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0 Subject: AAA#1 Preseason Discussion #1

Posted by: Trip
- [72553010] Thu, Jul 13, 2006, 13:18

AAA#1 Members
Trip
StLCards
Letter_J
wolfer
beastiemiked
fugazi
holt
Toral
Slowhand
Tree
Da Bomb
Taxman
JTSERB
Smith 32

I will send out invites to the league site shortly.
1Trip
      ID: 72553010
      Thu, Jul 13, 2006, 13:52
Invites sent out to all new members.

StL, Wolfer and Slowhand, you were already in the league.

Here is a link to the site.

AOL League Manager
2 Taxman
      ID: 40627147
      Fri, Jul 14, 2006, 20:42
I managed to erase the e-mail. Can you please re-transmit to me. Thanks
3Tree
      ID: 53624157
      Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 10:29
man. i can't believe you guys haven't started arguing about who's taking second place yet.
4Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 10:31
resent
6Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 20:29
Trip...
got the resend of sign up info THANKS

...after not getting my Netscape ID acknowledged for 3 days, created new ID for AOL, but now, still cannot get in. Either the League name or the Password is not recognized...and of course, AOL will not say which is the problem.
7Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 21:34
Taxman...did you use a different addy when you created the new ID? Let me know and I can resend to that address.
8holt
      ID: 386122123
      Sat, Jul 22, 2006, 00:18
just got home from wyoming. i'll try to catch up on my e-mail this weekend.
9Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Jul 22, 2006, 15:47
I'm out of town @ daughter's wedding in Hill Country. Should have computer access by first of week. I'll try "re-entry" then. Thanks for patience.
10 holt
      ID: 386122123
      Sun, Jul 23, 2006, 14:19
can you send me an invite again? send it to this e-mail account please. i get too much junk at hotmail.
11Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 12:11
Holt - resent.

Taxman, let me know what I can do.
12Tree
      ID: 8642418
      Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 19:08
when are we looking at drafting?
13Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 09:58
I would like to kick things off close to the same time as the big league.

E-mail sent to fugazi as he has yet to join the league.
14holt
      ID: 386122123
      Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 14:02
trip - fugazi's cable modem broke down on him. supposedly the cable company is replacing it for him today.
15Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 00:00
I will be out of town and away from computer contact til Aug 1 or 2...I know nothing is likely to happen before then but just in case anything comes up.I like the idea of starting the draft close to the same time as RIFC also.
16 Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 09:11
When 2 people send me 2 sets of random #s 1-14, I will determine the order for the draft order draft.
17Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 13:26
BUTT

Still need another set.
18holt
      ID: 386122123
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 15:24
sent
19Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 16:47
Draft Order Selection Draft Order

Taxman
Tree
beastiemiked
wolfer
Toral
Letter_J
holt
Slowhand
StLCards
Da Bomb
Smith
JTSERB
fugazi
Trip

You guys stink!

BTW, STL sent 13,7,11,10,14,2,12,3,1,8,5,4,6,9
and Holt sent 9,6,11,2,5,14,10,1,4,7,13,8,3,1

Taxman, you may make your selection at any time.
21Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 17:08
to clarify - these are the positions we're using?

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
8 bench
21 Total
22Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 17:09
oh wait - they were updated:
Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
3 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

wow. a 24 round draft with 14 teams. sheesh. that's a DEEP draft.
23Tree
      ID: 42632275
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 06:45
hopefully Tax will get his position in before this afternoon. i'm leaving at 2 and won't have computer access until tomorrow some time.
24Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 15:57
Does anyone feel strongly for or against using kafenatid's "On the Clock" program?
25Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 21:42
If I can ever join...I will provide the kafenatid draft. Anotherwords, yeah..I feel very strongly. It is a huge time saver against keeping up manually with a draft..who is drafted, by position, clock, queue..and on and on and on
26Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 22:04
Finally in...don't understand why it rejected me for the past 8 days...but now I am in.

