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Subject: Mike Singletary Invitational Keeper League Discuss

Posted by: barilko6 - [16529229] Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 12:33

Hey all..

Kafentid is all set. Draft order is set. Stupid program gave me the last pick.

DRAFT ORDER:

wiggs 1.01
GolfFreak
GoatLocker
jtserb
dwfffan
promize
Stuck60
electroman
sarge33rd
Frick
russelldl
barilko6

Clock will be paused until 8:00 tomorrow, but picking may start at anytime.

Remember, the first year this is a snake draft, next year, and every year after will be a standard 1-12, 1-12, etc, draft.

5 Keepers kept.

Lets Roll!

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 12:35

Kafenatid will automatically email you when you are on the clock.

We are using a 6 hour time clock per pick. We can change that if we feel we need to.

You can set designated pickers that allow others to make picks for you should you need to leave a queue.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 12:39

One last point...

When making a pick on Kafenatid, make sure you enter the player's name, spelled exactly as Kafenatid has it, that way the player will be eliminated from the available player list and won't be picked twice.

wiggs
ID: 287978
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 13:47

1st pick is in the books, Larry Johnson was signed to a huge contract.

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 13:56

First three ran the way they probably should have.

Barilko,
The grid does not show a kicker, and the drop down doesn't either.

Cliff

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:19

gee, why dont those first 3 surprise me at all? lol

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:28

I'm in on Yahoo, sorry about the delay.

I agree with Sarge, absolutely shocking how those first 3 played out.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:32

I can already tell that I like this kafenatid. Draft doesnt start until tomorrow morning, and if all arepaying attention today and this evening, we'll blitz rd 1,2 and 3 in the blink of an eye.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:54

For some reason I can't add a kicker slot. Kickers are still able to be drafted, and they are still listed in the player database, but the site won't let me add the position to our league settings.

A small detail that I will work on, it only affects our league in the fact that the position isn't shown, but the players can still be drafted to the bench.

We can't finish the 3rd round until my payment goes through to Fred!

lol

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:56

Normally I wouldn't mind being in the 12 spot for drafting, but with this being a keeper league, I kind of wish I was higher...especially seeing those top guys go off the board. I was hoping one of them would drop down to me...hehe

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 15:00

Guess I should take a few minutes to talk to On The Clock.

Fred has really done a great job here.
When you do a queue, your designated pickers and the commissioner will see the name on the top of the queue and be able to make the pick for you.
During the Beta Testing, we had Fred add the ability to turn the Queue on and off.

So, when you see the Queue Status: Unavailable, it means the designated pickers and commissioner can't see your queue.

What this does is allows you to set up a queue and Designated pickers and make the queue available for when you are away, but when you get back, you can disable the queue.

If I am a designated picker for you and you make the queue available, I will make the pick for you as soon as you are up.

The baseball drafts I was commissioner for, I worked the same way.
If you are up and have the queue available, I'm making the pick.

Was not uncommon for me to make 5 or 6 picks in a row.

Really keeps the draft going.

Any questions, please ask.

Cliff

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 15:01

Barilko,
I can pay Fred if you need.

And if you drop him an email, he'll tell you how to fix it.

Cliff

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 15:49

Its all paid up, just waiting for it to be processed.

Also sent an email asking about the positions...

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:55

Fred has fixed the Kicker position for our draft. There is no assigned WR/RB position, but that position will be used during our season.

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:56

I really wanted tomlinson with my pick, but i heard he was having an issue with his neck. Plus this being a keeper league I figured I would go with the younger of the 2.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:57

I think its hard to go wrong with any of the 3 of them.

Just to reply to an email sent, the draft is paused until 8:00 tomorrow morning, at which time the 6 hour clock will start.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:57

barilko...I see that you only plan on running a snake draft this first year and then going to a straightline draft. Any particular reason for that?

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:58

Don't most keeper leagues go non-snake after the first year?

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:59

Because of the keepers. I've only ever been in 2 keeper leagues, and both leagues ran a straight draft because of the keepers. I thought maybe that was standard...

any comments anyone?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:01

doesnt matter to me. Just every league I've ever been in, went snake draft. I dont mind/care either way. Was just curious.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:04

I guess the straight draft assumes the League Champion would have 5 solid keepers, and the last place team might not have as good of players.

Also it creates a league wide NFL-like parity that enables all teams to rise to the championship only one year removed from a bad year.

And finally, its just a way to make bad teams like mine more competitive after a bad year. :)

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:11

roflmao...so you're saying...you're gonna compete with me to see who's in the basement at years end? :)

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:11

All of my keeper leagues use a straight draft after the first year.

I think it helps try to make it harder for a dynasty to form.

Out 24 team league does that and we have had 3 different champs in the first 4 years.

Cliff

dwfffan
ID: 15954811
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 19:06

Anyone know if jtserb is going to be around tonight?
If not I wont waste time hanging around.

Promize
ID: 141018197
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 19:12

Is that draft pause set right? or am I reading it wrong?

Way I'm reading it, is your pausing the draft everyday from Noon till Midnight.

Did you mean to set it Midnight to Noon?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 19:14

yep, he's right. Its set now to pause come noon every day and start backup at midnight. (pity the poor fool whose clock time starts at 0001 hrs.)

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 19:49

Im around now guys.. I thought we were starting tuesday.. jsut some miscommunication i suppose I will pick in a few.

FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:36

I left a 3 man queue, but since 2 of them were the next picks I'll probably won't be able to pick until tomorrow morning.

Sorry if it causes a delay. I'll try to leave more of queue next time.

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:49

I just took what may be the gamble of the draft. With 2 QBs on each roster, I wanted quality there since the top RBs were gone. But what if Palmer hasn't completely recovered from his injury???????

Don

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:51

Does anyone want to trade up. Exchange 1st and second rounders?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:51

But what if Palmer hasn't completely recovered from his injury???????

Thats a rhetorical question...right? ;)

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:52

Electro...I'll give ya my 3rd and 4th for your 1st.

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:56

After much thought, I will have to decline.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:56

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 20:57

lol to be honest, I wasnt sure if I wanted you to accept the offer or not?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 21:02

Gonna be away from the computer for abit. Queue is available to barilko if Electroman picks before I check back. Top3 on my list are in order, in case Electroman takes the 1st name there.

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 21:13

I drafted Manning with the same theory that SITS has. With a 2 QB starting league I don�t want to be stuck with Grossman and Pennington as my starting QB's. I feel there is more RB depth than QB.

Also I have a 16 man queue set up. It will be sufficient for my pick tomorrow. I will check in at lunch time tomorrow to see where the draft has progressed to.

I set GL, Sarge, and commish as Designated pickers. Will you guys be around tomorrow?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 21:16

for me its hard to say. Tomorrow is our "Monday" since we're closed today, so I expect to be all tied up until mid afternoon at any rate.

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 21:38

I'll be checking on and off as always.
Just never know when I am going to get tied up at work.
But, usually just a short window.

My worst day of the week is always Thurs.

Cliff

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 22:02

See Frick took Ronnie Brown. Had you taken the trade Electro...those were my 2 picks..Jackson/Brown.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 22:19

BARILKO...did you note posts 24 and 25??

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 22:55

Sorry fellas...Just got in from Soccer/beers

re 40: The clock is paused until our "official" start time of 8:00 AM EST tomorrow. These picks are all just extra!

When the clock starts tomorrow, it will go from 8:00 AM - Midnight each day. Then shut down again on weekends. When the clock is paused, picks can still be made, but there will be no 6 hour time limit.

A big chance there on Carson...but at least you have the assurance of knowing its a keeper league!

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 23:01

Yup, my thought exactly, but the first season could be a long one!!

Don

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 23:13

re 36:

I am at my desk all day tomorrow, except for a 2 hour window in the early afternoon where I get to schmooze a client.

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 23:43

I will be around all morning, then away from 130 -1130 est. I will probably leave a queue if it isnt back to me. I will also be willing to accept queues if anyone wants to leave one for the am.

barilko6
ID: 556252517
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 09:32

A bit of a lull here...and I am so anxious to pick!

Still lots of good players on the board, even after Russell makes his choice.

Would be willing to trade and get another second round pick if anyone is interested in moving down...

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 09:34

Hope Russell realizes he is on the clock.

Cliff

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 10:02

Left a 8 man Q.
Will be out till around 6pm (c)

barilko6
ID: 556252517
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 10:51

Nobody looking to trade out of the third round?

barilko6
ID: 556252517
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 11:21

Made my picks!

Went with two young backs, hopefully they pan out!

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 13:25

I am going to be leaving for work now. I might be able to check in tonight if it slows down, but if not I left a 6 man queue and 7 designated pickers. Hopefully my guys will slide though. If not I will pick when I get home around 1130.

russelldl
ID: 46717812
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 13:53

Sorry for the delay guys, I haven't really been home since last week so I've been trying to keep up on the fly. I didnt expect that we would start drafting so soon but I should be able to swing it. Unfortunately I didnt have time to prepare queues but I will from now on. Wont happen again.

barilko6
ID: 556252517
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 14:36

Not sure how the queues work, I know I have used them in the past, but I haven't received any queues from anyone via my email.

Just throwing that out there for Goat to think about and tell me what the queues are all about...lol

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 15:16

If you select someone to handle your queue, that person will receive an EMail from Kafenatid that it's time to select.

Don

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 15:28

OK, this should do a pretty good job of explaining Queues.
From the baseball threads.

On The Clock Notes and Hints

QUEUE MANAGEMENT
Queue Management now serves a dual purpose. It gives you a way to line up players you want, but this can be done both for your own purposes (a cheat sheet) and for your Designated Pickers. All you have to do to add players to your queue is go to Queue Management, find the player in the list of names, and add them. After you have added players, you can arrange them using the "Move Up" and "Move Down" links for each player.

There are NO more emails sent out for queues! Everything is handled through the On the Clock system now.

DESIGNATED PICKERS
Designated Pickers will no longer receive email queues. A manager's queue will now be stored in the On the Clock system and displayed as a list drop-down instead of the "Player Name" search box for their Designated Pickers and the draft admin.

However, Designated Pickers will only have access to a manager's queue if the manager makes the queue "Available." You could very well be set up as a Designated Picker for someone and if they do not have a queue or do not make it "Available," you won't have the list of players to work from. If a manager's queue is "Unavailable," it is the equivalent of them storing a cheat sheet in the system. The list will be available to them, but not to their Designated Pickers, nor the draft admin.

AVAILABLE/UNAVAILABLE
As I said above, if your queue is "Available," then your designated pickers and the draft admin will see your queue list instead of the player search box when it's your turn to pick.

If your queue is "Unavailable," your designated pickers and the draft admin WILL NOT be able to see your queue.

Because of the Queue management, it is possible to designate somebody and then when it is your choice they get the email and can see your queue.

Also, if the queue is available, I can see it as the admin.

If you do not want somebody to use your queue, make it unavailable.

You can still leave them as a designated picker though.

Say I just walked in the door and saw I was next up. I could change my queue to unavailable to give me a chance to look at what has happened and make sure what I want to do.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 15:39

Ah ok...

I was wondering about that. I remembered in the past getting emails for queues. Then I hear all about these queues being setup and not getting emails. lol

Carry on!

Electroman has 2 hours and counting!

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 15:44

From the Designated Picker interface:

A Designated Picker will be allowed to make picks, both missed and current, for you. When it is your turn to pick, they will see the same draft interface that you do. Use the form below to add or remove a Designated Picker. You can also see who has added you as a Designated Picker.

You can also refuse, which will email the person and tell them you refused.

Cliff

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:13

Would hate to see Electroman time out so early in the draft.

I sent him an email...

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:27

Was thinking the same thing.

I have an appointment with my cardiologist in the next hour.
Should be home by 5:00 my time.
Am not going to leave a queue for this pick.

Cliff

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:32

Being the first day, what do you guys think about giving Electroman a little extra time?

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:35

I just made a pick, but would have been happy to wait on Electroman. If he gets here soon, I'm OK with it.

Don

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:36

Sorry about the dalay. Things are a little crazy in my household right now. My wife is pregnant, and we had an appointment today. The draft came pretty quick, and didn't do enough research to leave a queue. Again I apologize.

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:39

If I read it correctly, Electro can go in and make his pick now if he wants.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:43

Yep...you can make a pick at anytime for a missed pick.

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 19:43

Jake Delhomme.. wow.. interesting pick to say the least.

dwfffan
ID: 15954811
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 19:50

Not the QB I wanted with this pick, but he fits in fine. Almost 3500 yard's, 24 TD's, and another added receiver.

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 19:52

QB's are going fast.

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 19:54

Just walked in the door.
Give me 10 minutes and I'll pick.

Cliff

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:08

OK, I picked.
I'm a DP for GF, but his queue is either empty or is unavailable.

Cliff

dwfffan
ID: 15954811
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:13

re 47: he should be around soon.

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:16

didn't see this big of a QB run.... Im glad I took Manning

Promize
ID: 141018197
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:41

Is it me but is this draft just going weird?

The choices of players are incredibly sparatic.

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:52

definately a little weird. It is a keeper league that has some factor, but the QB run has altered the draft tremendously IMHO.

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 20:56

After we've completed 3 rounds, I'll put up some numbers.
I did run them and they are amazing.

Cliff

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:10

Home!!!
let me update cheetsheet and ill pick in a few.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:22

I got a designated picker notice for Wiggs...but no players shown. Hopefully he will get in sometime tonight.

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:28

He said he would be home from work about 11 his time.
Hour and a half from now.

