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Subject: RIFC AA Regular Season Discussion III

Posted by: mjd - Sustainer [501381415] Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 22:22

Reposting this reminder about playoff rosters.

Trade deadline is Friday.

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 22:29

That's Friday at 11:30 PM EST.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 14:58

FYI
I did an FA pick up today (D Henderson) but it did not generate
an email notice. It is all fine in my lineup.

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 13:25

Great.
Games just started and Mcnair throws a 65 yard TD pass to Clayton.
Of course McNair is on one of my matchups and Clayton is on the other.
Where is my red challenge flag when I need it.....Im sure he stepped out on the Two or something.
Might be elimination day for me.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 14:31

Here we go again. Every week I get to play a team who has at lest 3 players just absolutely go nuts. Goats has done that already in the first half of game one and has about 100 points. Going to be a long day. My other matchup leads the league in points for! Looks like bad scheduling luck. Wish we hadn't switched Game 1 week 7 with week 10 now!!! ;)

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 15:21

QUESTION:

What is the definition of "pass defensed"? Is it when someone
has hand in the QB's face? or, when an IDP bats a pass away? or
both?

Ref. I feel your pain -- I am playing goats too...sheesh

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 15:57

pass deflected

twilson
ID: 953338
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 19:51

What constitutes a pass defensed is up to the scorer at each NFL stadium. It's not an official league stat, so it varies widely from stadium to stadium. In particular, the Philly scorer recorded 170 passes defensed last year. The next highest total was 93 in Miami. At the bottom end was New England, where the scorer counted only 36 passes defensed. So as you can see, there isn't really a true standard. It's supposed to be very similar to passes deflected, but it doesn't always work out that way.
(stats from Pro Football Prospectus 2006)

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 20:29

Toasted -- again.

My IDP's were back to "normal". Sigh. I needed them to be great!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 22:38

I pick up Henderson after his nice performance last week. Horn is
still out and they throw all day to some kid named Copper? Not
ONE pass even in Henderson's direction!

Sigh.

Oh, well, we'll have some fun in the #9-14 loser's bracket.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 12, 2006, 23:58

I out-thunk myself this week and went for the fences in the hot-hands isntead of some of my steady players. In the meantime, I left about 45 points on the bench. Fortunatley, it isn't going to matter as I still would have lost. I don't mind getting blown out, it's the close ones where my bench players would have won that really bother me. So this is a great week to have my lowest output of the season.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 11:20

I thought we might have a scoring error, but I don't see it mentioned in any other RIFC thread, so I could be wrong.

I watched Devin Hester score a TD against the Giants, that short FG attempt that he ran back for a 108 yd TD. I understand that he doesn't get the yardage, but per the rules "all players-whether offensive or defensive-will be awarded 6 points for any TD scored"

And in this thread post 193 under IDP scoring "TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)"

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 13:40

Overall

Game

Team

Pct

Tot

Avg

Tot

Strk

Skeepers�

0.9

2943.04

147.15

2375.88

286.04

The Treasonists�

0.75

3043

152.15

2604.68

333.18

2006 Vicious Goats�

0.65

2818.66

140.93

2441.22

364.88

TD Dragons�

0.6

2816.64

140.83

2582.66

305

Can't Beat The Refs�

0.6

2748.68

137.43

2673.5

203.28

twilson�

0.55

2500.96

125.05

2486.12

277.72

Muhahos�

0.5

2737.92

136.9

2621.22

242.04

Master of My Domain�

0.5

2614.32

130.72

2694.92

252.76

Peter N.�

0.5

2602

130.1

2687.78

211.96

JUDY CATS�

0.45

2335.8

116.79

2630.86

234.2

weykool�

0.35

2460

123

2551.58

214.4

mjd's Upstate Bombers�

0.25

2146.84

107.34

2546.1

204.74

smallwhirled�

0.2

2033.6

101.68

2530.34

270.56

Astade�

0.2

2278

113.9

2652.6

243.48

Total

140

0.5

36079.46

128.86

36079.46

�

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 13:42

Re 11

Hester should get 6 points for the FG return for a TD.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 14:16

Weykool's scores are adjusted for the Hester TD. AOL says they'll be updated within an hour.

Unfortunately, for weykool, this does not change his record this week. In fact, it makes my margin of victory over him .22 points. I was totally aware how close this would be last night. Plus, his QB was Delhomme, who knelt down to run out the clock on the last 2 plays for a -.20 points.

I was just glad that Tampa Bay ran out of downs before Peppers had a chance to get another sack.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 14:43

i can not believe i went 1-1 this week i figured i would have gone 0-2 my luck is still holding i guess. the pts range this week is really high from 364 to 203.

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:45

What about the Bears Team defense? Do they get any points for the missed FG return? I was counting on a couple of those when I drafted them real high.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 23:01

Sorry, no can do T:

Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6 (excludes TDs on kick or punt returns)
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 defensive points allowed 7
7-13 defensive points allowed 4
14-20 defensive points allowed 1
21-27 defensive points allowed 0
28-34 defensive points allowed -1
35+ defensive points allowed -4
Defensive points allowed exclude TDs scored by the opposing special teams or the opposing defense (i.e., TDs on turnovers, kick/punt returns, or blocked kicks)

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 15:35

I just knew that my team was already in trouble when Clinton Portis fell to me because of his preseason shoulder injury as the last pick in the first round of the draft. Then, I read some article last week that he was whining about something and almost benched his sorry butt. But once again, I went against my gut and got burned.

It makes me very happy to dump this guy since he's been put on IR. I hate to say never, but I'm never going to have him on a roster of mine again.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 15:42

Dumped Troy "Hands of Stone" Williamson, too.

Buyer beware, he leads the NFL with 9 dropped passes.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 11:45

The Elias Sports Bureau reviewed film of the Redskins-Eagles game and changed the ruling on a TD by Correll Buckhalter from a 37 yard Offensive Fumble Recovery TD (off of a reception and fumble by Reggie Brown) to a 55 yard passing TD from Donovan McNabb. The following stats have changed as a result:

� Donovan McNabb: from 222 passing yards to 257 passing yards.
� Donovan McNabb: from 1 passing TD to 2 passing TDs.
� Correll Buckhalter: from 1 own fumble recovery for 37 yards and a TD to 0 fumble recoveries.
� Correll Buckhalter: from 0 receptions to 1 reception for 55 yards and a TD.
* Reggie Brown: from 2 receptions for 38 yards to 1 reception for 18 yards

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 12:50

Easy enough to do. It doesn't change any outcomes of gams, just point totals. I'm going to wait to see if AOL adjusts it before I do anything.

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 12:53

I'm the same situation and can't recall this happening this late in the week before so I don't know if there is precedent. That's what I'm doing too mjd.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 13:53

Yahoo! has automatically made this change.

CBS has said they only make it automatically if the change is made on Tuesday--otherwise they will tell you what the change should be so you can make it manually.

AOL: My guess is that since it hasn't been done already, we will have to automatically change this as we had to do with Hester's MFG return for a TD.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 15:14

I'm going to give AOL another 24 hours before I make any changes.

Buckholder is a FA, so no change there.

VP has McNabb and I'm pretty sure he was starting.

As for Reggie Brown: he's on Judy's roster, but I can't recall if he was in her lineup or on her bench.

When looking at the weekly results it shows the scores for the entire roster and does not specify starter or bench.

TD
Sustainer
ID: 036331011
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 17:43

mjd,

If you go to league/schedule and then select week 10, it will show you the lineup and results of all teams. Reggie Brown was in Judy's lineup for both her matchups.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 18:13

Thanks,TD, I thought I saw it somewhere before.

