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Sports Challenge     CBS Sportsline     Fanball Commissioner     Sandbox     Yahoo Football     Yahoo Football Plus     Yahoo Survival Football     TX- Football 0 Subject: Survivor 2007 -- Draft Chat Posted by: Shak - [1911172611] Sat, Aug 11, 2007, 00:10 Bill Walsh Division Draft Site Bill Walsh Division 1. SupaMario 2. Shak 3. Joe 4. Edneck 5. Harmon 6. JHHH 7. TB 8. Midget Mauler 9. Terry Tate 10. Steve 11. TrashHaulers 12. STB 13. Grim Reaper 14. 15. He Hate Me 16. RBP 17. Tribe 18. Gcobb Iron Mike Division Draft Site Iron Mike Division 1. BSB 2. He Hate Me 3. RBP 4. Tribe 5. Grim Reaper 6. TrashHaulers 7. STB 8. TB 9. Steve 10. GCobb 11. JHHH 12. Edneck 13. Midget Mauler 14. Terry Tate 15. The Joe 16. Shak 17. Supamario 18.Raider Haters 1 Shak       ID: 1911172611       Sat, Aug 11, 2007, 00:11 The draft will start at 10pm ET on 20 Aug. If you are going to use an icon on the draft site, please shrink it down a little. 2 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sat, Aug 11, 2007, 09:54 Kind of quiet in here. What does everyone think about adding one more round to our draft. I think if we added one more backup player, it would be easier to overcome injuries. Last year, most owners had either a backup QB or K. That only left two flex players on the bench. That makes it hard to handcuff players with a player that will only score points if the starter is injured. Adding one more player gives you a little more wiggle room. Should we vote? 3 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sat, Aug 11, 2007, 17:12 What happened to I like it like it is stuff? Yeah I don't think that's a big change, but that's the beauty of this draft/format, do I get a backup QB or do I get another scorer, only the clowns took 2 kickers.. I'm easy either way, cus I'm drafting 3 QB's early in the draft. 4 TrashHaulers       ID: 460511418       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 01:10 Shak, What is the time limit gonna be to make picks? One more player is fine... but I like our "tough" format. 5 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 18:18 I think we have to keep the draft time limit at 12 hours and hope that everyone can predraft as much as possible. We have our first trade: Iron Mike Division He Hate Me gives 1.2 and 4.17 Spider Pig (Steve) gives 1.9 and 3.9 6 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 18:19 Unless anyone has an objection, I am going to turn on the robo draft option. If you bust your 12-hour time limit, the computer will automatically select a player for you. 7 GCobb       ID: 51722138       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 09:31 I don't plan on busting any 12-hr time limits but I do have an objection to using the robo draft option. The problem is the robo option ALWAYS picks the best available player based on the cumulative ranking of the multitude of drafts held on the site. As a result, the person who busts their time limit usually gets a better pick than they would have made themselves. If you want to speed this along handle it like the NFL does. If one team busts their time limit the team behind them can make their pick and so on. The team that busted gets to make their pick whenever they get around to it but 10 other teams may have gotten in their picks in the interim. Exactly the way the NFL does things. It actually happened to Minn a couple years ago...and for them it actually worked out because they picked up Kevin Williams with that pick...dumb luck. 8 RBP       ID: 186573021       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 10:26 You can modify your list too. 9 Kris Krenzke       ID: 26681922       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 14:48 or....just don't bust the 12 hour time limit. 10 The Joe       ID: 66201615       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 16:45 Anyone in the BIll Walsh league looking to trade up, if so send me an email... 11 TB       ID: 53633209       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 20:26 He Hate Me gives 1.2 and 4.17 Spider Pig (Steve) gives 1.9 and 3.9 I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to make that deal. I stand corrected. 12 GCobb       ID: 51722138       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 21:05 The overall #2 isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. Way too many question marks after LT to pay much of a price to move up this year. 13 terry tate       ID: 417421321       Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 22:50 I wouldnt mind the robo draft option. I only say that because as many people as we have in this league some of them live in different countries and are on different time zones. I remember last year making a pick one night and getting up in the morning to find out it was time to make my next. With the robo you guys wouldnt be waiting. 14 The Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 00:37 i dont like the robo option, I always made sure I had at least as many players selected as owners ahead of me before I left the computer for a long period of time in the event that I was on the clock and not ivo a computer. It makes sense and doesnt take much time, i mean there are only a handful of guys you would want each round anyway that is left at that point. No valid excuses really. Why reward a good pick to someone if they cant take the time to draft ahead of time/be prepared? 