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Subject: RIFC AAA#1Draft Discussion #2

Posted by: Trip - Leader [13961611] Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 09:36

Draft Grid

Discussion 1

Rationales 1

Rationales 2

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 09:37

Please discontinue using the old discussion thread. I have also created the rationales thread for rounds 7-12.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:41

Somebody please select Deangelo Williams, RB, CAR for me.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:44

Done.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 15:48

jtserb's selection was made by queue. That depleted the queue, so he'll be making the second pick personally (for anyone who might be wondering why jtserb would make one pick then disappear).

Toral

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:38

Please select T.J. Duckett, RB, ATL for me

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:40

Done

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:00

I made slowhand a dp for me and left a 2 player queue for my next pick.

Tree
ID: 337122218
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:45

hey, is there any way we can get a quicker clock? 10 rounds in, it shouldn't be taken this long.

either that, or the same people that keep holding it up, oughta check in more often... *ahem*

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:51

I was thinking the same thing, Tree. When Trip gets back we ought to move the clock down to 4 hours. Encourage people to make queues, and end some of those deadly 4-hour-plus picks.

We're on pace to finish just before the season opens. I suspect many players are not adding their players on AOL LM as they pick so it could be a wild scramble in the last days unless we reduce the clock. Also I expect slowness Labour Day weekend.

Toral

holt
ID: 22726517
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:56

i didn't realize that we are able to add our own players.

yeah, 4 hour time limit would be nice.

FUGAZI
ID: 074720
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:57

4 hour clock sounds good

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:58

you are supposed to add your own. I know I haven't added my last few yet, so I imagine lots of others haven't either.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 21:31

Holt you're up.
I didn't realize you could add your players either...I'll work on it later.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 21:34

Holt left a queue and has picked

Tree
ID: 337122218
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 21:35

we're adding our own players.

last time i tried to log onto AOL's football thing i couldnt...

Tree
ID: 337122218
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 21:39

dang. that was easy!

Da Bomb
ID: 36533242
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:19

7.08 Ray Lewis, LB, Bal

If he's healthy, there's no LB that's better. All reports say he is healthy and the last time he came back from an injury plagued season he put up fantastic numbers. Well, here's hoping he stays on the field.

8.07 Jason Witten, TE, Dal

I didn't really want to draft Witten. With the addition of Owens, I see his numbers dropping from last year. I kept waiting for someone else to draft him so I could take a TE with more upside like LJ Smith or Heath Miller, but when it came to be my turn to draft, four other teams needed a TE and I didn't want to risk having none of those TEs left for my next pick, so I went with what I feel was the safest choice left in Witten.

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:28

Trip - I believe you mean...

TJ Duckett, RB, WAS

;)

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:57

Oh, well...I'll guess I'll just draft 4 more RBs to replace him.

Admit it, you just wish you had my team.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:05

Hey, Trip, what about authorizing a 4-hour clock, giving 24 hours notice, so as to come into effect Thursday morning?

You might want to keep it at 6 on weekends.

Toral

Toral
ID: 52621719
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:06

And we could squeeze people at the edges and make the draft pause from midnight to 6 A.M.

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:18

7.01 Mike Peterson, LB, JAX

IDP becomes a pressing need after 90 picks and finding Peterson available at the end of six rounds exceeded my draft hopes. I had Peterson rated in my pre-draft rankings at 81. The undersised Jacksonville MLB should deliver a steady 10 points per game and has a much higher upside. I project a 120 tackles, 4 sacks and 2 each fumble/interception placing Peterson as a top 10 IDP.

Tree
ID: 337122218
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:30

well, i'm gonna set my queue up.

please do NOT pick the same position twice in a row.

holt
ID: 22726517
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:33

you can also do a free-form queue tree. I'll be around quite a while if you want to leave a queue with me.

holt
ID: 22726517
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:34

nvm, we're moving now.

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:35

Whew, was afraid I was holding up the draft. Defragging my computer took a good 5 hours. I'll be leaving for Tampa on Thursday so I'll have spotty access throughout the weekend. Should be able to get some queues going when needed.

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:36

I second Toral's motion (post 30)...also, I propose that we penalize the next draft pick when sombody is away for multiple hours with out leaving a heads up for the people drafting behind them. I know we have a six hour clock, but courtesies shown fellow managers is definitely underrated during drafts. It is not that hard.

An example (and this is true): I am heading off to bed now and will not be back on the boards 'till around 8 AM Wednesday.

holt
ID: 22726517
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:41

I'll have my pick ready to go if it gets back to me.

Tree
ID: 337122218
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 23:44

and on Friday, i am moving into my new apartment, so my access will be spotty all day.

however, supposedly there is already internet access, so i'm gonna go in with my laptop tomorrow, and see if that is the case. if not, last year i was able to draft on my Treo, so if i have to, i'll do it this year too...

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 00:06

i'll keep checking in.

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 00:07

Hang on, checking out my options.

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 00:19

I guess we use "claims" to pick up our players? I don't see any way to put them directly on my team.

FUGAZI
ID: 074720
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 00:38

go to transactions then drop/add players

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 00:45

Left queue.Off to bed

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 01:00

tree - are you still around?

I see i'm listed as one of his dp's but it says queue not available.

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 01:40

argh. ok, I'll put a queue together. again.

