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Posted by: Trip - Leader [13961611] Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 08:51
Draft Results

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1 Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 09:13 		Draft recap thread has been created here.

Again, a reminder. Transactions are now locked for another 48 hours. If you would like to make a waiver claim, shoot me an e-mail.
2Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:02 		What is the waiver claim deadline, specifically?
3Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:31 		You have until midnite tonight to e-mail me your requests.

I will open up all players tomorrow AM.
4Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 07:50 		Kerry Collins awarded to Toral
Jay Feely awarded to Smith32
LaBrandon Toefield awarded to StL
Bobby Wade awarded to Taxman

All players are now available.
5holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 01, 2006, 17:27 		toral you scumbag. :)

anyone wanna trade for volek? I didn't think so.

I still plan to do my draft recap. i'll try to get it done this weekend. wouldn't mind seeing some more of em. they're always interesting to look back on when the season is done.
6Tree
      ID: 4983726
      Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 08:04 		my move is finally settling down.

did the majority of it (furniture, etc etc) last friday, then every night since then took a few car loads from the old place to the new blace (only 6 blocks away).

today i'm hoping to unpack and get things into order, tomorrow, grab the last remnents from the old place, and on monday, finally concentrate on football, which means catching up on various write ups...
7Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 14:14 		Spent a couple of days laid out with a stomach virus and now have company for the weekend so it may be a couple of days before I get time to finish my rationales and re cap,.
8Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 20:52 		e-mail sent Da Bomb.
9Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Sep 06, 2006, 01:57 		Got it and I'm mulling it over. If you want, send me your regular e-mail address so we can communicate better.
10Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Wed, Sep 06, 2006, 11:37 		Da Bomb,

The gmail account is okay. I'll keep an eye on it, as I'm aware that something might come through.
11Letter_J
      ID: 47324128
      Wed, Sep 06, 2006, 22:08 		First trade, accepted among the trade participants, and looking for league approval is:

ShortBus Stalwarts trades Laurence Maroney and Shelton Quarles to Da Bomb for Keith Bulluck.
12Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 09:53 		Just a heads up...I am unable to formally accept the trade at AOL, as the system will not allow me to. It seems that the system will not allow Da Bomb to roster more than 24 players, even if for a short period of time.
13Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 11:15 		Have him repropose, but include the player he wants to drop in the deal.
14Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 11:18 		I dropped a player, so deal should be able to be accepted now.
15Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 12:16 		From AOL:

"Trades

The proposed trade has been approved and is now pending commissioner approval."
16Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 12:48 		I have no doubt that this trade will not be protested, but it will still need to wait the 24 hours before I can process.

From the rules:


After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an e-mail to the commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

Since none of these players are involved in the early game, I will process the trade tomorrow (assuming no protests).
17Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 13:39 		before i vote on this trade, i'd like to hear some rationale behind it.

IDPs are a dime a dozen - why do you trade a running back that is a potential starter (and a danged good one at that) *and* an IDP, for a single IDP (even if he is a "star" at his position), when IDPs are, by and large, a dime a dozen.

i am very confused why the owner giving up the RB would do this trade. it makes no sense to me.
20Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:16 		IDPs are a dime a dozen

That's pretty much personal preference. Many managers in the RIFC leagues value star IDPs fairly highly, including me as well as what Doug did in the main RIFC. Bulluck was taken before Maroney (and sometimes well before) in 3 out of the 4 RIFC leagues, where the one league Maroney went before Bulluck was in AA. I did this trade purely for handcuff reasons, and say if I was offered a DeAngelo Williams or Marion Barber instead, I wouldn't consider it.
21Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:16 		The two deleted posts are mine due to editing.
22Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:56 		i dont think where someone is taken in a draft is relevant once the draft ends.

a back up RB who is second in the depth chart to an aging star is, to me, inherently more valuable than any IDP - heck, a RB like that is more valuable than half the starting QBs in football.
23Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:57 		and for the record, it's not the person receiving Maroney that i'm questioning, but the person giving him up.

i'm just struggling with the logic in this deal, from that person's perspective.
24Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:45 		before i vote on this trade, i'd like to hear some rationale behind it.

Okay.

First, I'm the one that proposed this trade. Before making the offer, I looked long and hard at my roster and I believed (and still do) that giving up my fourth RB for a top 5 LB is good value. I do not like the idea of giving up Maroney, but I am convinced I have a better team with Bulluck than Maroney as my #4 RB.
25Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:49 		Oh...and I ran it by a participant in the RIFC and he said he would do the trade in a heartbeat (from my end). I don't think I'm getting hosed by any means.
26Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:54 		By my count, I'm giving up the 38th RB taken and the 23rd LB taken for the 3rd LB taken. Seems like decent value to me.
27Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 15:57 		...so I upgrade bigtime at LB and lose an extra player, thus enabling me to fill a hole at DL without releasing anyone else on my roster.
28StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 16:05 		Holt, did you get my email I sent? Think it was about a week ago, so I was just wondering if you got it or not. I sent it to the address listed on the site.
29Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 16:27 		Tree, I know you were not questioning me. I was just pointing out that I think your logic is based on a varying opinion, and I think of an opinion that may be different than most others.

I think where players are taken in the draft does show something now, as the season hasn't started yet. Once the season starts, then yes, draft positions can be mostly thrown out, but it's not like anything major has happened to each of them to change their values. So, according to the drafts, the owners thought for the most part that Bulluck has more value than Maroney.
30holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 01:24 		stlcards, e-mail sent.

what a night. after that Miller "TD" I was yelling "KICK IT KICK IT!" at Jeff Reed. pretty sure it would have been overturn if they had reviewed it.
31Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 02:06 		errr I had Welker on the bench. Just wasn't sure about his return situation or his place in the WR rotation. But now I know!
32holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 03:21 		lol. i watched the game at fugazi's house. we were laughing about the fact that you had welker benched. but then porter returned that int for a TD and also got a sack and fugazi had him sitting on the bench. he didn't think that was so funny.
33FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 18:35 		I felt shame.
34FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 18:49 		this is holt here at fugazi's house.
trip, if memory serves, I don't think team defenses are supposed to get points from KO and punt returns now. might want to check that out. right now my Bears defense is being credited 6 pts for a punt return TD.
35Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 19:59 		It was my understanding that you don't get points for KR / PR yardage, but that you do get points if they score TDs. I could be wrong though.

My opponent in both my $$ leagues had the Bears DST today - yikes!
36holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 00:30 		copy/paste from the rules Guru posted:

Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6 (excludes TDs on kick or punt returns)
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 defensive points allowed 7
7-13 defensive points allowed 4
14-20 defensive points allowed 1
21-27 defensive points allowed 0
28-34 defensive points allowed -1
35+ defensive points allowed -4
Defensive points allowed exclude TDs scored by the opposing special teams or the opposing defense (i.e., TDs on turnovers, kick/punt returns, or blocked kicks).

Points are assigned for yardage allowed according to the following table:
500+ yards allowed: 0 points
400-499 yards allowed: 1 point
300-399: 2
275-299: 3
250-274: 4
225-249: 5
200-224: 6
175-199: 7
150-174: 8
125-149: 9
under 125: 10
38Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 08:27 		Scoring has been corrected.
39holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 02:00 		argh.

I can't believe I ended up having to pull for the Raiders offense. incredible. how can an NFL offense be that bad?
40Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 09:49 		How depressing. Despite my top 2 receivers being out I came within 0.2 points of going 2-0. I guessed wrong on the Portis/Betts situation and left Jamal Lewis on the bench. Aaaaaargh.

