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0 Subject: RIFC AA - Regular Season #1

Posted by: Smith32
- [139592519] Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 09:00

I'll start a new thread for everyone to talk trash that actually has some basis in reality.

Frick - your "defense" stinks - 85 pts against in one night.
1FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 12:18
Did anyone's live scoring work last night? I tried, but didn't see any scores, actually I still don't see any scores from last nights game.


Smith32, what defense are you talking about?
2Letter_J
      ID: 19813811
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 13:33
Frick, given the ruling at post 28 of http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/foot/4329.shtml?1126289883, are you going to make a similar ruling?
3FRICK
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 13:48
I don't think so. The reason being is that when Ware was selected in our draft he had already been changed to DL, not LB. This was pointed out in one of the threads at the time.

If I'm wrong on this or if any league members feel strongly on this issue let me know.

4Letter_J
      ID: 19813811
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 13:58
It's all good...not trying to stir it up. I just saw this thread and wondered whether it would impact the AA as well.
5Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 15:42
Frick, I don't exactly know what you're saying in post 3.
When I searched in the AOL league list before making my Ware pick, he was listed as a DL. So, I had no reason to think he would be switched to a LB once the season started. Had I known he would be switched to a LB, I would have either spent my 13.04 pick on another, more proven lineman such as Kevin Williams or John Abraham or waited till later to make my DL pick and picked for a different position at that spot.
6FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 15:55
OK stop this you guys, I getting tired of posting I'm an idiot, granted it is my fault, but still.

DaBomb, I apologize, I was thinking of Suggs and confused to the two players.

Guru has ruled in the RIFC that Ware can be used as a DL for the entire season. I'm going to change the setting for the league to allow up to 3 LBs, but his is only for the team that holds Ware, i.e. if DaBomb would trade him.

I'll try to look at the starting rosters, but I'm going to ask each of you to look at your oponent each week and check to make sure that they have a DL starting. If you notice anything let me know.

7Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:29
Thanks Frick I appreciate it. I wasn't originally going to go request this from you, but since I saw Guru's ruling in his league..
8FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:32
For whatever reason I can't access the controls at AOL at the moment. I'll try again when I get home and will post when I have success.

Does anyone else see points from last nights games on their rosters?
9FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:42
OK change made to 0 min DL starters and 3 max LB starters.

This would only apply to the team that has Ware.
10Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:44
Go to results-->live scoring
11Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:46
Apparently every team defense except Oak and NE has played already and has 10 points.
12Nerfherders
      ID: 29849812
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 18:19
I just wanted to say that this may be the only time of the season that I'm leading the league in points. So here's a shout out to the Pats for that one!
13Smith32
      ID: 117461816
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 18:44
Sorry for the confusion. I was just pointing out that Frick's two opponents this week (my team included) put up a total of 85 pts last night. I was not making any reference to his team DEF, his IDPs, or any rules related to any of that, just making a (bad) joke.
14Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 19:53
it feels sooooooooo good to have internet connection again. My computer was sucking and it's a 5 minute walk to the library to get access there. so this feels good to be in action again!
15Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Sat, Sep 10, 2005, 07:27
Re posts 10 and 11, as every team this week (except the Pats and the Raidahs) has yet to give up a point, all start with 10 points for the shutout. It will change if/when points are scored against your defense.
16Greybear
      ID: 47324128
      Sat, Sep 10, 2005, 11:15
Hi to all,

I've been busy with real life and have not had time to respond to Yokel (Re: Post 256, in RIFC AA Discussion).

Overmatched? I haven't looked at your team lately but aren't you starting 2 Colts WR's playing against the Ravens? Wow, what a great tactic. I hope you don't play the market with this intrepid manoeuver of putting all your eggs in one basket.

And your QB (whom overachieved last year) does not scare my Vick at all. Yours can throw but has lost Mush, his favorite receiver, so don't expect miracles.

Sure, you got my goats absolutely spanked at RB, I'll admit that... for now. However you may not be so cocky later on this season when you have to start Bar-Blow because Anderson will have lost his starting job to Tinky. For now, you are in a better position, but we'll just have to see what happens Sunday.

Frick, thanks for all of your work in respect of getting us set up (it must be time consuming).

Wishing you all the best this Sunday,
GB
17Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 19:48
Daunte... I am soo disappointed. I could have very easily gone 2-0 this week if Daunte had thrown a TD, or maybe not thrown 3 INTs. At least some other players picked up the slack. Now let's hope Dallas Clark plays and maybe gets 3-4 catches for 60 yards and a TD. Then i will have a comfortable margin going into Monday. Cause i know Vick and Trotter won't get 25+ points. Thank you Greybear for the first win of the season.
18Greybear
      ID: 47324128
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 20:02
Dearest Kyle,

Thank whomever persuaded you to take Fast Willy off their hands, as you are being bailed out by a player you didn't even want. I know it does not matter but it doesn't say much of your draft skills either.

I don't have live scoring, but I imagine you are whipping my goats' bedonkeydonks. My team is sucking moose-cock right now, and, at least I am mature enough to admit it... damn, I am as frustrated as Hellen Kellar at a piniata party!

My only joyful moments have been Karlos Dansby's performance and seeing Mike Anderson go 4 for 5... what do you have to say about that Yokel?

Well, I hope the weeks to come bring better luck to the doomed goats, and Kyle, make no mistake, someone somewhere will dislodge that horseshoe from your ass!
19Greybear
      ID: 47324128
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 21:36
Hey Kyle,

No Dallas sighting... maybe thanking me before the week is over is not such a good idea.
20Nerfherders
      ID: 29849812
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 22:00
Perhaps I missed it in the rules, but are we supposed to be playing two teams at the same time? I've never seen this before. Will this be happening every week?
21Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 6742221
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 22:54
Yeah, looks like Anderson got hurt early. I might be hurting too at RB as a result.. I need another TD from Marvin or Reggie to at least get a split this week.
22Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 23:28
Not hurt as bad as Javon... Can't they make a rule so that the top 10 WR be two hand touched instead of tackled for the sake of their fantasy owners?