Da Bomb
ID: 36533242
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 07:25

Made a queue. Please use only for round 11.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:41

I'll be away from my computer most of the day. I have left a large queue;but please use for only round 12. In case it is used up or it makes it back to me in rnd 13 I will be back @ 6-7 p.m.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:54

I just filled in 11 placeholders. StL and Toral have been doing the brunt of that work so far. It is ridiculous that you guys can't take the time to fill them in for yourself, if you aren't going to post your rationale at the time.

This is unnecessary work. I can understand having to wait on a couple of rationales, but this is too much. If you guys don't want to do rationales, just say so and we won't bother filling a space for them.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 10:45

StL or Toral.

If Da Bomb did not leave a queue, please set the draft window to 4 hours.

If it looks like anyone besides Da Bomb is about to time out today, please reset it to 6 for the remainder of the day. We will be moving to a 4 hour time limit tomorrow.

I will send you guys my queue tomorrow morning to hopefully cover me through Sunday.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:25

Please select LenDale White, RB, TEN for me.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:31

Done.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:34

Please select Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL for me.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:43

Done.

Da Bomb
ID: 36533242
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 14:40

Trip, if you looked just a little above it says in 48 that I made a queue.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 15:17

Please make sure to add your own players as you go. As of right now teams, The fighting Jed Clampetts, Texas Taxes, and Your Future RIFC AAA Champ have not added any players to their teams.

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 15:18

i don't mind doing rationales, but what round are we gonna cut em off? could we make them voluntary once we get past the mid-point of the draft? so many picks will be crap-shoots, I dunno how much there will be to say about em.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 16:40

7.06 Nate Burleson WR SEA

Under-utilized in the Vikings offense Burleson should blossom in Seattle.As I mentioned in my rationale for Hasselbeck I expect there to be plenty of passes to go around in Seattle, and I expect Burleson to achieve the success many thought he would have last year.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 16:46

8.09 L.J. Smith TE PHI

I drafted Smith as my TE in this league last year and was disappointed in his injury riddled season last year;but the reasons for drafting him still remain.None of Philly's wide recievers are IMO very good and Smith if he can remain healthy could and probabley should be used much as Westbrook has in the past and could end up the teams leading reciever.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 16:50

9.06 Ronde Barber DB TB

Watching IDPs go off the board earlier and quicker than I planned I decided to grab one of the top guys. Last year I ignored runs on defensive players and I think it hurt my team in the long run,so this year I vowed to jump in and get a few top guys.

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 18:05

I need someone to yell at me when it's my turn. I've been listening to Ref babble the past 45 minutes not knowing it was my turn to pick. Will pick asap.

holt
ID: 22726517
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 19:09

i'll make my pick in a couple minutes.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 19:18

Standing by....I'll pick right after holt

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 20:35

StL/Toral

I will be resending another queue and hope to make my picks myself tonight/early tomorrow.

FUGAZI
ID: 074720
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 21:59

I will check back in about 30 min to see if smith picked

Tree
ID: 357252320
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 22:47

man, i wish we could have this done by friday. i'm moving on friday, and i am probably going to have limited access...ugh...

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 22:48

Sorry for the delay. We were at 12.13 when I checked at 6:00, so I didn't think we'd get to 13.09 before I got back. But I should have posted anyhow.

Tree
ID: 22745244
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 06:07

regarding rationales - i apologize for getting WAY behind.

i'm in the midst of a move right now, so my time is short. this oughta be more or less completed by the end of the weekend, so on sunday, i'm hoping to sit down with a few dozen beers, and get this stuff done. :0)

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 07:32

Traveling most of the day. Queue should be set.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 08:09

Trip, not sure if it's still early and you are available (or have sent a queue), but you're on the clock. I selected Dan Morgan.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:08

I'll be gone for @ 3 hrs...queue is set please use for rnd 14 only. thanks.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:30

11.11 Michael Lewis, DB, Phi

I planned to grab a DB and an RB. I'm looking for one of the backups to my main RBs. With Jamal Lewis's hip flexor endangering his status for week 1, Mike Anderson is my #1 target. I think that Anderson will make it back to me coming back around the turn, and if not I'll pick Lendale White (who is still around although he went at 7.01 in RIFC).
Lewis has been increasing his tackles every year and should continue to improve. In RIFC last year's AAA champ, culdeus, declared that he had Lewis as his #3 DB, so I'll hope that the champ's scouting is fruitful.
(Note: the next 2 picks were Mike Anderson and LenDale White. Aargh)

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:31

Toral/StL,

I have decided to just input players into Kafenatid for selection by everyone. DO NOT use the list I sent earlier. There should be plenty of players in my queue to make it till I return.

All,

I am proposing that we continue the rationales through round 18. You can include the rationales for rounds 19-24 in your draft summary if you like. The draft summary will be required.

Please make an effort to place placeholders for yourself if you don't have your rationale ready. We really have done a good job with them so far.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:40

No problem Trip, I started to look at your email and then decided to wait until I actually needed to make a pick from it, so now I'll just delete it.

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:43

through round 18?!!? oy.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 11:21

9.12 Will Witherspoon, LB, STL

The time has come to go IDP, and it will be an LB. I had Antonio Pierce penciled in for this pick. However, Da Bomb takes him off the board several picks before me, so I'm left to scramble a little bit.

