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Subject: RIFC AAA2 Regular Season Discussion #1

Posted by: russelldl - [28533110] Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 10:05

Happy Opening Day everyone!

Frick
ID: 345202714
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 10:11

I just got my DishNetwork installed yesterday and I should hopefully be able to spend the night in my new house. I might even be able to watch the game tonight if I can move enough boxes to clear a line of sight path to the TV.

Let the Football season begin.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 10:56

Congrats Frick!
This is shaping up to be one of the best football weekends in some time.
A good thrusday night game,
two good college games on Saturday (OSU-TEX, ND-PSU),
a full slate on sunday,
a sunday night game,
and TWO monday night games!!!!

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 09:24

Already made my first managing mistake. Welker was money last night. Looks like a good pick if I would just play him!

BoNkA
ID: 12821810
Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 11:21

I'm glad you didn't. I'm already in enough of a hole having to start Ahman Green and TJ Duckett. A big thanks goes out to Mike Shanahan and Clinton Portis' shoulder.

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:10

Man, is AOL really this bad? I look at my team the other day, see that Takeo Spikes is on IR. So I release him. I am watching the Eagles game, and see a highlight of Spikes forcing a fumble. What the hell? Why would they say that he is on IR?

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:23

That sucks. I am guessing it is because they get all their stats from Fanball and Fanball hadn't updated player information from last season. It showed him still on the IR at Fanball along with several other players who were no longer on the IR.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 16:43

Yes, Rodney Harrison was also listed as IR, but I didnt buy it.

We live and learn: Never again will I sit Reggie Bush. And it's like Denver in Foxboro.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:39

So far so good. Hopefully D-Mac and the receivers will continue making up for Chris Brown starting at RB. Getting 21 points from my kicker is helpful as well. Six field goals and he even missed a kick! *boggle*

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:43

Electroman, I almost did the same thing with Gerald Hayes (in AA) after the draft, but after researching last year nad this year, I realized that aol was wrong and that was from last year so I started him and he did well.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 18:16

I think electroman should have dibs on Spikes BTW!

Frick
ID: 345202714
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 10:27

I don't have a problem with Electroman getting Spikes back, assuming he drops the corresponind player that he picked up.

A wonderful 0-2 start for me, with some great managerial decisions that could have had me at 1-1.

wiggs
ID: 57838119
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 11:52

moss sucking cost me 2 wins this week. I really felt good going into last night.

Bags
Donor
ID: 246103120
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 12:24

I am already thinking about waivers for some of my spares. How and when do we start that process?

BoNkA
ID: 55852110
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:05

Yeah, Wiggs, but you also have to remember that our game may not have been that close if Green wasn't hurt. I did, however, think I was going to start 0-2. Both games were pretty darn close.

russelldl
ID: 368161217
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:18

I'm setting the waiver priorities right now, bags. Waiver claims need to be in by noon on Wednesdays.

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:26

We have to go through you? Sorry for my ignorance if it is the rules somewhere:)

russelldl
ID: 368161217
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:39

nope, not through me, just put in a claim using the AOL site. Go under "transactions" and click on waiver wire. Then set up a waiver request. You can set up a number of diferent lists and its pretty well explained. Then on Wednesday at 12:30 they will be processed automatically by AOL. (hopefully)

russelldl
ID: 368161217
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 18:57

I've got a minor issue that I'm pretty sure is a non issue but i'd like someone to double check for me. According to RIFC rules, defenses do not get points for punt return touchdowns. its my assumption that our scoring is working that way right now.
The only team with a punt return TD this week was CHI.
They scored 23 points (for Bandos) and here is the break down:
10pts- giving up 0 points
4pts- 273 offensive yards allowed
4pts- 2 INTs
2pts- 1 fumble recovered
3pts- 3sacks

That gives them 23 which would mean they correctly did not receive points for the punt return. Could someone double check this and make sure it's correct?
Thanks
russelldl

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 20:00

I was hoping for a 1-1 start at least. 0-2 seems like a big hole, I didn't think my team did that poorly either, but there were quite a few big scorers, and 1 point from a TE and WR combined hurt.

Guru
ID: 10841817
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 20:26

Re: claims processing

If the AOL system is a clone of the Fanball system, then you need to set up your claim requests under the Claims section, not the Waiver wire.

The Waiver wire is only for players who have been dropped.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 11:21

Sounds right to me russell. Last year AA had return yardage and touchdowns being scored for defense, which I love to remind everyone cost me the AA championship. So I double-triple checked the scoring system this time.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 12:07

thanks nerf,
I'll just add that we kept resetting the waiver priority all last season in AA also and so I was always last in priority. So that's my claim to the AA title :)
But I do have to say, this is the first league I've commished and its plenty of work. I have a lot more respect for the guys who do it regularly and for Frick doing it in AA last season. I hope I do as well as him.

Also, I'm monitoring the waiver wire situation to make sure it works properly. Having used the AOL site last season I'm pretty sure it was the waiver request option we used but if it gets screwed up, I'll go in and fix it.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 13:22

Ok, either no one made any waiver requests or something went wrong. If you sent in a request, please send it to me asap so we can get this sorted out. I'm giveing until noon tomorrow for everyone to contact me about this. Free agents are available right now but be aware that anyone you pick up might belong to someone who's waiver request got mixed up. I'll have them sorted out by about 1pm tomorrow.
russelldl

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 13:24

I never found the right place to place a waiver. I got to edit claims (there are 4 options on the screen with edit claims on top) but no one was available. Everyone was locked. oh, well, I didnt really want anyone anyhow but what am I doing wrong? Last year in fanball it worked just fine.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 13:39

the way we did it in AA last year (I think) was you went under waiver wire, and submitted a waiver request. The players you saw were locked because they weren't free agents. Everyone is on the waiver wire until Wednesday. So you have to use the waiver wire. But this seems to be the opposite of how fanball works so I'll investigate and make sure we get it worked out and everyone gets the proper waiver claims.

Bags
Donor
ID: 246103120
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 13:50

I also had problems with the AOL website. I just figured I would pick up any FA's left over, since I'm 12th on the claims list.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 14:24

it may be the case that no one made a waiver request in which case things will just stay as they are. Either way, I'll be sure to get things sorted out by tomorrow. I'm not sure if I set things up correctly but I'll make sure we get it squared away.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 15:05

I didn't make a request. I am happy with my team for now.

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 23:09

My live scoring never worked this weekend. Last year it was free? Did they pull a Yahoo on us?

Bandos
ID: 291037911
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 09:55

It worked for me Pancho.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 13:37

Live scoring worked for me as well.

It didnt look like claims were working properly as I found no way to claim a player using the A, B, C lists.

I added a free agent when they were allowed.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 14:09

Live scoring worked for me as well.
I'm not positive about the waiver situation because no one made any claims. I understand that some of you may not have been able to.
My understanding of the system is that you would go under transactions and select "waiver wire". From there you select the option to "create/edit a waiver wire request". From there you can set the A,B,C lists.
I may be wrong and I'm about to email the commish from AA who spent a long time figuring this out (which I should have done also, sorry) and he said they had it run smoothly.
It will be taken care of before the next round of waivers.
I just want to be sure no one wanted to make a waiver claim and could not.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 17:09

I'm composing that email now.

loki
ID: 88401416
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 17:41

Hi-This the first time that I have been able to go on line in over a week as the small towns in France do not have internet cafes. I hope that my son-in law remembers to set my team because I am unable to log into AOL I therefore also do not know how my team did last week. Good luck to all.-loki

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 14, 2006, 18:42

russelldl, email sent, but I seem to be having issues with my server. Let me know if you got it.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sat, Sep 16, 2006, 11:50

No claims made by me this week. Sorry for being off the PC lately. Problems with my right eye have kept me from seeing much of anything. I'll know more next week if it's just allergies.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 21:14

This will drive me nuts - whatever I choose happens to be wrong. Deuce and Bush, Favre and Rivers, my WR - sheesh.