I was looking under the scoring dropdown.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 13:34

Manual scoring changes made, but I don't see it reflected in the "total points for" on the standings page yet. I'll keep an eye on that as we approach the playoffs and possible tiebreaker situations.

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 16:25

Like I need to LOSE more points. -- Thanks guys -- tee hee...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 16:27

I was debating on who to bench between Brown and Taylor. Chose the wrong one and boy did it cost me!!! Negative points! I'd hvae been better off staring osmeone who didn't even play.

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 16:45

Anybody else having trouble with live scoring? i tried to reboot
it and now i get nothing.

Poor Donovan -- what exactly was the injury -- I missed the
disagnosis except out for the year/12 months?

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 17:04

Still cannot load live scoring -- can someone tell me how my
match with Peter is going?

i only have one guy left to play (Morris), but I woudl like to know
my points so far.

Thanks.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 18:05

looks like i outsmarted myself again by benching the dallas DEF. UGH!!!

mcnabb torn right acl.

no issues with live scoring. not sure if it is java or what but working as good as always for me. Judy you are up 110-66 over peter n right now. Losing to skeepers 123-90 or so.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 18:06

Holy Smokes!

sw on pace to upset both VP and treasonists. Way up on both.

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 18:13

Thanks ref. I am at my Dad's and his T-line is really slow today.
I think live scoring must be timing out. I should be able to get it
at home later.

I heard that Colston hurt his ankle in the first Q and did not
return (hence the bagel). Anyone know any details? Fortunately
I activated Devery henderson and he did well up until live
scoring quit on me.

Thanks.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 18:36

I watched the game. He twsted it early. They said he was going to return but don't remember seeing him again.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 20:16

I finally got onto Live scoring. Cadillac (benched by me) FINALLY
came through...15.60 - won't change anything, but I might even
think about starting him again someday...

Poor Donovan... like the Eagles need this as they sink lower and
lower...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 10:15

I need about 18 points from Eli tonight to go 2-0 this week. Doable, but definitely pushing it. If I would just stick to my guys I'd be ok. Just don't have a lot of faith in most of them.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 13:11

Are free agents now frozen until after the waiver wire goes through
on Weds?

Also, we only need to set the Thursday players for the Thursday
games, and we can wait until Sunday for the others?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 19:38

Claims are processed Wednesday at noon. All unclaimed FA are available first come, first served at 1PM Wednesday.

Players are frozen 5 minutes before kickoff of THEIR game.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 19:40

Judy, that's yes and yes

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 10:26

So the drop add involving Garcia (on Sunday afternoon) is invalid.
Right?

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 12:36

I think my #1 game vs Master was left off this week's schedule.
Can someone please check?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 12:45

Overall

Game

Team

Pct

Tot

Avg

Tot

Strk

Skeepers�

0.91

3269.04

148.59

2559.62

326

2006 Vicious Goats�

0.68

3096.38

140.74

2654.48

277.72

The Treasonists�

0.68

3281.46

149.16

2915.36

238.46

TD Dragons�

0.64

3211.24

145.97

2781.4

394.6

Can't Beat The Refs�

0.59

3000.48

136.39

2917.26

251.8

twilson�

0.59

2766.2

125.74

2694.3

265.24

Master of My Domain�

0.5

2829.2

128.6

2961.3

204.08

Muhahos�

0.46

2937.84

133.54

2920.56

199.92

Peter N.�

0.46

2799.56

127.25

3001.44

197.56

JUDY CATS�

0.46

2537.62

115.35

2892.64

215.82

weykool�

0.32

2640.56

120.03

2847.2

168.56

mjd's Upstate Bombers�

0.27

2369.12

107.69

2784.3

222.28

smallwhirled�

0.27

2366.44

107.57

2757.88

332.84

Astade�

0.18

2490.6

113.21

2908

212.6

Total

154

0.5

39595.74

128.56

39595.74

�

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 13:02

Judy, it's the first game at the top. You can also look at your team's schedule which shows you facing Master.

Two weeks (four games) left.

Playoff position are the top 6 in our list. The 7th and 8th teams are flip-flopped based on points, but Peter N is just out of 8th with about 30 points. Master needs wins to supplant twilson (two out) or hold off Peter in points. Judy needs to win out and get very lucky to have a chance. Not sure if it is mathematically possible or not. Will check on that stuff next week.

Kudos to sw, you has won four straight now to climb out of the celler and is less than 3 points from advancing another spot. He had the 2nd highest team score last week. TD is killing and got the high score for the year I believe.

There are some key matchups, but mainly jockeying for seeds. The top 4 appear to be in and I think it would even be tough to knock the 5th team (me) out--even though I gotta face the #1 team and a team that needs points to make it (peter n). Because of points, twilson probably needs to win another game or maybe even two to assure his spot. Muhahos has struggled mightily lately, scoring just 99 points and losing by 3 last week in one of his games to Master. He plays Astade who has fallen to last place with his sixth straight loss. But also needs a win against Goats who has won four straight.

sw faces TD and Pete. Will be tough to continue his streak given TDs remarkable play and Pete's desperate need of points. Could be playing spoiler, but to be honest, wins and losses aren't as important as points to Pete now.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 13:08

Judy does hav e amathematical chance to make the playoffs. Needs to win out and have my team or twilson to lose all four. Also needs the other teams ahead of her to lose almost all of their games.

Muhahos might actually be able to back into the playoffs based on points. If you take that into consideration and no major unexpected outcomes then it comes down to Pete and Master to the final playoff spot. Still things can happen to throw wrenches in that!

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 13:18

oops, I missed it because it was highlighted...

The best I can do is 14-10 and with my tendency to NOT score
points, I suspect that I am "out". But I will go for that 14-10
record... Brady's 1.34 two weeks ago cost me two wins...

is there a loser's bracket where those of us at the bottom can go
for some more?

Like this:
FIRST WEEK of PLAYOFFS
Bye for 9 and 10, (or they can play each other for practice...)
14 v 11 (winner to get 10),
13 v 12 (winner to get 9)

THE NEXT WEEK
9 and 10 v previous winners

FINAL WEEK:
last two standing!

Otherwise I'll just root for TD (whom I beat twice! LUCK!)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 15:29

Playoff roster limitations:Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions willbe locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later. Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable. Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

I'm sure we will do it however RIFC is doing it. Play for fun? Barring a precedent, what if we simply went 9 v 12 and 10 v 11 and give something for team 13 and 14 to strive for the last two weeks? They'd finish a week early. Maybe 13 can play 14 that first week to try and stay out of the basement? Just thoughts. I don't care to be honest.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 15:30

QUESTION:

On the waiver/claims stuff. I have the 11th pick, what if all my
wishes in the A list are gone already. Does it automatically go to
the B list?

Should I put all my requests into the A list with that "delete" player
and then use the B list to designate a second "delete" player?

I am planning on 3 "deletes".

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 19:23

I'm not sure I understand the question, Judy.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 19:31

It's OK. TD explained it to me, so I fixed it up so it will work the
way I want it to.

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Nov 23, 2006, 10:32

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE.

MAY ALL YOUR PLAYERS SCORE IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Nov 25, 2006, 11:05

I have Colston who practiced Thursday full, but not Fri. Where can
I go (website) on Sunday to find out if he is playing in the game?
When is this usually announced by the team?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sat, Nov 25, 2006, 23:48

I usually suffer through ESPN's pregame show to get the latest injury updates from Chris Mortensen. Morts reports are updated in the last hour of the show.

Colston is going to be a dreaded game time decision. I have him in 2 Yahoo leagues and at this time plan not to start him, but that could change.

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 26, 2006, 13:10

D___ I missed by 3 minutes of setting my lineup without
Colston. I was out from 10 am on.

