years

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

3) D Clark/STB
Gamblers 2 years
Gamblers 4 years

4) E Johnson/Trash
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years
Woodies 3 years

2) Bruce/Trash
Belly 2 years
Stone 2 years
Clyde 2 years

3) Branch
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
Foster (Belly)
Burleson (Edneck)
21Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 11:28
Ed N, I will have to get back to you later this weekend. I just had three liters of fluid pumped in me and now am on some anit-nausea meds that will keep me comatose for awhile. I just don't have the energy to do research. I will shoot you an offer later.

Mike
22Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 19:29
Ending 9am Saturday

4) Baltimore 2 year Bid
23STB
      ID: 445542910
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 20:03
R Wayne is already off the market
24Stonecutters
      ID: 207101820
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 21:12
9:00 pm Thurs Aug 18

D Bennett 2 years
25Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 00:02
Ending 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Woodies 2 years
Trash 4 years
Edneck 4 years

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

3) D Clark/STB
Gamblers 2 years
Gamblers 4 years

4) E Johnson/Trash
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years
Woodies 3 years

2) Bruce/Trash
Belly 2 years
Stone 2 years
Clyde 2 years

3) Branch
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years

4) Ravens/
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years

Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
Foster (Belly)
Burleson (Edneck)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco)
Muhammad (Belly)
A Bryant (Gamblers)
C Brown (Woodies)
26STB
      ID: 9701611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 02:00
i will match the 4 years for Dallas Clark
27RBP
      ID: 246551918
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 02:01
Ravens 2 year match
28STB
      ID: 9701611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 02:22
Collins, 2 year match
29STB
      ID: 9701611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 02:45
I will match E. Johnson 2 years
Kerry Collins, QB, Raiders, 3 years
30Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 09:36
Bills 2 years (Sat 9 PM)
31Softunderbelly
      ID: 481029813
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 09:46
Ended 9am Friday
1) Dunn/Stone
Edneck 4 years (higher priority)

2) Brady/STB
Trash 5 years

Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years
Woodies 3 years

2) Bruce/Clyde
Belly 2 years
Stone 2 years
Clyde 2 years

3) Branch/Branch
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years
STB 3 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years

4) Ravens/RBP
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years
Belly 3 years

Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years

Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper)
Wayne (STB)
Foster (Belly)
Burleson (Edneck)
D Clark (STB)
E Johnson (STB)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco)
Muhammad (Belly)
A Bryant (Gamblers)
C Brown (Woodies)
32Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 09:59
Jim, I noticed a few teams are bidding contract years they don't have. Can we somehow update the teams remaining contract years on this thread?
33Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 10:21
I will match the 2 year contract on Vinatieri

Here is what was posted before the bidding began.

RFA Priority List and 5-, 4-, 3-year contracts available:
1. Phish 3/2/0
2. Stonecutters 3/2/0
3. Ednecks 3/2/0
4. Grim Reaper 3/1/0
5. Gumsellers 3/2/0
6. Trashhaulers 3/2/0
7. Super Clyde 3/2/0
8. Sporting Woodies 3/0/2
9. Softunderbelly 3/2/0
10. Gridiron Gamblers 3/2/0
11. STB Irish 3/2/0
12. RBP 3/0/0

Reaper now has 2/1/0 - Witten
STB now has 0/2/0 - Wayne, D. Clark , E. Johnson
Belly now has 2/2/0 - Foster
Edneck now has 2/2/0 - Burleson
Woodies now has 2/0/2 - C. Brown

All of the other contracts were 2 year deals if I looked correctly. Let me know if there were any mistakes. I will shoot you an offer tonight Ed N.
34Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 11:39
9 am Friday Aug 19th
LJ Smith 2 years

35Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 11:39
K Collins 4 years
36STB
      ID: 9701611
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 12:04
Superclydes:

My contract status should be:
2/1/0
5 years was used on Wayne
4 years was used on Dallas Clark

E. Johnson is not my guy, I believe he was on Trash's team.
37Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:08
Sorry, just went off what was posted above.

38Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:34
This is a little confusing to me also, I don't know who has priority after players are picked up?
i noticed people making bids on players without an available contract also.

Somehow we need to stop, let Shak update the priority list and bids after each time deadline?

