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Subject: RIFC AAA #2 Draft Discussion #2
Posted by: holt
- [16735225] Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 23:52
old one getting too long.
Holt, I am inserting this in the top of the discussion so in case anyone wants to use for reference- TB
We are using the same set-up and rules as the RIFC. I quick search of their pre-draft discussion thread nets us this post from GURU:
Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
8 bench
21 Total
Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.
Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2
Kicking Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0
Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 points allowed 7
7-13 points allowed 4
14-20 points allowed 1
21-27 points allowed 0
28-34 points allowed -1
35+ points allowed -4
Indiv Defensive Players Points
(the following points apply only to DL, LB, and DB)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 3 (half sack=1.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage. After that, priorities will not be reset. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed (either via "free agent priority claim" or a waiver claim), the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list.
Starting at 1:00pm on Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status.
When a player is dropped from a roster, the player will go on waivers for 48 hours. At the end of the 48 hour period, if any team has placed a claim on the player, the team with the highest claiming priority will receive the player. If no claims are submitted, the player becomes a free agent at that time. If a player is dropped within 48 hours of his game freeze, he may not be claimed until the following week's free agent claiming process.
Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.
Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16
Trade deadline
The trade deadline is 11:30pm EST on November 11.
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)
Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) are frozen for the playoffs. Team defenses are also frozen, since they are not subject to injury uncertainty. Other positions are eligible for injury-replacement add/drop/claim transactions only.
Specifically, players in the other slots (TE, PK, IDP) may only be replaced if they are designated as questionable or worse on the NFL injury report. This allowance does not apply to any player who was designated questionable or worse for the week 13 game (the final regular season game).
Thus, you cannot add or drop a QB, RB, WR, or team Def after the week #13 freeze, period. You can only drop someone else if that player was designated as "Probable" or better for week 13, and "Questionable" or lower at some point thereafter. If one of those players is dropped, he can only be replaced by a player fulfilling the same position. (LB and DB will be considered the same position for this purpose.)
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| 2 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 00:26
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I just left a voice mail for THK.
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| 3 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 00:49
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Holt has my queue for round 9.
I'll be around most of tomorrow except between 11AM and 1PM for queue duty. I will check in before I leave at 11AM.
We're getting a nice flow during the day with this end of the draft.
Very enjoyable.
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| 4 | culdeus
ID: 31630622
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 07:53
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I love it when people take Team D's. You might as well just say "pass".
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| 5 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 09:02
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I remember going into the last week, fighting for the last play-off spot. I was thinking that if only I had a better defense throughout the year I would have won a few more games and earned my spot. I lost several games by 1-5 points where my def scored 10 points less than my opponent.
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| 6 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 09:43
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I'm gonna post my rationales before noon...
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| 7 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 10:21
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I'm leaving in a few minutes, I'll be back by 1 PM.
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| 8 | holt
ID: 16735225
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 12:14
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left a queue with fugazi, mjd, and culdeus.
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| 9 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 12:28
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Left queue for 9.13 with Pete and 10.02 with BMD
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| 10 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 12:57
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I'm here, but I seem to be having trouble with my email. Hopefully it's temporary.
Oh, there it goes. Queue recieved from Holt.
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| 11 | Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 13:02
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anyone seen BMD?
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| 15 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 17:18
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Thinking
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| 18 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 21:23
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Will be picking soon...
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| 20 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 22:38
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Plz take few second to post placeholders if you are not to post any rationales... that would be considerate...
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| 22 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 00:24
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After reading your rationale on Urlacher, Hubble, I can say almost the same thing on my last pick of Brooks. I was at work, peeked in and saw I was up, and didn't want to hold the draft up. Couldn't remember who I had ranked where, but figured Brooks always seems to do better than the projections. I forgot about Clements who I had very high on my list. Almost took another defense. I think I need to sleep a bit before I draft another player today.
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| 23 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 01:06
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I carry draft sheets everywhere I go, constantly taking notes and changing rankings. Totally consumed.
My 10th round queue is sent to the Commish.
I'll be back on by noon.
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| 24 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 01:59
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got the queue.
if thk picks we'll be up to tree pretty quick.
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| 25 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 02:24
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weird - i thought culdeus already picked. oh well - it's late.
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| 26 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 02:29
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I just left a voice mail for THK.
See you at noon.
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| 27 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 09:20
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I'm going to play golf... i sent a small Q to Culdeus and Toral...
I'll be back at 8pm... plz wait for me if possible... but if it comes to be my turn before 6pm pick for me...
cheers all
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| 30 | THK new home
ID: 27752210
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:21
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My post disappear, as well as Holts...why?
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| 31 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:21
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cool - thk picked.
i have a queue for mjd, but he said he'd be back by at noon. should i go ahead use the queue to keep this moving - or wait?
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| 32 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:22
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I deleted mine - you picked right as i was posting it, so it wasn't relevant.
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| 33 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:26
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I'll just let mjd pick on his own. he'll be here soon, and he has my queue so he can post mine along with his.
later.
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| 35 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:00
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Overslept, but I really needed it. I found Holt's queue, but I don't have one for Tree.
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| 36 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:17
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I'll fill in a few placeholders. We are waaay behind.
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| 38 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:10
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MJD, While inserting place holders you might want to double check to see if any are in this thread. I see a bunch that can be posted.
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| 39 | Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:13
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FYI - what are the plans for this weekend?
i'm away from my computer from about 7:30 tomorrow morning through about 7:30 pm on saturday night...
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| 40 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:19
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There are, wiggs, but I'm not a moderator. I don't think that whoever moves the rationales should have to insert placeholders too. Just trying to help that person out.
All right, I've done almost 2 rounds. Let's go you slugs. You know who you are.
If I didn't want to do rationales, I'd have joined AA.
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| 41 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:28
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MJD, Sorry, maybe i didnt say what i meant, or atleast didnt say it clearly. I just mean instead of writing place holder, you could just cut and paste it. Do you know what I mean?
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| 42 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:31
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Yeah, I just figured that out.
Give me another decade and I'll have this internet thingy mastered. Haha
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| 43 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:41
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I feel ya, MJD. It isn't that difficult to insert stuff using the mod tools, but it is time consuming doing that and making placeholders for 10 other managers.
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| 44 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:55
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Per post #39: I'll be around all weekend except for a few hours Sat evening.
We've made pretty good progress this week. We might be able to keep the clock off, or at least extend it to 8 or 10 hours just to keep things moving.