I DO have Henderson and Copper and already have 13.60 from
Henderson!

(Thank goodness!)

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Nov 26, 2006, 13:34

Judy, you're looking more like a Saint's fan every week:-)

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Nov 26, 2006, 14:34

Well, the Eagles are surely not going anywhere...

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 09:26

Scoring question:
Why did Vince Young get credited with the fumble that
LenDale White dropped?
Also, Fujita had a sack on Vick in the first half. It wasn't a
running play and he didn't get back to the line of scrimmage.

Hmmm -- I only need a few more points...

The timing error (3 minutes!) on benching Colston hurt me; my
only sub was Reggie Brown and he had enough points to help
me in one game...

sigh

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 13:36

Judy, anytime an exchange from the QB to a RB is fumbled, the QB gets charged with it.

As to the Fujita play, if it's not changed by AOL you have the option to challenge. The rule is as follows:

"During the regular season:
Scoring errors (for whatever reason) will be corrected whenever they are called to the attention of the Commissioner. This includes those due to scoring changes announced by the NFL after the initial stats are released.

However, the results of any head-to-head game will not be changed, regardless of a subsequent scoring change, unless the score is challenged prior to midnight (Pacific time) on the Saturday following that game week. A challenge must be posted by a manager in the current RIFC discussion thread at the RotoGuru forum.

In the event that a winner-changing challenge is posted by the deadline, then the manager of the opposing team will be given until midnight (Pacific time) on Monday (i.e., 48 hours later) to post any additional scoring challenge for that game. If that second challenge is upheld and it restores the original winner of the game in question, then the game result shall stand as originally posted.

The only exception is following the final week of the regular season. At midnight (Pacific time) on the Wednesday following the final regular season game, all challenges must be posted. No challenge filed after that time will impact any regular season result. However, if a late challenge causes a changed game result, the manager of the new losing team will have 24 hours to post an additional challenge.

Comments:
1. You have until the end of Saturday to challenge the result of your game. If you find a scoring error that changes a game result and it is posted before the Saturday night deadline, then the opposing manager gets until Monday to check for any additional errors.

2. If a scoring error is noticed after the related Saturday deadline, the fantasy points will still be corrected, but the result of the game (winner and loser) will not be changed. The points could still come into play for playoff seeding.

3. The drop dead date is midnight on the Wednesday following the final regular season game.

Playoffs
A scoring challenge must be posted by midnight Wednesday. The losing team will have an additional 24 hours to respond to the challenge."

The official stats of that game and every play can be found at NFL.com->scores-> gamebook of any game

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 15:20

Play-by-Play

1-7-NO7 (2:30) M.Vick left tackle to NO 8 for -1 yards (S.Fujita).

I remember the play and was looking for it to come up in the live scoring. Not sure why it wasn't officially ruled a sack.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 15:44

Ok, pending tonight's tight game with wykool, I might put a
challenge on that sack.

Will let you know...

It's Alexander v Kampman (sore groin). I think Alexander will win
out, but we shall see!

Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 15:52

Judy, it will have to be changed officially in the NFL gamebook. The play by play is not the official record. I wouldn't be surprised to see it changed, but I wouldn't have my hopes too high either.

boikin
ID: 59831214
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 16:02

Question: FA are frozen after the last regular season game so there is no WW after the final week. as i do not see myself making to many moves i guess it does not matter too much.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 17:38

Re: 59

If it was a designed running play, as many of Vick's runs are, perhaps it wasn't a sack but a running play with a QB. Perhaps since he didn't drop back like a pass, they don't count it as a sack? Just a thought.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 27, 2006, 20:26

OK.

It was my fault, I should have put Colston on the bench until he
was cleared to play -- that way I could have had plenty of time to
add R Brown (6.9 pts) since he was a later game (He was my only
WR on the bench.) I am STILL learning! I'll be smarter next year!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 15:00

Overall

Game

Team

Pct

Tot

Avg

Tot

Strk

Skeepers�

0.92

3639.96

151.67

2810.34

370.92

2006 Vicious Goats�

0.71

3424.42

142.68

2926.44

328.04

The Treasonists�

0.67

3561.62

148.4

3202.18

280.16

TD Dragons�

0.63

3546.36

147.77

3040.32

335.12

twilson�

0.63

3116.68

129.86

2998.24

350.48

Can't Beat The Refs�

0.58

3283.92

136.83

3220.98

283.44

Master of My Domain�

0.54

3101.88

129.25

3190.64

272.68

Muhahos�

0.46

3236.36

134.85

3193.58

298.52

Peter N.�

0.46

3036.08

126.5

3226.84

236.52

JUDY CATS�

0.42

2763

115.13

3151.68

225.38

weykool�

0.33

2885.96

120.25

3118.84

245.4

mjd's Upstate Bombers�

0.25

2592.28

108.01

3064.42

223.16

smallwhirled�

0.25

2533.8

105.58

3043.7

167.36

Astade�

0.17

2708.6

112.86

3242.72

218

Total

168

0.5

43430.92

129.26

43430.92

�

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 15:06

Top 8 look pretty good, but Pete could still sneak in there by scoring more than 32.5 more than Master in each of his two games. Master could still mathematiclaly finish in the top 6 and still keep Pete out that way as well. The seeding from #2-#6 can still change a great deal. twilson could still mathematiclaly be knocked out of the playoffs I believe as well and he has just 15 more points than Master--though that would take a LOT to do and would have to look at who he plays to see what kind of chance that even has of happeneing. Pete really hurt himself by not scorng more points last week--but he still has a legitimate chance.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 16:45

Per Guru RE: Consolation bracket

We start with the 6 non-playoff teams seeded based on W/L. For the second round, those 3 winners plus the highest scoring loser advance to the next round, with the highest scoring loser playing the top seed, unless those teams already met in the first round.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 16:49

This week's schedule:

1 Master of My Domain Can't Beat The Refs
1 Skeepers The Treasonists
1 mjd's Upstate Bombers Peter N.
1 smallwhirled twilson
1 TD Dragons 2006 Vicious Goats
1 weykool Muhahos
1 Astade JUDY CATS
2 Master of My Domain Skeepers
2 mjd's Upstate Bombers smallwhirled
2 TD Dragons weykool
2 Astade Can't Beat The Refs
2 The Treasonists Peter N.
2 twilson 2006 Vicious Goats
2 Muhahos JUDY CATS

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 17:02

Looking at the schedule, here is what would have to happen to change the top 8 playoff teams.

twilson and master could be ousted--though they both control their own destinies based on points. If they score enough--win or lose--they are in.

Based on points alone--I am in--even if I lose both--if I tie--I have the tiebreaker there as well in points (since we'd plit H2H).

Master plays Ref/Skeepers
twilson plays sw/goats

If master wins both and twilson loses both and pete outscores twilson by around 40 per game he can get in. If master wins both and I lose both, pete is out. Otherwise the earlier scenario holds that Pete just has to top Master by like 32.8 per game or so. Not probable but possible.

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 18:22

Yahoo -- a loser's playoff!

I am ready! (already...)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 20:12

From Rotoworld:

Donald Driver's official stats from Monday night's game will be changed. He will be awarded a seven-yard catch that was given to Ahman Green.

Driver will finish with three catches for 89 yards and a score.

twilson
ID: 953338
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 12:23

I would like to make a transaction, but it currently says that the player is locked, even though he is a linebacker.

I would like to add Caleb Miller, LB CIN and release Derrick Burgess, DL OAK.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 12:45

After 1 PM you can pick up free agents until that player's next game time freeze.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 12:52

I got the E-mail yesterday about Add/drop rules for the playoffs.

A little harsh for the consolations teams:

"You made your sucky team now live with it".