Is the waiver priority shown on the league cite, or do we keep track of it manually?

Nerf, we play two different teams each week.
23 Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 00:44
P.S. If anyone is looking for a RB I have Foster, William Green, and kick/punt return extraordinaire BJ Sams (who had more points last year than Duckett).
24FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 08:58
Nerf, yes we play two teams each week, this way you get to play every team in the league twice.

DaBomb, the waivers should be up and running on the site, you might not be able to make a claim until after tonights games are over/tomorrow morning.

The way the waiver wire should be set up is everyone can make their claims and they will be processed around noon on Wednesday, after that all unclaimed players become FAs and can be picked up by anyone. Since I have probably managed to 0-2 this week and one of the lowest scores I should have a good waiver position, sigh.

25Da Bomb
      ID: 30811128
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 09:11
Does the waiver priority reset each week based on standings or remain constant like in a yahoo league?
26FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 09:51
It resets each week, for the first 6 weeks. After that priorities do not reset weekly.

I beleive that is how the RIFC is doing it.

27Smith32
      Donor
      ID: 139592519
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 10:47
Regarding Parker....

Kyle - Merry Christmas.

Whoever played Kyle - Sorry.

If it makes anyone feel any better, I traded away Derrek Lee in mid-May in what I thought was a "sell-high" transaction given that he had never driven in 100 runs. So, decide who you want to have a breakout performance, and trade me for them, it works every time.
28Greybear
      ID: 25743129
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 15:29
Smith 32,

I accept your apology (Re: Post #27). However, if I keep my fingers crossed maybe Vick can get me 16 points and Trotter 10, which would put me on top.

It's kind of hard to root for both of them though, as one doing well will mean the other doing not so well. All in all, I have learned that it's not over 'till it's over.

Also, I can't say that I really drafted for week one only, so I'll have to see what the rest of the season brings. (I already have a mess in Denver... I hate the rat-faced bastard).
29Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 16:15
If I go 2-0 this week 2 things have to happen.
1. Mike Vick has a typical preformance against the Eagles, therefore holding Greybear to hoping Trotter can make up the majority of points.
2. Javon Kearse has only 1 tackle. Or he has a reoccuring foot injury? Or maybe TO thinks he can play better DE and decides to try that out and bumps "The Freak" asside.
IF (and that's a big if) I do go 2-0 the game ball for my team will have to go to Matt Stover. Thank you so much for missing those 3 FGs. If only he lost points like they reported for missed FGs.
30FRICK
      ID: 3410101718
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 20:32
Sorry Greybear, ABC just announced that Trotter was tossed from the game due to the melee before the game.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!
31Smith32
      ID: 117461816
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 22:13
I thought for sure Frick was just messing with Greybear about Trotter getting tossed, and then I turned on MNF and saw that it was indeed true. Unbelievable:)
32Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 22:45
Congrats to JTSerb for getting 2 tackles needed to win by the end of the first half. Now let's hope Vick doesn't run any more...
Come on split the week!
33FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:26
Posted by Guru in the RIFC thread

Free agent claims are processed at noon Wednesday, so you must submit any claims before then.

To submit a claim, go to the "Claims" link under the Transaction menu. You can submit multiple requests, and you can prioritize them, and you can rank order each claim. Hopefully, the instructions at the site are self explanatory.

Do not use the "Waiver Wire" link for this weekly free agent claiming process. The only players who go on waivers are dropped players. Although the mechanics of the free agent claiming process are similar to waivers, these players are technically not on waivers, and you can be easily confused if you do not remember that distinction.

Commissioners - if you are using Fanball or a related system, be aware that the claim priority lists for free agent claims and for waivers are not automatically synchronized. If a team is awarded a free agent claim, he moves to the back of that priority list, but his waiver priority is not correspondingly reordered. However, we want both claim priority lists to be in synch. Therefore, after free agent claims are processed on Wednesday, you will need to adjust the waiver priority list to correspond to the adjusted priorities coiming out of the free agent claiming process. It's a simple exercise, but one that you need to remember to do weekly. And, when we get to the point of the season that free agent claim priorities are not reset weekly (after week 6), then we'll have to "work backwards" prior to Wednesday each week, copying over the adjusted waiver priorities to the free agent claim priorities (if there have been any waiver claims in the past week).

Fortunately, the free agent claim process occurs only once per week, at noon on Wednesday (or whenever you have specified it to occur). Other than that, the waiver process is the operative one.

Clear as mud?

34FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:27
I'm sure everyone still has questions, I think I do also, but we should be able to make this work.

I just want to warn you now, watch out for my 24-0 finish after the 0-2 start.

35Da Bomb
      ID: 5821139
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:34
AOL doesn't have scores for last night's game. I don't know if any games were affected, but when (if?) AOL inputs the scores, would they take away a win from a team?
36Greybear
      ID: 25743129
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:36
I thought that getting tossed before a game even starts earns you 15 points. I'm sure I read that somewhere... Oh, yes, that's in my retards pool where I play with Shannahan and Martz (I feel like I'm about at their level now, just kill me).
37Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:50
Greybear I agree that Martz is an idiot, but i feel pretty bad when watching Micheal Irvin's playmakers and one of my bench players is in it. To quote him: "Leftwich should be a fantasy starter in all leagues" And now I have to agree with him for once, Daunte and Leftwich have just found them on a QBBC
38FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:53
Don't feel to bad Greybear, in the Serious Biz league my starting 10 players were outscored by 5 guys on the bench, 65 to 56

Needless to say I lost, actually if I could have started all 15 players I would have won, by 1 point.

