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Sports Challenge     CBS Sportsline     Fanball Commissioner     Sandbox     Yahoo Football     Yahoo Football Plus     Yahoo Survival Football     TX- Football 0 Subject: RIFC AAA#2 preseason discussion #1 Posted by: russelldl - [28533110] Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 15:43 Ok, here is the order in which we will select draft positions: 1.Peter N. 2.Loki 3.Electroman 4.Bonka 5.Kyle 6.Pancho Villa 7.Ref 8.Nerfherders 9.Deepsnapper 10.Promize 11.Frick 12.Wiggs 13.Russelldl 14.Bandos These are the sets of numbers I received: Kyle- 3-2-1-8-7-9-11-14-13-5-4-6-12-10 Electroman- 9-4-14-10-1-7-11-3-5-12-2-13-6-8 Let me know if there are any issues but I double checked it and I think we are correct. 1 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 15:47 by the way, I haven't finished setting up the scoring system yet so please don't depend on the AOL website for how we will score as of now. We will be going with the same rules the RIFC uses. 2 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 16:00 russell how'd you do the draft order. I thought you alphabetize the coaches's pseudonyms and then took the first group and put the alphabetized list to that set, then but the ordered set to the second set of numbers. I might be wrong but that's what i thought was done. 3 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 16:17 Kyle, I believe that the order now is to select where you want to draft. When you turn comes, you select where you want to pick in the slots available. I could be wrong though. 4 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 16:27 Yah i understood that i am just wondering how russell got that order he has cause when i checked it i got something different. i could be wrong tho. 5 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 16:34 Ok, just trying to be helpful. 6 russelldl       ID: 256142616       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 18:00 Ok I've done it again and I have the same results. Here is the alphabatical list: 1.Bandos 2.Bonka 3.Deepsnapper 4.Electroman 5.Frick 6.Kyle 7.Loki 8.Nerfherders 9.Pancho Villa 10.Peter N. 11.Promize 12.Ref 13.russelldl 14.wiggs Apply the first set and you get: 1.Deepsnapper 2.Bonka 3.Bandos 4.Promize 5.Peter N. 6.Ref 7.Frick 8.Electroman 9.Kyle 10.wiggs 11.Loki 12.russelldl 13.Pancho Villa 14.Nerfherders Apply the second list and you end up with: 1.Peter N. 2.Loki 3.Electroman 4.Bonka 5.Kyle 6.Pancho Villa 7.Ref 8.Nerfherders 9.Deepsnapper 10.Promize 11.Frick 12.Wiggs 13.Russelldl 14.Bandos Does that seem correct or have I made a mistake? 7 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 18:29 "I will accept the first two that are emailed to me from 2 different RIBC managers. The first set will resequence an alphabetized list of the team names as currently registered at Yahoo. The second set will assign the draft order. After I receive two sets of numbers, I will post the results here." per guru from ribc. I think you have it right. 14th, well at least I get a huge convenience factor! 9 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 18:39 Wow I am glad I am not commish cause I did something wrong when checking but I am not sure what. Thanks Russell. 10 Peter N.       ID: 2261811       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 19:05 Haha figures that I get the number 1 selection on where to pick and there is no clear-cut number 1 this year. I'll have to think about where I want to pick for a bit. 11 Peter N.       ID: 2261811       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 21:44 Oh wth, give me number 1. :-) 12 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 22:12 We used KKB's On the Clock for the RIBC AAA 2006 Pacific Coast League draft instead of the message board and were all pleased with it. If the league would like to use it, I will volunteer to register the league and pay for it (It's $10). Any idea when we will be starting the draft? Obviously we need to agree on league parameters first. I need to know as I will be on vacation and most likely without internet access from Thursday 8/3 AM-Monday 8/10 PM. 13 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 22:14 Whoops, Monday 8/7. 14 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 22:23 I won't have internet access this weekend so hopefully the draft order will get to me before friday morning when I leave. 15 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 01:20 I second On The Clock. 16 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 09:30 I'm cool with using On The Clock also, I haven't used it yet but I've heard nothing but good things so far. We've got 3 owners now for it, I say if we can get 7 total on board then we should go ahead and do it. I need to put the breaks on things for at least a few hours this morning because we have a small issue that needs to be worked out. I left Slackjawed Yokel off the list by accident and he qualified and he asked in early on. So I'm going to try and figure out the most equittable solution before we move forward, any suggestions would be appreciated. I'll keep everyone updated but lets hold off on picking draft spots until this is cleared up. 17 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 11:22 I also left Bags off the list (I've figured out the issue and those were the only two, there wont be more coming out of the woodwork). So we need to fix this situation. The unfortunate solution that I think is most obvious is to bump the last two guys who came into the league (Peter F. and Ref) down to AA. And I think we would then need to re-do the draft order process from scratch. That's my suggestion, I'll allow everyone some time to comment and make suggestion and we'll go with whatever the consensus is. I won't put a specific deadline on this but I would like to wait until monday to move forward in whatever fashion we decide to. That way everyone has ample opportunity to speak their mind. And I apologize for the screw up. It was completely my fault. 18 Peter N.       ID: 2261811       Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 13:09 russelldl, I'll step down. No worries. Hope you all have a good year! 19 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 14:45 The clock sounds good to me. 'specially if its free for me :) The random numbers should still be fine. I don't see a reason to redo those. I wouldn't change my set if there were 2 different names in the league and I doubt Electroman would. I'll let you figure out the draft order since when I checked it I was completly off. 20 BoNkA       ID: 466222810       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 11:22 KBB is fine with me. I may have missed it, but I didn't see anything as to when our draft positions had to be selected. I haven't looked at anything for fantasy football yet and will probably need to do so soon and figure out my drafting. 21 FRICK       ID: 345202714       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 12:28 KKB is great, I'm all for it. Actually KKB will work perfectly for me 22 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 13:38 Here is the current status of the league: -Things are on hold until Monday morning because of a mix up by me about who was supposed to be in the league. -We haven't selected draft order yet, expect that to begin on Monday. -As soon as the order is selected, and the rules are officially finalized, we'll be ready to start drafting. -I wouldnt want to start drafting before the real RIFC and I don't know their time table. But I would assume we would start drafting next week. -I think its pretty obvious that we should use KKB's on the clock. Everyone seems in favor. Hope that answers everything. 23 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 16:57 Frick-Re: Your post #45 on the Football Fotrum. I am not certain, but I think that last year Guru was able to do something through his site that enabled managers who had problems using On the Clock at work to utilize it. Anyone else recall this? 24 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 17:09 Russelldl- I think that it would be better if you as the Commish registered the league with On the Clock. Then let me know the address, and I'll send KKB a check. Thanks.-l 25 deepsnapper       Sustainer       ID: 017103420       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 21:10 Just to chime in, Fred's OTC draft software works great. Hard to identify some of the usernames on Kaffinated sometimes lol. 26 FRICK@the in-laws       ID: 47281916       Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 21:24 I think Guru took the Draft Recap and Position Board and posted them on Rotoguru.com for those who could access Rotoguru.com and not Kafenatid.net. I was able to get to Kafenatid so I should be good to go. 27 Promize       ID: 141018197       Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 18:22 Any emails been going out other then the first one to join the league? