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Subject: RIFC AA Regular Season Discussion

Posted by: mjd - Sustainer [501381415] Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 22:25

Here's all the links in our journey:

RIFC AA Qualifying league

RIFC AA Draft Discussion 1

RIFC AA Draft recap

RIFC AA Draft Discussion #2

Season discussion can continue here

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Sep 03, 2006, 22:32

Judy, it's your team, do as you see fit.

If it pans out, it's a great idea.

boikin
ID: 41745118
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 11:10

The thursday game and not player movements till wednesday is really going to make the opening week interesting.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 12:05

All undrafted and unclaimed players will become free agents at 11:59 tonight, once wavers are processed. You'll have up until 5 minutes before any free agent's kick off to pick them up, first come, first served.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 04, 2006, 21:54

Starting at 11:59 tonight, I'll process waver claims. Shouldn't take too long.

At 12:30 AM, all unclaimed players will be released to free agency, available first come, first served. Players dropped during the waiver claiming will be subject to a 48 hour waiting period, but there will be no more waiver claims until after the first week of NFL games. Waiver priorities for that period will be based on records for the first weekend (worst-to-first).

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 00:29

Claims processed

mjd claims S.Davis, RB, StL for Greg Jones, RB, Jax
Judy claims Marques Colson, WR, NO for D.Henderson, WR, Den
twilson claims Ron Dayne, RB, Hou for Chris Perry, RB, Cin
mjd claims Al Wilson, LB, Den for E.Hartwell, LB, Atl

That's it

At 12:30 AM all undrafted or unclaimed players will be free agents subject to first come, first served.

If for some reason, the system does not work, post the FA that you want and the player you are releasing and I'll fix it at 11:AM when I have a chance to c heck in again.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 00:42

I tested it, it should work

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 11:10

Can Team 7 and team 12 change their names please?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 11:13

Hard talking smack to a team cllaed Team 7 who I play this week! ;)

Btw, what is up with AOL having Gerald Hayes listed as IR. Perhaps they won't change him until this week's injury report comes out. Weird as they have updated my WRs. No wonder he is owned by 0%. ;)

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 11:39

minor correction.

I added Colston and dropped B Marshall (den)

boikin
ID: 400291013
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 12:51

Ref i had the same problem with a player i just dropped him not sure how that would all work out.

weykool
ID: 41750315
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:16

Team 12 needs to set their line-up also.
May need to find a replacement manager.
If not can the commish set the line-up to make it an even playing field?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:21

Still early. I'll be checking to assure that lineups are set

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 14:53

I'm going to try the "Judy" method of lineup setting and start different lineups in the 2 games. It's only one player different, though.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 15:52

Well we know we have managers wiating to jump in and help us. I'd first suggest that mjd email the league reminding everyone. Then if he still has to set a lineup, then we replace. If you can't set your lineup, then you obviously aren't going to have time to be active. But let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt. This is Tuesday. Games start Thursday. I'd also see when the last time he logged in before removing. If it's been awhile and game time is approaching, you might feel inclined to remove before the game so the new manager can make any adjustments with the FA wire and set his starting lineup.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 16:18

According to the draft grid, Team 12 is Muhahos 2006 and Team 7 is Astade.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 16:26

Also I just realized that you have to set your lineup for both games. There is a box that I blieve allows you to set it for both games at once. I had my lineup set before mdj set the 2nd schedule of games. Please check your lineups to be sure you don't have your entire lineup benched!

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 17:02

I just checked AOL. Only 2 teams have not set rosters.

Only one team has not visited the site since before this past weekend.

I'll send them a "friendly" reminder.

I'll continue to monitor the situation, but I really don't think there's any cause for concern, at present.

Thanks for the reminder about checking both lineups, Ref. The sched is set for the reg season.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 17:33

The upload manager is working for team logos today too. It had been down for quite awhile--or ate last it wouldn't work for me.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 21:44

I just uploaded a team image after an hour of trying.

Sure wish I knew how I figured it out.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 21:45

Teams 12 and 7 match ups are set -- I play each and they have
line ups in.

We need some better lookin' logos. Check out mine!

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 21:47

gee -- uploading was easy for me. But the image had to be small -
I think 28 K, so I had to shrink it quality wise.

go to team home and double click on the current logo and then
follow the instructions on the next page.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 21:51

Ref -- I love your logo! I ref women's Field Hockey and Lacrosse!

Can you email it to me?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 21:58

For a dollar! ;)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 05, 2006, 22:00

Thought the handle Ref was pretty appropo on a sports site. Since I grabbed the handle Ref, I picked up quite a bit of Ref clip art. I may have some field hockey and lacrosse refs. I have tons of soccer ref stuff. I'll see what I can find and send them to you.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 16:58

I thought it was odd that an IDP forced fumble gets 2 points and a fumble recovery was just 1 point, but those are the rules.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 17:18

I believe the theory was that a FF is a skill event while a recovery is more luck.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 11:08

Makes sense I guess. Wonder if there was ever a discussion about return yards after fumble or the INT?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 15:31

Ref, I was interested in how the RIFC came about the initial rules and scoring so I went to pages 17 and 16 in the Football Forum to look for them. Interesting read.