39russelldl
      ID: 367462917
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:20
frick, my bench very nearly outscored my starters this week as well. I guess the good news is that someone on my squad was scoring.
40Greybear
      ID: 25743129
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 14:57
Losing by less than 4 points when Trotter doesn't even see one flockin' play is still eating away at me... oh, there is also the fact the Mike Brown sat on my bench with 14.5 points. Nevertheless, I should thank my lucky stars as my IDP's carried me this week. It could have been worse given that the rest of my team did SFA.

I have my claims set up, hope it works according to plan. Gotta go take out my frustrations against someone, hopefully not someone that can fire me.
41cressida
      ID: 108242223
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 16:12
Ouch, what a rough way to start the season. Not one player on my team found the endzone, thus leaving me low man on the totem pole. On the bright side, there's nowhere to go but up. Here's hoping to a better second week.
42FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 16:46
Well when looking at the Points Against(PA) I feel slightly better as I had the most points of scored against me to help explain my 0-2 start.
Manager W L T PF PA
Nerfherders 2 0 0 278.12 176.56
Smith32 2 0 0 277.84 234.46
Sandwich Statics 2 0 0 270.92 216.52
Juking Safety 2 0 0 263.84 210.50
ShortBus Stalwarts 1 1 0 252.68 238.82
Da Bombers 1 1 0 250.72 200.36
Chicago Serbs 1 1 0 227.88 248.42
KN321VU 1 1 0 225.92 223.50
Frickin Idiots 0 2 0 216.24 277.98
Vicious Goats 1 1 0 215.86 206.30
OverpaidCrybabiesPunks 1 1 0 205.16 235.36
AAA bound 0 2 0 199.80 228.92
slackjawed yokels 0 2 0 186.68 238.22
Cressida 0 2 0 136.88 272.62
44Letter_J
      ID: 19813811
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 11:09
Frick, if I understand correctly, once waiver claims are awarded at 12:00 p.m. est, all free agents are then available to be picked up. Not included in the free agent pool are those who were just released by their respective fantasy teams (these players will not become free agents until Friday).

IIRC, this is how Fanball worked last year. Is this assessment correct? Thanks.
45FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 12:10
Players go on waivers for 48 hours. So if they were processed in the initial batch at 12:00 noon today, they would then become FA at noon on Friday.

There is a good discussion of the Waivers/FA on the RIFC thread.

46Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 07:56
Frick,

Pursuant to http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/foot/4251.shtml#1123361156 post 192 and in the interests of fairness to all fellow participants, I see that there were 3 official statistic changes from last week's games:

1. Kerry Collins' interception was changed to a fumble and a sack. And Collins' pass attempts were reduced to 39.

2. Matt Hasselbeck had an interception changed to a fumble and a sack. His pass attempts were reduced to 36.

3. Daunte Culpepper had a rush for a loss of 7 yards changed to a sack. Therefore, his rush stats changed from 4 for 12 yards to 3 for 19 yards. A sack was added to the Tampa D.


I'm not certain if Fanball has made these changes or if they are to be made manually.

I note that the RIFC bars changing results of head to head games after Saturday at midnight PST (that said, I don't think that these changes would have affected the outcome of any of our games last week); however, the changes will affect slightly the overall points scored.
47Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 19:50
It might change my game in which i lost by .9 points. Not sure tho.
48FRICK
      ID: 3410101718
      Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 16:54
None of the scoring changes would have changed the final outcomes, although Kyle only would have lost by .3 points.

Per the RIFC a manager has to protest his score if he wants it recalculated. Unfortunately I don't have the time to recalculate the scores each week.

I'm not sure if Culpeppers score would have changed. Don't yards that are lost on a sack count against the quarterbacks total rush yards? So the rushing stats would be 3 for 19, but you need to subtract the 7 yards for the sack, so no net change.
49Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 21:16
damn. so close to a 2-0 week
50Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 23:21
2-2 isn't bad when you face D-nabb. I guess. I HATE DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!
51Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 08:51
Frick i am still kinda confused on how the waivers process is done. It says I can't pick up a free agent until Wednesday at 1 pm ET. Do I just have to have a quick finger to pick up the free agent. And If that's the case then my wavior priority isn't changed, is it?
52FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 08:56
Kyle see the RIFC and the RIFC AAA threads for a more detailed discussion, but I think you want to go to Transactions, Claims, Create/Edit your Claims.

I hope this explains the process somewhat.
53Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 09:15
thanks. I feel fairly confident that A) my player won't be taken during the waivers period and B)I don't have class between 12 and 2 ET so i will be able to get the player i want extremely close to the 1:00 time.
54holt
      ID: 50829194
      Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 21:58
waivers are only for picking up players that are dropped from other teams.
claims are what you use to pick up FA's by the wednesday deadline.
55Frick@Work
      ID: 158492310
      Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 08:59
I am ahead in both of my match-ups at the moment, but could very easily end up losing both of them. It would be great to once again have a top 5 score and go 0-2. Who the #(*$% made this schedule? What an idiot ;


56Nerfherders
      ID: 12511815
      Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 18:40
I'm fairly safe... the biggest battle for me tonight will be Tony Gonzalez +15 vs. Larry Johnson. That could be really close.