Cliff

FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:46

I can't say that I'm that suprised. In the Serious Biz league we went to 2 QBs last year and if I recall the first 3 picks were:

1. LT
2. Manning
3. Culpepper

It bears mentioning that LT was the consensus #1 last year and after that it was muddled. Adding the 2nd QB really creates some demand for QBs and helps make the draft more strategic, at least in my opinion. It should also do the same in keeper selections.

I made my first pick without my cheatsheet, I didn't have it ready when I left work and went off of memory. After I got to work and got it done, I had Brady as my next pick and hoped he would make it back to me. I doubt if I would have gotten Ronnie Brown after the turn either, so I can't complain.

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 21:59

The 2-QB format really stymied me last season, so I decided to get two good ones to start with and then pick up mid-range RBs. Evidently, lots of folks had the same idea.

Don

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:03

I put about 11 players in my queue. If it makes it back to me in the fourth round, don't use the queue please, it is for round 3 only. Sarge and Barilko6 are DP. Thanks.

wiggs@work
ID: 31746814
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:05

I left a bunch of players in my queue, I am surprised they werent there. Atleast I got a shot to check in and make this picks sooner then later.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:08

re 79...Noted.

I am really surprised by a lot of the picks thus far...

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:19

I'm not, not with the scoring system we are using.

I entered the points and ran them.

3 of the top 5 are QBs
12 of the top 15 are QBs
18 of the top 29 are QBs

When you set up a point system that penalizes all positions other than QB, that is the way the draft has to run.

With 4 points for a passing TD vice 6, the below numbers are true:

2 of the top 5 are QBs
7 of the top 15 are QBs
14 of the top 29 are QBs

So, as I said, not surprised

Cliff

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:22

Damn Cliff was hoping Jordan would come back around to me, but im happy with Smith in that position. Got the best 2 receivers in the draft in smith and fitz imho. Only bad thing is they have bye week same week.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:31

Edgerrin, Rudi, and Lamont dropped a lot in my opinion.

I actually had all 3 ranked higher in a single season league than the two backs I got.

russelldl
ID: 46717812
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:17

I left a queue just in case it gets back to me before morning. The queue will work for both rounds if it comes to that.

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:36

its funny to me how different sheets rank players. All my sheets (3 of them ) show CJ and TO as 1 and 2 respectfully at the WR position.

I am pretty happy with my start.

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:39

TO might have a better year, but he is 30... CJ no argument there... I had him right behind smith

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:44

Recently downgraded Smith. I show Holt/Fitz/Smith/CJ as 1 through 4 respectively.

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:50

TO not even top 4, wow. hope i didnt mess up there.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:54

TO = automatic -2 in my rankings. I cant STAND that s.o.b. :)

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:56

i cant stand him either, and i am a cowboys fan, but i dont like personal issues come into fantasy. I like to win. Just like i hate ortiz, but I love his HRs plus RBIs

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:57

my condolences on being a Cowboys fan. ;)

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 23:59

besides, it isnt strictly personal. Gotta figure the jacka$$ for 2-3 games of suspension for telling coach where to go and what to do with himself when he gets there. Problem for TO in Dallas, Tuna will pack him into a tin sardine can and ship the damn thing off to Newfoundland. TO wake up, cold, lonely and alone. (Which would just utterly break my heart.)

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 00:03

TO always seems to be good in his first year in a new place, so that being said...

I wouldn't want to have him for next year! lol

Promize
ID: 141018197
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 06:55

Seems Kafe website is down this morning. I won't be able to set a queue. Or see who has been drafted since last night, or who gets drafted this afternoon.

If you all mind posting, I "possibly" highly possibly might be able to peek on at work to try and make a pick.. But with security at my company I doubt it.

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 07:17

Yeah...

I think Fred mentioned the site would be down for part of the morning for servicing.

Promize, I can send you an email of all the picks when it gets updated to give you a better sense of who you might want, and then if you want you can give me the player you want picked in your name.

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 07:57

left a 10 man Q.
Will be on the road most of the day.
Be home around 5-6pm (c)

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 08:21

here ya go Promize:

1.01 Larry Johnson RB KAN wiggs
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDG GolfFreak
1.03 Shaun Alexander RB SEA GoatLocker
1.04 Peyton Manning QB IND jtserb
1.05 Clinton Portis RB WAS dwfffan
1.06 Tiki Barber RB NYG promize
1.07 Carson Palmer QB CIN Stuck60
1.08 Carnell Williams RB TAM electroman
1.09 Steven Jackson RB STL sarge33rd
1.10 Ronnie Brown RB MIA Frick
1.11 Tom Brady QB NWE russelldl
1.12 Willis McGahee RB BUF barilko6
2.01 Reggie Bush RB NOR barilko6
2.02 Eli Manning QB NYG russelldl
2.03 Donovan McNabb QB PHI Frick
2.04 Brian Westbrook RB PHI sarge33rd
2.05 Daunte Culpepper QB MIA electroman
2.06 Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA Stuck60
2.07 Edgerrin James RB ARI promize
2.08 Jake Delhomme QB CAR dwfffan
2.09 Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI jtserb
2.10 Marc Bulger QB STL GoatLocker
2.11 Rudi Johnson RB CIN GolfFreak
2.12 Chad Johnson WR CIN wiggs
3.01 Terrell Owens WR DAL wiggs
3.02 Torry Holt WR STL GolfFreak
3.03 LaMont Jordan RB OAK GoatLocker
3.04 Steve Smith WR CAR jtserb
3.05 Marvin Harrison WR IND dwfffan

and you're up btw. :)

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 08:29

I am curious, because this is a new keeper league.

Any thoughts on my pick of Reggie Bush with the first pick of the second round? Did I go wayyy to high? Would he have been there for my round 3 pick?

100

wiggs
ID: 5773997
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 08:43

I dont think I would have taken him yet, but that doesnt mean others wouldnt have. I play by the theroy "win every year" therefore I grab the best available player at the time.

101

barilko6
ID: 971298
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 09:53

Promize just sent me an email, will make his pick around noon EST.

102

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 10:23

I'm not sure I'd have taken Bush that early, either. There's no guarantee he'll even start. However, and it's a big however, if he pans out, you'll be well on your way to dominating the league in future years.

Don

103

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 10:28

For the most part, I'm thinking anything before rd4 is abit of a reach. Of course, this is a keeper league, and waiting until rd4 probably means he'd have been on someone elses squad. So..if you waned him...you got him.

104

barilko6
ID: 971298
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 10:38

The funny thing is, I didn't really have him targeted at all.

I had other plans (both involving players already picked) but they changed quickly due to the developments of the picks ahead of me.

105

Promize
ID: 141018197
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 12:43

Sorry guys,
Made my pick, hopefully by the time I get home it won't be my turn again.

With the draft going so oddly, I really can't make a queue worth a damn that I would want to leave.

I'm sort of like Wiggs, play to win every year instead of the look to future thing. Might back fire, but what the hell :)

106

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 12:53

SITS----You're on the clock.

107

barilko6
ID: 971298
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 12:56

Don't get me wrong, I definitely play to win every year...

I think Bush will be a stud already this year. I think NO has too much riding on him to sit him for too long.

108

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:07

Cept Deuce is no slouch himself. (depending on the extent of his recovery.) I see a RBBC there and not much way around it. They recently delt away Bennett, so they cant really afford to trade Deuce anymore. Maybe next year they couold, but for now, this year..I see it being split carries for Bush's rookie season.

109

barilko6
ID: 971298
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:24

Sarge, what are you trying to do, burst my bubble?!?

110

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:25

lol wha?!? me?!?!? *looking around* "You talkin to me?"

111

wiggs
ID: 5773997
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:27

I will be away from the computer for along time, probably til 1130 or so. I dont see any way to leave a queue though, so I will pick when I get home.

112

barilko6
ID: 971298
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:28

From a very respected source, I heard Deuce was going to be limited to punt returns, fullback duties, being the 3rd and 18 back, and then cleaning Reggie's fishtank during the bye week.

113

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 13:35

see what happens when you only talk to Bushs Mom? :)

114

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 14:26

everything I have heard says bush will be used very much like at USC. He'll split time in the backfield and also be moved around the formation more as a receiver.
The issue I would have from a fantasy perspective is goal line situations. Even if Bush is the everydown back, why wouldn't you use McAllister at the goal line. He seems better suited, he'll be fresh, and you don't risk getting Bush injured with all that pounding. And losing red zone carries is tough.
Then again, Bush has the potential to be one of the all time great backs in this league, so I dont think its a bad pick.

115

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 14:31

Oh I'd be hesitant to call it a "bad" pick. In a non-keeper league, I'd not be so hesitant. I dont see it as helping much this year, but it certainly helps for the next and the 2-5 after that.

Speaking of which....is there any limit to how long (how many consecutive years) a manager can call the same player as a "keeper" on their squad?

116

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 14:38

I agree Deuce would be a good choice for short and goal...but, I don't expect the Saints to have too many red zone situations.

Especially after Bush takes it 60 yards every time the Saints get the ball at scrimmage.

117

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 14:46

or does what Ed McAffrey did to me a few years ago in another league. *ouch*

118

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 15:53

Hey Barilko,
How did you turn off the clock on Kafenatid before the tuesday start?
I'm commish of one of the RIFC AAA leagues and I need to do that but don't know how.
russelldl

119

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 16:34

Russell,
You should be able to pause it.
Can't remember the exact functionality and am not commishioning a league right now so that I can look.

Cliff

120

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 16:39

I can figure out how to set up a pause that happens every day for a certain time, but I can't figure out how to pause it up until 8/16. I want people to be able to draft until then with no clock.
(sorry for highjacking this thread)

121

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 16:39

Wouldnt you just set your draft to start as of 8/16 then?

122

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 16:41

Actually I just figured it out. I can just set the options to "no time limit" and then change it starting on 8/16.
Thanks guys

123

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:11

Sorry to have been so late, but pick is finally in. My highest rated RB at this point was Julius, so that was where I went.

Don

124

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:17

re 79

Electro said he left a queue, but there is nothing showing

125

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:19

prolly left the que, but didnt make it available.

126

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:32

I've set up a queue that should be good to go for the next 2 rounds, so if it makes it back to me feel free to use it.

I can't remember, can anyone else see the queue prior to it being my pick? If not, I'll add Sarge as a DP to help speed things along.

127

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:39

make sure your "Queue Status" bar is green. :)

128

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:41

Nobody can see it until it is your pick.
And then all they will see is the pick at the top of it unless they drill down.
I never ever drill down, I just hit select and make the pick.

Cliff

129

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:43

bingo.

130

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:47

Yeah, I know how to use the queue feature, this is "only" my 5th draft on OTC.

I'm adding you as a DP now Sarge.

Keep it moving.

131

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:48

If he had left a queue, his designated pickers would see that and it would say Unavailable if he did not turn it on.
If memory serves me right, though, the only ones that will see that are the Designated Pickers.

Cliff

132

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:53

Electros post 70 says he named myself and barilko as DP's. Buut on the draft page, it shows his queue as "unavailable/empty". Meaning, I'm thinking, that he didnt make it available after populating it.

133

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:53

post 79, not 70.

134

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:57

Or he did make it available, but it is now empty.
I'm pretty sure the moment there is nobody left in it, that it becomes unavailable.

Cliff

135

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 17:58

true enough. If he put 11 in it, there were 13 picks since his last selection. It indeed could have been emptied out on him.

136

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 18:03

well, if he times out, it'll be ta approx 10:12 central. My pick will occur within a minute of that (unless I lose my i-net connection at home again). SO FRCIK, worse case, it'll be your pick between 10:12 and 10:14 this evening central. (I'll name you Cliff as DP for me, just in case I lose my connection.)

137

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 19:39

I didn't make the queue unavailable. At least it didn't go on as long as yersterday. Once again I apologize.

138

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 21:21

Once again left a queue. This time I made it available. Same DP's. Thanks.

139

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 21:45

np at all.

140

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 22:54

not trying to speak out of turn, but we're gonna have to do better than 5 picks/day, or it'll be the 2007 season before we're done. ;)

141

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 22:59

Yeah...this has been pretty slow moving...

142

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 23:53

If we don't pick it up, we're gonna have to drop the time to 4 hours. and possibly keep things going on the weekend

143

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 23:54

Agree... Agree and Agree

144

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:00

did the site just crash? I was in, hit refresh and I get a Debug Mode, error msg.

145

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:01

phpBB : Critical Error

Error updating sessions table

DEBUG MODE

SQL Error : 1030 Got error 30 from storage engine

UPDATE phpbb_sessions SET session_time = 1155182370, session_page = 0 WHERE session_id = '3d724123f8dc5982eb97b8082991cf77'

Line : 350
File : sessions.php

146

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:04

message_die() was called multiple times. This isn't supposed to happen. Was message_die() used in page_tail.php?

post 145 is what I get in Firefox and right above is what I get from IE.

147

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:17

yeh, looks like it crashed
fred should get it in the morning

148

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 00:25

almost want to say "good". lol That means it isnt just me or my pc. :)

149

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 08:38

Nice run guys.
I'm up and about.
Have a meeting first thing this morning at work, but will leave a queue and a couple of DPs if I'm not going to be able to check.

Cliff

150

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 09:13

OK, have 3 names in my queue.
Will probably cut it to 2 before I walk out the door.
Will turn it on when I leave for work.

Will only cover Round 4 and I'll look when I get to work for Round 5.

Cliff

151

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 09:28

Moss this late in the 4th is good value...

152

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 09:58

OK, leaving for work.
2 names in the queue and on.
So, could be empty before it gets to me.
Will look when I get to the office.

Cliff

153

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 11:01

got an email telling me I'm Wiggs DP, but his queue is either unavailable or empty. :(

154

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 11:13

I got the same email.