Initially, FF and FR were both 1 point each. Must have been tweaked after the first year.

As for your return yards question. It appears that the Fanball site had no scoring option for IDPs that score a TD or yardage following a INT or FR, but Guru said that he would be willing to manually add 6 points for the TD, but not willing to do the same for INT and FF return yards.

As a commish in a later day qualifying league, I appreciate that.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:34

The only reason I asked is because AOL tracked that. For being a free site, I'm pretty impressed with aol's si thus far. Still want to see how they sort out the FAs coming up but really liked the live scoring feature.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:49

I like how they sort out FAs also. By position and they are sortable, as I recall.

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 18:28

Every time I click on live scoring, I fall further behind. And they haven't played any games since last night.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 19:02

I won't have the power to change any scoring until tomorrow. So Treasonists, I don't know what's up with that. Maybe scoring updates; take away a tackle here and a pass defended there. If you notice something specific, let me know, I'll check into it.

We may have a scoring change. I'm looking into it now.

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 19:33

It's no big deal. I had the Bears Def and they returned a punt for a TD. I think they took that away.

holt
ID: 22726517
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 19:40

tackles get updated constantly.

btw, team defenses shouldn't be getting points for punt/kick returns this season. that rule was changed this year.

holt
ID: 22726517
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 19:41

more specifically, they don't get points for punt/kick return TD's.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 19:49

Thanks, holt

Treasonists, that's the change I thought I might have to make manually, but AOL has fixed it.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 12:19

Well as nice as it is to start off 2-0, I now see, I have to play two of the top teams next week.

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 21:26

Question:

Last week, AOL listed whether a player was P, Q, D, etc. But this
week there is no indicator code and I know from looking at team
WWW that both Freeney and Stokely are Q.

Is there a day of the week when that information is usually posted?
It seemed to be there all the time before last week's games...

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 22:16

Judy, I wouldn't put much faith in those indicators from AOL. They had several players listed as IR (injured reserve), which means that they are done for the year. Ray Lewis was one, and he played last week. There were several others.

Could be it was left over from last year and not yet updated this year. Regardless, I recommend cross checking on at least a couple of more reliable sites such as Rotoworld or NFL.com team pages for injury updates. There are a ton of sites that offer this info for free.

P: probable, I think that means a 75% chance that he will play.

Q: questionable, 50%

D: doubtfull, 25%

The NFL requires teams to list players on the injury reports on Tuesday, I believe. I think that those reports are updated daily.

I'm still in partial baseball mode and have a couple of fantasy baseball teams in tight championship races.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 12:53

YIPES I think I might lose R Brown, Kearse, Hood (I took him to
match up with Burress...sigh), and Freeney to injuries.

And Brady, Cadillac and Heap are each having a lousy fantasy year!

Time to regroup!

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 13:13

Good to see 50% of the league make at least 1 claim today. It can be difficult to understand at first, but once you play with it/make a claim it's easier than you think.

Well done. Any questions, just shoot me an email

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 12:30

Looks like several outcomes hang in the balance and will depend on tonight's game.

I thought I was in pretty good shape to get to .500 uptil the Pats D rolled over last night. Now I'm a sitting duck, likely to have a higher claims priority than I had hoped for.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 13:05

Current Week Schedule
Game Team Opponent
1 Master of My Domain TD Dragons
1 Skeepers mjd's Upstate Bombers
1 Twarpy's Tdotters 2006 Vicious Goats
1 weykool Astade
1 bjclinton0 Muhahos
1 Peter N. twilson
1 JUDY CATS Can't Beat The Refs
2 Master of My Domain bjclinton0
2 Skeepers TD Dragons
2 mjd's Upstate Bombers weykool
2 Twarpy's Tdotters Astade
2 Peter N. Muhahos
2 twilson JUDY CATS
2 2006 Vicious Goats Can't Beat The Refs

The Goats are killing and I get to play them this week. Oh Great! Well maybe I can break her win streak. Looks like I play the Ladies this week.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 13:51

how are the power rankings determined?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 18:30

I think it's your record against all the teams each week. At least that comes out to 39 games. In CBS Power rankings is a combination of your H2H record, total points and breakdown (record against all the teams each week).

weykool
ID: 41750315
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 11:37

Would anyone like to make a reasonable offer for Shaun Alexander?

boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:40

TO?

acctaully ill have to think about it.

