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0 Subject: RIFC AAA#1 Discussion 2

Posted by: Trip - Sustainer [13961611] Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:44
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Draft Thread

Promize's Draft Grid

Here are the rules.

Rationales 1

Rationales 2
1deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:57 		let me catch up on my picks and I'll pick in a few minutes.
2youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:12 		damn, Minnesota defense came close to me.
3Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:24 		Deepsnapper...Ware is listed as a DL in Fanball. You got a real steal there.
4youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:45 		Trip - is everyone able to load their rosters at AOL? I just added my current 16 players to my team.
5Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:50 		Youngroman...

I didn't give you any special powers, but I really don't see why everyone else can't as well. I will have to review everyone's rosters, but that would be easier than me entering everyone's team.

If others want to do the same, feel free. It might help people unfamiliar with Fanball get oriented with the site as well.

That being said, I will do my best to update rosters this weekend. I meant to do it last weekend.
6deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:04 		Thanks for noticing that Trip, I was hoping Ware was going to be listed as a DL. :)

Fred - Fred (as in KKB) is looking for you in the football forum.
7Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:26 		Thanks for advice, I loaded my team up also now on AOL
8Bags
      ID: 246103120
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:17 		Is someone availabe so I can send them a queue?
9Bags
      ID: 246103120
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:23 		I will be leaving for work and won't be able to check in 'till 6pm (cst)
10 StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:30 		I'll take it Bags
11StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:48 		Guess Bags is already gone as I never got a queue
12wolfer
      Sustainer
      ID: 18639422
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 15:38 		I'm here.
13 Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 15:54 		I am always available to take a queue unless otherwise stated.

Unless there are any objections, we will be running the clock over the weekend.
14coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:05 		Re: kick and punt return yards.

I am probably going a little senile but I can not read in the rules
anywhere that it says that IDPs get points for return yards?
Help!
15StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:09 		Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
16coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:12 		StL... sorry but I am still lost....where does it say this in the
"rules' linked at the top of this thread?
17StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:26 		I see what you mean CC. I don't see it in the linked rules. I was going by what Guru had posted in his RIFC thread.
18Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:31 		Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

RIFC Predraft Discussion - Post 184
19Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:33 		It probably should be clarified in the custom rules. I will amend ours on the site as well.
20The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 17:38 		I posted on the football forum thread with the link to see about getting it updated. I hadn't noticed it until CC pointed it out, but he's right - it didn't say anything about it. I hate that it affected other manager's picks - hopefully no one shot themselves in the foot too badly as a result.
21Bags@work
      ID: 147512317
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 19:17 		I'm here and will make my pick shortly.
22The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 02:55 		We're into the last 5 rounds so here's some numbers on the draft so far:

Current status: 230 picks made in 17 days, 68 picks remaining.

Speed: 13.5 picks per day
M-F speed: 14.8 picks per day (193 in 13 days)
Weekend speed: 9.25 picks per day (37 in 4 days)

At the current rate, we should be done by around 7pm EDT on Thursday. Nice job of keeping it moving - let's keep it going.
23youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 04:31 		just did my pick. I will be unavailable from around 7am to 6pm ET today. I don't think that the draft will be that quick today to make it back to me.
24Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 11:43 		Grid updated through 17.06
25StLCards
      ID: 527501213
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 13:32 		queue sent to Trip for my next pick
26The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 14:04 		Queue sent to Trip for my next pick as well.
29loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 18:58 		Pancho Villa-Sebastian Janikowski was picked at 18.02.-l
30Pancho Villa
      ID: 57582616
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 19:43 		Sorry, I was looking at Promises's draft grid. Will re-pick.
31StLCards
      ID: 527501213
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 20:16 		I guess you saw Longwell was already taken too?
32Pancho Villa
      ID: 57582616
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 20:18 		I'm really sorry, guys. I'm trying to work and be in two slow drafts and this one is into round 18. No excuse, just not paying close enough attention.
33Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:04 		No Problem Pancho- I am very surprised we don't get more of these and I expect we will in the last 3 rounds as things get very tight.
34Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:24 		Draft Grid Updated Through 18.9
39 Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 15:21 		Promize, i am in the AA league and i was wondering how you posted your draft grid online like that? i would like to do that for our league since i am bored beyond reason. Drop me an e-mail
40deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 15:24 		Trip - sent you a 2 player queue for round 18. I'm OOP for a few hours. Hope that's okay.
41Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 16:41 		Email sent Kyle, but simply enough you just save an excel file as a webpage... its an option under FILE
42Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 16:42 		LOL Hopefully we can finish these 2 rounds in the next 2 days... Big possibly I am going out of town again starting on Tuesday... So lets please hurry! :)

43Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 17:00 		Promize thanks for the e-mail but now how do i send it out? I tried but it only is a link to my documents and other people in the league can't get into my computer (unless they are a hacker)
44Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 18:59 		You don't have any webspace to upload it to? All I did was upload it to my webspace. :) Other then that, I guess you could email your league an .xls file.
45Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:00 		Kyle...

See this thread. Promize has his own web page which he publishes that to. I am assuming it is an excel file, in which case, you can post it in a thread by following the directions here.

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/comp/37.shtml?1088527144

However, I would post it in its own thread as it will make a discussion thread almost unreadable.
46Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:05 		I'm just back. Let me look over my (now exhausted!) cheatsheets and make a pick. Thanks for covering for me, CC.
47The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 20:47 		Guess I can scratch YR off my Christmas card list. :)
48Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 02:59 		Rosters have been set. Please review for accuracy.
49Bags
      ID: 246103120
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 13:28 		I'll make my picks in a few minutes.
50Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:03 		Who was who said procrastination never helps LOL.
Hopefully Parker won't be valuable for more than 2 weeks.
51StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:24 		Trip,
My roster was good up through my current pick, 18.04, except I that I was missing the Cowboys Defense. I added them. Thanks for setting rosters, I had planned to get mine done today.
52deepsnapper
      ID: 49339512
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:39 		Rationales 12.02, 12.14, 13.01, 13.11, 13.12, 13.13, 14.03. & 14.04 have been moved to the Rationale thread and deleted from this one.

If everyone could please make sure and put the "placeholder" mark under the Pick number and skip a line when when making a Placeholder for someone, it would be appreciated.

To insert the HTML text to create a blank line in the editor, we have to type it in and it's like - (!---|abreak|--->(br<)!---|abreak|---) every time you want a blank line. (I changed a couple of the characters to get them to show up or it'd be a blank line) lol

Thanks again.
53deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:40 		Give me about 5 to catup and I'll make my pick.
54wolfer
      ID: 11520611
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 15:36 		I will catch up on my rationales tonight.
55Promize
      ID: 107422910
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 16:50 		Hoping we can get done tonight, as I will be gone from Tuesday till Saturday on vacation (last minute thing) STLCards said he would take care of my last pick for me.. Don't expect anything big to be available then and have everything I need now.

I will check before I leave in the morning and tonight
56Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:54 		I'm a bit behind in the rationales too but it might be tomorrow before I can get caught up.
57loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:46 		Pancho-Review your last pick on the draft thread.
58Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:46 		I am around to turn the corner quickly... as long as loki desn't take my 2.

