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0 Subject: RIFC AA Draft Discussion #2

Posted by: Astade
- [57544126] Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 17:47

RIFC AA Draft Discussion #1
1mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 19:02
VP's Q is dry. See you in two.
2Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 22:25
Yeah we did really well today when people had Qs, but dragging again. Please be considerate when you can of your leaguemates. Not that we're in as much of a rush than before, just hard to sit through two 2 hour waits on the same person.

Draft is getting interesting. Some very good picks still being made.
3TD
      Sustainer
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 22:26
Set up a queue of 2 players for one of my DPs to use tonight. If one of the players is gone, I will make my pick tomorrow morning.
4 judy
      ID: 487162821
      Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 22:30
I hope we will give TD a chance to do his picks before the pause,
even though Rob times out at 11:03...

I agree -- we did well today, but ya gotta leave those Q's!

Very good picks? - most of the guys I am picking now I have
never heard of, but I did try and research them -- it's been lots
of fun!

Gotta study the waiver and trade rules next, although I like my
team so far!
5Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 22:33
The site pauses at 11, so he can not pick until 7:03 am if he so chooses.
6mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 00:20
At some point in time, I'd like to have a discussion on how the WW and claims works for RIFC sanction leagues.

We have a few newbies here and I feel like managers should be able to use this AA experience as a learning experience.
7weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 00:39
Sorry for the delay folks....had some PB to attend to.
Made my picks and the picks for TD.
We should be in great shape.....75% done.
8Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 08:15
Oh flock! Some players that I took a wait gamble on are now flying off the board.

Back to the drawing board...
9Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 08:22
Is anybody else kicked out of Kafenatid? It seems like it crashed on me.
10 judy
      ID: 487162821
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 09:28
A question.
I am trying to decide on my last picks. I have the minimun at
every position to start in the non bye weeks.

Do you have to field a full bench? For example, I have Akers as
my PK, but his bye week is #9. Do I have to find a back up or
can I go without a PK that week? Same for Team D. (My team D
and PK have the same bye week -- which is not great -- but HEY
I am an Eagles fan...)

Thanks.
11Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 10:19
Re Post 10. Not that I want to help out the competition too much, but I would advise that you are better off starting a player at each position every week. By week nine, you'll be able to see if you want to discard your kicker and pick up a kicker that has been doing well or that has a good matchup from the waiver wire. You may have some players that have just been sitting on your bench that you want to drop and then you can add an availabe replacement at D or K.

I think that the site will let you start your team without a full roster, but I don't remember from last year, as I never tried it.

Just my 2 cents.
12Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:06
Worst case scenario you start a player on bye week, but many sites require your starting roster to be filled. In the rules it shows there to be a min. of 1 player at every position.
13mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:08
re:10 "When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the software will force you to fill each of the 14 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly"

That's a direct quote from the header of the first draft discussion thresd.
14mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:13
Thread, I'm just having my first cup of coffee.

You can start a player with a bye, but you score 0 points for that player.
15 judy
      ID: 487162821
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:27
Oh, so, for example, I can list Akers as a starter, knowing he
won't play, and then not get any points.

That would work for the PK position. I am not sure I would do it
for Team D though.

All kinds of subtle stuff here...but most of what I'll be doing will
be pot luck anyway!
16TD
      Sustainer
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:28
In previous leagues, I have carried only one kicker and one defense for most of the season. When there was a bye week, I picked up a free agent kicker or defense for only that bye week. I made sure that the kicker and defense had different bye weeks.

Some other managers carried two kickers or defenses the whole season and chose them each week based on matchup.
17mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 11:31
The site must have been down when VP tried to fill his Q last night, as he could not access it. He emailed me his Coleman pick. Hopefully he gets on today to fill his Q.
18Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 13:38
Hi guys,

I know I'm on the clock. I'm just thinking about it for 10 mins. I'll pick shortly, I promise!
19Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 13:43
There.
20mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 13:43
I need a few minutes. I hate when real life impacts my fantasy draft.
21mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:01
Done and mini-crisis avoided.
22Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:02
I hear ya mjd! Real life really sux at times. Untill Friday arrives and you can unwind with real life beer, wine and whatever else you fancy... within the limits or reason and good taste, of course!
23mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:30
Nice disclaimer =)
24Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:36
Thanks! As a relatively laid back individual, I've had to use it. I've too often found myself in a position where my opinion was "I'm up for anything" or "whatever you decide". Adding that little disclaimer keeps me from sending the wrong message.
25mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 14:38
Good idea
26 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 15:21
Looks like I made a good choice -- LB Joey Porter is on the front
cover of SI --

OR, will it be the SI jinx?
27Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 15:50
SI jinx, Madden jinx, you name it! ;)

Pete isn't around, so he will almost assuredly time out. twilson will be up in 35 mins or so.
28Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 17:41
Thank goodness the clock is only two hours!!! I have both Pete and Twarpy's qs but you guys used them all up apparently. Twarpy gave me a long q yesterday and gave me free form, but it was all QBs and I am pretty sure he doesn't want a 3rd QB. I'm sure Pete has no idea his q is used up but he told me yesterday that he was overloaded, but told me he had a q.
29mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 18:39
If this becomes problematic, I can put a placeholder in and replace it later. We're good on time, so no worries now.

I have a live draft and I'm leaving soon. I will check in from time to time.

32Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 00:25
TD is up, Judy can you send his q to mjd? Really want to get this thing over so I can do other things. ;)
33boikin
      ID: 41745118
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 00:59
this late rounds are pretty dry if i draft another IDP i think i may die....ill probably be dead in the morning.
35twilson
      ID: 177463022
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 01:47
I'm going to the US Open tomorrow, so I'll be out for most of the day. I've left a queue that I think will last. To my designated pickers, please do not take more than one kicker or IDP. I have the queue ranked by position. Thank you!
36mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 01:48
TD sent me an email at 10:30 PM that he was back and would make his picks.

Yeah, this is the most painful part of a draft like this.

It's beyond a crapshoot, at this point, but we must finish. Most of these picks are just placeholders for players that will be on our rosters in the near future. So keep stuffing those Qs with names and we'll be done very soon. You can never be too young or have too many RBs.