VP.
ID: 298322712
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:42

Man AOL is such a piece of crap...I can't stand even setting my lineup each week the site is so slow. I think I'm going to try to code a "front-end" for the site that is text-based and will submit claims and lineup adjustments for me. Ok...that probably won't actually happen...I'm just venting.

anyway, I'd be interested in Alexander...don't feel like getting back on the site just now, but send me an offer or I'll send you one later.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:25

I've had issues with AOL from time to time. They do seem better this year than last.

I'd be interested in what weykool is looking for for Alexander.

In a nother league where we start 2 QBs, I was offered Roethlisberger, Alexander, Molds, and A.Green for Bulger, Wayne, and Edge. The guy is desperate for a QB, as both of his are on a bye, this week. I begrudgingly declined the offer as my other QBs are Culpepper and Sims. If I had a viable 3rd QB, I'd have jumped all over this offer. In this 12 team, start 2 QB league, some teams are carrying 4 QBs and Sims' backup is not even on the waver wire. I'm not in trouble with byes yet, so I'm going to sit back and wait, maybe send out a few trade offers.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:28

i do not know how this effects things but it looks like alexander may play this weekend.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:31

That's interesting. I just got home and haven't waded past the TO BS yet to see what else is going on.

VP.
ID: 298322712
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:38

I'd be pretty surprised if Alexander actually ends up playing this week, but the news is good that it's feeling better (for his owners at least).

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 00:30

NAH.

Alexander isn't going to play this week -- 'cause I signed Morris
and I needed another RB who can earn some points. (Cadillac
has a bye -- although he hasn't been so hot either.) The
Seahawks have a bye next week and they would be crazy to play
him Sunday primetime or not; besides the second xray says it is
still broken!

I dumped some guys into FA -- Stokely and Freeney -- I got
tired of their poor performance and lousy injury status. We shall
see if I made the correct decisions! In the meantime, take 'em if
you want 'em.

I wish Brady would wake up and get more interested in playing...

Meanwhile, back in baseball -- GO PHILLIES -- a nail biter
tonight!

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 11:00

That Phillies game last night was a good one. They really needed to win that hard fought battle.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 18:59

I've got some guys I'd be willing to trade. Looking for a WR for starters. I have some RBs and others I could move.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 12:13

I'm willing to make a trade also, but I don't think we match up well trade-wise, Ref. I've got RBs also and marginal WRs. Now that Simms is out, I'm not sure if Galloway has any value or not. Not that he was all that great with Simms. Probably can't get much worse. No TDs yet.

Anyone looking for RB help, JJ and/or Marion Barber are on the block. In fact, all my players are available. I'm in need of a backup QB and plenty else.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 12:39

I got some WRs looking for some QB or RB help open to offers.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 15:43

How do I withdraw a trade offer?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 23:08

I'm not sure, but if you want to withdraw a trade offer, just state your intentions here or notify the other party by email.

Both parties must agree and just because you made the offer shouldn't mean you can't change your mind. I know of no rule that says that you can't.

Now if both parties had pubicly agreed, then that would be different.

VP.
ID: 298322712
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 08:08

Yeah...but what would've happened if the other party had already accepted? By then it's too late to make a post saying "oh wait I didn't actually agree to it - lets cancel". To me, making the offer is equivalent to agreeing to your half of the deal. Now changing your mind before its accepted like Ref did seems to be OK (and normally he'd be able to just cancel the deal himself), but there have to be some limitations on when you can go back on a deal right?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 13:56

Goods points, VP. But no trade is a done deal until it's approved by the commish. This usually comes after both sides have agreed. I guess the question remains, is making the offer to be construed as consenting to the deal? But isn't an offer just an offer?

Could lead to a good discussion in it's own thread.

This is a quote from Yahoo: "To propose a trade, go to your team page and select "Propose Trade," which allows you to select the team and player(s) you wish to trade. An email will be sent to the other manager offering your proposed trade. That manager can then go to his/her team page to view the proposal, accept it, decline it, or make a counter offer. There must be consent from both managers for a trade to be completed."

That last line is interesting. It appears as though even the guy who made the offer must consent. It does not say that an offer is consent. AOL has no explaination that I see on this matter.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 17:36

an offer is consent. that's why i wanted to withdraw my offers. Luckily they time out and the managers I sent trades to didn't respond one way or another.

VP.
ID: 1491928
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 10:22

Pretty strange there's no way to withdraw trade offers at any rate. We'll have to be extra careful about our offers I guess :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 11:35

LOL!!!

Now today there is an area to cancel trades from the main page. Weird as they are expired already. Weren't there before so not sure if they are new or what. I looked all over the site before and now they pop up on the front page so it wasn't an oversight on my part.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 12:29

Thanks Ref you answered my question allready.

VP.
ID: 40935210
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 12:35

In other news it's really fun to be pitted against the week's high scorer twice in a row...CMON DONNY MAC

Grats on an incredible week anyway BJC

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 15:21

Yeah he still has Favre going to...