I sent him a message when he logged on with his MSN, but maybe I just missed him.

155

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 13:23

Whoever picked for me, thanks.
Out of one meeting.
Next one is at 1100 my time then 1215.
Will try to update things and my queue and turn it back on.
Should be fine for now since we just went past me.

Cliff

156

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 13:28

took the top name. didnt even open the drop down, just clicked your default queue listing.

157

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 13:42

Thanks sarge.
That's what I was saying earlier, that it is easy just to take the top name and you don't even need to open it.

Really good functionality and works great.

Cliff

158

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:02

email from promize asking for a list of whats been teken. List sent. Gonna give him a few minutes to reply before ppicking for him.

159

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:03

say 30 minutes off the clock? No response by then, I'll select his top queued pick for him.

160

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:12

trading emails with him now

161

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:19

dont know who picked for Promize, but.......

162

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:19

haha...

Oops, I saw his queue and picked for him.

I can stop the clock and let him reply...

163

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:22

Ok, I stopped the draft and deleted the pick I made for him.

Let me know what he chooses to do, and I can reinstate the player he had in his queue if he wants.

Sarge...its not the same player who is listed number 1 in his queue now...so let me know.

164

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:26

lol I'll advise him

165

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:28

email sent to him along with my work ph nr. he can call me if he gets the chance.

166

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:35

no response since he sent me this:

Do me a favor, if my next turn comes up before i get home around 5:30-6
eastern...

Send me an email telling me what has been drafted ahead of me first.

Probably going to shoot for a second QB, but I guess I'm in need of a top
WR now as well

167

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:38

lol...ok Sarge, let me know

Note to all managers. As commissioner I can pick from people's queues as well. Maybe I shouldn't be doing it, I don't know? What do you guys think?

BI guess you can send me a quick email to ignore your queues and just leave them to the designated picker, or if you are changing your mind like what just happened, email me as well so I don't make a pick you don't want.

168

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:40

I'm going to be unavailable on and off all evening. I've got two picks coming up and I really don't want to use the same queue for both. I want to set one queue for the first pick. And then two different queues for the second pick. Which of those two queues get used for the second pick will depend on who I get in the first pick. Would anyone be willing to take instructions like that for me?
(This may be moot considering my first pick could come around before I leave around 4:30EST)
Thanks
russelldl

169

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:44

I won't be overly available this evening. I have hockey tonight and then out for beers. I am hoping my picks come around to me before that happens too...

170

barilko6
ID: 30728108
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:48

Russell...if your pick gets to you before 4:30, I will still be around at that point, so I can pick immediately after you, putting you right back on the clock.

Since your picks sandwich mine, I recommend you don't send me your queue, even though I have my 8 guys lined up already for my 2 picks.

171

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:51

I'm very hopeful we can run through them before I leave.

172

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:56

been an hour now w/o word. How long you want to give him to get back to me barilko?

173

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:00

in the mean time, can we get the list of picks cut and pasted onto this board. I want to be ready for mine and I need to update who's been taken.

174

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:03

See we are stopped and Barilko and Sarge are sorting out Promize's pick.

Getting ready to go to my 3rd meeting for today.
As I said before, Thurs is my killer day.
Not sure what my evening looks like, so don't want to volunteer to take Russells directions.

Cliff

175

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:09

1.01 Larry Johnson RB KAN wiggs
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDG GolfFreak
1.03 Shaun Alexander RB SEA GoatLocker
1.04 Peyton Manning QB IND jtserb
1.05 Clinton Portis RB WAS dwfffan
1.06 Tiki Barber RB NYG promize
1.07 Carson Palmer QB CIN Stuck60
1.08 Carnell Williams RB TAM electroman
1.09 Steven Jackson RB STL sarge33rd
1.10 Ronnie Brown RB MIA Frick
1.11 Tom Brady QB NWE russelldl
1.12 Willis McGahee RB BUF barilko6
2.01 Reggie Bush RB NOR barilko6
2.02 Eli Manning QB NYG russelldl
2.03 Donovan McNabb QB PHI Frick
2.04 Brian Westbrook RB PHI sarge33rd
2.05 Daunte Culpepper QB MIA electroman
2.06 Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA Stuck60
2.07 Edgerrin James RB ARI promize
2.08 Jake Delhomme QB CAR dwfffan
2.09 Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI jtserb
2.10 Marc Bulger QB STL GoatLocker
2.11 Rudi Johnson RB CIN GolfFreak
2.12 Chad Johnson WR CIN wiggs
3.01 Terrell Owens WR DAL wiggs
3.02 Torry Holt WR STL GolfFreak
3.03 LaMont Jordan RB OAK GoatLocker
3.04 Steve Smith WR CAR jtserb
3.05 Marvin Harrison WR IND dwfffan
3.06 Antonio Gates TE SDG promize
3.07 Julius Jones RB DAL Stuck60
3.08 Anquan Boldin WR ARI electroman
3.09 Drew Bledsoe QB DAL sarge33rd
3.10 Michael Vick QB ATL Frick
3.11 Kevin Jones RB DET russelldl
3.12 Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT barilko6
4.01 Domanick Davis RB HOU barilko6
4.02 Willie Parker RB PIT russelldl
4.03 Reggie Wayne WR IND Frick
4.04 Trent Green QB KAN sarge33rd
4.05 Joseph Addai RB IND electroman
4.06 Jamal Lewis RB BAL Stuck60
4.07 Jake Plummer QB DEN promize
4.08 Kurt Warner QB ARI dwfffan
4.09 Randy Moss WR OAK jtserb
4.10 Chris Chambers WR MIA GoatLocker
4.11 Reuben Droughns RB CLE GolfFreak
4.12 Warrick Dunn RB ATL wiggs
5.01 Roy Williams WR DET wiggs
5.02 Brett Favre QB GNB GolfFreak
5.03 Chester Taylor RB MIN GoatLocker
5.04 Hines Ward WR PIT jtserb
5.05 Darrell Jackson WR SEA dwfffan

176

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:10

Should we just let him have his whole 6 hour time slot?

Not sure...he asked you to wait, but did he specify how long?

177

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:16

got his response:

I'll probably leave work in about an hour.

Just hold off...
I have a feeling it is going to be A. Brooks, but I need WR's

Dirk

178

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:17

If that is the case, in about an hour, then Russell, it sounds like you will have to leave a queue.

179

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:19

go ahead and restart the clock. His 6 hr clock started approx 1 hr 20 minutes ago. He'd still have 4 hr 40 minutes or thereabouts.

180

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:20

Clock started.

I will be here until about 6:30 EST tonight. So hopefully we can get to my picks by then...

181

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 15:41

With the clock stoppage factored in, Promize has until 7:59 to make his pick.

182

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:25

Just to make sure, our flex position is for either a WR or RB??

Don

183

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:35

or TE

184

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:39

Actually with Yahoo I had to pick either WR/RB or WR/TE. There was no WR/RB/TE option, so I went with the WR/RB.

185

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:48

OK, sounds good, need to change my spreadsheet.

Cliff

186

Promize
ID: 141018197
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:16

Ok sorry, I guess I should of left it as is... But this draft as I said before is confusing me... But I really didn't want to be left without a decent second QB with the point system...

187

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:18

ROFLMAO ALL of that, and THEN you went with the default pick anyway????????? Just for that Dirk....my squad is gonna HURT your squad. :)

188

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 17:28

I've set my queue and can be used for both rounds, I think I've ordered the guys correctly, I guess I'll see.

189

russelldl
ID: 42738917
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:05

I've got my queue set and it can be used for both rounds also.

190

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:28

I am out of here until 9:00 EST. With the way things are going, I probably won't be up yet anyways...

191

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:31

If someone is around now, I can leave them my cell number for them to call me when I am up...

Just be ready to tell me who the last 5 guys picked are...

Otherwise I will check in at 9.

192

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:32

sarge33rd@hotmail.com if you want to email your nr, I'll give ya a holler if it comes around to oyu.

193

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:34

Alright Sarge...Will send it.

194

culdeus
ID: 376401719
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:52

Hey promize. You forget this was a keeper league?

;-)

195

Promize
ID: 141018197
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 18:58

Play per year is my style :)

Win a few, lose a few Mr. Clay.

196

FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:39

I used russelldl's queue. If barilko picks I'll use it again, per post 189.

197

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:08

just got home, checking now

198

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:09

did the site crash? I cant get kafenatid to open

199

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:15

crashed for me sarge... I dont remember the site ever crashing in previous years.

200

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:18

Can't get in either.
Fred just changed servers etc, wonder if that isn't the problem.

I'll see if I've got his email somewhere and drop him a line.

Cliff

201

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:20

OK, just emailed Fred to give him a heads up.

Cliff

202

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:50

sites up, I got hold of Barilko , but he didnt put me down as a DP. lol He's on his way home now, so wont be long.

203

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 21:29

ok, barilko called and gave me his login/pw so I've made his picks, russells, fricks and mine.

205

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 01:11

left a 2 man que should dw pick tonight. I will check tomorrow ocassionally during the day for my pick coming back around.

206

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:11

OK, picked and GF picked.
Wiggs and GF coming back around.
Will check as soon as I get to work.
Not sure where I'm going to go yet.

Cliff

207

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 11:00

got an email saying I'm DP for wiggs...but his queue is empty.

Guys...when you make a queu...look at how many picks between now and your next pick. Then put MORE than that many players into the queue.

208

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 11:35

I think that Wiggs set most of us up to be his DP.

I'm assuming that the ends don't get a double clock?

209

barilko6
ID: 5673119
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 12:00

No double clock. Does anyone know if Wiggs is around or what his schedule is usually like?

210

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 12:01

Right Frick. Single clock time on the "ends".

211

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 13:46

egads...heading into the middle of the draft and on the corner, not a good place to time-out.

WIGGS---you're under an hour left.

212

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 14:08

Ugh, I hear ya sarge.
Hate to see a time out this early.

Cliff

213

barilko6
ID: 5673119
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 14:20

Yeah...

I wonder if he would be willing to trade these two picks for my next two picks, straight up. You know, just so he doesn't time out... :)

214

barilko6
ID: 5673119
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 14:31

re 207:

Very good point. If you leave a queue, then at least you are covered should something happen to your internet/work etc.

215

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 14:36

I'd be willing to give him a little extra time. I know he left a queue but probably screwed up activating it.

Don

216

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 15:23

standby Cliff, it'll be your turn in 5 hrs 20 minutes.

217

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 15:24

sarge,
Was just thinking that same thought.

Cliff

218

wiggs
ID: 406342319
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 16:02

sorry guys, big day today, I will tell you all about it when I get a chance. I made my picks, they werent what I wanted, but I needed to get them in.

219

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 16:04

glad you could make it wiggs.

220

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 16:15

OK, I'm going to be out of pocket for a bit.
Put two names in a queue and made it available.
So, when GF picks, somebody can pick for me.

Cliff

221

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:32

Made the queued picks for Goat and JT...moving right along!

Sarge, you going to be around tonight?

222

Promize
ID: 141018197
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:39

Hosting a poker tourney tonight, so will peek in when I can.

223

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:51

I am heading out soon, but would be willing to give my cell # to someone who would be willing to call me and update me on the last 6 picks, and then make my picks for me.

Otherwise I will be back to check around 11:30ish EST.

224

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:53

mostly I'm sure. (its what happens when you have no life)

Cliff...nice pickup on TJ. I was "hoping" he'd fall back to me, but wasnt counting on it.

225

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:54

I've still got your cell from yesterday

226

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 17:55

Alright Sarge....

And don't worry...

I have designated you as a picker! If you call and get my machine, that must mean I am playing the field.

I play baseball tonight.

227

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 18:05

BOL tonight.

228

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 21:52

well, barilko set me as DP, but his queue is empty and he's playing ball. (got his voice mail) I'd wager, we're prolly done for the day/night.

229

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 21:55

Leave a two player queue.
GF takes Plax, I get TJ.
Figure the odds of that.
And they were in that order.

So sarge, blame it on GF.

Cliff

230

barilko6
ID: 25910718
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:48

Made my picks...

Picked from the queues...Sarge, you are up!!!

231

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:50

Made Fricks pick from his queue.
Sarge is up

Cliff

232

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:50

So I was out playing golf this morning when I got a phone call on my cell. My wife and I have been working on adopting a child and we were finally approved today. We went up to pick him up directly from the golf course, I didnt even finish my round. so therefore, my fantasy draft was not the 1st thing on my mind.

We adopted a little boy, 6 years old. great little kid. My wife and I are totally psyched. We just got him to sleep, and that was not easy, but nothing worth having ever is.

233

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 23:09

WIGGS!!!! Congratulations and kudoes to the both of you!!!!

234

Frick
ID: 27111122
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 23:16

Congrats. Is this your first child?

I wish you the best of luck on a smooth
transition.

235

wiggs
ID: 51723111
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 23:18

yes 1st child.

236

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 23:27

Congrats, wiggs. Being a parent is awesome. I'm happy for you and your wife and think it is absolutely great that you have this opportunity to bring love and joy into this child's life.

237

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 01:29

Wiggs, congrats to both you and your wife.
Great news and I'm sure you will enjoy.
This is so very special for you two.

Live every minute of it and you will all enjoy a full and great life.

Cliff

238

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 06:57

First off, congrats Wiggs... What a great thing to do. Hope your family does well over the next 100 years :)

I'm going to be golfing today guys, but I will leave a queue for this round and next. If it gets that far. I do not want the queue to be used if 3 picks make it today before I get back please.

Thanks

239

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 07:55

Wiggs:

What an incredible journey you've begun. Good luck!