ONLY 56 picks left. Go to nfl.com and look at the depth charts. Yank a sleeper off there and add him to your Q and make everyone a DP. Repeat x10 today and tomorrow.

We've come so far, made 279 picks in just about a week. That's got to be a record for a AA league.
37 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 07:41
TO MY DP'S -- No more than one person per position please.

RB/TE/LB/DL

I'll be back around noon - 12:30
38Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 11:48
I'm still surprised by the lack of qs left. Yesterday we didn't even make two complete rounds even though most of the league picked immediately when they were up. Astade's q has been full the entire draft and we've been able to go right pas him. I've got to go soon so I will fill my q.

Another thing weird as I look at teams and try to predict needs to base on when I think a player or a certain position will go--people don't nec. follow that logic. Guess I can talk about it more after the draft.
40Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:14
Looking aorund on the site. Looks like we need the schedule set up for game 2 of each week.
41 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:15
I am back so I turned off my Q so I could manage it. I will be
checking the computer every 25 min or so.
42mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:27
Re:40 AOL will setup single games, but double headers have to be done by hand. I'm working on a way that's very random to schedule these games. I may not get to it until early next week. Try to make it as balanced as I can. 14 teams, 14 games per week, and 13 weeks.

Anyone heard from Pete?
43Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:35
Well you got to make sure that no one plays the same team twice in each week. Instead of reinventing the wheel let's get one of the AAA leagues to tell us how they do it.

Havne't seen Pete or Twarpy. No emails nothing. Pete was on briefly yesterday to make his missed pick in G24 and Twarpy was on today it seems to make his missed pick here. I have free form DP but no q from him. Most of these picks will probably be thrown back anyhow, so why not leave a q? Doesn't take that much time. Things need to get done by the commish to get this league set-up, like inputting players, schedules, waivers, etc so we need to get this thing done. Waivers in itself is a two day wait. I'd hate to lower it to less than 2 hrs ordinarily, but it seems that people are either picking very quickly, leaving a q or timing out, so I don't have an issue with lowering it to one hour if need be. I don't think most people realize how much time the commish is going to have to spend on this league to get it ready.
44Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:45
VP and mjd,

I've put you in touch via email with Trip, a commish for one of the AAA leagues who cna walk you through how to do everything.

We still need a lot of players put in the site. Labor-intensive but at least that is easy. ;)
45 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:49
More questions:

On the AOL site in the team roster section what do the % under
usage mean? (Brady has a 95/55% and poor B Marshall has 0/0%)

46mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:04
Thanks, Ref. I thought that there might be a formula.

I've been in touch with VP, and his internet access is very limited. I know that he's in Germany. I'm thinking that he might be US Military.

I think each manager can pick up their players off the FA list and self load them. VP has not been able to help with this, so try going in and loading your own players to your team. I'll be watching and can help as needed.

Judy, I'm not sure what that means. Probably some useless AOL stats, percentage owned/percentage starting or something like that.
47 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:11
How about we lower the time limit to one hour beginning tomorrow
-- Friday? We are so close to being finished.

I'll still need help with waiver/FA stuff. I tried the AOL site but it
was not helpful. There is no rush as I think I am set with my lineup
for the first week.
48Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:20
Lowering the time limit it more for the commishs to set thing sup so we can you preseason WW. According to Guru, the rules are that once everything is set up, rosters are frozen. If you want a WW, you email the commish. Then once the 48 hrs are up the commish assings the players based on priority. Then drops other players and opens up the FA pool. Everything else also has to be done including making sure all players are picked up before locking rosters. Like I said, lots to do and VP isn't even around, so mjd has to do it himself. Hopefully Trip can help a lot, but obviously we have to get this draft done first. I think we should have dropped it to an hour limit this morning but the sooner the better IMM. Wouldn't be an issue if so many people weren't timing out as it is. If they are going to time out anyway, let's get this draft done with.
49Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:21
btw, couldn't figure out how to start/activate players. site wasn't allowing me to upload team logo, etc. But I will go in and pcik up my own layers if the site will allow. That would help out the commishs a lot.
50 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:24
All my players are loaded onto the AOL already. It looks like most
are -- when you go to the team grid on AOL. Someone deserves
credit for doing this so quickly - is it mjd?
51mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:30
I'm also thinking of skipping anyone with one or more timeouts on the board when it comes back to them. I'd put a placeholder in that spot and they can tell me later, and I'll just swap it out. Like Ref said, most of these picks are throw backs and are really just placeholders any way.

Judy, go to the help dropdown and read FAQ and Tutorials. We'll talk more about waver, claims, and FA. I have loaded some teams up to round 20.

I want to finish this thing by tomorrow.
52 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:37
"throwbacks?" I am SERIOUS about my picks -- just kidding.
53 mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:39
Ref pretty much summed things up. Once the draft is complete, we will start the 48 hour add/drop moratorium, during which time any manager may submit a waiver claim for any undrafted player. Claims must be submitted to me via email. If you are submitting a claim, indicate the player to add (name, pos, & team - please) and the corresponding player to drop. If you have more than one claim to make, put them all in one email and prioritize them as well. Please put "RIFC AA WAIVER CLAIM" in the subject line.
54Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:42
mjd, email coming with the scheduling formula...
55 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:43
I would agree to pass over Peter as he clearly is not around and we
can speed up a little. I am guessing he would not mind...?

I opened my Q for my 21.10 pick. It is a RB and I will get either #1
or #2 so it is "safe".

I am doing errands away from the computer for a while -- if it is a
2 hour wait, I will be back in time, but my Q is fine as it stands for
my DP and the commish..
56mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:48
Anyone have a problem if I skip Pete. He already has 2 timeouts on the board.
57The Treasonists
      Donor
      ID: 171572711
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:53
Do you know how the waiver order works? Is it reverse order of the draft? I think I remember seeing that at some point the team with the worst record goes first. Then it goes like that every week. When does that start.
58Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:00
Guru answered that in the rifc thread in the football forum. It snakes in the preseason with #14 going first. It resets every week for the first 6 weeks with worst recordgoing first. Then it is permanent. It changes again in the playoffs IIRC.