Toral
41Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 10:21
Views » Season » Playoffs » YTD Points

RIBC AAA Division
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 2 0 0 1.000 316.44 158.22 236.66 W2 316.44
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 2 0 0 1.000 294.48 147.24 246.82 W2 294.48
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 2 0 0 1.000 271.76 135.88 229.68 W2 271.76
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 2 0 0 1.000 247.84 123.92 229.68 W2 247.84
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 2 0 0 1.000 201.84 100.92 194.86 W2 201.84
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 1 1 0 0.500 294.08 147.04 269.34 W1 294.08
bmd beastiemikd 1 1 0 0.500 286.32 143.16 299.02 L1 286.32
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 1 1 0 0.500 279.10 139.55 236.66 W1 279.10
Slowhand Slowhandmt 1 1 0 0.500 244.20 122.10 242.12 L1 244.20
Smith32 Crowler2002 0 2 0 0.000 246.08 123.04 259.80 L2 246.08
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 0 2 0 0.000 213.28 106.64 259.80 L2 213.28
Stl Cards Kes2golf 0 2 0 0.000 199.56 99.78 248.16 L2 199.56
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 0 2 0 0.000 190.16 95.08 223.02 L2 190.16
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 0 2 0 0.000 187.00 93.50 296.52 L2 187.00
Total
 14 14 0 0.500 3472.14 124.01 3472.14    

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42Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 10:22 		That hurt to post.
43Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 10:29 		This is better:

RIBC - Post ASB Standings
44holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 16:08 		haha! and this is even better than that:

RIBC Season Standings

Good game Toral. Could have gone either way. doesn't get much closer than 147.24-147.04.
45Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 16:38 		Not a good game for me when I sat Portis and Lewis. Wasted big performances by San Diego D and Fletcher-Baker. Looks like a "coach's loss". Thanx anyway though.

San Diego D doesn't look like such a bad pick, if they played Oakland each week.

Toral
46Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:37 		Trip, I believe the waiver order needs to be corrected.
47StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 11:47 		I verified our scoring vs the top 200 that Guru posted and the scores for players are the same as ours.
48holt
      ID: 22726517
      Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 03:49 		cool. i started to check it our earlier but got side-tracked.
49Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 14:27 		Trip, not sure if you got my e-mail re: waiver order, but I don't think the waiver order was updated after the claim period. I wasn't effected, but I guess it's possible others could have been.
50Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 20:35 		Question: Do team defenses get credit for kick/punt return yards?
51Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 08:59 		Answer: No

Thank you Hines Ward for sucking! I win a game!
52Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 09:03
RIBC AAA Division
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 4 0 0 1.000 603.28 150.82 482.62 W4 286.84
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 3 1 0 0.750 587.86 146.97 453.66 W3 308.76
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 3 1 0 0.750 573.16 143.29 560.32 L1 278.68
bmd beastiemikd 3 1 0 0.750 566.32 141.58 564.38 W2 280.00
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 3 1 0 0.750 511.44 127.86 502.90 W1 263.60
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 3 1 0 0.750 477.68 119.42 451.10 W1 275.84
Smith32 Crowler2002 2 2 0 0.500 613.48 153.37 507.10 W2 367.40
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 2 2 0 0.500 531.36 132.84 500.82 L2 259.60
Stl Cards Kes2golf 2 2 0 0.500 495.60 123.90 458.96 W2 296.04
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 1 3 0 0.250 510.00 127.50 601.06 L2 215.92
Slowhand Slowhandmt 1 3 0 0.250 476.68 119.17 507.48 L3 232.48
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 1 3 0 0.250 441.88 110.47 552.76 L1 254.88
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 0 4 0 0.000 441.60 110.40 557.60 L4 228.32
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 0 4 0 0.000 395.84 98.96 525.42 L4 205.68
Total
 28 28 0 0.500 7226.18 129.04 7226.18    
53Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 09:06 		That is a little better. Not sure if those are final yet. If not, I will repost later. Claim and waiver order have been reset.
54Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 09:20 		Looking over the scores, looks like fugazi gets burnt by Roethlisburger's last INT, costing him a tie.
55holt
      ID: 59848172
      Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 17:07 		i can't believe I won my game against fugazi. i was only up 11 pts heading into monday night's game. he had Steeler D, Polamalu, Porter, and Roethljhlkadh going, while I had H.Miller and Farrior going. I really thought i had no prayer. somehow I end up winning by almost 10 points.

it also looked like he had a sure win in his other game but the steelers screwed him pretty hard.

looks like I have another tough week ahead. DaBomb and RIFC AAA champ (whose team is that?).
56holt
      ID: 59848172
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 17:56 		looks like fugazi and rifc-champ end up with tie.
57Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 09:23
RIBC AAA Division
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 4 0 0 1.000 603.28 150.82 482.62 W4 286.84
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 3 1 0 0.750 587.86 146.97 453.66 W3 308.76
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 3 1 0 0.750 575.16 143.79 562.32 L1 280.68
bmd beastiemikd 3 1 0 0.750 566.32 141.58 564.38 W2 280.00
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 3 1 0 0.750 477.68 119.42 452.10 W1 275.84
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 2 1 1 0.625 535.36 133.84 501.82 T1 263.60
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 2 1 1 0.625 511.44 127.86 504.90 T1 263.60
Smith32 Crowler2002 2 2 0 0.500 613.48 153.37 508.10 W2 367.40
Stl Cards Kes2golf 2 2 0 0.500 495.60 123.90 458.96 W2 296.04
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 1 3 0 0.250 510.00 127.50 601.06 L2 215.92
Slowhand Slowhandmt 1 3 0 0.250 478.68 119.67 507.48 L3 234.48
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 1 3 0 0.250 441.88 110.47 553.76 L1 254.88
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 0 4 0 0.000 441.60 110.40 557.60 L4 228.32
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 0 4 0 0.000 395.84 98.96 525.42 L4 205.68
Total
 27 27 2 0.500 7234.18 129.18 7234.18    
58Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 09:25 		Revised standings. I apologize to anyone affected, but waivers were based on the first posted standings.

Does anyone know when the scores were adjusted?
59Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 10:20 		good lord, how does my team suck so badly?
60Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 00:26 		Yeah,Tree...my team doesn't suck near as bad as your's ;-)
61beastiemiked
      ID: 36428317
      Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 00:34 		No LT this week. Free lunch for anyone that plays me this week.
62Smith32
      ID: 355452918
      Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 20:35 		Shoot - I figured Odell Thurman would fly under the radar until next week so I could get him back. This league is tough.
63JTSERB
      ID: 16611522
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 00:34 		Guh.. benched Parker in favor of Gore this week. Would have been 2-0 now have to settle for 1-1 :(
64holt
      ID: 59848172
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 01:02 		if you think you made a bad decision, take a look at tree's bench:

WR Keyshawn Johnson 22.10
WR Braylon Edwards 17.60
WR Chris Henry 18.90

and his starters:
WR Chris Chambers 7.80
WR Lee Evans 10.70
WR Ernest Wilford 3.20

65holt
      ID: 59848172
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 01:10 		3 weeks in the books and my team has scored a grand total of 1 TD (not including eli's passing td's). I'm still getting ok points thankfully, but this is getting really frustrating. I WANT SOME TD'S!
66Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 12:51 		if you think you made a bad decision, take a look at tree's bench:

WR Keyshawn Johnson 22.10
WR Braylon Edwards 17.60
WR Chris Henry 18.90

and his starters:
WR Chris Chambers 7.80
WR Lee Evans 10.70
WR Ernest Wilford 3.20

yea, i was really hoping no one would remind me.

ugh. maybe i can finish 0-6 after this week.
67Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 14:09 		How can it be expected of me to win when Baltimore doesn't score 30+ points for me every week?
68holt
      ID: 59848172
      Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 14:50 		LOL - sorry tree. it was one of those factoids that I had to share. at least you have guys on your bench who actually score points.
69FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 00:02 		i tried to offer a trade but this message came up.