BTW: Russell - I did try to get to the claims and could not. I will keep you posted on what happens this week.

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 22:08

And I still can't get my live scoring to work.

I think last year my browser was Firefox. New computer this year.

Anyone know the scoring rule for Longwell's TD pass?

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 22:37

This is how AOL's Livescoring has it.
PK Ryan Longwell
Pass: 1/1/0/16 TD: 1 (16)
PAT: 1 FG 3 (27,22,19)
Missed FG: 1 (51)
PV Blasters - Starting 14.64

According to the league rules listed on league's site the break down is:
16yds: 0.64
PassTD: 4.00
3FG (0-39): 9.00
PAT: 1.00
Total 14.64

AOL got it right for your team PV.
That being said you are winning 134.24-104.04 vs. Promize and losing 134.16-128.74 vs. Bandos. These scores are as of the end of the 3rd quarter of the WAS-DAL game.

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 23:48

Thanks, Kyle(my son's name!)

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 09:58

Ok, I think I've fixed the waiver system. I had the waiver and claims systems mixed up, my fault. I think it should run smoothly now. Claim away!

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 12:39

Russell, I made a claims list. I am not sure how it works and I am going to e-mail you what i want and what i have. If it what i have is wrong, and will cause the waviers to be claimed incorrectly please tell me.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 14:18

BTW it says I have the 3rd Waiver Priority, shouldn't I have the 5th? Not wanting to cheat anyone out of players or anything.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 16:54

I havent reset the priority list yet. I'll do that tonight. Also, Kyle, I'll send you an email walking you through the claim process. If anyone else needs help with it, email me.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 12:46

waiver claims seem to have gone off without a hitch. Please email me if you had any problems.

Also, I'm going on vacation from the sunday (9/24) to next sunday (10/1). Can I get a volunteer to handle the commish duties for a week. It should be just resetting the waiver priority and that's it. Email me if you are willing to take control for a week.

russelldl
ID: 28533110
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 10:11

I still need a volunteer to be commish for a week.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Sun, Sep 24, 2006, 03:57

Russ. I can comish for the week if needed. E-mail me.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Sep 25, 2006, 20:11

Per Rotowire: Shaun Alexander is out indefinitely with a broken foot, coach Mike Holmgren announced
at his Monday press conference.

OUCH!!!!

wiggs
ID: 35892012
Tue, Sep 26, 2006, 12:54

I am sure I dont want to know the answer to this, but I cant check aol from work, did I win either game this weekend?

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 01:28

Wiggs..

you were 1-1.

Beat Frick, lost to Deep.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 19:01

Not sure if the claims priorities got set right. If you notice any problems, let me know.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 21:58

This has been a rough 4 weeks for me. I have been getting solid scores every week from the key positions and it seems that I play a top 3 scorer for the week. #5 for most points allowed, I am very happy to be .500. The 184.7 point preformance last week didn't hurt.
Things I've seen so far from my team that disappoints me:
1. The biggest concern I have is Carolina's defense. I had them last year and they would win weeks for me single-handedly. I took them as the #2 defense in the 9th round, but between my pick of them and my next pick 7 defenses went. I doubt the 7 teams that took defenses would have passed on Carolina and I hoped for slightly above average play from them. So far the average starting defense (through all games in week 3) scored 12.5 point/week. Carolina's average: 9.0 and they put up a big 5.00 points this week. Very unimpressive and I could have waited and gotten a Waiver Wire team better.

2. My TE play has been attrocious, but for me this isn't anything new. Last year Dallas Clark disappointed when I thought he would be ready for a break out season. I was wrong. I figured I'd make him my backup this year and I picked him as the 15th TE off the board. Who did I think was going to breakout this year? Randy McMicheal. Daunte loves throwing to his TE (see Jermain Wiggens, 2004). In the RIFC scoring system McMicheal has averaged a little over 4 points/game with quarterbacks named Fiedler, Lucas, Griese, Feeley, Rosenfells, and Frerotte. In 2004 he led the team in Receptions. What has he done so far this year? Well the average starting TE (thru week 3) averaged 5.07 points. McMicheal: 1.97 points and Clark wouldn't have been a much better start. I thought Clark would be better today against the Jets. Nope, a solid 1.4 points. My TE play has been the lowest scoring TE so far this year. If this doesn't turn around it'll be another year of abysmal TE play. Thankfully they don't factor too much in this game.

3. My kicker has averaged 2 points below the average, but who really cares about that? A kicker is a kicker, is a kicker. I've yet to put up a goose egg for the position so far. That's ok by my standards.

That's just a rant I've had so far. If someone can instruct me on how to post a spreadsheet into the forum I'll try to get the results thru week 4 (ala Guru's post 108 in the RIFC board). Thanks a good luck to all in the next 12 weeks of the year!

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 11:56

Re defense.

I played Jax, which gave up 36 points to the Skins instead of KC, which shut out the Niners.

Big mistake.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 11:32

All I have to say is that my boy D-Mac is Back Baby woot!

He's single-handedly winning me games at this point, making up for the lack of a #2 RB. A position I will probably never fix unless theres a timely injury where I can jump on the backup.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Oct 03, 2006, 16:18

Well, LJ smith outpointed Favre last night. I can't seem to pick the right guys to start: Grossman and Dillon had good game...on my bench.

I am interested in dealing some of my running back depth to upgrade WR/LB? Im listening.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 11:32

Kyle - good job on the table posting. If you want to include additional formatting (gridlines, background colors, bold, etc.), you need to also copy in the section near the top that starts with "< style" and ends with "< /style>". Again, make sure you try it first at the test forum. Sometimes it can mess up the formatting for the rest of the page.

Bandos
ID: 291037911
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 11:46

Wiggs, I have tried to counter but can't seem to get the dang AOL to work.

Nerfherders - I also tried to propose a trade to you but once again couldnt get it to work. Could you email me and we try to organize it that way?

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 15:09

I redid this so that the formatting would be there. I hope you enjoy it better this way! This may be analysis run amok, but I thought I'd try it to see if there is anything of value. The averages shown are per player. If there are 2 RBs, the reported value is the average points per RB. (Bench players are excluded from the analysis.) I did this for 2 reasons. 1. I saw Guru's interpretation of the RIFC and wanted to see ours. 2. I just needed confirmation that my RBs were doing as good as I thought. All stats are through week 4. Enjoy...