Pete is on AIM but is idle. Anyone that is skipped once, should be skipped automatically until they makeup their earlier missed pick. That's the way it is in all of the other leagues I play in.
59mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:09
Mungro is a placeholder for Pete. I believe that Mungro is on IR.

Pete, post who you want here, and I'll swap em out.
60mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:17
Mungro must have replaced his previous missed pick. Carlos Francis is a WR far down the Raiders depth chart. If someone actually wants him, you can still pick him.
61mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:24
At the end of this round, the clock goes to 1 hour.
62 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:32
Thanks DP's.

For 22.05, the Q is all set for a LB; if they are taken the TE who is
next is fine; I doubt we'll get to the DB, but just no more than one
of each, please.

Also, is there a group email to let everyone know we are going to
one hour -- ie like TD and the others near the top?
63TD
      Sustainer
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:37
When the clock is changed, Kafenatid sends an email to everyone. That should be sufficient.
64Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:38
I've got a q set up for myself. I only want one of the remaining players so if for some reason, hell freezes over and it gets to me twice in the next 3 or 4 hours, do not make a 2nd pick for me.
65mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:42
TD, do me a favor, if you can. Go to AOL and add your players to your team. I'm really swamped now and need some help.

Let me know if you do.

Good thing I don't have a real job.
66boikin
      ID: 400291013
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 14:52
did we get a solution for the double headers yet? could we just set up two aol leagues? and then set the playoffs by hand?
67mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 15:02
I'll deal with schedules early next week. Right now we need to load rosters, finish the draft, and prepare for waver claims

But thanks, boikin, I was thinking along those lines. I'll be getting an email from a AAA commish with their formula also.
68TD
      Sustainer
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 15:06
mjd,
I successfully added my players to AOL.
69mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 15:12
Thanks, TD
70mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 15:21
I'll have everyone's roster complted to this point in in the draft in a few minutes.

After you make a pick, go to AOL and load that player onto your roster. I get an email everytime a roster move is made.

Thanks in advance, for your cooperation.

If your DP picks for you, add it later. I'll add it if I happen to see it was picked by a DP. But please go check.
71mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 15:38
Only 45 picks left.

All rosters should be current to round 20 or 21. When you add your next player, go to your roster and make sure you have all your picks and that you have the correct players.
72mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 17:14
Shawn Lynch is a placeholder for muhahos. His Q was empty and he timed out last round. Let me know who you really want.
73mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 17:29
Another placeholder for PeterN.
74 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 17:32
I added Vrabel to my AOL roster and will do so for my last 2
players!
75Greybear
      ID: 127142215
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 17:45
I've prepared a queue for the first time in my life!!!

If it gets back to me tonight, use it up, assuming that it doesn't go empty, but I don't think it will. If I get to a PC, I'll turn it off but for now, mjd you are in charge (hope you don't mind.) If the Q is empty, put a placeholder. I just have some emergencies and can't really put my attention to the draft any longer today.

Best,
V.
76mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 18:12
Thanks Judy and those who are going onto AOL and picking up your players. Up to now, this commish job was easy. Now it's very busy and I'm grateful for the help.

No problem, GB
77Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 19:02
This is Labor Day Weekend. We relaly need to complete the draft by like Noon tomorrow if at all possible. We all need to add our own players asap. MJD I emailed you the scheduling formula that Trip sent me.
78mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 19:22
Thanks, Ref. I'll let you know when I get it.

We will finish tomorrow, but probably not by noon.
79 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 19:38
Do we skip Rob since he missed his pick on the way up?
80mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 20:13
I have skipped a bunch of people who have already timed out on one pick by puting a placeholder in their subsequent pick(s).

It's up to each individual manager to post who they want in what specific pick. You might want to do this before the roster freeze, which will start sometime tomorrow. If you miss getting your player(s) before the roster freeze, you might be forced to get that player(s) via the waver wire or free agency.

I'm unsure of the RIFC rules regarding this situation.
82Peter N.
      ID: 397421716
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 20:47
Give me.

Josh Scobee, K, JAC
San Diego DEF
Marcedes Lewis, TE, JAC
Sinorice Moss, WR, NYG
83 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 21:28
ALL MY PICKS ARE entered on AOL. I am "all set".
84mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 21:34
Thanks, Judy

Pete, done and you're OTC
85Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 21:41
Make sure that everyone gets their picks fixed in OTC asap if you were skipped.
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 21:42
Twarpy is OTC. We might get done yet tonight.
87mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 21:46
We might, but we have alot of placeholders and I'm unsure of the RIFC rules regarding that.

Ref, I never recieved that email.
88Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:02
email me and I'll reply with it. I'm using the email you used a couple weeks ago.

I added my players to the aol site. I want to put all the drafted players in my SS and draft grid, so can't do that until all the place holders are filled. Maybe you can send an email to people as well and tell them to post their place holders. Then you can post and let us know when it's done.
89mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:05
Should we give a deadline before I freeze?
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:12
Yes, give everyone a chance to pick their players up--say Noon tomorrow. Sound good? Mjd, that's the same email I sent it to before. FWIW, here is the scheduling issue:

The hardest part will probably be setting up the doubleheader schedule. I asked guru how he did it, and luckily I have not had to reset it up since originally putting it together.

What we ended up doing was letting fanball generate a singleheader schedule first where every team played another team once. Then we copied that schedule for later reference, and proceeded to set up a doubleheader schedule.

Game 1 Game 2
Week 1 Week 13
Week 2 Week 12
Week 3 Week 11
Week 4 Week 7
Week 5 Week 8
Week 6 Week 9
Week 7 Week 10
Week 8 Week 4
Week 9 Week 5
Week 10 Week 6
Week 11 Week 3
Week 12 Week 2
Week 13 Week 1
91mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:35
Ref. that's kind of what I was thinking schedule-wise.

Emails sent to muhahos, VP, Twarpy and weykool.