Your league rules do not allow for owners to make regular season trades.
Please contact your commissioner for this type of transaction.
70FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 00:18 		looks like im the winner of the toilet bowl. lol
71Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 09:02 		I have trading set up right now.
73Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 11:47
RIBC AAA Division
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 5 1 0 0.833 897.22 149.54 649.84 W5 309.36
Smith32 Crowler2002 4 2 0 0.667 887.68 147.95 760.54 W4 274.20
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 4 2 0 0.667 832.16 138.69 817.12 W1 257.00
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 4 2 0 0.667 820.28 136.71 756.00 L2 217.00
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 4 2 0 0.667 731.64 121.94 696.52 L1 253.96
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 3 2 1 0.583 804.04 134.01 786.34 L1 292.60
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 3 2 1 0.583 720.60 120.10 743.84 W1 185.24
bmd beastiemikd 3 3 0 0.500 834.00 139.00 862.20 L2 267.68
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 3 3 0 0.500 815.88 135.98 881.20 W2 305.88
Slowhand Slowhandmt 3 3 0 0.500 768.44 128.07 749.82 W2 289.76
Stl Cards Kes2golf 3 3 0 0.500 702.72 117.12 700.98 L1 207.12
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 1 5 0 0.167 646.76 107.79 769.84 W1 250.92
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 1 5 0 0.167 616.56 102.76 749.94 L3 174.68
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 0 6 0 0.000 656.24 109.37 810.04 L6 214.64
Total
 41 41 2 0.500 10734.22 127.79 10734.22    
74Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 14:18 		Trip - claim order :)
75Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 14:44 		YES! out of the cellar!

of course, losing Shaun Alexander isn't going to win me any games.
76Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 15:12 		jtserb - your future RIFC Champ - sent you a trade offer, but your email was bounced back.

looking for a decent RB. i've got some WRs.
77holt
      ID: 10830261
      Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 01:25 		trip, just reminding that claims priority still needs to be updated.
78Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 08:59 		Priorities have been updated. I wanted to wait to make sure scores did not change. (They didn't)
80FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 16:41 		i was wondering how long do trades normally take to process?
81Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 17:04 		I have processed the trade. Sorry for the delay.
82FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 17:51 		no problem i was just curious.
83JTSERB
      ID: 1872816
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 18:38 		I believe I changed my email address... It is jtserb@netzero.com

shoot my an email on what your thinking
84Tree
      ID: 548102815
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 19:19 		well change it on the site! LOL
85Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 14:49 		Tree,

Trade offer sent.
86Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 14:51 		FUGAZI,

Trade offer sent.
87Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 10:04 		For those who do not visit the AOL site daily, Tree and I have agreed to the following trade and are awaiting the approval of our leaguemates and commish:

Tree's Cage of Death sends Braylon Edwards, WR, CLE to the ShortBus Stalwarts for Maurice Morris and Chad Jackson.
88Tree
      ID: 57855309
      Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 11:57 		commish - could you push this through? i'm out most of this evening, and then tomorrow i have to be at the airport by 7 am and won't have computer access until probably after 2 pm...
89holt
      ID: 10830261
      Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 03:46 		trip, heads up:
tree only has 2 WR's set to start in his lineup now. you have to have a complete roster to score any points. he must have left edwards in the starting wr slot, which seems strange since this trade was gonna go through.
90FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 01:13 		DAY OF THE HILLBILYS!!!! is that some kind of record. thats some score bro! congrats!!
91holt
      ID: 10830261
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 06:32 		thanks!
it was a big festival this weekend. they all brought their banjos!
92Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 09:28 		Congrats Holt, I thought I would be the highest scorer this week.

Nice job in RIBC as well.
93 mark signaigo
      ID: 4495629
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 11:56 		Not to appear an idiot, but what does PA and PF stand for in the standings? thanx.
94Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 12:39 		PA = Points Against
PF = Points For

I am guessing LP stands for Last Points, the total points scored in the most recent games.
95Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 10:38
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 6 2 0 0.750 1242.72 155.34 1036.38 W3 410.56
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 6 2 0 0.750 1116.00 139.50 1031.58 W2 295.72
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 5 3 0 0.625 1155.46 144.43 1002.98 L2 258.24
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 5 3 0 0.625 1024.04 128.01 985.80 L1 292.40
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 4 3 1 0.563 1014.88 126.86 1004.10 L1 210.84
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 4 3 1 0.563 1013.52 126.69 1028.48 W1 292.92
bmd beastiemikd 4 4 0 0.500 1092.24 136.53 1110.22 W1 258.24
Smith32 Crowler2002 4 4 0 0.500 1084.68 135.59 1039.92 L2 197.00
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 4 4 0 0.500 1077.80 134.73 1146.22 W1 261.92
Stl Cards Kes2golf 4 4 0 0.500 976.28 122.04 945.94 L1 273.56
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 3 5 0 0.375 933.20 116.65 1014.96 W2 316.64
Slowhand Slowhandmt 3 5 0 0.375 948.72 118.59 1060.52 L2 180.28
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 2 6 0 0.250 941.44 117.68 1039.16 W2 285.20
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 1 7 0 0.125 884.40 110.55 1059.12 L2 237.64
Total
 55 55 2 0.500 14505.38 129.51 14505.38    
96Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 11:42 		Claim order has been updated. If anyone notices a change in the standings, shoot me an e-mail.
97Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 19:39 		This seems odd. I'm seeing the claim order only having 13 teams, with The Trappers not being there.
98Tree
      ID: 23922317
      Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 20:13 		i think the number one claim should be that my team is terrible.
99holt
      ID: 10830261
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 05:33 		LOL!
100Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 18:28 		Fugazi...got your trade offer ; I'll get back to you late tonight or early tomorrow.
101Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 09:10 		JTSERB,

Trade offer sent. I sent an e-mail as well to jtserb@netzero.com.
102StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 14:54 		Fugazi - got your trade offer and accepted it. I have already dropped a player so we just need for Trip to approve it.
103Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 15:07 		StLCards gets Aaron Schobel, DL, BUF & AJ Hawk, LB, GB from Fugazi for Justin Smith, DL, CIN.

I will process tomorrow AM if there are no objections.
104Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 15:17 		that's another one of those trades that makes me scratch my head...
105Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 15:37
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 17.05 9.16 11.25 4.75 9.75 13.00 8.02 144.75
bmd 25.63 14.39 8.23 4.70 5.50 7.00 6.77 136.91
Da Bomb Squad 12.22 12.83 6.83 3.98 5.25 24.50 7.90 139.50
Holt's Hillbilly Army 16.30 12.63 11.40 5.50 9.75 19.25 7.51 155.34
Slowhand 11.84 10.23 4.59 7.10 9.25 7.00 8.20 118.59
Smith32 14.94 9.21 8.42 8.35 9.25 10.75 8.10 135.59
Stl Cards 10.33 9.94 8.73 5.65 10.50 8.00 6.92 122.04
Sunday Trippers 19.70 10.56 6.96 2.83 4.25 12.50 5.90 116.65
Texas Taxes 9.23 11.43 6.82 5.60 9.25 16.75 7.31 128.01
The fighting Jed Clampetts 14.83 10.79 8.21 2.28 6.75 14.75 5.47 117.64
THE TRAPPERS 7.51 9.24 11.01 6.80 8.75 13.25 6.48 126.67
Toral Wheatfarmers 13.45 10.19 8.48 2.49 6.75 19.00 7.88 134.73
Tree's Cage of Death 14.49 9.89 5.89 2.70 10.16 9.75 6.00 110.55
Your Future RIFC AAA 13.16 14.29 7.68 8.48 9.50 9.75 5.73 126.86
Average 14.33 11.05 8.18 5.08 8.19 13.23 7.01 129.56
 
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 2.71 -1.89 3.07 -0.33 1.56 -0.23 1.01 15.19
bmd 11.30 3.33 0.05 -0.38 -2.69 -6.23 -0.24 7.35
Da Bomb Squad -2.12 1.77 -1.35 -1.11 -2.94 11.27 0.89 9.94
Holt's Hillbilly Army 1.97 1.58 3.22 0.42 1.56 6.02 0.50 25.78
Slowhand -2.49 -0.83 -3.59 2.02 1.06 -6.23 1.18 -10.97
Smith32 0.60 -1.84 0.24 3.27 1.06 -2.48 1.09 6.03
Stl Cards -4.00 -1.11 0.55 0.57 2.31 -5.23 -0.10 -7.52
Sunday Trippers 5.36 -0.49 -1.22 -2.26 -3.94 -0.73 -1.12 -12.91
Texas Taxes -5.10 0.37 -1.36 0.52 1.06 3.52 0.30 -1.55
The fighting Jed Clampetts 0.49 -0.26 0.03 -2.81 -1.44 1.52 -1.54 -11.92
THE TRAPPERS -6.83 -1.82 2.84 1.72 0.56 0.02 -0.54 -2.89
Toral Wheatfarmers -0.89 -0.87 0.30 -2.60 -1.44 5.77 0.86 5.17
Tree's Cage of Death 0.16 -1.17 -2.29 -2.38 1.97 -3.48 -1.01 -19.01
Your Future RIFC AAA -1.17 3.23 -0.50 3.39 1.31 -3.48 -1.28 -2.70
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
106Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 15:42 		If Jtserb and bmd didn't blow the curve for running backs, I would be doing alright here. I've also demonstrated that I can't select a PK worth a crap. I expect my receivers to pick return towards the league average.