I find it interesting that AOL hasnt quite figured out how to get IDP live scoring right on Gameday. The stats for each player arent even close. They arent even in the same ballpark. They had Jason Taylor for 6 tackles and 1 assist when in reality he had 2 tackles and 3 assists, plus a PD. I wonder what their system is actually reading during gameday? At least they get it right by the next day, but it's kinda scary when you wake up on Monday and realize youve lost 7 points and your opponent gained 6 overnight.
57Smith32
      ID: 08292210
      Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 11:21
My Adalius Thomas acquisition is purely based on the fact that I got a pair of tickets to the Jets-Ravens game on Sunday and I want to have some rooting interest. I have about 6 teams of fantasy players, and Todd Heap was the only Raven or Jet I had starting before I got Thomas. Just in case anyone was puzzled by this move.
58Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 11:46
I would guess that there are not to many Raven Jets players on any team other than the Baltimore D and Curtis Martin. I have heard numerous "experts" saying to take the Under on this game, it is 31 I think and I can't say that I disagree with them. Has there ever been a 0-0 tie in a recent game?

Hope you have fun at the game.
59Smith32
      ID: 08292210
      Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 12:00
As a Redskin fan I do remember the 7-7 tie with the Giants a few years ago, complete with Frerotte injuring himself headbutting a padded wall and Westbrook (I think) taking a 15-yd penalty for a helmet toss.

I agree, under 31 total should be safe.
60Smith32
      ID: 08292210
      Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 12:56
Frick - the experts were right - under 31 was the lock of the year. At one point, my friend looked at me and said "why didn't I bet my life savings on the under" and the idea didn't sound that dumb. A. Thomas got a sack, but not much else. It was interesting to have someone to watch while the Jets were on "offense".

Greybear - Haven't heard much smack talk out of you lately. Maybe it's because your vicious goats looked more like docile jackasses this weekend.
61Greybear
      ID: 25743129
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 09:07
Dearest Smith32,

You are hereby cordially invited to shut the f_ck up. No, really, I gotta be able to take it if I dish it out... which I haven't been doing (dishing it out) as I have been busy with things such as work, and I also do some officiating for figure skating which has kept me away for a while.

Anyhow, it sounds like you've missed me, and I understand that if you don't have much else to do in your life, you may want to sit on your couch, eat cheetos, scratch your balls with your keys and press the refresh button to see if anyone wishes to communicate with you.

All in all, I agree with you, the goats fell apart this last weekend... injuries are a killer but these things happen. You should really thank me because the goats' piss poor performance kept you from falling to a ".500" record. You must certainly realize that your 112 points of this weekend is not really much to write home about either, but I guess you have to really celebrate your victories where you find them. Do we meet again later this season? If so, my hopefully healthy goats are looking forward to shoving a pineapple up your ass and spinning it counterclockwise.

Gotta go, but I will attempt to check in later and regale you with tales...
62Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 17:09
Frick,
Other leagues have had issues regarding dropped players/waivers as they are apparently two different categories. See 105, 146-147 in this thread. But in our league rules, I only see a time designation for dropped players, and I don't see waivers listed. So I guess it's OK since I don't see a waivers category. Is there an option for waviers in the rules somewhere though?
63Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 02:33
Nerf, I don't know how many of us are checking this messageboard but I thought I'd say to you, "ouch". I hate to get blown out of games in fantasy football but you lost in the worst possible way, by less than a point in each game. While your record (and possibly team) is superior to mine, that really sucks to lose like that. I wish you well and hope all goes well for you next week. I am glad I don't play you as your team is sure to seek revenge on the next possible opponents.
64Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 10:27
Has anyone had any issues in regards to post 62? I don't want to mess with anything unless it becomes an issue.

I can't get into the league from work, but I hope to post the standings sometime this week.

Can anyone tell where I am as of this week?

65Nerfherders
      ID: 12511815
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 11:42
Heh, I thought I had lost both games by less than a point but apparently I beat Mike so I'm happy with that at least. Coming down to less than 4 yards of offense is tough though.

Besides that, I still have the fewest points against in the league. You have to understand that in all the years of fantasy football I have never had that kind of luck. Typically, if I'm sixth in scoring, I'm usually 3rd or better in points against and 4-6. That's just the way football works for me usually. hehe.
66Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 12:53
Did someone from this league send me an e-mail? If so, could you kindly re-send (it went into my bulk file and I deleted it accidently).
67 Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Sun, Oct 16, 2005, 17:15
No one needs a RB? Foster, Sams, Stecker, anyone?
68Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 09:52
Not only did my Colts win last night bud Edge's 3TD performance and a couple of others let me turn a 45+ point deficit into a 10 point win.

That's more like it.

On a side note I hope to actually field a complete roster at some time soon. I have had 3 weeks in a row now where I had a player not play, 1 was my fault for not moving a bye player, I swear that I did it earlier in the week, and 2 have been game time decisions. Oh well it wouldn't have made a difference in any of the games.

I might possibly interested in Sams, but I need another QB more.
69Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 19:46
Waiver/Claim priority still reset after this week's claiming, correct?
70FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 21:05
If it needs to be reset I'll reset it.
71FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 21:14
Here are the standings as of Week 6. The stats are sorted by Points For, which determines the last 2 teams in. There are 4 teams tied at 7-5 currently so I left out the team with the lowest points, sorry Greybear. The teams in yellow are in by record, the teams in red are in by points.

