Posted by: Shak
- [481029813] Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 10:16
Reflecting a bit on the draft after week IV, here are my 5 cents. 1) I still think DD went way to early. He was the 5th RB chosen in both drafts. I believed he was no better than #10. Two RBs that I believed were better and safer picks are Westbrook and Barber. I don't understand why they didn't get more love.
2) Some players get off to a slow start, but you get the feeling that they will eventually start scoring. Then there's others that just don't look right. Culpepper is definitely in the latter category. Three very horrible games. Does anyone believe the Houston triplets will turn it around and start scoring? I don't.
3) We discussed drafting the same players for both teams. I stayed away from it, but others seemed like they went out of their way to do it. 2Cool is paying the price for drafting Culpepper in both. I believe the Tribe will pay for drafting DD too high in both. Harmon took a flyer on Shelton and lost twice. Are there any success stories?
4) Two players chosen in the 2nd round look like they will be busts -- JJ and Tatum. In the JBC, I took Manning first and desperately wanted a RB with my 2nd since I traded away my 3rd round pick for Manning. I instead chose Chad Johnson and felt my season was doomed. The RBs chosen immediately after my pick were Bell, Arrington, and Ronnie Brown. I may still be doomed, but I'd already be history if I selected one of those RBs. I
5) I regret trading up to #1 and I think Scott does too.
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 10:46
The game within the game. Was this the final two teams...seem to be missing some teams. Either way, team two seems to be in the lead.................for now!
Team 1 Clyde half off rock Trash FNAS STB TB half of the rock CPS off rock 2Cool half off rock Lost Reality
Team 2 RBP Shak Edneck HHH Joe Grim Reaper Harmon off rock SupaMario
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 10:57
I have learned some important things this year compared to last.
1. GET A BIG NAME RB, if possible. I screwed up last year with Moss number one. I did the same in EC this year, thinking Curtis Martin will pick up RB duties. Lucky for me Pittman is doing some extra work for me.
2. Get a kicker. I chose not to get a kicker last year and opeted for another RB that ended up bagging groceries in week 3. Plan did not work, gone in week three.
Gotta go
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harmonj
ID: 24645289 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 11:34
I'm still wondering where in the draft is bettervto pick from? I had the middle pick, and the last pick and I screwed both of them up!
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JHHH
ID: 2204499 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 11:45
On the 5 cents:
1) DD's failures are a result of a pathetic Houston offensive line. No improvements over 3 years...someone needs to get fired down there!
2) Culpepper will be up and down all year...mostly down. Houston's triplets numbers can't get any worse.
3) I've had a huge bust and big success in taking players in both leagues...I won't tell you which is which. Eric Johnson and Steve Smith.
4) Big surprise in JJ...not surprised by Tatum.
5) Kind of surprised we had trades in the draft at all.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 12:21
I agree that Houston hasn't improved their offensive line. I'm wondering what they have improved. It seems like they have actually regressed. What's wrong with that franchise? Did they play over their heads last year?
Which is the worst team in the NFL? 1) Houston 2) SF 3) NY Jets 4) GB
It's very close and any of the four could end up with the #1 pick, but I vote for Houston.
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 12:56
Im going with Houston just because of my wasted pick on johnson as my #1 WR. Rackers has more points then him.....rackers has more points then alot of people now that I think about it.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 19:20
I'll have to admit I didn't see the entire Houston team being that bad, I thought Carr would struggle a little, so I stayed away from him, but Johnson and DD should be producing a little better then they are right now. Houston is making Balitmore look like a highpowered offense.
I don't care how good a QB you are, If you don't even get the time to set up in the pocket before getting smacked around your going to suck. I think we are seeing a trend of slow/Fat Offensive linemen going against smaller/quicker and stronger Defensive ends and tackles who blow right my those slow whiteboys.
Learn to run block as a unit or your going to get burnt from the speed of the new "D" being played now days. Speed kills!!
Not sure how JJ has had a bad start, it looks like he needs a few less carries to be more affective I think PArcells over used him in the first three games. He'll be fine.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 19:40
"Not sure how JJ has had a bad start, it looks like he needs a few less carries to be more affective I think PArcells over used him in the first three games. He'll be fine."
Ed they speak of J.J. Arrington.
1) DD has been a dissapointment, agree with that. Barber always goes lower than he should in every league I'm in, he just isn't a "SEXY" pick I guess.
2) Looking more and more like Moss had more to do with the C-Pep to Moss combo than C-Pep did, because without Moss the Vikes look bad.
3) I think I have Foster on two teams and maybe Travis Taylor. I'd like to see Foster get more carries, so far he hasn't produced like I had envisioned.
4) I do not regret trading up. I regret some of my picks but that's my own fault.
Worst team in the NFL? Gotta be SF IMO followed closely by Houston and Cleveland. GB is the best 0-4 team in the world at this stage and injuries have decimated them. The Jets are on the verge of being real bad when CuMar can no longer carry the load and the Pennington injury situation continues.