Also of note, if bmd had a league average defense and kicker he would be rocking right now.
107Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 15:48 		Regarding the trade, I am wondering what Fugazi was thinking but I don't think it is protestable.
109Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 16:21 		What's wrong with it? Fugazi had 6 LBs, and Hawk was his least productive one, and he traded him and Schobel who's been awful for who has been the 4th highest scoring DL so far.
110holt
      ID: 10830261
      Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 18:27 		he was probably close to cutting schobel (10.5 pts so far?), and hawk is ok but fugazi has a bunch of IDP's. smith has never been much before but he's produced so far. if someone had offered him something better he probably would have taken it.
111Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 09:56 		Trip,

Sent an e-mail to your midsouth account.
113Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 10:30 		And concerning the trade, I do not think it is protestable either. I believe that FUGAZI will regret the trade though when Schobel starts piling up the stats in stopping the run once Spikes is back and healthy and playing WLB. It seems that teams have run away from that side of the line since Spikes went out.
114Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 10:34 		Let's let this weekend play out before we discuss. The trade wouldn't go through until after lineups are due anyways. I will say that your LBs interest me more than your WRs.
115FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 17:27 		After four weeks of play two things became clear. spikes is allways hurt and schobel is not getting tackles. as for hawk he just made me mad last week missing tackle after tackle.
116holt
      ID: 10830261
      Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 17:55 		yeah, spikes. i still haven't cut him. he has to get healthy some time doesn't he? maybe not. he's on the table btw, if anyone is interested.
117Tree
      ID: 28924919
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 00:00 		well, this was a crazy week.
118holt
      ID: 10830261
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 02:56 		seemed like the scoring was down this week. thought I had an easy victory vs. trip going into mon night but man, al wilson sure made it close with that 17 pt performance or whatever it was.
119Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 10:01
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 17.252 10.26 9.89333 4.46 9.4 10.8 7.71667 138.412
bmd 25.756 12.71 7.68 5.28 6.2 9.4 6.75 135.596
The fighting Jed Clampetts 14 11.892 7.73333 2.12 8 12.8 5.69467 118.072
THE TRAPPERS 7.992 8.72 10.3533 7.74 8.6 12.2 6.264 122.616
Holt's Hillbilly Army 16.008 12.504 10.1267 4.84 11.6 20.6 7.09733 151.02
Toral Wheatfarmers 12.62 9.348 7.75467 1.988 6 18.6 7.85 128.268
Texas Taxes 8.852 12.14 6.93333 4.72 8.6 16.2 7.05 125.752
Stl Cards 8.684 8.272 8.39333 4.78 10.6 11 6.9 118.188
Slowhand 12.956 11.54 4.76667 6.94 7.4 9.2 8.03667 122.096
Tree's Cage of Death 15.152 9.54 6.9 2.98 9.528 14.2 5.85 116.74
Sunday Trippers 18.444 9.364 6.34 3.94 6.2 13.2 6.68 119.612
Da Bomb Squad 12.532 11.58 6.924 4.2 6.2 22.6 7.71867 135.776
Your Future RIFC AAA 13.188 14.58 7.23333 7.2 8.2 9.6 6.05 125.348
Smith32 14.108 10.09 8.04667 7.18 9.6 15.2 7.56667 135.808
Average 14.11 10.90 7.79 4.88 8.29 13.97 6.94 128.09
 
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 3.14 -0.64 2.10 -0.42 1.11 -3.17 0.77 10.32
bmd 11.65 1.81 -0.11 0.40 -2.09 -4.57 -0.19 7.50
The fighting Jed Clampetts -0.11 1.00 -0.06 -2.76 -0.29 -1.17 -1.25 -10.02
THE TRAPPERS -6.12 -2.18 2.56 2.86 0.31 -1.77 -0.68 -5.48
Holt's Hillbilly Army 1.90 1.61 2.34 -0.04 3.31 6.63 0.15 22.93
Toral Wheatfarmers -1.49 -1.55 -0.04 -2.90 -2.29 4.63 0.91 0.17
Texas Taxes -5.26 1.24 -0.86 -0.16 0.31 2.23 0.11 -2.34
Stl Cards -5.43 -2.62 0.60 -0.10 2.31 -2.97 -0.04 -9.91
Slowhand -1.15 0.64 -3.02 2.06 -0.89 -4.77 1.09 -6.00
Tree's Cage of Death 1.04 -1.36 -0.89 -1.90 1.23 0.23 -1.09 -11.35
Sunday Trippers 4.33 -1.53 -1.45 -0.94 -2.09 -0.77 -0.26 -8.48
Da Bomb Squad -1.58 0.68 -0.87 -0.68 -2.09 8.63 0.77 7.68
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.92 3.68 -0.56 2.32 -0.09 -4.37 -0.89 -2.75
Smith32 0.00 -0.81 0.26 2.30 1.31 1.23 0.62 7.71
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
120Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 10:28 		Scoring was quite a bit down this week. I expect it to be even lower over the next couple as teams start to really suffer from bye weeks.

Thanks to Al Wilson I have led IDP scoring for the second straight week. My WR recovery is on hold for another week while Wayne is on bye.
122Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 16:15
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 8 2 0 0.800 1510.20 151.02 1284.58 W5 267.48
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 7 3 0 0.700 1357.76 135.78 1275.52 W1 241.76
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 6 3 1 0.650 1253.48 125.35 1223.64 W2 238.60
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 6 4 0 0.600 1381.62 138.16 1242.12 L1 226.16
Smith32 Crowler2002 6 4 0 0.600 1358.08 135.81 1289.12 W2 273.40
bmd beastiemikd 6 4 0 0.600 1352.96 135.30 1319.42 W3 260.72
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 5 5 0 0.500 1257.52 125.75 1238.84 L3 233.48
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 4 5 1 0.450 1226.32 122.63 1300.34 L2 212.80
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 4 6 0 0.400 1282.68 128.27 1380.18 L2 204.88
Slowhand Slowhandmt 4 6 0 0.400 1220.96 122.10 1317.02 W1 272.24
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 4 6 0 0.400 1196.12 119.61 1268.50 L1 262.92
Stl Cards Kes2golf 4 6 0 0.400 1181.88 118.19 1195.60 L3 205.60
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 3 7 0 0.300 1167.40 116.74 1286.40 W2 283.00
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 2 8 0 0.200 1181.04 118.10 1306.74 L2 239.60
Total
 69 69 2 0.500 17928.02 128.06 17928.02    
123leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 16:47 		It is amazing that you guys had a tie. Has to be a first for an RIFC league considering we go two decimal points.
124holt
      ID: 10830261
      Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 18:15 		I'm in a bit of a pinch for week 7. looking for a servicable RB or two for that week. fire away.
125StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 11:39 		I accepted the trade from Sunday Trippers: Lendale White for Donnie Edwards. Awaiting commish approval.
126Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:15 		Actual we are waiting on league approval...well at least a day until we see if any objections are raised.
127Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 14:58 		Trip,

Sorry that I did not get back to you...it must have seemed rude to not respond. Unfortunately, I was out of town doing a trial all of this week (with no e-mail/internet access (that I have access to) in the small town where the trial is taking place) and only returned to town several minutes ago and checked my e-mail and saw yours.

Once again, I apologize.

Letter J
128holt
      ID: 10830261
      Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:14 		tree, got your offer. not a bad offer, but because of bye-week issues I'm not in a position to drop 2 players atm.
129Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 17:36 		so make a counter! LOL
130FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 01:07 		sent you an offer trip
131Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 12:22 		Trip,

Trade offer sent.
132Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 12:27 		FUGAZI,

Trade offer sent.
133Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 15:06 		FUGAZI,

Another trade offer sent.
134holt
      ID: 10830261
      Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 04:23 		wolfer, your lineup is incomplete. forgot to start that kicker you picked up.
135holt
      ID: 10830261
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 01:15 		wow. what a crazy game in arizona.

as the bears go, so goes my team. looked like I had blown any chance of beating tree, but those 2 defensive TD's turned it around.

sidenotes:

60-yard Jones lives up to his name once again.