What's everyone else think?
I'll call some people, if that helps.
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| 45 | Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:19
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it's the weekend...i say turn it off...
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| 46 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:34
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I'm way behind in my rationales but I'll catch up tomorrow when my drafts are on slow pace.
8 or 10 hours sounds good. If we complete 1 full round you could then turn it off for the rest of the weekend.
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| 47 | Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:51
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well someone's going to have to call me, or email me if i'm up, and i'll try and check my treo.
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| 48 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 18:28
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i can call you, tree, but let's see what the commish wants to do
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| 49 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:33
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we're moving like molasses now. not even getting around the turn quickly.
only 10 picks made today.
I'm going to set the draft for a 6 hour clock this weekend.
if you're worried about being skipped then make a queue.
we won't freak out if someone times out, but we WILL skip them and keep moving.
we need to make some progress this weekend.
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| 50 | holt
ID: 16735225
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:57
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The clock WILL be running this weekend.
please put a queue together if you will be gone. or make some kind of arrangement to get your pick made.
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| 51 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 22:12
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I should be home all weekend if anyone needs to leave a queue.
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| 52 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 22:50
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I'll be around for a queue or shoot me a phone number. I'm only planning to go out for a couple of hours, tomorrow evening.
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| 53 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 23:25
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Sorry ya'll had to wait on me. I left a queue with BMD but I quess he's not available.
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| 54 | Tree
ID: 23722618
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 23:32
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yep. i'm going to go on record that a weekend clock is lame, and it's BS.
when we were freaking out earlier, we were told not to worry, that we were making good time.
we're 12 rounds in, well past halfway, and should be done by mid next-week. i've actually never been in a slow draft that DIDN'T pause for the weekend.
hate to sound b!tchy, but sorry, i think it's crapola to EXPECT people to draft on a weekend...
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| 55 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 23:46
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I agree with Tree, i think we need to pause the weekend. I hate to do it, but we have made good progress.
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| 56 | culdeus@HH100
ID: 516121713
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 23:46
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Weekend clock SuX0r hard. This thing is going to get done in plenty of time.
BTW, god bless unsecured wireless innernet access.
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| 57 | holt
ID: 587571722
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 00:21
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all I see is those who are opposed to a weekend clock. how many are for it?
opening day is 16 days away.
the aim is to finish at least 1 week before the season starts. It's important that we hit that deadline.
we have 10 rounds left to draft and 9 days to meet the target end-date. only 5 of those days are weekdays.
as far as I know the RIFC still runs their clock on the weekend. but, if you guys are all opposed to it, we can go without a clock this weekend. just be prepared to go with one next weekend if the draft isn't finished (at the rate of 1 round a day it won't be).
if you will be unavailable this weekend - put together a queue so that we can keep this moving.
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| 58 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 00:57
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Why do we have to finish a week before the season starts? Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a live fast draft and get this over with, but a couple days before the season starts seems okay.
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| 59 | holt
ID: 587571722
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 01:39
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to allow time for the final waiver/FA period, trades, and to get the players entered and lineups set. and I'd rather shoot for the 4th because it allows us some room for error. I don't want the draft to end just 2 or 3 days before the first games.
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| 60 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 02:03
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Friday was pretty sad as far as how many picks that were made. We've had a couple of days of good flow, but it has lagged badly at times.
If we stop the clock this weekend we must be prepared to have a clock next weekend and/or shorten the clock if necessary.
That said, I prefer to run some sort of a clock to keep things moving. Even if it is 8 or 10 hours.
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| 61 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 03:30
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let's move to a 4 hour clock next week then. this isn't cutting it. there were 4 guys that didn't even get to make a pick today.
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| 62 | Tree
ID: 52731275
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 06:34
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i see no problem having a shorter clock during the week.
i'm commishing another league that is further behind than this league. much further. i'm still putting the draft on hold.
next week, i've already let them know we're probably going to a 2 to 3 hour clock.
i also believe it's important to be done by next friday. with a shorter clock, there is no reason why we can't do this easily...
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| 63 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 09:01
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I'm for a shorter clock during the week and no clock on weekend.
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| 65 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:51
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I did call THK. He said that he'll pick in a bit.
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| 66 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 23:14
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i know there is no clock on the weekends but if you know you'll be away all day or night please leave a queue with a couple of names on it.
4 guys in our league haven't gotten to make a pick since thursday. show some courtesy.
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| 67 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 23:32
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I have a queue for Eh too, but i am going to bed now, so I will pick for him in the morning.
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| 68 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 23:34
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its only been culdeus' pick for about 4 hours, that isnt to bad for a saturday night.
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| 69 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 00:22
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If there is no clock, this is what we get.
I talked to THK two minutes after I picked and he still took almost 4 hours.
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| 71 | culdeus
ID: 31630622
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 09:03
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I;ll pick in <20 mins.
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| 72 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 09:34
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plz don't use my queue...
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| 73 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:28
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i'll be picking shortly
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| 74 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:49
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back to hubble
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| 75 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:59
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That was a quick turn on the corner. Hope we can keep this going today.
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| 76 | culdeus
ID: 516121713
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 14:02
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Sorry about the delay last night I was pretty beat when I got in. Who is a mod and I'll just send all rationales up to date for me to be inserted whenever they are needed.
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| 77 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 14:07
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Just post them in here and I will move them over. I think the draft is moving along nicely, although we are at THK so will have to see how long this lasts.
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| 78 | culdeus
ID: 31630622
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 16:58
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London Fletcher
Again I nabbed two top 10 IDP talent well into the IDP rampage. I did have to be a little careful at this point because most of the backup QBRBWR were totally spare here meaning nearly all the next picks would be off-skills.
LJ Smith
Great upside TE here with the upheaval in PHI and their WR situation. A potential 1000yd threat and should get loads of redzone looks as the only pass catching TE of consequence on the roster now.
Thomas Davis
Another top 20 IDP talent left hanging out there that I couldn't let go another round. Starting to become a three man race between Wiggs, TB, and Myself.
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| 79 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 17:06
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i'm here - i'll pick soon.
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| 82 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 18:19
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culdeus:
'Starting to become a three man race between Wiggs, TB, and Myself.'
just wanted to make sure that everyone got to read that part before it gets moved to the rationale thread.
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| 83 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 18:28
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I read it.