Don

240

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 08:35

Wiggs, that says a lot about you as a person. It is a wonderful thing that you have done. Congrats.

241

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 09:19

Congrats Wiggs!

Best Wishes to you and your wife!!!

242

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 09:26

Sarge...

Thanks for the call last night! Sorry I didn't call you back, but by the time I got it, the game was over and I was heading home. I wasn't too much later then when you called. Plus...it was late, wasn't sure if I was going to wake you up!

However in my haste to get online, sign in to Kafenatid, and make my picks, somehow I managed to end up with Tatum Bell and David Carr....

Haha...no, i am actually happy with both picks. I think Tatum would have went in the second round if it weren't for Shanahan's stupid "Mike Bell is going to start" comment.

*Crosses Fingers*

243

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 10:01

soooooooooooo did you win? :)

244

FRICK
ID: 541092420
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 10:15

Guys, just a heads up, if it gets back around to me I have 1 player
in my queue. I would add more, but when I got to my old house
my PC has decided to die. I can't get my spreadsheet up on this
computer. I should be back at the in-laws late this evening and I
should be able to either make my pick or set up a longer queue.

Sorry for the delay, but wanted to give you a head's up.

245

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 10:36

Congrats Wiggs! Best of luck!

246

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 11:02

re 243: Split a double header....

Got a shutout in the second game though, so that was a good finish.

247

dwfffan
ID: 15954811
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 12:49

Congrats Wiggs!

248

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 19:05

Hey Goat!
Your last pick!
It made me say %$%#&@*#*($^^@$$#^%$@##!!!!!

249

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 20:18

Your last pick just made me say the same thing... Was sort of hoping Evans would drop down to me.. He has a future, just doesn't have a QB to help that future at this point.

250

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 22:27

Jtserbs pick was number one in my queue,
that was number 2, once again

251

russelldl
ID: 42738917
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 03:49

My queue is set for my next 2 picks. I'll be gone most of the day sunday so i think that should carry me until then.
(yes, I am up at 4am)
russelldl

252

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 05:09

I'll probably set one today as well, as I will probably be on the golf course again. Seems we doing pretty good on picks and time. Half way through the draft and still about 2+ weeks till opening day.

Some of the slowness can definitely be blamed on me cause of work etc.

253

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 08:14

I will be here most of the day...I can check queues.

Will be gone for baseball again later tonight, but will get that all straighted out again so my picks get entered fast.

This draft is definitely different. It will be interesting to see who managers grab from the remaining pool of available players to fill roster spots, and then reserve bench spots. I have to admit I am surprised by some strategies so far...

255

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 14:39

Seems we doing pretty good on picks and time.

I count 10 picks since noon Fri. I would not agree with that contention Promize.

256

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 14:40

my bad, since midnight Fri.

257

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 14:59

I would have liked to make a few more picks this weekend. I am available more during the weekend, have no access at work. I guess that is what the queue is for.

258

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 15:12

I hear ya. I'd like to have made at least a pick over the weekend.

259

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 15:45

oh my god, I fell apart with this draft. Friday night was messed up because I picked without my sheets, then last night we went to a wedding and I asked a buddy to pick for me and he didnt pick the guys I asked him to, he picked who he thought I needed. oh my.

260

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 15:48

Yeah...we've been light on picks this weekend.

I guess we can still console in the fact we have some extra time before the season starts...

Its just hard to login all the time and not see your name being up soon...lol

261

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 16:03

I think this time can also drive you crazy for the fact that you look at your picks, and over analyze them. I see about three rounds where now I would have done differently.

262

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 16:18

think I'd be looking for new friends there wiggs. ;)

263

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 16:45

Hey Sarge, looks like you are going to make a pick this weekend:)

264

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 16:49

WOOT! 2...mine and DP'd for Frick. (whose default queue player was my nr2 option has someone else taken my nr1 lol)

265

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 16:58

Should turn pretty the corner pretty quick if the queue's are set up.

266

russelldl
ID: 42738917
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 17:03

I wouldnt go anywhere sarge. I made my pick and I imagine barilko will make his pretty fast also. it could be back to you in no time.

267

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 17:20

:) one can hope!

268

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 17:52

I wouldnt go anywhere sarge.

Think I'm gonna go somewhere now. lol

269

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 17:55

Think Barilko is playing Baseball tonight, so would guess we are done.

Cliff

270

russelldl
ID: 42738917
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 18:04

well, whenever his pick is made, I've left a queue for mine.

271

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:33

I was wondering, think we all could get together 1 time this week... maybe like 9:30 pm eastern or so and kick a few rounds out...?

272

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:42

works for me. Hell, in one hour, we should knock out 4 or 5 rounds.

273

FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:52

Next week would be really tough for me. I'm travelling for a training class.

Sarge, My #2 pick was the Bears D, so if you had pick Rod Smith, russeldl would have been out of luck.

I originally had the Bears above Smith, but when I looked at russldl's and barilko's rosters they had a grand total of 2 WR's, so I thought I could grab Da Bears after the turn.

Woops, I just saw that promize grabbed Carolina 6 picks prior. If I had known that I might have changed the order, probably not though.

My queue is currently empty, I can't access my spreadsheet here at the in-laws, if it makes it back to me I'll pick around 8AM tomorrow morning.

274

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:55

if anyone needs to leave a queue I will be available til about 230 tomorrow, maybe we can fly through a round or so. If not, no biggy.

275

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 22:39

Mon-Fri Im always available from 7:30 p.m. through 12 am

276

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 23:21

I am here...sorry all. I want to make my pick, but before I do, what do we want to do if a player isn't in the Kafenatid database, but he is in Yahoo?

Will wait for an answer from someone before I pick...

277

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 23:23

Ok...ignore my last idiot post. I will make my picks...

278

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 23:35

Sorry about that delay guys, usually I am right on top of the picks.

Sarge, next time feel free to give me a call and kick my ass. My picks are always filed away in the back of my head...

(But I have to admit I was hoping Joe Horn would drop down to me...)

279

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 00:16

OK all.
There are 5 in my queue and it is available.
So, if they all go, you'll have to wait on me to get up in the morning.

Will still be before 9, East Coast Time.

Cliff

280

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 00:46

FRICK---2 in my queue in case you pick my first choice. Put you on my DP list so as soon as you pick yours, mine will come up. Go ahead and hit it for me when you make your pick, so things dont bog down waiting on me.

Thanks.

281

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 06:29

The queue is only for this round. Thanks. I should be around to make my other pick.

282

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 08:38

I just my pick and Sarge's. I apologize for the delay everyone. I will set up a queue for 2 rounds before I leave. I should be at my hotel by 9-10 PM and will check in.

283

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:22

OK, will leave my queue up and check when I get to work.
Will be spending the afternoon at the cardiologists, so will see where we are at before I go and set my queue appropriately.

Cliff

284

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 10:46

Just plugged in a bunch of queued picks...

Golf is up!

285

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 10:58

I've set up a queue of 14 players.

Hopefully that will be enough.

286

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 11:01

roflmao One would certainly like to think so!

287

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 11:14

Frick...

I am going to go out on limb here and say, that since you have the 12th next pick, you should be ok...

288

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 12:13

THATS why I like you barilko. Always willing to step forward and take a chance. ;)

289

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 12:51

You can never win if you always go with the safe picks...

290

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 16:07

Golf is down to about 40 minutes on his clock...does anyone have contact info for him other than his email??

291

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 16:33

Heading out for dinner and then Poker. Depending on how well I do, I don't know when I will be back to check in, but it most likely won't be later than 11:00 EST.

Sarge, if I come up before then, you can give me a shout on the cell if you are around...

J

292

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:23

Sorry Gents!
Work issues. Q is loaded with over 50 players. Goat your choice if its out. On road next 2-3 days not sure If there any ISP access. Sorry again.

293

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:47

Electro--I added you as a DP. When you make your pick, go ahead and take my default from my queue. :)

Thanks

294

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 22:24

Barilko is enrout to his home. Says he'll pick within 15 or so minutes.

295

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 22:38

PIcked for me, Russell and Frick.

Sarge...you are up!

Almost everyone I had queued up was taken with the last 12 picks...lol

296

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 22:39

ohhhhhhhhhhh was hoping colts d would fall yet. nice pickup Barilko.

297

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 22:58

Thanks Sarge!

I was actually targeting the Seahawks, but they went a little earlier than I had hoped. But to be honest, I thought the Colts would be gone by now, so I am happy with how things worked out.

298

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:22

Made all the queued up picks...

Wiggs is on the clock!

Was looking at going with Suggs with one of my last two picks...but...I didn't. (How is that for some solid rationale?)

299

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:28

I made my picks, we have turned the corner yet again,

300

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:40

I like your Cutler pick Wiggs...maybe not for this year, but for the future...

301

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:55

Wow...this is the fastest series of picks yet! Good work!

302

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:56

OK, made GFs, mine, and JTSerbs picks.
It is on to Stuck.

Cliff

303

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 11:33

i needed a keeper QB, I am hurting at that position.

I never would have guess QBs would shoot off the board at that speed.

304

barilko6
ID: 37717158
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:40

I was looking at hopefully getting Cutler or Leinert late...but both are now gone! :(

305

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 13:37

made mine and Fricks..russel is up. :)

306

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 13:39

I never would have guess QBs would shoot off the board at that speed.

Indeed. Caught me on the wrong foot. Then I didnt help myself when I took Green vs Plummer back in rd 4. Was ready to take Bledsoe when I saw Green still on the board. Lept at him w/o looking first. oh-noooooooooooo mr bill! Green had same bye week as Bledsoe. Means I needed 2 more starters or take a POOR showing in week 3.

307

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:10

queue of 4 set. (should make it back to me with at least 2 of them I think) Frick, russel and barilko set as DPs. If my queue empties, I prolly wont be more than 15-20 minutes behind checking and picking anyway. :)

308

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:30

picked...electro is up

309

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:40

I hope I play Sarge in week 3

310

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:44

no faith in Frye/Holcomb huh? :)

311

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:56

I actually think Frye could have a good year. The fact he has to play Baltimore week 3...now that is another story!

313

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:00

lol Yea, but I dont see him putting up negative points for that week, so he's better than starting a bye week player.

314

russelldl
ID: 97571513
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:00

I completely screwed myself. i set a queue last night for my pick after barilko. I got stuck in court all morning and by the time I made it back I had two picks go by. now I've got 4QBs.

315

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:03

That's ok Russell...Sarge has 5! hehe

Besides...now they are valuable trade chips for the owners who only have 2!

316

sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:19

lol yep...5. Why?

Johnson is 37 years old. T Jackson. if he isnt inept, will be taking over those reins in the near future. SInce this is a keeper league, he has potential.(Though atm its a long-shot.) His trade value however, skyrockets with a Johnson injury.

Frye, has definitive potential to develop into a keeper. With Green and Bledsoe aging, I dont know that I'll be high on naming either/both as keepers come end of the year. I might, but I wanted other options due to their respective ages.

Holcomb...was a needed acquisition, when I screwed up and took Green in addition to Bledsoe when I should have taken Plummer.

Holding 5 though, with 4 as starters, gives me trade options come later in the year.

I think at RB, I'm holding 2 definite keepres (league limit for any one position) though I also hold 2 who could turn into such. (Potentially necessary, if Westbrook gets hurt yet again.)

WR...thin, but 2 who could turn into keepers and one guy whose not a "stud" but is a very solid WR. (Driver)

317

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 19:06

Man, this draft moved fast today. I had a queue set up for 13, but my wife made it unavailable by accident. This should be over by the weekend.

318

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 19:56

Sarge...

Nice write-up on your QB's!

You should give me the rationale for your last couple of picks so I can plan my strategies now...

319

Promize
ID: 141018197
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 02:30

I have to ask, was Wiggs last pick correct? You are really going to carry two placekickers on your team?

320

Frick
ID: 337141423
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 06:56

I'm not sure about Wiggs, but I had 3 D's in my queue, I didn't really want 2 of them, but I didn't leave specific instruction. That's my fault, so I'll live with it.

I have left a queue that should get me through the next 2 rounds. I'll be in training all day and won't have access until 7-8 PM this evening.

321

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 08:04

I didn't make Wiggs' picks. He didn't leave a queue, meaning he made them himself...

322

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 09:12

Made the queue picks and we are back around to Sarge.

I really like this Kafenatid...Supplying the grids, allowing for queues, emailing us when we are up.

323

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 09:30

gotta agree with you there. First time I've been on the site, and I'll admit in a hurry, I like the way Fred has it setup. Intuitive, complete. What more could you really want?

324

wiggs
ID: 7747169
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 11:50

yes, I picked 2 kickers, only because I didnt have my cheat sheets and I didnt want to hold up the draft any longer.

325

barilko6
ID: 37717158
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 12:31

Nice late round low risk/high reward pick with Priest.

326

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 15:09

OK, just got out of a meeting.
Give me a few minutes and I will pick.
Sorry for the delay.

Cliff

327

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 19:08

There was a bit of a problem with my pick in rd 16. I put a queue with three players to make a pick in 15. One obviously got left over, and was picked for me, 10 minutes before I was getting in touch with my wife to make my pick. I didn't want Wilkins. What can we do to rectify this.

328

barilko6
ID: 37717158
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 20:28

When leaving a queue, you should always send a little note if you have specific directions for the picks. Either here, or via email.

My thoughts: I can delete the pick and insert someone else, but I don't think it would be fair to back up the draft and insert someone who has already been taken.

Any other thoughts from managers?

329

russelldl
ID: 497571617
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 20:50

this same thing has happened to several of us (see post 314). So I don't want to be difficult but if you do it for one person it needs to be done for everyone.