I have Eli, Pennington, and Leinart at QB. I can deal one of em now. Primarily looking for an RB, but will consider an upgrade at another position if the right offer comes along.
136Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:23
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 16.87 9.5667 11.5722 3.7167 8.1667 10.16667 7.94444 140.4367
bmd 24.11 15.575 8.27889 5.5 6.6667 11.16667 6.68056 143.5133
The fighting Jed Clampetts 10.5367 12.202 7.47778 2.25 7.6667 10.66667 5.38444 110.2633
THE TRAPPERS 9.58 8.0667 10.4556 8.75 8.5 14 6.48389 127.2333
Holt's Hillbilly Army 15.2067 12.162 9.47778 4.3 10.667 20.5 7.06167 145.8
Toral Wheatfarmers 12.97 9.8317 8.81222 2.3067 7.6667 17.83333 7.33333 130.8767
Texas Taxes 8.55667 11.858 6.07222 4.95 8.8333 16.5 6.65278 120.69
Stl Cards 9.66 7.4183 7.55556 6.9 9.5 11.16667 7.18056 117.8133
Slowhand 13.11 10.708 6.41111 7.5833 7.3333 10 7.80278 125.4933
Tree's Cage of Death 16.6933 9.3333 7.13333 3.9333 8.1067 13 5.80556 116.6333
Sunday Trippers 17.1267 9.1867 6.01111 4.4833 6.6667 12 6.91389 118.1667
Da Bomb Squad 12.35 11.692 8.21222 3.7833 7.1667 20.16667 7.68444 137.5933
Your Future RIFC AAA 13.4167 14.425 8.15 7.9167 7.3333 9.333333 6.72222 131.6333
Smith32 13.5067 10.958 7.88889 6.2333 10.167 14.16667 7.375 133.9067
Average 13.84 10.93 8.11 5.19 8.17 13.62 6.93 128.58
 
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 3.03 -1.36 3.46 -1.47 -0.01 -3.45 1.01 11.86
bmd 10.27 4.65 0.17 0.31 -1.51 -2.45 -0.25 14.94
The fighting Jed Clampetts -3.30 1.27 -0.63 -2.94 -0.51 -2.95 -1.55 -18.31
THE TRAPPERS -4.26 -2.86 2.35 3.56 0.33 0.38 -0.45 -1.34
Holt's Hillbilly Army 1.37 1.23 1.37 -0.89 2.49 6.88 0.13 17.22
Toral Wheatfarmers -0.87 -1.10 0.70 -2.88 -0.51 4.21 0.40 2.30
Texas Taxes -5.28 0.93 -2.04 -0.24 0.66 2.88 -0.28 -7.89
Stl Cards -4.18 -3.51 -0.55 1.71 1.33 -2.45 0.25 -10.76
Slowhand -0.73 -0.22 -1.70 2.40 -0.84 -3.62 0.87 -3.08
Tree's Cage of Death 2.86 -1.59 -0.97 -1.25 -0.07 -0.62 -1.12 -11.94
Sunday Trippers 3.29 -1.74 -2.10 -0.70 -1.51 -1.62 -0.02 -10.41
Da Bomb Squad -1.49 0.76 0.10 -1.40 -1.01 6.55 0.75 9.02
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.42 3.50 0.04 2.73 -0.84 -4.29 -0.21 3.06
Smith32 -0.33 0.03 -0.22 1.05 1.99 0.55 0.44 5.33
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
137Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:26
RIBC AAA Division
Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 10 2 0 0.833 1749.6 145.8 1471.9 W7 239.4
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 9 3 0 0.75 1651.12 137.59 1495.3 W3 293.36
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 8 3 1 0.708 1579.6 131.63 1485.14 W4 326.12
bmd beastiemikd 8 4 0 0.667 1719.16 143.26 1559.92 W5 366.2
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 7 5 0 0.583 1682.74 140.23 1500.56 L1 301.12
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 6 5 1 0.542 1526.96 127.25 1586.74 W2 300.64
Smith32 Crowler2002 6 6 0 0.5 1606.88 133.91 1618.9 L2 248.8
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 5 7 0 0.417 1573.22 131.1 1641.44 W1 290.54
Slowhand Slowhandmt 5 7 0 0.417 1505.92 125.49 1583.28 L1 284.96
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 5 7 0 0.417 1448.28 120.69 1536.08 L5 190.76
Stl Cards Kes2golf 5 7 0 0.417 1413.76 117.81 1409.3 W1 231.88
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 4 8 0 0.333 1418 118.17 1578.18 L3 221.88
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 3 9 0 0.25 1399.6 116.63 1589.2 L2 232.2
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 2 10 0 0.167 1323.48 110.29 1542.38 L4 142.44
21598.3 21598.3
138Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:27 		I am really starting to regret taking Chad Johnson over Holt or Smith.
139Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 11:30 		i'm really starting to regret playing.

i should have just let a monkey draft for me.

i can't figure out why my team is so awful, although the loss of Alexander is pretty significant, i suppose.
140holt
      ID: 10830261
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 18:41 		thanks for posting the charts each week trip. especially the positional chart.

again, if you need a QB, I'm the guy you wanna talk to. i have eli, pennington, and leinart. I have some bye eek issues this week so I wanna get something done soon. preferably rb, but I'm open to other possibilities.
141Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 22:55 		I know someone here can use the services of a starting RB, Leon Washington of the j-e-t-s. (Well, he possibly may ((I don't know for sure either way)) not technically be the "starter"). Regardless, he's put up 159 yards over the past 2 weeks on 4.7 ypc. Compare that to the player 2nd in rushing over the past 2 weeks, Barlow, who has just 44 yards on a measly 2.7 ypc. Anyway, I'm looking for an upgrade at most any other position.

P.S. I just used parentheses inside parentheses to create a double parentheses. If that's not grammatically correct, it should be.
142StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 15:22 		I'm looking for a good starting RB and willing to trade Larry Fitzgerald.
143Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 15:53 		i'm just really looking to make a trade.

somebody make me an offer!
144StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:19 		I accepted the trade with Da Bomb
Leon Washington and Witten for Shockey.

Hopefully Witten gets on track and Washington actually plays. Who knows, but I figure it is worth the gamble since Shockey has struggled with his injuries and isn't being used like he has in the past. That could change of course now that he says he is getting better, but I'm counting on Witten to come on as well.
145Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 17:29 		I like Washington and do believe he will be the best Jets RB for the remainder of the year, but I did have an extra RB to spare. I was getting fed up with Witten but at least the bright side with him is that he can't do much worse and can only get better as the season goes on. I am slightly concerned with Shockey's injuries but he says he is getting better and is coming off his best game of the season.
146holt
      ID: 10830261
      Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 05:06 		still offering Leinart for an RB.
147Tree
      ID: 149522215
      Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 19:33 		another week where i left a phenomenal amount of points on my bench.

each of the two WRs on my bench that played outscored the COMBINED TOTALS of the three i started.

the defense i benched was nearly 2 1/2 times the score of the defense i started.

the RB i benched nearly tripled the one i started.

this is the story of my season.
148Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 21:44 		I hate you Leon Washington.
149holt
      ID: 10830261
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 16:24 		the football gods are having there way with you tree. makes me wonder what you did to cause all that wrath. I make sure to cut one player from my roster every week to offer as a sacrifice, just in case.
150Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 23:43 		#%^*&%^#* #*&#@$%* #&(@#&%
151StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 01:05 		Leon's not so bad ;)
152Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 09:50 		Sorry Slowhand. I thought you had it when I saw that last int returned. Third highest score so far this year though. And I'm betting you are the all time highest scoring loser in RIFC history.