Only about half of the league appears to have any interest left in the rationales. I am proposing that after we complete round 14 in the rationales, everyone composes a draft summary.

Any objections?
59The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:49 		15.12 Matt Stover, PK, Bal

I was planning on going WR here but changed my mind when I saw Stover still here. I had him fourth on my board so I figured I'd take him while he was still there. The PK run I expected didn't materialize so I might have been able to wait, but I didn't see a good reason to risk it at the time.
60StLCards
      ID: 527501213
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:51 		Sounds good to me Trip.
61The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:53 		OK by me too.
62Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 00:44 		I'm hitting the sack. Wouldn't hurt for me to sleep on the guys I'm considering anyways.
63Promize
      ID: 107422910
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 09:14 		Guys I am literally walking out the door right now. So will not be around to make my picks. STLCards I think will be able to get it for me.

About 5pm eastern, if I have a computer, I will check in.
64deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 10:31 		Trip - summaries work for me too.
65loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:30 		Trip-Draft summary is fine. Just curious, Did I choose your player?
66Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:22 		loki...your player was one of 3 whom I considered, but I probably still would have selected Henderson, as the only thing that pushed me towards him is the fact that he went to Tennessee(my alma mater) while the other player considered went to Florida, and Ogunleye griped himself out of Miami (my favorite team)

67Bags
      ID: 246103120
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:13 		Trip-Draft summary is fine. I will not be able to post it until Wednesday.

***Willie Parker (probable starter for week 1) is available for trade. I'm looking for backup depth.
68loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:37 		I have forgotten, is the draft 20 or 21 rounds?
69deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:35 		loki - 21 rds
71loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:11 		Thanks. That's good to know because I made a stupid tactical error error in my draft--FOUR players from one team!!
72Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:10 		Loki, check your e-mail.
73loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:53 		Trip-Reply sent.-l
74Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 20:31 		Will pick in a few, guys. Had to shut down for an electrical storm for a few hours. Had to spend some "family time."
75 Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:54 		Planning ahead, since we are nearing the end of the draft. As you may recall...
"at the end of the draft, all undrafted players are placed on waivers for 2 days, during which time waiver claims can be submitted. The priority order for preseason waiver claims is the reverse of the random draw for selecting draft order."
Thus the priority order for post draft waiver claims will be:

1 Stl Cards
2 pancho villa
3 loki
4 beezer
5 trip
6 coldwater coyotes
7 slowhand
8 promize
9 valkyrie
10 perm dude
11 deepsnapper
12 wolfer
13 youngroman
14 bags

The Fanball system will not adminster this process, so we will need to do it manually.

The 48 hour waiver period will not begin until all rosters have been filled at Fanball. I will announce when this period starts. At that time, all add/drop roster transactions will be temporarily frozen. If you wish to place a waiver claim for an undrafted player, you will need to submit your claim to me via email.
76Promize@HiltonHead
      ID: 47263110
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 11:33 		Are we using Fanball now or AOL? I'm confused...

And I am just checkin in ... on this short 15 minute computer access I get.. grrr...

77Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 11:36 		We are using aol. That was a cut/paste job from guru's posting in the RIFC thread.
78loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:25 		Trip-Check your e-mail.-l
79Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:32 		Trade announcement

Trip trades Dunta Robinson (14.01) to Loki for Ed Hartwell (13.13)

Loki, please confirm.
80loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:38 		Trade confirmed.
81loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 18:47 		Lets get this done tonight!!!!
82Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 18:48 		Draft Rationale

10.07 Marshall Faulk,RB, StL.

I may have waited a bit too long to get a back-up running back; but a couple of years ago this guy was on the top of everyone's draft list.I think he'll still get a few carries and if Jackson gets injured while he won't approach his numbers of a few years ago should still do well.
83Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 18:55 		Draft Rationale

11.08 L.J.Smith, TE, Phi.

My last skill position to fill.I had Smith at the top of my third tier of tight ends and felt if I waited there could be a drop off in talent;but truthfully other than Gonzales,Gates and maybe Heap I think any of the next 10 tight ends will be very close in production.

84Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 19:01 		Draft Rationale

12.07 Braylon Edwards, WR, Cle.

I drafted Edwards moments after I heard the Browns traded Andre Davis to the Pats for draft picks.This assured Edwards of a starting role.I was happy to get a starting WR this late in the draft but with the Brown's anemic offense,and Dilfer at QB I'm not sure he'll start vey often on my team.
85Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 19:06 		Draft Rationale

13.08 Ronde Barber, DB, TB

Needed to start building my defense. Last year I waited for my final picks to get my defesive players and I think it hurt my team. Barber is still one of the top backs on a defense that will spend alot of time on the field.
86Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 19:10 		Draft Rationale

14.07 Will Witherspoon, LB, Car.

I think this Defense could be one of the best this year and Witherspoon should be good for sacks and a couple of inteceptions.
87Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:17 		Almost done fellas!
88Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:59 		Sorry, Beezer took my guy. Don't have time to look right now. It's been a crazy morning. I will have all rosters loaded by the end of the day today. You will need to send your waiver claims to me by the end of day tomorrow, and I will process them on Saturday morning.
89Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 18:21 		All rosters are complete. Please review to verify accuracy. I will open the free agent wire up on Saturday morning. If you wish to make a waiver claim, see my e-mail as noted in post 75.

I assume there were no objections to the trade between myself and loki and have pushed it through.
90Pancho Villa
      ID: 197552915
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 20:44 		Trip,
You had mentioned a draft review by all managers. I'm assuming that will be an entirely new thread.
91Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:38 		Here you go Pancho.

AAA#1 Draft Recap
92Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 17:36 		All free agents are now available. I received no waiver requests.
93FRICK
      ID: 3410101718
      Wed, Sep 07, 2005, 21:51 		To the commish of this league


What setting do you have kick returns on.

I am commishing the AA league and I only see 3 options for kick returns.

Offensive Player gets the points
Team Defense gets the points
Offensive Player and Team Defense gets the points

Which setting credits points to IDP's for returns?

Thank you
94Trip
      ID: 1083517
      Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 09:42 		Offensive Player gets the points.

The general understanding is that offensive players includes IDPs. The other settings will award points to team defenses as well.
95FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 09:48 		Thanks Trip.

96loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 15:19 		The DL/LB issue with Damarcus Ware is being discussed in the RIFC discussion thread in the Football Forum. It is worth following if we plan on keeping our rules the same as RIFC.
97Trip
      ID: 1083517
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 07:53 		We will follow whatever precedent the RIFC sets.
98loki
      ID: 4211201420
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 13:49 		Trip-The rules indicate that there is a minimum number of players that must start at a position. Bearing that in mind, is a roster valid if the starter has a bye? I assume that it would be valid, but would like clarification. Thanks.