330

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 21:09

That is true...

And in a somewhat related topic, somehow I managed to end up with Willis and Reggie as my first two picks???

331

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 21:11

It's ok. I set the queue at about 5:30 am, when I got up, and was still groggy. Should have left a note, but was rushing.

332

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 21:14

I guess we can always look at it as being your 16th round pick---the fourth last player chosen for your roster. Once rosters are set, you will have over 2 weeks to make unlimited changes..not sure how that affects things?

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barilko6
ID: 16529229
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 21:15

On a very related topic...my team is without kicker at this point of the draft...

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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 21:47

join the club. K comes with the last rd of the draft.

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Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 06:56

Let the handicapping begin!

As soon as the final picks are made, let's establish our preseason favorites!

Don

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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 06:56

Made electros, mine and Fricks. 2 picks more and this draft is complete! :)

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Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 07:50

Wow!
That was fast.

So, in order of selection, here's my take:

Wiggs: Strengths: WR - with T.O., Chad Johnson and Roy Williams, Wiggs has the best 3-man combo in our league.
Weaknesses: QB with McNair and Pennington. McNair will go on the DL by Week 7 while Pennington doesn't have the OL he'd need, even if he were capable of producing decent numbers.

GF: Strengths: RB - with Rudi, Droughns and LT, this is the class of the league at the position
Weaknesses: WR: With Koren Robinson probably spending the next few weeks in jail, and possibly a lot longer, GF needs more depth than he has.

GL: I like this team a lot. Cliff has assembled a strong crop of WR in Housh, Coles and Chambers, while anchoring his RBs with the league's leading rusher.
Weaknesses: Leftwich will be a problem. His numbers are always suspect and he's an injury risk. Even Jag fans were yelping for Garrard last season.

JTSerb: Strengths: Peyton can conceivably win the QB contest all by himself. And if Warner gets hurt, Leinart could step in and give JTS the clear edge at the position. And then there's a potentially dominating group of WRs in Fitzgerals, Smith and Moss. The acquisition of Keyshawn Johnson might make Smith's TD numbers go up, even if his yardage decreases a bit. Bucs D could surprise.
Weaknesses: Shockey will succumb to injury before the season's half over and, even if he doesn't, his strong dislike for Coughlin will create problems of its own.

Dwiffan:One of the most balanced teams we have.
No one category is overwhelming but, with the exception of QB (Warner,Delhomme)each is strong.
Maroney could be the rookie of the year if Dillon goes down on schedule and Brandon Lloyd could have a better year than Santana Moss - yup, you heard it here first!

For me, the team that shows a lot of Promize is:
well, Promize. I love the combination of James, Barber and Fred Taylor. The QBs seem a bit weak, especially Brooks, but with Gates and the Carolina D, this is a strong team. Even the bench (with Bruce, Barlow and Young) is impressive.

Stuck60: Strengths: QB. If Palmer comes back by the second or third week and combines with Hasselbeck for the rest of the season, these two could challenge Peyton.
Weaknesses: WR. Mediocre group, especially compared to the competition. At RB, Julius Jones has yet to be named the starter. Even if he does start, Barber is sure to steal minutes.

Electroman: Strengths: Phillip Rivers spent quite a while learning Marty's system while Brees was the starter. Now, he should be able to finesse most of the problems typically encountered by first-year starters. If Culpepper's knee holds up, these two, in addition to Brees, could be competitive.
Weaknesses: If Addai plays behind Dominic Rhodes, putting up numbers from the RB position could be tough.

Sarge: Another team that won't dominate at any position, but is incredibly strong overall. If Westbrook manages to stay off IR, then the RBs will lead the way.
Weaknesses: Jets D could be a bottom dweller most of the season.

Frick: Strengths: With Brown, Foster and Gore (who seems primed for a breakout year) Frick could have the best 1-2-3 punch in the league at RB. Chris Simms could move into the starting lineup if Vick disappoints.
Weaknesses; WR crop, none of whom figure to put up big numbers.

Russell: Strengths: Bears D will lead the stats race most of the season.
Weaknesses: RB. Among Dillon, Kevin Jones and the Deuce, we're talking about two that may not even start!

Barilko: Strengths: This team is a potential powerhouse. McGahee, Bush and Davis presents enough balance to score well each week while Kitna may be the QB sleeper of the year. Weaknesses: TE and Colts D, which I think is overrated.

I make Promize and Barilko the joint preseason favorites.

Don

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barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 08:19

Nicely done all!

As soon as we make the final two picks, I will have time today to enter the rosters. On Tuesday, I leave for a week, so if there is an error on your roster please let me know before I head out.

I will also provide my thoughts soon...

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barilko6
ID: 37717158
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 10:09

Teams are all entered. Waiver Priority Set.

The one thing that threw me off is that Maurice Drew is listed with a last name of Jones-Drew.

Otherwise check your rosters and let me know if there are any errors.

J

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barilko6
ID: 37717158
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 10:51

Thoughts of Teams:

Wiggs: Pulled one of the 3 lottery spots and ended up with Larry. Nothing like waking up Football Morn with the Number 1 pick! Then Wiggs decided to pull a Microsoft and monopolize almost every good WR on the board! Great Receivers and Defense combos, RB's will be solid. Weak at QB. Sleeper of the team: Roy Williams

GolfFreak: LT would have been my number one pick. Somehow most of the rest of us fell asleep and allowed Rudi to fall all the way down to him with the second last pick of the second round. Nice score there. Also looking good with a sleeper Seattle defense. Weaknesses here are QB. Sleeper of the Team: Seattle Defense.

Goatlocker: Got the 3rd #1 option choice in Alexander. That is like going to a Maxim Hot Chicks Party and ending up getting "stuck" with the 3rd best looking girl there. Also picked up some solid support with Jordan, Holt, and Bulger. Very solid team all around with a great crew at RB. Sleeper of the Team: Drew Bennett

JTSerb: Pushing RB back to the 7th round is risky, but picked up a top 4 WR crew that would make Mike Martz giggle like a schoolgirl. And of course nabbed Peyton, the top QB of all time that was cursed with a girls name. (Didn't his dad learn anything while hanging around a football locker room?) Did manage to get some potential at RB with Jones, Williams, and White, and now is hoping for some injuries and/or some of those guys to step up and claim the jobs. Sleeper of the Team: LenDale White.

Dwfffan: Set himself up with an all around solid team. Managed to get a great player at all 3 key positions with Portis, Harrison, and Delhomme. Hopefully Clinton can manage a Whitehouse Bill turnaround and be ready for the start of the season. I know some questioned Delhomme in the 2nd round, but given his WR's, I think he will pass more than a fat guy after Taco Bell. Added some value with Maroney and Warner. Sleeper of the Team: Would love to pick Delhomme and Warner, but they were pretty high picks, so I will go with Micheal Jenkins.

Promize: Great crew at RB with Tiki, Edge, and Fred---if Fred manages to stay healthy. Also picked up the top TE and the top Defense. If Oakland can get their heads on straight, Brooks can become a top QB, something that Saints fans will curse at until they realize Brooks enabled them to get Reggie. Solid all around, especially if Vince Young gets time at the QB spot. Sleeper of the Team: Aaron Brooks

Stuck60: Great 1-2 at the QB spot, which is important in a 2 QB league. Also picked up some solid RB's and WR's. I like Joe Horn to bounce back big. Caused me to go "Who the heck is that guy?" for the first time of this draft with his pick of Jerious Norwood. Sleeper of the Team: Joe Horn. (Hopefully not Mike Bell, as I have the other two Denver RB's.)

Electroman: A good solid all around team. I like the Cadillac and Anquan to become elite at their positions this year. Culpepper, if he can be 100% could have a great year in Miami with Chambers, McMicheal, and Brown helping him out. Also like the other two QB's on the roster. If Addai can win the starting gig in Indy, watch out! Sleeper of the draft: Lots of candidates in Brees, Moulds, Burleson, Addai, and Greg Jones, but I am going with Philip Rivers.

Sarge: Steven Jackson will be a top 4/5 pick for years to come after this year. Bledsoe should enjoy using his gun to find TO, so long as they get along. I can see it now, TO getting in Drew's face and Drew introducing TO to all five of his left knuckles. As a seasoned vetern, Drew knows that you never use your throwing hand to punch a teammate. Great pickups with Green, Benson, Driver, and Clayton. A bit of a reach in my eyes with Matt Jones in the 5th, but a real great keeper option. Sleeper of the team: Cedric Benson in the 8th

Frick: A solid all around team with many key players: If the QB's live up to expectiations, and the RB's stay healthy, definitely a playoff team here. Ronnie Brown, having got rid of his marijuana problem, will now get more carries, which will give him great numbers, Gore should win the SF job, and Simms will have a good year in the Bay. Sleeper of the team: I like Simms, Gore, and Chris Cooley.

Russell: Probably the best 1-2 QB pair, at least up there with Stuck. Also managed to get a great sleeper RB with Kevin Jones. If Martz can get Kjones to be somewhat Faulkish, then Russell has a great find. If the Bears can repeat their last year's performance, and Parker and Dillon can stay their team's #1 RB, then Russell will have a good year. Sleeper of the Team: Kevin Jones and Antonio Bryant.

Barilko: Went for a little keeper potential with my first two picks of McGahee and Bush. Added some nice chips with Davis, Big Ben, Kitna, Carr, and Andre. Definitely missed out on some of the guys I had hoped for, and really relying on some of my RB's to win their jobs. Weak at TE, but will address that during the year. Sleeper of the team: Domanick Davis in the 3rd round, if he can stay healthy. Jerry Porter in the 9th round if he plays.

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sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 10:57

FWIW, here's my "take":

QB: JTSERB leads the pack here with SITS nipping right at his heels. I just really like JTs combo of Manning/Johnson early in the year. Once Warner smacks his hand again and Leinart gets some play time, how can you not like a guy whose 2 WRs are named Fitzgerald and Boldin? (Remind anyone of Clayton/Duper for Miami many years ago?) SITS: with C Palmer and Hasselbeck has a solid 1-2 right there. His 3-4 arent upto snuff with JTs, and that why JT gets the nod to top picks at this position.

RB: The problem with not having a 1st 3 pick, is that the top tier 3 RBs (we all know it too), will be gone before oyu get your selection. The problem with a top 3 pick, is that everyone else has a chance to hit the RB pool twice, before you get your second shot. If Fred Taylor stays healthy (hey, odder things happen. Afterall, someone wins the lottery every now and then), then I really like Promize squad of RBs. Afterall, whats not to like about Barber, Edge and Taylor with Barlow/T Taylor in deep reserve? I have to put my own set, Jackson/Westbrook/C Benson/C Houston/Moats into 2nd here. If Taylor goes down, then I put my set ahead of his. Electro is the wildcard here. Cadillac, Addai and if Taylor goes down G Jones along with C Brown and Blaylock....could easily find itself in the thick of things as well.

WR: JTSERB again, with GL right smack on his heels. Fitz, Smith, R Moss, H Ward...how can you not get giddy looking at that lineup? Only real concern for me there, is that A Brooks has NOT looked good in preseason and that could quickly diminish Moss's contributions.

TE/K/D...To be honest...who cares? lol These are the "odd points" here and there. The TE with a 2 TD game, the K with the 5 FG performance or the D with the 6 sack day are what carries the day for these positions. I'm not terribly concerend one way or the other with any of these.

Overall: I've been in a couple of leagues over a few years now with Goatlocaker, and he ALWAYS drafts very solidly. I would project he and JT playing for the league championship. I like my chances of making the playoffs, but beyond that, it really depends on injury status and my history in that regard does not bode well for me.

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barilko6
ID: 37717158
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 11:47

In addition to my post in 340:

Playoff Teams:

Barilko (I have to pick me!)
Promize
Goatlocker
JTSerb (if he gets 2 starting RB's from his squad)
Stuck60 (taking JTSerb's spot if he doesn't)

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Promize
ID: 141018197
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 18:03

Welp, according to Draft Dominator this is how every faired in the draft.

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sarge33rd
ID: 575352217
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 18:11

well, they seem to pretty much put me "on the cusp". Couple good breaks and I get in, couple bad ones and I dont. Basically leaves me in the position of "spoiler" for someone else.

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 18:35

Good draft, went fast. Surprised there was no trades.

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barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 18:57

Those ratings don't take into account the character and teamwork my team plans to bring to the season...

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 19:09

Just had a question about the 20$, are we still doing that?

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barilko6
ID: 16529229
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 19:12

Yeah...I think Frick had stepped up to be the treasurer...

Frick?

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GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 19:51

Goatlocker

Thanks for all the help.
Home for the nite then heading back on the road till Sunday nite.

Im in for the $20.
Heck we should just use the 2nd chart (Starters only) and everyone just send me there $20. ;)

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JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 20:41

How is that draft dominator? what other festures does it have? Is it freeware?

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Promize
ID: 141018197
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 20:47

Welp, I like it so far this year, it has helped. Culdeus last year turned me onto it after having a dismal draft in another league. :)

It isn't free, well you can download a demo version, but doesn't give you up-to-date stats, ranks, etc...

It is pretty nice, cause it gives you a bit of a forecast of upcoming picks based on other team needs.

Go google it and read about it, so far I've liked it this year and running it on the 3 current drafts im in.

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JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Thu, Aug 17, 2006, 21:54

My rantings about teams QB,RB and WR's

Wiggs

QB Mcnair and Pennington is possibly the worst combo in the leauge in my opinion. I dont see either of them doing much this year. Cutler was a good pick for a keeper league though.