Stats and standings will be posted shortly.
153Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 10:00
RIBC AAA Division
Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 11 3 0 0.786 1972.32 140.88 1761.5 W1 222.72
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 10 4 0 0.714 1891.64 135.12 1753.5 W1 240.52
bmd beastiemikd 10 4 0 0.714 2079.6 148.54 1797.54 W7 360.44
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 9 4 1 0.679 1798 128.43 1703.66 L1 218.4
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 7 7 0 0.5 1915.5 136.82 1830.76 L3 232.76
Stl Cards Kes2golf 7 7 0 0.5 1711.76 122.27 1627.82 W3 298
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 6 7 1 0.464 1745.72 124.69 1824.36 L2 218.76
Slowhand Slowhandmt 6 8 0 0.429 1885.28 134.66 1893.16 L1 379.36
Smith32 Crowler2002 6 8 0 0.429 1810.96 129.35 1920.34 L4 204.08
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 6 8 0 0.429 1805 128.93 1869.9 W2 387
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 6 8 0 0.429 1789.1 127.79 1884 W1 215.88
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 6 8 0 0.429 1700.8 121.49 1825.68 L1 252.52
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 4 10 0 0.286 1604.52 114.61 1766.7 W2 281.04
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 3 11 0 0.214 1596.12 114.01 1847.4 L4 196.52
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154Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 10:25
Average points per slot per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 21.1 11.033 12.9833 4.7167 8.5 11.16667 8.88889 159.8333
bmd 28.39 19.087 9.84556 10.45 7.5 15 7.41667 173.55
The fighting Jed Clampetts 13.1233 14.402 8.64444 3.9333 9 12.66667 6.70389 133.6833
THE TRAPPERS 12.8 9.4 10.97 10.8 9.3333 14.5 7.72 145.4633
Holt's Hillbilly Army 17.4833 12.553 10.7056 5.3667 11.833 23.5 8.15889 164.36
Toral Wheatfarmers 14.3933 10.598 10.5678 2.5733 9 18.66667 8.55556 148.8667
Texas Taxes 10.1167 14.858 7.84444 6.2833 9.1667 17.5 7.56778 141.7233
Stl Cards 12.6933 10.435 8.38333 8.1 10 12 8.97222 142.6467
Slowhand 14.6233 12.508 9.2 8.2167 9.5 14.16667 9.66389 157.1067
Tree's Cage of Death 19.72 10.275 7.58333 5.9667 9.2733 14.5 6.70833 133.01
Sunday Trippers 22.0567 11.612 8.71667 5.7667 8.3333 14.16667 8.45333 150.4167
Da Bomb Squad 13.1833 13.292 9.81667 5.1667 8.8333 21.33333 8.84778 157.6367
Your Future RIFC AAA 16.0833 16.933 9.26667 9.1667 7.5 10.16667 7.54167 149.8333
Smith32 16.1133 12.033 9.92222 6.8 11.667 14.66667 7.97222 150.9133
Average 16.56 12.79 9.60 6.66 9.25 15.29 8.08 150.65
 
Average points per slot by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 4.54 -1.75 3.38 -1.95 -0.75 -4.12 0.81 9.19
bmd 11.83 6.30 0.24 3.79 -1.75 -0.29 -0.67 22.90
The fighting Jed Clampetts -3.44 1.61 -0.96 -2.73 -0.25 -2.62 -1.38 -16.96
THE TRAPPERS -3.76 -3.39 1.37 4.14 0.09 -0.79 -0.36 -5.18
Holt's Hillbilly Army 0.92 -0.23 1.10 -1.30 2.59 8.21 0.08 13.71
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.17 -2.19 0.96 -4.09 -0.25 3.38 0.47 -1.78
Texas Taxes -6.45 2.07 -1.76 -0.38 -0.08 2.21 -0.52 -8.92
Stl Cards -3.87 -2.35 -1.22 1.44 0.75 -3.29 0.89 -8.00
Slowhand -1.94 -0.28 -0.40 1.55 0.25 -1.12 1.58 6.46
Tree's Cage of Death 3.16 -2.51 -2.02 -0.70 0.03 -0.79 -1.38 -17.64
Sunday Trippers 5.49 -1.18 -0.89 -0.90 -0.91 -1.12 0.37 -0.23
Da Bomb Squad -3.38 0.50 0.21 -1.50 -0.41 6.05 0.76 6.99
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.48 4.15 -0.34 2.50 -1.75 -5.12 -0.54 -0.81
Smith32 -0.45 -0.75 0.32 0.14 2.42 -0.62 -0.11 0.27
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total point differential impact per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 4.54 -3.51 10.14 -1.95 -0.75 -4.12 4.83 9.19
bmd 11.83 12.60 0.73 3.79 -1.75 -0.29 -4.00 22.90
The fighting Jed Clampetts -3.44 3.23 -2.88 -2.73 -0.25 -2.62 -8.28 -16.96
THE TRAPPERS -3.76 -6.77 4.10 4.14 0.09 -0.79 -2.18 -5.18
Holt's Hillbilly Army 0.92 -0.47 3.31 -1.30 2.59 8.21 0.45 13.71
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.17 -4.38 2.89 -4.09 -0.25 3.38 2.83 -1.78
Texas Taxes -6.45 4.14 -5.28 -0.38 -0.08 2.21 -3.10 -8.92
Stl Cards -3.87 -4.70 -3.66 1.44 0.75 -3.29 5.33 -8.00
Slowhand -1.94 -0.56 -1.21 1.55 0.25 -1.12 9.48 6.46
Tree's Cage of Death 3.16 -5.02 -6.06 -0.70 0.03 -0.79 -8.25 -17.64
Sunday Trippers 5.49 -2.35 -2.66 -0.90 -0.91 -1.12 2.22 -0.23
Da Bomb Squad -3.38 1.01 0.64 -1.50 -0.41 6.05 4.58 6.99
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.48 8.29 -1.01 2.50 -1.75 -5.12 -3.25 -0.81
Smith32 -0.45 -1.51 0.96 0.14 2.42 -0.62 -0.67 0.27
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
155Tree
      ID: 3940305
      Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 06:40 		i think i'm going to rename my team "Bye Week", because that's pretty much what it is for anyone who plays me.
156Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 08:50 		It does not appear that Manning or Romo received their points (1) for 2-point conversion passes in the this week's games. I will wait and see if it picks them up. I have verified that it is set up correctly in the system, but wanted to make everyone aware of the issue. If it doesn't pick them up, I will manually adjust the scores on Tuesday.
157Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 09:55 		re : 152 "Highest scoring loser" that's me ;-)

If Taxman beats me this week I'm changing MY team name to "Highest scoring losers".
158StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 17:12 		I need 62yds for Troy Brown so I can at least go 1-1 this week. A TD would be as equally welcome :)
159Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 09:50
RIBC AAA Division
Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 13 3 0 0.813 2261.64 141.35 2017.34 W3 289.32
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 11 5 0 0.688 2211.08 138.19 2063.12 L1 319.44
bmd beastiemikd 11 5 0 0.688 2384.68 149.04 2098.62 W1 305.08
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 9 6 1 0.594 2022.76 126.42 1976.6 L3 224.76
Slowhand Slowhandmt 8 8 0 0.5 2195.4 137.21 2128.68 W2 310.12
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 8 8 0 0.5 2167.98 135.5 2064.92 L1 252.48
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 8 8 0 0.5 2154.68 134.67 2182.16 W4 349.68
Stl Cards Kes2golf 8 8 0 0.5 1936.84 121.05 1893.16 L1 225.08
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 7 8 1 0.469 2002.8 125.18 2071.52 L1 257.08
Smith32 Crowler2002 7 9 0 0.438 2099.76 131.24 2177.38 W1 288.8
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 7 9 0 0.438 2008.6 125.54 2093.28 W1 307.8
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 6 10 0 0.375 2011.98 125.75 2141.2 L2 222.88
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 5 11 0 0.313 1874.08 117.13 2054.96 W1 269.56
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 3 13 0 0.188 1759.36 109.96 2128.7 L6 163.24
Total 111 111 2 0.5 29091.6 129.87 29091.6
160Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 10:06
Average points per slot per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
bmd 22.56 16.94 8.22583 9.4875 6.625 11.25 6.79167 149.23
Tree's Cage of Death 14.68 9.5875 6.14167 4.6625 8.08 11.125 5.63542 109.96
Texas Taxes 9.5375 14.656 6.38333 7.2875 7.125 15.125 6.33208 125.53
The fighting Jed Clampetts 12.6025 11.908 7.99167 3.8 7.625 10.75 5.75708 117.11
THE TRAPPERS 10.6675 8.3563 8.69833 8.925 8.375 13.625 6.79417 125.165
Your Future RIFC AAA 15.685 14.431 7.11667 8.2125 6.625 8.125 6.26042 126.4225
Smith32 14.1725 9.6 8.7 6.8 9.75 13 7.03542 131.235
Slowhand 12.8775 12.019 7.7375 6.3 9.125 13 8.11 137.2125
Toral Wheatfarmers 11.9875 8.6863 9.005 2.1425 7.25 15.5 7.38542 125.58
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 19.4675 9.6438 10.225 5.475 7 9.125 7.4375 135.655
Da Bomb Squad 10.7725 10.815 9.84583 4.0625 6.875 19.125 7.69833 138.1925
Stl Cards 11.6875 8.77 7.1875 7.825 8.25 9.125 7.51042 121.0525
Holt's Hillbilly Army 14.37 11.871 8.65 4.15 10.375 20.125 7.10667 141.3525
Sunday Trippers 19.88 9.69 8.52083 7.0625 6.875 11.875 7.33792 134.6625
Average 14.35 11.21 8.17 6.16 7.85 12.92 6.94 129.88
 