We will start the 48 hour add/drop moratorium at noon tomorrow, during which time any manager may submit a waiver claim for any undrafted player. Claims must be submitted to me via email. If you are submitting a claim, indicate the player to add (name, pos, & team - please) and the corresponding player to drop. If you have more than one claim to make, put them all in one email and prioritize them as well. Please put "RIFC AA WAIVER CLAIM" in the subject line.

I will process any waiver claims as of noon on Sunday, Sept. 3. Priorities will be in reverse draft order. While one could make a case for snaking these priorities, there is no precedent for snaking waivers, so "second round" claims will be in the same priority as the first waiver round. (per Guru, post 466, on the RIFC draft discussion thread)

After processing waiver claims, all unclaimed players will be released to free agency, available first come, first served. Players dropped during the waiver claiming will be subject to a 48 hour waiting period, but there will be no more waiver claims until after the first week of NFL games. Waiver priorities for that period will be based on records for the first weekend (worst-to-first).
92 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:44
HI REF,

You mentioned putting info into a SS. I tried to use the view in
Excel from the Draft Grid and then save it, but it weirded out on
me. The columns on the left are all screwed up. WOnder why? I
also emailed it to myself somehow and it looks great, but does not
print out all the columns.
HMMM.
93mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 22:49
Also I set up a RIFC AA Draft Recap
94mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:06
If you notice any mistakes in your roster, please let me know ASAP. It's much easier to correct now, before someone tries to claim a player that should be yours.
95Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:11
judy, I'll post once these four teams get their picks in. I am just not confident that everyone will have all of their players in their draft grid by Noon tomorrow.

If you don't put your own players on your team on the AOL site then you won't have anyone to drop to even do waivers. What a mess. Everyone has a rl and gets busy, but it's tough when we're trying to draft and get organized and there are so many picks still unaccounted for.
96twilson
      ID: 327123122
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:19
As I said in post 35, I only wanted to draft one of the kickers from my queue. Therefore, can I replace him with someone else from my queue prior to the start of waivers?
97Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:26
I have no objections to it.
99mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:40
NP twilson, who do you want?

Sorry for the confusion
100weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 23:46
What the hell happened?
Who made the last 3 picks for me?
This is BS.
There is a whole week till the season starts and we were well ahead of schedule.
I would like to get a decent and rational explanation for this.
If someone is saying that because I missed 1 pick and that is justification for making my last 3 picks I say that is total BS.
101mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:06

Most of these last picks are crapshoots and placeholders any way.

We need time to clear wavers and allow for preseason trades and FA pickups.
102weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:12
And how long does it take for waivers to clear?
103mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:13
See 91. Tell me who you want and I'll correct your roster.
104Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:15
weykool. Those are just placeholders. You timed out and mjd put players in there to hold the place. Just tell him who you want and he will replace them, but do it before Noon. This is Labor Day Weekend when most won't be around. So Waivers need to get started since it has to be done manually. Also all players need to be put in your team. There is a LOT of work the commishs have to do to get the league ready. It's not like we go straight from the draft to the season starting.
105mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:17
Hey, it's a RIFC sanctioned league. I'm not making the rules, I'm just trying to follow them.
106Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:18
mjd, i'd send out a league wide emial if i were you but focus on the people who need to add the players they want before you start waivers.
107mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:26
I sent the emails, already

It's interesting to note, my wife asked, "What's the upside for you to step up here."

Well, the big dummy (me), has no real answer except to say, "I get to play".
108Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:37
I hear that ALL he time!!! I don't even have an answer!

mjd, you know, you're going to have to make sure all the rosters are filled before you can even think about waivers. If you don't get cooperation, you're either going to have to load all rosters yourself or not honor waivers from those that haven't done it. Not sure the later would be fair, so you may want to wait until later than Noon to give everyone a chance. Your call.
109mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 00:54
They might just have to go through wavers. Like I said , it's a RIFC sanctioned league. I'm not making the rules, I'm just trying to follow them.
110mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 11:38
No takers on the replacement players?

No emails either
111twilson
      ID: 177463022
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 12:30
Re:99, I would like Justin Fargas, RB, OAK to replace Jeff Reed, K, PIT. Thank you.
112Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 12:46
Well can't say you didn't try. If they're not around, they're not around.
113mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 12:57
OK twilson
114Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 13:01
So after you fix Wilson, is the draft complete and waivers are being turned on?

I guess I'm still a little surprised that people got involved in a RIFC sanctioned game and not prepared to even show up enough to draft.

Judy, I'll post the draft grid and/or email it to you if you can't get the .xls file to work for you.
115mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 13:49
The following still have placeholders on their team

VP-2
Twerpy-3
weykool-3
muhahos-3

I suppose if I get a response by 3 PM, I'll replace them
Otherwise, they will be treated and processed as waver claims, as the rosters are frozen.

Like I said before, I don't know how RIFC rules handle this, but I'm not going to bother Guru, as he's very busy getting his site ready for the season. If someone wants to consult/poll other RIFC members, feel free. I'm open to suggestions
117mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 15:09
If any manager who has a placeholder does not post their replacement players by 11:59 PM TODAY, I will consider said team abandoned and seek a replacement manager. I'm speaking of the following managers:

VP
twerpy
muhahos

Email notifications have also been sent
118MUHAHOS
      ID: 27571823
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 16:05
please replace shawn lynch,james mungro,jon jansen with jeff
wilkens stl kicker, ladell betts (was), musa smith (bal)

thank you and sorry for the delay
119 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 16:14
Ref can you email it to me as an excel file. I can't seem to get the
columns lined up.
Thanks.
120mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 16:16
Done MUHAHOS

twerpy
VP
weykool

are still carrying placeholders and subject to replacement at 11:59
121mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 16:17
after 11:59
122weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 16:47
I cant tell who is and is not available.
I will make my replacements once all the players are entered into AOL and replace them through the normal WW process.
Thanks.
123mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 17:13
weykool, maybe you can correlate this with this

or wait for wavers to clear.

Regardless, I'm glad that you're with us
124weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 17:45
Okay.
My 3 replacemnts are:
Tony Parish DB
Jared Allen DL
Kendrell Bell LB

Thanks
125mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 17:53
You're set, please check your roster for accuracy.