Contact Fred to set up draft at kafenatid. I have e-mailed him to take care of fees involved. So we should be good to go.

Everyone will need to have an account to enter the kafenatid draft. kafenatid link
27StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 22:43
Taxman, you forgot to tell us which draft position your taking since you have the first choice.
29Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 12:22
Tree selects position #3. BeastieMikeD is up.
30Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 12:23
Sorry..didn't see that. Thanks for the heads up e-mail StLCards. I promise to pay more attention to this and related threads. Way to focused on AOL rejection.


Draft position #1



31holt
      ID: 386122123
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 11:44
3 days, 2 draft order selections. smoooth sailin'.

32beastiemiked
      ID: 34592310
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 21:44
I'll take the 2nd spot.
33Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 23:02
Wolfer takes the 4 spot.
34Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 23:57
Holt..ease up on the other managers. If you want to point a finger at someone, it is solely yours truly who earned the recognition. I screwed up the start, all I can do is apologize and try to make it up down stream.

This should be a good, very competitive group. I am certainly looking fwd to this. And again, I'm sorry for not reading/keeping up with the posts in this thread the last week. I do know how frustrating that is.
35Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 12:03
I'll take position #11.
36StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 13:08
Here are the picks so far"
Taxman - 1st
Tree - 3rd
beastiemiked - 2nd
wolfer - 4th
Toral - 11th
Letter_J
holt
Slowhand
StLCards
Da Bomb
Smith
JTSERB
fugazi
Trip
37Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 13:42
I'll take draft position #12.
38holt
      ID: 386122123
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 15:20
draft position #5
39Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 16:51
How 'bout a 24-hour max period for draft position picks? People should know this is going on and be able to look in at least once a day, I think.

Toral
40Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 16:59
Toral - see post #15.

We will be kicking off the draft the same time as the regular RIFC August 15th. I see no need to implement a time limit at this time. Hopefully after Slowhand gets back things will pick up.
41 Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 18:00
I will be on vacation with no email access from the 13th - 18th. Any thoughts on how large of a queue I will need to build to last until I get back? Will 100 players be sufficient?
42Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 13:45
Sorry about the hold up; I will take draft position #6.
43 Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 14:16
Smith32...in several of these drafts if someone is going to be away for more than a day or two we've excanged cell #s and kept in touch that way .It's worked pretty well and let's you keep a feel of how the draft is going and adjust your strategy as it progresses,rather than a huge queue which can't be changed.
I am usually available and if you will have some kind of phone access shoot me an e-mail I'd be happy to keep in touch with you.
44StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:36
I'll take #7
45Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:06
Here are the picks so far
Taxman - 1st
beastiemiked - 2nd
Tree - 3rd
wolfer - 4th
holt - 5th
Slowhand - 6th
StLCards - 7th
Toral - 11th
Letter_J - 12th
8,9,10,13,14 available

Remaining selections.
Da Bomb
Smith
JTSERB
fugazi
Trip
46Da Bomb
      ID: 36533242
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 04:06
position #8
47Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 07:41
I'll take #9
48JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 08:13
Ill take #14
49fugazi
      ID: 50617721
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 16:31
position #10
50Tree
      ID: 14744217
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 18:44
well hell, i say we draft!
51Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 18:52
Trip...if will you please contact Fred at kafenatid.net, he is expecting to hear from you to set our league up for draft through the kafenatid draft software.


Do you intend for our league to post draft rational for early round picks??
52Tree
      ID: 2675035
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 06:54
i know we were looking to start around the same time as RIFC. but i am moving at the end of this month, and sometimes, moving renders you with no internet connection.

so, the sooner we get started, the better...for me! :o)
53Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 08:08
The RIFC starts drafting on Wed., Aug. 16 and commish Trip stated that we'll start at the same time (see post 40).

However, I sympathize with Smith32 (who will be on holidays from Aug 13-18: see post 41) and Tree (who's moving at the end of the month: see post 52) (Although Tree, I believe that at that stage of the draft, queues will be regularly used by some of us; just an option.))