Re: #96 and #97: Ware will be a DL for the season in RIFC.-l
99StLCards
      ID: 2881469
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 14:01 		I think we have a different situation than found in RIFC. In RIFC, Ware was drafted as a DL and was designated as such in the pick. He was put into the lineup as a DL before the eligibility change. In RIFC AAA#1, Ware was drafted as a LB and designated as such. Ware is not currently in Deepsnapper's lineup and he does have a DL in his starting lineup.

Maybe Roy drafted him as a DL, and following the RIFC is fine with me, but what if Roy really drafted him as a LB a to begin with? Seems like a lot of extra work and chance for errors by altering the configuration and manually tracking lineups for screwups each week if the position eligibility doesn't effect Deepsnapper to begin with. I can't answer that question, but thought it worth bringing up anyway.
100Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 14:25 		If Ware was drafted as a LB, then I certainly wouldn't make the adjustment in this league.
101Trip
      ID: 1083517
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 15:55 		Ware will be LB eligible only then. He wasn't ever put into deepsnappers lineup as a DL or LB and is on the bench anyways.

Loki (98) as long as there is a player in the position (regardless of bye week) the lineup would be valid.
102youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:30 		the season hasn't even started for all teams and I already suffered my first loss: I will have no tv-coverage this year. all I got is yesterdays opener and that's it. nasn.de hot the rights and is showing a minimum of 4 games every weekend but is only available in a few local cable's in Germany and some other countries in central europe, Austria not included. Thanks NFL, I'm officially pissed!

with that said I have to rely fully on the internet to get information what's really happening. no NFL blast, no NFL films, no weekly summaries of the games. Aahhhhhhrgllllll!!!!!!

with this handicap I would be surprised if I would win it all.
103StLCards
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 17:36 		Guru posted a list of scores at fanball for Thursday's game. I compared the list and found a couple of discrepancies. Maybe they are just transitory things, or maybe something else, but we should keep an eye on them.

Kevin Faulk 3.90 (aol) vs 4.58 (fan) seems that AOL hasn't added in the kick return yds. correctly.

Chris Carr 7.50 (aol) vs 7.54 (fan), seems to be a 1 yd kick return difference, although the raw stats listed at aol match those at Fanball

Tim Dwight 10.5 (aol) vs 10.9 (fan), punt return problem

Ellis Hobbs 1.00 (aol) vs 1.48 (fan)

Here is the problem. For whatever reason AOL isn't using fractions for kick and punt return yds. They are rounding off. If you include the fractional points for all these players then AOL would match.

Other scoring changes rippled through today, so maybe this one will too?

104Trip
      ID: 1083517
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 20:06 		StLCards

Thanks for doing the research. I have been correcting them piece by piece, but haven't had time to research that much myself. I will get the return yardage corrected shortly.
105The Beezer
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 10, 2005, 12:15 		Branch off to a good start. I've got him going against Moss in one game so I'm happy to only be 3.1 points down against him.

Are we starting a separate thread for regular season discussion or continuing here?
106Valkyrie
      ID: 47042413
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 02:20 		I appear to be missing Marty Booker WR, Moiami that I drafted 17.07 from my AOL roster- Not critical this week as I am not obviously not starting him but I would like to get him back before someone else picks him up on waivers.
Thanks.
107Valkyrie
      ID: 47042413
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 02:23 		I just picked him up- never mind.
108Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 19:45 		We picked AOL why?

Nothing works...

Live Game time stats - No
Sorting players for F/A - No

I'm not one to complain, but if you can't work with your team, why try?

109Tree
      ID: 298421218
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 19:47 		i realize i'm in the other league, but live game stats worked fine for me...
110Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 19:48 		I was taking a long time, but it should be better as we go on. First week always has the spikes in traffic.
111Trip
      ID: 188291121
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 20:59 		Note from Fanball (Whom AOL is using as their service). I hate AOL too, but c'mon, it's free. You saw how hard it was to get the league filled before it became free. Any suggestions on another commissioner service?

Fanball is very aware of the specific problems users had with Commissioner Live Scoring during Thursday's game, and again this weekend. We are now confident that all of these issues have been resolved, and ask that you use tonight's game as proof that we have made the needed corrections. To regain your confidence, we are pushing back the pay date for Fanball Commissioners to 9/28, which will allow an additional week to determine if Fanball Commissioner is the correct solution for your league.

On behalf of the entire Fanball team, I would like to convey to you our sincerest apology for any inconvenience you may have experienced with respect to Live Scoring and Commissioner. We continue to be committed to providing all of our customers with the highest standards of service in the industry, and are confident that you'll be extremely satisfied with our application moving forward.

Rob Phythian
President, Fanball

ESPN had similar (worse?) problems as AOL. I refuse to play in Yahoo! leagues, so I can't comment on how they went. Players will be available for sorting shortly. If the window is too short for you, we can consider changing the process time to Thursday.
112 loki
      ID: 08241016
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 22:05 		Trip-E-mail sent re: weeks 3 & 4-l
113Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 22:35 		I must be missing something then, cause I can't see any stats or points for Free Agents... Everything is sorted for 2004.. Am i missing something?
114Trip
      ID: 188291121
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 22:48 		Free agent stats should be posted tomorrow morning.
115StLCards
      ID: 2881469
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 11:05 		Trip, I think there is a problem that hopefully will correct itself. I see final records for Week 1, yet I don't see the Monday night games added into the scores yet when I look at Weekly Results. Is it just something on my end (cache or something) or do you see the same problem?
116loki
      ID: 35835139
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 11:34 		StLC-My Monday night stats were not recorded either, so it's probably an AOL/Fanball problem.-l
117youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:37 		for me it looks correct now.
nice to see me going 2-0 with a mediocre selection of my starting lineup. 83pts were sitting on my bench. that many talent available on my roster may hurt me in the future decision making process.
118Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 18:04 		If you have any questions on how submit a free agent claim, please let me know. Tomorrow at 1 PM is not the time to be asking questions.
You can peruse the free agent list and sort them however you like by clicking on Players->Free Agents or Players ->Player Listing and Stats.

There are three ways to drop/add players.

1. Drop/Add Players - This is to drop/add players when the after the weekly claiming process has gone through. During the regular season, league members are allowed to make their own free agent acquisitions:
Weekly starting Wednesday 01:00p EST and players lock 5 minutes before kickoff of their game

2. Free Agent Claim - This is the first chance to claim a player after the previous week's games. It is based on the waiver priorities as described in the rules. Free Agent Claims must be submitted by Wednesday at 12:00p EST every week. The Free Agent Claim priority criteria is the same as the waiver wire priority (listed below).

3. Waiver Wire - This is the first chance to claim players who have been dropped by the Free Agent Claim Process. Waivers
Requests made for players on the waiver wire are awarded to the highest ranking team. Team rankings are established each Tuesday morning. Your league is set to rank teams using the following criteria:

First Criteria: Worst to First, Win % (Last Week)
Second Criteria: Worst to First, Points Scored (Season)
Third Criteria: Worst to First, Points Scored (Last Week)
Fourth Criteria: Virtual Coin Toss

Teams are moved to the end of the ranking order when they are awarded a player.