Thanks
127 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 18:41
Averages?? what are they?
128Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 18:46
The avg draft pick in all four RIFC leagues. See Guru's thread here for complete averages of all picks.

I sure wish I knew why my tables are so big and moving so far right!!!
129Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 19:00
I'm going to repost the table in 126. The red are picks in which I reached for compared to league avg. and the green are the ones that fel to me compared to league average and by difference in picks.
132Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 19:13
Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Difference avg min max count
1.07 Ronnie Brown RB MIA -2 1.09 1.07 1.11 4
2.08 Chester Taylor RB MIN -2 2.1 2.08 2.12 4
3.07 Antonio Gates TE SDG -4 3.11 3.07 4.02 4
4.08 Eli Manning QB NYG -1 4.09 3.14 5.03 4
5.07 T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 9 4.13 4.04 5.07 4
6.08 Rod Smith WR DEN 7 6.1 5.08 7.11 4
7.07 Laveranues Coles WR NYJ 15 6.06 5.1 7.07 4
8.08 Zach Thomas LB MIA 16 7.06 6.05 8.08 4
9.07 Nick Barnett LB GNB 8 8.13 7.13 9.11 4
10.08 Andra Davis LB CLE 21 9.01 7.12 10.08 4
11.07 Jason Taylor DL MIA 21 9.14 8.02 11.07 4
12.08 Gibril Wilson DB NYG 35 10.1 9.08 12.08 4
13.07 Darrent Williams DB DEN -25 15.04 11.13 19.01 4
14.08 Byron Leftwich QB JAX 11 13.11 11.01 15.08 4
15.07 Wali Lundy RB HOU -23 17.02 15.07 18.1 4
16.08 Braylon Edwards WR CLE -6 16.14 14.12 18.12 4
17.07 Brandon Lloyd WR WAS -11 18.04 17.02 20.03 3
18.08 Travis Henry RB TEN 7 18.01 12.04 23.04 3
19.07 Gerald Hayes LB ARI -6 19.13 18.05 21.12 3
20.08 Shayne Graham K CIN 7 20.01 17.13 21.1 4
21.07 Dallas Cowboys DEF DAL 68 16.09 11.04 21.07 4
22.08 Detroit Lions DEF DET -8 23.02 22.08 23.1 2
23.07 Ciatrick Fason RB MIN -7 23.14 22.12 24.14 4
24.08 Travis Taylor WR MIN 21 23.01 21.13 24.08 3
  Total     151 12.1616667 10.5383333 13.7475 3.75
133 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 19:18
This is too much statistical stuff -- I need to play a game!!

I've got my starters all set for Week 1 (assuming no one is
injured...).
134mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 20:42
Schedule is set for us to play doubleheaders, this year
135 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 21:14
I went to the AOL site to decipher what doubleheader meant and it
looks as though I play two games during week 1:
vs team 12 and vs team 7 --
so that must be a doubleheader. As far as I can tell, I'll probably
use the same lineup for each one? I am not sure how to adjust for
the different GURU teams we play. So any thoughts on that would
be appreciated -- but don't give away any of your special matchup
secrets -- if you don't want to!
136 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 21:20
Upon further review of a pull down menu, we play doubleheaders
each week!
137mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 00:17
We've past the deadline for managers with placeholders to declare those placeholder's replacements.

I'm now officially accepting applications for replacement managers.

Serious applicants only, please and leave an email address.
138mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 11:25
I'm leaving for a barbeque at around 2:30 and won't be back until after 9. I sent a couple of emails out to potential replacement managers, but haven't heard anything back yet. Might be tough on a holliday weekend.
139Astade
      ID: 57544126
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 12:15
mjd, a good filter...

we'll only get the serious managers :)
140Twarpy
      ID: 36820211
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 12:20
Sorry guys, I had some personal issues that came up these past couple of days, that required full attention, and to be quite honest this draft, my TSN baseball team etc have not been touched, nor have I even logged on at all, Im sorry about the circumstances, and if you want to replace me by all means do, but if not I will be active throughout the year.
141mjd
      ID: 9831211
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 12:33
Twarpy, you have 3 placeholders
do you know who you want?
142Twarpy
      ID: 36820211
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 12:43
Yes, the Arizona Cards defense, Matt Stover (K), Odell Thurman (LB)
143mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 13:01
Done, glad you're back.
Problems do occur in real life
We understand that
please check you team for accuracy
144Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 13:44
So the only manager that needs to be replaced is our former commish, VP? We really need to have our managers set and start the 48 waiver clock today I'd think.
145Peter N.
      ID: 25814121
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 13:58
I have an error on my team. Josh Scobee is listed as an RB in AOL, but he's a kicker.
146mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:06
Got it, Pete

Looks like VP is our only MIA
147TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:29
Just an outsider looking in with some observations. This league was looking doomed early on, but several of you really stepped it up, especially mjd, to get this thing off the ground. Take a deep breath now. You survived the craziness of your draft and some of the people in the league might have just needed to take a step back and "unwind" from this draft. The season doesn't start until next Thursday. I suggest you run waivers on Tuesday and then let everyone be free agents after waivers. Those that need to make a few changes have until game day to make those changes.

If managers don't set their line-ups, then I suggest the commish set them up for them. If after week one, you have managers that have bailed on their team you can get replacements. I will volunteer to step in and manage one if you need help, but I think you will be okay. You obviously have some committed guys who have stuck with the league thus far and the rest of the season should be fun.
148Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:35
Well if we start waivers tonight and wait 48 hours that means they will run Monday evening/Tuesday morning. Then like TB said, we'd have two days of FA pickups. Thing is that VP hasn't been here for what three days or so and was skipped several times before that in the draft. Just think his rl is crazy and might not have time for us afterall. Just an observation. I'd hope he'd play since he obviously wanted to so bad he agreed to be the original commish, but things happen.
149TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:42
Just remember that if VP didn't get the initial work started this league probably wouldn't have happened. He has some frustration going on. He did a great job for a rookie handling some of the adversity and challenges of trying to be a new commish. You are already a great commish with a lot of experience Ref, and still have to deal with some challenges in an established league. Try to imagine this being your first league ever. Heck, I let Maddod/Jerrylewis be in the first league I ever commished and although he had some serious issues, it wasn't near the adversity of this draft. Kudos to all of you.
150mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:42
Looks like I need to make a ruling, here.