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything important. I don't use AOL for anything other then AIM 28 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 10:53 Hi guys, This message will be posted on the boards and sent out as emails to each of you. To answer Promize's question, this is the only email that's been sent out other than the invite to the league. Please make occasional checks of the message boards. I will try to keep sending out updates by email but I don't want to fill up everyone's inboxes. The first issue that I need to address is league membership. As I'm sure you know I accidentally left out a couple of teams that were qualified for AAA this years. Unfortunately, in order to rectify the situation I am bumping Ref and Peter N. down to AA and Bags and Slackjawed Yokel are added in their place. They will be inserted into the respective vacated spots in the draft order. I flipped a coin to determine which of them would receive Peter N.'s number 1 slot and the winner was Yokel. So Yokel gets the 1st selection for order and Bags gets the 7th. The final list for selecting draft positions is as follows: 1.Slackjawed Yokel 2.Loki 3.Electroman 4.Bonka 5.Kyle 6.Pancho Villa 7.Bags 8.Nerfherders 9.Deepsnapper 10.Promize 11.Frick 12.Wiggs 13.Russelldl 14.Bandos Bags, Slackjawed Yokel, and Nerfherders are the only teams who haven't signed in on the AOL page. If you need a new invite or the league name or password or any assistance, send me an email. New invites will be sent out to all three later this morning just to be sure they get them. We will use the On The Clock system over on Kafenatid.net. I will set that up immediately following this email. I believe we need everyone to register with that website. I will send out another email once I've got us set up over there. And thanks to Loki for covering our $10 fee. The rules section on the AOL site is not complete yet so be sure to check the message boards for the most current rules. We will use the same rules as the RIFC. There are some important rule changes so please check out the RIFC preseason discussion thread and make yourselves aware of them. Lets go ahead and begin picking draft order on the board. Yokel, you have first choice. We need to get everyone signed into the league and into On The Clock this week. With that in mind, and considering that some folks don't have internet access over the weekend, I’m setting the draft to begin one week from today, Monday Aug. 7 at 10am est. That should give us more than enough time to have our order together and everything ready to roll. And that still leaves ample time to get us through the draft before the season starts on Sept. 7. Ok, I think I covered all of the bases here but if not, feel free to email me at either russelldl@hotmail.com or russelldl2002@yahoo.com. Later Dave aka russelldl 29 Slackjawed Yokel       Leader       ID: 052347519       Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 19:28 I'll take the 1st pick. And thanks for getting the mixup straightened out, russelldl (and Pete...). 30 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 20:20 2nd pick 31 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 20:47 3rd Pick 32 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 09:48 k I just registered with Kafenatid and now am waiting to make my draft spot. Bonka just a reminder you are up to pick your spot. 33 BoNkA       ID: 5579110       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 11:09 I'll take the 5th pick. 34 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 13:53 I really had to put some thought into this one. I'll take the 14th and final spot 35 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 14:08 Just a reminder, please sign up on the AOL league and on the kafenatid site if you haven't already. Also, the big RIFC and AAA! are both starting their drafts on Aug 15th. If most people would prefer to go with that day also, I'll move it. Otherwise I'll stay with Monday morning. Post your thoughts here. russelldl 36 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:13 I will be on vacation and away from ready internet access from 9/2-9/20. If we start on 8/7, the draft should be completed before then, and therefore I would vote to start on 8/7. I'll find someone to handle my team while I am away, and I will leave a queue for my 1st round pick as I will not be around from 8/3 until late on 8/7. 37 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:23 I'd be glad to take a queue for you Loki. I don't think you can put one into OTC yet but obviously I can do that for you also. 38 FRICK       ID: 345202714       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:39 I'm going to be travelling on 8/15 and in training all day on the 16th through the 19th. I should be able to check in morning and evenings and don't have a problem leaving queues, but probably not for more than 2 rounds at a time. I would prefer to start at the same time as the RIFC and AAA#1. 39 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:54 ok, that's one vote for each so far. By the way, frick, you haven't signed into the league on AOL yet. You are the last one. Just a friendly reminder. 40 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:15 I'd prefer to start on the 15th with RIFC and AAA#1 41 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:27 Makes no difference to me when we start. 42 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 17:27 If we start on the 15th, do you think we could finish before 9/2? 43 Bags @ work       ID: 586212721       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 18:15 I like the 15th also. I could use some more time to get ready for the draft. 44 deepsnapper       Sustainer       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 20:25 FYI - you can send a queue via OTC, you just can't make it pick automatically. You have to assign whom you want to be your "Designated Picker" and then send them the queue of players. The commish is automatically a Designated Picker for everyone. I'd prefer the 15th as a start date also. we can set a clock with a designated sleep time or something to keep the draft moving if time becomes an issue. 45 Promize       ID: 141018197       Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 21:04 Whenever is fine, I'll be at work i'm sure throughout the draft so will have to use someone to take my queues. think I had a crappy draft spot last year also in this... 46 deepsnapper       Sustainer       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 12:43 Pancho's up for his pick selection. 47 wiggs       ID: 49627289       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 13:24 I am not sure we will finish if we wait tilt he 15th? If you think we can do it that date is fine with me. 48 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 13:30 Do most people have access on the weekend? My reason for asking is if we would start on the 11th, it would give us the weekend to start the first rounds. People might have a little more time to research their early round picks if they are at home. Just a suggestion. 49 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 13:30 Last year we finished on September 4th and started on Aug. 16. The first game is September 7th this year so we should be fine. 50 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 14:02 we do have a few extra rounds this year. 51 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 14:21 How long are we making the pick limits? I believe that they were 8 hours last year. Maybe we could make them 6 this year if there is the worry that we would run out of time? 52 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 14:33 6th pick 53 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 14:37 Kyle, Check out the RIBC pre season discussion on the main football forum. One of the last posts by guru describes the time limits. 54 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 16:09 I think that we should try to finish the draft before Labor Day weekend whether we begin on 8/7 or 8/14 to accomodate managers who may be away then. For me personally the earlier date is better as I will be out of the country the 1st 2 weeks in September and finding an internet cafe at the right time is not always possible. Additionally I did not pay much attention to the rule change and did not realize that there are 3 more rounds this year. Because of this I think that starting earlier makes sense. As far as the clock goes I would vote for a 6 hour clock 7 days a week stopped between 11 PM and 7AM EDT. We could shorten the clock towards the end of the draft if necessary. In any event I'll send Russelldl my queue for my round one pick. 55 Promize       ID: 141018197       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 21:42 can we get an update on who has taken what pick etc? Looks to be all scattered all over the place and not everyone has picked.... some picked out of line? 56 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 23:20 Promize here you go. Could we speed this up? The faster we get going the faster we start drafting. Picks taken: 1.Slackjawed Yokel 2.Loki 3.Electroma 4. 5.Bonka 6.Pancho Villa 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12 13. 14. Kyle Remaining Pickers: 1.Bags 2.Nerfherders 3.Deepsnapper 4.Promize 5.Frick 6.Wiggs 7.Russelldl 8.Bandos 57 Bags @ work       ID: 586212721       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 23:34 I'll take the 12th pick. 58 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 23:59 Picks taken: 1. Slackjawed Yokel 2. Loki 3. Electroma 4. 5. Bonka 6. Pancho Villa 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. Bags 13. 14. Kyle Remaining Pickers: 1.Nerfherders 2.Deepsnapper 3.Promize 4.Frick 5.Wiggs 6.Russelldl 7.Bandos 59 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 17:41 Russelldl - I sent you 2 picks as I'm going to be out this evening. I hope that's okay. 60 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 09:11 Does Nerfherders know he is up? Should someone advise him? 61 Nerfherders       ID: 501035289       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 11:00 Pick 7 please. 62 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 12:27 I'll take #4 then. Promize is up 63 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 12:39 Picks taken: 1. Slackjawed Yokel 2. Loki 3. Electroman 4. Deepsnapper 5. Bonka 6. Pancho Villa 7. Nerfherders 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. Bags 13. 14. Kyle Remaining Pickers: 1.Promize 2.Frick 3.Wiggs 4.Russelldl 5.Bandos 64 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 13:31 i wil be away from the computer til atleast 9 so if my pick comes up just give me the best available pick. Thanks wiggs 65 Promize       ID: 141018197       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 18:22 I'll take 13th. 66 russelldl       ID: 4274849       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 19:05 I'm going out of town this weekend so I'm not sure if I'll be here for my pick. I'm not leaving until tomorrow AM so hopefully I'll be around for it. If not, I'll take the highest available pick. As for draft date, it looks like the consensus is for moving it to the 16th (I know I said 15th but guru had the date wrong, so it would be 16th). I'm pretty sure we will be able to get the draft done without any problem. We can always adjust clock times in the later rounds if we need to. But with OTC I think we should be fine. 67 FRICK@the in-laws       ID: 47281916       Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 22:57 I'll take the 8th spot. Going by wiggs' post in 64 he wanted 9th, I'll let him update that, since he should be around by now. So the list goes as follows: Picks taken: 1. Slackjawed Yokel 2. Loki 3. Electroman 4. Deepsnapper 5. Bonka 6. Pancho Villa 7. Nerfherders 8. Frick 9. Wiggs 10. 11. 