Witherspoon is a good LB and he's supposed to move to the "Mike" in St. Louis. As a consequence, I am gambling that he will post excellent IDP numbers (top 10). He had a good year last year in Carolina and signed a significant contract. Hopefully, he doesn't turn out to be a bust like the last backer that the Rams signed to a big contract to play MLB: **undrafted LB no longer in the league**.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 11:30

12.04 Travis Henry, RB, Ten

This was a mistake pick, a reach, caused by my panic over the disappearance of Mike Anderson and LenDale White from the board. I do think it is possible that Henry, not White, will pick up most of the carries if Chris Brown goes out, but this wasn't the round to bet on that proposition. I changed my mind and changed my queue to unavailable planning to substitute Troy Williamson, only to see when the page reloaded that letter_j and picked quickly and my Henry queue had already been used. I was still able to pick Williamson up in round 13, so I can consider this as a round 13 pick, which makes it a little less of a waste.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 11:35

10.03 Ben Watson, TE, NWE

I had Watson on my radar since the beginning of the draft...he's the TE that I wanted (and I'm not a Patriots homer). The reason: he runs like a WR and is two years removed from his knee injury.

With Deion Branch very unhappy (sitting out) and David Givens now in Tennessee, someone has to catch the balls that Brady is going to throw (after all, he's going to have to be throwing it alot to justify a 3rd round selection in this league). Even if Branch comes back sooner rather than later, I still expect this ultra talented TE to have a big year.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 11:51

11.12 Mike Anderson, RB, BAL

Jamal Lewis has had a recurring hip problem since the beginning of training camp (in fact, word now is that he will sit the rest of the pre-season), so I roll the dice and take a stab at another potential starting RB.

I looked long and hard at LenDale White, but was worried about his attitude, the mere fact that he's a rookie and the presence of Travis Henry. In my mind, Anderson was a safer pick than White as he's proven that he's a capable back (albeit in Denver) and if Jamal Lewis has continual/further injury concerns, Anderson will probably get the nod.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:07

12.03 Shelton Quarles, LB, TAM

Time to go IDP again, as I'm a little lacking in that area.

Quarles is undersized and is not a very good backer in real life. However, in fantasy football, he puts up big numbers in a scheme that funnels plays to he and Derrick Brooks.

holt
ID: 22726517
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 13:57

i wonder if wolfer meant to take a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th DL in a row there.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:08

I propose we stop the rationales at 12. It is my turn to post a rationale for pick 13.07 and yet I was also the last one to post a rationale at 12.08. Seems the rationales are starting to lose steam and maybe stopping half way through is a good stopping point.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:13

Probably a good idea. People can post rationales after that if they want -- would it be better to just post them in free-for-all manner in the rationale thread (after all the placeholders have been done up to 12.14) or to post them here? Anything posted here Trip has to move.

Toral

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:19

While it does not affect me (as I'll probably be posting rationales until 24.03; hey, I'm a lawyer (and we always have justifications)), I leave this decision to the commish. It's not a big deal to me one way or the other. Plus, although I fell a little behind and I apologize for that, I enjoy explaining what motivated me to do something (and I also enjoy reading other people's reasons for doing what they do). Matter of factly, I read last years rationales before beginning this draft.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:34

I see your point. The placeholder-posters may get a little tired though.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:37

We're due for another rationale thread anyway for 13-18, at least that is how rifc divided it up.

If someone wants to make one then I'll post mine when it gets caught up to me.

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:39

Toral, Trip et al.,

Sorry about making more work for those that are moving things around by placing my rationales here; I did not realize how much work it would entail for those that were moving the posts. If it has taken a considerable amount of time, I do apologize for that. The weekend is what really messed me up.

Smith32
ID: 356192015
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 14:54

I second StlCards proposal. I think people will start relying more on queues in the later rounds (I'll be gone most of the weekend), so there will be even less of a "rationale" for those picks other than "They were highest on some IDP web cheatsheet". I'll continue doing them if everyone else wants to though.

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 19:16

I'll be gone all day tomorrow so it will be up to Toral if there are any problems.

holt
ID: 22726517
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 19:45

i have a suggestion for everyone. when you're going to be away from a computer for an extended period of time, leave a queue. if you can't leave a queue, give us a ballpark estimate on when you'll be back on-line.

yeah there are plenty of RL things that are more important than fantasy FB, but several of us check in on the draft quite often (you never know when 6 picks will go in 10 minutes). it would be courteous to let us know what the situation is.

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 23:08

Thank you holt.

Well said.

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 23:08

I'm done for the evening. I will ck in tomorrow morning @ 9 ish to see where we are.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 23:52

I'm out also...left a queue since I'm only 2 away.

Tree
ID: 297342420
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 23:54

is it my imagination, or does the draft stop in the same place every time?

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 00:21

I should get my next pick in the morning before I leave but who knows after that. I am trying to put together a queue that should hopefully last until I get back Friday night.

Tree
ID: 297342420
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 00:29

there's not a way to leave a position by position queue, is there?

100

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 00:47

I've made Holt and Toral Designated Pickers for me. Please only select one player from a position and then move on to the next position. If all the position get used, then go back through and double up, but I wouldn't want to double up on say DL, TE, K, D if I have any of those positions in there. I have also turned on free-form so you could choose someone for me if you were so inclined. Thanks.