Average points per slot by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
bmd 8.21 5.73 0.05 3.33 -1.23 -1.67 -0.15 19.35
Tree's Cage of Death 0.33 -1.62 -2.03 -1.49 0.23 -1.79 -1.31 -19.92
Texas Taxes -4.82 3.44 -1.79 1.13 -0.73 2.21 -0.61 -4.35
The fighting Jed Clampetts -1.75 0.70 -0.18 -2.36 -0.23 -2.17 -1.19 -12.77
THE TRAPPERS -3.69 -2.86 0.52 2.77 0.52 0.71 -0.15 -4.72
Your Future RIFC AAA 1.33 3.22 -1.06 2.06 -1.23 -4.79 -0.68 -3.46
Smith32 -0.18 -1.61 0.53 0.64 1.90 0.08 0.09 1.35
Slowhand -1.48 0.81 -0.44 0.14 1.27 0.08 1.17 7.33
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.37 -2.53 0.83 -4.01 -0.60 2.58 0.44 -4.30
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 5.11 -1.57 2.05 -0.68 -0.85 -3.79 0.50 5.77
Da Bomb Squad -3.58 -0.40 1.67 -2.09 -0.98 6.21 0.76 8.31
Stl Cards -2.67 -2.44 -0.99 1.67 0.40 -3.79 0.57 -8.83
Holt's Hillbilly Army 0.02 0.66 0.48 -2.01 2.52 7.21 0.16 11.47
Sunday Trippers 5.53 -1.52 0.35 0.91 -0.98 -1.04 0.40 4.78
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total point differential impact per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
bmd 8.21 11.46 0.16 3.33 -1.23 -1.67 -0.90 19.35
Tree's Cage of Death 0.33 -3.25 -6.10 -1.49 0.23 -1.79 -7.84 -19.92
Texas Taxes -4.82 6.89 -5.37 1.13 -0.73 2.21 -3.66 -4.35
The fighting Jed Clampetts -1.75 1.39 -0.55 -2.36 -0.23 -2.17 -7.11 -12.77
THE TRAPPERS -3.69 -5.71 1.57 2.77 0.52 0.71 -0.89 -4.72
Your Future RIFC AAA 1.33 6.44 -3.17 2.06 -1.23 -4.79 -4.09 -3.46
Smith32 -0.18 -3.22 1.58 0.64 1.90 0.08 0.56 1.35
Slowhand -1.48 1.61 -1.31 0.14 1.27 0.08 7.01 7.33
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.37 -5.05 2.49 -4.01 -0.60 2.58 2.66 -4.30
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 5.11 -3.14 6.15 -0.68 -0.85 -3.79 2.97 5.77
Da Bomb Squad -3.58 -0.79 5.02 -2.09 -0.98 6.21 4.54 8.31
Stl Cards -2.67 -4.88 -2.96 1.67 0.40 -3.79 3.41 -8.83
Holt's Hillbilly Army 0.02 1.32 1.43 -2.01 2.52 7.21 0.99 11.47
Sunday Trippers 5.53 -3.04 1.04 0.91 -0.98 -1.04 2.37 4.78
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
161Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 10:06 		FYI...week 7 charts were off. I forgot to change the number of weeks in those calculations.
162StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 15:09 		I'm sorry, but can someone explain to me what these charts represent? I think I understand "Average points per slot per game, by position" to be the average of each active player per position averaged over all the weeks. But what is "Average points per slot by position "? and why are lots of the columns the same as the chart "Total point differential impact per game, by position"? Does "Average points per slot by position" contain the average for every player on your roster at that position whether in the active lineup or not also including bye-weeks? I'm sure this was discussed before and I must have missed it.
163Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 15:48 		First table is average by all players per position.

The other tables show the difference between a teams position's performance and the average at that position.

The second table shows the cumulative difference while the third table divides by the number of starting slots at a given position.
164Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 09:30
Views » Season » Playoffs » YTD Points

RIBC AAA Division
  Overall PF PA Game
Team W L T Pct Tot Avg Tot Strk LP
Holt's Hillbilly Army holtRIFC 15 3 0 0.833 2537.88 140.99 2235.58 W5 276.24
bmd beastiemikd 13 5 0 0.722 2745.00 152.50 2410.20 W3 360.32
Da Bomb Squad SportGuy88 12 6 0 0.667 2553.56 141.86 2369.48 W1 342.48
Your Future RIFC AAA Champ jtserb69 10 7 1 0.583 2274.24 126.35 2227.02 L1 251.48
Sunday Trippers Day Tripsta 10 8 0 0.556 2414.08 134.12 2390.78 W6 259.40
Smith32 Crowler2002 9 9 0 0.500 2453.02 136.28 2371.68 W3 353.26
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts LetterJ007 9 9 0 0.500 2400.22 133.35 2286.76 W1 232.24
Texas Taxes Taxmanif 9 9 0 0.500 2256.92 125.38 2307.74 W3 248.32
Slowhand Slowhandmt 8 10 0 0.444 2447.80 135.99 2440.26 L2 252.40
Stl Cards Kes2golf 8 10 0 0.444 2121.84 117.88 2160.98 L3 185.00
THE TRAPPERS zombiefullback 7 10 1 0.417 2187.08 121.50 2365.02 L3 184.28
Toral Wheatfarmers Filmer Toral 7 11 0 0.389 2292.66 127.37 2447.56 L1 280.68
The fighting Jed Clampetts DWolfe9760 5 13 0 0.278 2098.68 116.59 2304.86 L2 224.60
Tree's Cage of Death Treesham01 3 15 0 0.167 1963.68 109.09 2428.74 L8 204.32
Total
 125 125 2 0.500 32746.66 129.95 32746.66    
165Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 11:37
Average points per slot per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 18.7 9.3 10.6 5.5 6.6 8.7 7.3 133.5
bmd 21.7 18.6 8.4 9.6 6.7 12.0 6.7 152.7
The fighting Jed Clampetts 11.7 12.3 7.7 3.8 7.8 10.9 5.8 116.6
THE TRAPPERS 11.3 7.7 8.7 8.2 8.6 12.3 6.6 121.5
Holt's Hillbilly Army 13.8 12.5 9.0 3.7 10.0 18.9 7.1 141.0
Toral Wheatfarmers 12.0 8.9 8.9 2.5 7.6 15.8 7.5 127.2
Texas Taxes 10.6 14.7 6.3 6.9 7.1 14.1 6.4 125.4
Stl Cards 11.3 8.7 6.7 7.5 8.0 10.4 7.2 117.9
Slowhand 13.4 11.6 8.0 5.8 9.1 12.8 7.9 136.0
Tree's Cage of Death 15.0 9.3 6.2 5.5 8.1 11.9 5.2 109.1
Sunday Trippers 19.8 9.4 8.2 6.7 6.3 12.0 7.6 134.1
Da Bomb Squad 11.9 11.3 10.4 5.0 6.3 19.0 7.7 141.9
Your Future RIFC AAA 14.1 14.7 7.0 8.2 7.4 7.9 6.4 126.3
Smith32 13.9 9.8 9.4 8.1 9.3 13.9 7.2 136.4
Average 14.22 11.35 8.25 6.21 7.77 12.90 6.90 129.96
 
