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0 Subject: Ultimate Football Challenge III (3)

Posted by: Pappa
- [235482312] Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:53

Let the games begin...
1culdeus
      ID: 6722322
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 18:40
I'm going to start a separate thread for my draft grades and things. It's going to be a series of posts so if I get caught in the middle don't go and post schtick in between things.

I'm going to be out this evening at the gdb cowboy preseason game. I'll probably load it all in in the morning.
2BoNkA
      ID: 34850122
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 23:50
Looking forward to it.
3culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 07:55
Gonna have to wait I'm taking mass transit this morning so I need to leave earlier than normal.

~6pm CST
4culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 08:17
here ya go

It'll take me awhile to get the dominator charts right so go ahead and just chew on this for now. I'll put in the other stuff later today.
5BoNkA
      ID: 482227
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 08:22
Yes, knock my IDPs when the remaining LBs were "drop material" when I was looking at them. Doesn't really matter, there's always depth at IDP off of waivers throughout the season.
6BoNkA
      ID: 46744319
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 10:15
How are the waivers working again? I forget from last year. Do we reset the priority list every week or does it carry over?
7Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:54
Waivers are not reset each week. They carry over. Make a waiver claim and you drop down to the bottom, etc.
8Tree
      ID: 36821218
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 20:33
waivers are run when? and then when do we have a free agent period?
9Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 11:00
WAIVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Preseason waivers will have to be done manually by me. I'll do them this sunday night at 8pm cdt. You can submit them to ufcwaivers@gmail.com. It will be done the same way as last year. This is being done in case any player goes down in the last preseason games.

After that FA will begin until the regular season start. During the regular season waivers will be handled through ESPN.
10leggestand
      ID: 17744278
      Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 20:11
Back in town fellas. Thanks for getting my picks in and I will be getting caught up with everything I missed shortly.
11Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:29
Free agents will start at 9 pm cdt sunday night.
12culdeus
      ID: 516121713
      Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 08:44
Just curious if you had to project where players would get redrafted in the first two rounds what would be your biggest objection to this list? (non keeper)

LT
SA
Edge
Holmes
Peyton
McAllister
Kevin Jones
Julius Jones
McGahee
1.10 DDavis
2.1 Culpepper
Westbrook
Portis
Barber
Jackson
Moss
Rudi
Dillon
Green
2.10 Holt


13Promize
      ID: 484157
      Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 09:53
Well not exactly sure what your asking, and not sure you care about my opinion anyways..

But I would of had McGahee and McAllister above Peyton and not sure I would of seen D. Jackson or T. Green in the second round.
14leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 09:59
I think it is Ahman Green and Steven Jackson, Promize (or did you do that on purpose?) :)

As for me, I think Rudi Johnson and Dillon slid too far down. They should be up above Westbrook (and so should Portis).
15Promize
      ID: 484157
      Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 12:37
Blah, you probably right Legges... :sigh: Wasn't thinking, didn't get to sleep till about 3:30am last night and was up early...

LOL There yah go Culd, you can feed off my mistake :)
16culdeus
      ID: 516121713
      Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 17:22
Well I was feeding off the ppr/2 and start 2QB tendencies. With that Westbrook should easily beat out those guys. Not sure what I was thinking with Green it was early this morning. Anyway I draft 7th in a ufc clone league tonight for $$.
17culdeus
      ID: 516121713
      Wed, Sep 07, 2005, 08:44
Draft Results for my ufc clone league

I ended up with Edge/Deuce/Barber as 1,2,3 RBs. So I'd say I came out alright. I had the 7th pick.
18Promize
      ID: 484157
      Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 12:21
Alright gents, good luck this season... Hopefully I can defend the title, but will see.
19Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 15:57
Good luck guys. I'm sure it will be another interesting season.
20Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 13:36
Page Unavailable

ESPN.com Fantasy Football is experiencing technical difficulties. We are aware of the issue and working diligently to fix it. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience.


so, is it too late to change. thus far, ESPN is beyond terrible...
21peloton
      ID: 348131215
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:04
I'm pretty sure I won my game, but it would be nice to see it for myself.

If it's possible to change I vote yes.
22Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:32
Someone donate the money I spent on their little add on program and I won't have a problem changing at all... But at this point, this cat is unemployed!
23Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:49
Since add ons have been purchased I think we're here to stay. i don't want to pay someone so we can go to yahoo or something else. espn will get their stuff figured out. if someone wants to pay promizes bill, i'd change.
24Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:51
Promize, can you do us all a favor and email ESPN to see if they will refund your money because you are not pleased with the service and would like to move.