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 13:15

RE: 71 GB score adjusted for Driver's extra yardage.

RE: 72 This week works like every other week, except it's the last week. After this week's games, the playoff roster restrictions take place. Just trying to give everyone a heads up to get your rosters ready this week for the post season. Sorry for any confusion.

I sent email reminders last night in case someone doesn't check in here. Smallwhirled's was returned "mailbox unavailable".

Funny, Weykool. I can't disagree with that. As my grandfather used to say to someone with misbehaving kids, "You made 'em, they're your Frankensteins."

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 14:43

mjd: CBS fixed them automatcially because it was found on Tuesday. Here is what the stats should be.
A. Green RB 44 RuYd, RuTD (5), 39 ReYd
D. Driver WR 89 ReYd, ReTD (48)

Please couble check to see if this is what AOL has to be sure you didn't double dip in case they fixed them automatically as well.

I'm at least happy that I was able to get Sammy Morris now that Brown is going to be out for an extended amount of time. I needed him badly as I was down to two RBs and Henry didn't do much last week and no insurance for an injury.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 16:07

AOL never corrected it. AOL only allows for me to change the totals, not the individual stats.

I adjusted the scores on both teams. Thanks, Ref.

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Nov 29, 2006, 22:45

Wow mjd, it seems you turn your lineup over each week! I'll bet
you hold the record for most add/drops!

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 00:10

I can't find the right formula this year. Every move I make seems to be the wrong one. I've dropped guys the week before they exploded. Just ask Ref and smallwhirled. I've made poor management decisions and left a ton of points on my bench. You need a certain element of luck in this game and I've had none. Very frustrating considering all the time and effort I've invested in this league, but it's been fun and gratifying to commish this league.

Oh well, there's always next year. I kinda wish that this was a keeper league, because I really believe I could turn this team into a winner.

I drafted last and failed to do what it takes to overcome that and have a successful season.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 18:46

There are 2 managers who have not visited the game website in 10 days. One has 2 DL, neither will play this week.

Come on, people, don't quit on us now.

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 08:12

I had no clue there was a game last night. Luckily, none of my teams had any of those players.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 10:32

I decided to bench Henry yesterday after I had already benched Edwards. Looks lik at least the benching Henry paid off. Was going to start TJ against that Balt D regardless and he did well. Right now I am actually starting Wade against Indy. Still might change that up but have no idea what is going on with Braylon Edwards andthe Browns right now. I seem to be in the playoffs regardless, so doesn't matter too much. Suppose I might be able to move up (or down) a seed or so though.

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 11:13

re: last night's game.
When the games are only on NFL network no one publicizes it. I
think there is one every Thursday from now on as well. And there
are some Saturdays that are only on NFL network. It stinks!
Worse, I had to pick my W/L pool list yesterday for the whole NFL
card. Fortunately, most games seem to be obvious W/L wise,
although Philly might surprise Carolina...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 12:02

http://iwantnflnetwork.com/

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 12:11

I have Comcast Basic plus BUT I needed to subscribe to their digital
packages to get NFL network.
I finally bit the bullet and got it yesterday -- It gives me National
Geographic and other channels I wanted to watch anyway. For
now, it is only $7 more per month -- who knows what it will go to
after the year promo is over...

But still, the local paper didn't really promote the game and
sometimes I don't get to the paper until 10 at night!

boikin
ID: 41745118
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 01:25

i had not clue about the game either i am watching SC friday morning and they are talking about the game and i am like did they play it on playstation.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 12:27

smallwhired does not have an active DL. If he fails to add one by 1 PM I will trade Berry (IR) for the highest average DL who is healthy

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 13:02

Thanks, smallwhirled, I want to beat you fair and square.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 13:31

sw has been having problems getting into the site. I wasn't around last weekend when he was at a diff computer and his cookies wouldn't allow it and Pete didn't know I guess. This time I was around but he managed to get in. It wasn't cookies this time.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 13:41

Thanks, Ref, I hate computer/site problems. Especially frustrating when you're unsure where the problem lies. AOL isn't the worst site, but it's far from the best.

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 16:09

ATTABOY! REGGIE (BUSH)!!!

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 16:49

Looks like Bush kicked Gore's butt again.
Who does he think he is LT?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 17:46

MAN OH MAN!

Again, I leave an ungodly amount of points on the bench.

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 17:54

ALMOST,

LT HAD 41.90 IN WEEK 10, BUSH HAS 41.20

VINCE DID WELL TOO, BUT I SAT HIM...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 18:06

Just noticed that Pete is making a huge push for the playoffs. With his points and the players he has yet to go compared to his competition--he's sitting pretty. Still a lot of football to be played though.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 21:52

What's my idiot kicker doing, running on 4th down and no time on the clock. Only to kick the FG on the next play, then limp off the field.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 21:58

Hey mjd,

it is a new wrinkle in your never ending season! What else is left to
happen to your team?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 22:06

Hey at least your kicker picked up some extra points!!! Just better hope he's able to kcik again. Doesn't look good though.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 22:07

AOL is not showing any yards for Elam. Surely, it is setup for Kickers to gain rushing yards.

100

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 22:20

It is showing now. About a 40 min delay. ;)

101

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 23:49

Playoffs are looking a little clearer. Pete has put himself in position to make it. He still has Keyshawn tomorrow. Twilson was horrible this week, but still makes the playoffs unless Master wins both of his games. Unofficially, he'll need 36.3 or so to beat me--less to beat Skeepers, but must win them both or twilson is in. He can still get in if he scores enough.

Odds are that Smith won't score that many points so it comes down to Master vs. Pete in points.

Coming into the week 65.8 pts ahead (32.9 per game).

Right now unofficially:
Pete has 139.28 x 2 = 278.56
Master has 102.48 x 2 = 204.96

Difference is 73.6
Subtract the 65.8 and Pete is 7.8 points ahead going into the final game. If the stats hold (and they will probably change a smidge) Steve Smith must outscore Keyshawn Johnson by 7.8 to tie.

102

smallwhirled
ID: 1810523016
Sun, Dec 03, 2006, 23:51

Yeah, sorry about that last week. I could not find a link to get to my team to set it up. I tried for a while, but couldn't get in, and nobody was around to help so I got screwed.

It was close, but you should get me, mjd. If Edge got at least 1 of Shipp's 2 TD, or if I had started Dillon over Addai, it would have been much closer.

I left quite a lot sitting on my bench this week that kinda hurt.

103

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 12:31

RE: 101

After adjustments
Pete has 142.28 (+3x2) +6
Master has 101.48 (-1x2) -2
Difference now is 7.8+8, so S. Smith must outscore K. Johnson tonight by 15.8 points for Master to make the playoffs over Peter N. OR Master must win both games (currently 37.2 behind me with no players and 9.7 behind skeepers with no players) to knock out twilson as he would get 6th place.

104

The Treasonists
Donor
ID: 171572711
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 14:13

so S. Smith must outscore K. Johnson tonight by 15.8 points for Master to make the playoffs

Is that for both games? So S. Smith needs +7.9 points per game for Master to advance?

Looks like it's going down to the 4th quarter. Good luck to all.

105

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 15:22

It's 15.8 TOTAL points, I guess. So he Steve Smith must outscore K. Johnson by 7.9 for him to advance I guess. It's very doable no doubt, but Pete needs a big game from Keyshawn since Smith seems to surely get in the end zone at least once.

106

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 15:27

I have 6 going tonight (Eagles) and they will determine my
consolation seeding.

We shall see...I tried doing the math and then decided to wait it
out!

107

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 15:27

KJ is averaging 8.17 for the year but had just 3.8 last week.