15 RBP       ID: 186573021       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 00:51 #2 is S. Jackson, no doubt about it! 16 The Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 01:07 ESPN reported that Larry Johnson close to reaching agreement with the Chiefs(but not that close?), may turnout promising afterall:) 17 jhhh       ID: 22652319       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 09:00 The robo draft killed me last year...and now I'm an extra time zone away from the states. Last year I ended up with my last robo pick in the 3rd round (whom I really didn't think I'd get..I thought I'd get one of the 6 or 7 selections I had in front of him). So I ended up with Larry Johnson and Tony G....bad bye week situation! 18 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 11:45 Trading picks is bad news in this league IMO, your only 1 or 2 bad picks away from stinking up the joint in this format, so i can see why people hate the Robo drafter. What's the deal on trading after the draft or during it, I think people complained about it last year..Can't remember, I know people were trying to clean up their Bye week problems after the fact? I say no.. 19 jhhh       ID: 22652319       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 12:43 I agree with Ednecks "no trading after the draft." 20 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 12:54 I'm not sure I like any trading once the draft starts. Can we agree on when trading should be stopped? 21 The Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 13:13 Edneck, if I remember correctly, we had a QB trade during the draft last year after you screwed up your bye weeks? 22 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 13:29 I don't see why you can't trade before the season starts. All trades have to be approved. Its not like we draft players with the thought that we can use them for trade bait. Sometimes your just not happy with how the draft fell and you want to change your roster. You can't go back to the player pool so all trades have to be equal. I can't see there being more than one or two trades. 23 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 14:22 I like the idea you live with your draft, thats what gives this league the X factor, there is always a weak sister to take advantage of after the draft is over (queue RBP, he has a built in radar for weak sisters), I think once the draft starts all trading stops. Joe, I remember the QB trade and it was 2 years ago. I'm sure JHHH would have loved to trade away 2 of those 6 guys he had on the same bye week last year (good move bud!):-) 24 jhhh       ID: 22652319       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 14:40 It wasn't six....was it? 25 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 14:49 Four at least...but who's counting..The team looked great if you got past that bye week. I know you thought you found a new Strategy like Cobb did when he drafted three QB's early..both failures. I might try my all TE draft this year and see how that works..He He!! 26 Jeff G.       ID: 227441217       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 16:58 Sorry to disagree with TB & GCobb but SJ is definitely the #2 RB this year. Statwise (and Pt wise) he will give you 125-150% fo what your getting from the 6-12 RBs. Agree to disagree on that one, but hey at least I have RBP on my side. IMHO I believe there should either be NO trading after the draft begins. Thats part of smart drafting the last I checked, plus EVERY mag has players bye weeks listed, if ya can't read, bad on you. 27 Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:15 hey guys, just reading previous years posts and dont think we resolved an issue Regarding a one round supplemental draft at the conclusion of round 10? This was first brought up after Mario drank to much and picked up an injured Stevens. Did we already vote on this or no? 28 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:44 I kind of agree that SJ should be ranked #2, you separate the great back from the others, by TD's rush yards and Recieving yards and if you can get a back who is great in all categories then you got a winner. Each year is different, so yeah Cobb might be right and SJ gets less catches and less recieving yards, but it won't be much less to rank him lower then the others. The question marks to me are Alexander, Rudi, Brown, Henry, Bush and Magahee, will they get enough Td's and receptions to warrant the hype, (in Bush's case rush yardage). So IMO the cutoff is #2 and then it's a crap shoot all the way down, all the others have question marks (Injury prone, catches, poor Offenses, Not signed,lack of catches..) I took #4 soley so I can get the one I want out of those question marks..I trust myself more then letting the others leave me a question mark not of my choice. We all know that if your 1st round is a bust your chances of winning drop drastically. 29 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:45 Jeff, you aren't disagreeing with me. SJ is the #2 draft pick, but he isn't worth giving up 26/27 spots in the 3/4th round. Do I want to move up 6 spots to draft Steven Jackson instead of Henry/Addai/Parker/Alexander, but move down 27 spots from my 3rd round choice and pick someone like Glenn or Hackett instead of a Colston/Ward/Driver? No. 30 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:49 I like it TB, makes sense to me...Spider Pig your now officailly a loser and have no clue...TB has spoken!! 31 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:55 Ed, I was reading your post above mine and you're absolutely correct. So many question marks after #2. LJ will probably be in camp soon and solidify himself as top 3 and a few other backs will create some separation in the rankings over the next couple weeks, but this year seems like a lot of dice rolling compared to past seasons. 