That is the only way that it would probably work out.
25Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 15:18
I finally got into espn. hopefully the rest of you can as well.
26Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 15:27
La la la... on hold waiting... but I think we all know what the answer is gonna be on this.. :(
27Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 15:30
Welp sent email instead, seems the other 100000 people are calling in right now also.
28Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 17:38
ESPN.com Fantasy Football Rosters Updating

ESPN.com is working hard to optimize your Fantasy Football experience. We are currently updating rosters and standings for your league. You will be able to access your league after the update process is complete. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience.


um. so why can't i access the league while this is going on?

four hours later, and i still can't check my team. good job ESPN.
29Tree
      ID: 55851318
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 19:08
and now this...

A Message from ESPN.com

Dear Fantasy Football Fan,

I want to let you know that everyone at ESPN.com shares your frustration with the early season technical problems with our Fantasy Football application. I appreciate very much that you have chosen to play Fantasy Football with us and we value our relationship with you - fan to fan. I want to apologize to you for the problems we've had and assure you that we are doing everything in our power to solve them and provide an experience that the best, most passionate sports fans on the Web deserve.

Our aim is to have our Fantasy Football application operating normally for this Sunday's games. We will be updating you on our progress and resolution.

Again we appreciate that you are playing Fantasy Football with us and we will do everything possible to make this a terrific experience for you this season.

Sincerely,
John Kosner
Senior Vice President and General Manager


this really does not bode well. i mean, i would think the goal would be to have the operating by sunday's games - duh.

i realize some people here paid for ESPN special features. i'd like to second the notion that you ask for your money back.

i'm not trying to be callous, but i would hate to think we lost an entire season because we were gun shy on moving.

i think moving, and making the decision to do so, needs to come quickly...
30Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 19:17
Already did ask, but you can see the answer they are sending out to people... Why didnt' we all just stay at Yahoo in the first place? It worked fine for us last year... I'm just as frustrated, if you all want to kick in the money I will be losing ... Then move... But the league voted on this site...
31Tree
      ID: 55851318
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 19:30
the league voted on this site. absolutely.

so what happens when sunday rolls around, and there is no ESPN games?

i think it's crucial for us to be pro-active, and not reactive.
32BoNkA
      ID: 578591318
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 20:00
Well I know I never voted on ESPN, was never contacted about it. I would have rather stayed with yahoo. We might have to start a yahoo league and get everything put in just incase espn decides to not work the entire week. If it really did take til Sunday to get up and running, what happens to waivers and FAs during the week? We don't even know who won the games...

Not happy about this.
33Tree
      ID: 55851318
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 20:14
we also did get AOL set up, did we not?
34Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 20:35
AOL is just as bad... It barely ran over the weekend.. And no teams are up .. just checked...
35Tree
      ID: 238101320
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 21:13
the point is, i think we need to have something set up just in case we can't go with ESPN by thursday.

quite frankly, not being able to make trades/claims during the week means that the game doesn't work. having it ready to go by Sunday isn't good enough.

i feel bad for the people who spent money if ESPN doesn't offer a refund. but to throw away a whole season for those few people is foolhardy...
36culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 21:58
FBG posters are saying if you call and ask they will give you your edge money back and also give you insider for free for a year too. I'm all for moving to a real site like rtsports and paying 10 bucks a pop to do it.

The other option is upgrading the yahoo site as they will let you run waivers there.
37Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 23:02
Thanks Culdeus, I will call tommorow I guess again early morning...
38culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 23:22

(888) 549-ESPN (3776)
39Tree
      ID: 882146
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 07:07
right now, things seem to be working. let's see if it lasts more than a day...
40Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 09:39
Ok, do what you all want :) Got my credit... As well as got to keep the service for free... Backup system is ok, they claim everything will be ok by Sunday... But you know how that is.

41Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 09:43
Message from ESPN

Waiver Notice


Waiver claims will be processed Thursday September 15th at 3:00 AM ET. This extension will give all players the opportunity to make claims.
42Battles
      ID: 487141815
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 10:59
Well, looks like everyone is free to move now. I checked with Ian and he's fine with it.

Now we have to figure out where to move.

I guess it sounds like the #1 option is back to yahoo. I don't mind doing the waivers manually again if we don't want to upgrade for $125.

Then there is rts, cbs, aol, and mfl (my fantasy league)

Let me here the input.
43Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 12:05
Yahoo is fine....

CBS I have two teams already there and it is fine... about same cost as Yahoo.. Alot of neat functions like History Books, easy to get around on also.

RTS was nice last year, didn't have many problems, but was the scoring included? forgot..

AOL, hell no, hate it already, complicated waiver process, complicated website, no notes, had same problem as ESPN did.

MFL ... never been there.
44peloton
      ID: 348131215
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 12:51
I vote for somewhere that will process waivers. What is the website for this rts that you guys are talking about.