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 19:36

Sorry, I was hitting on all cylanders (I can't remember how to spell that word) this week. I'm sure next week will be the opposite.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 23:41

I'm surprised I did so well when I couldn't score one freakin TD (passing TD's not included). Appears that it will be enough to take down our lone undefeated team.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 00:44

Nice job, Ref. Look at those IDP scores.

WOW, BJClinton threw up a very strong number. Great job.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 12:49

I was looking at some of the features that AOL gives and one of them is Hall of Fame where it ranks top 5 performances in every position. I finally got a player on there when my DLine guy hit #4, but other than that I don't have a guy on the list. That tells me I have no real studs on my team, but yet my guys are somehwat consistant in order to have a 6-2 record. In week two I lost both of my games by less than 5 points. So while I might not ever have the top score in a given week, it appears that my team is going to do pretty well each week.

This is the first time I've played in a RIFC league and I got to say that I'm really liking the setup. Am really liking the IDP aspect of it. Changes strategy somewhat.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 14:10

Somehow the PF/PA headers got moved over a step but you get the picture.

VP.
ID: 298322712
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 15:33

Man even with McNabb's superhero routine I couldn't overcome that monster week. These 1-1 splits have got to go...

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 22:59

Any chance we can narrow the margins, so comments don't go so
far to the right?

Any chance we can redraft -- now that I know who scores points in
this league? (Just kidding...)

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 12:00

POSSIBLE trade offer... Who has Westbrook? (I am too lazy to
look it up...) I have Buckhalter and if you want to handcuff him
to Westbrook, I MIGHT consider a trade. I need a "good" WR or a
(back up) RB who is equal to Buckhalter.

I also have both TE Heap and D Clark (CHI) with the same bye
week (7). Now that Heap seems to be healthy, I MIGHT be
willing to trade Clark for a good/decent WR, RB or LB.

Any offers?

(I am hoping this is how one proposes trades and that people do
read this DISC!)

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 13:25

I'm set at TE, as Gonzo has already had his bye.

Judy, that's one way to do it, but the offers may come, or not.

Unfortunately, the best way to get a trade done is
to do some looking at other rosters and see who has Westbrook (it's GB)and see who has who you want that needs a TE. You might even have to sell your deal as mutually beneficial to both teams. But to start negotiations you may need to make a specific offer to someone.

At this level (AA), trading seems difficult. I'm
not sure why. All's I know is that we are the only
RIFC sanctioned league to not make a trade yet.
I've seen it happen in RIBC AA leagues also.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 20:05

Question:

Some of the stuff I read says Play so and so as a TE or WR if your
league allows. Does that mean you can designate a receiver for
either position? It would sure make things easier for me!

I am assuming that our league does not allow that, as they seem to
have already decided what position the players play.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sat, Oct 07, 2006, 21:01

Marques Colston has both TE and WR position eligability in some Yahoo leagues.

The reason can be found here

Unfortunately for you Judy, he's only eligable as a WR in AOL and the RIFC.

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 12:43

One of these weeks, starting different lineups is going to burn me. I'll try different running backs this week.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 13:42

I'm in a quandry. Many players on the opposition in this league are owned by me in other leagues.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 23:37

It's amazing that so many of my guys stunk all in the same week. Going to be by far my lowest score of the year.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 09:43

Just out of curiosity - how "final" might today's live scoring be if
both teams finished all players yesterday?
I have a 3.48 lead in one game and am wondering if i should get
excited about a possible win!

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 10:28

Let's see, 30 seconds left, the only way I can lose to Judy's team is if the Philly Defense intecepts the ball and returns it 100 yards for a TD.......Doh!

I think you have to sweat it out until Wednesday, Judy.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 11:11

haha that is great Treason...

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 12:07

I think I had you by .14, but the INT sure helped!

GO EAGLES! What a great game that was -- even though I wish
they had told us Westbrook was going to play (It was a secret right
up until game time...), so I didn't start Buck (Cadillac finally had a
good game, but not for me -- I kept him on the bench -- sigh.)
My bench players did well too. Some tough decisions in the
coming weeks...

I have to sweat out tonight's game vs TD. He has two players left
and I have one...but I have a nice lead -- I think!

mjd
ID: 592112011
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 15:13

I got more points on my bench then on the field.

If this wern't fantasy, I'd fire myself;(

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 15:46

lol mjd!