Given that two of the participants have problems, the commish is going to have to make a judgment call as to the best time to start. I guess this is why the commish gets paid the big bucks :-); to make decisions like this.

For the record, although I'm stoked to start drafting, IMHO it is way too early to start now. Otherwise, someone is going to get shafted (a major injury or two almost always happens in the preseason.)
54Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 11:35
Obviously I take 13.
: (
Anyone in the front half of the draft who has second thoughts on their draft position, please let me know.

I have checked in with Kafenatid. I will get invites out to the league this weekend. Thanks again Taxman.

FYI to all, I do not have access to kafenatid at work. I therefore will not make a very good designated picker during the weekday. I also plan on making everyone in the league a designated picker for me, unless you request not to.

Smith, I sent you an e-mail, including my cell number along with some thoughts on what to do while you are away. I'm happy to help you, but let me know how I can best do that.

That being said, I am not comfortable starting the draft before August 13th. I will open up the draft then but will not start the clock until the 16th. The clock will initially be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends. People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks.

Please take a minute to review the rules on the league site. Also take a minute to think about any questions you may have. It is better to clear anything up before the draft starts.
55holt
      ID: 386122123
      Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 15:28
just a heads up. might want to change this if possible:

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 12:17 Actually, I now see that AAA#1 is league 95, although it's labeled RIBC, not RIFC.
56holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:54
just wanted to bump this thread, and ask if we are able to register at kafenatid yet.
57Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:30
e-mail with Kafenatid signup info sent.
58 JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:35
I never received the info for kafenatid... my email is jtserb@netzero.com
59Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 22:11
Resent...you're e-mail on the league site is @aol.com
60 beastiemiked
      ID: 36428317
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 12:40
I never got it either.
61Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 12:44
Resent, original went to your hotmail address. You guys may want to change the e-mail's listed at the league site.
62JTSERB
      ID: 11654269
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 13:32
Will sign up for kafenatid tonight
63JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:32
all signed up...
64Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 20:17
Would it be unreasonable for me to ask that my first pick (which will be made from a queue, since I will be away) not be made until the 16th, since there will be no clock and no one else will be obligated to pick before then? I don't want to hold up the draft, but I don't want to be at an unnecessary disadvantage either, so I just wondered what everyone else feels is fair.

Thanks.

Smith32
65JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 22:18
That is fine with me Smith... Id rather wait.
66holt
      ID: 22726517
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 05:31
no problemo. that's cool with me too.
67 Taxman
      ID: 49726922
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:51
Help

I e-mailed Trip Monday that I did not receive kafenatid sign up info...I have not heard from him.

I also have e-mailed to StLCards this week with no luck. Can anyone reach Kirk??
68Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:05
Taxman, I have sent for the 3rd time now from 2 e-mail addresses. Can someone else forward it to him? Perhaps my addresses are being blocked.
69StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:12
Taxman, I got your email and replied to it yesterday. Maybe the block is on your end?
70Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:40
I think I understand your position Smith32, just want to confirm. You will be away on the 16th, so the reason you don't want to start before that is that if we did, we would probably get back to you for rounds 2/3 by the 16th, requiring you to leave a 29-man queue if you won't be here.

Is that it?

Toral
71Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:18
Toral,

I will be gone starting the 13th, and returning on the 18th. I plan to leave a queue of at least 100 players to make sure that it doesn't run out before I get back. If my first pick (#9 overall) isn't made until the 16th, chances are I'll only have 3 or 4 picks made from the queue before I get back, which is fine. But if you start early and picks are made from my queue prior to the 16th, I might miss more than 4 rounds, and making a huge queue gets hairy once you get past 50-60 players.

I hope this answers your question. I'll be glad to clarify if it doesn't.

Thanks.

Smith32
72Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 21:03
Thanx. That makes it very clear.

Toral
73Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 15:38
Can someone check the kafenatid site and post who hasn't signed up yet?
74Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:12
Thanks for re-sending Trip. My mobile card refused to open my e-mail for the most part while Itraveled this week.