I'm new to this process and I've seen a few mistakes made by the veterans, so it must be confusing?
39Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:43
MAking bids on players with No available contract:
STB-Collins 3Years
Belly-Ravens 3 years

Unless your allowed and I read the rules wrong again?
40Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 14:50
I am not sure how that would work either. Unless you can throw bids out there in case you get beat out in another. That doesn't seem particularly fair though.

Comments from the commish?

Sorry Tim, I just went with resigned by original owner was a 5-year contract. You did sign Clark to a four year contract.
41Stonecutters
      ID: 38739317
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 14:56
This is from our bylaws. Basically if an owner doesn't have a 3,4,5 year bid then they can't throw one out. If they have at least 1 they can throw multiple bids out for that time frame. Once their 3,4,5 year contracts are used up then all bids that are currently out on RFAs for that time frame are voided.

c) Owners may place bids on more players than they have available contracts. Once an owner uses up his allotment of 5-, 4-, or 3-year contracts, all remaining bids for that length will be voided. For instance, if the Phish has just one 4-year contract available, he may place 4-year bids on several different players in hopes of getting one. If he is awarded a 4-year RFA, the remaining 4-year bids are voided. He must accept the first 4-year RFA he is awarded (based on bid deadline, then time of his bid). Owners may not make a bid if they do not have an available contract of that length.
42Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:10
Mike, I'm not complaining, just a little concerned i'm missing something.
43Softunderbelly
      ID: 481029813
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:26
Wow, you guys have been especially active this morning. Let me address the issues.

1) I was confused (happens often) when STB said match 2 year offer for E Johnson. Let's reserve the term "match" for owners that want to resign their RFA. Since EJ belonged to Trash and he did not "match", then Belly is awarded EJ due to pecking order.

2) I will update the pecking order and available contracts.

3) I will void bids made by owners that didn't have the slot available. Good catch.
44Softunderbelly
      ID: 481029813
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:33
Ending 9pm Friday
1) T Green/Gumsellers
Stone 2 years
Woodies 3 years

2) Bruce/Clyde
Belly 2 years
Stone 2 years
Clyde 2 years

3) Branch/Branch
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years
Stone 4 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years

4) Ravens/RBP
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years

Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years

Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) LJ Smith/
Stone 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
45Softunderbelly
      ID: 481029813
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:35
Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip
2. Stonecutters
3. Grim Reaper
4. Gumsellers
5. Trashhaulers
6. Super Clyde
7. Gridiron Gamblers
8. STB Irish
9. RBP
10. Sporting Woodies
11. Edneck
12. Softunderbelly
46Softunderbelly
      ID: 481029813
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:41
Contracts Available
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Stonecutters 3/2/0
3. Ednecks 2/1/0
4. Grim Reaper 2/1/0
5. Gumsellers 3/2/0
6. Trashhaulers 2/2/0
7. Super Clyde 3/2/0
8. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
9. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
10. Gridiron Gamblers 3/2/0
11. STB Irish 2/1/0
12. RBP 3/0/0
47Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 17:16
Thanks Shak..helps out big time..
48Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 17:20
Eagles 2 year bid
49STB
      ID: 07491919
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 20:50
T. Green, QB, Chiefs, 4 yrs
50Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 00:14
Ending 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years
Stone 4 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years
Ednecks 2 years

4) Ravens/RBP
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years

Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years

Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) LJ Smith/Gamblers
Stone 2 years

Ending 9pm Sunday
Steelers/STB
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Bruce (Stone 2)
Branch (Reaper 2)
51Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 00:20
Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Grim Reaper 2/1/0
3. Gumsellers 3/2/0
4. Trashhaulers 2/2/0
5. Super Clyde 3/2/0
6. Gridiron Gamblers 3/2/0
7. STB Irish 1/1/0
8. RBP 3/0/0
9. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
10. Edneck 2/1/0
11. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
12. Stonecutters 3/2/0
52gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 00:38
Ravens - 4 years
53Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 02:17
I'll match the two year bid on Vinatieri

54Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 02:32
Jimbo, shouldn't I have kept I. Bruce because I matched the highest bid? I understand I would have incurred a one-year tax, but from our e-mail discussion, that is how I took it. Please let me know.

55STB
      ID: 07491919
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 03:15
My contract status should be 2/0/0
56Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 03:29
Ravens 4 years as well.
57Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 03:30
Ravens 2 years
58Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 03:31
Damn it...1 minute two late:) Great minds think alike!
59Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 03:42
Chambers 2 years
60RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 04:05
Jimbo looks good. Shouldn't I be higher on the pecking order though? I was thinking I should be higher on the "pecking" order by now but I guess not.