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 13:17

Record with Shaun Alexander:

1-3

Record without:

5-1

Go figure.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 13:45

Overall

Game

Team

Pct

Tot

Avg

Tot

Strk

Skeepers�

0.9

1307.12

130.71

1182.02

243.48

2006 Vicious Goats�

0.8

1476.54

147.65

1181.72

216.08

Muhahos�

0.6

1488.66

148.87

1291.6

317.96

bjclinton0�

0.6

1476.16

147.62

1345.12

266.54

Can't Beat The Refs�

0.6

1379.84

137.98

1249.7

221.48

Peter N.�

0.6

1299.04

129.9

1279.36

237.08

TD Dragons�

0.6

1283.34

128.33

1229.64

224.28

weykool�

0.6

1250.44

125.04

1238.6

256.4

Master of My Domain�

0.5

1313.04

131.3

1306.26

243.6

twilson�

0.5

1148.76

114.88

1200.9

237.16

JUDY CATS�

0.4

1179.32

117.93

1326.82

266.7

mjd's Upstate Bombers�

0.2

1054.04

105.4

1205.84

147.08

Astade�

0.1

970.12

97.01

1232.46

150

Twarpy's Tdotters�

914.28

91.43

1270.66

L10

196.8

Total

0.5

17540.7

125.29

17540.7

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boikin
ID: 59831214
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 13:56

i like how i have smoke and mirrored my way to a 9-1 record.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 17:37

I know -- I have a lot of second tier players who are doing well for
me...I didn't know enough about what to draft...

My Eagles players are doing just fine. Week nine will be interesting
when they have a bye -- but I think I will be covered OK. In this
case, it is paying off to stock up on the home team.. although it
would be nice to have Donovan as well!

Boik, I don't know about the smoke and mirrors though... your
point totals are often out of reach! Nice going!

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 17:39

Post the quality of wins rankings! I got second! (I am not sure how,
but...)

mjd
ID: 592112011
Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 00:51

Judy, that's what I like about the RIFC format. AA is the lowest level, but the competition in the RIFC
is second to none. I believe that playing against the best can raise one's own game to a higher level.

My results this year, so far, do not support my goals;-(

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 14:36

Bummer mjd - you beat me to Gradkowski!

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 18:07

I wish I picked him up last week.

You should be OK with Young for a bye week replacement. I got bit by the QB injury bug in

another league and I guess I'm a little paranoid, so I'll probably continue to carry 3 QBs until after the byes.

100

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 00:21

Fixed the margins for you Judy. ;)

101

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:30

YEAH,

It was either Young or Huard and i decided to take a chance that
the kid could thread his way through the washington redskin
excuse for a defense... we shall see.

102

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 17:26

Lot of WW and FA activity today

103

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 00:00

Copied from the RIFC thread.

Ru150 Guru ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 14:31 This is a reminder that this week is the last week you can make player claims without any weekly carryover effect on priority.

After this weekend's games, the priorities will be reset as usual, after which they will not be reset again until after the regular season. Starting next week, any processed claim will move the claiming team to the back of the line, with no weekly resets.

104

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:58

mjd, per your email, are you going to set twarpy's lineup and replace all the bye week players in there?

105

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 13:14

I replaced twarpy's bye week players but didn't start making the adjustments until 12:45. I wanted to give him a chance and I had other stuff going on here at home.

Well AOL is very slow especially on Sunday's, so I was unable to go back and replace Dan Morgan. Sorry about that.

106

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 13:25

Well you replaced 4 of the 5, that's not bad for last minute salvaging--esp. when you had to make do with who was on the bench.

107

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 13:30

Not sure if a commish can set lineups after the freeze, but since there is only one more player in mike brown and morgan is obviously out, can you still make that change?

108

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 13:34

Looks like it worked. Thanks for the suggestion, Ref.

109

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 14:15

Seems like twarpy has lost interest in his team. I have sent out an email to someone who I've communicated with recently who offered to step in to help us out, at any time. I explained the 0-10 situation to him and I'll let you know if he's up for the challenge. He's already competing in AAA, so he'll have no bearing in who moves up to the next level. I just hope his offer is still open.

As for twarpy, he did step up to help us through our draft, so I thank him for that. I've been watching this situation from the start and probably should have acted sooner. I take full responsibility for that and appologize to any team that has been negatively impacted by my failure to act sooner.

Learning to commish is a work in progress and I'll learn from this experience.

110

Astade
ID: 57544126
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 19:16

Oh btw, I am still active (despite my record). I'm not sure I should be announcing that...but with the 2nd worse record, I figured it might be necessary.

My reason for starting Culpepper? I thought Bledsoe had a legit shot at a Negative, even against a sappy Houston team. Anyone interested in trading a QB, I have WRs to deal

111

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 19:37

Astade, not concerned with you or any other league.

Sent you an offer to try and make the first AA trade.

112

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 19:49

here's my email if you'd like to discuss

113

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 20:18

I sure hope I don't lose to Twarpy tomorrow, since s/he didn't
really set the lineup...

I realize we want some competition, but s/he hadn't done any
lineups since Sept 6th and to begin now seems a bit unfair in
terms of potential effect on the standings. The opponents on
the weeks 2-5 had an advantage with no active management by
Twarpy. They all beat him/her. If I lose, I will be MOST
unhappy!

Those are just my thoughts, -- probably because I am
competitive and want to win... Without those additions/fixin's
by the commish, it would have been a slam dunk win for
me...kinda like it was for the other 2-5 week Twarpy opponents.