Teams can add umlimited player(s) per week using the waiver wire system.

Players will immediately go to the waiver wire for 48 hours after player has been dropped.

If a player's waiver processing date/time is set to occur after the player's game for the week has started, the league is set to: Player becomes a Free Agent next week Tuesday at Noon EST.

You can complain on how clunky the free agent/waiver wire process is, but not to me or in this thread. Please send those complaints to AOL by clicking here.
119Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 19:18 		In other words, promize goes first... LOL :( What a horrible first week
120deepsnapper
      ID: 49339512
      Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 16:50 		Trip - re #100 and Ware. I drafted him as a LB and consider him as such so the matter is closed as far as I'm concerned.

For everyone's info. I've been diagnosed with a staph infection in the big joint of my left grand toe. I'm going to see an infectious disease specialist at UTSW on Monday and depending on what happens with him I'll either be on a 4 week antibiotic regimen or in for a 3 phase surgical procedure and off my feet for a while. I may not be around much for the next few days if anything pops. It all stems from my kidney infection if you can believe it. What a life!

I may not be real quick to respond to any trade offers or such as I won't be checking in real often. I try to check in as I can though (just have to sneak by the mrs. lol).
121StLCards
      ID: 527501213
      Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 21:44 		Hope everything goes well for you Roy. Let me know if I can do anything for you.
122Trip
      ID: 188291121
      Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 23:55 		Roy,

Same thing stands...I will shoot you an e-mail later with suggestions. If there is anything I can do, say the word.
123Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 01:35 		Perm Dude: Santana Moss & Bears D = 60.7 Points

I want a picture of your S$#@ eating grin when you wake up tomorrow.

I must admit, I've got a mighty one on myself...I've got S. Moss in my HS league, especially after my friend called me at halftime to rub my impending loss in (never, ever, do that btw).

I am now praying that I break even this week in this league but I have an awful feeling that I will end up losing both games while scoring the 4th highest points for the week (who input this schedule? :).
124youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 02:41 		Trip - that looks like a close match. I can't wait on stat corrections to see if I am still 2-0 this week. interesting that the top6 this week scored all 126 to 128 points.

I have the feeling that I will dominate the regular season again and when the first playoff round is coming I lose by 50 points.
125Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 10:55 		Worst fantasy start I have ever had and I don't see any relief coming soon. I should probably throw in the towel now!

Culpepper - Joke
Suggs - Hurt in preseason
D. Davis - Psssh, HOUSTON!

This week, Davis, Heap, Williams on Bye weeks... Sooo I am looking for 0-6 to start the season :)
126Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 22:34 		Roy- Here's hoping everything works out ok. Staph is nasty but at least we have great new miracle anti biotics now which should do the job.
127deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 12:06 		Thanks guys - I had a PIC line surgically inserted on Thursday and started a 6 week regimen of IV antibiotics that day. It's kinda ugly to look at, but a lot better than the alternatives and at least I'm getting my appetite back. When 2 of my doctors tell me I look "gaunt", I know I'm in trouble - cause I'm a fat boy. lol

Let's play some football!

128Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 23:55 		Roy-Glad to hear the antibiotics were an option. Believe me there are easier ways to lose weight. (Said he embarking on a two week salad and vegetable soup regimen).
129The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 23:32 		If someone had told me before the season that my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th round picks would get me a combined 11.4 points in week 3, I would have figured that a blowout loss would ensue. Good thing my late rounders and WW pickups carried the day and then some.

Still seems too early to me to figure out who the likely playoff contenders are - I don't see anyone out of it yet.
130StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 10:46 		My team looks pretty sad right now. Between Burleson and Lelie at WR, Steven Jackson being very average and Jamal Lewis being terrible, together with a poor TE, and my team is fading fast.
131youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 07:53 		will get interesting this week with 5 players on a bye. I'll try my best but wouldn't be surprised if I lose both games again this week.

after next week (4 byes) I should have enough room to prepare for the 2nd half of the season and get back the games I lost.
132Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 19:47 		0-32 very much possible with my pathetic team...

or whatever number of games our league plays, guess probably more like 0-26?
133The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 21:49 		Looks like you might squeak out a win there YR.
134youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 14:51 		beezer - it looks like I have shot for going 2-0 too. this was the first week I nearly played my optimum lineup. maybe it helped that I only had 3 choices this week. the only "failure" was a last-minute drop of Eric Parker for a starting and punt-returning Az-Zahir Hakim who only produced 13 return yards.
135Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:01 		Looks like the top pack has begun separation, as it appears the top 6 teams will all go 2-0 this week.

Perm Dude...you there? He hasn't checked in since last Tuesday and fielded a team this week with 4 Bye week players in the starting lineup.
136The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:16 		What good is live scoring if it says you won both games Monday morning and you come home to 0-2? That is exasperating!
137loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 16:27 		My roster move,starting Delhomme instead of Favre, cost me 2 wins. For that stupidity my opponents should send me a thank you note. The NY Titans aka NY Jets have a long history of moves such as this, especially in the draft( see Richard Todd, etc.). Thus the change in team name to the NJ Giants; the Giants do play in the swamps of NJ. Perhaps my karma will also change.
L'Shana Tova to anyone who celebrates.-l
138youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 16:52 		loki - thank you, maybe you have more luck in our 2nd meeting in week 10.
139Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 12:37 		Trip,

Just checking in--tried to make a pickup but I'm getting an "access denied" message. Are pickups not allowed anymore this week?
140Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 13:16 		I can't replicate the error. I was able to add a player.
141Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 14:37 		Tried again and again, and was finally able to make the move after loging out and then in again.
142youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:44 		re 102: wahooo!!! I am back in business, baby! the NFL corrected their tv-contract failure here in Austria/Germany - starting with week 5 I will be able to see 2 Sunday afternoon games per week

anyone interested in Michael Bennett? I know he is the #99 back in Minnesota, but with the trade rumors out of Arizona popping up every week he might be worth a bit more soon. I may take a WR that is usable as a #2 or #3 on my team. if I get no offer he may hit waivers soon and then you have to use a (costly) waiver pick on him.
143StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 17:34 		I thought waivers were still reset at the end of each week based on current standings? Another 2 weeks I thought before it went to not being reset.
144youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:04 		question: what is meant with "after week 6 waivers are not reset"?
for me: after this weeks games waivers will be reset the last time, because when waivers may reset the next time (10/18) it is already after week 6.
145StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:10 		This from post 130 in the RIFC thread

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 12:08 Free agent claims have now been processed for the 4th week. Remember that we will only reset weekly priorities for two more weeks. After that, claim priorities will only adjust as claims (free agent or wiaver) are processed, with the claiming team moving to the bottom of the list.
146youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:38 		2 more weeks it is. doesn't really matter for me as long as I stay near the top of the standings.
147Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 23:53 		There have only been 3 or 4 teams who make a claim every week. I have been pretty wreckless so far but plan on calming down when the week-to-week waiver wire status staus doesn't reset every week. Hopefully the rest of the teams will take the 2 minutes of thought that making the waiver/free agent claims process requires.