Not sure who I picked in the preseason for the SB. I think it was Indy and Philly then changed to Indy and Atl. I'll stick with Indy and Atl, Indy for sure.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 08:56
Help me out, who is still alive in both leagues and can we get the excel sheet attached in this thread (TB?). Thx Scott
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:08
Survivor 2005 Totals
Earl Campbell Cast-offs
Jim Brown Cast-offs
Earl Campbell Totals
Jim Brown Totals
1
LR
836
1
Mario
446
1
LR
463
2
Joefut2
802
2
TB
419.5
2
Joefut2
436
3
TB
791
Week 2
3
JHHH
415.5
3
FNAS
434
4
FNAS
776.5
4
Trash
395
4
Shak
403
5
Trash
774.5
5
LR
373
5
Trash
379.5
6
Mario
754
6
RBP
372.5
6.5
Tribe
371.5
7
Shak
740
7
GCobb
369
6.5
TB
371.5
8
JHHH
736.5
8
Joefut2
366
8
STB
353
9
Tribe
731
9
Tribe
359.5
9
GCobb
351
10
GCobb
720
Week 1
10
Ednecks
354.5
10
JHHH
321
11
RBP
685
11
FNAS
342.5
11
Ednecks
314
12
Ednecks
668.5
12
Shak
337
12
RBP
312.5
13
STB
666.5
13
STB
313.5
13
Mario
308
14
Reaper
606.5
14
Reaper
311.5
14
SuperClyde
304
15
SuperClyde
564
Week 2
15
2Cool
266.5
15
Reaper
295
16
CPS
544.5
Week 3
Week 3
16
SuperClyde
260
16
CPS
288.5
17
Harmon
525.5
Week 4
Week 4
17
CPS
256
17
Harmon
284
18
2Cool
501.5
Week 1
18
Harmon
241.5
18
2Cool
235
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:11
"The game within the game. Was this the final two teams...seem to be missing some teams. Either way, team two seems to be in the lead.................for now!
Team 1 Clyde half off rock Trash FNAS STB TB half of the rock CPS off rock 2Cool half off rock Lost Reality Team 2 RBP Shak Edneck HHH Joe Grim Reaper Harmon off rock SupaMario"
Actually the idea was that the lowest scoring team, in the lowest scoring group would get kicked off. I've fallen too far behind to sort it out now.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 12:52
If I understand your directions right, you were going to use this system for the ECC and you probably realize you only drafted 16 out of 18 owners. With that in mind, here's what I came up with:
Week 1 lowest scoring tribe was the Pimps. Reaper given the boot.
Week 2 lowest scoring tribe was the Clydes thanks to Mike's meager 38 points. The tribe leader himself was shown the exit.
Week 3 and the leaderless Clydes were low again due to RBP and JHHH's scoring bursts. 2 Cool is dismissed.
Week 4 and the Clydes were just edged out despite Harmon. It was time to take out the Trashman.
So, in Scott and Mike's fantasy world, Harmon and CPS would still be alive despite being the lowest scoring teams in the ECC. Not sure this brings extra excitement.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 15:09
Yeah I think it was his pick and he never made it, then I had the leftover. It was just an idea, simmer down.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 15:45
Hey, I never said it was a bad idea... ok, I did. It probably would make a nice side bet, though. Since you guys didn't know all the owners, it probably would have been better if you picked sides after the draft. Oh well, here's my predictions.
This is a tough tough week to handicap in the JBC, unlike last week (sorry Harmon). There don’t appear to be any teams on the ropes.
JBC FNAS: This was tough listing the #3 team here, but this team will be in the hunt going into MNF. Sunday’s points will come from Julius Jones and second tier WRs. Unfortunately, Jones is facing a tough Philly D. Good news is Brees and Parker come to the rescue on MNF.
Reaper: Team looks good on paper, but they haven’t been performing. Needs Cadillac to play and put up good numbers. Vick has a tough matchup with a pissed off Pats D. Luckily, he’s guaranteed nice K points with Hanson and Lindell in the stable, but will it be enough? Maybe he was right and should have taken a D with his last pick.
RBP: I have to list the Pimp Tribe Leader here even though Marvin Harrison may go off for 60 points vs. the 49ers. He'll get average points at QB with Harrington and Big Ben. RB is a huge question mark for the RBP, as Ahman is banged up, Foster is a backup, and Suggs and Moats are not yet ready for prime time. RBP needs Horn to rest up another week, so that Stallworth can go off vs. the Pack and he needs Manning to keep looking Harrison’s way before things get out of hand in SF.
Trash: I’ve listed the Trashman simply because the Priest is on a bye. If we are going to take the Trash out, this is the week. W. Dunn may not find much running room this week vs. Philly and he may need to find points from Calico, Mason, and/or Givens to stay alive.
Head: The Grim Reaper will leave in a broken down Cadillac. Heart: Need to take the Trash out now during Priest’s bye week. Gut: I have a feeling the low man will be someone who least expects it.