SS is averaging 16.45 but had just 9.8 last week. So if they both hit their yearly average, and all the other scores stay the same, Master would make the playoffs by about a half point. If they both hit the same score as last week, Pete would advance by about 3 points or so.

108

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 17:14

Another reminder starting after tonight's game starts...

The only permissible transactions are those
which involve picking up a kicker, TE, or IDP, and only by teams that are still active in the championship playoffs.

mjd has some things going on and I'll be setting up the playoff matchups and probably will be the one setting up the new WW order for the playoff teams needing a player at one of those three positions.

109

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 17:30

Also, following the final regular season game, claiming/waiver priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

110

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 20:59

SO KJ couldn't keep his feet in bounds for a TD then the next play SS gets the TD. Good Luck for Master there!

111

Peter N.
ID: 581018320
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 22:16

Keyshawn Johnson TD at the end of the 1st half now makes for an interesting 2nd half. With everything my team has been through, I'd take sneaking into the playoffs.

112

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 22:18

yeah pete and I have been talking via AIM and he was down 1 point (per game) and with that last second 1 yd td catch, Pete is now up 5.1 (per game) at the half. Remember though, not only is SS the #1 target, he's also a return man which will give him some easy points.

113

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 22:56

LOL KJ holding penalty just cost SS some yards!

Also of note that Skeepers had lost just two games all year and is going to lose two this week alone.

Update: Looks like Pete is 6.2 points (x2) ahead of Master now. I still like Master's chances right now. KJ needs to get some more chances as SS is going to get his.

114

Astade
ID: 57544126
Mon, Dec 04, 2006, 23:53

nice comeback Judy.

115

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 00:12

Looks like unofficially, Pete is going to win by 6.9 x2 or 13.8 points.

Pete scored 154.76 this week (even with a hurt Troy Polamalu in his lineup--should have scored at least 5 points more)
Master scored 114.88

So huge comeback assuming the numbers hold.

Speaking of comebacks, that late INT by the Eagles D gave Judy an unofficial .06 win--though with the IDPs in the lineup, that could easily change. We've had that happen to us already this year when wins were changed the next morning.

116

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 00:20

A 0.3 loss!

AAAAACK!

117

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 00:24

At least I won my weekly W/L pool. 2nd time this season...

118

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 00:34

Judy you were AHEAD by .06 after the game ended. But already it has amended. Now you're ahead by 3.2 points.

119

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 07:42

7:40 am Now I am up by 1.2

There were no stats in the paper this am, but I was hoping for a
Dawk PD for the Lito interception...They seem to have added a .5
Cole tackle and 2 Dawk tackles.

I hope it stands up!

120

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:25

Overall

Game

Team

Pct

Tot

Avg

Tot

Strk

Skeepers�

0.85

3860.92

148.5

3086.42

222.36

2006 Vicious Goats�

0.69

3670.1

141.16

3156.78

244.28

The Treasonists�

0.69

3884.02

149.39

3468.14

322.4

TD Dragons�

0.65

3822.68

147.03

3287.44

276.32

Can't Beat The Refs�

0.62

3565.12

137.12

3453.46

281.2

twilson�

0.58

3301.04

126.96

3236.88

184.36

Master of My Domain�

0.54

3331.64

128.14

3442.42

229.76

Muhahos�

0.5

3502.44

134.71

3439.76

266.08

JUDY CATS�

0.42

3004

115.54

3403.02

241

Peter N.�

0.42

3345.64

128.68

3549.52

309.56

weykool�

0.31

3135.92

120.61

3390.74

249.96

mjd's Upstate Bombers�

0.31

2907.14

111.81

3335.7

314.86

smallwhirled�

0.27

2766.8

106.42

3289.26

233

Astade�

0.15

2945.2

113.28

3503.12

L10

236.6

Total

182

0.5

47042.66

129.24

47042.66

�

121

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:36

Ok the results are IN.

Do Muhahos and Peter get into the main playoff because they have
the most points of the bottom 8?

If so, the conso playoff picture would be:
Master v astade
Judy v smallwhirled
weykool v mjd

??

122

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:39

Unless there are any adjustments, here are the playoff matchups and seedings:

#1 Skeepers 22-4 3860.92 vs. #8 Peter N 11-15 3345.64
#2 Vicious Goats* 18-8 3670.1 vs. #7 Muhahos 13-13 3502.44
#3 The Treasonists 18-8 3884.02 vs. #6 TWilson 15-11 3301.04
#4 TD Dragons 17-9 3822.68 vs. #5 Can't Beat The Refs 16-10 3565.12

*Goats won the higher seed with a 2-0 H2H Record against Treasonist

Consolation Tourney

#1 Master of My Domain 14-12 3331.64 vs. #6 Astade 4-22 2945.2
#2 JUDY CATS 11-15 3004 vs. #5 smallwhirled 7-19 2768.8
#3 weykool 8-18 3135.92 vs. #4 mjd's Upstate Bombers 8-18 2907.14

I will set these matchups shortly. The WW will be reset IN ORDER OF SEEDING for the TOP 8 TEAMS ONLY! The top 8 teams may ONLY PICKUP A TE/K/IDP or it will be reversed and we get to publicly ridicule you! ;)

123

VP.
ID: 39943237
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:18

Ugh I'm so bitter.

I blame smallwhirled for taking over the league doormat just in time to stomp me <_<

124

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:28

Yeh, but he did it at the halfway point, so we all got a chance to
suffer! fair is fair, even if it doesn't seem so.

125

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:53

The Brackets are set up and I've got them listed on the league home page. The Consolation bracket will be re-seeded with the three winners and the highest scoring loser playing the highest scoring winner. The Championship brackets are static (no-reseeding).

126

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 13:33

I was able to reset the WW order and not include anyone not in the championship bracket. This should take care of any problems with the WW issues as far as that would go in following weeks.

127

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 15:10

Consolation. All kinds of twists in this matchup. But the loser with the highest score will play the winner of Master/astade game as I stated before with the reseeding UNLESS it is Master or Astade. In that case, in order to prevent them from having a rematch we will reseed it again and use the team with the highest points for the week to play that team. If it's still the same matchup, then we will assign the #2 team for the week I suppose.

128

Astade
ID: 57544126
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 22:40

I don't like hearing "consolation" and "Astade" in the same sentence. Horrible end to the season for me....10 consecutive losses!

Around mid-season, I thought I had turned the corner and would finish in the middle of the pack.

It's convenient, but I blame getting a job in Nov (11/6/06 to be exact) to be the primary cause. j/k.

Congrats to Skeepers for a dominating regular season ('til the last week).

129

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 01:59

Just read the last 2 days of this thread and you people crack me up.

Thanks to Ref for taking care of league business while I was taking care of reality business.

Congrats to those who made the playoffs. Good luck to all. Remember, the winner bypasses AAA, and goes right up to the RIFC.

130

twilson
ID: 953338
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 04:57

Just to let everybody know, I'm leaving for Europe in a few hours, and I'll be abroad until the 17th. I don't think it will be an issue, as I'm sure I'll have access to plenty of internet caf�s, but just keep it in mind in case anything comes up. Hopefully I won't have to deal with any gametime decisions. Anyway, I should get back to packing. Good luck in the playoffs everyone!

131

boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 15:14

i feel my team is slipping away and now comes the playoffs where bad things aways happen to my team.

132

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 16:09

boik -- which team is yours?

133

boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 16:20

skeepers

134

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 20:09

Think of it as if you were resting your starters for the playoffs...

You had a great regular season, slaughtering most of us!

"Your" Brees is keeping "my" guys happy (Bush, Colston, Henderson
and Copper) happy!

135

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 20:26

Judy, no one in the consolation round may add or drop ANY players per the last line of the header on this thread.