Team W L T Pct PF PA Strk
Russeldl 10 2 0 0.833 1711.68 1351.70 W10
Da Bomb 7 5 0 0.583 1593.24 1365.50 W2
Jtserb 6 6 0 0.500 1569.28 1519.76 W1
Mike 8 4 0 0.667 1545.40 1415.30 W1
Smith32 7 5 0 0.583 1533.16 1445.68 W2
s_R 7 5 0 0.583 1498.40 1397.82 L1
Nerfherders 8 4 0 0.667 1424.32 1368.66 L3
Kyle 6 6 0 0.500 1417.06 1383.90 L2
Frick 6 6 0 0.500 1406.82 1453.46 W4
Slackjawed Yokels 5 7 0 0.417 1350.56 1387.50 L1
Letter_J 3 9 0 0.250 1316.88 1405.36 L4
Greybear 7 5 0 0.583 1310.28 1438.92 W1
GolfFreak 3 9 0 0.250 1235.92 1507.04 L1
Cressida 1 11 0 0.083 997.44 1469.84 L9
72Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 21:39
69-nevermind
Nice chart Frick
73russelldl
      ID: 28930198
      Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:45
Miami-KC game has been moved up to Friday night to avoid the hurricane.
Folks should probably get their lineups set early.
Good Luck.
74Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 20:31
Agh, I picked up Brandon Jones on Friday to replace Isaac Bruce in the lineup and forgot to click the little box that changes both games. My typical FF luck (none) is coming back!
75Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 10:35
My 2 best moves were made recently with Jurevicius and Detroit Defence. My worst moves? Round 2 and 3 picks of Daunte and Lee Suggs.
WHAT A BAD SEASON.

7-0 GO COLTS
76Nerfherders
      ID: 12511815
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 11:56
I thought I was spared, but I was not. I can't believe the mechanics of a website cost me a game in fantasy.
77Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 11:01
Frick,

Sent you an e-mail.
78Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 13:34
Frick has asked that I post this for all to see.

Greybear and I have reached an agreement concerning the following trade:

Antoine Smith, RB, NWO and Jerramy Stevens, TE, Sea
for
Joe Horn, WR, NWO

Unless someone has an issue with the trade, Frick has stated that he'll process the trade tomorrow morning. If you have a problem (with the trade :->), post it here.
79FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 13:02
Trade processed.
80 Smith32
      ID: 08292210
      Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:29
Anyone interested in Brees or Palmer? I need help at RB since Brown and Jones/Barber have their byes the next two weeks.

Frick - do you update the waiver priorities now based on who was successful the previous week, or is it just based on standings? If it is based on previous claims, could you please post what the order is this week? Thanks.

Smith32
81Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 02:09
Anyone interested in Daunte. I am looking for RBs. Oh wait i should have done this 3 weeks ago. :( i suck...
82 russelldl
      ID: 269493111
      Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 16:51
I'm looking to trade one of my D-lineman (strahan or berry) for a reasonable wideout. Email me if interested.
83Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:04
russelldl,

Sent you a e-mail yesterday (a trade feeler, although it does not involve one of your DL's). Not sure if you received it, as I sent it to an address you had previously provided: russelldl@hotmail.com.

Letter_J
84Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:57
To all fellow AA participants (more particularly, those in dire need of RB's):

If you are in need of (or want) an RB, send along and and all trade offers to james_j_matheson@yahoo.com.
85Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:15
Letter J- e-mail sent. If anyone is in need of a WR lemme know. I may be willing to send some your way
86FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:37
Letter_J, I sent you an offer also.

87Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 13:01
Swamped at work (bloody clients!). Will respond as soon as possible to the offers. Thank you.
88Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 16:12
Smith I sent you an offer.
RBs to spare as well.
89 Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 16:27
DaBomb sent you an offer.

"WillTheRealPeytonManningPleaseStandUp" shoot me an e-mail, I want to discuss a possible trade. Are you interested in upgrading at WR?


90Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 16:45
I replied, frick
91Smith32
      ID: 1101337
      Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 16:50
DaBomb - Thanks for the offer, but I'm not interested in the player you offered.
92Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 13:22
<3>Trade Announcement

Letter_J sends:
Warrick Dunn and Brandon Stokley

Frick sends:
Torry Holt and Chris Perry

If you have a problem with this trade post it in the next 24 hours. I'll process the actual trade tomorrow. Letter_J is that ok with you, will you be able to reset your line-up Saturday afternoon/Sunday morning.

To the other managers who I offered Holt and Ward. Sorry, consider those offers rescinded.
93Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 13:26
All good...
94FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 13:16
Trade processed.

95Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 17:16
Frick, I don't think the claim order is correct.
96Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Mon, Nov 07, 2005, 08:45
What is wrong? If you know what the order should be post it and I'll review and make any changes.

97Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Mon, Nov 07, 2005, 17:17
I believe the claim order wasn't supposed to be reset after week 6, but it still has. Since I don't know what the standings were after week 6, I don't know what the true order should be. However, using the current standings along with the claims made after week 6, the order would be: WilTheRealManningPleaseStandUp
Chicago Serbs
Frickin Idiots
KN321VU
slackjawed yokels
AAA bound
Nerfherders
Sandwich Statics
Cressida
Da Bombers
Vicious Goats
Smith32
ShortBus Stalwarts
Juking Safety
98Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 09:47
I took note of that rule at the start of our season. When week 6 came, I expected the order to not re-set. However, it did. I personally have made roster moves since week 7 presuming that this rule was not in effect (although I was not sure why it was not in effect). I cannot speak for other managers. However, it seems to me that we're going to need a ruling from the commish on what should next take place (i.e., status quo, using the week 7 standings and seeding the waiver claim priorities each week therafter, or using the week 10 standings and seeding the waiver claim priorities.

I have some time today and will re-build our season and post the standings for each week in the posts that follow.
100Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 09:57
I had complete forgotten about this, I needed to change a setting at AOL and I didn't do it. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I messed up and I'm not sure how to "fix" the problem. If you have a solution let me know.
110Nerfherders
      ID: 12511815
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 11:04
I'm pretty sure I was never 6-8. I was:

2-0
4-0
5-1
7-1
8-2
8-4
8-6

Although I probably deserve that 6-8 record with how I have been scoring lol.

(last post deleted)
113Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 11:53
It's going to take a lot of work to re-build the entire season and then re-seed those with tied won-loss records according to points scored and then moving those who made moves to the back of the line to bring the waiver priority list up-to-date.