Team	QB	RB	WR	TE	K	DEF	IDP	Total
Nerfherders	22.77	9.42	8.33	5.77	13.67	13.33	7.39	11.52
CowboysHomer	10.81	9.33	9.97	2.80	8.33	28.33	7.84	11.06
PV Blasters	19.20	14.77	7.74	1.37	11.21	14.00	6.17	10.64
Frick's Fumblers	20.00	9.62	6.79	6.87	13.00	12.33	5.76	10.62
The Slickbrooks	18.57	19.08	10.80	1.97	5.33	9.00	8.53	10.47
Bandos	16.17	10.92	7.31	5.27	3.67	18.67	7.14	9.88
deepsnapper	10.19	10.85	10.76	8.57	7.00	10.00	6.56	9.13
New York Titans	8.54	8.38	9.64	8.20	5.67	15.67	4.97	8.73
Bonka Bombers	11.42	14.62	9.04	5.17	4.00	12.33	5.09	8.81
RIFC bound	13.94	8.25	6.51	3.97	12.00	8.33	7.06	8.58
Slackjawed Yokels	14.65	9.87	7.40	6.47	6.33	6.33	7.36	8.34
Electro's Eagles	13.16	13.68	9.58	7.30	3.67	6.33	4.36	8.30
Promize Dawgs	7.46	8.83	7.90	4.70	8.67	14.00	6.03	8.23
Wiggs Supernovas	10.75	7.29	9.82	2.57	12.33	6.33	7.14	8.03
Average Team	14.12	11.07	8.69	5.07	8.21	12.50	6.53	9.45

Team	QB	RB	WR	TE	K	DEF	IDP	Total
Nerfherders	8.65	(1.65)	(0.35)	0.70	5.46	0.83	0.86	14.50
CowboysHomer	(3.30)	(1.73)	1.28	(2.27)	0.13	15.83	1.31	11.25
PV Blasters	5.08	3.70	(0.94)	(3.70)	3.01	1.50	(0.36)	8.29
Frick's Fumblers	5.88	(1.44)	(1.90)	1.80	4.79	(0.17)	(0.77)	8.20
The Slickbrooks	4.46	8.02	2.11	(3.10)	(2.87)	(3.50)	2.00	7.11
Bandos	2.06	(0.15)	(1.37)	0.20	(4.54)	6.17	0.61	2.97
deepsnapper	(3.93)	(0.22)	2.07	3.50	(1.21)	(2.50)	0.03	(2.26)
New York Titans	(5.58)	(2.68)	0.96	3.13	(2.54)	3.17	(1.55)	(5.09)
Bonka Bombers	(2.70)	3.55	0.36	0.10	(4.21)	(0.17)	(1.44)	(4.50)
RIFC bound	(0.18)	(2.82)	(2.17)	(1.10)	3.79	(4.17)	0.53	(6.11)
Slackjawed Yokels	0.53	(1.20)	(1.29)	1.40	(1.87)	(6.17)	0.84	(7.76)
Electro's Eagles	(0.96)	2.62	0.89	2.23	(4.54)	(6.17)	(2.17)	(8.09)
Promize Dawgs	(6.66)	(2.23)	(0.78)	(0.37)	0.46	1.50	(0.50)	(8.58)
Wiggs Supernovas	(3.37)	(3.78)	1.14	(2.50)	4.13	(6.17)	0.61	(9.94)

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 19:10

Bandos, feel free to send an offer my way.

wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Oct 06, 2006, 12:09

bandos, i emailed you, did you get it? if not this is my addy.

BoNkA
ID: 092817
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 19:02

Can't believe how bad my team is. I just..have bad luck with injuries the last 2 years with this league. Doesn't help when people slated to start don't and give me big fat zeros.

Maybe I'll break 50 points this week...AA league here I come :/

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 19:06

Jax D is officially forgiven.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 20:11

Back from Giants Stadium where the Giants looked mediocre in defeating the Redskins. I think that it was the poor offense of Washington that enabled the Giants D to control the 2nd half rather than a dominant Giant's defense.
Back to what is really important, my RIFC AAA team. Despite Bledsoe throwing 3 INTs, losing a fumble, and not throwing 1 TD to TO, I managed to beat RIFC Bound; however I am certain to lose to CowboysHomer after Monday night's game.
Still, I will be very happy to go 1 and 1 until Sean Alexander returns from his injury. Drafting Alexander instead of LT was a good example of Murphy's law in action!!

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 21:39

Pancho, you may forgive Jacksonville now, but remember: They played the Jets.

BoNkA
ID: 2925821
Sun, Oct 08, 2006, 23:25

Sigh, somehow Eric Barton was credited with 9 sacks and has now sky rocketed my score to a whopping 90. Hopefully next week is better.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 00:46

1 sack for 9 yards, or 9 sacks for 1 yard. Ha, that'd kind of funny they screwed that up.
It's not kind of funny that you don't have 90 points, sorry Bonka, there's next week.
If I could manage my team I'd be 2-0 so...

Bandos
ID: 291037911
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 14:00

will get to you guys as soon as my life slows down.

Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 15:51

I might go 2-0 despite getting 8 points from RB-WR. I got 75 points from the Eagles on my team. Go Eagles!

BoNkA
ID: 49918921
Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 23:18

I think Fitzgerald is the final nail in the coffin. RIP my season.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 16:39

Last week I only needed 5 points from Favre to win and lost. This week, 5 points from McNair and I lose, and I won. Go figure.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 02:50

I think just to make the playoffs I am gonna have to keep scoring like 150 points a week. The wins and losses arn't gonna matter if I keep up the 3rd highest point total. I'll get the updated chart together tomorrow. I had a big Chem exam to study for and now I am going to get some sleep before it.
Another 1-1 week. This could have easily been 2-0... Shakes head at managerial errors.

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Oct 14x, 2006, 11:27

Russell: Copied from the RIFC thread. Are we doing this also?

Ru150 Guru ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 14:31 This is a reminder that this week is the last week you can make player claims without any weekly carryover effect on priority.

After this weekend's games, the priorities will be reset as usual, after which they will not be reset again until after the regular season. Starting next week, any processed claim will move the claiming team to the back of the line, with no weekly resets.-l

BoNkA
ID: 339101522
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 00:10

I may change my team name to Bye Week. In other news, my team scored over 50 points this week!

russelldl
ID: 5392129
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 09:53

RE: 73
Yes, that's the rule and that's the way it will be handled.
The order will be reset tomorrow morning, but from there out, if you claim a player you will go to the back of the line.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 22:37

Gerald Hayes has been a savior this game so far. Causing what looks to be a win over Deepsnapper and a very tight game against Slackjawed Yokels.
This Bears-Cards game is very interesting.

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 08:49

Thanks Rex - man, a 28 point swing by not starting Rivers. Yes, Im bitter.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 11:31

I was sweating over that game. 1-4 players left with a 40 point lead, Chicago blowing people away. Somehow I managed not only to win that one but also win a game in my other league in which I had Grossman in my lineup. (and interestingly enough, the Bears D.)

Its the last time I listen to AOL's commentary. They told me to sit Mark Clayton. *sigh*

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 14:05

Request to the league: I just attempted to pick up D. Robinson and drop Jenkins. Somehow Brown was dropped. Would the league allow the Commish change to the drop to Jenkins?

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 16:36

I see no problem Loki.

russelldl
ID: 529271721
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 22:50

If no one has any issue with it, I'll go ahead and put him back on your roster tomorrow evening. And I'll remove Jenkins.

Bags
ID: 9928214
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 06:40

I need some help.

I have lost my way to the fantasy football league. My computer died. I relied too much on my favorites and can't seem to find my back to the RIFC.

If I can get there I will be sure I will be able to log in.