101

FUGAZI
ID: 074720
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 02:24

I am leaving a queue but please only use it for round 17 ..... thanks

102

Taxman
ID: 49726922
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 03:37

Middle of the night ck back in...what a surprise..again the draft is stopped. No Tree!! Not your immagination. I(t is your power of recognizing the same event for the past four nights...sometimes before my pick, sometimes after my pick..but still at the same place.

I have entered a 3 man queue, thus I should be good to go whenever my turn comes up. I will increase the number of designated pickers for this turn around in the hopes that beastiemiked will make his following pick immediately....unhanging the draft for the time being.

103

Da Bomb
ID: 36533242
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 06:32

Made a queue.

Please use for round 17 only.

104

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 07:46

I am back. I am going to be pretty drugged up and stuck in bed for the next 2 days, but everything appears to have gone well. I have my laptop with me and plan on making my own picks from here on out.

I am more interested in the rationales from rounds 13-18 than I am in 1-6. I have already heard of everyone taken in those rounds. If you pay attention in rounds 13-18 you can pick up on things that will help you in your other leagues.

Anyways, I obviously can't force everyone to do the rationales, but it would be nice to at least put in a placeholder for your pick if you aren't going to write one.

105

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 08:09

Scratch that. Rationales are dead. I don't want to try to catch back up.

Thanks to everyone to getting queues put in. I just made 12 picks off of them. Projected finish time is now 8/30.

106

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 08:26

I don't know who made my pick, but they obviously didn't follow my directions in post # 100

Please only select one player from a position and then move on to the next position.

If this happens the rest of the way I will be really messed up.

107

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 08:32

StL...that was me...my bad. I did check to makes sure the picks did make sense on the roster grid. Since the pick was a starter, I figured it was ok. I missed your note.

108

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 08:45

No problem, just don't want to get 3 DL's or one of those type positions. I'll be leaving shortly so hopefully my queue lasts. If not, then just skip me and I'll catch up later. Thanks.

109

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 08:47

I should add that my main criteria at this point will be to have a player at every position too, so those 2 picks are fine.

110

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 10:33

I will be out most of the day,and have left a queue.
TRIP & HOLT you guys are my desingnated pickers and I would like to make sure that my 18th and 19th round picks are NOT from the same position. Thanks I'll check back in @7.

RE: Rationales; I wouldn't mind posting more but perhaps those of us who were willing to do so could just post them as we get time. They would be out of order and perhaps a bit confusing but would save the time and hassle of placeholders and moving posts and still provide some insight for those of us who are interested.

111

Tree
ID: 3576256
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:27

if you use my queue, do not pick the same position twice in a row...

thanks!

Tree

112

holt
ID: 22726517
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:42

i also have a queue available.

113

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:59

FYI - Under QUEUE Management, you can set the "All Players" option to 1 and the designated picker (DP) can only take the 1 player displayed. Make sure it is set to ALL OF THE PLAYERS or your DP will only see 1 player.

The purpose of the one player option is so DP's can't view the entire queue if you decide to restrict access. They're only shown one at a time. It and the ability to set the queue to allow a DP to pick from "all players" and not just from the queue are new features KKB recently installed recently in OTC.

That's how I view it anyway. ;)

114

Smith32
ID: 356192015
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 14:06

Do we have a 4 or 6 hour clock right now? Per Trip's message (Post 52), I thought we were going to 4 hours yesterday. It doesn't matter to me - we've made good progress and we'll easily get done. I was just curious.

115

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 15:04

Wow...I guess I got spoiled.

The roller coaster : run away corkscrew down hill---22 picks in 2 hours 15 minutes; then on the pulley heading up hill 2 picks in 5 hours and counting.

Observation: Difficult to leave a 40 pick queue.

116

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 15:19

...and then 8 picks in 15 minutes. What a ride.

117

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 15:20

We have moved to the 4 hour clock. Amazing pace of late though. I am thinking of moving it to 6 hours for the weekend. Any thoughts?

118

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 15:22

Tree, you are up. Next available (only set to see 1) is same position as last round.

119

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 15:28

I will be comatose for the next couple of hours.

: (

120

holt
ID: 22726517
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 16:32

he has an rb available in his queue as well.

121

wolfer
ID: 575582311
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 16:34

I will either refill my queue or make my pick before 6:00 CDT.

122

holt
ID: 22726517
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 16:44

that's over 2 hours from now.
your pick is up now.

123

Smith32
ID: 356192015
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 16:53

I'm going out for dinner - I've got a queue setup and ready for use. I should be back by 8:00 EDT.

124

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 17:17

holt,

re post 122, I feel your pain...

To my fellow participants,

I do apologize to one and all for the delay as a result of the stag party last week and my delay in making my picks. I did not mean to be disrespecting to my fellow participants. As I stated in my rationale, when I left the house, it was all good...I never imagined that I would be on the clock that quickly. Thankfully (for me), I checked at the strip bar just before I timed out. Once again, I apologize.

125

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 17:37

wolfer....

you 'da man

IMHO..The first true courteous act towards fellow managers has occurred.