I leave this to the commish to make a decision concerning what to do. But, as I stated earlier, waiver priorities would have had more value for weeks 7-9 if they had been re-set.

I had earlier posted won-loss records (for weeks 1-7). In light of Nerfherders post, I' ve delete those posts and will re-check all of the records before I post them.
114Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 12:03
I'm going to see if I can change the settings when I get home tonight? If I can I'll post the waiver order here, based on this week's W/L record and then based on points scored. If not, we might have to keep it on the "welfare system."

Again, I apologize, this was my fault I messed up, on both this and the Defense scoring set-up.
115Nerfherders
      ID: 12511815
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 19:00
Do we need to rebuild the season? The standings after week 6 are posted here in post 71. If we need week 7 that's easy enough - it should show week-by-week results on the website.
116Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 20:47
Oh good catch. I am pretty sure we would use the standings after week 6, which is here. If that is the case I could figure out what the waiver order would be. Should I go ahead and do that? (want to get a yes so as not to waste time)
117FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 20:56
I used the standings based on week 6 and ran the pick-ups that were processed via claims submission. This is the result that I get.

WilltheRealManning
Frickin Idiots
KN321VU
Chicago Serbs
Slackjawed Yokels
AAA Bound
Cressida
Nerfherders
Sanwich Statics
DaBomb
Shortbus Stalwarts
Vicius Goats
Smith32
Juking Safety

If anyone has a problem post it here ASAP. When I was reviewing the settings I forgot to check a box to move people to the end of the line.

I'm working now on how to actually change the waiver order.
118Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 21:42
First thing I noticed off the bat is shouldn't Shortbus Stalwarts be 2nd to last as he made the 2nd to last transaction last week?
119FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 19:40
I only looked at the transactions that were timed for 12:00 on Wednesday, claims made. After that aren't players free agents to be picked up without loss of position.

2nd, I apologize for not getting the order updated. I made my last post right before I fell asleep. My wife woke me up an hour later and we were off to the hospital. My daughter was born at 5:33 this morning and I just now got back home to but the oldest two to bed before heading back to the hospital.

I haven't had a chance to look at the waiver claims this week, hopefully everyone got who they wanted, if you didn't please post and I'll try to make a judgement on who should have gotten them.
120Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 00:13
Congrats!

And Frick regarding claims, you can view claims made by going to transactions->claims->view claim results and then view week by week.
121Letter_J
      ID: 59853236
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:32
Frick,

Sent you an e-mail.
122Letter_J
      ID: 281032119
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 15:12
Unfortunately, the commish has yet to respond to the e-mail that I sent to him (understandable given the circumstances and no fault is being laid).

mike and I have spoken about this (via e-mail) and we decided that the best course of action was to post the trade for all to see.

Here is a copy of the e-mail that I sent to Frick yesterday:

Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:14:58 -0800 (PST)
From: "James Matheson"
Subject: AA Trade Between Short Bus Stalwarts and Sandwich Statics
To: adfrick@gmail.com


Frick,

First and foremost, congrats on the newest addition to the Frick household.

Second, I proposed the following trade to mike and he has accepted:

ShortBus sends Aaron Brooks and Jimmy Smith to
Sandwich Statics for Kerry Collins and Ed Reed.

James aka Letter_J
123FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 15:48
Sorry, we just got home from the hospital today. I'll go ahead and process the trade, if ant one has any objections post them asap. I don't see a problem with trade, but if you do say so.

124Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 16:46
GolfFreak,

sent you an e-mail (to thefiveclarks@yahoo.com)
125 russelldl
      ID: 3810172113
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 14:19
I'm looking for a QB if anyone has one to trade, email me if interested.
AAA Bound
126Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 15:06
The trade deadline has been passed.

Sorry
127russelldl
      ID: 3810172113
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:17
well now that doesn't help me.
128Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:18
Sorry about that, I should have posted something earlier.

Also don't forget that there are games on Thursday and I think the rosters will freeze witht the start of the first game. I'll have to check into it.
129russelldl
      ID: 3810172113
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 15:04
Don't sweat it frick, it's not your job to alert us to that kind of stuff. But I am glad you mentioned it before I worked out a trade with someone.
Thanks
130Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 00:19
hey anyone have a quarterback on their hitlist? cause they should drop them and then i'll pick them up. I garentee that they will be hurt in 4 weeks. C-pep then Leftwich. Well it'll be a race to the waivers to pick up a QB. Either that or Carr will be my starter. When did QB go from my strength to my severe handicap?
131russelldl
      ID: 4910342811
      Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 12:36
you aren't the only one Kyle. I lost McNabb and picked up Jamie Martin as a back up. now that kid can't see.
132Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 21:13
Frick are we using the RIFC rules regarding the playoff roster/(non)picking up of players.
133 culdeus
      ID: 151155423
      Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:33
I'd really appreciate a screenshot of your standings tomorrow emailed to me. Any format works. If someone has a dead login id that would be even better.
134Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 09:27
Culdeus, I sent you an e-mail with a link that should work, if it doesn't let me know.

135culdeus
      ID: 151155423
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 09:32
sweet!

works.

Thanks
136Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:03
Yes, I'll try to watch the waiver wire, but mainly we are going on the honor system for this.

Drumroll please,

The play-off teams:
1. AAA Bound
2. Juking Safety
3. Da Bombers
4. Smith32
5. Nerfherders
6. Shortbus Stalwarts
7. Slackjawed Yokels
8. Chicago Serbs

KN321VY misses the play-offs due to a fewer points of the teams tied at 14-12. SJY and Chicago Serbs grab the last 2 spots via total points.