I'll pony up $10 if necessary. It would be nice if we could find a league that supports keepers and keeps the league around year to year.
45Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 12:57
http://www.rtsports.com/
46Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 13:16
i'm gonna cast a vote for Yahoo or AOL.

1. yahoo has traditionally been solid. it lacks the waivers we want, but it's solid.

2. AOL had very minor problems, and they were no where near as bad as ESPN's. the only time i had a problem with AOL was the first time i checked. i'm using AOL for another league, and like it quite a bit.

3. personally, i'd prefer not to go somewhere else. it's why i wasn't keen on ESPN. i don't like having to keep track of that many sites.
47Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 13:32
http://xpertsports.com

here is another one. I talked to these guys before the year about having a league there and they responded in a couple minutes.
48Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 16:49
http://www.rotoworld.com/games/myteams.asp

Was another good one
49culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 17:42
MFL is intersting because they have some side games, but the interface is not that slick. Maybe that's part of the charm I dunno.

Personally I don't see the harm in giving espn a second chance. In reality it didn't affect a thing except the ability to view rosters yesterday. Big deal.

I was able to watch my other espn league live scores most of the day Sunday and that's more than you can say for aol.

Of all the interfaces I've seen espn seems to have the "simpler is better" philosophy down very well. AOL..ssheeeeeshhh I can't figure that out to save my life.
50Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 22:13
Man I agree with you on that Culdeus, you need a Masters Degree in Physics to figure out what button to push or link to go to... It is nuts...

Being with CBS for 5 years now, I really like it a lot.. But ESPN is fine if it stays up live... It isn't to bad.
51Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 14:10
Humm, looks like ESPN lasted for an hour today, now nothing is updating and site extremely slow and getting busy message.
52peloton
      ID: 238491814
      Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 15:49
Holy freaking Culpepper. Apparently I should have started Gus Frerotte instead... He's going to get me -20 easy. Chris Brown has less carries than Travis Henry, and my kicker pulled a hammy. Ugh.
53Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 20:30
Seems our league message board is down, or atleast for me it is.
54Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 10:07
For me too. Ugh.
55Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 10:11
still? this morning??

should we start one on here, and just use this? i, for one, am curious as to what Battles has in mind for trades...
56Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 11:37
I'd just like to see some offers. peyton and s jackson might be hard to pry away, but not impossible.
57Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 11:41
Yah, was curious on what Battles is looking for also...

I will try and remember what I posted...

Lets see

I was bored the other day so figured just for fun I would break down the points so far our teams are doing and do a little grading system via Culdeus.

I was surprised to see that Culdeus predictions are so so, not great, but not bad... So shout to him on that.

I dont' remember a thing about my stastics class, so what I did was take the highest score of that catagory and divided into the other teams scores. Grades based on

90-100 A
80-89 B
70-79 C
60-69 D
59 F

Also broke down on how much each catagory is helping your team total by percentage etc.

I will try to keep this updated each week if I have time, I am hoping to land some sort of job soon! Anything, about to go to McDonalds! What a waste of college time so far...

Fun With Excel
58Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 12:08
There is no way my team can keep performing as bad as they are. I admit that my rb's are suspect. (i'm still working on getting rudi and tiki hurt) There is no way that most of the top players aren't going to return to at least near what they did last year.

To motivate my players, I'm going to guarantee a playodd berth. (GULP)
59culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 13:37
It can't help my average that Battle's players washed up all at once.
60BoNkA
      ID: 358412112
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 13:41
Did waivers go through today? Doesn't seem like it on ESPN. Unless that is tomorrow, I don't remember.
61Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 13:47
Thursday morning it goes through
62Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 14:41
The thursday 3am waiver was the closest to the wed 5pm waiver that we had last year.

63peloton
      ID: 348131215
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 17:16
My entire team is on the trading block. Looking for good young talent for the years ahead. It looks like it will be a rebuilding effort already.
64Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 18:11
tom-

your entire team for manning. deal?


seems even to me.
65Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 18:13
actually i'd have to drop all but 8 of your players, so I don't think it's even anymore.
66Tree
      ID: 408302117
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 18:38
Thursday morning it goes through

so this message on the main page of the league, is an old one?

MESSAGE FROM ESPN
Notice: Waiver claims will be processed by 12:30 PM ET.
67culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 20:18
yes, our league has a bit longer to run waivers than the default which would be today.
68BoNkA
      ID: 17812220
      Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 01:12
Yeah, my team is shot already. At least I'll have better keepers for next year.
69Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 09:51
Battles, you might want to contact ESPN some how. I am in another ESPN league and thier message forum works fine.
70Battles
      ID: 57472522
      Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 10:01
a message has been sent to espn.
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