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| 84 | culdeus
ID: 516121713
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:04
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I would say this league has shaped up into 4 tiers
Championship Quality
Wiggs
Hubble
Culdeus
TB
Competitive
PeterN
MikeV
BMD
CEHP
Outside looking in
THK
Holt
Fugazi
MJD
Too early to tell (IDPs pending)
Toral
Tree
Expect my always controverisal post draft grades coming 48hrs after the draft.
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| 86 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:28
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That is nice of Culdeus to say, but we were both feeling pretty good about our teams last year about this same time too. I like almost every team so far. Yes, we all have a strange pick or two, but this league seems more competitive than last years RIFC just based on how the draft has fallen-out. I do like Wiggs and Culdeus's teams, but I happen to like Hubble's team quite a bit as well as Tree's, Toral's and BMD's. I just looked at every team again and there is only one team that I think is far behind the others.
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| 87 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:48
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well, no matter how many times these pre-season predictions turn out to be completely wrong, you will still see the predictions in every draft.
there is so much more to winning a league than just the draft. player projections miss as much as they hit.
you can accurately grade a draft after the season is over, but right now any draft grade is just opinion and for entertainment purposes only.
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| 88 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:59
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So are rationales. It is nice to see some people particpating in every aspect of the league.
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| 89 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:00
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I meant to add that if we had to start 6 WR I would like your team a lot too, Holt.
=)
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| 90 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:01
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I myself would never assess a team's draft until I saw their backup(s) at certain positions.
Toral
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| 91 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:05
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lol. I always draft throw-aways.
usually half my draft is gone by season end because so many good FA's become available.
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| 92 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:06
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I agree with you Toral and with Holt. It is nice to rate a draft and hear other's opinions, but last year my #1 pick Deuce was hurt, my 3rd pick Steve Smith was lost for the season before the first game was completed, and I can go on and on. Injuries are so huge in fantasy football. The season is too short for a team to be able to survive if their top picks get hurt and you don't have a solid back-up.
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| 94 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:36
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I just went back to read this years RIBC draft recap.
good example of the futility of draft grading.
read the responses to question #3
'Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?'
as you're reading, compare the responses to the
current standings.
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| 96 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:41
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I was thinking of looking that up ;)
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| 97 | holt
ID: 16735225
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:41
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btw -
Odalis Perez Express is Chris
Oaktown Jermainiacs is A's guy
the Big If is species
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| 99 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 01:56
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I read it also, holt, and thanks for pointing it out.(post 82)
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| 100 | holt
ID: 16735225
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 05:25
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lol.
NOTICE:
I'm switching the clock to 4 hours this morning.
hoping this will help us get through the rest of the draft this week.
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| 101 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 10:00
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Q sent to 2 guys... i think Culdeus and Toral... i'll be away all day, don't know when i'll be back... Plz use my Q for both pick... if my Q is depleted just keep going don't wait for me... or if anyone feels like it, here is my cell phone:
514-863-0622
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| 102 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 11:06
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I have the Q from Hubble.
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| 103 | holt
ID: 16735225
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:01
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nice progress today guys. very smooth.
I need to catch up on my rationales something fierce. it would be nice to see everyone take a stab at them.
you don't have to recite a bunch of stats if that's too dry for you. just whatever pops in your head.
the rationales in invitational leagues take the place of draft discussion in a way. it's to encourage everyone to talk about their picks, and having their own thread means you have the podium and no arguments will break out. you can make outlandish predictions and heap praise on your own picks and there's nothing anyone can do about it. or, I guess it can also be a chance to tell everyone how stupid you think you are.
either way, they are fun to read when waiting between picks, and funny as hell to read when the season is over.
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| 106 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 15:59
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I'M here don't use my Q, plz
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| 107 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 16:00
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12.08 Samie Parker, WR, KC
I needed to pick up a 4th WR here and I felt like Samie was as good a choice here as any. He is listed as the #2 WR on the KC depth chart and should get more chances than any other WR left on the board. He's got the speed and quickness to be a home run threat, but size is a goncern.
Probably considered a sleeper by some, as he is at best, a 3rd option in the KC passing game.
The better Parker pick would have been Willie, but I already have a 4th week bye RB and did not want to have any bye week issues. I also liked the 2 WRs taken before Samie and looked closely at 2 out of the 3 picked after him.
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| 108 | FUGAZI
ID: 5732912
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 16:25
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ben roethlisberger,qb,pitt
at this stage he's the only qb left. im not very excited about the fact that he has yet to score a td in preseason. but he should fit right in with the rest of my team "on the outside looking in".
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| 109 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 18:02
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This is word from Culdeus...
I had hubble's q and I'm not sure why it iddn't work
That Marcel Shipp wasn't in the database so I had to "run the stopsign"
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| 110 | Tree
ID: 427532917
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:00
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questions:
1. i've lost track - where are we playing? aol? yahoo? rotoworld?
2. also, what positions are we trying to fill? i've lost that list too...lol
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| 111 | culdeus
ID: 31630622
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:09
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Tip: don't send q's to someone who can't see the site and then ask to hold the q on the site.
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| 112 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:27
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hehe, don't worry about it, thanks for picking...
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| 113 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:44
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1. i've lost track - where are we playing? aol? yahoo? rotoworld?
AOL and you should have already registered your team. Some teams have registered, but have not changed their team name from "Team 1", etc.
2. also, what positions are we trying to fill? i've lost that list too...lol
We are using the same set-up and rules as the RIFC. I quick search of their pre-draft discussion thread nets us this post from GURU:
Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
8 bench
21 Total
Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.
Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2
Kicking Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0
Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 points allowed 7
7-13 points allowed 4
14-20 points allowed 1
21-27 points allowed 0
28-34 points allowed -1
35+ points allowed -4
Indiv Defensive Players Points
(the following points apply only to DL, LB, and DB)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 3 (half sack=1.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage. After that, priorities will not be reset. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed (either via "free agent priority claim" or a waiver claim), the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list.
Starting at 1:00pm on Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status.
When a player is dropped from a roster, the player will go on waivers for 48 hours. At the end of the 48 hour period, if any team has placed a claim on the player, the team with the highest claiming priority will receive the player. If no claims are submitted, the player becomes a free agent at that time. If a player is dropped within 48 hours of his game freeze, he may not be claimed until the following week's free agent claiming process.
Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.
Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16
Trade deadline
The trade deadline is 11:30pm EST on November 11.