I am now in kafenatid draft for the AAA #1 league
75Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:14
Trip..

Only the league commish has the ability to see who has/hasn't signed up. The remainder of the managers only see the League Name and "not started".
76Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 08:42
BeastiemikeD is the only person remaining. I resent his invite again. If anyone has any other ways of contacting him, it would be appreciated.
77Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 09:25
The draft is open. Time limit does not kick in until Wednesday.
78Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 18:09
Re: the last part of post 51, Do you intend for our league to post draft rational for early round picks??

Trip, can you kindly chime in on this.

FWIW, I would prefer to post rationales...it is one of the things that I enjoy the most about RIFC leagues; seeing how my fellow competitors think.
79JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 18:10
Im all for rationales
80Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:29
We will be doing rationales. I will set up a thread for them at the start of the 3rd round. I encourage everyone to draft their rationale at the time of your pick. Not only will this keep the rationales from backing up, but it can also help you make a better draft decision.

There is no requirements on the length or format of the rationale, only that there is one there. The only thing that will irritate me is those who refuse to leave placeholders for there rationales after making their selection.
81Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:44
let's draft! :o)
82Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 10:45
Draft officially underway
83 holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 17:11
i'd like to change my email at the AOL site but i can't find any way to do it. maybe only the commish can do it.

I know Fugazi needs to change his e-mail too btw.
84Tree
      ID: 447151418
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:16
we're on the AOL site? hmmm...lol, i dont even remember signing up!
85beastiemiked
      ID: 36428317
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 21:01
Sorry for the hold up. Was traveling back to Texas from Missouri. Doing a little last second, second guessing. Will get my pick up in a few.
86Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 10:55
Holt[83], you can change the e-mail address yourself. From the "League Home" page, click on "My Profile". On that page you should see a link to "edit email".
87holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:22
no I can't do it from there. it shows me my e-mail, but I can't edit it. I'll keep searching but I can't find anywhere to do it from inside our league pages.
88holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:25
ahhh - I found a place where I could change it. I had to go outside of our league pages, to my AOL League Manager profile.
89Tree
      ID: 237201518
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 19:21
are we really on the AOL site?

can someone give me a link? i honestly have no recollection of signing up. lol
91Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 19:51
The AOL site looks seriously screwed up, my guess being because we have the same name as a league from a previous year. When I click on my team, it shows me already owning a whole bunch of players (not bad team, either), with the lineup last having been updated in December 05. Check on your own team and see.

Tree is in, although the best link I try to male doesn't seem to work: League standings page.

Toral
92Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 19:52
bmd's team is called, oddly, Youngroman's Luschen.
93Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 21:43
I ran a AAA league last year as well. Unless you change your team name it will be the same as last year. I just cleared out rosters. The clock will be turned on tomorrow AM. I will make Smith32's selection at that time if he is up.
94Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 08:09
Should we be picking up our own players as we draft them, as RIFC is doing?
95Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 09:34
I've made letter j a designated picker for today so that as soon as he's ready to pick he can make my pick first and then his own.

Toral
96Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 10:25
what time does the clock go on?
97Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 10:28
It should be on. Is it not?
98Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 10:32
It's not on.
99Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 10:51
I have torn my ACL and will be having surgery sometime within the next two weeks. My access may be spotty for the week after. StLCards has agreed to be a co-commissioner.

Unfortunately I cannot access Kafenatid from work. E-mail has been sent to him to turn it on.

I would also like to go ahead and encourage everyone to write out their rationales before they make their selections.

Lets continue the discussion here:

RIFC AAA#1 Draft Discussion
100FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 15:15
RIGHT AS I WAS MAKEING MY PICK THE DRAFT STOPPED. NOW I CANT MAKE A PICK AND HAVE BEEN PASSED UP?
101 StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 15:22
fugazi, send me an email
102Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 15:47
rough blow there Trip...

get well soon!
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