32 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 17:56 I noticed that Gore is not getting much love because of the broken hand, you really think he's way to much of a risk to take early...I'll admit I like Addai, Gore, Parker and Westbrook over SA, soley because I like the guys who catch the ball ...so Alexander will be free for whomever drafts behind me..might be a gift? 33 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:01 I think Spiderpig made a brilliant trade. I think it's a smart move to trade up to take the sure thing in the 1st. How your 1st pick does will go a long way in deciding how far you survive. In a totally unrelated topic, does anyone want to move up to #2 in the BW? Anyone? Spiderpig??? 34 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:16 Loyalty...Shak does Spiderpig owe you money..the bottom line is dropping 26 spots in the third round is not worth having SJ over the #9 RB..maybe LT, but SJ is not in his class yet, one season doesn't make you a superstar, once he does it again I'll jump on the bandwagon. I'll assume SpiderPig might have a pot belly and 8 legs. 35 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:25 I havn't checked but did any of the winners from the last 2 years have the top 2-3 drafted Rb's on their roster? To lazy to check.. 36 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:27 In other formats, maybe, but with the "one bad week" format I wouldn't do a trade like that this year unless it was for LT. Even with that said, I hate trades in this format and hate draft position trades. How lame is it that a online dice roller gave someone the opportunity to move 26 spots from the 4th into the 3rd round based purely on a random script? Every year I see a dorked up trade, but fortunately I've yet to see the dorkus or dorkee win the league. 37 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:42 Dorkus and Dorkee...RBP answers to both:-) 38 Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:43 Hey TB, I will trade you my first round pick for your promise to never say dorkus on this board again. 39 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:44 Seems like I'm on a bust Scotty arse night!! No hard feeling's "Old Large One". 40 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:46 Joe was called that in High School and hasn't gotten over the trama..sixteen years of therapy!! 41 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:48 Just the football leagues and standings or the entire forum? 42 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:54 I'd rather be lucky than good, because that's what it takes to win in this league. You draft and hope that your guys stay healthy. All the books and software can't help you if your guys aren't on the field. Also, all the trade sites I visited said I was increasing my draft status by a minimum of 10%. If you aren't happy with what you got, you've got to make a move. This league is already over after the season starts I might as well keep my interest before and during the draft because there's nothing left to do but watch after that. Just because you guys are afraid to make a move don't dump. All I read on this site from you guys is how afraid of change you are. Rather than be the one to take a chance and make a draft pick trade or post draft trade you'd rather hide behind the rules and gloat that you are the best drafter ever....17 weeks from now. 43 Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:57 Funny stuff, I was going to make a high school comment about myself too, but decided I will leave that to someone else, figured it would have been you ednecks. Seriously, I had typed that then deleted it in hopes that necks would say something. I Like how your mind works. I'd go with entire forum TB... 44 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:58 Since we all seem to be in a ranting mood, I'd like to mention one of my pet peeves. I hate it when someone justifies the status quo by saying "that's the way we've always done it." Every single sports league evaluates their rules annually. No league stays static. To use that excuse is just a cop out IMO. Thank you for your time. 45 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 18:59 What are the odds your computations/software say I've giving you the finger right now...probably the other 90% 46 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:06 At least we got something started..I always say everything with a :-)...nothing serious, just opinions flying around. 47 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:08 LOL, ED. Steve - Anything after 10 words means you're trying to convince yourself. A trade calculator may tell you that this is equal value, but that calculator doesn't take into account our format. Afraid of change? I'm in like 10 football leagues. I don't want change because it's more sh!t I have to do to prep for the season. This is a simple and fun format the way it is. Shak - See above. This is a fun format, but every year we want to add more stuff to it. I will play no matter the changes we make, but it's already pretty freaking awesome the way it is. Joe - I'm going to have to pass. I like to drink and I have a lot of anger issues. Using words like dork and goober keep me from getting banned on forums. 48 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:10 Change scares some people, I'm like "Rainman" I've been wearing the same K-Mart brand underwear for 35 years. 49 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:14 TB, like I said, it's a pet peeve. I can accept your opinion with no problem. I can even understand your reasoning for not wanting change, but ..... I just hate to hear "because that's the way we've always done it." I guess it's because I heard it way too many times in the AF. Drove me crazy. 