ECC 2Cool: Lowest ranking team still alive in the ECC and he has Culpepper, LJ, Porter, and Robinson on byes, Feely with the clipboard and JJ MIA. This team has one foot (or maybe even a leg) in the grave this week. Will need Clark, McCardell, and/or Chris Brown to post huge numbers to move on.
FNAS: I had to list this QB-less team -- Warner’s hurt and Collins on a bye. To add to that, Charles Rogers will be having a four game holiday. Dillon, Rudi, and Coles have underperformed so far. He’ll need at least one of them to step it up and he’ll need Fast Willie to post decent numbers at SD.
Tribe: I have to list the Tribe because of his questionable RB prospects this week. Suggs isn’t starting yet, DD isn’t performing yet, and Duckett goes against the Pats. TO is his lone WR this week and should be able to do his thing vs. Dallas (wonder if he’ll pose on the star again?). Luckily, he'll get solid K points with Elam and Longwell.
Shak: Eli has been solid lately, but he’s on a bye and Vick will more than likely struggle vs. the Pats. Jamal is the lone RB and he has a favorable matchup at Det. I’ll likely need big points from WRs Holt, Lloyd, and Bennett to move on.
Head: 2Cool is in some serious trouble. Heart: FNAS is a dangerous team that is sputtering right now. Gut: 2Cool is next in line to leave and the bye weeks will kill him.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 20:35
Marvin! Marvin! Marvin! Marvin!!
On a totally off topic before I came home for 45 days of leave I had only seen 1 episode of the Sopranos. I just got done watching season #1 and I'm starting season #2 tonight. Great series, but not for kids (or your wife for that matt, "Bada Bing").
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 04:03
According to the great Shak philly is screwed this weekend playing Dallas and Atlanta at the same time. Or is it a double header? Anyway everyone is so critical around here. Godd not to see my name up on that list....yet
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 08:29
Yes, it is a double header.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 09:43
Joe, I take the time to post something that I'm hoping will stir more interest and conversation and the best reply you can come up with is: "According to the great Shak philly is screwed this weekend playing Dallas and Atlanta at the same time."? I can see why it's so quiet around here.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 11:08
It was a nice post, keep it up Shak Daddy!
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 12:20
I don't want to seem sensitive, but I really can't believe I'm not hearing more opinions. I'd much rather have someone tell me I'm full of sh@# and here's how it's going to be, instead of a wisecrack about how the "great shak" mixed up the philly opponent. How's that going to create more conversation? That's just plain stupid! If you want to mock me at least do it with something more tangible.
Why can't we have a league where more than a third of the owners chiming in on the board? I think we should make it a requisite for getting invited back the next year -- you need to post on the board at least once a week. Exceptions on a case by case basis. That's my opinion! Anyone else have an opinion?
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 12:24
Shak, I see you can’t take a joke. Look how upset you got because of a little baby typo. It’s just that when you (not just you, anyone in general) rip someone or use a condescending tone, typos tend to stick out. It’s just how things work. When you elevate yourself/put someone down, people look for flaws. Not trying to upset you buddy. Anyway, in reference to your comment you made regarding myself, you have definitely stirred interest, I just hope the Eagles can handle the Cowboys and the Falcons at once, and I wonder if it will be on AFN. ;)
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 12:43
NFL Live Event Week 5: Philadelphia Eagles @ Dallas Cowboys * If MLB Division Series Presented by Budweiser Is Not Necessary FOX-TBD AFN-ATLANTIC: Sun 10/9/2005 2200
That would be sweet irony if my game (eagles) is not aired so they can show the Houston Astros who beat my Phillies out for the wild card. Damn AFN! At least I will get to watch plenty of commercials regarding drinking and driving, Nebraska, smokeless tobacco, and date rape!
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 12:47
I may have overreacted, but that's my way of expressing my passion. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I try not to resort to personal attacks or post in a condescending way. If you feel I've done that to you, I apologize. If you feel my posting my predictions for the week is some how trying to make myself look like an the expert that I'm obviously not, well that's not my intent. My intent is to get some conversation going. It hasn't been working so maybe I'll save the time and just surf porn instead.
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 13:00
Dude everyone can have an opinion; you did not offend me and your suppose to discuss football so good job man your par. Your predictions were good to read and I was happy that was not included. You’re the man, I have to crash now. Big brother is always watching so easy with the porn.
"Self proclaimed Survivor Come Back Owner of the year and reigning playoff champion (yes you can be both)"
Joe
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 13:01
"happy that I was not included" is what it is suppose to say above.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 13:16
"Survivor Come Back Owner of the year"
Has a nice ring to it, the only problem I have is that it means you TANKED the year before. Thanks but no thanks.
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 13:23
LOL. Yeah, the "comeback" or "most improved" awards are not ones I would ever be shooting for.
Sorry I haven't posted much, but with one team going out so early in the JB, I don't have a lot of room to talk trash. I do find it ironic that the team that left has still outscored 11 teams to date. It was a crappy week for me.