Sorry, you're stuck with who you already have. I'll have to reverse those last roster changes.

136

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 21:42

No problem, they were TE and IDP and I misread and thought they
wouldn't be frozen until game time. There WAS a WW transaction
today though...??

Is this so the Championship round team won't pick up conso
players/rejects?

137

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 21:49

Colston, the one consistent shining light on my team, is "game
time" again!

Sigh.

138

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 21:50

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

No pickups for us in the consolation round. TD is in the Championship bracket and can make limited transactions.

It's just one of the rules voted in by the RIFC. As a qualifying league we are bound by those rules.

139

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 23:42

A futbol non sequitur

Did anyone else see the ESPN soccer clip of the penalty kick where
the players in the wall all jumped up and the kicker rolled it under
them for a goal.

It was NEAT! And, very TRICKY!

140

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 00:12

That was pretty cool.

141

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 11:15

It's been tough as my top two draft picks are hurt. My 3rd rounder has been underperforming. I could go on, but I've had to turn over my roster to some degree. I've left a lot of points on my bench. Be that as it may, I still have a shot. I guess that is if TD doesn't have his guys go nuts again--starting with LT. All eight teams have shown the ability to score a boatload of points and it truly is anyone's title for the grabbing.

142

boikin
ID: 59831214
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 15:01

I need to figure out how to build teams for the playoffs, i allways seem to pretty good regular season wise come playoffs my team either under performs or it returns to how it should have returned to normal form instead of the exceptional form that it had been going at. Is there a thread talking about building teams for the playoffs?

143

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 19:35

Not that I'm aware of, but if you want to start one here's the place.

Quit your whining (j/k). I know six teams in the consolation round who would love to trade places/teams with you. Probably a few in the championship round also.

I don't know anything, this year, but your team looks pretty stout to me. I know you were swept last week, but now's not the time to panic. Nothing you can do with your skill players at point anyhow. Maybe a little bad luck having LJ playing your Baltimore D, this week, but what are you going to do, bench LJ? That's crazy. I'd go with the horses that brung ya and hope for the best. You've had good luck all year. Unless you have a crystal ball to see into the future, it's hard to predict. All's I know is that mine has been busted all season.

Overall, I had an awesome year, last year. I won 3 out of 7 leagues I was in and my only sucky team was my RIFC AAA squad. Not a top 5 pick on any team, but looking back, I was very lucky. This year, no luck on any team.

144

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 23:29

I know Porter has a solo tackle. I saw him make it! I hope they fix
it!

145

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 01:30

I think that the NFLNetwork has overplayed their hand, bigtime. I have too much family stuff going on midweek to watch an NFL game on Thursday, even if I could. Tradition has mandated all day Sunday and MNF as the times I watch the NFL. Plus watching Gumble and Co on the NFLN is akin to an Ambien CR and a pint of cheap hooch: a real snoozer.

Saturday nights ain't going to work either. At this point the NFLN will have TO PAY ME to watch them.

Yet another unintended consequence of a greedy decision.

146

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 10:48

Especially when the game is Boring! And is up against Survivor! I
only actually watched as I passed through the room doing house
stuff. Didn't see much -- except that Porter tackle...

I do like the refs new winter pants! Those tighty whiteys don't look
so good on some of the guys!

147

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 12:09

I think as of now Porter has 3 solo tackles and 2 assists according to AOL.

148

boikin
ID: 59831214
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 14:19

re 143; i have just had several convestations over the years about how some people consistendly do well in the playoff even if they barely make it in and others do poorly even after consistely owning the regular season. i think i shall start a thread and see what comes up.

149

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 12:27

Dang it! Bob Sanders is out yet again! I wasted my WW spot and last week wsa the first time I even got to use him.

150

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 12:59

In the consolation round, weykool only has Delhomme at QB and he is out. He has Ben sitting on the bench with 19+ points. Sounds more like something that would happen to my team.

151

Peter N.
ID: 581018320
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 13:01

I'm ready to pull off a major upset today. Best of luck to everyone!

152

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 14:11

We've known that delhomme was out though. Maybe weykool never got the news or didn't remember to check.

153

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 14:30

I'm not a big fan of these Thursday night games. Seems kind of unfair to make teams travel on a short week, this late in the season. Thanksgiving, OK. The rest is just pure greed by the NFL, IMO.

154

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 15:02

With Drew, Muahahos is on his way to upsetting Goats.

155

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 15:21

My team is off to a good start at least.

156

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 15:22

Ben played on Thursday.
Wasnt sure about Delhomme at that time.

157

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:00

My game is way too close. I got a feeling that SA is going to shred the AZ D.

158

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:09

SA better.

159

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:22

I've got to hope that LT can be contained.

160

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:43

Remember, in the consolation game, the highest scoring loser still advances. Could happen that mjd and weykool both move on.

161

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:54

So many upsets brewing. Some by huge margins.

162

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 18:21

WOW. Goats with a vicious comeback.

163

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 19:07

I left quite a few points on the bench yet again! Hope I have enough to hold off TD.

Current scores:
Master of My Domain 65.40
Astade 80.84

Skeepers 95.30
Peter N. 107.80

mjd's Upstate Bombers 116.62
weykool 85.38

smallwhirled 129.40
JUDY CATS 80.12

TD Dragons 102.48
Can't Beat The Refs 153.28

The Treasonists 129.84
twilson 75.20

2006 Vicious Goats 141.52
Muhahos 125.16

164

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 19:11

oh great another lt td and they get the ball right back inside teh 10 and here comes lt again.

165

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 22:42

This Mike Karney is the vulture of the week. Judy's jumped into the top scoring loser race in the consolation round.

I'd better not lose.

166

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:10

Thanks to Brees, Skeepers has come from nowhere to not only surpass but take a huge lead.

167

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:28

5 TDs will do that.

168

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:55

Pretty amazing. Both Goats and Skeepers looked to be in serious trouble early on.

So much for those upsets.

169

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 00:50

Still a couple mild upsets brewing--though Dallas didn't help my bid. Look for scores to be tweaked overnight a smidge. APpears that Judy and sw will advance in the consolation game with their scores.

Master of My Domain 87.36
Astade 80.34

Skeepers 147.36
Peter N. 117.10

mjd's Upstate Bombers 119.40
weykool 104.88

smallwhirled 129.36
JUDY CATS 129.62

TD Dragons 128.18
Can't Beat The Refs 152.28

The Treasonists 132.44
twilson 75.20

2006 Vicious Goats 160.32
Muhahos 133.66

170

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 01:02

smallwhirled 129.36
JUDY CATS 129.22

Neither team has any players left. It's a good thing they both advance!

171

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 19:15

Now Judy's winning 128.66 to 128.36.

172

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:29

So SD let LT score multiple TDs in garbage time and now Holt is doing the same. Now I'm just 9 points ahead with a lot of time to go. If Holt scores again, I'm not going to be happy. Bears are so far ahead they are basically allowing the short stuff.

173

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 00:06

That was torturous, but at least I won.

174

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 11:19

SW advances based on score and will play Master in the top bracket of the consolation game.

175

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 11:23

Week 14 - Round 1
154.36 Skeepers
118.10 Peter N.

152.28 Can't Beat The Refs
145.68 TD Dragons

166.40 The Treasonists
100.40 twilson

159.80 Muhahos
174.44 2006 Vicious Goats

Week 15 - Round 2
Skeepers
Can't Beat The Refs

The Treasonists
2006 Vicious Goats

Consolation
Week 14 - Round 1
123.46 Master of My Domain
91.34 Astade

100.88 weykool
122.40 mjd's Upstate Bombers

128.36 smallwhirled
128.66 JUDY CATS

Week 15 - Round 2
Master of My Domain
smallwhirled

mjd's Upstate Bombers
JUDY CATS

176

twilson
ID: 953338
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 16:26

I knew my chances were over as soon as I saw that Maroney was out. At least I got over 100 this week, so my team didn't completely embarass themselves. Good luck to those still alive!