THANKS...leaving a message as to when you'll be back is great. Others may argue such, but I so much would rather know when to look back in...than just have someone fall off the face of the earth....which then causes managers having the following picks to be checking back in constantly with out any idea if or when the absent manager will show....effectively dumping on those managers that actually care about their fellow managers

126

holt
ID: 22726517
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 17:51

hmmm. but his pick was already up when he posted here in the forum. dunno why it's so hard to come up with one player. not like there are any superstars left. just grab something off the junk-pile and keep it moving.

127

wolfer
ID: 23732187
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 18:26

Problem was that I was leaving work when I posted and I did not have time for a queue or player.

128

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 19:55

FOLKS...see #125 above

130

holt
ID: 22726517
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 20:24

I'll check in throughout the night, and i'll be up late.

131

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 22:50

I'm back now, thanks for covering for me.

132

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 09:38

post 36...does anyone have a queue for biestiemiked?

I have 3 man a queue set to go when he picks.

133

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 10:50

Trip...during this draft pause...fill us in. How is the leg..mind..spirit??

BTW..thanks for leaving the clock at 4 hrs.

134

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 11:25

4 hrs for the clock Taxman???

I believe the clock is still at 6 hours, as beastiemiked went on the clock at 7:55 a.m. and still has approximately 2 and 1/2 hrs left until he times out. (Not sure; shakes head.)

135

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 11:49

I just mentioned moving the clock to 6 hours. I didn't adjust it. I assume that Toral or StL adjusted it based on that post, which is fine. We really have made great time lately, though it does suck for you at the moment.

Trust me though, it sucks for me worse.

I had surgery to reconstruct my ACL and meniscus repair, which lasted about 2 hours, I was under 15 mins before it started till 15 minutes after they finished. I have been given percocet for severe pain and vicaden for moderate pain. I am running low on percocet and have since switched to vicadin as of about an hour ago. I miss the percocet already. The vicadin puts me in more of a fog, while the percocet just numbs everything (to the point where I cannot even pee). When the drugs do start to wear off, it feels like somebody has bashed in my kneecap with a tire iron. When I do get up to go to the bathroom it feels like my leg weighs about 1000 lbs.

I think it is starting to feel a little better. That being said, I go to my first PT session on Monday. My brother has told me that the first PT visit was the worst part of the entire thing.

136

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 11:53

I've never touched the clock.

137

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 12:25

I am headed to Atlantic City - I'll be back tomorrow afternoon. I have a queue ready to go. If for some reason other people draft the crap I have in the queue and it becomes empty, temporarily change the clock and skip me.

138

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 13:20

I've got my eye on a couple of players I just missed drafting....I assume we can offer trade proposals at any time. Correct?

139

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 13:35

Slowhand [138], of course.

140

Da Bomb
ID: 36533242
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 13:45

Made a queue.
Please use only for round 22.

141

Toral
ID: 52621719
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 13:48

Never touched the clock.

142

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 14:07

I may have done it in my fog, but it usually sends out a notice if the settings are changed. Oh well, no big deal. I think a 6 hour clock is cool for the weekend anyway.

143

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 14:58

No big deal....we'll probabley be done tomorrow anyway.

144

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 15:21

13.12 Dan Morgan, LB, CAR

He has a glass head, so this pick is a swing for the fences. With this pick, I, without a doubt in my mind, land top 10 IDP talent...but the question is whether he will stay healthy enough to have top 10 production. This is pretty much where he went in the RIFC.

145

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 15:33

14.03 Angelo Crowell, LB, BUF

After taking a swing for the fences at 13.12 with Dan Morgan, I come back with another backer, however, this time a safer pick. Crowell played well last year when Spikes was out. He is extremely athletic, is a three-down backer, plays in the nickel, it is rumoured that Buffalo is implementing a new scheme with the plays funnelling to Crowell at the Will and he has nobody in back of him to lose his job to as the Bills have recently cut **undrafted linebacker**.

146

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 17:30

Wolfer has a queue in, but I am reluctant to use it as it would select the same position as last round. Since we are making good time and he would be up shortly after, I see no point in selecting for him.

147

holt
ID: 22726517
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 17:32

i picked for him at the same time you posted here.
feel free to pick from my queue any time guys, even if i'm around. if i don't want it used I'll turn it off.

148

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 17:59

That's cool. Hold on his next pick though.

149

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 21:18

I have left a queue as i don't think Michael is going to draft tonight...or before I leave for the airport in the morning.

Whomever uses my queue...please be sure that you select only ONE PK and ONE TE. I have left another position (OP) player at the top of my list, thus, I should get the OP with pick 22.14 and then a PK with pick 23.01. Do not draft for me in the 24th round...the last pick of the draft.

But..if Michael (beastiemiked) drafts my OP..then please do as follows: At 22.14, take my top PK and then at 23.01 draft the highest listed TE in my queue.

DO NOT DRAFT PK AT BOTH 22.14 AND 23.01

thanks for the help. Sorry that I can't sit around the computer for a few more hours as I did this morning when Michael ran 4+ hours off the clock. (Boy, I am really appreciative of the courteous managers that have posted ETA for when they think they will be back)

150

holt
ID: 22726517
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 21:25

dunno where you're going taxman, but have fun!

151

Tree
ID: 36772617
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 21:50

why did we not go to 4 hours? this is absurd...

152

Tree
ID: 36772617
Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 22:57

so the clock is going to "Stop" before he hits the 6 hours?

that is such BS. i mean, a whole afternoon and evening wasted!?!?