Perm Dude...please activate your kicker.
148youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 19:24 		0-2 this week. my whole offense sucked today.

guess who is the top-performer on my team this week? my QB, my RB, my WR, my TE, my K, my D, my LB, my DB - no. it was my Jason Taylor my DL and he has over 50 percent more points then my 2nd best player (DB Nate Clements). only 1 TD scored (Stephen Davis, who added an amazing 40 yards) is very poor for a fantasy team.

I can't wait to have Holmes, LJ, Horn, Jackson and Shockey back on my team. that would be a top starting lineup every week, if healthy and not on a bye.
149Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 13:25 		Bags with LT, kicker Reed, and DB Kiel to go against only McCardell and only a 20 point lead to overcome it is most likely you will catch and surpass me tonight but I am happy even at 8-2 with Manning as disappointing as he has been. Actually I have been playing the wrong Manning most weeks LOL.
150youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 14:59 		just what I needed, my #1 QB (McNabb) is on his bye and my #2 (BigBen) is questionable and may not play this week.
151Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 20:11 		Youngroman- you had better hope that Bigben returns. I saw the Eagles Sunday and McNabb looks to be minute to minute not week to week with his sports hernia which by the way really isn't a hernia at all but a tearing of the abdominal muscles away from the pubic bone. I am amazed that he can play at all with that condition and while playing on it may not cause any more permanent damage because he already must have it operated on eventually that doesn't mean that playing on it won't cause more of the ab muscles to tear away from the bone. i.e. it can get(and appears to be getting) a lot worse w/o causing anymore permanent damage.
152Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 22:33 		I have a very interesting decison to make this week in my matchups with Roy (Deepsnapper) and Trip- Which Manning do I start? and if as I am leaning do I split my ticket who faces Eli and who faces Peyton? Trip is 7-3 one game behind me and Roy is 6-4 two games back. Roy has his top 2 WR out while Trip is at full strength with a J.Jones issue pending. Absolutely amazing that I even face this connundrum. With my top (and only RB) on bye I would be very happy for a split.
153Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2005, 01:49 		Trip....offered you a trade..let me know
154Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2005, 09:09 		Accepted. I will process tomorrow, assuming there are no objections.

Slowhand is offering:
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB Marshall Faulk, STL


To receive from Sunday Trippers:
QB Joey Harrington, DET
RB Antowain Smith, NO
155Valkyrie
      Leader
      ID: 47042413
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2005, 21:17 		Looks like a very good deal for Trip to me but I have too much respect for grandpa Slowhand not to look for the "hidden" equalizing value. I know that McAlister just went down and that A. Smith is a starting RB even if just picked up off waivers (irrelevant) but Haselbeck will be Trip's starting QB and in my mind somewhere between a top 6 and 10 QB (and some would say should have been Slowhand's over Bledsoe too). Harrington is pretty worthless, will probably lose his job in 3 or 4 weeks when Garcia comes back. Not sure A. Smith worth that much more than Faulk to justify the QB cost. All that said I wouldn't veto the trade even if it is to the first place team (after this week LOL) but only because of the respect I have for Slowhand.
156StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 16:53 		Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 12:29 We have just passed our 6th reset for F/A and waiver claim priorities, so the only changes from this point forward will be to move teams to the end of the list as F/A claims or waivers are processed. Therefore, I just reset the claim and waiver priority rules to "Commissioner sets manually".

Now I just need to remember to keep these in synch from week to week. Once F/A claims are processed, I copy over the resulting priority rankings to the waiver list. Once waiver claims are done for the week, I must copy over the resulting priorities to the next week's F/A claim list.
157Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 12:58 		I have synched up the priority rankings already for this week (as I have done in weeks prior). The changes to the rules have been adjusted as well.
158Valkyrie
      ID: 309411623
      Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:50 		Thanks St L and Trip.
159Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 08:18 		It is a miracle!

Not 1....
But 2 wins this week....
Under the leadership of Culpepper even!
160youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 11:46 		Promize - and one of those 2 was against me. your IDPs were the difference this week.
161Promize
      ID: 26952515
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 17:06 		Considering I went in with 1 win, I will take the wins anyway I can get them... IDP's, Culpepper, whoever.. I'm working with 1 rb all year.
162Pancho Villa
      ID: 57582616
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 23:00 		I must have spaced out hitting process on my Team 2 the other day. Not that I would have beaten Valkrie anyway, but at least I would have had a full roster.
163The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 23:08 		Well, even the possibility of going 1-1 with the second highest score this week doesn't put much of a damper on my past few weeks. Barring some improbable circumstances I should have the top point total in the league after this week, even though I'll likely be tied for sixth in the standings.

It seems like every two weeks another team gets hot and looks unstoppable for a while. Very competitive so far!
164StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Nov 07, 2005, 11:02 		Easy for you to say. You're not relying on Jamal Lewis as your starting RB each week!
165youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 19:10 		bye, bye Priest. thank god I also got LJ. if Duce and Bennett are starting this week I still have 4 starters on my team. what a luxury problem.

next in line for a IR-trip is McNabb. I can only hope that BigBen is healthy if that happens.
166 culdeus
      ID: 109401920
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 09:15 		Can someone send me a link to your league's webpage.

tia
167Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:53
Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Valkyrie 13 13 5 0 0.722 2117.88 117.66 1825.28 L2 181.08
Deepsnapper 12 6 0 0.667 2090.24 116.12 2001.32 W3 195.24
youngroman's Luschen 12 6 0 0.667 2127.64 118.2 2017.42 W4 288.92
Wasatch Frontrunners 11 7 0 0.611 2021 112.28 1902.38 L2 176.18
Crazy 88s 10 8 0 0.556 2183.96 121.33 2022.06 W1 260.64
Slowhand 10 8 0 0.556 2066.36 114.8 1940.18 L1 215.76
Sunday Trippers 10 8 0 0.556 1927.2 107.07 1960.82 W2 190.52
CowboysHomer 9 9 0 0.5 2079.86 115.55 1918.9 L6 187.64
The fighting Jed Clampetts 8 10 0 0.444 1971.76 109.54 1917.84 W1 153.4
Coldwater Coyotes 8 10 0 0.444 1820.48 101.14 1935.74 W4 233.4
The Fightin' Amish 7 11 0 0.389 1811.12 100.62 2092.94 W2 216.8
Stl Cards 7 11 0 0.389 1867.8 103.77 1912.82 L2 171.6
New Jersey Giants 6 12 0 0.333 1966.76 109.26 2053.96 L1 180.56
Promize 3 15 0 0.167 1545.34 85.85 2095.74 L4 129.2
168Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:54 		Culdeus -
I assume that is what you are looking for. Unless you are in our league, you wouldn't be able to see anything.
169wolfer
      ID: 191043113
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:42 		Does anyone want to make a deal?
170StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 09:11 		I would entertain offers, what team are you and what are you looking for?
171wolfer
      Sustainer
      ID: 18639422
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 11:01 		Fighting Jed Clampetts and looking for WR/RB.
172culdeus
      ID: 516121713
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 19:12 		hmmm, can't see the league site This isn't going to make things easy.
173StLCards
      ID: 371044221
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 21:23 		RB and WR. hmm, sounds like what I need too, LOL. I am certainly interested in Alexander and Johnson ;)

Feel free to make me any offers. Anybody on my team is available in either straight up trades or 2 for 1's etc. Any trade will have to help me though. I may be near last, but still trying just as you are ;)
174deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 12:20 		Looks like Terrell has bit me on the tookus unless the NFLPA finds a way to free him (which I doubt). They may find a way to free up some of his money, but he's on their bench the rest of the year in all likelyhood (and mine lol).