We are really starting to see the weaker teams improve, which is the whole idea. I'm looking to make a trade or two to clear some cap space. Maybe Benson will NEVER sign and TJ will continue to be the starter :-)

61TrashHaulers
      ID: 47141612
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 04:22
Chambers 4 years
D. Bennett 2 years

D. Staley 2 years
62RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 04:30
I'll jump in on Drew Bennett myself for 2 years.
63Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 06:18
Reaper just picked up Branch and he's still #2 on the pecking order. Shak take a look @ STB who picked up Green and he's@ #7?
64RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 06:52
Ed I think there has to be more than one bid for them to move down. So when an owner is going to get a player that is ahead of you, you can bid the same amount and make him win by a tie breaker and move down. If the player is won uncontested then they don't move. That's what I gather at least.
65Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 07:13
That's stupid. I thought If a person picked up a RFA then they automatically moved to the bottom, The only way it's didn't affect your pecking order was when you resigned a player?

So when I pick up a guy off of say the Waiverwire during free agency I should stay at the Top Of the list also...same principal.

66RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 08:33
Not sure, let me look at the rules again.
67RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 08:35
e) If the original owner decides not to match, the raiding owner is awarded that player if his was the only winning bid. In event more than one owner puts in the same winning bid, the worst-tofirst priority system will be used. The lower seeded owner will win the player and be dropped to the bottom of the worst-tofirst priority list. Owners will not be dropped to the bottom if they had the only winning bid.
68Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 08:37
Scotty I made a trade offer to you on the LMSCL site...Let me know
69Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 08:51
I don't understand the logic on if I'm the only bidder and i'm awarded the players, plus I get to keep my place in the pecking order? But get two people to make bids on a player and win you lose your place in the pecking order. Somebody explain the reasoning behind that?
70gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 08:57
5 yrs on Balt
71gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 09:06
2 years on TJ Duckett
72Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:19
Edneck,
Those are the rules we have in place. We all reviewed the by laws, section by section. Your objection should have been voiced during the review. You will have a chance to change the rule next off season. For now, that is the system.
73Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:20
Mike, you are correct about Bruce. I will add him back to your roster.
74Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:34
You guys have been busy again. Can't a guy sleep in on a Saturday?

Ended 9am Saturday
1) Toefield/STB
Gamblers 2 years

2) Collins/Woodies
Stone 2 years
Stone 4 years

3) Eagles/Gamblers
Belly 2 years
Ednecks 2 years

4) Ravens/RBP
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years
Gamblers 4 years
Clyde 4 years
Gamblers 5 years

Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years
Trash 2 years
RBP 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years
Clyde 2 years (match)

Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) LJ Smith/Gamblers
Stone 2 years

Ending 9pm Sunday
1) Steelers/STB
Belly 2 years

2) Chambers/Stone
Reapers 2 years
Trash 4 years

3) Staley/Woodies
Trash 2 years

Ending 9am Monday
1) Duckett/
Gamblers 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyd 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
75Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:37
Ed, the reason the pecking order rule is the way it is, is to give even more help for the teams on the bottom. The key is for those teams to use this extra leverage. Before we went to a contract league, this league was a pure dynasty league and the best teams stayed great and the poor teams had a very hard time improving. We may have gone overboard in the other direction in trying to help the poor teams. Maybe this year will tell if you and Taco end up in the SuperBowl and RBP ends up with the number one pick next year.
76Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:42
Stonecutters goes back to the two spot, since Clyde matched the bid on I. Bruce.

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Stonecutters 3/2/0
3. Grim Reaper 2/1/0
4. Gumsellers 3/2/0
5. Trashhaulers 2/2/0
6. Super Clyde 3/2/0
7. Gridiron Gamblers 3/2/0
8. STB Irish 2/0/0
9. RBP 3/0/0
10. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
11. Edneck 2/1/0
12. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
77Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 11:41
4 years on Steelers D

Thanks Jim.
78Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:03
UUUUHHHHHHBullshitZZZZzz, sorry I got a cold!!!


79Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:09
LJ Smith 2 Year bid
Toefield 2 year bid
Steelers 2 year bid

80Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:13
Bills 2 year bid
81Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:16
Sorry Ed, your bid on Toefield was 3 hours too late. None of the 6am bids were matched by their original owners.
82Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:24
Droughns 2 years
83Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 12:51
Yup. I can see that now. Sorry it must be that cold blurring my vision.
84Shak
      ID: 1911172611
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 13:36
Ending 9pm Saturday
1) D Bennett/Edneck
Stone 2 years
Trash 2 years
RBP 2 years

2) Vinatieri/Clyde
Belly 2 years
Clyde 2 years (match)

Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) LJ Smith/Gamblers
Stone 2 years
Edneck 2 years

Ending 9pm Sunday
1) Steelers/STB
Belly 2 years
Edneck 2 years

2) Chambers/Stone
Reapers 2 years
Trash 4 years

3) Staley/Woodies
Trash 2 years

Ending 9am Monday
1) Duckett/Reaper
Gamblers 2 years

2) Droughns/Reaper
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyd 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
85Shak
      ID: 1911172611
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 13:39
Ednecks moves to the back of the bus based on Eagles pickup.

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Stonecutters 3/1/0
3. Grim Reaper 2/1/0
4. Gumsellers 3/2/0
5. Trashhaulers 2/2/0
6. Super Clyde 3/2/0
7. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
8. STB Irish 2/0/0
9. RBP 3/0/0
10. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
11. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
12. Edneck 2/1/0
86Superclydes
      ID: 63402814
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 15:31
4 years on Pittsburg D
87TrashHaulers
      ID: 267131722
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 15:46
2 years on E. Kennison
88RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 18:21
Staley 2 years
89Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 21:06
9pm Sat

S Moss 2 years
90Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 00:14
Ending 9am Sunday
1)Bills/Gamblers
Reaper 2 years
Edneck 2 years
Belly 2 years

2)J Smith/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) LJ Smith/Gamblers
Stone 2 years
Edneck 2 years

Ending 9pm Sunday
1) Steelers/STB
Belly 2 years
Edneck 2 years
Clyde 4 years
Belly 4 years

2) Chambers/Stone
Reapers 2 years
Trash 4 years

3) Staley/Woodies
Trash 2 years
RBP 2 years

Ending 9am Monday
1) Duckett/Reaper
Gamblers 2 years

2) Droughns/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) Kennison/STB
Trash 2 years

Ending 9pm Monday
1) S Moss/Taco
Stone 2 years

2) Panthers/Trash
Belly 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
91RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 00:51
Duckett 2 years
Panthers 2 years
92STB
      ID: 07491919
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 01:58
panthers 2 years
93Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 08:55
J Smith 2 years
94Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 09:52
Ending 9PM Monday

3) Carr, QB 2 year bid
95Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:51
J Bettis
2 years
96Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 12:13
Ending 9pm Sunday
1) Steelers/STB
Belly 2 years
Edneck 2 years
Clyde 4 years
Belly 4 years

2) Chambers/Stone
Reapers 2 years
Trash 4 years

3) Staley/Woodies
Trash 2 years
RBP 2 years

Ending 9am Monday
1) Duckett/Reaper
Gamblers 2 years
RBP 2 years

2) Droughns/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) Kennison/STB
Trash 2 years

Ending 9pm Monday
1) S Moss/Taco
Stone 2 years

2) Panthers/Trash
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years
STB 2 years

Ending 9am Tuesday
1) Carr/Stone
Edneck 2 years

2) Bettis/Trash
Stone 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
Bills (Reaper 2)
J Smith (Belly 2)
LJ Smith (Edneck 2)
97Softunderbelly
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 12:22
Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. Trashhaulers 2/2/0
4. Super Clyde 3/2/0
5. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
6. STB Irish 2/0/0
7. RBP 3/0/0
8. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
9. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
10. Stonecutters 3/1/0 (bennett, 9pm Sat)
11. Grim Reaper 2/1/0 (bills, 9am Sun)
12. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
98Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:14
For next years rules. I believe there is a serious flaw in someone posting an bid on a player that doesn't have a chance in winning the bid. The bid is placed just to ensure that person goes to the end of the draft. In my case, I placed the first bid on the bills and Edneck and Belly were lower on the pecking order. However, with their senseless bid, it placed me to the end of the pecking order. Lessoned learned...something to discuss next year.
99Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:17
Drougns 2 years (no +1 one though)
Carr 2 years
100Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:28
I can't speak for Edneck, but I can assure you my bid was not made just to bump you down the pecking order. I have 17 players signed and don't have a defense. I have bid on every D that has been nominated. I placed my bid in the hope that you would move down the pecking order prior to the end of that bidding period.