No Tiki Barber for me in the EC this week, so I need some other guys to step up big. If I can get past Barber and Westbrooks's bye weeks, I will be feeling good about that team.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 19:50
Shak giving you boys a hard time again! I love it when the Shak gets fired up, he brings out the Fantasy fire, which I enjoy. Bust away.
TB I can feel your pain, there is no bad luck in Fantasy football, just lucky SOB's, you left because you scored the lowest..and that's the bottom line. Glad to see ya leave. I'm not looking for the 2Cools and STB's to leave I want you so called bigdogs to tank it.
Joe how many times do I have to hear about you winning it all, it won't happen...
I've felt I was going for the last three weeks, some teams are just destined to keep winning or staying alive, Shak last year was supposed to be gone from week 2 thru-10 and he survived too the final week...now there is a lucky SOB, his teams should be sucking, but they are kicking arse this year. I like JHHH and LR to win in the leagues, can't remember which ones, but they look the best...I forgot to mention Joe is the comeback team of the year and is the regiening playoff champ..just incase you missed it again and again and again and again!!!
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 04:05
Hey my PR guy is freddie mitchell. Anyway, I never said I would win it all, thats just to damn cocky ed. Read the posts....never said it, unless it was sarcasm in draft mode when everyone is a conteneder. Any week anyone could be gone, regardless of your teams talent. I cant get enough wood down here to knock on if I was about to say that I was gonna win it all.
RBP to answer your comment...did you see me last year...did you see my team...I tied for last place in week one and only got to week two because manning was going against the patriots. I dont know how I managed to get all the way to week three....maybe because Ajaye was playing. Its safe to say I tanked.
No longer "self-proclaimed" survivor Come Back Owner of the year (Edneck my agent has just made it official above, I am the comeback player of the year) and still reigning playoff champion
Joe
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 09:46
Ed, I knew you'd enjoy the little tantrum I threw down yesterday. I have to admit part of it was frustration that this board is so quiet and part of it was show. It always makes for good reading when there's a bit of controversy, doesn't it? In person, I'm a real sweetheart that never gets upset. :-)
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 10:31
Bring it Shak Daddy, somebody has to liven this joint up.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 10:49
Just pulling your leg Joe, you are the comeback player up till week 5. I want Bulger back.
Wait till RBP gets too Korea then we will have a war or two before we send Joe home for good.
I'm hoping for a big name to hit the road this week in both leagues. I'll be happy with Mario, JHHH, LR, Shak, or Joe leaving the rock...need to get rid of these pretender's.
Happy Days.
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JHHH
ID: 2204499 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 11:23
Pretenders? Now I'm a pretender? My EC team should hang around for awhile. My EC squad was built with a near perfect draft. In other words I got really lucky with Mike Anderson and Stephen Davis. If my Johnson bothers had turned up at all, it would have been the perfect draft.
My JB team is completely unexciting and I'm pinning no hopes on them lasting much longer.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 11:37
All you guys scoring better then me are pretenders!! I'm hanging on by a thread in both leagues, just trying to pump up my lineup to score over the 100 mark..I've scored 70-95 every week and they are starting to get a complex.
JHHH and LR fifth off the rock!!!!
but anyone else but me will do just fine!
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 12:14
Yeah ed.....that wasnt my leg! As far as the draft trades go, which JHHHHHHHHH was so surprised about, read the small print buddy, its all there. You actually explained it to me last year when the league first started. I may have made that part up but who cares about the details. Then you told me to draft all the Backup Arizona and Miami RB. Very helpful. Anyway back to ed, I thank you very much for that trade, as to date it has been very helpful, but before I get ahead of myself I know having my only QB and killer sleeper WR (round 9) both out in week 10 will hurt (if I get there). That was why I drafted green in the first place, week 5 bye. Hey woulda coulda shoulda (thats italiana) cheers!
Super Mario next off the rock....he smells
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 12:18
Did not see my name on there as a pretender until after I posted the last message.
Ed next off the rock; double whammy Sanders style
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 12:55
Injuries and QB benchings are starting to take their toll. I know Scott has to be concerned about Ahman's health. It also looks quite certain that the Caddy will stay in the garage this weekend. I know that makes Ed and Joe happy and Reaper and Mario nervous. Joe may pick up Pittman for a few weeks, but if I were him I'd be concerned about Hines' hammy -- those things tend to linger and his doesn't seem to be getting better. Owners of Bruce and Horn also should be praying for quick recoveries.
What injury would most benefit your team. I was going to say what injury would you most like to see happen, but none of us want to see a player get hurt, right? I'd really like to see B Jacobs get some playing time, so I wouldn't mind if Tiki took a week or two off. I've pretty much written off M Bennett, so I don't even think an injury would help him.
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 13:44
Mario is not nervous...he does not even know that he has williams on his team.................
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 14:24
Mario will take another hit if DJack can't go. Luckily for him, this is in the ECC, where 2Cool and FNAS are in dire straits.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:41
Better for the survivors if FNAS gets the boot. 2Cool doesn't scare me.