RB Very solid at this position. Johnson will probally be # 1 back. Dunn puts up numbers every year, but never gets credit. I dont think Green will do much that injury ended his career pretty much IMHO. Nice gamble on Priest in the 16th round

WR Johnson and Owens will be 2 of the top 5 WR probally. Galloway and Williams could be number ones on some teams in this league

Best Value Pick: TO with the 25th pick
Biggest Reach: Vinatieri with the 120th pick

GF

QB Favre is on his last legs and Alex Smith still isnt ready. Griese could be a huge pickup though as we all no Grossmans history though

RB Tomlinson is a stud as we all know and Rudi just makes his RB starters that much better. Best starting combo in the league. Droughns would start on several teams in this league. Duckett, Moore, and Gado are there just in case of injuries, but could do something if put in the right situation.

WR Holt should be a top 10 WR, Burress I like alot and another year with Eli will only make him better. Evans im really not sure what to think I suppose he will be OK. Koren is a drunk slob that I wouldnt want on my team. Will Edwards be ok after the injury?

Best Value Pick: Rudi with the 23rd pick
Biggest Reach: Tony G with the 71st pick.. I think he is on the tail end of his career and will have a tough time being a top 7 TE

Goatlocker

QB Bulger is solid.. how will the Rams offense run without Martz though? I think Brunell will be starting over Leftwich for GL though even though he was drafted later. Just not sold on Leftwich.

RB Alexander (see Johnson or LT).. Lamont Jordan shouldnt have fell this far. I think we will all be regretting this when him an Alexander run all over our teams. Chester is a very nice backup and Drew could be a stud in the future.

WR I see alot of 60 yard TD for Chambers this year from Culpepper. He has a chance to be a top 5 WR. T.J. was solid last year and as long as Johnson stays healthy he will always be singled covered. Bennett was a great pick. Volek loves him.

Best Value Pick: Jordan with the 27th pick.. how did he fall so far?

Biggest Reach: Leftwich. He could have solified the WR situation better early and had Brunell and Bulger as the starters

JTSERB

QB: Honestly the pick I most didnt want in the draft was 4 because I knew I would take Manning due to starting 2 QBS. Would be sweet if he could put up same numbers as 2 years ago. Johnson should be solid enough to make a great combo with Manning. Leinart will see some time this year as we know Warner will get hurt. Garrard seems like the fan favorite in JAX. If Leftwich gets hurt I will promptly put Garrard in the starting lineup.

RB Im very week here. I took a chance on taking later RB and that could be my doom. Thomas Jones should start in Chicago (whats wrong with the best rushing season for a CHI Rb since Walter Payton?), but Benson will start at first because of the Money. Deangelo should start by week 3. Suggs would have been a nice pick if he didnt fail physical and get sent back to Cleveland. Lendale and Duce are picks hoping for injuries to there starters ahead of them.

WR Best starting WR in the league bar-none. Fitz will lead my team for years to come. Steve Smith will be even better (is that possible?) with Johnson there. Moss who knows really... He will be good enough, but can he be great again? Ward is a solid play week in and week out.

Best Value Pick: Jones with 88th pick if he starts.

Biggest Reach: Lee Suggs because he got traded back :(

DWF

QB: Delhomme and Warner is a solid starting combo even if I think Delhomme went to high.

RB Portis should still be a stud even with injury. Washington will run, run and run some more. Not really a second starter here.. I believe all of them are behind someone on there respective team

WR Harrison is primed for another great year and Jackson is the top WR in a high octane offense. So I like that combo. Terry Glenn was a reach in my opinion. Moss could be a great sleeper if he gets some PT.

Best Value Pick I really dont see anyone. Was a solid draft though

Biggest Reach Delhomme with the 20th pick. I had Bulger, Plummer and Warner ahead of him.

Promize

QB Plummer I have always liked and he will have another solid year in Denver's offense. Brooks is hot or miss I suppose. You know he will throw alot, but he was a big bust last year. Young will start sometime this year, but will it be to late in the season to matter? Neverthenless a nice keeper pick.

RB Tiki is getting older, but he is still a top 5 back. Edgerrin Im kinda on the fance this year. I know he will be solid, but not the same numbers as in INDY. Taylor will get hurt and Im predicting will retire this year.

WR Walker will be a good combo with Plummer. Ill put Gates here since he is pretty much a WR anyway, but might see decreased numbers with Brees gone. Moose is a bust with Chicago, Bruce is washed up. Clayton was a nice pick in the 13th round though.

Best Value Pick Plummer with the 55th pick
Biggest Reach Moose with the 127th pick

Stuck60

QB Palmer was a suprise, but even if he doesnt start will week 3 will have a solid season and he should be right behind Peyton for years to come. Hasselback completes the best QB combo in the league.

RB Does Parcel like Jones? Everyone seems to think Barber will steal carries from him, but If Jones keeps the ball off the ground he should be just fine. Jamal Lewis had a horrible year last year as all though 400+ carries caught up to him. Will Mike Bell really start? If he does great pick here.

WR Santana had a horrible year last year if you take away all those 50 60 yard TD receptions LOL.. Mason is back with Mcnair and thats speaks well for him. Joe Horn was another bust last year, but he has no where to go but up right? Like the Keyshawn pick in round 14

Best Value Pick Keyshawn with the 162nd pick

Biggest Reach Palmer if he doesnt come back healthy or reinjures himself.

Electro

QB Culpepper I dont think will be as good as he was in Minesotta as Miami will run alot more. Brees should be fine with Deuce and Bush in the backfield to take the pressure off and Horn and Stallworth out there. Everyone says Rivers has stepped right in just fine in SD.

RB Cadillac tailed off last year after starting fast due to injuries, but I like this pick. Im not sure if Addai is starting, but he went were he should have. Hopefully Chris Brown gets hurt so Lendale starts :)..

WR Anquan is a stud and will be for years to come, Branch still hasent played I believe so that could be wa question mark.

Best Value Pick Rivers with 101st pick
Biggest Reach 2 DEF and 2 PK.. kinda hurts the depth there.

Sarge

QB The 2 old verterans here with Bledsoe and Green, but both are top 15 QBs. Bledsoe should be better with TO there.

RB Sarge took the safe route with Jackson and Westbrook as his first 2 picks, but usually the safe route is the smart route. A great starting combo here. Benson has a possibilty to be a great pick if his shoulder is ok.

WR Jones was a reach IMHO, but keeper league warrants the pick a little more I suppose. Driver is the #1 in GB and was a nice pick. Overall I think his WR crew is pretty week.

Best Value Pick I really dont see one

BIggest Reach Matt Jones with the 66th pick.

Frick

QB Donovan and Vick could be great, but also could be very bad due to injury risks. If they stay healthy he should be just fine there. Simms is a nice pick in the 8th round.

RB I love Ronnie Brown and with Ricky gone I think he is primed for possibly a rushing title. Foster is and inury rish and Deangelo should be starting soon. Gore is the starter, but with SF being behind alot he wont do as good as he could.

WR Wayne is a nice pick and should put solid numbers up. Rod Smith just keeps getting older, but still keep performing. Overally a pretty week core though.

Best Value Pick Brown with 10th pick in the draft.

Biggest reach John Brown in 11th round. Kickers should never go this high EVER!

Russell

QB Brady and Manning is a great combo here. Brady will throw throw and throw some more this year again. Eli can only get better this year and has alot of weapons with Barber, Burress and Shockey.

RB Jones is a injury risk, but could be a great pick. Willie Parker will have some carries taken away from him from Deuce this year, but fell down the board a bit so it was good pick. Deuce really nobody knows. He is a great back, but how many carries will Bush steal?

WR Really nothing that stands out here. I suppose Stallworth could be a solid player.

Best Value Pick Parker with 38th pick.

Biggest Reach Grossman with in the 12th round. He hasent shown anything except he cant stay on field.

Barilko

QB Big Ben look likes he should be just fine. Kitna has a possiblity of putitng up huge numbers in detroit if they can put it all together. Carr still has the chance to be good, but this is his last chance in Houston I think. Schaub is a great pick if Vick does down.

RB McGahhee is a top 10 back. I didnt like the Bush pick. I think he went to high even if he will be great. can Davis get healthy? If he does its a nice pick in the 4th round. Tatum and Bell are hoping Denver is really going to start M Bell.

WR Andre Johnson has a chance to be great. If i remember correctly he had a solid year 2 years ago. Porter is a cry baby and he wont do much in Oakland.

Best Value Pick: Davis if he is healthy

Biggest Reach: Bush with the 13th pick. There are alot of players that should have went ahead of him. I had Bush pegged for 3rd round.

My Predicted Standings

The Favorites

Goatlocker
JTSERB
Golf Freak

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russelldl
ID: 197341713
Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 10:08

I've got to defend that 12th round pick of grossman. he was the last starting QB left on the board and I had no backup yet. So yes, he was a reach, but he was the only option.

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barilko6
ID: 37717158
Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 10:57

I love the write-ups and team disections!

And Bush, for me...

Knowing its a keeper league, I think Bush has the chance to be a stud RB in the very near future. Seeing Addai go in the 4th round backs up my thoughts that Bush had added value with his keeper potential. I've seen Bush go anywhere from 2nd-4th round in non-keeper leagues.

I am happy with where I got him, 2nd round.

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 19:16

I will drop in my 2 cents on the draft:

Wiggs

Been mentioned, but great WR corps. Unfortunatly, the QB's are injury prone and one is a back up, but a solid in a keeper draft. LJ is solid, and Dunn is good also. A friend made a few picks that weren't wanted apparently, would have liked to have seen the team without the mess up.

GolfFreak

Great trio of RB's. Like the WR bunch also. But like Wiggs, there could be a problem at QB. Gonzalez adds to the air attack.

Goatlocker

Nice solid team. No glaring problems jump out when you look over the team. Should be a tough team through out the year.

JtSerb

Peyton is a stud at QB. Garrard could be a steal if Leftwich gets hurt. Great WR's. RB position is weak IMO.

dwfffan

Like all owners of Portis, hoping that he gets back for the opener. Warner has a nice offense that he fits in to. Harrison is great. Should be a contender.

Promize

Nice group at RB. Gates is a monster, should help with a group of WR that I am not sure about. Two nice Young QB's. IMO, went early with the def. pick.

Stuck60

Must be reading everything about Palmer. If healthy, makes a nice trio of QB's. If Lewis can stay healthy, and return to form, and M. Bell is indeed the starter, nice group at that position.

Electroman

Overall, I am happy with my team. RB is my biggest ?. Could go both ways. Hope my QB's are fully recovered. Like my WR group w/Heap at TE.

Sarge33

Westbrook and Moats go hand in hand IMO. Has other nice options at that position also. As mentioned before, maybe streched with Matt Jones. QB's are old, but reliable.

Frick

This is a solid team. Very good draft. This is going to be a tough team to play through out the year also. Maybe picked a K early, but it didn't hurt him.

Russelldl

Has Brady and the other Manning, very solid. Think Parker is a little overrated, but has good RB depth. Couple of good young WR's too.

Barilko6

The commish. First off, thanks for all the work, and for the idea of the league.
Great RB's. Good WR corps. Carr could be great this year with a new coach. Nice team.

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JTSERB
ID: 32748192
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 03:53

Writeups have been good so far, hopefully everyone does them. It is my favorite part of the whole fantasy process.. well besides winning of course! GOOD LUCK TO ALL

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Promize
ID: 141018197
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:16

Easy writeup for Sarges team...

One of his studs will break his leg by week #3...

When I get back from golf I will try to do one..

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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 08:46

Here I sit after reading that, and I'm laughing. Why? Because history bears you out as more than likely, being correct. lol

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GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 19:07

I think Promize is way off there.

It will happen in PreSeason before we even see the first real game.

Has to be, Sarge told me he was changing his ways :)

Seriously all best of luck.

I'll try to get something written up.

Been the week from hell and not getting any better.

Cliff

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FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 21:40

I'll try to post some comments about the teams after I have a chance to look over them and compare them. I'm barely aware of who I took in the last several rounds. (Note, don't travel on business and then leave your laptop at the conference when trying to conduct multiple drafts. At one point I was updating my queues in the hotel lobby from memory)

One quick comment, I took the kicker when I did because he was rated significantly higher than any other player. I knew that I was going to be traveling and wanted to lock up a decent kicker. I already had the rest of my roster set, and other than stealing someone's handcuff no other pick was an obvious need for my team. (Other than WR, but at that point I don't think there was anyone that would have improved my corps of mediocore WRs)

I only wanted to draft 1 D when I took my first one, but since I didn't post specific instructions I got 2. I haven't compared their schedules yet, but if they don't work out at least they should be tradable.

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GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 23:07

Working on my comments.
Will take quite a bit of time though.

So, while I am doing that, a couple of trivia questions for all.

And I'll answer them in the morning.

Question 1
What was the biggest Change that was made by the NFL this year that had a huge impact on Fantasy Drafts?????????

Question 2
How many knew of this change?

Question 3
How many planned their drafts around this change?

Cliff

363

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 23:14

NOW you bring something like this up?

(1) I dunno
(2) Not me
(3) See (2)

364

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 00:58

re 362:

I think its the end zone celebration rule! (Although I am just getting in from a night of beer and more beer)

I purposefully didn't take Chad Johnson or T Owens because of this rule, because the NFL is cracking down hard on dances, celebrations, etc...and guys like Johnson and Owens just won't have the same motivation to find the endzone like they have had in the past.

I mean I can see it going through Johnson's head now..."Why bother scoring a touchdown if I can't do my celebration?!?"

For that reason I took Willis McGahee.