Thanks for any help.

Bags

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 07:55

www.aol.com->link to Sports->link to Fantasy->link to Fantasy Football->Log In with your user name and password. This should get you to your team.-l aol

Bags
ID: 9928214
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 14:01

Thanks for the help.

I thought that was the site but I had a hard time logging in. I was finaly able to remember what my login id was.

Damn the automatic login!

russelldl
ID: 529271721
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 15:50

I believe your issue has been corrected Loki. Email me if you are having any problems.

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 6742221
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 21:07

damn, lost by .06 pts - 1 stinking yard

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 13:20

Two years ago I think I lost a playoff game by a margin like that, and my RB (LDT I think) threw an int! That was tough to swallow.

Well, the Bandos rebounded and got a solid performance (with lots of TD's) But I am still very middle of the pack.

I am open to deals.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 15:47

This is the current standings in the RIFC AAA#2
The teams in bold-blue are currently the playoff teams with Kyle and Slackjawed Yokels being the top non-top 6 teams based on points.

Team	W	L	T	Pct	PF	PA	Strk
New York Titans	12	2	0	0.857	1847.48	1572.20	W4
CowboysHomer	10	4	0	0.714	2047.72	1897.32	W1
Nerfherders	9	5	0	0.643	1943.64	1760.40	L2
deepsnapper	9	5	0	0.643	1869.16	1692.16	W2
PV Blasters	9	5	0	0.643	1789.98	1699.56	L1
Bandos	8	6	0	0.571	1863.12	1826.42	W2
The Slickbrooks	7	7	0	0.500	1970.80	1910.08	L2
Slackjawed Yokels	7	7	0	0.500	1846.12	1678.92	L1
RIFC bound	6	8	0	0.429	1829.48	1837.84	W4
Frick's Fumblers	5	9	0	0.357	1788.28	1787.40	L4
Promize Dawgs	5	9	0	0.357	1634.52	1816.78	W1
Bonka Bombers	5	9	0	0.357	1569.78	1895.74	W2
Electro's Eagles	4	10	0	0.286	1569.40	1744.92	L2
Wiggs Supernovas	2	12	0	0.143	1429.72	1879.46	L9

This is to show the strength of schedules

Team	W	L	T	Pct	Avg PF	Avg PA	SOS
New York Titans	12	2	0	0.857	131.96	112.30	14
CowboysHomer	10	4	0	0.714	146.27	135.52	2
Nerfherders	9	5	0	0.643	138.83	125.74	9
deepsnapper	9	5	0	0.643	133.51	120.87	12
PV Blasters	9	5	0	0.643	127.86	121.40	11
Bandos	8	6	0	0.571	133.08	130.46	6
The Slickbrooks	7	7	0	0.500	140.77	136.43	1
Slackjawed Yokels	7	7	0	0.500	131.87	119.92	13
RIFC bound	6	8	0	0.429	130.68	131.27	5
Frick's Fumblers	5	9	0	0.357	127.73	127.67	8
Promize Dawgs	5	9	0	0.357	116.75	129.77	7
Bonka Bombers	5	9	0	0.357	112.13	135.41	3
Electro's Eagles	4	10	0	0.286	112.10	124.64	10
Wiggs Supernovas	2	12	0	0.143	102.12	134.25	4

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 12:14

Titans... OMG how lucky can a team be? 112 PA. I gotta think that's all gonna catch up to him sooner or later.

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 13:36

Nerf-I realize how lucky my pairings have been, as the 12-2 record was obtained essentially without Shawn Alexander. However with Alexander scheduled to return next week, my team should produce significantly more PPG. Picking up Leon Washington was not a matter of luck; it was a result of living in the NY/NJ area. I am a Giants fan, but have been following the Jets since they were the NY Titans-l

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Nov 03, 2006, 11:43

From RIFC thread:

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Nov 03, 2006, 09:18 This is a reminder that our trade deadline is Friday, Nov. 10 - a week from today.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 05:04

Standings thru Week 9:

Teams	W	L	T	Win %	PF	PA	Streak
New York Titans	13	5	0	0.722	2368.04	2146.94	W1
deepsnapper	12	6	0	0.667	2444.28	2170.06	W2
CowboysHomer	12	6	0	0.667	2640.12	2467.70	L2
Slackjawed Yokels	11	7	0	0.611	2493.28	2110.14	W4
The Slickbrooks	10	8	0	0.556	2505.48	2389.22	W3
Nerfherders	10	8	0	0.556	2426.24	2327.22	L3
PV Blasters	10	8	0	0.556	2247.58	2220.82	L1
RIFC bound	8	10	0	0.444	2367.28	2360.22	L1
Bandos	8	10	0	0.444	2332.28	2411.64	L4
Electro's Eagles	8	10	0	0.444	2207.96	2257.60	W4
Bonka Bombers	8	10	0	0.444	2142.30	2426.48	W2
Promize Dawgs	7	11	0	0.389	2144.88	2327.18	L2
Frick's Fumblers	6	12	0	0.333	2232.64	2313.42	L2
Wiggs Supernovas	3	15	0	0.167	1795.80	2419.52	W1

This is the strength of Schedule Thru Week 9:

Teams	W	L	AVG PF	AVG PA	SOS
New York Titans	13	5	131.56	119.27	13
CowboysHomer	12	6	146.67	137.09	1
deepsnapper	12	6	135.79	120.56	12
Slackjawed Yokels	11	7	138.52	117.23	14
The Slickbrooks	10	8	139.19	132.73	5
Nerfherders	10	8	134.79	129.29	7
PV Blasters	10	8	124.87	123.38	11
Bandos	8	10	129.57	133.98	4
RIFC bound	8	10	131.52	131.12	6
Electro's Eagles	8	10	122.66	125.42	10
Bonka Bombers	8	10	119.02	134.80	2
Promize Dawgs	7	11	119.16	129.29	8
Frick's Fumblers	6	12	124.04	128.52	9
Wiggs Supernovas	3	15	99.77	134.42	3

This is the playoff race for 6rh place and for 8th place.

Race For 6th place W L T Win % PF Games Back Points Back

Nerfherders 10 8 0 0.556 2426.24 -- --

PV Blasters 10 8 0 0.556 2247.58 0 178.66

RIFC bound 8 10 0 0.444 2367.28 2 58.96

Bandos 8 10 0 0.444 2332.28 2 93.96

Electro's Eagles 8 10 0 0.444 2207.96 2 218.28

Bonka Bombers 8 10 0 0.444 2142.30 2 283.94

Promize Dawgs 7 11 0 0.389 2144.88 3 281.36

Frick's Fumblers 6 12 0 0.333 2232.64 4 193.6

Wiggs Supernovas 3 15 0 0.167 1795.80 7 630.44

Race For 8th Place W L T Win % PF Points Back

RIFC bound 8 10 0 0.444 2367.28 --

Bandos 8 10 0 0.444 2332.28 --

PV Blasters 10 8 0 0.556 2247.58 84.7

Frick's Fumblers 6 12 0 0.333 2232.64 99.64

Electro's Eagles 8 10 0 0.444 2207.96 124.32

Promize Dawgs 7 11 0 0.389 2144.88 187.4

Bonka Bombers 8 10 0 0.444 2142.30 189.98

Wiggs Supernovas 3 15 0 0.167 1795.80 536.48

For all charts teams in bold-blue are the current playoff teams. RIFC Bound and Bandos are in the 7th and 8th "points" spots hence they are in the playoffs. PV Blaster is the lowest 10-8 team based on points so he does not qualify for a 5th or 6th place spot and he does not qualify for 7 or 8 based on a lower point total than RIFC and Bandos.