12. Bags 13. Promize 14. Kyle Remaining Pickers: 1.Russelldl 2.Bandos 68 russelldl       ID: 4274849       Sat, Aug 05, 2006, 00:36 If wiggs does want 9th, I'll take 10th, leaving bandos with 11th. 69 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Sat, Aug 05, 2006, 00:56 yeah, 9th is good. 70 russelldl       ID: 4274849       Sat, Aug 05, 2006, 09:02 1. Slackjawed Yokel 2. Loki 3. Electroman 4. Deepsnapper 5. Bonka 6. Pancho Villa 7. Nerfherders 8. Frick 9. Wiggs 10. russelldl 11. bandos 12. Bags 13. Promize 14. Kyle there's your final draft order. We are going to start drafting on Aug 16th so be ready. I still need Frick to sign in to AOL and Nerf to sign in to kafenatid.com and then we'll have everything set up. I'm gone for the weekend. 71 Kyle upstairs       ID: 417461123       Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:49 Russell I will be going in for minor surgury (tooth implant) on Tuesday, August 15. I am not sure how drugged I will still be when I get home, but if we could start the draft sometime this week without a clock and try to get as many picks as we can before the Aug. 16th date and then start the clock for the rest of the rounds. I think that can allievate some stress about the latter rounds going into the season start. If that's not possible with Kafenatid well then I am sorry for the poor suggestion! 72 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 18:29 I think that is a good idea. Most people have an idea of their first or second pick. 73 Kyle upstairs       ID: 417461123       Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 18:35 Another reason I'd like to do this is I am unfamiliar with Kafenatid and would like to see it in action before the clock actually starts. 74 GoatLocker       Sustainer       ID: 060151121       Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 18:50 Kyle, I would be more than happy to answer any questions about On The Clock. Cliff 75 BoNkA       ID: 973810       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 11:03 Starting early without a clock is fine with me. Just please email me of any happenings as I sometimes forget to check the forum here for a few days at a time. 76 FRICK       ID: 345202714       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 11:29 I don't have a problem with starting the draft prior to the 15th/16th, as long as we don't start the clock and everyone understands that it could be slow moving, but hopefully not. 77 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 12:39 You can "take a peek" at drafts in progress on Kaffinated. Once the draft starts, it's pretty self-explanitory at that point. FWIW, Goatlocker & I have drafted in leagues that've used the site since it's inception and KKB has come a long way with it since then. Hopefully we can assist anyone that has any questions about the site or get them in contact with Fred (KKB). He's always quick to respond if there is any issues to be resolved. I'm fine with starting early, I too have a few things going right now and would need a heads up when it's time to pick is all. 78 russelldl       ID: 46717812       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 13:55 I don't mind starting early, but we can't start until Nerfherders signs into Kafenatid. I can't set the draft order until then. 79 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:04 Starting early without a clock would be fine. 80 Bags @ work       ID: 4675419       Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:26 I'm fine with starting early. 81 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 16:43 Ok, draft is open and will be without a clock until 8/16 at 10amEST. Good luck! Yokel has the first pick. 82 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 22:07 Pick #2 made. 83 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:36 Is anyone else having trouble getting onto kafenatid? Just wondering if it's me or them? 84 Promize       ID: 141018197       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:41 Early this morning I wasn't able to get onto it for a different draft. Now late tonigh same problem. I'm sure he is working hard on it, but it does seem to be having some issues keeping stable last few days. 85 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:05 I don't know if it's me be impatient to make a pick since I've been looking forward to this draft all offseason (this is the most competitive league I am involved in) but can we try to keep this moving. I like the fact that we had 7 picks yesturday, but none so far today. I'll be at the WSox-Yanks game tonight so I won't be able to check in until then. I have an 8 person q, but I have a feeling that it will be used up quite quickly. Maybe the draft won't get to be before I get back and if that's the case I'll reload my q back up. 86 FRICK       ID: 345202714       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:25 Well since weren't technically supposed to start until the 15th/16th, we could be waiting a long while. Since I'm currently on deck I understand the feeling. 87 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:49 I totally understand the feeling, nothing like checking to see if you are up every hour and nothing. Anyone have any interest in trading for my pick, maybe something like my 1 and 5 for your 2 and 3. Something like because I need to see where your pick is in the 2 and 3. 88 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:00 wiggs I'd give my 3& 4 for you first and 5th 89 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:03 or for your 1st and 6th 90 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:38 errored out inside of Kaffinaed and now timing out. sending the error message to Fred. phpBB : Critical Error Error updating sessions table DEBUG MODE SQL Error : 1030 Got error 30 from storage engine UPDATE phpbb_sessions SET session_time = 1155253878, session_page = 0 WHERE session_id = '63bccc524722f9320c24a664b12fdc5a' Line : 350 File : sessions.php 91 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:58 kyle, both those trades have you favored severly. My 1 and 6 for your 2 and 3, have you favored by 1 point. I would be willing to do that i think, but that would be the best i could do. 92 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 22:38 OTC's back up and running. per KKB's correspondence: The server's had some "trailing issues," as they're calling them, since the hardware upgrade. Hopefully, the worst is behind us. I'm out for the nite anyway. 93 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:00 I am going to be gone this weekend and won't be back until Sunday Night. I'll leave a q set up but I am not sure if it'll get to me or not. Sorry if it causes a delay 94 Nerfherders       ID: 64532914       Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 13:19 Sorry... When I first got the email kafenatid wasnt working, then I was away from a computer all day and by then I forgot about it. 95 FRICK       ID: 541092420       Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 20:09 Wiggs is up and has a queue set up. I would recommend not using it until Wiggs decides if he is trading out of the pick or if he makes the pick himself. 96 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 23:40 I'm still on vacation, have access in the house but not at the beach :). I will make russell and homer pickers for me. I will use the Q as much as possible. I will pick soon. Bandos 97 Promize       ID: 141018197       Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 07:12 Small queue set, i'll be golfing today. Deepsnapper is my picker 98 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 16:36 Promize's pick made. TO off the board. 99 Promize       ID: 141018197       Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 22:07 Kyle said he had a queue setup, is someone in our league his designated picker? If not, we are on hold till late Sunday Night. 100 russelldl       ID: 42738917       Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 22:30 my fault on the kyle delay. I didnt realize I was his DP and I was waiting for him also. Sorry. 101 russelldl       ID: 42738917       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 03:52 I've got a queue set for my pick when it comes around. I made wiggs and promize my DPs. russelldl 102 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 19:00 I'd assume #96 is still in effect for Bandos. If he has a queue, homer or russelldl can use it. If the queue is empty, no players will display in OTC. 103 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 19:10 OK I am back in town. Sorry I didn't know I had to set up a designated picker with my queue, I had a friend of mine watching the draft for me while I was gone. Russelldl thanks for making the pick, my friend must have missed checking before that. I'll be here for the remains of the draft tho so don't worry about me. 104 russelldl       ID: 42738917       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 19:13 Bandos must not have a queue set up or it isnt available because there's no one listed as his next pick. 105 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:28 Russelldl r we gonna do draft rationals? If so how many rounds should we wait until we do them? 106 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 23:39 Sorry that there was a delay. I did/do have a Q! Russell and Homer are listed as designated pickers! I just checked. Ofcourse what I didn't do was make my Q AVAILABLE. I'll pick shortly. 107 russelldl       ID: 42738917       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 07:01 Usually we do rationales starting in the 3rd round I believe. I think we may want to hold off a little longer in this case so we aren't doing them the same time the other rifc leagues are drafting. 108 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:40 I'm leaving for work shortly and will be gone all day. Anyone around today that can be my designated picker? 109 wiggs       ID: 5773997       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:42 i am here 110 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 13:11 Just a heads up, Team 10 has yet to register for the league. I am not sure who that is, Russell you can prolly find out through the commish duties. 111 russelldl       ID: 327341414       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 15:35 I'm aware. Its frick. 112 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:13 Sorry about the delay, just got in from work. Will set a queue for next rounds. 