Philly at least may regain their sanity in the locker room.
175loki
      ID: 10105222
      Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 18:06 		Name changed to The NY Zephyrs since hope for my team will be found only in the Twilight Zone. Anyone recognizing this reference is dating him/herself.
176wolfer
      ID: 191043113
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 12:37 		If Franks scores a touchdown tonight, I'll breathe a lot easier this weekend.
177Valkyrie
      ID: 61001617
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 15:04 		Trip- it doesn't get any closer than that.
If my .4 lead holds up I only need to go 2-2 the last two weeks to clinch the #1 seed.
178youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 15:35 		wolfer - that is a tough game. I can only hope that MIN fails to score the TDs today. Larry Johnson carried my team this week, but one outstanding performance isn't enough to win.

short draft recap:
1 Priest - out for season
2 McNabb - out for season
3 Horn - missed 4 games
4 Bennett - not starting all season
5 Da Jackson - missed 6 games
6 Shockey - ok, no yardage, but gets the TD
7 La Johnson - very nice with Priest out
8 Muhammad - gets no yardage
9 Staley - missed 8 games
10 Seattle - not great

all that missed games and season ending injuries and I will still be in 2nd place after this week.
179The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 17:52 		Well, one week to go. Top 4 (Valkyrie, YR, deepsnapper, me) have clinched playoff spots. Pancho clinches a spot with a win and Bags will too if he wins both his games. Trip, wolfer, and slowhand can all get a spot on W-L record if the cards fall right.

Every spot in the seedings is up for grabs, so it will be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm trying to hang on to the overall scoring lead but youngroman and Bags are on a roll and will be tough to keep behind me.
180Valkyrie
      ID: 2510202813
      Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 21:26 		Beezer- congrats on a tough victory- i thought manning (I played wrong one by the way as Eli would have beaten you) would pull it out for me but Pitt couldn't give them enough of a game to make them do more than sit on the ball in the 4th Quarter-
Nevertheless I believe I have clinched a spot in the RFCC next year with at least a second place reg season finish(and a 1st round bye in the playoffs) but need a win or a loss by Youngroman to clinch the #1 seed as Youngroman holds the tie breaker over me on h2h total points.
181The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 00:31 		Thanks Valkyrie, thought I had responded earlier but I guess I didn't. It turns out that win was pretty important for me in getting the 3rd seed. Hopefully, that plus the overall point title will be enough to get a promotion to the big table next year if I don't get it done in the playoffs.

Well, the playoffs seems to be pretty well set, unless deepsnapper gets 20+ points from Brian Dawkins or something even more bizarre happens tomorrow night:

1. Valkyrie
2. youngroman
3. Beezer
4. Pancho Villa
5. Bags
6. deepsnapper
7. Slowhand
8. wolfer

Some good matchups here - back midweek for some analysis of the playoff games!
182wolfer
      ID: 191043113
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:14 		If my math is right, I believe that I have a shot of moving up to the seventh seed.
183 culdeus
      ID: 151155423
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:32 		I'd really appreciate a screenshot of your standings tomorrow emailed to me. Any format works. If someone has a dead login id that would be even better.
184The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:43 		You're right wolfer, I'm not sure why I missed that. Looks like you will grab the seventh seed and Slowhand will be eighth.
185Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 09:52
Team Win Loss Tie Pct Points For PF Avg. Pts Against Streak Last PF
Valkyrie 13
20 6 0 0.769 3105.66 119.45 2632.8 W3 267.36
youngroman's Luschen 18 8 0 0.692 3194.08 122.85 2814.96 W4 277.84
Crazy 88s 16 10 0 0.615 3224.64 124.02 2919.16 L1 256.28
Wasatch Frontrunners 16 10 0 0.615 2955.08 113.66 2867.66 W2 255.18
CowboysHomer 15 11 0 0.577 3159.46 121.52 2859.38 W6 263.4
Deepsnapper 15 11 0 0.577 3055.2 117.51 2981.68 L3 192.2
The fighting Jed Clampetts 14 12 0 0.538 2929.72 112.68 2809.38 W2 230
Sunday Trippers 14 12 0 0.538 2796.12 107.54 2864.36 W4 218.92
Slowhand 12 14 0 0.462 2907.84 111.84 2933.62 L3 162.48
Stl Cards 10 16 0 0.385 2741.64 105.45 2782.64 W1 224.64
Coldwater Coyotes 10 16 0 0.385 2723.64 104.76 2881.56 L4 225.92
New York Zephyrs 8 18 0 0.308 2699.84 103.84 3073.58 L2 155.52
Promize 7 19 0 0.269 2448.86 94.19 3017.18 L2 211.72
The Fightin' Amish 7 19 0 0.269 2581.8 99.3 3085.62 L8 225.08
186Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:07 		Final Standings posted above.

Playoff Seeding -
1 - Valkyrie13
2 - Youngroman
3 - Crazy 88s
4 - Wasatch Frontrunners
5 - Cowboys Homer
6 - Deepsnapper
7 - The fighting Jed Clampetts
8 - Slowhand

Congrats to Valkyrie for a great season.
Honorable mention goes to Pancho Villa (Wasatch Frontrunners) for the points title.

I will wait to see what the RIFC does before setting up the playoff brackets.
187Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 11:08 		Brackets have been set on the league page.

I was not sure if they were going to use the alternative bracket selection where teams select their opponents each week. RIFC is doing a mock playoff bracket which does allow this, but it is not the official bracket. Unless there is significant support for a mock bracket, I will not be implementing this.
188Valkyrie
      ID: 2510202813
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:34 		Trip- you have disqualified yourself from the 8th seed? How did that work- I assume you are in both AAA leagues but chose the other league as primary??
189GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 15:13 		Remember that the 7th and 8th seeds are driven strictly by points for.
Slowhand had just short of 110 point advantage.