The by-laws do state that "during the final 12 hours of bidding for each RFA, owners of lower ranking on the priority list may not place a matching bid for an RFA, if he has no chance of winning that bid." There is still at least one bidding period open prior the final 12 hours, where the pecking order could change.

The rule may be flawed and we can look at it next year. I suggest Reaper and Edneck try to come up with their proposals and we can vote on it next year.
101Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:38
I actually like Ednecks rules of once you get a RFA you go to the ottom of the barrel. I think this would be the fairest way to process pickups and still allow the lower ranked teams the opportunity of haviing first bid.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm just pointing out that those owners (RFA's)that are not bidded against get a freebee, while those that are bidded against (worthless bid or not) go to the bottom of the barrel.
102Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:39
Please diregard all spelling errors...I have ten thumbs when typing on this laptop.
103Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 18:34
Moss, Bettis 2 years please
104Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 18:48
I'll admit I bid on a few players just to show how easy it is to work the system, not nice, but I was a little frustrated with picking up a player and going to the bottom of the list and other people staying at the top soley because no one made a bid against them. I always seem to be the bad guy in every league, soley because I speak my mind when something just doesn't seem right, I'm sure I'm not the only player that felt that the rule was a little strange...I can hear half of you guys going here he goes again complaining about something. I'm paying a 100 dollars to play in this league...that's Momma's slot-playing money...
105RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 19:09
I have been bidding of late to make sure the winners move down. I had to do something to get out of 12th on the pecking order because I was losing every bid, just like it should be.

I have a powerhouse team and have lost my share of stud players, this system works. In the last few years I've lost E. James and the Ravens D, two starters that if you added to what I already have you'd see that I'd never lose. So while we may have some flaws the stronger teams have been weakend, making it easer for the bottom feeders to hang around with better chances of getting better sooner. My 2 cents. I'm getting killed in FA but I love it.
106Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 20:15
Ed, I think the point that you and Reaper are making holds some water, but it is very minor IMO. Is it really important if you move to the bottom every time you pick up a RFA or just when you pick up a highly sought after RFA? If we change the rule, all your doing is helping the better teams that can't easily move up to nab a valuable RFA. If we had the rule this year, Scott and Tim would have nominated lesser RFAs in the beginning hoping to move up the pecking order to snag some of the better RFAs. Meaning, the better owners will always work the system to their advantage. I think the current system has allowed you, Reaper, and me to improve our team much more than Scott, which was the intent.

What is more disturbing is that it seems like less than half the teams are taking advantage of the RFAs to really improve their teams, while the other half is getting raped. I'm like a kid in a candy store and wish I could keep spending. I see some teams that have 10 players on contract and 25 years to spend. My question is when do they expect to spend it? In the draft, on some unknown rookies? I guess as a commish, I want to see a competitive league top to bottom and I'm seeing the haves and have nots. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
107Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 20:52
Hear hear...I agree.
108Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:01
I guess that makes sense, I like a competitive league also. Like I said I'm a rookie and this contract bidding is a little strange. Wasn't sure how to get an advantage. I did say show me the reasoning behind it and I guess RBP dominating everyone is painful enough to make some changes!!!
109Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:06
LOL, well put.
110Stonecutters
      ID: 357191611
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:16
J Wiggins

2 years
111RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:45
I hate losing the Ravens D, hate it hate it hate it. I should have locked them up for 5.........
112Superclydes
      ID: 36371321
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:41
Looks like I stole Steelers D from STB. I needed that. If they score like last year, I am in there like swimwear!!
113Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:58
Ending 9am Monday
1) Duckett/Reaper
Gamblers 2 years
RBP 2 years

2) Droughns/Reaper
Belly 2 years

3) Kennison/STB
Trash 2 years

Ending 9pm Monday
1) S Moss/Taco
Stone 2 years
Reaper 2 years

2) Panthers/Trash
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years
STB 2 years

Ending 9am Tuesday
1) Carr/Stone
Edneck 2 years
Reaper 2 years

2) Bettis/Trash
Stone 2 years
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9pm Tuesday
1) Wiggins/Belly
Stone 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
Bills (Reaper 2)
J Smith (Belly 2)
LJ Smith (Edneck 2)
Steelers (Clyde 4)
Chambers (Trash 4)
Staley (Trash 2)