Chicago Serbs is giving thanks to the total point provision due to a his 11th place finish.
137Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:31
I survived! Since I win NO tiebreakers I had to finish top 6. I barely made it. Looks like I get Smith32 again. Hopefully this time my #1 player doesnt leave at halftime!
138Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:50
Everyone in the play-offs do me a favor as I don't have time today.

Post your team name with your rotoguru handle i.e. Frickin Idiots = FRICK

This has been a PITA all season since I can't remember and have to try and piece it all together when ever I posted the league totals.

140Letter_J
      ID: 511026169
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 11:12
Frick, the team names with Rotoguru handles are as follows (in order of seeding):

1. AAA Bound = russelldl
2. Juking Safety = s R
3. Da Bombers = Da Bomb
4. Smith32 = Smith32
5. Nerfherders = Nerfherders
6. ShortBus Stalwarts = Letter_J
7. Slackjawed Yokels = Slackjawed Yokel
8. Chicago Serbs = JTSERB
141Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:23
KN321VU=Kyle=me= Playoffs?
142Kyle
      ID: 367751
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:27
I really feel screwed by the fact that i won 3 more games than chicago serbs. He out scored me by 39.14 points which is 1.5 points per matchup or 3 points a week. DAMN YOU DAUNTE CULPEPPER!
143Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:54
Frick 136 Yes, I'll try to watch the waiver wire, but mainly we are going on the honor system for this

I meant are we allowed to pick up FA like normal during the playoffs? Reason I ask this is because in the RIFC they are doing a system that doesn't allow pickups of QB, RB, WR, and Def at all and only allows pickups for the other positions (TE, K, IDP) if they are Questionable or worse and the only way to make a replacement would be to drop this Q or worse player for the replacement.
144culdeus
      ID: 151155423
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:09
Guys, I think you need to take another look at the 7 and 8 seeds for your bracket. I think you have them backwards. CMIIW.
145FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:47
You are right culdeus, Chicago Serbs is should be the 7 seed. I was trying to determine who made it in the final play-off spots, we had a 3 way tie for the last spot.

DaBomb, you are correct, but I wanted to allow teams to make changes if needed. I am usually not around Sunday mornings so if roster moves were needed I probably wouldn't be around to process them. The play-off schedules should be up shortly.
146Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:03
Frick, I'm not making an assertion, I was asking what process we would be undertaking as we don't have to mirror the RIFC in this.
147FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:58
I know you weren't Bomb. But, I'll gladly leave it up to the teams that are in the meaningful playoffs. I don't have a personal preference and turning off all player movement when I know that I can't respond quickly if someone needs to make a legitimate move is a concern.

I also don't expect a huge response, we haven't had much chatter recently.

Has anyone looked at Cressida's team to see if he has been making roster moves?
148Smith32
      ID: 510296
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 22:42
Nerf - sorry to hear about Westbrook - I have him in another league where we are playing for more than bragging rights. Good luck.
149russelldl
      ID: 411158623
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 01:02
I just want to make sure this is correct. We are using the RIFC rule as accurately described by Da Bomb in 143. And this rule is on the honor system. correct?
(By the way, I ask not because I want to cheat, but just so I'm abiding by the same rules as everyone else)
150Da Bomb
      ID: 55011282
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 01:47
I guess it's up to us. We can either scratch this system completely or use this week as the last to make claims/pick up FA.
151Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 08:13
Correct Bomb, since Guru has granted us latitude I'm going to leave it up to the teams that are in the play-offs.

I also set up the consolation play-off brackets, and I get a bye in the first round, yeah.

Do the championship play-off teams have an opinion?
152Letter_J
      ID: 511026169
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 08:26
I believe that we should mirror the RIFC (after all, this is a RIFC qualifying league and, to the best of my knowledge, we have mirrored the rest of the season; why start changing things now?).

Therefore, as Da Bomb stated, the only changes that playoff managers can make are at TE, K, DE, LB and DB (and that's only if a player at one of those positions is questionable or worse at that position.).

No changes to the other positions (QB, RB, WR and D) are allowed after Monday of week 13.
153Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 10:43
Yeah, I'm screwed without Westbrook. Good luck to everyone else!
154Letter_J
      ID: 511026169
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:02
WTF?

Here are today's transactions:

Transactions for 2005 Week 14
Team Type Pos Player From Team Date
Da Bombers Signed RB R. Moats Free Agency Wed 12/07 12:00p ET
Da Bombers Drop RB M. Morris Wed 12/07 12:00p ET
Da Bombers Signed WR K. Robinson Free Agency Wed 12/07 12:00p ET
Da Bombers Drop RB A. Peterson Wed 12/07 12:00p ET

Did I miss something about the rules of the RIFC?
155russelldl
      ID: 411158623
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 14:18
I agree with Letter J. I thought "the honor system" meant follow the rifc rules and police yourself, not do whatever you want. Had that been the case I would have picked up some waiver guys as well.
156Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 20:13
Hmm. I thought we were allowed to make transactions up to the start of the playoffs. I'll re-pickup the two players I dropped in two days since they are on waivers now. No biggie. But I honestly thought that these rules applied for the playoffs, and it isn't the playoffs yet.
157Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:20
Also, I only posted the rules for people to be made be aware of yesterday, after the supposed deadline for roster moves. If anyone wanted to make a roster move I would not think it would be very fair to spring up on someone and say no more roster moves and give no warning. I myself planned to at least pick up a backup TE.
And if you want to mirror the RIFC to its fullest extent then have the top 4 teams pick their matchup.
158Letter_J
      ID: 511026169
      Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 08:36
If anyone wanted to make a roster move I would not think it would be very fair to spring up on someone and say no more roster moves and give no warning.

No rules were "sprung" on anyone; I personally thought the RIFC rules were fairly clear and have existed since before the beginning of the season. Matter of factly, I made moves last week fully aware that these were my last moves (of course, unless an IDP, TE or K was questionable or worse).