We will continue to search for 1 replacement mgr.

The 48 hour waver period will start at 11:59 TODAY
Please review my post 91 for how the process works,
but with a different start time.

If a replacement mgr is found before 11:59 tonight,
we're good to go. They pick 2 players for the
placeholders and then wavers start at 11:59.

If a replacement is found during the waver period,
their replacement players will be awarded to them,
superceding the waver process.

If a replacement mgr isn't found until after the
48 hour waver period, claims will be processed and
the new mgr will have to pick after all undrafted
or unclaimed players become free agents.

Time is pressing and we need to move on.

Now I'm leaving and will be back after 9 PM.
151mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 14:53
Note: wavers will begin at 11:59 PM whether we have
a replacement mgr or not.

Thanks to TB for his encouuragement.
152Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:31
Anyone else going to do the draft recap?
153TD
      Sustainer
      ID: 036331011
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:35
I will be doing a draft recap sometime this weekend.
154VP.
      ID: 42842214
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:42
Hey sorry I'm late...

Replacements: Vanderjagt, A. Thomas (LB - BAL), A. Chatman (WR - CIN)
155Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:45
Sweet! We're set with all 14 managers again.
156 judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 16:40
Welcome back VP. I was hoping you would "show up" again.

What is a draft "recap"?

Also why are everyone's messages suddenly going off of my
screen window so I have to scroll over to the right and then back
again. It hadn't happened before, but I am now scrolling 2+
clicks to read each sentence. Can anyone "fix" this? Thanks.
157Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 16:42
Judy there is a draft recap thread for us, look for AA draft recap.

I'm also at fault for the screen issue with the big draft grid I posted. I am going to have to edit all the charts I make to not only put them to the left, but to take up less room.
158 judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 16:54
Me again. Where do I look (www) for the draft recap?

Also, why am I doing it?
159Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 17:11
It's here in this same forum.
160 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 20:35
GOT IT. THANKS.

Will do this weekend.
161mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 00:33
VP, you only have 2 placeholders. I'll put the first
two players on your roster.

If you want Chatman, you'll have to make a waver claim or wait until he becomes a FA.

"How to" is in post 91.
162VP.
      ID: 228135
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 06:32
Is anyone else having a problem setting their lineups? It's telling me I have two too many bench players...I don't see extra players on my roster though.
163mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 11:46
No prob here. You roster has 24 players, just like everyone else
164VP.
      ID: 54819311
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 12:35
It looks to me like the league settings for the rosters are actually incorrect...you say you were able to set your lineup though, MJD?

This is what Guru's earlier post says:
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
8 bench
21 Total

Which isn't what our settings are set as. The most obvious discrepency is that we are allowing 9 bench rather than 8...I guess the roster size is also too large by two or something...I can't tell for sure since I no longer have commish access on AOL.

I guess maybe I made this mistake when I was setting the league out...not really sure how I got both numbers wrong, it's a little strange. Maybe the RIFC rules got changed at some point?
165Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 12:42
that must be lat year's setup

I know this year there are 3 IDP flex and 9 bench.
166Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 12:45
Accordint to post 193 in this thread,

193 Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 20:51 I believe these are the final rules. Hopefully, they are clear and correct:

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
3 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.

Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6 (excludes TDs on kick or punt returns)
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 defensive points allowed 7
7-13 defensive points allowed 4
14-20 defensive points allowed 1
21-27 defensive points allowed 0
28-34 defensive points allowed -1
35+ defensive points allowed -4
Defensive points allowed exclude TDs scored by the opposing special teams or the opposing defense (i.e., TDs on turnovers, kick/punt returns, or blocked kicks).

Points are assigned for yardage allowed according to the following table:
500+ yards allowed: 0 points
400-499 yards allowed: 1 point
300-399: 2
275-299: 3
250-274: 4
225-249: 5
200-224: 6
175-199: 7
150-174: 8
125-149: 9
under 125: 10


Indiv Defensive Players Points
(the following points apply only to DL, LB, and DB)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 3 (half sack=1.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3

Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.

In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.

Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage. After that, priorities will not be reset. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed (either via "free agent priority claim" or a waiver claim), the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list. Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

Starting at 1:00pm on Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status.

When a player is dropped from a roster, the player will go on waivers for 48 hours. At the end of the 48 hour period, if any team has placed a claim on the player, the team with the highest claiming priority will receive the player. If no claims are submitted, the player becomes a free agent at that time. If a player is dropped within 48 hours of his game freeze, he may not be claimed until the following week's free agent claiming process.

Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

The trade deadline is 11:30pm EST on November 10.

Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
167Ref
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      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 12:53
457 Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 17:07 No. For the first six weeks, priority rankings are reset each week, based on worst-to-first standings. After week 6, priorities do not reset weekly, but are carried forward from the previous week, adjusted for actual claims awarded.

At the beginning of the playoffs, priorities again reset once, this time in order of playoff seed (top seed has highest priority).

So, there is no after-effect of any preseason waiver claims.
168 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 14:59
Please fix the margins on the posts. I have to scroll way over to the
right to read each sentence and then back again.

Thanks.

169Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 15:15
I deleted the draft grid. I might try to work on it and repost if you want.
170mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 15:57
Repost it Ref, if you want, on this thread.
When I process claims, tomorrow night, I'll start a new one for regular season discussion.

Had a yahoo online draft at noon, today. Half asleep and picking eighth, I wound up with 2 RBs with the same bye weeks, as my first 2 picks. GRRRRRRR.
171GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 16:11
Another sticking my head in and saw a question Judy had in her post 135.

What we have seen in RIFC the first two years is that most managers go with the same starting lineup for both of their games.

That said, there have been cases where some managers have tried to work matchups with one team and stayed with their normal starters with the other depending on who they were playing.

Not sure about the interface for the AOL site, but do know for FanBall, that you really need to pay attention to ensure that you have set both games to the starters that you want.