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)
Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) are frozen for the playoffs. Team defenses are also frozen, since they are not subject to injury uncertainty. Other positions are eligible for injury-replacement add/drop/claim transactions only.
Specifically, players in the other slots (TE, PK, IDP) may only be replaced if they are designated as questionable or worse on the NFL injury report. This allowance does not apply to any player who was designated questionable or worse for the week 13 game (the final regular season game).
Thus, you cannot add or drop a QB, RB, WR, or team Def after the week #13 freeze, period. You can only drop someone else if that player was designated as "Probable" or better for week 13, and "Questionable" or lower at some point thereafter. If one of those players is dropped, he can only be replaced by a player fulfilling the same position. (LB and DB will be considered the same position for this purpose.)
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| 114 | Tree
ID: 427532917
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:47
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thanks TB. i never realized how being gone for just one weekend during draft season completely screws up your pattern of thinking in these things...
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| 115 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:52
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LOL. I am in so many leagues this year I have to keep checking my notes on starting line-ups as well.
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| 116 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 20:23
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I sent a queue to TB.
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| 117 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 20:29
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And a separate queue for round 16 also to TB.
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| 118 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:31
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13.07 Terence Newman, DB, DAL
Pretty good DB, but several depth charts show him returning punts. Will he? I don't know for certain, but all the other known DB/PR have been long gone.
I had absolutely no other reason to pick him.
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| 119 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:08
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Toral, I made my pick, checked on my other drafts, and then read my email. I saw your queue, but when I went to make your pick it was already done.
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| 120 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:11
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I happened to be around. I changed my mind, as you may have noticed!
You also have my queue for round 16, though I'll likely be around to pick it tomorrow morning unless things start moving real fast in the next couple hours.
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| 121 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 01:22
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I'll be back by 10 AM EDT.
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| 122 | culdeus
ID: 31630622
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:05
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I thought you didn't get pr/kr yards for IDPs?!?
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| 123 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:15
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I don't know why you would think that.
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
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| 124 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:40
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sent out league invites to the following:
mjd
fugazi
cEHp
wiggs
everyone, feel free to start adding your players to your roster.
league site
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| 125 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:46
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When I try to add players I get this message:
Your league rules do not allow for owners to make preseason player adds/drops.
Please contact your commissioner for this type of transaction.
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| 126 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:48
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Same here.
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| 127 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 08:51
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I think it has to be done this way:
Offline Draft
Does your league hold your draft the old fashioned way? If so, we can handle that too. Simply hold your draft and record the results. Once the draft is completed, the Commissioner can either go into the Live Draft Tool and enter the players in pick by pick OR they can go into Commissioner Tools ---> General Setup ---> Load Rosters and add the players that way.
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| 128 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 10:45
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i think I only had to fix this:
Free Agent Deadlines During the preseason, league members are allowed to
Always
try adding your players now. let me know.
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| 129 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:07
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Holt, i never got a league invite.
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| 130 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:15
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I dont know what the hell is going on, I am typing in the league id and it keeps telling me the id should be numeric, well I am typing numbers what does it want from me?
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| 131 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:16
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hang on a sec
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| 132 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:19
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hmmmm
ID: 523126
wiggs - have you checked your junk mail. i just checked and I do have your correct e-mail at the league site.
if you use the invite that is sent to you then i assume that getting into the league might be easier.
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| 133 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:22
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yeah, i found it in my junk mail and clicked the link. I am all the way to the part where you enter the league info, but it is telling me it must be numeric.
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| 134 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:27
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still cant get in. I dont know what I did wrong but this is frustrating.
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| 135 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:30
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did you create an AOL username?
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| 136 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:33
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Somehow it let me in now. I dont know what i did different.
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| 137 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:37
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it is letting me add and drop players as well.
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| 138 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:42
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cool cool.
I'll try calling fugazi again.
got no answer earlier.
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| 139 | Hubble
ID: 56213211
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:16
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i'm here... picking in few secs...
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| 140 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:54
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when you're adding players to your roster, I think it's easiest if you use the 'draft' link (just click off-line draft). that way you can add them all at one time instead of having to submit picks over and over.
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| 141 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:31
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Does anyone know AOL's stance on position eligibility? The reason I ask is that I drafted DeMarcus Ware as a LB and AOL has him listed as a DL. This is definitely going to cause a bye week problem.
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| 142 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:50
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He is listed as a defensive end at NFL.com and was drafted as a DE. AOL is using data from fanball which also has him as a DE. I am thinking that they do not have multiple position eligibility for any players, especially IDP. He will probably stay listed as a DL for the season.
You are behind on your rationales, btw.
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| 143 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:02
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what tb says is true. he'll likely be left listed as a DL. I've changed his position within kafenatid from lb to dl.
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| 144 | Hubble
ID: 56213211
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:10
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12.13 Adam Vinatieri, K, NWE
At this point, i still had few WR, (Williamson, Callico, Lloyd) 2 TE (Johnson, Wiggins)on my list and some IDP… none standing above the crowd… except Wiggins (hoped he would slip since 11 people already had TE).. I thought it would be a good time to take yet another stud in a category where constant production is always nice. I'm really comfortable with the fact i have studs in every category except TE... I'll speak about depth in a post-draft analysis... I consider NWE being this year again an every week favorite and Adam V. should get his share of scores...
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| 145 | Hubble
ID: 56213211
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:11
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13.02 Jason Taylor, DL, MIA
Refering to rationale 12.13, i was missing a stud in the DL category, i thought it was time to deal with that issue… Taylor and Freeney are the meanest DL IMHO...
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| 146 | Hubble
ID: 56213211
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:13
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14.13 Jermaine Wiggins, TE, MIN
This is the 13th TE to be taken… and could have major upsides. If Kleinsasser does play and share the receptions with Wiggins, i might have to shop for another TE… But if not, Wiggins could become a premium red zone target for Culpepper. I don't expect him to get 700+ yds again this year, but something around 500 yds and 5 TDs would certainly do the trick. There was still few interesting gamble worthy in the TE department and could have waited until the last round... But no1 really did stand out and i thought i should pick my back-ups from now on. Whatever happens from now on, i'll be glad to tell my kids (yet to come) that i was the first with a complete line-up! And no-1 can take that away for me!!! NO-ONE!