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FNAS
ID: 583922 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 19:33
Come on Scott. What kind of stuff is that? Did I say anything about last weeks DFL? But you are right. If I can make it through another couple weeks, I should be sitting pretty good.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 20:12
Shak is right a lot of nice players are hurt this week not to mention the bye week teams.
Possible sitters this week--Horn, Ward, Jackson, Engram, A. Green, B. Franks, C. Williams, Bruce,
Bye week guys--Culpepper, Burleson, Moore, Wiggens, T. Green, Holmes, Gonzalez, Johnson, Barber, Manning, Burress, Jordan, Collins, Moss. that has got to hurt a few teams this week, quite a few big names mentioned.
I got T. Green and Burleson in the JB and Jordan in the EC sitting this week. Bad week to be missing more then two player?
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 22:29
"Did I say anything about last weeks DFL?"
Good win for you, were both 3-1 and looking pretty good. My team is over achieving at this point which I'll gladly take. I still regret dropping Jackson and drafting Lewis, at least so far.
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FNAS
ID: 583922 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 08:07
Honest question. No dig intended. Is Penn State for real? I don't get any games except for the damn SEC.
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JHHH
ID: 2204499 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 17:17
I was wrong...things can get worse for A. Johnson!!!
0 0 0 ZERO!
Injured calf? Early reports are saying it was a "blown season!"
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JHHH
ID: 2204499 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 18:25
1st weekend I haven't watched any football in ages! Houston/Atlanta now in the 16th inning with the Rocket now on the mound...what a game!
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Shak
ID: 165532722 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 18:31
RBP on the ropes in JBC. He has 5.5 points after early games. Needs huge game from Harrison. FNAS also struggling with 5 points, but he has some scorers coming up.
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Shak
ID: 165532722 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 18:50
RBP, STB, TB, and of course 2Cool are struggling in ECC. 2Close to call right now.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 20:13
Man thats no joke, I have NOOOOOOOOOOO POINTS!
Need Worthlessburger to get me a few scores tomorrow night or it's lights out for Big Daddy.
ECC 2Cool 30 +McCardell STB 35 +LEftwich and Chad FNAS 41 +Rudi and Fast Willie TB 50 +Jimmy Smith Reaper 50 +Rothlisberger RBP 55 +LT
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FNAS
ID: 583922 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 20:44
Before this week I would think Brees and Fast Willie would be enough to keep me alive. Not so much this week.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 21:24
Is PSU for real? Their defense is that's for sure and teh house was ROCKIN last night. They will not go unbeaten but they look like the best in the Big 11 of the teams I've seen so far (and I've seen them all).
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 21:26
I had a feeling quite a few teams would struggle this week. Didn't think it would be as low as 17.5 points with only a QB left for RBP.
I'm safe........he he
Good luck!!
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FNAS
ID: 583922 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 23:05
I wonder what will happen in the rankings if ND beats USC next week? I think they will somehow figure a way to leave USC #1
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Shak
ID: 165532722 Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 23:30
I don't understand why you would say something like that. I guess you're just upset because you feel that Texas should already be ranked number one. They have a very impressive team, but OSU losing to PSU will hurt UT's SOS and somewhat diminish the impressiveness of that victory. USC could very well lose at South Bend and if they do, they will probably drop to 4 or 5. If they run the table after that, they will probably still make it to the Rose Bowl and be favored vs. whoever they face.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 09:20
Shak Daddy USC are media darlings. If they lose a close one I could see them only dropping to 4th, if they get blown out then they will fall farther. I also do think that USC will slip up somewhere along the line either vs ND or Cal and heck don't forget UCLA.
University of Spoiled Children
Hey where is Timmy Dahl at? He is a huge Irish fan, figured he'd be on here every day telling us how great Charlie is.....
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Shak
ID: 165532722 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 09:45
I think dropping to fourth or fifth after losing on the road to a top 10 team sounds right, but to speculate that they may stay #1 after a loss is a bit ridiculous. I don't want to sound like I'm jumping on the SC bandwagon, but living in Pac10 country, it's hard not to notice just how good they are. If you're the defending champion, blowing every team out, and have three legit heisman candidates, it's hard not to keep them at #1. At this point, they should be the undisputed #1 team. Disagree??
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 10:17
Media darlings? They have won 27 games in a row. I am thinking their last loss was to Cal in Sep 2003. Bring the Irish on.
Fight On for ole SC Our men Fight On to victory. Our Alma Mater dear, looks up to you Fight On and win For ole SC Fight On to victory Fight On
All hail to Alma Mater To thy glory we sing All hail to Southern California Loud let thy praises ring Where western sky meets western sea Our college stands in majesty Sing our love to Alma Mater Hail, all hail to thee
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 10:34
NFL no tolerance or NFL no competence?
What’s with Barber getting a free pass after punching an official in the face? I thought if you swing a punch at someone it is an automatic ejection. That was the NFL’s excuse after Trotter got ejected in pregame week one for shoving a facemask! How come when Brady punched someone last week the commentators said he was a warrior and not afraid to step up to the opposing defense? Some of this is just ridiculous. All night last night there were horrible calls by the refs. Unfortunately I can’t blame the refs for the Eagles collapse. Gotta go!