I have caught myself a few times in the last two years with not having set game two starters to who I wanted.

Cliff
172Ref
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      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 17:10
Managers QB RB WR TE K DEF DL LB DB Managers
1. TD Carson Palmer (4.14) LaDainian Tomlinson (1.01) Torry Holt (2.14) L.J. Smith (6.14) Lawrence Tynes (23.01) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (13.01) Osi Umenyiora (11.01) Mike Peterson (8.14) Michael Lewis (10.14) 1. TD
Steve McNair (16.14) Jamal Lewis (3.01) Javon Walker (5.01) Vernon Davis (18.14) Darren Howard (21.01) London Fletcher (9.01) Antoine Winfield (19.01)
Anthony Wright (24.14) Mike Anderson (12.14) Eddie Kennison (7.01)     Kawika Mitchell (17.01)  
  Brandon Jacobs (14.14) Ernest Wilford (15.01)     Morlon Greenwood (20.14)  
  Michael Turner (22.14)          
2. Rob Thayer Jake Delhomme (4.13) Shaun Alexander (1.02) Marvin Harrison (2.13) Ben Watson (8.13) Adam Vinatieri (9.02) Carolina Panthers (6.13) Julius Peppers (11.02) Ray Lewis (7.02) Rodney Harrison (14.13) 2. Rob Thayer
Ben Roethlisberger (12.13) DeShaun Foster (3.02) Joe Jurevicius (10.13) Atlanta Falcons (21.02) Ian Gold (18.13) Bob Sanders (16.13)
Joe Berger (22.13) Deuce McAllister (5.02) Antwaan Randle El (13.02)      
Jonathan Ogden (23.02) Michael Bennett (17.02) Samie Parker (15.02)      
Reggie Wells (24.13)   Bobby Engram (19.02)      
    Bryant Johnson (20.13)      
3. boikin Kurt Warner (10.12) Larry Johnson (1.03) Terrell Owens (2.12) Randy McMichael (7.03)   Baltimore Ravens (8.12) Chike Okeafor (24.12) Demorrio Williams (13.03) Sean Taylor (14.12) 3. boikin
Drew Brees (11.03) Mike Bell (4.12) Randy Moss (3.03) Derek Smith (15.03) Nate Clements (17.03)
Billy Volek (21.03) Ahman Green (6.12) Darrell Jackson (5.03) Jeff Ulbrich (16.12) Kerry Rhodes (18.12)
Alex Smith (23.03) Sam Gado (12.12) Drew Bennett (9.03) James Darling (19.03)  
  Antowain Smith (20.12)   Dashon Polk (22.12)  
4. astade Daunte Culpepper (6.11) Tiki Barber (1.04) Anquan Boldin (3.04) Jeremy Shockey (4.11) John Kasay (21.04) Indianapolis Colts (12.11) Adewale Ogunleye (16.11) Brian Urlacher (8.11) Champ Bailey (15.04) 4. astade
Drew Bledsoe (13.04) Reuben Droughns (2.11) Joe Horn (5.04) Madieu Williams (17.04) Lofa Tatupu (9.04) Dunta Robinson (20.11)
  LenDale White (7.04) Donte' Stallworth (10.11)   LaVar Arrington (23.04)  
  Ryan Moats (14.11) Michael Clayton (11.04)   Pisa Tinoisamoa (24.11)  
    Justin McCareins (18.11)      
    Marty Booker (19.04)      
    Santonio Holmes (22.11)      
5. VP. Donovan McNabb (6.10) Rudi Johnson (1.05) Steve Smith (2.10) Kellen Winslow (8.10)   Pittsburgh Steelers (10.10) Charles Grant (13.05) Clark Haggans (14.10) Ed Reed (9.05) 5. VP.
Brad Johnson (17.05) Cedric Benson (4.10) Hines Ward (3.05) Roderick Coleman (19.05) David Pollack (15.05) Erik Coleman (11.05)
Mike Flynn (23.05) Tatum Bell (5.05) Deion Branch (7.05)   Marcus Washington (16.10)  
Casey Rabach (24.10) Nick Goings (20.10) Cedrick Wilson (12.10)   Tony Hargrove (18.10)  
  B.J. Sams (22.10) Peter Warrick (21.05)      
6. Twarpy Jon Kitna (18.09) Edgerrin James (1.06) Chad Johnson (2.09) Jermaine Wiggins (20.09) Jay Feely (12.09) New York Giants (7.06) Michael Strahan (8.09) Keith Brooking (10.09) Adrian Wilson (9.06) 6. Twarpy
Philip Rivers (19.06) Corey Dillon (3.06) Lee Evans (5.06) Alex Smith (21.06) Bert Berry (17.06) Tedy Bruschi (14.09) Mike Brown (15.06)
Keydrick Vincent (22.09) Joseph Addai (4.09) Matt Jones (6.09)     Dan Morgan (16.09)  
Justin Hartwig (23.06) Jerious Norwood (13.06) Roddy White (11.06)        
Derrick Dockery (24.09)            
7. ref Eli Manning (4.08) Ronnie Brown (1.07) T.J. Houshmandzadeh (5.07) Antonio Gates (3.07) Shayne Graham (20.08) Dallas Cowboys (21.07) Jason Taylor (11.07) Zach Thomas (8.08) Gibril Wilson (12.08) 7. ref
Byron Leftwich (14.08) Chester Taylor (2.08) Rod Smith (6.08) Detroit Lions (22.08) Nick Barnett (9.07) Darrent Williams (13.07)
  Wali Lundy (15.07) Laveranues Coles (7.07)   Andra Davis (10.08)  
  Travis Henry (18.08) Braylon Edwards (16.08)   Gerald Hayes (19.07)  
  Ciatrick Fason (23.07) Brandon Lloyd (17.07)      
    Travis Taylor (24.08)      
8. twilson Jake Plummer (6.07) LaMont Jordan (1.08) Larry Fitzgerald (2.07) Chris Cooley (5.08) Josh Brown (22.07) Washington Redskins (16.07) Simeon Rice (19.08) Keith Bulluck (8.07) Ronde Barber (10.07) 8. twilson
David Carr (18.07) Thomas Jones (4.07) Reggie Wayne (3.08) Jeff Reed (23.08) Lance Briggs (9.08) Adam Archuleta (15.08)