113 BoNkA       ID: 277421420       Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 21:42 Boo on my first round pick already being hurt. 115 Frick       ID: 337141423       Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 22:30 Russel, can you send me the AOL info to my gmail account again (adfrick) I was hoping to log into AOL from my home computer last weekend, but my home computer decided to die instead. If I can't remember my AOL username, I'll just have to create a new one. Sorry for all of the delays guys. I've set up a small queue for my next pick, I'll add to it tomorrow morning if my pick tonight gets made. 116 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 22:28 is anyone else having a hard time with this draft? it is round 5 and I dont have a clear cut choice out there that I like. I am not used to that. 117 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 23:33 I just took a look at the draft grid. The team drafting second, jphlkh, looks very solid early. What is this manager's Rotoguru handle? 118 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 23:35 Ok, found it. Loki 119 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 13:32 Promize has a queue set up, but w/o instructions I am reluctant to use it. 121 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 13:42 Reading back to #45, I'll go ahead and make his pick. 122 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 14:39 promize has a queue set up but I dont know if he wants a pick made for him. I'm going to give him some time before I make the pick for him. Deepsnapper, do you have any instructions from him? 123 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 15:01 nope, I read post #45 to mean that he's at work during the day and doesn't have access. I made the Delhomme pick, but as short as his queue is I'd be hesitant to make RD 6. w/o more clarification. 124 Bags @ work       ID: 97491714       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 15:49 I will not be able to draft until after 10pm so I am going to leave a few people as DP's. Thanks! 125 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 16:17 If a Q is AVAILABLE, the assumption is that designated pickers SHOULD go ahead and pick. Thus the option of maing it UNAVAILABLE. If you want to leave a Q for only ONE pick then you should post here or inform your designated pickers. That is my understanding of how the system works BEST. 126 Nerfherders       ID: 501035289       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 16:59 Should we start rationales now? 127 Promize       ID: 141018197       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 18:06 Sorry all, but yah, was at work and like I said... Almost impossible to go to a site like Kafe. Today you probably could of picked anyone from my queue in the order and it would of been fine.. But atlast once I got home I changed my mind to go a different direction. :) 128 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 21:17 I agree with your assessment bandos. I was just in that similar draft spot in another draft and I know its tough when you leave a Q for the first pick and it comes right back around your way. I wont be asking anymore, I just wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. I'll start a rationale thread. Please keep them in order. Since we are so far behind, lets just try to get them up as fast as we can. Please put in a place marker even if you arent going to post something. 129 Promize       ID: 141018197       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 21:34 ^^^^^ Unfortunately, if I am at work, just going to have to wait for me to post my rationale.. Another website I won't be able to come to while at work :( Damn rules... 130 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 22:29 What is a rationale? This is my first time, so be gentle:) 131 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 23:13 Example of rationales from RIFC 132 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 10:12 I am a bit confused what the starting roster requirements are. can someone please list the positions? 133 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 10:39 I'm going to be on the road from Baltimore to Cleveland most of the day. I've left a queue that should cover my picks for rounds 7 and 8. 134 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 10:40 Here ya go wiggs: Roster 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Team def 1 DL 1 LB 1 DB 3 additional IDP (flex) 9 bench 24 Total 135 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:13 Could someone help me? I am trying to post my rationale, but I can't take it off bold. What is the key that has to be typed in? Thanks. 136 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:23 I'm headed to the mountains for camping. The good news is the mountains are minutes away and I'll sneak home tomorrow . I'm going to add Russell and Bandos as deignated pickers, if that's OK. 137 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:24 use the (/b) after the stuff you don't want bolded where <> replaces the () in the HTML text and / turns off the instruction and in this case stops bolding. 138 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:25 Thanks, I thought it was the back slash, had it in the wrong place. 139 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:27 no problemo 140 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 17:44 The following Rationale format is in part copied from the 2006 RIFC draft rationale thread. As a moderator I can made changes to our thread should anyone want to add/revise the initial postings. If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale. 3. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc. The general format should be: 1.01 Priest Holmes - RB, KC Several sentences of rationale. As part of your first round rationale, please comment on your selection of draft sequence. 141 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 18:10 You want us to include why we choose to pick where we did? 142 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 18:28 well, its not me, its what Guru requested as part of the first round rationale. I can add it in if you just want to post it here and I'll move it over to the rationale thread. The "why you chose the spot" is a new caveat that Guru added this year to the rationales that I just noticed myself when I was the format for posting a "placeholder" to tell you the truth. It's not something anyone has to do. 143 FRICK@the in-laws       ID: 47281916       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 23:04 I apologize for the long delays guys. I've been travelling since 1PM and haven't had net access since 7:30AM. I added players to my queue last night, but forgot to set it to available. Again, sorry and hopefully I'll have regular net access starting Monday when I get back to work. 144 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 23:50 According to the following copied from our AOL league site the starting lineup consists of 13 players. Post #134 indicates 15 starters. Help!?!? Game 1 Starting Lineup New York Titans (0-0-0) Rank Usage FP All Pos Own Start Pos Player, Team Opp Inj Avg - Cannot start less than 1 QB. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 2 RB. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 3 WR. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 TE. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 PK. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 Def. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 DL. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 LB. Selected: 0 - Cannot start less than 1 DB. Selected: 0 -. Starting lineup incomplete by 13 players. 145 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:01 loki - the IDP (flex) was changed from 1 to 3 this year in the RIFC 2006: pre-season discussion post #193 has the final rules. 146 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:03 To be added to rationale. I choose to pick in the third spot because if I didn't, I would have regretted it. I had the chance to be in position to get a great RB, and jumped at it. 147 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:08 done E-man ds 148 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:09 Thanks 149 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 11:52 I can move any rationales that are posted in this thread over to the Rationale thread that have been "placeholdered". Promize is up for Round 2.02 rationale in the regular order of things. BoNkA - my bad on my 1.04 rationale. It's been so long since we drafted round 1, I thought Portis was injured. They say the mind is the 3rd thing to go and I've forgotten the other 2. 150 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 15:45 I left an 8 player queue with 5 managers at OTC, but please use this only for my pick #8.13. Is anyone available to take a queue for #9.02 in case I am back home in time? THANKS!! 151 Nerfherders       ID: 64532914       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 15:59 Rationale: 1.07 Rudi Johnson. The big boys were taken and we were solidly into tier 1.5 on RB's. Johnson has been solidly consistent if not spectacular, and will quietly put up good numbers week in and week out. James was an option here but I dont like the O-line in Arizona very much. I picked 7th because I like picking in middle of the round, I get to pick consistently every 14 or 15 and I dont miss out on any runs. 152 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 16:38 1.07 moved Nerfherders 153 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 22:09 Rationale 1.11 Ronnie Brown, RB, MIA I had the 16th choice so 11th was what fell to me. I have played in 3 previous leagues (2 AA leagues in 2004 and the RIBC last year) and have drafted in the same basic spot every time so I am used to it. I won both AA leagues regular season and eeked into the playoffs in the RIBC last year so I knew that I could compete from here. I was weak at RB last year and have been converted to having a stable of RB. I thought I would end up with Parker and Westbrook, which would have been fine, but Ronnie Brown fell a bit here or the hype is just that. Great coach, much better QB situation, solid receivers, as a Pats fan Miami is VERY worrisome. Seen him as high as 5th in mock drafts, cheatsheets, projections, etc. Let's hope he lives up to it. 154 Promize       ID: 141018197       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 05:23 This is one incredibly slow draft... anyway we can speed it up? We have 16 rounds to get through and we 18 days till first game... The rate of 1 round every other day is not going to get us there in time. People really need to start using their buddy system and leaving queues and moving this faster... 