153

wolfer
ID: 23732187
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 00:17

Sorry about my queue guys. I put a list down on Saturday morning, wanted to adjust it, but didn't.

154

Da Bomb
ID: 77332513
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 03:19

StlCards - I emailed you instructions for my queue. Thanks.

155

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 03:41

anyone else getting this message when trying to log on to kafenatid?

message_die() was called multiple times. This isn't supposed to happen. Was message_die() used in page_tail.php?

whose pick are we on now?

156

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 04:59

i'm in now. nevermind.

157

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 07:13

we are *still* on BMD's pick.

nearly 14 hours later.

158

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 07:56

Re post 149,

Who has Taxman`s queue. For me, it merely indicates that Taxman is CURRENT PICK. Not that it matters alot...`cause once Taxman picks, bmd goes back on the 6 hour clock. I guess the best thing to do is to check back in 2:00 p.m. EDT.

159

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:05

no. my thoughts are that you should check in sooner.

i dont believe BMD goes right back on a 6 hour clock. it should be significantly shorter. like, and hour.

picking for Tax now...

160

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:07

picked. BMD is back on the clock.

161

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:12

...and as I said Tree, it`s a 6 hour clock. I`m not dumping on bmd (he advised that he was going to have sporadic internet access)...I`m merely stating that bmd may indeed time out again as a consequence of that sporadic internet access.

162

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:14

but if you know you're going to have sporadic internet access, you leave a queue!

i was moving all day friday, with extremely limited access, and i left a queue.

especially at this late point in the draft, when there is a lot of VERY deep throwing darts type of picks, leaving a queue ain't all that hard.

163

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:19

It`s frustrating. However, re post 72, I think he did leave a queue; it must have been burned up. It now seems that we are tied up until 2:06 p.m. EDT.

164

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:20

BMD is being skipped as we.

165

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:22

I set the draft pause for 2 minutes and then 8 people got skipped in 2 seconds. Tree, you are up.

Actually everyone had a queue ready but holt.

166

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:23

I saw that Trip. MISSED PICKS all over the map.

167

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:24

dang. that was nuts. all of a sudden i was like..WHOA!!!!

(i think my queue was just used, right?)

168

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:25

Holt is up, then StL. I don't know what the @#$% happened here. Everyone else has a queue set.

Suggestion, KKB add a skip turn to the admin options.

169

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:26

it looks like we're in the middle of a draft stop?

170

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:29

Not really, Holt is on the clock.

From the first sentence of the first draft discussion: People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.

We will restart as before once Holt and StL pick. Everyone else had a queue set.

171

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:32

ok. im confused. it says "DRAFT STOPPED" on my screen....

172

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:35

me too, at the Home Page it says DRAFT STOPPED. However, by going to Draft Peek, I can see that Trip selected Cedric Cobbs and wolfer selected Alex Smith (TE).

173

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:37

Sorry, Tree not Trip

174

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:40

and if you look, the pick keeps changing on the top of screen, but it still says DRAFT STOPPED.

175

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:43

Trip,

How the knee? Feeling any better?

176

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:44

this is weird...lol

177

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:47

E-mail sent to KKB.

The knee is actually feeling much better, thanks.

Can you guys access the draft room at all once it is stopped?

If not, holt will have to manually send me his selection for input.

178

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:50

the draft looks like it's skipping people or something. maybe its still on the 2 minute thing? because it's just about finished.

179

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:52

Trip,

Happy to here that. I`m thinking about getting my knees done too, but your plight yesterday had me thinking otherwise.

I can`t access the draft page. I can only see who is selected by going to draft peek.

180

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:54

yea..it looks like it's skipping picks galore, according to the peek...lol...

181

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 08:59

I`m not seeing that Tree. All I can see with the Peek is that you and wolfer have picked at 23.03 and 23.04.

182

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:04

on the page where it says DRAFT STOPPED, look at the top. we're actually now in Round 25 of 24.

that is not a typo...

183

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:10

Tree,

I went back to Draft Home and now I cannot access the League Draft Home page. That`s why I can`t see what you`re seeing.

184

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:16

try this link?

185

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:21

We are officially f'd until I hear back from KKB.

186

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:22

Does not work; it re-routes me to this immediately: http://www.kafenatid.net/on_the_clock/index.php

187

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:27

ok.

i think the last "official" pick was:

23.03 Cedric Cobbs RB DEN Tree

188

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:28

Well, at least I`m watching the Saints/Colts game on NFL Network as we speak. :-)

While we wait, where are my fellow participants from: Tree (Philly? As I`ve seen you post about ROH); Trip (Memphis? I thought you mentioned this when you drafted DWill); Toral (I believe that he is a fellow Canadian)...

189

Letter_J
ID: 127142215
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:33

re post 187, I see Alex Smith (TE) at 23.04 in Draft Peek

190

Tree
ID: 55711276
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 09:34

i'm from NYC, actually. Queens, baby.

191

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 11:56

My inbox is loaded with dp notices and a few it's your turn to pick notices too. Problem is that I didn't have my draft set up for anyone to pick for me. Should be interesting to see who is on my team now.

192

Tree
ID: 127352710
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 12:04

StL - i wouldnt worry about it....by now, i think it's on about round 33...

193

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 12:09

LOL, wonder how many offensive linemen I have now!