I think it needs to be fair through the whole season.

114

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 20:40

Judy, Twarpy's last visit to the league site was 10/04. So he was setting a roster until this week, even though he has never made a WW, or FA transaction. Like I said, I've watched every lineup every week and up until this weekend, he's never been totally MIA.

115

Astade
ID: 57544126
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 21:05

mjd,

Got your trade offer. I'll get back to you on Tuesday/Wednesday.

116

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 22:53

REF

173 points and one guy still left to play on Monday? (Good choices
-- your bench score is 1.40...)

SHEESH! That's AWESOME!

117

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 23:03

Got hit hard by bye weeks this week and had to pick up a bunch of FAs to fill out my lineup--including an injury two mins before the freeze. Yeah, things finally came together for having so many replacements on my team. Hoping my regulars that I get back next week will help me continue this.

As far as Twarpy's team goes, he's never had bye players in his lineup before this week I'm guessing--at leat not that I ever saw. And no players were picked up (not sure there have been all year) so it's not like he went out and got good players to try and score a lot this week. All he did was replace players who were on bye.

118

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 03:09

I have to agree with Judy on this one.

Twarpy's team had 5 guys in weeks 4 and 5 that did not score any points.
As one of the teams that is facing Twarpy this week now I am put at an "unfair" disadvantage compared to the 4 teams who faced him with a weaker squad.
I will still probably win my match this week so it may be a moot point, but I would have been very upset if the outcome were different.

This happens to be one of the problems I have had with other H2H leagues in the past.
The only thing worse than an inactive manager is one who is semi active.
They set thier lineups for 2 weeks then let it go to hell for 3 weeks only to return and set it for the next 2.
The 3 teams who got wins might not have deserved those wins.

Hopefully we can find someone to take over the team for Twarpy so it will be fair for all the teams and not just for some of them.

119

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 09:28

I have a question on the schedule. I only play the 0-10 Twarpy team one time and I play TD three times. One would think that you would play every team two times, since there are 13 other teams and 13 weeks with doubleheaders.

Also, I can trade a QB...pick one..Favre, Green, or the guy on the Bears and make an offer.

120

TD
Sustainer
ID: 036331011
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:10

I always assumed I would play every team twice, and didn't look at the schedule to verify. Looking at the schedule now, I see I play bjclinton0(The Treasonists?) 3 times, and Peter N. only 1 time.

This should be corrected if possible.

121

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:45

HEY -- me too.

I play mjd 3 times and skeepers only once. (Actually not a bad
break considering skeepers record...)

Somebody goofed with the schedule. TD is right, we should be
playing each team twice.

Can this be fixed before we hit the turnaround point this weekend?

122

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:49

RE: 118

Basically, he was replaced as manager before the game. When do we fix it? Do we just make sure that everyone beats him to make it "fair?" His team isn't good at all. If you lose to him ever with his current makeup of players, you deserve the L. So what about thre rest of us who still have to play him--now with a new manager who will pickup decent players? Should we be mad about that? Bottom line is that he will still lose both games this week. The only "equitable" way from what I'm getting from your post is to leave his team as is so we can all stomp on it each week. I understand where you are coming from, but I'd rather lose to his team then to have it an automatic win every week. That's no kind of competition.

I'd email mbj about the schedule conflicts. I'm going to check my schedule now too just in case.

123

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:49

From post #103.

Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 14:31 This is a reminder that this week is the
last week you can make player claims without any weekly
carryover effect on priority.

After this weekend's games, the priorities will be reset as usual,
after which they will not be reset again until after the regular
season. Starting next week, any processed claim will move the
claiming team to the back of the line, with no weekly resets.

So this means that after this week, whenever you make a claim
and get the guy, you go to the bottom of the list and roll up as
claims are made by others?

124

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 10:58

RE: 123 correct

Loks like I play Twarpy 3 times and mjd only once. I'll email him now.

125

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 11:04

Ref:

My post was not meant to be a critism of the decision made by mjd, but more a frustration with the H2H format.

The problem as you point out.....there is no time to make the changes that will make it equitable for all teams.
But the changes still have to be made.

The bottom line is we are not competing against Twarpy....but the teams that got "free passes" against Twarpy.

126

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 11:17

Understood weykool. I guess my point is, if not now...when...or better yet...if?

127

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 11:20

Also to be fair to mbj, he said he's been monitoring this situation all year and this was the first week Twarpy didn't check his team and the first week bye week players would have been left in the starting lineup.

128

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 12:29

i talked to mjd, he is not going to have time to look at things the next couple weeks and has asked me to help him. I've looked over the schedule formula and it appears that the mistake is in the #2 matchups. All of the #1 games are accurate as they were scheduled automatically. My error is a simple one that is easily fixed since neither game has come up. Others might not be so we have to get things done asap jsut in case. As soon as he gives me the commish privs. I'll fix them. If you can post the teams and weeks you are scheduled on your #2 matchups twice instead of once and who you aren't schedule at all for a #2 matchup that could help. Obviously, changing one game could affect several other schedules. But hopefully there are all simple like mine. Also, I'll find a new manager since apparently the one he asked hasn't responded and he doens't have the time. Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.