155 FRICK@the in-laws       ID: 47281916       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 08:47 1.08 Peyton Manning I took a long time to decide between Ronnie Brown and Peyton with this pick. Brown should be a stud this year, but I knew that Manning wouldn't make it back to me and with Edge gone I can see the Colts throwing the ball much more often. 2.07 Julius Jones With taking a QB in Round 1 I have to take a RB here. Jones was by far the highest rated player here. Hopefully TO will help stretch the field and open up running lanes. The reason Jones was still available here is his injury history. If he can stay health he is a Round 1 pick. We'll see. 3.08 Joseph AddaiI needed a second RB, as a Colts fan I hope that Addai has something close to Edge's rookie season. Since Addai is a better blocking back than (recently drafted player) I hope that he gets more playing time. My season tied closely to the Colts. If Manning goes down Addai loses tremendous value. 4.06 Deion Branch If Branch wasn't holding out I would guess he would be gone by this point. I'm hoping that he gets back into camp. At this point my team appears to be held together by string and bubblegum. 5.08 Rod Smith I needed a 2nd WR, Smith is getting older, but continues to put up good numbers. Hopefully he can continue to do that this year. The addition of a 2nd legitimate WR should help. 6.06 Heath Miller I'm hoping that Miller takes a big step up this year. With the changes in the PIT rushing and receiving game Miller should get more looks and hopefully plenty of red zone looks. 156 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 09:41 Re:154-The best way to speed up the draft is to shorten the interval between picks.-l 157 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 11:15 Rationales moved Bandos - 1.11 Ronnie Brown, Frick - 1.08 Peyton Manning russelldl - do we need to start a new thread and get out of "preseason"? and has loki's point about # of IDP Flex players at AOL in #144 been addressed? 158 loki       ID: 5732017       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 18:11 Deepsnapper- You are correct. Since we are using the same rules as RIFC, there are 3 flex IDPs. However the roster grid at AOL may need modification. Comments...-l 159 Bags       Donor       ID: 246103120       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 18:20 Rationale I wanted to draft towards an end. My choices came down to #4 or #12. I decided to go with #12 for the opportunity to draft a stud WR along with a RB ranked in the top 12. 1.12 LaMont Jordan,RB,Oak I was surprised to see Jordan fall down to me at 12. I had no reservations about taking him here. I think with Art Shell the Raiders will be a "three yards and a cloud of dust" type running team. Jordan doesn't seem have any competition behind him. So I've got that going for me, which is nice. 2.03 Steve Smith,WR, Car A stud who should score plenty. Please stay healthy! 160 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 21:54 1.06 Steven Jackson,RB,Rams Likely to get at least 10 more touches per game this year, including more passes, sans Faulk. I'm not partial to draft position, so the middle is fine for me. 161 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 06:12 Please only use the queue for this round please. Thanks. 163 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 08:49 Bandos is up in the Rationale thread at 2.04 PV & Bags - #159-60 were moved over this AM. 164 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 11:50 Hey guys, Sorry I havent responded to the question about flex positions. I've been out of town since friday and I've been trying to make sure my queues were set up with the minimal amount of internet access that I had. But to make sure things are cleared up, there will be 6 IDP spots, one DL, one LB, one DB, and three flex spots. Same as RIFC. If you go all the way back up to post 1, I mentioned that I havent set up the AOL rules completely so don't go by those. Use the official RIFC rules. Also, I read Deepsnapper's request for a new thread. Would everyone like a new one? My only hesitation is I don't want any confusion during the draft (i.e. someone posting about when to use their queue but it gets posted in the old thread). Someone pipe up and if folks want a new one started, that's cool. Finally, we are moving pretty slowly through the draft, but believe it or not, we are on pace to finish on time. But barely. Our avg. pick time is getting shorter and shorter so it seems like we should be fine. But if by next monday (8/28), its questionable whether we are going to make it, I propose we switch to a 4 hour clock. Please post your thoughts on that idea. Keep in mind, kafenatid gives me a couple of stats about our speed and currently we are on pace to get done on time. I know it seems like we are taking forever but we got an early start and we shouldnt have any problems. 165 Promize       ID: 141018197       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 12:40 I think you could change the clock now, we are down to picks that really don't need that much research in my opinion... Things should be going really fast at this point... 166 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 13:18 russeldl - you're up for Rd 2 in the rationales I'm going to post Electroman's Rd 10. pick per #161. 167 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 14:30 STOP DRAFT!!!! I used Electroman's OTC queue for the 11th round before reading this thread. Sorry!! 168 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 14:53 Loki - made me think about saying what Dan Aykroyd used to say to Jane when they were doing the news on SNL back in the day. ;) 169 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 15:31 I erased that pick and electro man is back on the clock. I'll post my rationale on the other thread but in the mean time here is my round 1 to be moved over: 1.10, Carnell Williams, RB, TB I went with the cadillac because he was one of the few true feature backs still left. He will lose some TDs with Alstott back but Gruden will ride this kid until the wheels fall off. Hopefully they stay on all year. There has also been talk that TB is working to get williams more involved in the passing game which would greatly improve his value and his TD potential. As for my draft spot, I only had 2 choices left so I took the highest pick. I think it worked out well because I think there was a drop off in value of first rounders after this point. 170 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:02 russelldl - 1.10, Carnell Williams, rationale moved over. 171 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:41 I've got a queue set up in case I'm not available on Tues. morning. The queue is only for the 11th round. 172 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:44 Why haven't the rationales moved in 8 hours? 173 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 05:59 I left a queue that can be used for both rounds if it gets to me. If it is used, please don't pick the same position twice, go down to the next highest if it the case. Thanks. 175 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 09:41 Pancho Villa - re #172 good question. wiggs is up. He hasn't posted his Rd 1 rationale either so at this point a placeholder is definately warranted. We're so far behind it's krazy. 176 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 10:09 I posted a placeholder for wiggs & move 2.07 for FRICK. Nerfherders is up for 2.08 followed by PV. Note for future reference. Please doesn't post multiple rounds of rationales in advance of the actual thread unless you're going to be MIA. No one has been skipped at this point. 177 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:24 In the spirit of keeping rationales going, I'm going to put a placemark for BoNkA and post mine. He can post his Rd 2 here and it'll be moved over. 178 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:49 Based on Electroman's post in #173, I'm going to put a placemark for him to keep the rationales moving. He can post his Rd 2 here and it'll be moved over. loki is up for Rationale 2.13 Torry Holt 179 BoNkA       ID: 27242212       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 13:24 2.10 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI I went with Fitzgerald after Smith was off the board because I think he has the best situation out of the top WR. I looked at Chad Johnson at this spot too, but with Palmer not being a sure thing I decided to go with Fitzgerald since Warner can still play well enough, especially with the addition of James. I also like that teams can't solely bear down on Fitzgerald since Boldin is there. How this will play out I'm not sure, since I easily could have went with Johnson, Harrison, or Holt. I just went with my gut feeling. 180 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:30 2.10 Larry Fitzgerald moved to rationale thread. Slackjawed Yokel's up in rationales. 181 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:42 This is kind of sad. We are 2 round ahead of the AAA #1 and yet they are on round 7 for rationals. We need to step up the rationals. 182 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:50 Also... WHO HOO! Promize missed his pick so I got to pick one pick in advance! Sorry, it didn't happen for me last year. 183 Nerfherders       ID: 501035289       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:16 Yeah a draft isnt supposed to move faster than the rationales. I say if youre here and your rationale is 3 away or less placehold the others and do it. 184 FRICK       ID: 345202714       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:24 I'm not trying to cheat promize out of his picks, but I thought if you missed your pick the subsequent pick was skipped right away? I'm not voicing an opinion one way or the other, just asking the question. What is our current estimated completion date? 185 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:50 I'm not aware of that rule frick but if you can find it for me in the rules I'll move past him. (I would look it up myself but I'm a little busy at work right now) Our current estimated end date is 9/6. The day before the season, but that is consistently coming down (until today) because our first few rounds were before the clock and very slow. I think we definitely will need to go to the 4 hour clock, its just a matter of when. 186 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:12 we should finish in time to at least have one chance at a run through the waiver wire process in case someone wants to change the bottom of their draft due to late minute roster moves/injures etc. If that means the clock needs to speed up, it needs to speed up. As far as Promise's Rd 11 pick goes, he's been skipped and can make it up at any time. Kyle should be up for 12.01 and then Promize's clock will start on 12.02. I've played all 3 years of RIFC and thats how I know it to be. I'll check with Guru, but it's Kyles pick IMO. 187 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:15 I took my 12.01 pick already. So it worked it's way back to promize. Can you delete my 12.01 pick now so it's not seen by promize if i was wrong taking it. thanks! 