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 08:09

I'm not sure what it says about my team that I am within 100 points of making the play-offs while having a 6-12 record.

Looking at the Colt's schedule I actually might have a chance. Well as long as Peyton can throw 3 TDs a game and make up for my abysmal play at almost any other position.

Good job with the chart Kyle. Could you post the by position chart again. That was really interesting.

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 11:19

How the mighty have fallen. Two game weeks really can tank a team fast if they have a couple bad weeks. I went from first to sixth in 3 weeks. I had a rough stretch with byes in weeks 7-9. Hopefully things recover now that all my players are in.

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 13:58

Frick I can prolly get that for you tomorrow. I have class in about an hour and then I am going home (45 minute drive from college) to vote. Make sure all of you vote today.

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Tue, Nov 07, 2006, 16:38

Kyle, I'm curious. Didn't you say in the RIFC AA last year that you were going to school at DePauw? If so where are you driving 45 minutes to?

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 09:28

PV Blaster is the lowest 10-8 team based on points so he does not qualify for a 5th or 6th place spot and he does not qualify for 7 or 8 based on a lower point total than RIFC and Bandos.

Then what's the point in having head to head competition if the win/loss record is meaningless?
Doesn't that make it a normal rotisserie league?

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 09:32

#97..not rotisserie league, because there's no separate categories, but overall points league.

Why bother with head to head?

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 13:56

I think the original logic was due to the small sample size, even playing double headers, of the football season. The top 6 spots are awarded to the top 6 records, I forget if the tie-breaker is H2H or points.

Spots 7&8 are awarded based on points. I have scored more points than Electroman, Promize and Bonka, yet I have a worse record. Does this mean that they have better teams than mine or have gotten a couple of breaks on scheduling?

You would expect the top 8 scoring teams to have the top 8 records, this system tries to fix mistakes that happen due to small sample size.

100

russelldl
ID: 5392129
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:28

also, if you have any issues with the league set up, it should be brought up before the season in the main RIFC thread. Not to say your view is valid or invalid PV, just that the AAA leagues mirror the RIFC rules, so any changes would have to start from the top.

101

BoNkA
ID: 4385142
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 18:43

I like having those two slots for top points. It's so easy to get an extremely easy or hard schedule. You could put up the 3rd most points every week and still go winless.

102

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 23:20

I'd like it too if I had more points.

103

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Thu, Nov 09, 2006, 03:58

#96 Frick I am going to Valpo, have been since AA last year. Drove home one county for the election. Feels good to vote for all the winners :) The chart will be up tomorrow. I have no classes (God Bless Thursdays) and will be able to get it up.
#98 PV Guru said himself that the RIFC is set up to be basically a points league with H2H to have be incentive to score as much points as possible. Even if it was merely a points league and the top 8 made the playoff you'd still be in 9th place :( Sorry buddy! That being said I am not looking forward to week 12 against you and Slackjawed. 21-15 record. Ugh.
Full slate of games this week, good luck to all.

104

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 51046511
Thu, Nov 09, 2006, 23:46

Kyle - thanks for posting those tables. good stuff.

105

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 16:31

Man, I should have started Palmer. I hope that Brees has a good game.

106

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 02:31

Loki: Teams finally learned that in order to beat you they have to score points. Nothing personal but I am glad to see that the top 2 scoring teams played you this week ;) I am also glad that I was one of them. That being said I am glad I don't have to play your team anymore in the regular season. It's a good group of players.
Electro: Hopefully you scored all your points this week and didn't save any for next week. I'm scared...

108

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 12:17

My aim was just to stay in contention until Shawn Alexander returns so I am reasonably happy with my standing. I picked Alexander over LT because I did not like Rivers at QB. Who know?

109

BoNkA
ID: 1710301312
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 13:30

Looks like it's pretty tight for those last few spots. I know my team has finally picked it up after having some abismal scoring weeks (which will probably end up hurting me in a tiebreaker). But now that Portis broke his hand, I'm worried. I don't really have a RB2 (or RB1 for that matter). At least now I can look back and say the Portis pick was definitely not the right one.

110

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 11:24

Ouch. the freefall continues. This time it was bad luck. I was the 5th highest scoring team this past week and went 0-2. I think I'm still in 6th place though. I have to at least keep up my scoring average and I shouldnt have a problem getting in the playoffs, but 4 weeks ago I definitely wasnt thinking 'just making the playoffs'. I wanted a top two seed and autobid into RIFC. So much for that!

111

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 14:22

Russell, I am gonna start an new thread that contains all the charts from this week. I have 6 charts to post so I thought I'd post it in a new thread.

112

russelldl
ID: 810321123
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 14:52

go for it!

114

BoNkA
ID: 1710301312
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 01:56

Sigh, Portis done and lose by .02 points. Might be a scoring mixup though.

AJ Hawk listed on NFL.com having 5 tackles and 6 assists while AOL scoring has him at 6 takcles and 7 assists. The rest of his statline is the same.

115

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 09:51

Check the gamebook. It has him at 6 & 7 as well.

NFL Gamebook

116

BoNkA
ID: 1710301312
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 11:26

I forgot to check the gamebook. My apologies. I actually thought I had a chance for the playoffs until Portis got hurt and scoring was updated.

117

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 13:13

RECENTLY CHANGED:
ATTN LEAGUE!!!!!!
The official scoring changed a completion from McNabb to Brown and a fumble to Buckhalter for a TD, to a completed pass to Buckhalter for a TD.

� Donovan McNabb: from 222 passing yards to 257 passing yards.
� Donovan McNabb: from 1 passing TD to 2 passing TDs.
� Correll Buckhalter: from 1 own fumble recovery for 37 yards and a TD to 0 fumble recoveries.
� Correll Buckhalter: from 0 receptions to 1 reception for 55 yards and a TD.
* Reggie Brown: from 2 receptions for 38 yards to 1 reception for 18 yards

This does not change the outcome of any games it does however change these scores.

Original Scores:
Deepsnapper 120.04, Wiggs Supernova 72.66
Deepsnapper 120.04, Slackjawed Yokels 116.36
The Slickbrooks 184.24, Nerfherders 132.18
Cowboys Homer 139.70, Nerfherders 132.18

Adjusted Scores:
Deepsnapper 118.04, Wiggs Supernova 72.66
Deepsnapper 118.04, Slackjawed Yokels 116.36
The Slickbrooks 184.24, Nerfherders 137.58
Cowboys Homer 139.70, Nerfherders 137.58

This only makes Nerf and Slackjawed so much closer to another win. :(

118

Kyle @ the parents
ID: 417461123
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 21:03

Russell,
The scoring changes were not made by AOL last week. I am not sure if you are able to but if you are can you manually change them?

119

russelldl
ID: 5392129
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 10:19

If it is possible to do it, I will.

120

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 17:31

My team is officially sunk now. My only hope is that I can hold off the other teams point-wise the next two weeks. Right now all I can do is try to make the playoffs and stay in AAA. I dont see myself winning any games with Losman as my QB.