177

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 01:16

Skeepers is the only team who beat me twice this year. Sure hope I can figure out a way to not make it three times. I had to go up against LT et al last week. Now this week LJ et al. Not getting any easier--that's for sure.

178

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 21:39

Hi to All,

On vacation, sweating out emails to figure out how I was doing.
PHEW - it was too close for comfort! 0.30 points. Go SAINTS!

Good luck to all this week.

179

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 23:38

Just for grins, I looked on Kafenatid to my illustrious 14th round draft. I have 10 players from my original 24 players. Portis and Hasselbeck were injury busts.

My best pick looks to be in the 7th round, Marion Barber III, who was chosen mostly as JJ's handcuff and Parcell's tendency to go RBBC with these RBs.

I really can't complain about the 14th pick. At 13th, GB has done very well and only 2 of the top 6 teams in the draft even made the championship round and only 1 has a chance to win it all.

Speaking of GB, her 3rd round pick of Frank Gore was instrumental to her success this year.

180

boikin
ID: 59831214
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 14:06

MJD very interesting though i have seen others post that picking near the back is better than at the begginning of drafts though it has worked out well for me this year. the one think i like about either near the front or near the back is how you get back to back or near to that picks. you are right about gore being a great pick in the 3rd round, despite the fact that brees is leading my team i really think the steal of the draft for me was A Green i think i got him in like 6th round i remeber thinking he is still here man i know he old but still he is a starter.

181

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 15:52

Hmm. I still have 11 of my original picks.

BUSTS were Cadillac (1), Heap(4), Keenan(6), TJ Duckett(7),
Stokely(10), Freeney(11), Boulware(13), M Williams, (17) J Reed
(18), B Marshall (20) (I don't even know who he IS!) I had to keep
Cadillac as there were no other RB and I kept hoping he would
get better...The others are long gone.
INJURIES hurt Kearse(12), Keenan, Stokely. (All gone.)
DISAPPOINTMENTS were Brady(3) (average most of the time)
Heap, Keenan, Stokely, Freeney, Vrable (22) (until recently). I
dumped the last 5.

I liked Reggie's Bush (2) and Brown (5), Dawkins (8), Joey Porter
(15), D Hall(24) (on occasion).

My good FA/WW pick ups still with me are Colston, Henderson,
V Young, Kampman, Fujita. (I also dropped and then repicked
Buckhalter and Crowder.)

By the time I realized that my RB were not too good, there were
none left to pick up. I relied on my IDP for lots of points and
tried to find good guys there.

I have learned a lot this year about how to frame a team and will
be much more ready and knowledgable for next year. I wish I
could keep a couple of my guys from this year! I already have a
good idea of picks for 2007!

182

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 18:47

RE 180: An end pick is convenient, but I seemed to have alot of time available during this year's draft and I was hoping for a #6 to 9 slot.

183

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Sat, Dec 16, 2006, 10:43

I'm going on vacation in about 30 minutes. Sketchy internet service until x-mas. I've set my lineup for the next two weeks.

mjd: If you could look in on my team Sunday morning and replace anybody that is definitely out, I would appreciate it. Quarles is the main one. It says he will probably play. Chambers is probable. He should be OK. Thanks and good luck to all.

I tried to talk the wife out of it, playoffs and all ; but she wouldn't go for it.

184

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sat, Dec 16, 2006, 23:06

Got you covered, T.

I know how you feel. During the football season, I'd much rather be a homebody. My idea of a great vacation is during baseball spring training in Fla or AZ.

185

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 12:04

Treasonist's players are all active, his lineup remains as he set it.

186

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 15:10

Talk about bad luck for mjd. McNair is out with 0.00 points!
Scheesh!

187

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 16:23

Thankfully my nightmare season should end today <>).

Could have been worse, Judy. Treasonists could not afford 3 picks by Farve against the Goats. And Grossman on his bench with almost 20 points.

Skeepers with an untimely poor stat game by Brees. Though I watched that game and the Washington D really played well for the second time this year. Go figure.

188

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 18:13

Goats and treasonists are neck and neck. I have a big lead but he still has LJ and I don't ever underestimate him. I've again left a lot of points on the bench. Wish I wouldn't have subbed Chester Taylor in this morning afterall. Losman went nuts too on my bench.

189

judy
ID: 241057511
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 19:14

Well, my saints were a bit lax this day, but it appears that my
Eagles have come through -- 2:00 left!

190

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 23:37

Looks like it will be me and Goats in the finals. Skeepers was the only team to go 2-0 on me, so it will be sweet revenge to get him back in the semis.

191

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 00:45

Well done, Ref and Goats.

Going to be good until the end.

Winner takes all.

192

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 13:42

Looks like my opponent will be decided tonight - two Johnsons
going against each other (fantasy wise)...

I had one of my highest point totals this weekend... neat!

Titans win was a weird one -- good thing I sat Vince; I left their
defense on the bench, but the Eagles def came through.

193

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 10:56

I didn't see the end of the game last night, so I don't know who my
opponent is (Master/SW). Live scoring was already cleared off the
AOL site this AM and when I went to set my lineup, there is no
opponent!

HMMMM...

194

Greybear
ID: 127142215
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 12:41

Hi all!

What a rollercoaster ride this has been. You have no idea how many times I paced around the living room screaming I hate this game! I thought for sure I was one and done in the playoffs and then the Goats went Vicious, as they are meant to do. Thursday night's Gore performance had me feeling depressed until he decided he should run for 104 yards in the last quarter (that was almost better than sex, but not really!). And yes, Gore was a gamble, but at that point in the draft, I was desperate to find a non RBBC, starter. It paid off (better than Rhodes, anyway!)

Congrats to everyone keeping with it, and thank you for being such great colleagues. I feel it was a good group, and I apologize for being "absent" from the message boards for so long. We did take a good vacation to the Med, where we had to pay 50 cents a minute for excruciatingly slow internet, so just getting through the roster changes was a challenge during that time. Definately, no time for chit-chat!

Ref, it will be a pleasure facing you in the "Holiday-bowl", and I wish you the best of luck... although I'm wishing myself just a little more luck! Hopefully we will have no injuries or players pulled during the games so we can really go head-to-head. I have Driver and Mush as Questionnable, so I'll have to watch that as the week goes on. However, I don't really feel like starting Moulds.... decisions, decisions!

Boikin, sorry for your loss; You've been amazing all year.

It's been a real pleasure guys and gal!

Best,
Grey

195

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 12:48

My main computer which had all the links and cookies on it is down. I'm on my backup computer. If someone could email me the league info so I can get on the site quicker, I'd appreciate it.

GB, I am capable of beating you, but I need to be solid and not leave points on the bench. Your team has improved after a midseason speed bump and I'd say you are the clear favorite to win.

Despite some hiccups early, there are still some very good managers in this league and hopefully more than one will be in the RIFC next year. With only one AA team, perhaps things will work out that way. No matter if I win or come in 2nd, I had a heck of a time and really like this format that Guru and others have laid out. It's been a lot of fun and my guess is that most of us will play next year.

196

Greybear
ID: 127142215
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 13:07

Hi Ref,

Just sent you an old e-mail containing the League Info. I can't say that I agree about the words "clear favorite", although I do have pretty good matchups, which are causing me to overthink some decisions.