129

boikin
ID: 59831214
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 12:38

treasonist - i am interested in grossman, guy on the bears, what do you want.

130

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:05

smallwhirled is taking over the team. He couldn't get in but I think I figured out why just as he had to go. Said he'd be in by dinner at 6:00 or so. I'm trying to fix the scheduling now.

131

TD
Sustainer
ID: 036331011
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:11

TD Dragons

bjclinton0 scheduled as #2 matchup twice on weeks 3 and 7.

Peter N. not scheduled as #2 matchup.

132

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:13

OMG, next week, week 7 is all messed up. I thought I fixed mine but there is no obvious partner matchup that fits for the others. This is going to take some time. I'm going to keep wroking on it but may get trip or someone else to look it over if I can't figure it out in a somewhat timely fashion.

133

TD
Sustainer
ID: 036331011
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:28

TD Dragons

bjclinton0 scheduled as #2 matchup twice on weeks 3 and 7.

Peter N. not scheduled as #2 matchup.

134

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:42

Yeah, this is not going to be an easy fix. I've already played twarpy/smallwhirled and based on the formula, I shouldn't have played him then. So now, we have to figure out a way to re-arrange teh schedule so everyone can play everyone else twice. I'm thinking that I may be able to counteract some of those by changing some game 1 matchups, but this is going to be a huge headache. Here is the formula:

Game 1 Game 2
Week 1 Week 13
Week 2 Week 12
Week 3 Week 11
Week 4 Week 7
Week 5 Week 8
Week 6 Week 9
Week 7 Week 10
Week 8 Week 4
Week 9 Week 5
Week 10 Week 6
Week 11 Week 3
Week 12 Week 2
Week 13 Week 1

So your week 1 matchup for week 7 game 1 is also your game #2 matchup for game #2. Your week game #2 matchup is also your game #1 matchup for week 10. Problem is if there is a mistake (like there is with my game) then you can't fix it, but you have to figure out another way. Since no one has played anyone else twice (to my knowledge) I'd think there is a way to fix it.

135

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:09

Is there a way to see the entire grid? (ie., to print?)

I can't seem to figure out the formula.

I do schedule stuff (schools) and it could be a simple one by one
substitution getting the 3x to 1 x

if you could see the whole grid, you could see if it works out.
For example for my 3x w/mjd, stick in skeepers (sooner rather
than later ) for one of the mjd's, but then you need to see how
that affects the others.

or not..

136

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:13

OK, I think I found what happened. Apparently mjd made a mistake when scheduling game 2 matchups and it affected week 10 and week 11 game 1s. I had to go through every team and finally figured out that I might have the answer by changing everyone's matchup in week 10. Unfortunately, that is the exact same matchup as week #11. If we now play everyone twice, I can change the week 10 game 1 matchups to another week so we don't have to play the same teams two weeks in a row. Please check your teams immediately to see if you play every team exactly twice.

137

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:14

it looks like mine is fixed.

I now have skeepers (10 and 11) and mjd twice (3 and 7).

Thanks!

138

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:17

Well, the week 1 matchups were all automatically generated, so they were fine. But because of errors on game #2s, I had to go off the formula because games had already been played. I found mine and Judy's errors in week 10 game 1, but like I said, that affected everyone else's entire schedule. So I went through every team and found who needed to add a game and turns out that the week mirrors week #11 game 1. If this is indeed correct, then I'd like to move either week 10 or week 11 game 1 matchups to another week, just so we aren't back to back in consecutive weeks.

139

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:18

skeeper still plays weykool 3x smalwhirled 1x

mjd looks fine

I'll post them two at a time.

140

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:20

smalwhirled looks good

TD looks fixed as per his message (now has peter and bjc twice

141

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:23

In fact, I'd probably want to switch week 10 game 1 to next week game 1 week 7. Reason being is that we will be playing the same team twice before playing some teams for the first time. Week 7 and 10 are really messed up from the formula. In fact, that is the only reasonable thing to do if I did get the scheduling fixed.

142

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:23

weykool looks good

astade looks good

143

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:25

re: 139...back to the drawing board I guess...this is really tough.

144

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:30

re: smallwhirled he only plays the goats once. If there is an error on one team there is at leats one other error, and thus far, one error has led to an error on every single team. They are in different weeks, so obviously, I'll have ot change matchups for several managers again. This stinks. ;)

145

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:34

errr not goats but skeepers, but one affects others, I can't even find who he plays 3 times as everything is running together.