As regards your final commment (if you want to mirror the RIFC to its fullest extent then have the top 4 teams pick their matchup), if I understand correctly that is a separate playoff structure for fun; not the real RIFC.

I have no problems with the moves Da Bomb made (very astute); although if we were allowed to make moves, I believe that, at the very least, Nerfherders would have made a claim for Moats to replace Westbrook (just a guess on my part.)
160Da Bomb
      ID: 43359416
      Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 15:51
No rules were "sprung" on anyone

This is true and not true at the same time. Yes, these rules existed since the beginning, but in the RIFC thread. Since it isn't a requirement to look there, it is possible to conceive that someone may have not known about this rule.

I just misinterpreted the rules, thinking roster moves can me made up until games this week, that's all. I guess I was the only one. And I will be dropping the guys I got, the last thing I want to do is look like someone who's sidestepping the rules.
161Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 16:03
I'll accept blame on this one guys, same as the trade deadline. I should have posted a heads up, but I forgot.

Has anyone checked the match-ups for the play-offs to make sure they are correct.
162mike
      ID: 187181017
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 09:56
so are toilet bowl teams allowed to pick anyone up or not? just curious

good luck everyone. it's been fun (even with a massive collapse in the 2nd half by my team, hehe)
163Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 10:29
No the toilet bowl teams have the same requirements. They should probably be more restrictive, it wouldn't really be fair to have a toilet bowl team drop a good TE, say Gates or Gonzo, and have the play-off teams fight for them.
164leggestand
      ID: 11102399
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 11:14
From an outsider...The consolation teams in the RIFC are frozen, no add/drops allowed for the reasons that Frick brought up.
165Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 12:09
Yeah I would have defintely tried to get Moats if I thought I could. Or Gordon, if available.
166Da Bomb
      ID: 50023623
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 18:32
I just came upon this discovery.

This is from this thread where I first saw the rule.

...Thus, you cannot add or drop a QB, RB, WR, or team Def after the week #14 freeze, period.

This was later corrected in this thread.

Special Notice: I just realized that the above rules, as they were initially stated in the regular season discussion thread, mistakenly referred to week #14 when they should have stated week #13. All of the subsequent discussion seemed to have been based on the correct interpretation - that is, rosters at the end of week #13 are the frozen playoff rosters, subject to the limited injury replacement rules above. But I recognize that if someone read the rule specification literally, they wouild have expected to be able to make "normal" roster adjustments again this week.

For now, I'm going to go with the corrected version of the rule, because it appears that all discussion was based on this rule. But if there are managers who feel they have been duped, please speak up, because I realize that there was ambiguity.


So I guess I followed what I read after all? (Since I didn't really read the discussion). I dropped my two players after I saw this so I don't know what to think now, though I'd still like to have a backup TE. Up to your discretion, of course.
167Da Bomb
      ID: 50023623
      Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 18:34
So Letter J and Nerfherders what made you think you couldn't make roster changes? Did you read the RIFC thread religiously?
168Letter_J
      ID: 14110315
      Sat, Dec 10, 2005, 14:36
Da Bomb,

To answer your question, yes… I have followed all of the threads of the RIFC since I made the decision to participate this year in these fantasy football leagues.

Having seen the development of the thread you made reference to, for clarification, some three weeks ago, I asked my younger brother (I_A_C, who received an invite to the RIFC this year) the status of the particular rule that we are now discussing. My brother assured me that the rule was as I stated earlier: (1) once the freeze occurred for week 13, no changes could be made to any players at the following positions: QB, RB, WR and TE; (2) once the freeze occurred for week 13, changes could be made, provided that the player to be released was questionable or worse, at the following positions: TE, K, DE, LB and DB (Not that it matters, but it is for this reason that I am only carrying the minimum number of players at these positions, opting to carry more players at, for lack of a better term, the skill positions.).

I understand the confusion, as a result of the original error and perhaps I am at somewhat of an advantage (as regards clarification of the rule) having a sibling participating in the RIFC.
169mike
      ID: 187181017
      Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 02:23
I figured I wasn't going to grab anyone. why screw over the top teams. was only going to drop ray lewis anyways.

note to self. stay away from defense so early next year :)
170Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 12:14
A bit of irony here:

Back in week 7 I had made a last minute roster change, grabbing a WR off of FA. But when I added him, I forgot to click the little box that would add him to both rosters. Because of this, I lost both games instead of being 1-1.

That would have put me at 16-10 and in the 3rd seed. I would have drawn Shortbus Stalwarts in the first round and gotten creamed. hehe.
171Smith32
      ID: 511461320
      Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 21:50
I was trying to decide between PacMan and Farrior for my IDP Flex, and of course my decision ultimately ended my season. Although some would say my season ended when I drafted Moss. It was a good experience though - I enjoyed the competitiveness of the league and I am looking forward to AAA next year.

Merry Christmas to everyone, and good luck to those who are still playing.

Smith32
172Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 6742221
      Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 23:17
well, I was one meaningless Alge Crumpler dropped TD reception from pulling off an upset...
173russelldl
      ID: 18114914
      Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 09:47
Yeah, sorry Yokel.
When he dropped that ball and said "merry christmas" to the camera, I turned to my girlfriend and said "I think he's talking to me."
174I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 23916230
      Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 02:05
Well got to say that was quite the exciting end to Letter_J's playoff run... with McNair & Baltimore D on the Bench (That's 56 Point worth)... with either one of those two in... it wouldn't have been an even close contest. Ugh... Crazy.
175Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 02:17
Yeah I noticed that. Still, the GB defense only needed 12 points to win and completely failed against the worst offense in the NFL. That was quite a shock.
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