Cliff
190culdeus
      ID: 151155423
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:57 		Can I get an ID of playoff seeds by handle name

tia
191Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 09:25 		Playoff Seeding - (Handle)
1 - Valkyrie13 (Valkyrie 13)
2 - Youngroman (Youngroman)
3 - Crazy 88s (Beezer)
4 - Wasatch Frontrunners (Pancho Villa)
5 - Cowboys Homer (Bags)
6 - Deepsnapper (Deepsnapper)
7 - The fighting Jed Clampetts (Wolfer)
8 - Slowhand (Slowhand)
192Valkyrie
      ID: 2510202813
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 11:20 		I want to play the team that has(had) Westbrook- Oh No I can't do that it's my team and he was my only RB. LOL
193wolfer
      ID: 191043113
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:07 		Trip- are we on the honor system for transactions or do we email them to you?
194 Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:26 		Transactions are locked. You will have to e-mail them to me. Sorry, I posted as such on the league site, but did not send an e-mail
195youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 17:54 		Trip - 2 questions

1) my 2nd TE (Kinney) is injured and may be done for the season. if that is the case what are my options:
a) drop Kinney, get a new 2nd TE, play Shockey
b) drop Kinney, get a new 2nd TE, play new TE
c) I can't drop Kinney because I already have a healthy TE in Shockey

2) in addition to the TE-replacement (if the rules allow it) I may also need a DL-replacement because of the injury of Jason Taylor. I may not know until Sunday 4:00pm if he plays or not and may need a last-minute-replacement in that case. how would such a situation be handled.

Thanks to all for a great season.
196Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 18:09 		1) C - I would think you are stuck with Kinney since you already have a healthy tight-end. If you would like to dispute this decision, I don't have a problem running it by Guru.

2) If I receive an e-mail from you (or any qualifying league member) with what you would like to do , I will process any valid transaction as long as I receive the e-mail before a player's game starts (regardless of when I actually open the e-mail).
197youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 18:20 		I have no problem with 1C, I only wanted to know my options.

you may get an e-mail from me on Sunday.
198The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 18:40 		I would dispute that interpretation. Here's the relevant info (bold is my emphasis):

Specifically, players in the other slots (TE, PK, IDP) may only be replaced if they are designated as questionable or worse on the NFL injury report. This allowance does not apply to any player who was designated questionable or worse for the week 14 game.

Thus, you cannot add or drop a QB, RB, WR, or team Def after the week #14 freeze, period. You can only drop someone else if that player is designated as "Questionable" or lower. If one of those players is dropped, he can only be replaced by a player fulfilling the same position. (IDPs will be considered the same position for this purpose.)

I read that as any TE, K, or IDP that is newly designated questionable or worse may be replaced, whether they are a starter or not. Whether they start or not should not be relevant. Otherwise, a team with a backup DL would be forced to start them if a stud LB went down if they only carry 5 defensive players, for instance.

I think A applies. More importantly, I think Trip is dead-on that we should probably get a ruling on this. My $.02.
199Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 20:05 		1 - I will recant my C answer and go with A. Let me know who you want by posting who you would like to pickup.

2 - Actually, for all transactions after Noon on Wednesday which a manager is qualified to make, post them here if at all possible so that there is no confusion who you want to add. In the rare event that two managers qualify for a drop add before noon on Wednesday, send me an e-mail with your transaction request so that I may process the transaction via the normal waiver wire claim priority.
200Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 23:49 		Processed this evening.

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: FA pickups Wasatch Frontrunners


Drop J Martin QB Rams(Q)
Add C Simms QB Bucs

Drop P Pass RB Pats(Q)
Add A Stecker RB Saints

Thanks
Pancho

The 'or' pickups deleted
201The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 11:48 		Really quick analysis:

Valkyrie vs Slowhand - Even with Westbrook's injury, Valkyrie has two solid RBs in R. Brown and Foster to carry the load this week. Peyton should put up a lot of points since he may not see much more of the field this season, so I think the top seed will take it.

youngroman vs wolfer - I thought off the cuff that YR would be an easy favorite, but then I looked at the matchups. YR has Roeth vs CHI, L. Johnson vs DAL, and Galloway vs CAR, while wolfer has McNair vs HOU, Alexander vs SF, and C. Johnson vs CLE. I'm picking wolfer to pull off the upset.

Beezer vs deepsnapper - With all the players deepsnapper has lost this year, my hats off to him for making the playoffs. However, the loss of depth and QB and WR have him hurting, while my team could have put up 200 points last week and has some very favorable matchups. James, Fitzgerald, and Toomer will have to be huge for deepsnapper to win, but I just don't see it happening in all honesty. But I've been wrong before.

Pancho Villa vs Bags - This matchup hinges on LT2. If he's healthy and produces, I don't know that anyone can stop Bags without a Herculean effort. If he's out, then Pancho has a shot but it will be difficult even then. Bags is my pick here and actually my pick to win the whole shebang.

So what'd I screw up?
202deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 12:54 		Beezer - I more or less feel like I backed into the playoff after all thats happened. Now Mike Brown's out for today's game with the Steelers. At least I had Brian Dawkins on the bench. Hit me again! lol

Good luck today. Go Cowboys!
203wolfer
      Sustainer
      ID: 18639422
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 18:54 		So much for my advantage in the matchups.
204Pancho Villa
      ID: 519522811
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 19:47 		My DB, Ike Taylor, for some reason never gets his live scoring.
Looks like Baggs will need big games from both his Atl defenders tomorrow, which is likely against the Aints.
205youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 20:28 		Pancho Villa - Wes Welker has also no live scoring.

unless something crazy happens I am in the next round. my opponent will be the winner of the monday night shootout between Brooks (deepsnapper) and Vick (beezer).
206The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 21:25 		For some reason it doesn't look like the system is adding in forced fumbles, of which I had 3 today from my IDPs. As best I can tell, I have a 1 point edge going into Brooks vs Vick. I've definitely got the edge but Brooks can put it up on occasion so I'll be on pins and needles.
207wolfer
      ID: 38502920
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 22:41 		No, youngroman, there is no way I can advance. At least I can say that I made the playoffs, which is a big improvement from last year.
208Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 11:33 		Playoff week 1 results:

Championship


Week 14 - Round 1
138.56 Valkyrie 13
122.38 Slowhand
102.62 CowboysHomer
121.94 Wasatch Frontrunners
163.74 Crazy 88s
144.86 Deepsnapper
75.62 The fighting Jed Clampetts
123.82 youngroman's Luschen
Week 15 - Round 2
Valkyrie 13
Wasatch Frontrunners
Crazy 88s
youngroman's Luschen
Week 16 - Finals
RIFC AAA
Winner
1-4 seeds advance in AAA. Deepsnapper catches a tough break as the second highest scorer losing to the highest scorer. I will need to wait until I get home this evening, and maybe even later in the week to set up the to allow eliminated teams to participate in the cross-scoring championship.
209The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Dec 16, 2005, 20:15 		Semi-finals outlook:

#1 Valkyrie vs #4 Pancho Villa:

Split regular season 1-1; Valkyrie 8-6 edge if they had played every week.

This game is truly a battle of M*A*S*H units as the players that won't be playing would make an excellent team if they were healthy: Bulger, Westbrook, C. Martin, Ray Lewis, and A. Pierce are out while 8 others are on the injury report in some form.

Pancho needs Gates and Rudi to go off huge to have a realistic chance to win and it would help him if the Colts back off some and Peyton is merely mortal. I think Valkyrie will have someone step up (Jimmy Smith or Ronnie Brown would be my pick) and put up a good score to carry him into the finals.