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| 147 | Hubble
ID: 56213211
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:14
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15.02 Marcel Shipp, RB, ARI
Safety pick for JJ Arrington… not much to say, i don't know him and i don't want to use him… JJ Arrington will be rookie of the year!
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| 148 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:32
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I've tried to log onto the AOL league site multiple times over multiple days and everytime I get
"Invalid password for league 523126"
I created an AOL user name and I've tried using the link in all 3 of the invite emails that I have recieved.
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| 149 | holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:44
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i don't even remember what the pw is.
is it rotoguru?
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| 150 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 16:10
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ROTOGUR!U or ROTOGUR! U. I can't tell if there is a space between the ! and U, but I've tried both multiple times without success.
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| 151 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 16:37
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I tried logging out, but it won't log me back in. So I created a new ID. Now I get 'All league ID's are the numeric. Please enter the league Number not the Name'.
That's exactly how it's written. I already had the league number in there.
I'm getting frustrated
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| 152 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 16:49
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mjd, I had the same problem, make sure you are under league manager and not draft and play.
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| 153 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:30
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Tried that. Still no go.
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| 154 | holt
ID: 587571722
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:50
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strange.
did you try just rotoguru?
i'm sure I didn't add any spaces or anything.
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| 155 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:03
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14.08 Washington Defense
I wasn't sure what to do with this pick. It was too early to go after the kicker that I wanted. (I wanted Wilkins, but he was chosen just before I was going to pick him). So it was either an IDP or my 2nd defense. I noticed that one team had not chosen a D yet, so I picked a D. This is honestly the only pick I made to block another team.
As it turns out, I think it was a good pick for my team, anyway. Pittsburgh, my 1st D, has a bye on week 4. On week 4, Washington plays Seattle at home. We'll see about Seattle, but it is a home game for my D that week.
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| 156 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:10
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holt, yeah, I've tried caps, no caps. Space, no space and several other combinations. I just wasted an hour trying to get in and I have to stop for now. I'll get another person to try for me later, just in case it is me.
It wouldn't be the first time I was unable to do a simple task on a computer.
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| 157 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 19:19
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15.07 Micheal Turner, RB, SD
I wanted to get my kicker here, but needed some depth at RB and when I saw LT's backup on the board, I couldn't resist. Despite having the best RB on the planet (IMHO), Marty being Marty, will have a brain fart sometime during the year and go to a RBBC. He's been doing it his entire coaching career.
I still remember Christian Okoye and Barry Word when he coached in KC. In 1989, Okoye ran for 1480 yds on 370 tries. The following year he only had 805 yds on 245 carries and Word had 204 for 1015 yds. And the Mack/Byner combo when he coached the Browns in the late 80's. Injuries were not an issue in either situation.
All that said, keep an eye on **** ****, the rookie speedster.
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| 158 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 19:25
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Oops, Turner should be 16.08. If it wasn't such a long rationale, I'd delete it because it is too early.
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| 159 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 19:50
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15.07 Bobby Engram, WR, SEA
THIS is 15.07. Turner is 16.08.
My last memory of Engram is of him dropping a game winning TD pass in a playoff game last year. Not a great pass, but one he should have cradled. Such is life for a Seattle reciever. He now becomes a candidate for back up to DJ, since **** **** has drank his career into the slammer.
At this point he is probably just holding a roster spot for my 1st FA pickup unless he produces early and often.
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| 160 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:47
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Queue sent to TB.
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| 163 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:19
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Holt, I am looking at the the league settings and do not see where IDP get return yard scoring. I saw where you said our scoring would be the same as the RIFC, but after Culdeus posted the question above, I went and looked and don't see it.
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| 164 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:22
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IDP return yardage was not listed on our scoring. I picked my players not assuming return yards because it was not listed.
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| 165 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:25
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See initial post in this thread:
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
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| 166 | culdeus
ID: 6722322
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:27
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grrrrr....
IIRC it wasn't that way last year.
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| 167 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:45
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Toral, I recently edited the initial post to add scoring for a quick reference.
Culdeus, we talked about it but Guru said Fanball wouldn't support it. Then, around week 3 we realized it was scoring for IDP, so Guru allowed the changed but subtracted the previous points.
In the original thread from Guru this is what he said, "This thread is for the organization of the 2005 Qualifing Leagues for the (2006) RIFC...The purpose of Qualifying Leagues is to allow managers to earn their way to the next level. Each Qualifying League will be structured with the same configuration and rules as the RIFC."
From post #118 in our initial thread: from Holt - we will mirror the RIFC rules as closely as possible. actually - we may even do it better than the RIFC. from what I understand they aren't able to include blocked punts in their blocked kicks category (which was their intent). we will be able to do this with aol.
I drafted based on those statements above from other threads. Otherwise, Azumah belongs on no RIFC roster.
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| 168 | holt
ID: 16735225
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 00:41
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it's just that fanball's scoring system is worded very poorly.
keep in mind that when fanball says 'Offensive Players', it's actually referring to IDP's as well .
compare our league set-up to RIFC's and you'll see that it's identical.
___________________
- Kickoff Return Touchdowns
Offensive Players and Team Defenses get the following points:
Award 6.00 points for kickoff return touchdowns in the range of 0 to 110.
- Punt Return Touchdowns
Offensive Players and Team Defenses get the following points:
Award 6.00 points for punt return touchdowns in the range of 0 to 110.
- Kickoff Return Yards
Offensive Players get the following points:
Award 0.04 points for each 1 kickoff return yard.
- Punt Return Yards
Offensive Players get the following points:
Award 0.10 points for each 1 punt return yard.
____________________
the offensive players referred to above include any individual player. kickers, DB's, qb's, dl, everyone.
this is where the confusion came from last season.
for anyone who wasn't aware that IDP's receive points for returns, all I can say is that you haven't been reading the rifc or our own discussion threads thoroughly. this was an issue last season. it was discussed in the rifc and clarified again this season, and I'm sure the topic came up in our own discussion.
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| 169 | holt
ID: 16735225
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 00:51
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anyway, if all you have to go by is the 'League Rules' page at the league site, then it is pretty much impossible to decipher that IDP's are credited for returns, so I can understand why someone would think that they're not. but - it's been discussed so much in so many different threads I've just assumed that everyone was aware of this. it's even mentioned in rationale threads.
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| 170 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 01:44
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I referred to it in my 13.07 rationale, post 118 on this thread until it's moved to the rationales thread.