194

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 12:42

strange. anyway, I'll take WR Corey Bradford, Detroit.

195

Tree
ID: 127352710
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 12:56

well, my screen is purple, and i see a million queues...

196

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 13:07

i can see our proper draft picks by using draft peek. if we're gonna be picking on this board for a while, I better put my pick in bold:

23.05 Corey Bradford, WR, DET

197

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 13:25

Trip, not sure what the problem is, but can't you try to resume the draft, change the clock to longer, and then try deleting all the latest picks or something?

Seems like we should at least try to change the clock so it isn't flying along so fast, which can only add to the problem it would seem.

198

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 13:32

23.06 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila DL GB

I can't believe I could actually spell that with the hangover and billions of dead brain cells I'm dealing with this AM. Maybe you guys will give me a little more sympathy than my wife :-(

199

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 13:54

I went ahead and changed the clock back to 4 hours. Hopefully this will slow down the number of emails I'm getting anyway.

200

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:01

I'm going to resume the draft and see what happens and try to figure out how screwed up this is. No one pick right now. I'm guessing Trip isn't around right now?

201

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:03

I'm around. It is pretty screwed up. I think our best option right now is to just wait on KKB.

202

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:04

203

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:05

do you have aim?

204

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:09

what is your aol id?

I think mine is daytripsta

205

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:12

kes2golf

206

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:23

The draft is on hold until we hear back from KKB.

Hopefully we will hear back from him this afternoon. Monday AM is probably the worst case scenario.

We are almost done and these last couple of rounds probably won't last a full day.

We've got plenty of time before the season starts. Continuing the draft any other way has the potential to become a real disaster.

207

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 14:43

was just comparing our league rules to the RIFC's league rules. only things that didn't match up were FA deadlines, KO return TD's, and punt return td's.

208

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 15:01

In case the draft resumes this afternoon, could I ask that nobody pick from my queue until I post otherwise? I want to see who I got yesterday and adjust my queue accordingly. Thanks.

Smith32

209

holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 15:12

you can see who was drafted by using the draft peek.

210

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 18:03

Cool - thanks. I'll still need to adjust my queue when the site comes back up, so everyone please hold off on making any picks from it.

211

Tree
ID: 427122717
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 18:13

you hear from Fred?

212

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 20:14

We are now reset. Sorry for the inconvenience.

213

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 20:34

21.09 James Allen, LB, NO

This is what happens when you make a queue very quickly before leaving. You get the wrong name and end up with someone who had 5 total tackles in 2005 and is out for the 2006 season. D'oh!

214

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 20:57

My queue has been reset. Bombs away if you get a DP notice. Thanks.

215

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 08:21

I've got to go to Court right now...Will make my pick right around 10:30 a.m. EDT. Sorry for the delay, but the guy I had picked for this spot was taken not too long ago.

216

Smith32
ID: 356192015
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 11:01

Is there a rule regarding free agents / waivers between the conclusion of the draft and the start of the season? Is it first-come first-served? I need to dump Mr. Allen for a kicker.

217

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 11:10

You will need to wait until after the draft is complete. It will be first come - first serve after that point.

218

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 15:33

15.12 Philip Rivers, QB, SDG

When it comes to Rivers, there is not a great deal of consensus among "fantasy experts". Some are of the view that this first-year starter will not do so well and experience growing pains. Others feel that (1) the Chargers were comfortable enough with Rivers to let Brees go, and (2) with LT and Gates and the fact that he is a third year QB that has had two full years to learn the system, all of the foregoing will be a blueprint for success.

From my perspective, Rivers is probably just a bye-week filler and a start when Vick has a terrible matchup.

219

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 15:46

16.03 Eric Moulds, WR, HOU

Without a doubt, he's the second option in Houston. Still, a second option still on the board in the 16th round seemed like value to me. It's because Carr is throwing him the ball that he's fallen this far. Kubiak (I know, I know, Kubiak's not the OC) spread the ball around when he had two legitimate WR in Denver (Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey (and yeah Shannon Sharpe)). He's a legitimate target and here's to hoping Carr can get him the damn ball.

Oh, and by the way, look at Mould's stats in even years: 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004 at http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1196. Is this an anomaly or can an aging Moulds do it again in 2006?

220

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 16:01

17.12 Ben Troupe, TE, TEN

IMHO, Troupe is a potential big-time breakout player. He merely has to stay healthy to realize his vast potential (his skills are insane). And pairing him with Ben Watson provides for huge upside at this position at not a huge cost (10th and 17th round).

If that's not enough, IIRC, Tennessee set a record for targets to the Tight End position last year. If that trend continues, Troupe could possibly break into the top 5 in TE's this year.

I rolled the dice on two potential breakout TE's last year, hit both and was later rewarded handsomely.

221

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 16:41

Draft is Complete, everyone should pick up any remaining players and verify their team is correct as drafted.

222

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 17:13

Smith32[217]
Correction to my 218

From the RIFC discussion:
In the past, all undrafted players were frozen for at least 48 hours, after which time there would be a one-time, preseason waiver process, in reverse order of the first round of the draft. (This needs to be done manually, via email to the commish). After those are processed, all unclaimed players are released to free agency, first come, first served.