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
4. STB Irish 2/0/0
5. RBP 3/0/0
6. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
7. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
8. Stonecutters 3/1/0 (bennett, 9pm Sat)
9. Grim Reaper 2/1/0 (bills, 9am Sun)
10. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
11. Super Clyde 3/1/0 (Steelers, 9pm Sun)
12. Trashhaulers 2/1/0 (Staley, 9pm Sun)
114Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 00:12
Team Players under contract/contract years
RBP 9/28
Taco Chip 11/23
Stonecutters 12/30
Grim Reaper 12/35
STB Irish 12/37
Gumsellers 13/28
Sporting Woodies 13/30
Super Clyde 13/31
Trashhaulers 14/35
Edneck 14/37
Gridiron Gamblers 16/34
Softunderbelly 17/37
115RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 03:04
Harrington 2 years
116RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 03:09
Jason Elam 2 years
117Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 09:59
Scott, you can only nominate one player per period. Please re-nominate Elam after 0900 ET.
118RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:01
ok.
119Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:37
Grim, what did you mean by "Drougns 2 years (no +1 one though)"? Whenever you re-sign one of your own RFAs, you have to pay the one year tax.
120Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:15
We are getting near the end of the RFA process. Unless there's any objections, let's make 9pm tonight the last period to nominate RFAs. Feel free to nominate as many as you want for the rest of the day. Again, if there are no objections, we will start our draft on Friday night.

Ending 9pm Monday
1) S Moss/Taco
Stone 2 years
Reaper 2 years

2) Panthers/Trash
Belly 2 years
RBP 2 years
STB 2 years

Ending 9am Tuesday
1) Carr/Stone
Edneck 2 years
Reaper 2 years

2) Bettis/Trash
Stone 2 years
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9pm Tuesday
1) Wiggins/Belly
Stone 2 years

2) Harrington/Taco
RBP 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
Bills (Reaper 2)
J Smith (Belly 2)
LJ Smith (Edneck 2)
Steelers (Clyde 4)
Chambers (Trash 4)
Staley (Trash 2)
Duckett (RBP 2)
Kennison (Trash 2)
Droughns?????

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
4. STB Irish 2/0/0
5. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
6. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
7. Stonecutters 3/1/0 (bennett, 9pm Sat)
8. Grim Reaper 2/1/0 (bills, 9am Sun)
9. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
10. Super Clyde 3/1/0 (Steelers, 9pm Sun)
11. Trashhaulers 2/1/0 (Staley, 9pm Sun)
12. RBP 3/0/0 (Duckett, 9am Mon)
121Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:17
Scott, Elam is yours. You can resign your own RFAs to the length of your choice (at least 2+1) after the RFA process.
122Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:46
CORRECTION: Duckett goes to GG and GG goes to the bottom of the barrell. Sorry Scott.
123RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:58
Ok, hold on Elam then.
124Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:21
Sorry Jim...my bad, give me the tax for the bid.
125Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:59
Jim, since you have Suggs, I may as well be honest. I was pissed at the time because "I" didn't fully understand all the senarios with the pecking order (refer to previous post). So I made a useless bid for Droughns (as not to give in for the tax)...just match you bid so you would go to the end of the pecking order. I have seen the errors of my ways and will give up any bid for Droughns to keep the integrity of the league. Bottom line...it would not be right for me to claim Drouhns by being sneaky and screw you over.
126Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:08
Last chance to nominate an RFA. No more RFAs after 9am ET.

Ending 9am Tuesday
1) Carr/Stone
Edneck 2 years
Reaper 2 years

2) Bettis/Trash
Stone 2 years
Reaper 2 years

Ending 9pm Tuesday
1) Wiggins/Belly
Stone 2 years

2) Harrington/Taco
RBP 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
Bills (Reaper 2)
J Smith (Belly 2)
LJ Smith (Edneck 2)
Steelers (Clyde 4)
Chambers (Trash 4)
Staley (Trash 2)
Duckett (RBP 2)
Kennison (Trash 2)
Droughns(Belly 2)
Moss (Stone 2)
Panthers (STB 2)

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. RBP 3/0/0 (Duckett, 9am Mon)
4. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
5. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
6. Stonecutters 3/1/0 (bennett, 9pm Sat)
7. Grim Reaper 2/1/0 (bills, 9am Sun)
8. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
9. Super Clyde 3/1/0 (Steelers, 9pm Sun)
10. Trashhaulers 2/1/0 (Staley, 9pm Sun)
11. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
12. STB Irish 2/0/0
127RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:08
Do I have Duck or not? Some posts say I do, some say I don't? So which is it?
128Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:36
Sorry, he went to GG. I just didn't clean up the last post completely.
129RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 03:32
OK, cool.
130Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:04
You have until 9pm Wednesday to resign one of your own RFAs to a 2+1 or longer contract.