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| 171 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 08:00
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i also mentionned in rationales my 8.13 and 11.02
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| 172 | culdeus
ID: 516121713
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 08:34
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anyway, if all you have to go by is the 'League Rules' page at the league site, then it is pretty much impossible to decipher that IDP's are credited for returns, so I can understand why someone would think that they're not.
Precisely, I remember this being an issue and I just sort of figured it was impossible to give them the points. I never looked into it past that. Oh well.
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| 173 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:45
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culdeus picked Washington defense at 18.10; it had already been picked at 14.08. I have e-mailed culdeus to teell him this.
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| 174 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:54
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culdeus has informed me by e-mail that one of his q-holders made the pick for him and that he was about to pick Reggie Williams WR Jax.
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| 175 | Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:56
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ugh. this is dumb.
i made the pick for Culdeus, and i got NO stop sign when i made the pick.
it appears that MJD33333 quite possibly ran the stop sign when he picked "Washington Defense" instead of "Washington Redskins". it appears he did it for both of his defenses.
can we fix those?
also, Culdeus would like reggie williams wr jax instead of Washington.
can someone make this change?
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| 177 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 17:18
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16.13 Labrandon Toefield, RB, JAX
Another reach, thinking that if Taylor goes down… Also i read some good report about this guy, nothing else was really amazing… the last few player i target as back-ups would probably go undrafted, so i don't really care about if it is a reach or not from now on
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| 178 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 17:19
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17.02 Heath Miller, TE, PIT
Back up plan if Wiggins share duty with that Kleinsasser… but it could turn out to be a sweet selection since many people are really thrilled with this rookie… some even say 6 TD could be possible. Sure… ahem...
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| 179 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 18:12
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I'm headed out to a local tavern for a live draft. If someone wants to call me when I'm up. I can't come up with a 15 man queue.
864 4237708
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| 180 | holt
ID: 33703118
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 19:31
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fixed mjd's defense names and switched culdeus' pick to williams.
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| 181 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 21:38
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Wasting little time after his release by the Cincinnati Bengals one day earlier, wide receiver Peter Warrick on Wednesday afternoon signed a one-year contract with the Seattle Seahawks and TB's RIFC AAA Fantasy team, despite avid interest from other teams.
It is also believed that Warrick will return punts for the Seahawks and TB, who have been seeking to add another veteran wideout.
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| 182 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 21:47
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TB: nice pick of Chester Taylor. I was a-lookin' at him.
Toral
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| 183 | holt
ID: 33703118
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 21:59
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wiggs
17.01 Andre Davis WR CLE
toral
19.11 Andre Davis LB CLE
ok - there is a WR Andre Davis, but he plays for new england.
and there is an Andra Davis that plays lb for cleveland.
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| 184 | holt
ID: 33703118
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:01
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i'm changing the picks to reflect
andre davis, wr, ne
and
andra davis, lb, cle
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| 185 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:03
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The wr Davis was traded and was prob Yahoo! listed as at Cle when he was drafted.
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| 186 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:30
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I thought Mike V might grab Taylor as his hand-cuff, but he didn't. Three years in a row I have drafted Taylor on at least one fantasy team. Last year he even got some starts on my seriously injured team. I am not wishing any evil on Lewis, but has he even played any preseason games yet? I was planning on drafting Norcutt on the turn but you snatched him right after I picked Green.
Warrick was not who I wanted in this last spot, but what the heck. I think I will use what I posted above for my rationale if we ever start putting placeholders and decide to finish posting them. I keep writing mine, but am thinking it is a waste of time.
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| 187 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:39
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I think I will use what I posted above for my rationale if we ever start putting placeholders and decide to finish posting them. I keep writing mine, but am thinking it is a waste of time.
I understand the feeling, but don;t give into it. I'm way behing in my rationales, but I'm involved in a couple of very intense drafts, quick pix. I luv reading yours (I loved the "before Rod Smith" rationale -- 'he couldn't pick him because he would have 2 guyz in the same bye week!')
I'll be catching up my rationales when this very intense period ends.
I commished an RIBC-AAA league in 2004, and I sent rationale warnings, encouragements, once warned folks that they could be thrown out of the league if they didn't do rationales, etc. Didn't work.
What might work here is what Christians would call gentle but firm supplication, advising managers that people would like to read their rationales (which is true) and so they might want to consider doing them.
Toral
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| 188 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:59
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I was watching some backup RBs go up the line in the draft, and I thought, they're handcuffing. Then I checked the draft grid, and I laughed out loud, "NO, they're stealing others' handcuffs!" Somthing I luv to do in FF, BTW!
Toral
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| 189 | Tree
ID: 118215
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 07:01
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after going out of town last weekend, i've been playing catch up on my DRAFTS all weekened, much less the rationales.
i'll catch up on the rationales this weekend...
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| 190 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 07:26
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Ditto.
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| 191 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 07:28
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Nice pick of Hartwell, Mike v. When I saw that pick, I swore that he must have been picked before, because he should have gone much higher. Nope. I found I had crossed him off my sheet because of bye-week issues.
Great pick though.
Toral
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| 192 | holt
ID: 33703118
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 08:17
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peter n.
I just noticed that you had terrell suggs entered as a DL at kafenatid.
he's listed as an LB at our league site.
I edited his position at kafenatid.
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| 193 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:15
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17.07 Matt Stover
I initially wanted a dome kicker, Jeff Wilkins, in particular, but my gamble to get him here fell 2 picks short. After looking at Stover a little closer, I'm actually very pleased. He is a consistant fantasy kicker, at 82.5% lifetime and even better of late. I also like the fact that his bye is early in the season.
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| 195 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 11:20
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18.08 James Farrior, LB, PIT
He deflected 12 passes, returned an interception for a TD, and forced 3 fumbles last year. I'm hoping for more of the same this year.
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| 196 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 15:09
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THK just timed out. I did leave a voice mail right after I picked.
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| 197 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 18:00
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18.13 Terry Glenn, WR, DAL
Needed another WR to cover for my bye weeks… chances are he will be injured, but i just hope he last until week 5… Apparently he had a very good preseason and some people were impressed… So why not… he'is a starter after all.