121

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 17:44

I'm only in the running points wise and due to a last minute switch on my part, my two starting running backs combined weren't able to outscore either RB I had on the bench.

I hate Marion Barber III, stupid TD vulcher.

122

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 11:11

Is there any chance Darrell Jackson will have one of those 30 point nights now that Hasslebeck is back? Otherwise I am going 0-2 this week after a nice 7-1 stretch.

123

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 11:43

Absolutely no chance Kyle, all of his passes are going to Branch.

I need a big night from my 3 starters I have left. I'm currently about 70 points out of the final play-off spot (points based) despite my 8-14 record. And unless I get 30+ points from them, I will finish the week 1-1 despite having the 2nd or 3rd highest total points for the week, typical for me this season.

124

BoNkA
ID: 4710291912
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 13:25

Hopefully GB has a big offensive game and Green and Driver can pull me back into one of my games at least. I guess it would help if I started my other QB, RB, and DEF this week.

What can I say. I just don't have a very good team after 3 starters were injured. Maybe I can play spoiler to some playoff hopefuls though :D

125

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 01:56

Ok, kicking myself BIG time here. I could have gone 2-0 with one roster move. I prolly wouldn't have started Johnson over Eli, but I would have started Glenn over Colston and maybe even McMicheal over Clark. These moves would have moved me into first place, Points and record! AHHHHH! All this after we (Valparaiso U) almost beat #8 Marquette.

On a side note we were discussing in the stands who would win in a game of 1 on 1, D-wade or Bryce Drew. They are both the schools best players in history. I have a feeling Bryce would have made a 3 at the end to win the game. And since SportsCenter only cares about Big East, ACC Basketball they won't show highlights from what could be one of the best games played this year in college basketball. It would have only been better if VU made the 3 to tie the game at the buzzer. SOO CLOSE. Ok that's the end of my rant sorry.

126

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 10:23

Wow, after reading Frick's post, and doing calculations, I thought that I didn't do that well this week. But my calculations were off, and I went 2-0 with the highest point total. That was a plesant surprise.

127

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 13:28

Kyle, youre killing me. I need you high scorers to win games and not compete with me for 7th and 8th! Now its too close to call. 6 of the top 8 could be the first seed. Basically, everyone who is 14-10 and has more points than me needs to go 2-0 this week.

128

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 14:19

RE:126 Electro: this might be the best comeback in fantasy sports history. A 4-10 start and you reel off 10 straight wins. While I want to beat you and win the league I'd like to see you go 2-0 this week and finish the season with 6 weeks of non losing. At least I won in week 5 against you.

RE:127 Nerf: I am killing myself with mismanagement. I would be in first right now if I knew how to manage a team. And If you look at the charts I am about to post I have the hardest SOS. First place with a #1 SOS would be impressive I think.

RE: This week Wow. If you were hoping for some clarity to arrive after this week it didn't. I don't know who is going to make the playoffs and who isn't. This is really one of those coming down to the last game/week leagues. Very competitive. I love it.
There are a few things that are for sure in regards to the playoffs. If your record is 11-13 or worse you are elimnated from a Top 6 spot mathematically. Also (almost) for certain is that Promize, Bonka and Wiggs are elimnated completely from the playoffs. The points they are back are almost impossible to come back from and in Wiggs case he needs to out score Nerf by 415 points per game played and hope that everyone else doesn't put up what they need to beat Nerf. Thanks for playing boys you were still very competitive and have made it interesting. Please don't be disheartened as you can play huge spoilers to playoff teams. Every team you play is a contender.
As for the race for the 7th and 8th place I would be stupid to say I have that locked up if I don't get a Top 6 spot, but with a 200 point lead on the 8th place team it seems all but logical that I will be competing in the postseason. I also believe that Deepsnapper and New York Titans are locks for playoff berths if they havn't clinched thier spots. I havn't looked at the tie breakers and situations yet. CowboysHomer, don't get too over confident but you also seem a lock due to your point total. That's all the analysis i have right now
I am gonna look to see what would happen is certain things happen and post it later.

129

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 14:34

Just to add to the confusion: There is a senario where we have 8 15-11 teams. Then this league in essence would be a points based league because we would have to pretty much elimnate all the records. Fun!

130

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 14:51

Sean Alexander returned in the proverbial nick of time; without him my team would have been 0-2 instead of 2-0 this week.
Electoman's streak has been phenomenal, and I am happy that I do not play him in week 13. I do believe that Electroman owes me a huge thank you for drafting Alexander instead of Tomlinson.

131

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 15:32

I don't know what to credit it to. The streak started the same weekend my son and daughter were born. Could be that, or just the fact that Palmer started playing like Palmer, CJ got his wish, and LT has had one of the most amazing stretches in the history of the NFL.
I do thank you Loki, and I can pretty much guess who everyone with the first pick in next years draft will take.

132

loki
ID: 510362018
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 20:37

Russell and league managers: The following was posted by Guru re post season roster moves:

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 12:47 Before I forget, please remember our rule for roster adds/drops during the playoffs:
Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Following the final regular season game, claiming/waiver priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

So, once the next freeze is done, playoff teams cannot add any QB, RB, WR, or team Def. Bear that in mind when making moves this coming week.

133

BoNkA
ID: 4710291912
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 11:27

Stinks, if I had started the correct people this week and not lost by .02 a few weeks ago, I could be in the playoff hunt. At least I wasn't completely blown out for the season. Too many injuries to key players for me.

134

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 15:12

This is it guys. It's the beginning of the Jay Cutler Era in Nerfherders' football!

But in reality it doesnt matter much what I do this week. I dont think I can change position on total points versus anyone vying for 7th or 8th, though beating Bandos would help my cause a little bit.

135

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 18:59

Ugghh! More points on my bench than in my lineup. Could actually cost me a playoff spot.

136

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 19:21

looks like I'm battling for 8th place.

137

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 19:34

I am a little confused going into the playoffs can I drop or add a QB, RB, WR or Team D? I have 2 players who are probably going to be riding the bench for thier team now on my team and I'd like to replace them.

138

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 21:04

From the RIFC rules. Don't know if it helps:
Thus, you cannot add or drop a QB, RB, WR, or team Def after the week #13 freeze, period. You can only drop someone else if that player was designated as "Probable" or better for week 13, and "Questionable" or lower at some point thereafter. If one of those players is dropped, he can only be replaced by a player fulfilling the same position. (LB and DB will be considered the same position for this purpose.)

139

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 21:37

With my QB and both RBs crapping the bed this week it looks like my extremely slim hopes of a play-off birth are dead.

Good luck to everyone who makes the play-offs.

140

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 13:38

Looks like I'll likely be 7th seed or possibly 8th, but I think I'm in. I've run the numbers and this what I have.

Assuming Steve Smith outscores Richard Marshall by more than 1 point:

The top three would be set:

1. Homer
2. Yokels
3. Electro
If Electro can get within 3 of Yokel's score he would be the #2 seed.

The two games still up in the air are Slickbrooks' games. Almost exactly the same situation: 2 players vs 1 and down by 15 and 18 respectively.