Average points per slot by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 4.5 -2.1 2.3 -0.7 -1.2 -4.2 0.4 3.5
bmd 7.5 7.2 0.2 3.4 -1.1 -0.9 -0.2 22.7
The fighting Jed Clampetts -2.5 0.9 -0.5 -2.4 0.0 -2.0 -1.1 -13.4
THE TRAPPERS -2.9 -3.6 0.4 2.0 0.8 -0.6 -0.3 -8.5
Holt's Hillbilly Army -0.5 1.2 0.7 -2.5 2.2 6.0 0.2 11.0
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.2 -2.4 0.6 -3.7 -0.2 2.9 0.6 -2.7
Texas Taxes -3.6 3.4 -1.9 0.7 -0.7 1.2 -0.5 -4.6
Stl Cards -2.9 -2.6 -1.6 1.3 0.2 -2.5 0.3 -12.1
Slowhand -0.8 0.3 -0.2 -0.4 1.3 -0.1 1.0 6.0
Tree's Cage of Death 0.7 -2.1 -2.0 -0.7 0.3 -1.0 -1.7 -20.9
Sunday Trippers 5.5 -1.9 0.0 0.4 -1.4 -0.9 0.7 4.1
Da Bomb Squad -2.4 0.0 2.1 -1.2 -1.4 6.1 0.8 11.9
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.1 3.3 -1.3 2.0 -0.3 -5.0 -0.5 -3.6
Smith32 -0.3 -1.5 1.1 1.9 1.6 1.0 0.3 6.4
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total point differential impact per game, by position
Team QB_Avg RB_Avg WR_Avg TE_Avg PK_Avg DEF_Avg IDP_Avg Total_Avg
2006 ShortBus Stalwarts 4.5 -4.2 7.0 -0.7 -1.2 -4.2 2.4 3.5
bmd 7.5 14.4 0.6 3.4 -1.1 -0.9 -1.2 22.7
The fighting Jed Clampetts -2.5 1.9 -1.6 -2.4 0.0 -2.0 -6.8 -13.4
THE TRAPPERS -2.9 -7.3 1.3 2.0 0.8 -0.6 -1.7 -8.5
Holt's Hillbilly Army -0.5 2.3 2.2 -2.5 2.2 6.0 1.3 11.0
Toral Wheatfarmers -2.2 -4.9 1.9 -3.7 -0.2 2.9 3.6 -2.7
Texas Taxes -3.6 6.8 -5.8 0.7 -0.7 1.2 -3.2 -4.6
Stl Cards -2.9 -5.3 -4.8 1.3 0.2 -2.5 1.8 -12.1
Slowhand -0.8 0.5 -0.6 -0.4 1.3 -0.1 6.1 6.0
Tree's Cage of Death 0.7 -4.2 -6.1 -0.7 0.3 -1.0 -10.0 -20.9
Sunday Trippers 5.5 -3.8 0.0 0.4 -1.4 -0.9 4.3 4.1
Da Bomb Squad -2.4 0.0 6.3 -1.2 -1.4 6.1 4.5 11.9
Your Future RIFC AAA -0.1 6.7 -3.9 2.0 -0.3 -5.0 -3.0 -3.6
Smith32 -0.3 -3.0 3.4 1.9 1.6 1.0 1.9 6.4
Average 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
166holt
      ID: 4310748
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 09:39 		i'm looking to deal for a decent TE. anyone interested? send me an offer, or just ask me to look your team over and I'll make an offer if I can.
167Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 11:09 		Trade offer received (and rejected...not that the league would approve it anyway) today: (posted as a reminder that this is only a game...to some of us)

Requestor:...Da Bomb Squad

Offers:
RB Laurence Maroney(r), NE
RB Corey Dillon, NE
WR Antonio Bryant, SF

Acceptor:Texas Taxes

For:
QB Jon Kitna, DET
RB Larry Johnson, KC
RB Michael Bennett, KC


verily...we be known by the trade offers we make.


168Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 11:31 		a) Opening offers are usually feelers
b) It's not inconceivable to think that Dillon/Maroney will outpoint Johnson/Foster(your RB2) the rest of the way as Deangelo Williams' return will be sure to hurt his value.
c) Bryant is an upgrade over your 3rd WR
d) Kitna doesn't start for you

It's usually appreciated if one counters first before crying to the rest of the rotoguru community. If the season ended today, you would not make the playoffs. Usually teams outside of the playoffs like to shake up their teams. Not saying you should have accepted this offer, it is OK not like an offer, but it is immature to post an offer. I've received plenty of poor offers, much worse than this mind you, from other rotogurupies yet you don't see me making posts each time.
169Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 13:38 		so, do i get some kind of reward for continuing to manage my team through the ongoing suck that it is?
170holt
      ID: 4310748
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:54 		I think it's great anytime someone actively manages their team the whole season. (I noticed someone in this league started Steve Smith this past week - his bye week).
171Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 17:02 		yea, but we've all been in plenty of leagues were the manager of a team who fared as poorly as i did in the first half drops off the face of the earth.
172Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 18:43 		(I noticed someone in this league started Steve Smith this past week - his bye week).

That was me but it was stupidity, not laziness. I was sure I had put Furrey in Smith's place -- should have checked my lineup one more time.
173Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 20:27 		"Opening offers are usually feelers"

So here is my "opening offer" and the response:

Texas Taxes was offering:
QB Jon Kitna, DET
WR Randy Moss, OAK
To receive from Da Bomb Squad:
WR Terrell Owens, DAL
WR Marques Colston, NO

Message from declining owner:
Jerk

Hint to declining owner...shouldn't make "opening offers" if you are embarrassed when published.
Can't argue with your labeling me a jerk, but if true, today, I will be a jerk with you ..in the day light...for all to enjoy.

So to look at your support of the fairness of your trade:

Bryant in 2006
wks 1-2: 8 rec for 252 yrds 1 TD
wks 3-9: 20 rec for 245 yrds 1TD
My #3 (?) Kotchery:
wks 1-2 12 rec 186 yrds 2 TD
wks 3-9 23 rec 275 yrds 1 TD
If my #3 ins Matt Jones..who knows, he has been injured all year. Bryant isn't an upgrade.

How do you know Kitna is not my starting QB? I've started three different QBs this year. Why should I give hime to you with the top (or 2nd best) RB in fantasy football in exchange for the NE RB hand-cuff neither of which is a stand alone starter?

A lop sided offer is exactly that. Your BS is short on the "B" and long on the "S"

174Da Bomb
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 21:17 		shouldn't make "opening offers" if you are embarrassed when published
I'm not embarrassed in the least. I just find it astounding that you found this offer so amazingly horrible that you felt you needed to tell the world about it. By doing such a thing combined with your "counteroffer" of something that you knew was going to be rejected led to my labeling of jerk. I really think you should take your own advice of this being "a game" and not get so upset over something such as a trade offer. It's ok not to like an offer, just reject it or counter it and move on; don't be a child and whine about it. It's not worth getting this upset over. What I wonder now is what your reaction would be if I had made this offer during tax season.
175holt
      ID: 4310748
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 22:01 		toral, if I remember right, having furrey benched didn't end up changing the outcome of either of your games. good to hear that it was just a mistake.

tree, it is definitely appreciated. several teams in our league are battling for a playoff spot, and even the teams that are out of contention play a pivotal role in deciding it.
there are several gurupies I know of who chronically go inactive when things don't go their way. maybe they think people don't notice or care, but they couldn't be more wrong.
what's really irritating is when one of them continues to be active on the boards while leaving their team untouched for weeks. hate that.

can we start a new thread. this one is slow to load now.
176FUGAZI
      ID: 074720
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 22:29 		Lord! whats with all the rib injurys on my team this last weekend? im open to all trade offers, i realy need a solid WR.
177Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 09:54 		Moved to new thread
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