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| 198 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 18:04
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19.02 David Patten, WR, WAS
You want to see someone not excited about a pick? Look at me! It was taken from a short Q i did sent for pick 18.13… and wanted only 1 WR with my 2 picks (18.13 and 19.02). Came back too late to cancel my Q…. Result: Patten is on my team. No doubt he will be the first man to go on F/A. Since my last 2 picks are going to be my FLEX IDP and my back-up QB....
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| 199 | Hubble
ID: 59562922
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 18:07
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Good job all... was a fun draft.
It was a little desappointment that almost no1 did write rationales... but hopefully you guys will make some post-draft analysis. It is always to read those. Especially the prediction part.
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| 200 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:08
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19.07 Erron Kenney, TE, TEN
My 2nd TE and most probably my backup if he can stay healthy. At best, he stays healthy and produces enough to get a spot start or 2. At worse, FA placeholder.
No high expectations, here.
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| 201 | THK new home
ID: 27752210
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:14
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Sorry guys...stressful day. Thanks to everyone who called and kept me updated. Sorry for the confusing, very hectic settling into college life for sure...
Good luck this season all!
THK
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| 202 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:54
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I still can't log onto the blasted website to see my team. Several people have tried.
I'm trying to log on right from the invite that holt sent out.I sent an email to customer service.
If I don't hear from them tomorrow, I probably won't hear anything until Tuesday.
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| 203 | holt
ID: 33703118
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 20:53
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can't imagine what the problem is. we need everyone to get their team in place asap. that way we can have time for the freeze period and FA period before the season starts.
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| 204 | holt
ID: 33703118
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:02
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mjd - fugazi just signed up at aol with no problem. the pw is ROTOGURU.
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| 205 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:30
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I finally got on, but I've tried this way many times before.
This time I did stand on one leg and hop around in a circle with my eyes closed.
Works every time, I just had to find the right sequence.
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| 208 | holt
ID: 33703118
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 01:29
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12.07 Reche Caldwell, WR, SD
an up-side pick. big play threat. he's listed at WR3 right now but I don't think that will last too long. I don't care what the depth chart says now - he's a WR1.
I don't know how far he would have fallen but this was farther than I could stand.
he fell off the radar because of last year's knee injury, but he's fine now.
great moves and speed, and he can't be double-teamed because of gates and tomlinson.
13.08 Tyrone Calico, WR, TEN
I don't really need him but I think he'll have a good year. I had my eye on him for several rds and at this point in the draft there was no one else that I felt strongly about.
I do have a lot of WR's, but I'd like to make a trade or two this year and depth is what gets deals done.
a lot of people think he has big potential and who am I to argue wit that? in his rookie season he did show that he has a nose for the endzone. 10 td's or more isn't out of the question.
14.07 Brian Griese, QB, TAM
still needed a backup QB and he's the only one I could stomach other than maybe Big Ben.
I don't think he would have lasted another round. I hope I only have to start him one time, but if culpepper does go down I feel I still have a chance to win with Griese (as opposed to Boller).
his 97.5 passer rating last year is nothing to sneeze at.
15.08 Brandon Jacobs, RB, NYG
a handcuff pick, but I like this guy. he's humongous but is also blessed with great speed.
read a little from Brandon's diary.
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| 209 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 01:51
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Blame it on the few beers I have consumed this evening, but I have to wonder why you are posting your 12.07 rationale in here when the rationale thread has been stuck at 12.05 for the last three days? You are not only one spot away, meaning put in one placeholder and post your rationale, but you are also the commish. I think the three of us that have put about 90% of the placeholders should be able to take a break while the 7-8 owners who have yet to put one for another owner go ahead and build the other 121 placeholders.
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| 210 | holt
ID: 33703118
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 03:32
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I don't expect a lot more rationales to be posted. figured they'd just be posted in bulk.
plus, if I had even the slightest clue of how to copy posts and insert them into placeholders, then maybe I would involve myself with that.
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| 211 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:39
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Nobody said anything about inserting rationales. Just putting the draft pick name and the word placeholder. There are plenty of examples already in the thread.
Scooby Doo, WR, PIT
Placeholder
And then press enter.
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| 212 | holt
ID: 33703118
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51
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TB - I know you're upset about the way rationales have gone in this league, but I'd like to remind you that this isn't the RIFC. I've never seen rationales go smoothly in any of the invitational minor leagues, so don't take it out on me.
if you want the full-fledged rationale experience I suggest that you win this league and move on to the RIFC where they are required. they are nice to see in the minor leagues but they are voluntary. whatever free time I have now is going to be spent adding players to rosters and entering this season's schedule. adding dozens of placeholders that won't be used isn't real high on my list of priorities.
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| 213 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:05
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Gotcha.
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| 214 | holt
ID: 33703118
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 16:30
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just loaded fugazi's roster.
still need to do mjd, pete n, tree, thk, culdeus, and bmd.
when these are done there will be a 48 hour period where all available players will be on waivers and claims can be submitted. claims will be in reverse order of our draft-SLOT picking order.
I don't think that this particular waiver period can be automated at AOL (I'll check). we may need to do it through e-mail. I believe that's the way the RIFC is doing it.
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| 215 | holt
ID: 33703118
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 17:37
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i've got some more rosters loaded.
double-check your rosters and make sure everything is right.
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| 216 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 18:28
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Excel Link to Final Drafted Rosters
HTML Link to Final Drafted Rosters
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| 217 | culdeus
ID: 516121713
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 19:16
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Two choices. I finish my rationales or I grade drafts in a manner similar to:
this thread
I'll probably restrict it to Offense/Defense/Worst Pick though.
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| 218 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 22:33
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I am not in that other league, but enjoyed reading your thoughts. It's too bad that most of them will only pick out what they disagree with instead of adding their own full thoughts to the discussion.
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| 219 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 23:34
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I vote for grades rather then rationale.
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| 220 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 23:44
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I'd be up for doing an outsider's review of this league if someone will return the favor for the AAA league I'm in.
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| 221 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 23:46
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I would be willing to give it a shot beezer, just hope no one jumps down my throat :) do you have a spreadsheet so I can see all the picks without scrolling down the draft thread?
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| 222 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 00:01
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I just re-read post 212 and am curious why you have to make the schedule. Is there not an option for the site to generate a schedule? If they are using fanballs software it seems like it would be generated for us. I thought a couple times during the draft it would be nice to see how I was matching up against my weekly opponents (an option with DD) and wished a schedule was already generated. I shot an email to aol and asked them why it was not an option.