#2 youngroman vs #3 Beezer:

youngroman won regular season 2-0; Beezer 8-6 edge if they had played every week.

The two highest-scoring teams in the league face off in the other semifinal and show no signs of slowing down, with each team scoring at least 110 points each of the last 8 weeks. IDPs have been a strength for both teams as they carry a combined 8 players at the top 6 of their position.

YR needs another big game from LJ as well as Galloway and Shockey to come through because he's got a lot of questionable guys that are forcing him into some tough decisions at RB and WR. I'm taking a calculated risk by benching Vick and starting Garrard which should pay off but you just never know.

Since YR knocked me out of a playoff spot in the auction league revenge would be nice. The averages favor me and so do the projections I've looked at, but youngroman could easily take this game. I'm too scared to pick this one so I'm hoping for the best as this one will be a barnburner - 150 might not be enough to win this one.
210youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 06:58 		injuries affected my team a lot this season, especially as of late:

QB:
- BigBen probable, may not play the whole game against MIN, may be forced to throw a lot with a hot MIN-offense, so he could produce decent numbers.
- Losman questionable which resulted Holcomb starting
- Garcia still sucks, I knew that BigBen and Losman are injury risks so I needed a 3rd starting QB, now it isn't even given that Garcia starts

RB:
- LJ is a must play.
- Stephen Davis is the backup (if he plays this week)
- Ducy Staley may be inactive for another week
- Shawn Bryson should split carries with Pinnter while Kevin Jones is out
- BJ Sams is the return guy in BAL and should be good for 5pts every week.

WR:
- Galloway is a must play.
- Wes Welker got injured this week and may not see that much playing time on offense, so his role may be limited.
- Joe Horn got worse from week to week, playing against a tough CAR defense
- Reggie Brown is an unsure play with McMahon starting
- Darrell Jackson may be starting but will be eased back after his long injury.

TE: Shockey
K: Edinger
D: Dolphins
DL: Jason Taylor
LB: Mike Peterson, London Fletcher
DB: Justin Miller

if you look at this team you start wondering how was I able to reach the 2nd round of our playoffs. I'm not feeling good going into this weekend and would be really suprised if I advance to the championship game.
211The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Dec 19, 2005, 17:46 		Well, it doesn't get much closer than that. I went into last night's game needing a point from Charles Tillman to win, but Vick was having such an awful game that Tillman hadn't put anything on the stat sheet as of halftime. Fortunately for me he deflected a pass in the third quarter then recorded 2 tackles in the fourth to get me a very narrow win. Great game YR as injuries made the difference in this one IMO. It's a good thing I'm not superstitious or I might start flooding my house every year when the FF playoffs start.

It looks like the other game is still not settled, with Valkyrie carrying a 5 point lead and Ed Reed into tonight against Derrick Mason. Should be interesting to watch.
212youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Mon, Dec 19, 2005, 18:55 		congrats beezer, you got your revenge. for a few hours this morning I thought that I could have won because when I looked at the scoring at 3am I was ahead by 1.96 pts, a few hours later I was back by 2.04 pts. I even had a few more points after the MIA game, but they reduced the sack total of Jason Taylor to 3 and that sack and fumble recovered total of the MIA defense too.
I am still hoping for an official scoring change, but I think that chance is below 1 percent.
good luck in the championship game, I'll try to win the auction-league next week.
213Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 12:10

Championship


Week 14 - Round 1
138.56 Valkyrie 13
122.38 Slowhand
102.62 CowboysHomer
121.94 Wasatch Frontrunners
163.74 Crazy 88s
144.86 Deepsnapper
75.62 The fighting Jed Clampetts
123.82 youngroman's Luschen
Week 15 - Round 2
106.44 Valkyrie 13
102.82 Wasatch Frontrunners
121.34 Crazy 88s
119.30 youngroman's Luschen
Week 16 - Finals
Valkyrie 13  
 RIFC AAA
 Winner
Crazy 88s  
214Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 12:15 		Week 15 Points for RIFC X-league Championship

106.44 - Valkyrie13 (Valkyrie 13)
119.30 - Youngroman (Youngroman)
121.34 - Crazy 88s (Beezer)
102.82 - Wasatch Frontrunners (Pancho Villa)
124.26 - Cowboys Homer (Bags)
109.80 - Deepsnapper (Deepsnapper)
128.70 - The fighting Jed Clampetts (Wolfer)
68.42 - Slowhand (Slowhand)
215Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 12:16 		Well Beezer- this is it- Not many decisions to make on my part- just hoping R. Brown can play at all and selecting which Manning gives me a better chance this week- Peyton in light of the Dungee issue or Eli in cold DC against a good D. I guess I must hope my old retread WR's McCardell, J. Smith and Glenn can out score your WR's and pull it off one more time.
My LB's are shot (Pierce and Lewis gone), my RB's decimated (Westbrook gone, Brown and Perry hurt), Foster lapping the lager, but somehow we have hung in there all year and I expect that a Manning will lead us to victory again.
Good luck, congrats on getting here, it has been a fun fantasy year. (As a devout NYG fan I will still be rooting for the Tikiman despite the points he scores for you.)
216Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Dec 24, 2005, 22:12 		Congratulations Beezer. Nice run Valkyrie, it looks like your team hit the wall, but it appears a lot of teams did this week, it will be interesting to see how many teams do outscore Beezer this week.

The toilet bowl is still up in the air.

Thanks to all for keeping this league active throughout the year - good luck next year to all the RIFC qualifiers, and I look forward to playing with some of you on some level next year. Damn you Randy Moss!
217The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Dec 26, 2005, 19:43 		Thanks guys, I was sweating since I was away from the Internet most of the week and just now got back to check the scores. Valkryie gave me a whale of a game even with all those injuries and players resting. I'm looking forward to next year - it will be weird playing in a league that Trip isn't commishing, and my hats are off to him because both years have been well run and well organized.

Thanks to everyone for keeping the league active top to bottom. I expect we'll see several teams next year out of the 4-14 spots compete for promotion and I'll be pulling for you.
218Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 09:14 		Congrats Coldwater Coyotes on the Toilet bowl victory.

Week 16 Points for RIFC X-league Championship

93.86 - Valkyrie13 (Valkyrie 13)
124.60 - Youngroman (Youngroman)
139.26 - Crazy 88s (Beezer)
115.72 - Wasatch Frontrunners (Pancho Villa)
115.34 - Cowboys Homer (Bags)
99.50 - Deepsnapper (Deepsnapper)
132.76 - The fighting Jed Clampetts (Wolfer)
78.46 - Slowhand (Slowhand)

219youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 14:37 		congratulations Beezer. well earned victory in the last few weeks (best score in all 3 playoff weeks). All the best in RIFC next year. maybe we'll see each other there.
220deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 13:26 		Great games when it counted Beezer . Best of luck next season in the RIFC. Happy New Year too!
221Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 13:46 		Don't know what happened to my congrats post that I thought I made last Tuesday but congrats Beezer- a well deserved and dominating victory. We will meet in the RIFC next year and hopefully my team will be better prepared for you next time.
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