Ending 9pm Tuesday
1) Wiggins/Belly
Stone 2 years

2) Harrington/Taco
RBP 2 years

RFAs resigned by owner
Whitten (Reaper, 5+1)
Wayne (STB, 5+1)
Foster (Belly, 5+1)
Burleson (Edneck, 5+1)
D Clark (STB, 4+1)
Bruce (Clyde 2+1)
Vinatieri (Clyde 2+1)

RFAs awarded
M Robinson (Taco, 2)
Muhammad (Belly, 2)
A Bryant (Gamblers, 2)
C Brown (Woodies, 5)
E Johnson (Belly, 2)
Dunn (Edneck, 4)
Brady (Trash, 5)
T Green (STB 4)
Branch (Reaper 2)
Toefield (Gamblers 2)
Collins (Stone 4)
Eagles (Edneck 2)
Ravens (Gamblers 5)
D Bennett (Stone 2)
Bills (Reaper 2)
J Smith (Belly 2)
LJ Smith (Edneck 2)
Steelers (Clyde 4)
Chambers (Trash 4)
Staley (Trash 2)
Duckett (RBP 2)
Kennison (Trash 2)
Droughns(GG 2
Moss (Stone 2)
Panthers (STB 2)
Carr (Reaper 2)
Bettis (Stone 2)

Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. RBP 3/0/0
4. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
5. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
6. Stonecutters 3/1/0 (bennett, 9pm Sat)
7. Grim Reaper 2/1/0 (bills, 9am Sun)
8. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
9. Super Clyde 3/1/0 (Steelers, 9pm Sun)
10. Trashhaulers 2/1/0 (Staley, 9pm Sun)
11. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
12. STB Irish 2/0/0
131Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:06
Updated Pecking Order
1. Taco Chip 3/2/0
2. Gumsellers 3/2/0
3. RBP 3/0/0
4. Sporting Woodies 2/0/2
5. Softunderbelly 2/2/0
6. Edneck 2/1/0 (LJ, 9am Sun)
7. Super Clyde 3/1/0
8. Trashhaulers 2/1/0
9. Gridiron Gamblers 2/2/0
10. STB Irish 2/0/0
11. Grim Reaper 2/1/0
12. Stonecutters 3/1/0
132Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:12
If you know you won't be keeping any of your unsigned RFAs, let me know so I can clean up your roster.
133Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:25
Jim,

I will be signing the Falcons, Stover, and Hanson all to one year deals.
134Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:42
If you want to resign your own RFAs, you must sign them to a minimum 2+1 contract. If you release them and draft them, you may then sign them to a 1 year non-guaranteed contract.
135TrashHaulers
      ID: 267131722
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:43
Reaper,

You have to resign your own RFAs to a 2+1 or longer contract. It's in section 9.04h of the rules.

Shak, I'm not resigning any of my RFA's, and my roster has been cleaned up.
136Stonecutters
      ID: 38739317
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:47
Shak,
I will not be resigning any rfas, please get rid of them. Thanks
137Edneck
      ID: 115222815
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 14:25
I will not be resigning anyone either. Cheers
138Sporting Woodies
      ID: 52726167
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:25
I will not be re-signing any more RFAs.
139Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:26
OK, well then release them...release them all...bhaa haa haa haa ha!
140Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:46
Kris, next year I'll send you the video version of the by-laws.
141Grim Reaper
      ID: 75552821
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:12
Thanks...you know I totally a visual person.
142Stonecutters
      ID: 38739317
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:17
Can we end this thing and start the draft already??? I'm dying over here.
143gridiron gamblers
      ID: 224462617
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:41
You can release my rfa's...

But what happens if I decide to draft one? Am I still tagged with the +1? and the 2 yr minimum?
144Shak
      ID: 481029813
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:49
No tax for any player drafted, RFA or not.
145Shak
      ID: 165532722
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 00:17
RFA process is done.
146RBP
      ID: 2962315
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 01:06
Re-sign Elam, 2 year contract. Drop the rest.
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