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 10:45
Gotta say I'm sick of hearing how great USC is. I'm sick of hearing "3 Pete", when they have only won 1 BCS title in a row (remember LSU). Heck one poll in 2002 had USC the national champ even though tOSU went 14-0 and beat then invincable scUM of Fl.
Now that my rant is over I still think that USC is media darlings. They are incredibly talented. Bush/Leinart/Jarret form a killer offensive trio. I think the Pac 10 sucks overall, just my opinion, but they just don't seem to play good defense top to bottom. So USC being loaded, playing in what most of the country would call the worst conference of the big conferences (SEC, ACC, Big 10 and Big 12--maybe tied with the Big 12) have a pretty easy road back to the MNC game. More power to them.............as I sit here looking through Scarlet and Gray glasses you can imagine my disdain for USC as they continue to roll on.
Sorry for the rant, possible misinformation spewed and my genral negative feelings for the boys of Troy.
Go ND! (Can't believe I said that)
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 12:40
The whole College ranking system is flawed as we already know. I think pre-season ranking's are guess work and normally not accurate. I don't think teams should be ranked until after week 4 and you have a better idea who the stronger teams are. Obviously OSU was not as strong as people thought, USC may be ranked 3-4 after a shaky start to the season. Right now you would have to rank Texas and Virigina Tech near the top.
I do believe each season should have no bearing on last years team, USC is a good/great team but not playing up to pre-season expectations. IF I had to rank the top three it would be 1. Texas 2. USC 3. Virigina Tech soley on this years performance. Not sure about Penn ST?
TB, Anyone that knows the fight-song is either a diehard fan or is the biggest nerd collecting fight-songs as a hobby?
Just my two-cents since I am a Kentucky fan and have nothing to cheer about until basketball season. I mean STB (ND) RBP (OSU) TB (USC) JHHH & Cobb (UT) cannot be bias in having a discussion concerning their beloved College teams, just wont happen.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 16:35
Rankings. Just ask Auburn last season about pre-season rankings. It is very hard for a team like PSU to get into the national title game this season because they start so low in the initial ranking. I'd much rather see the intitial ranking come out after 4-5 weeks, before that it's guesswork anyways. VT and UT have very impressive starts, so has USC just not as dominating as people expected (but as Cooper used to say "a wins a win a win"). Obviously TenneCheat and tOSU were overrated. I'd like to think that the Buckeyes would beat most of teh teams ranked ahead of them but you are what you are, and right now the Bucks are 3-2. Read a study that a guy did regarding rankings. Said that Michigan has finished lower than the pre-season ranking by more combined positions than any team in the NCAA over the last 5 years or so (I can't recall the length of the study). So what does that say? It says that year after year the media thinks that scUM is better than they really are, hence the media bias.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 16:37
Regarding Auburn, they missed the BCS Championship game last year because they started out ranked in the 20's to start the season while USC and OU were ranked in the top 3. If the ranking would have come out later in the season then Auburn would have been 4-0 just like everybody else and ranked towards the top, instead of barely in the top 10.
Who does this affect? Injuries continue to mount........
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 18:39
What's messed up is complaining that Auburn got jacked last year just a post or two down from dismissing USC as Co-National Champs from the previous year. What's up with the double standard?
Anyone who watches college football knows that top to bottom, the Pac Ten ain't no SEC. I would love to see the other teams get better, but it doesn't diminish the fact that USC has been taking care of business against non-Pac Ten opps. In the last two years OU, VT, Auburn, Michigan, and ND have all had their shot and USC took care of business.
I understand the hate, though. I don't remember ever meeting a Patriot fan until a couple years ago and now they are all over the place. I never thought I could despise a fan base more than the Chiefs or Broncos. I was wrong. Red Sox fans are coming close, but they are probably all Patriot fans too.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 19:35
Two different topics I thought. One was about me not liking USC and hoping they lose and two was about my dislike for early polls.
My point about Auburn was that they had NO chance to get into the MNC game because they started out too low in the pre-season rankings to overtake OU and or USC. Not sure about teh double standard.
Now I did say that USC IMO is not a two time Nat. Champ. If anything it's 1.5 (1 BCS and a split title with LSU). I think that the schools voted to crown the MNC (mythical national champion) as the BCS winner, so under that premise USC has won one MNC or BCS title in a row, not two.
Now before we let this USC talk get out of control let me reiterate that I hate the BCS. 16 team or worst case a 8 team playoff is what is truly needed. With 16 you can give an automatic bid to all of the major conference winners and leave room for at large bids. That is all.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 19:37
I'm with ya TB on the fly-by-night/jump on the bandwagon fans who suddenly are great Red Sox or Patriot fans. Sure the respect is there, but I'm not going to start wearing a jersey with Brady's name on the back.