188 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:19 The que management system KKB has devised is something that should be utilized more, IMO, to keep these slow drafts going. I kind of got bit in the ass this past weekend while camping, since I had 2 linebackers in a row picked(three players on my que between them were picked). Still, for being away from a computer for 48 hours, that's a small price to pay. Besides, if I didn't want that guy, he shouldn't have been in que. 189 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:32 Yeah DS, that actually is what happened. Kyle took both of his picks and its back on Promize for 12.02. the current clock is for his 12.02 pick. I know it doesnt appear that way due to the OTC layout but I'm certain that's where we stand. If Promize times out here, then it will be on to the next pick and he can make both picks whenever he gets back. So I think we are all on the same page. Let me know if we aren't. I agree that some waiver time would be nice. I thought it looked like we would be able to get that done but today has been a sizeable setback. I'd like to hear suggestions on when to change the clock to 4 hours. I will say that I think there should be a 24 hour period before the switch so everyone has notice. 190 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:32 I am pretty sure that the 1st and 14th picks only have a 6 hour clock for the 2 picks at the turn. Intuitively it would then seem that if another manager times out, he should not get another 6 hours (or a total of 12 hours) for his next pick. As to movement to a 4 hour clock, I would vote for starting it on Monday. I will be out of the country after 9/5 and have no idea what sought of Internet service will be available, so ending earlier is important to me. 191 Guru       ID: 330592710       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:44 Here is how I am administering the RIFC: If a manager times out, he does not get a subsequent clock until the skipped picks are made up. Thus, a manager on the turn gets only one clock period for the turn. Similarly, if someone times out just before the turn, they do not get a second clock after then turn has picked. The commish can elect to grant extra leeway if he thinks it is in the best interests of the league. For example, if a draft is ahead of pace, or if there is reason to suspect that a skipped manager has an unexpected emergency, then lattitude can be granted. But, the purpose of the clock is not to give a manager 6 hours (or whatever) to make a pick. It is to give a manager 6 hours to become aware that his pick is due. Once that has expired, the draft can move on. The kafenatid software may not administer things this way automatically, but the commish can manually force the issue. Any skipped pick can be made up at any time. 192 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:50 I agree a move to a 4 hour clock is important and advanced notification to everyone is needed. I'm not sure waiting until Monday is the wisest choice. The following weekend is Labor Day weekend and a lot of people have made plans for then. 193 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:57 Was I right in making my 12.01 pick then Guru? 194 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:00 We could also go to a 3 hour clock which would necessitate using a queue more often. Once we make progress we could go back to a 4 hour clock. DS-Starting Sunday should give ample notice. 195 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:03 Kyle-According to Guru's post you were correct in picking and the Commish needs to go to the OTC website in order for DallasHomer to make his pick. 196 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:07 loki - I'm fine with the date(s). I just wanted to bring up Labor Day... 197 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:11 Ok, based on the interpretation from Guru, I've skipped Promize. Lets keep the 4 hour clock discussion going and I'll try to make a decision that works for the most people tonight. Cool? 198 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:14 And Kyle, you were right to make the picks. I would say, anytime kafenatid allows you to make a pick, do it. Then if its the wrong time we'll sort it out somehow. But don't be timid about it. You basically are getting bumped up a spot. 199 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:23 2.12 Chad Johnson, WR, Cin. Didn't think that the remaining RB warrented a 2nd round pick, so I went with a WR, and I was actually surprised that Johnson was available. Consistent WR, very happy that I got him. 3.03 Carson Palmer, QB, Cin. This could be a high risk, high reward pick. I didn't like the idea of taking two straight picks from the same team, but I was hearing good things about his recovery, so I decided to grab him. I heard talk that if healthy, would be rated above Peyton. 200 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:30 I've got a queue set for my upcoming pick. Its just for one pick and I should only be away about 2 hours but just in case it gets back to me, dont use it in round 13. 201 Bags @ work       ID: 586212721       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:58 I will make my pick shortly. I don't have a problem with a 4 hour clock. 202 Bags @ work       ID: 586212721       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:02 Bandos left me as a DP but his queue is empty. 203 Promize       ID: 141018197       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:10 Well here is the problem... I relied on the Kafenatid to email me at work that it was my pick... I never got the email notification, for some reason it sent the notification to my Secondary email, something I don't usually check... So am I peeved? just a bit, I explained my situation from day one that I would have problems picking from work, but I did watch my email all day today and was prepared to run home real quick to pick... I've been pretty deligent on my queues and being prepared... 204 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:16 Kafenatid sends the notifications to my secondary e-mail as well. It changed from one day to the other, without me doing it. 205 Promize       ID: 141018197       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:30 Edit Secondary E-mail Address Use this form to edit your secondary e-mail address. Your secondary e-mail address is ONLY used by the On the Clock Fantasy Draft Manager as a secondary draft event notification address. You will always receive draft event notifications at your primary e-mail address. Your secondary e-mail address is not used for any other purposes and will remain confidential. To remove your secondary e-mail address, simply clear the form and click the Update button. 206 Promize       ID: 141018197       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:32 What is making me mad, is a simple email from anyone in this league to my email to let me know my time was even 1 hour, 30 minutes, 15 minutes! etc close to ending would of been nice. 207 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:09 Back in the day before OTC (which I really like BTW) and its automated emails, you would have gotten MANY emails from the league. When I saw you with only 2 hours left, it didnt even cross my mind to email you since I assumed it had already been done. I am sure I am not alone in making that assumption. I wouldn't be mad at anyone in the league. 208 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:51 DS-Re:190-That was a typo (or a senior moment). I meant Thursday, not Monday, and then carried the error over to #194. 209 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 06:15 The instructions for the queue are the same as post 173. Have a good day. 210 Promize       ID: 141018197       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 07:51 Queue is set for today, so don't have a problem like yesterday. Next round please do a WR Following round please do a DB Thanks all. 211 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:08 Promize - sorry about not emailing you yesterday, but to tell you the truth I got caught by a surprise visit by my nephew on his way back to school and this one slipped by on the radar while hanging with him. I didn't pay a lot of attention to the draft(s) yesterday afternoon. I apologize for that discourtesy to a fellow gurupie. I am a dumbass I think it would be a good idea for all of us to post our email address in this thread to prevent what happened from occurring and make it easy to send a "reminder" when someone comes up if that helps to move the draft along. (A good idea?) 212 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:26 Electroman's rationales moved over: 2.12 Chad Johnson 3.03 Carson Palmer 213 loki       ID: 45739238       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:49 Queue: Please use #1-4 (in this order) for pick 12.13 and #5-6 (in order) for pick 13.02 if I am not around. Promize-I cannot check my home (primary) email at work, periodically check the OTC web site to see if I am up and also did not think to email you. I echo DS's appology.-l 214 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:41 Per Electroman's instructions in #209, I'm going to pick a QB in RD 12. No QB in RD 13! 215 Bags       Donor       ID: 246103120       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:54 I know 3.12 is not up but I just want to help keep things moving. 