Your definately capable of beating me, and vica-versa... which is why (I think) we all love to play! I'm definately intending on playing next year, I'd just like it to be in the RIFC! In any event, I'll be lurking aroung again come August, right in time to get upset at people who hold up the draft (just kidding).

Enjoy the games and holiday season... drink and cheer responsibly!

197

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 13:09

Thanks for the help. I've got the playoffs set on the site.

Week 15 - Round 2
118.68 Skeepers
142.68 Can't Beat The Refs

129.32 The Treasonists
175.78 2006 Vicious Goats

Week 16 - Finals
Can't Beat The Refs
2006 Vicious Goats

Consolation
Week 15 - Round 2
126.92 Master of My Domain
110.08 smallwhirled

103.74 mjd's Upstate Bombers
148.76 JUDY CATS

Week 16 - Consolation Finals
Master of My Domain
JUDY CATS

198

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 14:54

I just noticed that Master has BOTH Romo and Garcia -- what a
decision to make. (A no brainer for me...GO EAGLES!)

Good luck Master - we'll "duke"it out, probably not knowing until
the Eagles finish with Dallas on Monday, as I have a bunch of Eagles
on my team...

Likewise I have thoroughly enjoyed my season. Invite me in for
next year!

199

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 19:19

GB, in the playoffs, you're averaging 175 points. I am averaging 147. Your matchups are far better than mine. My top 2 picks are injured. My 3rd pick had .7 points last week. My 4th pick had like 3 or 4 points. Both of my healthy RBs are WW guys whom I picked up right before the playoffs just in case and I've used both of them already. A couple of my top IDPs are hurt. One has a cast over his entire hand and the other was knocked out early last week with a concussion. luckily most of the rest of my guys really stepped up. I don't have the greatest of matchups this week, but I do have hope of doing well anyhow. I know my guys have it in them, just need to have it all come together. With all the injuries I've had to deal with this year, a win this week would be all the more sweeter!

200

Greybear
ID: 127142215
Wed, Dec 20, 2006, 12:32

Ref: I can't say that I'm not salivating about matchups such as Manning facing Houston; or Gore trampling Arizona. Although sometimes players do fail to achieve their best performances at crucial times. I'm just happy that everyone should still be playing instead of sitting their studs because they've already achieved their best case scenario (either playoff wise or otherwise). So it should be fun, and we'll just have to see what happens.

Considering all of the mishaps that you have listed, you really played one hell of a season. I just think I had one heck of a great draft!

See you on Sunday (I mean, I'll swear at your team on Sunday)

Best,
V.

201

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 20, 2006, 23:40

My RB and IDP situations are a mess right now. I am reading that I might get back Brown this week though and Taylor thinks he will play. I cna't have hope and think fellas! I had 4 injured IDPs so I just dumped one of them and the other one wasn't doing anything anyhow. I doubt I'll use the guys I got, but with two LBs listed as Q, I needed some guys just in case--even if they just sit on my bench.

202

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 13:12

LOL, all 5 of my RBs are now suspect with Cedric Houston now likely to miss the game. Brown hasn't played in weeks but now says he hopes to go--making Morris not a good start either. Taylor goes tonight and no new info on him today but he hasn't been able to play at full strength in awhile. Henry is also banged up and is listed as Q, though he is thought to be trying to give it a go and start. Really need Taylor to start and do well tonight. Also have Barnett, who despite being listed as Q will start again with that club cast on his hand.

203

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 23:23

Would this be an interesting stat?

How many players on each team got voted to the ProBowl --
acknowledging that the voting is flawed since Westbrook did not
make it.

204

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 09:07

Game on Master!

My Eagles defense and IDP's vs "your" Romo!

Should be a great game -- I hope.

205

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 10:38

Oh Great. Both of my players well underperformed last night whereas GB's one did well (at least he stayed out of the end zone!).

Not a very good start indeed. Taylor and Barnett got about half their average. I have to score well above my averages to win this week. Worse is that Barnett lost a point this morning. I was hoping for Taylor would be great so I could have some hope going into the weekend. I guess there is still hope, but I'm back to the huge underdog thinking mode. Man, I need some nice surprises as well as players hitting and surpassing their averages.

206

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 12:40

Kampman did great for me -- 15.50 points!

My team has finally come to life -- in time for playoffs, but not the
level that I was hoping for...But a win is a win...

207

Greybear
ID: 127142215
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 15:12

That was a brutal game to watch. The defensive aspect of the game far outscored the offence. Ref, I was just happy you don't have either of these D's, which both scored in the low 20s.

Driver gave me an OK performace. I kept waiting for the TD which never came. Darn you Bubba Franks! If it were't for that holding call, there would have been three opportunities for Driver in there. Oh, well, I can't spit on 99 yards. Will definatley take it.

Now I just hope that everyone plays as expected for the weekend (and Monday). Did you notice we both have a bunch of guys playing on Monday? I have 3 and I believe you have 4. So this won't is probably not going to be over until the very end. Good stuff!

Enjoy the eggnog, or beverage of choice. Drink responsibly, or knock yourselves out... but don't drive! Any good friend / relative should let you sleep in the tub if the situation warrants it!

208

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Dec 23, 2006, 23:33

Man, I am having the worst luck. Two of my IDPs are indeed out and now Brown and Morris will likely split carries. Guess I'll be starting Henry even though he's banged up--sounds like he'll be starting. Going to have to use the two IDPs i just picked off the WW aftall. UGH!

209

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 24, 2006, 23:48

I knew it was going to be bad, but never dreamed it would be this bad. Injuries and unanticipated discipline just anhilated me. Hope my 5 players going tomorow go out of their mind, but GB still has 3 to go including the Miami D. It would take a miracle for me to win this.

210

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:54

Not a great time to choose to put together my worst week of the year. I left 33 points or so on the bench, but my team was so bad, it still wouldn't have mattered. Grats to Greybear for winning the league.

211

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 13:14

2006 MVPs
Position Player Team / Owners Season
Points
Quarterback Peyton Manning 2006 Vicious Goats
Greybear 283.10
Running Back LaDainian Tomlinson TD Dragons
TD 417.10
Wide Receiver Marvin Harrison weykool
weykool 193.20
Tight End Antonio Gates Can't Beat The Refs
Ref 134.80
Place Kicker Robbie Gould Skeepers
boikin 154.00
Team Defense Ravens, Team Defense Skeepers
boikin 289.00
Defensive Line Jason P. Taylor Can't Beat The Refs
Ref 136.00
Linebacker London Fletcher TD Dragons
TD 158.00
Defensive Back Adam Jones The Treasonists
The Treasonists 152.62

212

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 13:45

Congrats to Grey Bear and her Vicious Goats. A deserved Champion. Very smart draft from the 13 spot

Thanks to all who participated to the end, despite some difficult times during the draft and season.

Well done to those advancing to the RIFC or AAA next year.

I hope to see the rest of you in AA, next year again.

Personally, my team was terrible, but I enjoyed being a rookie commish and learned alot.

Special thanks to Ref for his support, advice, and encouragement.

I highly encourage every league member to make a financial contribution to RotoGuru.com. Without Guru all this would not exist. Many thanks to him.

213

judy
ID: 181122618
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 19:02

Nobody is probably reading this anymore, but my goal was to outscore the top two this weekend and I did! My team finally came together and almost everyone played well.

Thanks to all who played for a fun season! See you next year!

214

The Treasonists
ID: 571192610
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 08:27

I'm back. Thanks to mjd for looking after my team. Looks like nothing was going to stop the Vicious Goats Express from winning this league. Good luck in the RIFC next year.

215

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 22:04

A very slow internet connection and a bit of hubris prompted #213.

Congrats to GB and the Goats. They were consistently solid all year
long. Best of Luck next year with the Big Boys. Go get 'em!

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