If slickbrooks wins both of his games:
4. NYT (16-10)
5. Slickbrooks (15-11)
6. deepsnapper (15-11)
7. Nerf (13-13)
8. Bandos (14-12)

If slickbrooks loses to deepsnapper but beats Bonka:
4. deepsnapper (16-10)
5. NYT (16-10)
6. Slickbrooks (14-12)
7. Nerfherders (13-13)
8. Bandos (14-12)

If slickbrooks loses to Bonka but beats deepsnapper:

4. NYT (16-10)
5. deepsnapper (15-11)
6. Slickbrooks (14-12)
7. Nerfherders (13-13)
8. Bandos (14-12)

If slickbrooks loses both games:

4. deepsnapper (16-10)
5. NYT (16-10)
6. PV (14-12)
7. Slickbrooks (13-13)
8. Nerfherders (13-13)
Two-team tiebreakers are head to head points, and PV went 2-0 vs Bandos.

So the final scenario is the only way PV can make it into the playoffs. If PV gets into a 3-way tiebreak for 6th, they fall out of that due to the points, and then fall out of the running for 7th and 8th due to points.

In a scenario where Bandos beats Homer, some things change but PV cannot make the playoffs at all.

142

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 14:39

Slack:2-0, Cowboys:1-1, and NYT:1-1-> Slack-1, NYT-2, and Cowboys-3. Any chance of Steve Smith being benched?

143

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 16:02

I don't know which of these synerios I like best. If I win both games I play NYT in the first round. If I lose to Bonka but beat DS or if i lose to DS and beat Bonka I play Electro. If I lose both I play Yokels. I would prefer to play NYT as a 5 seed.
I guess I'd prefer in this order
1. Win both- play NYT and winner of Homer-Bandos
2. Lose both- Play Yokels and winner of Elecro-PV
3. Lose one- Play Electro and winner of NYT-DS

I really don't want 3 to happen. Electro and his 12 game winning streak scares me. He's also been putting up beastlier and beastlier numbers. Granted I havn't done well against NYT, but noone really has, (look at his PA).

Well here's to Carolina winning 18-14 with 2 Westbrook TDs and 3 Carolina Def TDs and Kasay missing all the extra points! I think I'd win this week if that happened.

144

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 16:28

BTW the RIFC AA playoffs are shaping up to have an interesting finish if you arn't paying attention to the other leagues you play with.

145

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 18:04

What does it mean if I can get within 3 of Yokels score? Weekly or the whole season?

146

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 19:43

He has 154, so if you get 151 that gives you 302 to his 308, keeping you just ahead of him in total points. Im hoping that you do just that cuz I dont want to face you next week!

147

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 23:09

I'm watching two guys I have on the bench have great games, and I was on the fence about putting them in. ALways listen to the little man.

148

Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 00:41

It looks like scenario 4 is going to be put into play. That means I draw CowboysHomer as the 8th seed and PV makes the playoffs. Someone should check my math though. :)

149

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 10:08

Congrats to all the playoff teams, should be fun. Can't believe I made it with the slow start.
To those who didn't qualify, it was fun, and better luck next year.

150

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:20

Russell-What is the first tie breaker? I thought that it is head to head total points. Unless I am mistaken or if my math is wrong, I think that I should have finished ahead of Electro and DS.

151

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:24

Copied from the RIFC rules.
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

152

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:35

Electro:I believe that it is total points head to head. See post #146 in answer to one of your posts.

NYT vs. DS: 1 win each team. Total points NYT 260.24 and DS 254.82. NYT vs. Electro: 1 win each team. NYT 259.08 and Electro 255.34.

153

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:40

I was under the impression that head to head points only comes into play if there are only two teams tied. If more than two teams are tied, then its total points.

154

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:42

I think that was for the week. I finished 7 points behind him in total point. Head to head, I did not calculate. I went to the RIFC rules posted by Guru. The commish will have to rectify.

155

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:51

Or we could ask Guru to clarify.

156

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:08

It is hard to base it on head to head total points. You are ahead of me and DS. I am ahead of CH and SY. So, who goes where.

157

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:23

Whatever the decision, to advance or to win a team will have to go through you. The way your team has been playing you will be tough to beat. Good luck!!

158

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:31

Head-to-head is only for 2-way ties, and only uses wins. If one team beat the other team twice, that is the first tiebreaker. Otherwise, it reverts to the next tiebreaker, which is total points for the season.

For three-way (or more-way) ties, ignore the head-to-head tiebreaker.

159

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:32

From my understanding:

First tiebreak is H2H
Second tiebreak is Total Points For the Season (not vs an individual team)

160

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:47

Time for my self-pitying moment. If my team had scored 25 points over their season average rather than under, I would have made the play-offs with a 9W 17L season. I still wouldn't have won either of the games this week, but would have eeked into the 8th spot based on points. I had plenty of weeks where I left points on the bench, but that just shows how close these leagues are. 1 or 2 managerial decisions can have a huge impact. Congrat to all of the teams that made the play-offs and good luck. Hopefully my team can rally and do well in the "Toilet Bowl"

161

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:53

So, what is the playoff schedual?

162

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 13:04

Here's the bracket as I understand it.

1	CowboysHomer (16-10)

8	Nerfherders (13-13)


4	deepsnapper (16-10)

5	New York Titans (16-10)


3	Electro's Eagles (16-10)

6	PV Blasters (14-12)


2	Slackjawed Yokels (16-10)

7	The Slickbrooks (13-13)

163

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 13:44

Yay not in Electro's bracket! I got a shot at the championship! hehe.

164

Promize@Parents
ID: 31841217
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 15:19

Did you make a mistake on the playoffs?

Why didn't Bandos make it in... He finished 7th

165

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 16:32

check out post #140, has all the senarios

166

Promize@Parents
ID: 31841217
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 16:48

Awwh, nevermind, it was actually post #151 I didn't see

167

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 18:37

Can't believe I limped into and lucked into the playoffs.

There were more deserving teams than mine that didn't make it, sort of like how the winner of the NFC West will feel this year.

168

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 04:24

This week I see some matchups I actually like, and when I compare them to my oppenent, it makes me think that the second round is a possibility.
As my team name represents when the "Slickbrooks" play well my team does well. But it's not just the 2 RBs that I like this week.
RBs- "Slick" vs Cle and "Brook" @ Was: This just seems like 2 good matchups for RBs, and now that McNabb is hurt Westbrook is sure to see more attention (See last week: Eagles First drive).
(STEVEN A. SMITH VOICE) Now we all know that Cleveland is TERRIBLE. Well maybe not that bad but a good 100 yard game is just was Parker needs.
WR- Jackson @ Ari, Galloway vs. Atl, Glenn vs NO, Colston @ Dal.
I wish I could start Colston at TE. But I can't. I will start the first 3 and hope Colston is still out. That makes my decision alot easier. All 3 are good matchups.
TE- McMicheal vs NE
He has to do something sometime right?
DEF- Carolina vs NYG
I never like when my QB goes against my D but if Eli can get maybe 250 1TD 1 INT I'd be happy. "Fumbles" Barber can have a bad game too right? Crossing my fingers we see the same old Giants this week.
IDPs: Merriman vs Den
Shawne is scarier. Hopefully the rookie will be scared all day.

This is just and analysis of my team. Hopefully it turns out as planned. For me at least.

169

Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 11:41

Strange how things change. There was a scenario where I could have won the entire league and (obviously) one where I could not make the playoffs BASED ON THE LAST TWO GAMES! Wow! A very competitive league - congrats to those who made the playoffs and good luck.

Next time I'll be presceint enough to not leave 100+ points on the bench.