365

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 01:14

LOL Chad Johnson has already come out and said he isn't even going to recognize the new rule. Fines are no problem, he is still an entertainer.

366

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 02:50

OK,
While I'm on a roll, I'm going to answer my questions, with questions.

As a reminder, here are the Questions:
Question 1
What was the biggest Change that was made by the NFL this year that had a huge impact on Fantasy Drafts?????????
How many BYE weeks this Year
7
How many BYE weeks last Year
9
How many BYE weeks with 6 teams off
2

Question 2
How many knew of this change?
Looking at the drafts, I'm guessing 1 or 2
Question 3
How many planned their drafts around this change?
Looking at the drafts I would say 1 or 2, but 3 or 4 might have lucked out.

Not done with my analysis yet, but you can guess what the slant is.

By the way, anybody willing to let me schedule who I play when :)

Cliff

367

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 05:19

368

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 08:23

I messed up with the TE for my bye week. I took the second without looking at the bye week, they have the same. Was a little upset with myself.

369

FRICK@the in-laws
ID: 47281916
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 08:52

I was aware of the change in byes, week 6 is a killer for most fantasy teams.

Although week 3 is a killer for the RBs, LT and LJ both on bye, something I used for my strategy in the Rotoguru Auction league.

When you are leaving queues all of the time it is hard to take all of the bye week considerations into effect. My thought was take the best available player and hope to trade or get a WW player to fill in the holes.

370

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 08:55

By the way, anybody willing to let me schedule who I play when...

LOL...NO. Only week I'd be playing then, is week 3. EVERYBODY would want my backside that week.

371

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 12:40

I kept in mind all the bye weeks. I should have a great roster ready to run each and every week.

I only need to pick up a back-up TE and Kicker when the time comes...

372

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 15:13

OK, comments to follow.
Please do not take anything I have to say personal.
None of it was meant that way.
Just an old fart having fun with the way he saw the draft.

Cliff

373

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 15:21

Let me get started and see if I can get my thoughts down into some coherent format that will mean something for everybody else.

First, I think everybody knew going in I didn�t care for 6 points for passing TDs for a 2 QB league.

Really shifted the power and put a lot of other positions further out of the loop than normal.

General comments before I start.
I believe there are 7-9 critical slots for every team and those are the only ones I�m going to talk to.
QB, QB, RB, RB, WR/RB, BN, BN, BN, BN
And you can guess what the 4 bench slots better be.

Some data first that will tell you why I am saying the above. The below is quoted from TalentedMrRoto website:

� Wide receivers are way too unpredictable. Those who took Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison or Terrell Owens with an early round pick� how�d that work out for you?

TD receptions are unpredictable. I offer Jurevicious, Joe and his 10 TD as exhibit A. So I like to go by yardage.

And do you know how many WR had five or more 100 yard games last year? I mean, five is not that many, right? Basically once every three games, right? How many, do you think? I�ll give you a second.

The answer is� 8. That�s right. 31 teams, 3 main WR each�. Only 8 WR had 5 or more 100 yard games. Okay, now can you guess who they were?

Steve Smith with 9 jumps to mind, I am sure. The Arizona studs � Boldin with 8 and Fitzgerald with 7 � are next. Then two guys who went way before them in drafts � Torry Holt and Marvin Harrison with 6 each. The final three to have five 100 yard games?

Well, I don�t where they went in your draft but I am pretty sure that it was a while before Santana Moss, Eddie Kennison and Donald Driver were drafted.

And do you know how many on this list made last year�s �At least 5 games over 100 yards or more?�

Two. Torry Holt and� wait for it� Eddie Kennison of all people.

Now, we�ll go back to 2004. Know who is on the list from 2004 that is on 2006�s list? Two guys: Torry Holt and Anquan Boldin.

Three years and only one guy is on all three lists. Only two others � Boldin and Kennison � make the list more than once in three years.�

OK, that said, I�m just going through the teams in draft order.
Comments do not take injuries or players losing their starting role into account:

Wiggs:
Both starting QBs might or might not have jobs for long.
Only backup is a backup
At least week 7 and 9 with only one starting QB.
Could be OK from the RB Side, but will depend on his bench.
Lots of risk there, so could have no RB in week 3 or 5.
Flex spot will have to be a WR.

Golf Freak
Both starting QBs are questionable.
Only Backup is a Backup.
Might have 2 QB in week 6.
Only 1 QB in week 7.
Could be OK from the RB side.
Backup RBS have byes in week 5 and 6

GoatLocker
Will always have 2 Starting QB
Should always have 3 starting RB
Team was drafted 100% based on Bye weeks and best available.

JTSerb
Both starting QBs and one backup who is a backup have a Bye in week 6.
Other Backup is also a backup.
A Little dicey at RB, but should be OK

Dwfffan
Both starting QBs have a bye in week 9.
Only backup is a backup
RB is a little tricky depending on PT for some of them, but could work out okay

Promize
Unless his backup who is a backup wins the starting job right away (bye weeks are 3 and 4), he will have two early weeks with only one starting QB
Another case where the RBs might work out.
Would end up having to go WR at flex

Stuck
Both starting QBs have a bye week 5.
IF JP beats out Holcomb, he will have both weeks covered.
As long as Mike Bell really is the starter, he will be okay at RB other than needing to cover the flex with a WR for his bye weeks.

Electroman
High Risk high reward Starters with different bye weeks.
Backup is a starter, should be okay.
Should be okay at RB depending on how much PT Addai gets.

Sarge
Both starting QBs have a Bye in week 3.
But, two backups who are both starters, and one who is a backup.
RB issues will be driven by PT for Benson, Houston, and Moats.

Frick
Should be OK at QB with a backup who is a starter.
RB will be completely at the mercy of Deshaun staying healthy.

Russelldl
Starting QBs have different bye weeks.
One backup who is a starter and one backup who is a backup.
RBs should be okay depending on Deuce.

Barilko
Starting QBs have different Bye weeks.
Backup QB is a starter with a good Bye week and another backup.
RBs should be just fine and could be a strength.

That�s it from the Peanut Gallery.
Please don�t take anything I said Personal.
Just what one old fart saw of the draft.

Cliff

374

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Sun, Aug 20, 2006, 23:14

Cliff...

I personally like your comments on my team, and I too hope my RB's do well!

After your evaluations though, I am quite surprised at how many potential bye week problems are out there for teams...

375

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 13:20

well shit, read last night where SF sent Barlow to the Jets. Doesnt bode so well for my hopes that Houstn would emerge from training camp as the starter. :(

376

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 13:39

Don't worry too much yet Sarge...We all saw how well Barlow did in SF...

He is no guarantee in NY now either...

377

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 15:02

Oh I know. lol What bothers me, is that apparently the front office for the Jets, feels hes at least as good if not better than, their existing options. Else, why get him? IOW...the coaching staff must figure Houstons no better than Barlow, and THAT bothers me. :(

378

barilko6
ID: 21733227
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 08:37

I heading out this afternoon for a week, heading out east for some camping and relaxing!

Sarge...if someone really great comes up on waivers, (ie, One of the top 3 RB's accidently gets released due to a errant mouse click) I have the number 1 priority, so please claim him for my team.

Thank you.

379

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 08:51

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure. ;)

380

barilko6
ID: 16529229
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 09:04

Wow...I go away for 5 days and I come back to find out half of my running backs (D. Davis, Dayne, Davenport) might not actually make their team roster.

Tough week.

381

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 10:26

did we ever decide who to send the money to? lol

382

FRICK
ID: 345202714
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 10:58

Did we ever decide if we are going to make a "donation?"

I can act as Treasurer if we decide to put money into the pot. As of last Monday I have a new permanent address. I would prefer to do all of it through Paypal if possible, but if not we can make it work.

383

barilko6
ID: 21733227
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:50

I think we had agreed upon the following:

$20 per team.

Winner gets: 150
Second gets: 60
Third gets : 20
Kafenatid Fee: 10

Everyone agreed to this when they signed up for the yahoo. Frick, if you would be willing to take the money, I say a deadline of payment should be instituted, and anyone not paying by that date forfeits their team. Maybe 2nd Sunday of the season?

Thoughts?

384

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 12:15

I cant use paypal, (they keep telling me I dont live where I say I live), but can drop a check in the mail today. (I have 2 with me and have another league to pay for too.)

Just drop me an email if you would, and I'll get it out this afternoon.

385

Promize
ID: 141018197
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 08:29

I just need the paypal info and confirmation we still doing this.. Then I can send.

386

GoatLocker
ID: 43781518
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 08:54

Same as Promize.
I need the Paypal info and I'll send it right away.
Cliff

387

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 11:12

Hey Frick, are you still willing to be treasurer? If so, have you got PayPal info for us?

388

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 11:16

i can send paypal immediately as well.

389

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 11:17

same here

390

Frick
ID: 345202714
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 11:26

Sorry guys work is extremely hectic at the moment and I don't have a home connection. I'll be posting the info on the Yahoo site in a moment. I don't feel comfortable posting the info on the open web.

391

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:04

Sounds good man...

Thanks!

392

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:26

Alright, Frick has posted the info on our Yahoo league site. Please make a note of his comments regarding the notes attached to the payments.

I am going to place a deadline of October 1 to submit your payments, but would hope all of us can get it in much sooner. (especially Sarge, before his whole team goes on the IR)

J

393

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:30

or yours, before none of them have jobs. ;)

394

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:50

Hey...

My defenses can't lose their jobs, so if worse comes to worse, go D!!!

395

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:58

my crips vs your D...... *insert insane maniacal laughter here*

396

Frick
ID: 345202714
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:09

I like this league already. Granted I've played with most, if not all, of the managers in the past.

I just found out we are actually moving into our new house on Tuesday/Wednesday of next week. Hopefully DishNetwork will get their act together and get my system installed at some point.

I have a serious jones for some football. At least I'll get a decent fix this weekend with college football.

397

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:17

*ahem* checks in the mail...no, no...really. it is....gddmmit, it is!

398

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:14

I will get the payment out next week.

399

Promize@Parents
ID: 4283038
Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 09:39

Sarge says that every year.. I promise it will get there :) heh

I sent my payment yesterday, hopefully Paypal delivered it fine

400

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 09:44

it always gets there too huh? lol

btw...heard anything from Doom? In the other league, cant start till he does.

401

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 10:42

He is around, drafted with us in GOLD.
Just his typical busy, busy, busy self.
Came back from vacation early to draft :)

Cliff

402

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 08:14

Big Ben...down for week 1....

This is getting ridiculous....

403

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 09:04

In the immortal words of Alice Cooper: "Welcome to my nightmare."

404

barilko6
ID: 127522920
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 21:28

A long awaited, much needed, glimmer of hope for Da Bears:

"The AP reports Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan has not decided yet on his starting running back due to the improved play of Tatum Bell.

Tatum has reportedly responded since Mike Bell was named the starter in early August. It may be what the "Mastermind" was hoping for all along."

And in related news I read someone very reputable calling David Carr as the number 1 must start QB for week 1. (My friend Kevin is very reputable)

405

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 12:33

Carr? The human tackling dummy??

Don

406

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 13:26

Stuck...aren't I facing you this week?

I am debating whether to insert some trash talk here, or just cower in fear due to my weakened roster status...

407

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 13:57

<----has experience "cowering in fear" as his fantasy squad takes to the field. Hasnt worked very well to date. :(

408

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:15

Well then I better back up the team I have assembled.

Tale of the Bells
Tatum>>>Mike

John Madden was in Denver to announce a football game one weekend when he noticed a special phone near the Broncos' bench. He asked Coach Shanahan what it was for and was told it was a hotline to God. John asked the coach if he could use it, and the coach said: "Sure, but it will cost you $100."

Madden scratched his head, then said: "What the heck, I need some help picking some games." He pulled out his wallet and paid the $100. Madden was perfect that week.

The next weekend, Madden was in Philadelphia when he noticed the same kind of phone near the Eagles' bench. He asked Coach Reid what the phone was for, and Andy said: " It's a hotline to God, and if you want to use it, it will cost you $100."

Recalling the previous week, Madden pulled out his wallet and gladly paid the $100. Once again, Madden was perfect.

The next weekend, Madden was in Dallas at Texas Stadium when he noticed the same phone near the Cowboy's bench. He asked Coach Parcells if it was a hotline to God. Tuna said, "Yes it is. Do you want to use it? It'll cost you 35 cents."

Madden looked at Coach Parcells and said, "Wait a minute! I just paid $100 in Denver and $100 in Green Bay to use the same phone! Why in Dallas do they only charge 35 cents?"

Parcells looked at Madden and replied very matter-of-factly, "In Texas, it's a local call."

The moral of that story? I hope Tatum Bell plays more than Mike Bell.

409

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:18

anybody still wonder why people in TX where boots all the time?

410

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:27

I'm not sure if I am brave enough to ask...

411

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 15:05

to keep our white socks white. all that BS gettin spouted has a way of piling up...makes them a real ugly brown.

412

Frick
ID: 345202714
Wed, Sep 06, 2006, 16:32

Russel, can you send me an e-mail? I have a question about your PayPal payment.

413

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Wed, Sep 06, 2006, 19:00

re 404:

from cbssportsline:

Analysis: Carr is not a recommended starter against the Eagles this week and should only be used when your starter is on a bye or in Fantasy leagues of at least 12 teams.

*evil cackle*

414

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 09:30

re 413: But our league is a 12 team league, with 2 starting QBs!!! So that means I have a top 12 QB with Carr!

I heard that because of the running back problems in Houston, Carr will just throw everything to Andre Johnson (my WR) and then call his own number on the goal line touchdown carries...

I smell lots of points...

415

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 10:04

I think that might be sarge's boots you smell.