BTW, If I really have to play Wiggs this year, I want it to be on week 10. =)
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| 223 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 00:10
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wiggs, I'll shoot you an email with that info. I can get that info off the kafenatid site so I'll just use that.
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| 224 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 00:18
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Email sent.
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| 225 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 00:22
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i am looking right now.
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| 226 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 01:25
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Well, at least we know aol support will give us a quick response:
Original question/comment: FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE MANAGER: I am curious how come we have our league set-up and there isn't a schedule. Does the commish have to manually make a schedule or does he have the option to request that you automatically generate a schedule? Thanks in advance for your response.
Response
Date: 9/3/05 12:13 AM
Kinsey replied: Thanks for the email. You can set up a default schedule by clicking on Schedule Setup under the Commissioner tab and then clicking on Setup Default Schedule. You will pick the number of weeks that you want your Regular Season to be.
If you would like to manually set up the schedule you will go to Schedule Setup and then click on View/Edit Schedule. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
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| 227 | holt
ID: 33703118
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 01:39
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we have to manually enter our schedule because we use double-headers.
they do have a default schedule for normal head to head but for some reason they don't have one for double-headers. RIFC has to make up their own schedule as well.
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| 228 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 02:11
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That sucks. Wish I could help you some way. You would think that when a site offers double-headers it would also generate a double-header schedule. Maybe you can just ask Guru for his set-up by team numbers.
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| 229 | holt
ID: 33703118
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 03:09
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yeah that's what I'm gonna do. i think they have some kind of round-robin chart worked out, so I'll use that one. I think I saw it in one of their threads. have to see if I can dig it up.
and true, I don't see why fanball/aol can't generate a double-header schedule. laziness on the part of their programmers I'm guessing. I should have it done pretty soon though.
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| 230 | Tree
ID: 3884735
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 07:07
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ok. i'm not sure how i did it, but i just set it up where it automatically scheduled both doubleheader games, in the league where i'm a commish.
let me go back and see how i did this...
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| 231 | Tree
ID: 3884735
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 07:12
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ok. really simple actually, it appears.
1. go into the "Schedule setup" under the commissioner controls.
choose "doubleheader option", and make sure you do that whole "YES" thing to confirm.
2. go back into the "Schedule setup" under the commissioner controls."
choose "shuffle current schedule" and do so.
3. then go to "league" and check the schedule. it should show you "Week one, game one" and "Week one, game two," and so on...
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| 232 | holt
ID: 33703118
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 07:45
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i did the shuffle thing to set the game 1 stuff, but so far it looks like i'll have to enter the game 2 schedule myself. the game 2 info is still empty.
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| 233 | Tree
ID: 3884735
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 08:09
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i did the shuffle thing to set the game 1 stuff, but so far it looks like i'll have to enter the game 2 schedule myself. the game 2 info is still empty.
then you're not doing something right, because it worked fine the way i did it.
maybe reset your cookies? i'm sitting here staring at a double header schedule.
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| 234 | Tree
ID: 3884735
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 08:12
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any sort of schedule stuff you change (such as "Choose Default Schedule") that you do AFTER you set it to double headers, and do the shuffle, will screw it up...
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| 235 | holt
ID: 33703118
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 09:29
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when I do it the way you say it gives the same opponent for games 1 and 2.
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| 236 | Tree
ID: 3884735
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 09:57
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ugh. well holy crap, it does, doesn't it.
well, it was a nice idea. back the drawing board. :o( sorry amigo.
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| 237 | holt
ID: 33703118
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 19:33
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all rosters are loaded now.
do NOT pick up any free agents.
consider all current FA's to be on waivers from now until 12:00 noon tuesday.
waivers will be run in reverse order of our draft-slot picking order.
if you want to submit a claim, send it to my e-mail and make sure the message name says WAIVER. I won't look at any of them til it's time to process them.
once the season starts our waiver process will be automated, but we have to do this first waiver period manually.
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| 238 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 13:34
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10.04 T. J. Duckett, RB, Atl
At this point my preference for picking up useful backups before starting on IDPs shows itself. As a goal-line back Duckett is a reasonable play if RB-challenged even when Dunn is healthy and becomes very valuable if Dunn goes down.
11.11 Justin McCareins, WR, NYJ
Good things are being said about the possibility of McCareins benefitting from being reunited with his old offensive coordinator in Tennessee, and with #1 receiver in New York being of dubious quality, I like McCareins as my WR 4.
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| 239 | holt
ID: 26810414
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 15:28
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my e-mail again.
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| 240 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 17:19
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12.04 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, DEF
It seemed time to grab a satisfactory D even though 12 or so were already gone, in case people began snatching up a 2nd D. This was an underperforming defence last year but unlike many I see a bounceback despite age and defections. Indianapolis, the other choice I considered here, went the very next pick.
13.11 Travis Taylor, WR, Minn
Lots of IDP value left so they can wait one more round. A pick that may seem quirky to many here as I grab the perennially inderachieving Taylor. Yet he has the #2 job over [undrafted player] and some person or persons are going to have a massive year in this offence. Burleson is the heavy favourite, but Taylor cannot be ruled out.
14.04 Antonio Pierce, LB, NYG
The Giants' middle linebacker has had near or over 100 tackles for 3 years in a row. Only question about him is whether Washington's fabulous defensive schemes last year made him look better than he is.
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| 241 | mjd
Donor
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 00:36
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Thanks to TB for picking up the tab on Kafenatid. I really like drafting there.
Thanks to holt, the commish. A 4 hour clock really worked out great.
Thanks to all members of our league. I'm playing baseball with alot of you, and I'm really enjoying the tough competition.
Kudos to all.
PS I still owe my last 2 rationales and they are forthcoming.
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| 242 | holt
ID: 38830518
Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 15:54
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there were no waiver requests, so feel free to pick up FA's now.
keep in mind that anyone released from a roster will be on waivers for 48 hours. AOL doesn't process waivers during the preseason period - so you'll need to e-mail me with a waiver request if you want to pick up a released player. after this weekend all waivers will be automated.
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| 243 | holt
ID: 38830518
Wed, Sep 07, 2005, 15:59
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ATTENTION:
just in case any slackers haven't noticed, the first NFL game of the season is on THURSDAY. this is WEDNESDAY.
that means you might want to start thinking about checking your roster.
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I have our complete schedule charted out and I'm in the process of entering it into AOL. week 1 opponents are now in place.
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