I think Hate is a strong word, I find myself wishing for teams like USC/OU to start losing because it gets old seeing your team fall short every year because they can't get past USc or Miami or OU. It's just like what I call the Favre love affair. All you read is it's not Brett's fault the Packers are 0-4, Of course it is to a major extent. People love Farve because he's a great guy and makes it look like playing football is the best thing in the world.
The same thing as Mike Skiba (I mean JAckson) couldn't be possible he might be a Peterfile? (spelled correct)!! I mean I love to watch Favre play, but he has lost a number of games in the past few year solely because he sucked. You can't get Tom Jackson, Dicka, or Bradshaw to say something negative about him, just wont happen.
I rambled a little, but Pre-season rankings are about the same thing...love affairs!!
I don't see it that way Scott. I mean Brees will have a tough time against an excellent Pitt Defense. How much do Staley and Bettis eat into Fast Willie's yards?
If Roth can get you a couple TD's then it should be very close.
I think FNAS is favored, but you do have a chance, depends on how the game plays out tonight. A close game with a few LT TD's and none for Brees is what your looking for.
Good luck
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 20:33
Everyone wishes they could go back and make some changes to their draft picks, I know I do, name two you wished you drafted and two players you made mistakes with. LT/James/Alexander are givens:
Wish I had: 1. P. Burress, looks like Eli is turning him into a stud. 2. T. Jones, before that knee got hurt this week.
Wish I had passed on: 1. Burleson, major disappointment along with Cpep. 2. T. Green, looks like a weak throwing arm to me. I do think he can turn it around with that offense.
Was just looking at some of the bad moves I made.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 21:14
I wish I would have passed on Ahman Green. I wish I had passed on Foster (twice). I wish I picked Vicks backup instead of Hutchinson (I REALLY thought about it), at least he played ONE FRICKEN GAME!!!!!!! I wish I had passed on Suggs.
E. Manning would have been nice, especially where he was drafted.
JBC.Best pick in round 10... M. Ship/Clyde 9/Parker/FNAS 8/Jacobs I guess/Cobb (no stand outs) 7/Drougnes/STB 6/S.Davis/CPS 5/M.Anderson/Tribe 4/T.Jones/Shak 3/Dunn/Trash 2/Owens/Lost Reality (spec. mention C. Williams) 1/LT/Joe
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 21:20
BTW S. Davis went in the 9th round in the ECC. Nice pick Mr. Hobdy. L.J. Smith also went in the 9th, another great pick. Parker in the 8th again, nice FNAS. Mike Anderson in the 6th, again Mr. Hobdy. Steve Smith to Mr. Hobdy again in round 4.
If HHH doesn't win the ECC something criminal will have to happen!
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 21:49
Busts and good choices.
1- Dom Davis, Culpepper, A. Green- All slow starts, McAllister out for the year 2- R. Moss, Holt, Johnson, & Owens all money so far, might make me rethink the RB-RB approach for next year. Harrison slow start. Arrington a bust. Ronnie Brown hasn't done much and should be about done with Ricky coming back. J. Walker=Ouch. Gonzo and Green off to slow starts, but they will get better. 3- Bulger- Money. A. Johnson- bust. Foster, Bettis, Brooks- Yuck. 4- Wow, 4th round is a lot of crap. Smith, Boldin, and Jones the only ones really producing so far. Delhomme and McNair okay. Pennington, Warner, and Jackson hurt. Stokley, Suggs, M. Bennett, and Carr- busts. 5- Fitz, J. Smith and Burress good picks. Coles and Chambers okay too. Staley and Bruce beat up. Fargas- bust. Lelie, Porter, and D Bennett need to heat up. 6- E. Manning, Crumpler, and LJ Smith good picks. S. Davis good pick too as long as he stays healthy. 7- Boller and Losman- Butt ugly picks. 8-10 Galloway looking like a great grab, Parker too. Dilfer, S. Moss, Key. Johnson, Pittman, and maybe even Troupe all looking like good grabs.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 21:53
TD Pitts and it was a pass and it was not to Foster. Giving me false hope, that is all.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 22:03
Actually now it is a run, but still points for me. Ward was not touched, refs must be getting paid by the SD mob.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 22:05
Roth up the middle for a TD. RBP holding off FNAS, it's going like I said it had to Scott!!!
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 22:13
INT -2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 22:46
Now a TD by Brees. Going to be CLOSE.
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 22:54
Tight baby!! I think you need another TD from Roth to win it and PArker gets not much from Parker.
FNAS quaking in his LAzyboy!!
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 00:23
With 1:00 to go I have 20 points from Roethlisberger.
FNAS has 3.5 from Parker and 12 from Brees.
If that holds up I survive, barely.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 00:44
RBP by a nose. I'll take it.