416

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:24

roflmfao

417

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:26

I've got to get me some boots that smell like touchdowns...

418

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:51

That all depends on what it is you "touched down" in. ;)

419

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 20:28

ROFLMAO

This is getting really deep.

Cliff

420

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 21:17

yep...thats us...deep. I'm assuming you meant deep as in "profound".

421

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 10:00

Was watching the game at a pub last night and didn't realize Stuck had Heath Miller. If I knew at the time, I would have yelled at the refs for not seeing the flag. Instead I just figured Pittsburgh would have scored anyways, so who cares if he was out...

Already down 11-0 in Week 1. Good thing Carr is good for 23 points Sunday.

422

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 10:06

Carr, Culpepper...same-same.

423

GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 21:55

Carr -23, that's a lot of INTs to throw.
But, if anybody can do it, Carr Can.

Cliff

424

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 00:42

Bledsoe tried to score a -23. 3 picks and looked bad enough to prolly start a QB controversy in Dallas. He doesnt pick it up HUGE next week, I'd not be surprised to see Romo get some reps with the first team in the following week.

That shot Green took was u-g-l-y. Picture a guy going into the QB slide, and just as he starts to lay out at about knee height, picture an NFL defender on the fly, shoulder slamming directly into the QBs helmet. Head snaps back and slams into the ground. Thats pretty much how it went. Green lay on the field forprobably 10 minutes before they carted him off. I doubt he'll be playing next week, or the following. I'd keep him out for at least that long if I were the coach. If we need him later, I'd prefer his bell not be ringing at the time.

Such is the woeful tale of my 2 QB's in this 2 QB league. I already went in and dumped a backup WR to pickup Huard. Just in case. And if Bledsoe loses his job this week, my starters next week would be Huard and Charlie Frye. Why does that potentiality not make me feel very "happy"?

425

barilko6
ID: 13821022
Sat, Sep 16, 2006, 20:12

Well...I am looking at some tough QB action this weekend against you Sarge...

Do I go with Kitna who is up against a strong Bears Defense?

Do I go with Big Ben, is he healthy enough to go against a strong Jax defense?

Do I go with David Carr against the Indy defense?

Gotta pick two out of those stellar choices...

At least I can go with the Bengals defense against your Charlie Frye...

426

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sat, Sep 16, 2006, 21:34

I think you bench them all. That way, you avoid the potential of negative points via lost fumbles and INTs. :) (So once said a self-proclaimed wise-man.)

427

barilko6
ID: 13821022
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 11:20

Alright, well now I need a big night from Big Ben...

*crosses fingers*

428

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 11:37

I think Pitt is gonna hold him out one more game. Make sure he's OK. ;)

429

barilko6
ID: 13821022
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 11:49

I am past the point of no return on Big Ben...

I also have Wilford going tonight too...I hope Leftwich targets him more than Jones...

Guys named Ernest and Byron just seem to belong together...throw some TD's get some Guinness

430

Frick
ID: 345202714
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 12:07

Nerfherders and I each with one to play. He has Joey Porter + .1 point vs. Heath Miller

Unless Miller has a TD, I think he will win.

Side note: I had to people send me payments vis PayPal with credit cards. Would it be possible to send the payment a different way? If I accept the credit card PayPal payment is "upgrades" my account to a "premium" account where I have to pay transactions fees for all deposits.

I would prefer not to do that, but I can if no other means are possible.

Let me know, I'll send an e-mail when I get home and can look to see who they were. Sorry about the delay, it has been extremely busy at work and home.

431

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 12:46

But didnt Earnest go to camp?

432

Frick
ID: 345202714
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 15:30

Sad to say, but I loved that movie as a kid. The parachuting turtles still makes me chuckle just thinking about it.

433

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 17:12

The definition of cruel:

I think you bench them all. That way, you avoid the potential of negative points via lost fumbles and INTs.

When a smartass comment like that, turns out to be accurate.

434

barilko6
ID: 1085657
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 17:51

Yeah...Big Ben blew it for me. The win was there for the taking...

That being said, David Carr puts up a very nice 20 points for me...which leads me to make a tough decision for my 3 QB's come next Sunday.

435

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 18:42

It certainly was. I was sweating bullets, right up till the end of the game. (Well, the 2nd INT actually...which for all purposes was the end of the game.)

Add that to the list of oddities so far this year...Carr is producing perfectly good nrs as a Fantasy QB. lol

436

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 13:24

In a league starting 2 QBs and granting 6 pts per Pa TD, its sad to see the saga of sarge and injuries continue so devastatngly:

Trent Green, QB KC

News: The Kansas City Star reports that Chiefs QB Trent Green took neurological tests for his concussion Tuesday and has not been given a timetable to return to action. Lingering effects remain for Green, who cannot drive a car or even throw a football right now. "We're confident he's coming back," coach Herm Edwards said. "When he's coming back ... nobody knows. I haven't even asked. Because I don't want to know. I told him, 'It's on your schedule.'"

Analysis: The Chiefs have begun expanding the playbook for backup Damon Huard and have given some first-team reps to rookie Brodie Croyle. Owners are advised to keep Green reserved as much as possible, but if you have to dump him to get a QB to start this week, go for it. Don't drop him unless you have to. The Chiefs are on bye in Week 3.

437

Promize
ID: 141018197
Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 19:01

Mmm, why don't we have a waiver system in this league?

The free for all week stuff is pretty lame, especially for those who work.

438

barilko6
ID: 07191722
Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 23:44

I've claimed a lot of guys on just regular days. I don't think any of my waiver claims have been because I was there before anyone else.

I even kicked myself for waiting 3 days on a couple of guys who were still available Tuesday night, like Clayton, the rookie TE/WR from NO, and the Cotch guy from the Jets...

439

barilko6
ID: 13821022
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 18:13

Anyone else have any thoughts on the current waiver system?

Just reviewing the additions to rosters last week, and was surprised to notice only 2 players were actually added to rosters on last Monday, a kicker and a TE.

Do we need to look at the current way we add players to teams, if not for this year, for next?

440

sarge33rd
ID: 257222410
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 18:16

too late to alter for this year, but I've always favored a priority method where its reverse order of standings.

Using Yahoo for our auction league too. Every week, I lock all the managers out of add/drops 15 minutes before kick-off. Then come noon Tue, I unlock the four at the bottom ofour standings. They have first shot at the wire, for one deal each if they want it. Then come Wed morning, I unlock the next 4 and Wed evening, I unlock the last 4.

441

Promize
ID: 141018197
Sat, Sep 23, 2006, 11:00

I love football, but I don't want to have to sit at the computer all day Sunday, sunday night, etc etc ... Just so I can grab a player that I need.

Most leagues have a priority method like Sarge said and it usually based on the league record.. This helps with balancing the league and stopping folks for hording players etc.

I don't think we have anything like that in our league, my main problem is, I don't have time to research players, see who is hurt etc, till I get home from work (security reasons we are very limited on computer access).

Each night when I get home, there is about 10 moves already been made leaving me with just about nothing to choose from to fix a need in my team.

Just seems it would be fair for all next year of course, to set it up with a Wednesday/Thursday order system and then you can make it free for all after the waiver rounds go through.

442

barilko6
ID: 13821022
Sun, Sep 24, 2006, 19:00

Your points make a lot of sense Promize. The pools I have been a part of in the past always went with the first come-first serve premise.

The waiver system would allow for a much fairer procedure for those that want to think over their moves.

Of course, this season would be too late to implement it, but what do other people think of revising our waiver claim system for next year?

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barilko6
ID: 13821022
Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 08:08

Just need an ok night from Bush and Carney tonight to finally break into the win column. My team is coming around...except for Big Ben...

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barilko6
ID: 13821022
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 14:41

Crap...I knew Damon Huard was going to do well this week against SF, but I still didn't start him. I even offered him to about half the teams in the league for WR help...

I hope Kitna and Carr put up huge days to help the team...

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barilko6
ID: 291317
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 11:04

I have some extra QB's available to trade for a WR or RB.

Anyone needing a QB make me an offer, at this point David Carr would cost you the most...

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barilko6
ID: 43524213
Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 13:40

Draft Pick Tracker:

Sarge gives 4th round pick (Brock Huard)
Barilko gives last round pick. (Samkon Gado)

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 11:39

I was wondering. The teams that make the playoffs make it with points or win loss record.

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barilko6
ID: 389352515
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 15:11

Won lost record. Points are only to break a tie, at least I am pretty sure how it goes with H2H.

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 15:29

Thanks

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wiggs@work
ID: 5910511410
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 10:59

I just wanted to post a quick update because you all were so great about my info about adopting our son. As of Thursday night we are no longer only foster parents we are now available to officially adopt. We are definately going to do this, with his acceptance of course, but we wanted to let him have some time with us. Alittle brag here, when we got him he was compared to a 3 year old and they didnt want him in a regular ed classroom. My wife and I fought with the school and the school board on a daily basis and finally they allowed him in a mainstream classroom with a 1 on 1 aid at all times. Well we had our parent teacher conference today and the teacher is recommending that he no longer needs a full time aid, just to have a classroom aide there to help when needed and she said he is just barely below grade level. We are very proud of him and we thank you all for your support. Some of you that emailed me about this your emails mean alot to us when we are having a hard time.

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sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 14:13

kudos wiggs to you and your wife!! It takes a special kind of person to open their hearts and homes to a "stranger" and then to turn that stranger into family.

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russelldl
ID: 5392129
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 15:00

I second that! You are doing a great thing. There are very few of us who could do what you and your wife are doing.

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 19:04

Wiggs, I love kids, and when they are in situations were they can't thrive like other children, it pains me very much. It also amazes me all the time how bright and smart all children are. Your situation proves that, and that there aren't any lost causes. Love can do so much. Hang your head high, you have done, nd are doing a great thing.

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Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Nov 22, 2006, 08:18

Congrats Wiggs.

I can't imagine the work that you and your wife have done to help your soon to be child. You should feel free to brag on street corners for the work that you have accomplished.

I wish you the best of luck going forward.

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GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 16:29

Wiggs,
Glad to hear all is going well.
You and your wife should have permanent smiles on your faces.

Great to hear about things in school for your son.

Cliff

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 08:12

Wow, there is a nice race for the last playoff spot. There are 5 teams in the running. Should be a fun last two weeks.

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barilko6
ID: 341058227
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 10:34

My bench actually outscored my entire starting lineup with players like Willis, Booker, Carr, and the Bengals D all having career point earning days.

Where were these guys all year???

Sarge...I am still playing for pride and plan to take you down on Sunday.

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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 08:23

Had I benched Frye and gone with 1 QB, I'd have won last week. :( All of which means....I'm gonna whoop a$$ against the one team in the league, as bad as my own...YOURS!

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barilko6
ID: 13821022
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 09:16

Sarge, Sarge, Sarge...

Here is the thing. If my team wins, wait, WHEN, my team wins, I think you should have to change your team name to the "I lost to Da Bears" for the rest of the year...

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sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 11:50

NO, but when I win...you can feel free to announce how your team managed to get itself knocked out while shadowing boxing. :)

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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 17:52

ummmmm Barilko? Why so silent? :)

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 10:14

Well, a three way tie for the last playoff spot. My first round pick is looking like a bust. Figured he would be a keeper, now I don't know.

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barilko6
Donor
ID: 13821022
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 10:32

First off...

Congrats to The Fighting Seabees who took out GolfFreak's PackAttack to win the league.

A couple of things that came up during the year:

1. Waiver claims. It was noted that we should have prioritized waiver claims, and I agree with this.

2. Roster Freeze during the playoffs. I could go either way with this decision, its not huge to me. I wouldn't object to a manager replacing someone who got injured late in the year. I also would just side with the majority on this.

3. Keepers. We decided on 5 keepers, no more than 2 at any position. Someone emailed me and asked if there was going to be any restrictions on trades, with the thought being that Manager A trades a QB to Manager B for a RB before the keeper declaration. Then after a short time, they trade the 2 players back for the purpose of staying within the keeper designation. (Thought being that one team has extra QB's that they want to keep and the other has extra RB's) The thought is that there should be a one year restriction on managers reacquiring players traded prior to keeper designation. I also would just go with the majority on that.

Anyways, congrats SeaBees...and I look forward to thoughts from all managers on the above, or any other matters to enhance the league.

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sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 10:49

Re trading players....if Manager "A" trades with Manager "B", then those two managers should IMHO, be barred from trading those same players back to each other. Period. (Besides, if we saw that happening, those arent the kinds of managers I want to be in the same league with anyway, so I'd just drop out of the league entirely.)

FWIW, the Free Agency so screwed things up this past year, I'd be a favor of a total redraft along with setting the F/A rules beforehand. To see players being acquired during games, during the playoffs etc...IMHO is just plain wrong.

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Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 11:16

Replacing an injured player during the playoffs seems ok, but other than that, rosters should be frozen IMO.

I agree with # 1.

#3, I have never played in a keeper before, so I really don't have any opinion on it.

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Promize
ID: 61039198
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 21:55

Although I agree with waivers being totally screwed up this year... I'm not sure I want to redraft considering I picked up a couple good QB's... humm... will have to think about this one.

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GF
ID: 1511301117
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 16:29

Hey FRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you please keep $20 for next year's fee.
Send $20 to Guru.
Send $15 to me. (Small bottle of the Capt'en)
And keep $5 for u. (6 pack of brew)

Thanks Mate

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wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 17:03

I will be looking to trade a WR for a RB if anyone is interested. I have Roy williams, TO and Chad Johnson, I would expect a RB of the caliber of the wr you would want, meaning i would expect a better rb for TO or CJ then i would for RW.

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