3.12 Warrick Dunn,RB,ATL I am usually a RB-RB guy and not having a solid #2 gives my fantasy football mind crazy head. My decision in round two to draft a WR guaranteed that I would draft a RB in round three. I had a tough time deciding between Dunn and Foster, who went next, but decided I wanted a RB with less of an injury history. With the news of ATL, DEN, & WAS trade Dunn’s TD totals should be increased and he could potentially be a top 10 back. 4.03 Reggie Wayne,WR,IND I felt in previous RIFC years WR was my weakest position, this year I wanted to change that. Wayne was listed as a top 10 WR in my rankings. Another serious option would have been Gates at TE, taken the pick just before me. 216 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:24 Per Electroman's instructions in #209, a LB was picked in RD 13. 217 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 14:35 Pretty sure that I did Loki's correctly. 218 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 17:08 I've got a queue set up for my pick (round 13). If it somehow gets back around to me I have more guys in the queue for round 14 but please dont pick someone with the same postion as round 13's. 219 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 17:33 Bandos-You did and thanks.-l 220 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 17:50 Thanks for the picks DS 221 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 18:33 no problemo E-Man. Had to make a run to Costco with the 'phew and it worked out to a T on timing. :) 222 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 20:10 As per previous posts, if someone has Wigg's email address, he should let him know that he has < 2 hours left on the clock. 223 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 21:24 I just emailed him. 224 wiggs       Donor       ID: 04991311       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 21:55 I left a queue, but i guess it emptied, sorry guys. 225 Bags @ work       ID: 586212721       Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 22:09 I'll make my pick in about 5 min. 226 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 06:15 Queue for this round only. Thanks 227 beastiemiked       ID: 36428317       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 07:32 Traveling most of the day. Queue should be set. 228 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:25 Queue for RD 14 only. Dr's Appt this AM. Thanks 229 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 10:55 Ok, based on the time the draft is taking, I'm going to take us down to a 4 hour clock on Monday morning. Depending on how that works, it may be cut down even shorter after that. It may also be a good idea to find a buddy or post your email so that someone can contact you if you've been on the clock awhile. I think we will finish in time, but in order to make some moves beforehand, we need to get done faster. 230 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:03 I would prefer a 4 hour clock starting tommorow and then possibly avoid a shorter clock later on. 231 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:26 Making Electroman's pick - This round only. 232 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:31 how about this: if there are no objections we will go to the 4 hour clock starting saturday. My only reservation about doing it tomorrow is that some people may not have proper notice of the switch. Would Saturday be acceptable? 233 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:41 Saturday is fine. 234 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 13:59 Saturday is good for me. I think I only had the clock go low on me once so far so the drop in time doesn't bother me. 235 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:05 I dont think its going to make a major difference. Chances are if you don't catch it in the first 4 hours, you werent going to catch it. Ok, we will officially shorten the clock to 4 hours on Saturday morning (roughly 8am) 236 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:09 Saturday's fine with me. 237 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:23 I have a queue for E's pick #15.03, but it looks like it should not be used. If I am wrong, please advise. THANKS!! 238 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:28 that looks right, I'll email him and let him know hes up again. 239 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:44 per #226, E-Man's queue was for Rd 14 only and I made that pick from his queue for Braylon Edwards, WR. I'd advise against it and email. 240 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 15:54 I've left a queue for my next pick. I've also added players in case it comes back around to me again. If the queue is used for a second pick, please pick the next highest player OF A DIFFERENT POSITION. Thanks russelldl 241 Kyle       ID: 261371521       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 18:20 We need to speed this up guys. I know it sounds redundant but we are currently a full round behind the AAA#1 league and 2 behind RIFC. We shouldn't be falling back like this. 242 Nerfherders       ID: 501035289       Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 19:33 I think we've also given up on rationales? its taking forever. 243 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 10:18 Can someone email Promize, maybe he doesnt know he is up again. 244 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 10:34 Email sent. 245 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 10:50 Sorry to be tardy, Promize left a 1 player queue. Should I use it? 246 Bags       Donor       ID: 246103120       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:01 If it is not the same position then yes. 247 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:01 I would think that if a queue is left it should be used unless otherwise directed on the message board. 248 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:06 I sent him an email too. let's give me a couple of minutes to respond. I need coffee - back in a jiff. 249 BoNkA       ID: 267102510       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:10 Pick made for Promize. Only selection on his Queue. Hopefully this is correct as nothing was said to me but I got the email about being his designated picker. 250 BoNkA       ID: 157132510       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:13 Hmm, didn't see deepsnapper's post when I checked here. I'm assuming the pick is ok since it's a different position. If something isn't correct it's my fault and I apologize in advance. 251 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 11:24 While making my coffee (and the mrs), I got a reply back from Promize. Yes please, go ahead with the Dolphins, I needed a backup defense, and figured this was a good time to grab one. I have a queue set up for next round also, I placed them in order so whatever pops up go ahead and pick them if we get back around today. As Promize hadn't posted about using his queue like he did on Wednesday, I just wanted to give him a opportunity to respond before making the pick. Now we know and it works. No problems BoNka, just me slow making coffe. ;) 252 BoNkA       ID: 57402511       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:40 I have to head home from school to take care of things for our family business and visit my dad as his condition is worsening. I will try to keep up with the draft over the next 1-3 days, but if I'm slow or behind I apologize. Things just aren't going too well at the moment. 253 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:47 BoNkA - very sorry to hear about your dad. If there's anything I can do, let me know. I track picks on the pc and can call with updates. Take the time you need to do what needs to be done. 254 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:48 I had this on the clipboard so I'm gong to paste it before I lose it from another thread. FYI - Under QUEUE Management, you can set the "All P players" option to 1 and the designated picker can only take the 1 player displayed at a time. They can't view the whole queue that way if you decide to put 100 in a queue, they're only shown one at a time. It and the ability to set it to allow a DP to pick from "all players" is a new feature KKB just installed recently to OTC. 255 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 13:44 I sent russelldl an email about 25 mins ago and I saw the pick was just made. per #240, whomever has his queue was to take the next highest offensive player in russelldl's queue other than a RB , which appears to be the case, but I thought the email was prudent since that was last night's instruction. (or russelldl made the pick) ;) 256 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 14:08 Pick made for wiggs as DP. Appeared to be the right move. Sending email. 257 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 16:30 Pick made for E-Man. from the appearance of it being a single view, it looked like a good pick IMO so I went ahead and made it. If not, its my bad. I can't say the same for RD 17 w/o it coming around again. 258 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 17:08 FWIW, I don't think we should give up on rationales. I missed Bags post in 215, but anyone could've cut-n-pasted it into the rationale thread. I posted a plaaceholder for Promize as he has access issues from work and clossince he's closer to the left coast than the right, his work day is longer than some of us. That said, Kyle's up for a double. ;) 259 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 17:50 Bandos - rationales up to 4.04. :) ds 260 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 18:17 Queue left. 261 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 19:06 making pick from queue for loki 262 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 19:09 Since electroman drafted a RB in the last round, I'm not comfortable taking a RB with this pick which is all I can see in his queue. I am not using his queue to make this pick. I will send and email though. ;) 263 russelldl       ID: 197341713       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 19:46 just want to let everyone know I am fighting viruses on my computer right now. I'll try not to let it affect my picks but internet access is difficult. sorry for any delay. I'll try to keep queues updated. 264 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 22:10 Sorry for the delay on this rationale. 