146

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:34

bjclinton0 is fine

hmm weykool and smalwhirled look good but skeepers (3x
weykool and 1x smalwhirled) doesn't?

smallwhrield needs a 9/2 game (skeepers??)

if you put smallwhirled into skeepers in place of weykool on
week 9, game 2, that would work for that...

oops I am making mistakes...elsewhere...

how can that be?

147

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:38

I am going to stop now, -- good luck ref -- it does look, though,
as if there are no problems for this week in terms of teams playing
everyone for the third time.

The playing twice quickly is just the way it goes. it happens in
conferences in the NFL as well. As least is it mostly past the bye
weeks.

GOOD LUCK!

148

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:40

smalwhirld plays goats 4 and 8

149

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:43

one more try and then i gotta go.

try subbing small whirled (SW) into 9/2 vs Skeepers. SW needs a
9/2 game and that is a week that skeeps meets weykool whom he
has 3x.

I think that might fix it.

150

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:46

judy, I am looking at that already. I am hoping that it will fix it, but seems like it will mess up another matchup. We shall see.

151

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:50

Actually, it did mess up two others, but master of domain was short a game and I think this fixed that too.

Judy, if I swap week 7 game 1 and week 10 game 1 then we will be able to play every team once before having to play any team twice (as it is supposed to be) plus we won't have the whole league playing the exact same teams two weeks in a rown in weeks 10 and 11. I want to make sure the schedule is correct first though.

152

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:59

I can't find any more errors. Would be nice if there were a schedule grid. Need everyone to check these--esp their own teams as there may not be a way to fix them after week 7 games are played.

153

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:12

Week 7 and 10 Game 1s have been switched now. Again most of the errors were able to be fixed my changing every single matchup in week 10. Also fixed 4 matchups in week 9 game 2.

Hopefully these changes have resulted in:
1. Every team plays every other team exactly twice
2. The entire league doesn't play the exact schedule two weeks in a row
3. Teams don't play the same team twice before playing every other team once.

Obviously #1 is critical and the other two are just ideal.

154

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:18

My schedule looks good.

I'll probably want more for Grossman (I can never remember his name) than Favre or Green.

Let me see.

155

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:22

Mine looks good.

Did you look into the home vs away?
My team sux on the road.

J/K

156

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 18:26

Sorry for the error and even more so for not having the time to fix it. It was confusing enough to set up preseason, let alone try to fix it mid season.

Much thanks to all who helped especially Ref and Judy, who appear to have done most of the heavy lifting.

Again, sorry.

And welcome, smallwhirled

157

smallwhirled
ID: 408271610
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 18:41

Alright guys, I'm here.

Should be fun, I have enough time for another league so I'll be active.

158

TD
Sustainer
ID: 036331011
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 19:26

Thanks for filling in smallwhirled.

And thank you Ref and Judy for fixing the schedule.

159

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 19:27

judy cats works!

160

twilson
ID: 953338
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 20:31

My schedule looks correct. Two games against everyone as far as I can tell.

161

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 00:45

Well it appears thta no one lost to the last place team afterall. Now with sw managing it, I get to play him right off the bat next week. Where he will be able to get rid of the guys who aren't playing and can get some real players. He has a nice core already, so if sw can tie up the loose ends and weak links, he could be a factor as we start playing teams for the 2nd time.

Astade scores 179 without a QB or one of his RBs. Since I scored the highest that I have this year at 182 (if the scores hold) looks like I should have played him this week as he could hit 200 soon! It's funny how many teams have the capability to score so high on a given week. I think if you make the playoffs in this league, you have a good chance to win it all.

162

VP.
ID: 4892177
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 09:02

Heh I'm just going to stay out of the schedule discussion - looks like you guys got it sorted anyway, thanks Ref.

Anyway, I'm looking to trade a WR or RB, here's who I have of interest:

Steve Smith
Ward
Branch
Berrian

Rudi Johnson
Benson
Tatum Bell

If you're interested in any of the above let me know. I'd like to maybe deal a couple of them for a definite upgrade.

163

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 09:40

Well it appears thta no one lost to the last place team afterall.

??????????????
Looks like I took a loss.
Less than 1 point.
Needless to say none too happy about it.

164

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 09:51

let'ds start a new discussion thread (#4) and begin it with trade
rumors and offers!

165

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:33

Re: 163, From last night until this morning, he got added almost 7 points. But considering that still was with a player inhis lineup who is suspended for the year, he had a good night. But you scored 110. That shouldn't get you a win to be honest. I've lost 4 games this year--both DH games in two different weeks. The first DH I scored 134 points or so and lost by less than 5 points to both teams. The second DH I lost I scored 110 points or so and you were one of the two teams to beat me. Now I get to play that franchise who will be stocked considering his core players are very good and his players who have been getting zeroes will be replaced with scoring players. Think I'll need much more than 111 to beat him.

I'll post the standings in the new thread. Looks like Skeepers is pulling away!

166

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:45

A link for the new thread??

167

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 10:50

It's right bove this one.

New thread.

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