All teams need to add their own players by the end of the day on Tuesday. I caught everyone up through round 20 on Saturday morning. If your rosters aren't correct on Wednesday AM and I haven't heard from you, it isn't my problem.

The 48 hour freeze will come into effect Wednesday evening. Players will be unfrozend when I get access to a computer on Friday evening/Saturday morning.

223

Toral
ID: 52621719
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 17:55

There's already been at least one pick-up, by Smith 32.

224

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 18:28

If there are any objections to Smith's transaction, I will reverse it.

225

Tree
ID: 27482818
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 21:29

i cant even get on the aol fantasy site now to input players... :o/

226

Smith32
ID: 355452918
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 21:47

Sorry, I went by post 217 and made the move prior to post 222. I should probably be pushed to the back of the waiver line if I am allowed to keep the player I acquired.

227

Da Bomb
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 04:42

I can't believe he wasn't drafted. He was a top rated kicker on many sites.

228

Tree
ID: 47743295
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 06:49

well, as someone who did not draft a kicker, i'd like to have a fair shot at any kicker on the waiver wire.

229

Smith32
ID: 356192015
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 07:54

FWIW - I would be ahead of Tree in the waiver order, and everyone ahead of me already has a kicker.

230

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 12:33

Woah...

As I posted several times last Friday/Saturday waiting for the traveling biestiemiked to pick, I am on the road, arriving Austin after midnight. I have no computer access until I get home @2 EST tonight. Because I have early appointments tomorrow that will tie me up through the day....I request a 24 hour delay before you set the wolves lose.

Please consider moving your deadline back 24 hours...or confirm that my team is in accordance with the kafenatid draft results.

Thanks..taxman/donny

231

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 12:50

I verified Taxman's team and added the remaining players.

232

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 12:51

taxman/all,

I will add the rest of your players for you. All players then will be frozen for 48 hours. Any team who wishes to make a waiver claim will need to send me an e-mail.

beastiemiked, wolfer, tree & jtserb

You guys still need to add the rest of your players. As stated previously, it is not my problem if your roster is not complete.

Smith32, check your e-mail.

I will start a new regular season discussion thread tomorrow. I am awaiting guru's protocol for the draft recap thread. It amy be a good idea to go ahead and write down a few of your impressions.

233

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 13:09

i believe my roster is now complete.

234

Da Bomb
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 19:54

What goes into the strategy of not drafting a kicker?

235

holt
ID: 22726517
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 23:13

i haven't taken a kicker yet. they're all the same. figured i'd take an extra position prospect and wait a few extra days to let position battles play out before picking up a K.

236

wolfer
ID: 23732187
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 23:37

I believe that my roster is now complete.

237

JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 23:46

I picked up 4 remaining players on my team.. sorry about the delay.

238

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 01:47

I have just hit the house (thanks to a great tail wind) a half hour ahead of schedule. My thanks and sincere gratitude to Kirk (StLCards) for loading the remainder of my draft picks and double checking the roster against the draft. I guess that has me set to go.

And having had the #1 draft pick, I am at the aSS end of the first round pre draft waiver claims anyhow.

Thanks again Kirk

239

Letter_J
ID: 33501914
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 08:03

Da Bomb re post 234,

As stated by holt in post 235, kickers are all pretty much all the same (difference of give or take a point a week between ranks 1 and 15). People still remember last year when Rackers was not selected at all in most drafts, and emerged as the #1 ranked kicker. In addition, unless you draft a top-end kicker, a manager will probably release his kicker during his bye week anyways.

As such, in drafts such as ours where the draft is held further away from the start of the season, the kicker's roster spot is used to gamble on a pick up at another offensive position (QB, RB or WR usually), with the manager hoping that that late pick claims a starting job (or a stud goes down to injury in the pre-season and the late pick assumes the starting gig).

240

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 08:35

Player transactions are now locked. Everyone has until this evening to verify that their teams are correct. I will reopen transactions Friday morning Any waiver requests that you would like to make before I unfreeze must be sent to me by then.

I will add the remaining players to bmd, Letter_J and jtserb's teams, but Kafenatid is currently down and I can't see the results. Thanks for the help guys.

241

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 09:12

I've created a regular season discussion thread here: Regular Season Discussion

Please discontinue posting in this thread.

242

StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 12:50

I've gone through and verified every team. Smith32 is a player short (James Allen, LB, NO) and I assume that has something to do with his pickup that was talked about as I don't see any new players on that team.

The Fighting Jed Clampetts drafted Thomas Davis as a DB, but he is a LB in aol.

Slowhand drafted Michael Boulware as a LB, but he is a DB in aol.

Didn't see anything else other than aol thinks that Witherspoon is still on Car, and I guess there could be other things like that that should be corrected by aol sooner or later.

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StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:48

This is worth posting from the rifc thread:

Waiver claims can be submitted during the 48 hours after the draft, processed in reverse order of the draft. (I guess it makes sense to snake these priorities for this one time, although I don't ever recall anyone submitting more than one claim at this stage of the season.)

The Fanball/AOL system will not administer preseason waivers, so the commish has to do this manually. Waiver claims should be emailed to the commish, stating the player to add & the player to drop. At the end of the waiver period, the commish will manually determine the waiver awards and make the necessary roster moves. Then, all undrafted players can be released to free agency, and players can be picked up 1st come, first served. The next waiver claim period does not occur until after the first week of games.

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