170

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 51046511
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 18:54

Kyle - odd how this turned out. We're playing each other in the playoffs in two leagues (and me with the 2nd seed in each and you the 7th...). And you're right it looks to be very close in this one - your guys look to have good matchups and mine not so much.

171

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 19:24

Just wondering, are we gonna start a new thread? This one is getting pretty long.

172

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 14:14

RE 171 I think the commish should set up a new thread for the playoffs
RE 170 Slackjawed I think the Fantasy Fanatics league is the only league I don't have Parker. You have no idea how each week I live and die by Parker and Eli. It always seems that I have at least 2 or 3 common threads on my teams. Last year it was Steve Smith and C-pep. This year Eli and Parker. I fall in love with a player and believe they are underrated. Parker is exactly that guy. The fact that Westbrook fell to me in this league still surprises me. Eli on the other hand has been disappointing. And I say this now before his game. I can't imagine how I'll feel if he plays poorly. #5 QB taken in our draft, he's ranked #11 out of QBs. (Ironicly I took Brad Johnson as the #25 QB and he is indeed ranked #25...)
AH rants...

173

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 16:35

Heh McNabb was taken 6 or 7 and he's still #3. He might end up 6 or 7. Too funny.

174

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 00:24

Well before the Sunday night game it looked like I'd be in the top half of scorers this week and end up facing the top scorer. After the Sunday I feel a little better. I am gonna check to see if any IDPs get scoring adjustments, but so far they've always been fairly accurate for me. 3 point victory. And this is a 2-7 matchup. Showing how even the league really is.

175

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 12:35

The curse of the first seed hits me doubly this week.. possibly. Here I get the upside of it, but in my other league I could easily lose as a first seed, down 16 with Chi-D and Grossman left.

So I wonder if invitational rules are set in stone. As they stood this year the first two seeds got moved up, so the playoff performance of those two teams did not matter. It looks like the first two seeds are out already but they still get moved up? I think I would like it better if it were the two championship teams and the highest seed left out. I dunno. When the 3-8 seeds have to win three in a row to move up while the 1-2 seeds get a free ride in the playoffs... just seems a little unfair looking at it right now, especially in this league when everyone is so close. We are playing for an invitation so let it be won in the playoffs.

176

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 13:43

I know Guru is the one who sends out the invites and maybe with a league this close he'll let the playoff decided who gets invited.
I'd say the 2 championship teams and the winner of the 2 semifinals losers (ala 3rd place game). This is all suggestion as it's Guru's call.

177

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 51046511
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:11

I may have gotten knocked out (scoring adjustments, please?), but I outscored every other playoff team by what looks to be 20 points. If only the Saints hadn't gotten that first down late in the game and Carney had hit a meaningless 40 yard field goal...

178

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 12:03

Wow, the top four seeds falling in the first round. It's a battle of the 5-8's now. Some really high scores too. I got really really lucky!

179

russelldl
ID: 5392129
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 15:37

re: 177
If anyone is aware of scoring adjustments that need to be made, let me know ASAP! Otherwise I'll leave it up to AOL (who seems to do it pretty well most of the time).
russelldl

180

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 15:58

Well, I must be the Oakland A's of this league. Great second half to get in playoffs, then get knocked off in the first round.

PV's IDP's really did well this week. Nice job.

181

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 21:34

Well, I thought last week I changed my week 15 roster after the Monday night game and got DJ out of my lineup. I guessed wrong. This managerial error better not cost me my game this week. Especially if Colston decides to go off. At least Electroman isn't facing me. Any 0 on my team would cost me against him.

182

Loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 12:19

Nerf-My last minute change from the Oak to Sea D is going to hurt as did Alexander's typical mediocre production. You look very strong with your RB and WR up against Ind's D.

183

Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 14:15

Yah I was watching that game not sure if I was going up against Alexander or not, but still rooting against him just in case. Good thing I wasnt going up against Gore!

184

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 10:58

At the risk of jinxing my chances this week, I've got to be happy with the Cinderella Blasters going into today's games.

Now, Kyle might be glad he's not going up against Electroman with the goose-egg for Jackson, but that was before Vick put up those numbers against the Cowgirls last night.

This could likely come down to the performance of tight ends and kickers.

185

Kyle on laptop
ID: 276301019
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 15:06

Well at risk of jinxing PV's chances, I have a feeling he is going win this week. It will take a MAJOR game from both Eli and Westbrook. I feel like I am going to get Terry Glenn's points at WR. With the rush of finals I wasn't able to get D-Jax out of the lineup, and Joey Galloway now has Tim Rattay throwing to him. I'll never say I am done until Monday around 11 (CST) and with last weeks comeback anything can happen.

186

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 11:27

Looks like its going to be #6 vs #8 for the championship - two teams that barely made the playoffs.

My WR are finally starting to play up to their draft position and Betts has been great as a late season pickup. But this week my IDP ruled. Dawkins is playing like a man possesed, single-handedly winning games for the Eagles. They gotta keep it going one more week!

187

Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 10:08

Nerfherders...

This past week would have been a great matchup for the championship between our teams, with a few percentage points difference.

Hopefully this week will be competitive as well.

Good luck!

188

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 13:22

Wow that would have been close! Agonizingly so since Henry had two dropped passes last night.

189

Electroman
ID: 44651412
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 10:45

Congrats Nerfherders. This was a fun year. What a competitive league. Go Eagles!!!

190

Nerfherders
ID: 42412622
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 17:52

Thanks! I had a great 4 weeks and got a little lucky too with the matchups. I had some really nice late season free agent pickups that saved my team, most notably Ladell Betts, who was probably the difference in many of my games down the stretch. Cutler wasnt too bad either. I look forward to testing myself against this forum's best next year.

Oh, and go Eagles!

191

PV in California
ID: 4911352214
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 21:57

I needed Vick to step up in the finals, but, alas, he threw up a stinker.
My solid RB situation couldn't save me from my anemic WR corp one last time.

Congrats, Nerfherder, coming from a #8 seed is a real accomplishment.

192

Promize
ID: 61039198
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 21:52

Funny, I didn't even know I was still having matchups each week in this league. Ended up winning the consolation tourney. Yay me!

193

Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Jan 08, 2007, 18:26

I was running some of my numbers for the season to see where I did well and where I didnt, what turning points there might have been. Nabbing Betts off the waiver wire seemed like the difference maker for me, and indeed, it turned out that way, but in a way I did not expect. My only recourse, assuming I found no other RB on the WW, would have been Maurice Hicks. The difference in wins and losses was nil until the final week of the regular season. I would have lost to Bandos in week 13 with Hicks in the lineup, and Bandos, not PV, would have made the playoffs. Bandos would have bowed out in round two, but I would have ended up playing Slickbrooks in the finals, and here again, I probably would have lost if Slickbrooks changes his mistake from the previous week and slots Colston in for Jackson at WR. I guess one good thing about is that I would have still made it to the finals with a return man as my #2 RB.

The other thing of note after running my numbers is that my combined starting team defense would have finished third behind only Baltimore and Chicago. I chose the wrong defense only 4 times and it only cost me 18 total points. So that strategy worked out well.

194

Kyle
ID: 52753312
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 02:29

Thanks Nerf. Letting me know I would have probably won the league if you would have only changed your roster choice. Well I think based on last year that you will be enjoying the splender of the big leagues, I hope to see you there in 2008.

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