  Laurence Maroney (7.08) Nate Burleson (11.08)   Gary Brackett (12.07)  
  Chris Perry (14.07) David Givens (13.08)   Karlos Dansby (17.08)  
    Chad Jackson (20.07)   Derrick Johnson (24.07)  
    Michael Jenkins (21.08)      
9. PeterN Michael Vick (6.06) Domanick Davis (1.09) Roy Williams (3.09) Jason Witten (4.06) Josh Scobee (20.06) Seattle Seahawks (12.06)   John Abraham (11.09) Roy Williams (9.09) 9. PeterN
Kevin Jones (2.06) Keyshawn Johnson (7.09) Marcedes Lewis (22.06) San Diego Chargers (21.09) Cato June (13.09) Troy Polamalu (10.06)
Fred Taylor (5.09) Antonio Bryant (8.06)     Julian Peterson (14.06) Takeo Spikes (15.09)
  Doug Gabriel (18.06)     AJ Hawk (16.06)  
  Reggie Williams (19.09)     Ernie Sims (17.09)  
  Sinorice Moss (23.09)     DeMarcus Ware (24.06)  
10. judy Tom Brady (3.10) Carnell Williams (1.10) Reggie Brown (5.10) Todd Heap (4.05) David Akers (14.05) Philadelphia Eagles (9.10) Dwight Freeney (11.10) Joey Porter (15.10) Brian Dawkins (8.05) 10. judy
J.P. Losman (19.10) Reggie Bush (2.05) Keenan McCardell (6.05) Jevon Kearse (12.05) Channing Crowder (16.05) Michael Boulware (13.10)
  T.J. Duckett (7.10) Brandon Stokley (10.05) Mario Williams (17.10) Mike Vrabel (22.05) Sheldon Brown (23.10)
  Correll Buckhalter (21.10) Josh Reed (18.05)     DeAngelo Hall (24.05)
    Brandon Marshall (20.05)      
11. bjclinton0 Trent Green (9.11) Steven Jackson (1.11) Chris Chambers (3.11) Alge Crumpler (5.11) Neil Rackers (20.04) Chicago Bears (6.04) Robert Mathis (17.11) Shelton Quarles (14.04) Charles Tillman (10.04) 11. bjclinton0
Brett Favre (13.11) Willie Parker (2.04) Andre Johnson (4.04) Kirk Morrison (16.04) Pacman Jones (11.11)
  Kevan Barlow (7.11) Dante' Hall (8.04) DeMeco Ryans (19.11) Justin Miller (21.11)
  Vernand Morency (15.11) Kevin Curtis (12.04)    
  Verron Haynes (22.04) Eric Parker (18.04)    
  Tony Fisher (23.11)      
  Duce Staley (24.04)      
12. muhahos2006 Marc Bulger (6.03) Willis McGahee (1.12) Plaxico Burress (3.12) Heath Miller (9.12)   Jacksonville Jaguars (11.12) Aaron Schobel (15.12) Jonathan Vilma (7.12) Terrence McGee (8.03) 12. muhahos2006
Aaron Brooks (13.12) Warrick Dunn (2.03) Santana Moss (4.03) Shawne Merriman (12.03) Michael Huff (19.12)
Matt Leinart (20.03) Maurice Jones-Drew (17.12) Derrick Mason (5.12) Terrell Suggs (14.03)  
Shawn Lynch (22.03) LaBrandon Toefield (18.03) Wes Welker (10.03) Lemar Marshall (16.03)  
James Mungro (23.12)   Greg Jennings (21.12)    
Jon Jansen (24.03)        
13. greybear Peyton Manning (1.13) Brian Westbrook (2.02) Donald Driver (4.02) Ben Troupe (14.02) Nate Kaeding (24.02) Miami Dolphins (15.13) Kyle Vanden Bosch (21.13) Donnie Edwards (7.13) Darren Sharper (20.02) 13. greybear
Mark Brunell (23.13) Frank Gore (3.13) Muhsin Muhammad (8.02) Dallas Clark (17.13) Cincinnati Bengals (19.13) Antonio Pierce (9.13)
  Dominic Rhodes (5.13) Terry Glenn (10.02)     Jeremiah Trotter (12.02)
  Chris Brown (6.02) Isaac Bruce (11.13)     Will Witherspoon (13.13)
  Mewelde Moore (18.02) Eric Moulds (16.02)     Brian Simmons (22.02)
14. mjd33333 Matt Hasselbeck (3.14) Clinton Portis (1.14) Joey Galloway (5.14) Tony Gonzalez (4.01) Jason Elam (19.14) New England Patriots (14.01) Derrick Burgess (17.14) Derrick Brooks (11.14) Chris Gamble (15.14) 14. mjd33333
Chris Simms (13.14) Julius Jones (2.01) Mark Clayton (8.01) James Farrior (12.01) Dre' Bly (21.14)
  DeAngelo Williams (6.01) Troy Williamson (10.01) Edgerton Hartwell (20.01) Terence Newman (24.01)
  Marion Barber (7.14) Chris Henry (16.01) Monty Beisel (23.14)  
  Greg Jones (9.14)      
  Derrick Blaylock (18.01)      
  Justin Griffith (22.01)      
Managers QB RB WR TE K DEF DL LB DB Managers
Number Selected 42 66 72 18 12 18 19 56 33 Number Selected
173 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 21:59
ALERT:
Poor Ben R -- he had his appendix out today. Week to week
recovery -- my guess is 3 weeks minimum. If you are in a FB pool,
time to take Miami.

Also, yet another question. Since we are doing doubleheaders, I
have 4 RB that I REALLY like, so I put two in one game (a runner
and a goalliner), and two in the other game (runner and goalliner).
Does that seem dumb to anyone?
174 judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 22:01
Also, can we start a new thread (Discussion #3) now that the draft
and all that is over? Time for "in season" communications!
175mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 22:27
Ask and you shall recieve

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