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 11:49
The call stating Ward was down robbed me of a TD and immunity in EC...it happens
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 12:14
With Davenport on bye and injured, Shipp on bye, Bruce doubtful, and Walker out. Superclyde looks like an early favorite to leave JB this week with only 6 people playing including two QB's. I would hate to rely on Manning against the D that destroyed philly. Delhomme Manning James Taylor Bryant Janikowski
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Joe
ID: 4652283 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 12:20
nevermind......guess you have immunity huh...good timing
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 12:44
In the JBC, I'm putting my money on RBP, who escaped by the hair on his chinny chin chin and now his Big Ben really may be a WorthlessBurger for a few weeks. Luckily, Poor Ben can look forward to knee rubs from Natalie Gulbis.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 12:50
In the ECC, LR (McNabb), TB (Westbrook) and the Tribe (TO) are sweating out Philly's bye week. Contrary to popular opinion, this past week was not a bye week for Philly.
Too bad Harmon's already out -- we could've had a gimme this week. Losing McCallister and Davenport pretty much sewed up last place for him in ECC (four out of ten players out for the year!).
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Edneck
ID: 115222815 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 13:30
Getting rid of two pretty nice teams in FNAS & TB in the JBC has made it a little easier to hang a around a little longer, due to a few weak teams staying alive.
In the ECC it's going to get tough to hang around, we have eliminated the weaker teams and I think you got to score more then 70+ to hang around in that League. HAvn't looked who has bye week/injury problems, but I know I have Shipp and Driver out, so that limits me to 7 scorer's, good news is I have Portis/Jordan through there bye weeks.
Things change from week to week, right now MArio/Trash/JHHH look pretty nice in both leagues. just two weeks ago we were talking like FNAS was a lock to hang around awhile. I'm not lighting up the score boards, but I have been pretty consistent getting 70-100 every week. Lost out on Immunity to SC by 1 point, but 101.5 is a low score for immunity.
It's funny Harmon/CPS/2Cool are out in both leagues, either that's very unlucky or they were drinking to much during the draft?
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 13:34
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has a hyperextended left knee and a bone bruise sustained during a game-winning field goal drive at the end of a 24-22 victory over San Diego on Monday night, but hasn't been ruled out of Sunday's game against Jacksonville.
I guess the Gulbis knee rubs really are magical.
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Shak
ID: 481029813 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 13:36
We need to make sure Harmon/CPS/2Cool are invited back next year!
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 16:23
I think they played last year too. Until I win it is going to be hard to talk much smack, though.
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FNAS
ID: 583922 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 17:53
Brees didn't let me down. It was the damn play calling. It was like they went in to a "protect" offense in the third quarter. I never liked the powder blue! Good luck to the rest still in.
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TB
ID: 1286814 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 19:23
Survivor 2005 Totals
Earl Campbell Cast-offs
Jim Brown Cast-offs
Earl Campbell Totals
Jim Brown Totals
1
LR
987.5
1
Mario
551
1
LR
521.5
2
Joefut2
979
2
JHHH
520
2
Joefut2
513
3
Trash
968
3
Trash
495
3
Shak
479.5
4
JHHH
940
4
TB
475
4
Trash
473
5
Mario
938.5
5
Joefut2
466
5
Tribe
463
6
TB
905.5
Week 2
6
RBP
449
6
FNAS
461.5
7
Tribe
903
7
GCobb
448
7
STB
442
8
Shak
882
8
LR
443
8
TB
430.5
9
GCobb
873.5
Week 1
9
Tribe
440
9
GCobb
425.5
10
FNAS
856.5
Week 5
10
Ednecks
439
10
JHHH
420
11
Ednecks
853.5
11
Shak
402.5
11
Ednecks
414.5
12
STB
826.5
12
FNAS
395
12
SuperClyde
405.5
13
RBP
794
13
Reaper
389.5
13
Mario
387.5
14
Reaper
748.5
14
STB
384.5
14
CPS
360.5
15
SuperClyde
739
Week 2
15
SuperClyde
333.5
15
Reaper
359
16
CPS
671
Week 3
Week 3
16
CPS
310.5
16
RBP
345
17
2Cool
622
Week 5
Week 1
17
2Cool
297
17
2Cool
325
18
Harmon
593
Week 4
Week 4
18
Harmon
283
18
Harmon
310
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TB
ID: 1286814 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 19:31
Just by looking at the chart above, in the JBC it looks like RBP and Reaper have been living on the edge. I hate not having Westbrook for this week, but it's not like he showed up last week, either. Hopefully Barber and a couple WR can get me past this week. Tough break for FNAS in the JBC, but he is looking solid from here on out in the ECC
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 21:09
Yes, I guess living on the edge is a safe assessment.
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RBP
ID: 15842222 Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 06:10
Leave for Korea in 30 minutes, I'll see you on the other side. Shak my BBM team made the World Series, please set my rotation! Thx Scott
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JHHH
ID: 33647188 Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 07:12
Interesting to see two "Top 8" teams have exited in the JB. Reaper and RBP in the bottom four with sad totals and SURVIVING! What do you have to do? Just beat one team every week!
While the EC is pretty much working out true to form with the bottom four gone (and GCobb having one of "those" weeks).
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RBP
ID: 399131419 Fri, Oct 14x, 2005, 21:18
FNAS, TB and GCobb deserved to last longer.....nah, what fun would that be!