3.02 Anquan Boldin, WR, AZ As with my last pick I did not see a RB that would consistently put up good numbers. I had Boldin ranked at the bottom of 1st tier WRs and went with him. 265 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 22:14 Thanks for not using my queue for the second pick. I had hubble managing things today, and I guess that he left work before he could make my second pick. 266 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 07:44 loki - 3.02 Anquan Boldin rationale had to be combined with your Rd 2 rationale as we didn't leave a slot for your Rd 3. As close as they are together appearance seems okay. Apologies regardless. ds 267 loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 08:23 DS-That is fine. I composed the two rationales days apart and did not realize that they were nearly identical. Russelldl-Is the clock changing to 4 hours today? OTC has it at 6 this AM. 268 Electroman       ID: 44651412       Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 08:32 I am going to post my rationales for the next two rounds. Have prenatal courses today, so I won't be around if the rationales speed up. 4.12 Fred Taylor, RB, Jax Needed a second RB in this round. There wasn't much left in sure fire RB's. If healthy, Fred Taylor seemed like a good option. Hope that it works out. 5.03 Todd Heap, TE, Bal Steve McNair loves to throw to his TE, and Todd Heap is a good one, so I figure he is going to get the ball a lot. 269 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 13:02 no problem Electroman. I can move dem over should the need arise. 270 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:06 russelldl - re: 263, any luck with the PC virus? Those things can be a bitch to get rid of. I use Norton Antivirus and it works well for me anyway. 271 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:21 Russell's Q read empty/unavailable. He must be having problems. If anyone knows how to contact him not via computer - make it so! 272 russelldl       ID: 77552513       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 10:10 hi guys, sorry for the delay. my computer completely crashed from the virus. I've learned my lesson, always update your norton! I'm using other people's computers for the next few days so I may not be around much. I just made a pick and I'm going to set a queue filled with 2 positions. For my next pick take the first available guy in my queue. Then for the second pick, take the next highest guy of a different position. Also, I switched the clock to 4 hours. Sorry for the delay guys. 273 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 11:23 yeah, the 2006 versionn of Norton's Live Update has a "auto update" you can set which is nice. It can also be turned off which I accidenly did - oops! Do you have GMail/Hotmail/Yahoo you can use as alternate email? 274 Promize       ID: 141018197       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 11:51 AT this point dont' you all think we really could set the clock more to like 2hours or 2 1/2... There isn't much left to choose from, these are just ... "Lets feel our lineups with whoever" picks 275 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 13:28 I see where russelldl has opened the waiver wire processs. I don't recall using the waiver wire before the season to add free agents to our rosters in past RIFC leagues, but things fade over 50. If so, the players I'm adding to my roster don't come off the wire until Wednesday, 8/30. Is that a system date or did you set it russelldl? 276 russelldl       ID: 77552513       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 15:21 I haven't done anything to the aol site so any players you add or drop now will not be on your team. The 8/30 date is just a default date. 277 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 16:57 Okay, I was under the impression the other RIFC leagues were picking up their players as free agents as they drafted (each owner individually). The waiver wire would be set once the draft is over. You might need to check with how RIFC or another Commish like Trip (AAA1) to make sure. 278 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 23:12 I'm going ahead and putting a claim in on all my players so they come off the waiver wire on Wednesday 8/30. I get in some practice on using the A,B & C wires by splitting the O,D, & D/ST into different Claim lists at least. lol 279 Pancho Villa       ID: 366352418       Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 23:26 Speaking of draft rationales....?? 280 Promize       ID: 141018197       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 07:43 My next two picks please: DL Round 19 LB Round 20 Thanks 281 Bags       Donor       ID: 246103120       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 08:21 I won't be around much today. I have left a few people as DP's. I don't think I have anyone ranked at the same position twice. Just draft who is there it will be fine with me. Thanks. 282 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 09:28 OK DP, I misunderstood what you were saying. Absolutely you can start picking up your players. Actually, anyone who wants to do that, it would really help me save some time later on. I thought you were asking if you could pick up undrafted players through the waiver right now. I thought that seemed like a weird question. Sorry I was confused, go ahead and pick up your guys. 283 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 10:03 russelldl - The 5th paragraph in guru's initial post refer's to them picking up their players as they draft them: I will clear all rosters at the fanball site shortly, and ask that each of you pick up your player as soon as you draft him. I will also attempt to make pickups for teams using a designated picker, so that we can maintain as complete a list of free agents as possible. RIFC 2006: Draft discussion #1 I don't mind picking up all my players via the WW as long as it doesn't mess up the actual inseason WW priority. 284 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 10:20 I'm also concerned about the pace with finishing as we have over 6 rounds to complete and the Labor Day weekend approaching. I'd propose at least a 3 hour clock during the day to help move things along. I may bite myself with this as I've got Drs appts including a physical tommorow and a retinal exam on Wed. ugh (nothing like getting intentionally snowblinded for a few hrs), but thats okay, that's what queues are for. ;) comments? (on the 3 hr clock suggestion) 285 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 10:27 I'd be fine with the 3 hour clock if others would be ok as well. Right now our projected finish is saturday and I think that is likely. To be honest, I doubt I will be able to finish up the aol league and such before this weekend since I'm without a home computer for the next day or two. I'll try to get the league finished and teams filled, rules finalized, waiver priority set, etc. by this weekend so if anyone wants to make claims we can get some done before next thursday's opener. On the bright side, is anyone else as incredibly excited as I am that football is starting again???? 286 Nerfherders       ID: 501035289       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 11:22 I guess rationales are over. A whole 3 picks wow! 287 Bandos       Sustainer       ID: 279492419       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 11:54 I dont care what time the clock is set to. My Q is available - No instructions, just pick whoever pops up as over 50% will be dropped by week 2 at this point in the draft anyhow. We missed the boat on rationale's. You have to start at round 3 and then post one each time you pick and not get behind. I do propose a draft recap instead where those of us who have all their rationales written (me) can post them with some commentary on the draft itself. 288 deepsnapper       Leader       ID: 017103420       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 12:45 Agree'd at this point trying to catch up would be difficult if not impossible. I'd propose we get through round 5 as individual rationals and do the draft recap and commentary at the end of the draft. Surely we can get 5 rounds in. Post the RD 4-5 rationales in here and I'll move them over. 289 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 12:52 I emailed kyle to let him know his time is running out. 290 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 12:59 Also, I'm sorry about the rationales. I just realized that I was the one holding things up. I had seen bandos name as the last post and I thought he had post the pick after mine and we were still waiting for more. I didnt realize it was the post before mine and everyone was waiting on me. I'll post the rationale now for the pick DS just put a place holder for. 291 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 13:02 4.05, Plaxico Burress, WR, NYG I already had 2RBs and a QB so I had to get a WR before they were gone. Burress is certainly a stretch as a first WR for a fantasy team but I think I made up for it by adding Kennison later as my #3 WR. I don't have a ton of faith in Burress based on his poor finish to last season, but I think the Giants offense will be potent this year and Burress will at least have the opportunity to be a major contributor. I hope he takes advantage. 292 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 13:23 I started a new thread, this one is getting long, please use the new one. 293 Loki       SuperDude       ID: 4211201420       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 13:31 Russell-You should go to a 3 hour clock, but even that will not help unless queues are left to prevent timing out. -In some of the other leagues in which I have participated the rationales also never progressed very far. At the conclusion of the draft the managers posted an evaluation of their draft including their overall strategy, evaluation by position, prediction of their team's chances, which teams teams looked the strongest, and some other categories which escape me at this time. Would the league have any interest in this? Participation would be at each manager's discretion. 294 russelldl       ID: 28533110       Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 13:35 I agree loki, I think the clock isn't going to make a huge difference. If people time out it slows us way down, if they don't it goes fast. I'm willing to go down to 3 hours if enough people agree. I think draft recaps are always welcome, even if only a few people end up doing them. 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