50 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:20 I don't have the final spreadsheet with me, but I believe both winners from last year came from the back end of the draft. 52 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:25 Ednecks: there's a 100% chance my software knows where you've been sticking that finger. TB: I don't have to convince myself now, I did that two days ago. You said it yourself (#36) a random script dictated what pick I got. 53 Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:27 No, ednecks, KMART sucks;) 54 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:28 REGGIE WHITE Draft Order - Finish 1.HHH 5 2.Tribe 16 3.TrashHaulers 2 4.Edneck 4 5.Jeff D 7 6.Supa Mario 13 7.HarmonJ 10 8.Steve 18 9. Joe 14 10.Terry Tate 3 11.Midget M. 12 12.Grim Reaper 9 13.RBP 8 14.STB 17 15.Gumsellers 6 16.SHAK 1 17.TB 11 18.GCOBB 15 55 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:28 WALTER PAYTON Draft Order - Finish 1. GCobb 3 2. TB 9 3. Shak 10 4. Gumsellers 7 5. RBP 4 6. Grim Reaper 12 7. STB 13 8. Joe 14 9. Midget 17 10. Terry Tate 18 11. Steve 11 12. SupaMario 16 13. Harmon 2 14. Edneck 6 15. HHH 5 16. Tribe 15 17. TrashHaulers 1 18. Jeff D 8 56 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:28 Your Software is correct Old wise one and My wife has been loving every minute of it!! 57 Steve       ID: 34492918       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:30 Ed, there was alot of ways you could go with that...I didn't think you'd point any out. 58 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 19:34 I think what that says is no matter where Trash picks he's going to be good, a 1st and 2nd place is pretty awesome. 59 TB       ID: 53633209       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 21:12 Those were my same thoughts when I looked at that. Trash is the man. My second was that I thought I finished higher in the WP. Well, if that's where I finished I sure wouldn't listen to anything I have to say about fantasy football. 60 Shak       ID: 526391622       Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 23:33 Steve, I think you need to check over the standings again. I'm sure TB finished higher and I'm pretty sure I finished higher in the WP also. If I'm not mistaken, I think RBP exited in week one. 61 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 00:13 I think thats a total points standing because I did exit early but had a pretty good team. How is this for a rule...any owner who blows his 12 hour time limit is suspended from Survivor for 1 year. That should motivate everybody to check in early and often. 62 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 01:15 Dorkus and Dorkee...RBP answers to both:-) Ed I heard that :-) 63 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 01:16 TRIPLE POST! On a side note I sure with Big Brother didn't block rotoguru at work, I'm sure all of the GI's would be a lot more active. 64 Midget Mauler       ID: 30738125       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 12:04 Fellas ill be heading back to the states tomorrow and will be out of pocket for a couple of days without internet. I should be around for when the draft starts but not 100% because im on the road the 20th. So if you all want you can give me a buzz on the phone 210-725-7347 to let me know what is going on. I also know that starting on the 23rd ill be really busy with RBP know why, so ill just post as many players in an order as i can. Hope this cool with anyone. RBP you can call me bro. 65 Concerned Joe       ID: 26737157       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 14:16 midget man, thanks for posting your number so the whole internet world can see you (email next time;) Now you wont know it is me calling you at 3 in the morning! 66 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 17:50 The results are in. Fourteen owners voted and nine voted for the trade deadline being the start of the draft and nine voted to keep the draft at 10 rounds. Luckily, this league is not a democracy. I decree that we will have trading up until week 6 and the draft will now be 24 rounds. 67 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 18:04 Just kidding. Can we have a vote on whether this should be a democracy or not. I want to have the last word on the 10 round vote. To me, raising it to 11 rounds is a good change for three reasons. First of all, it allows teams to better overcome an injury with an additional sub. Secondly, the FBG site has a survivor league with 12 owners and they draft for 24 rounds! IMHO it takes much more skill to draft more rounds, because now you have to decide whether to draft a deep sleeper or a handcuff RB or QB. And thirdly is because drafting is the best part of FFL. It's actually about the only thing this league is about, other than the odd trading of draft spots. How can going one more round be a bad thing? It doesn't radically change any strategy or cause you to re-do your draft list. The pros for keeping it at 10? That's how we've always done it? It makes it more challenging? Not enough players? I think all of those are faulty and weak arguments. It doesn't make it more challenging, it makes teams more vulnerable to injury and therefore more of a crap shoot. Anyway, I'll get off my soap box and give it another try next year. 68 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 18:49 I really don't care either way, but I like how Shak tries to justify why the majority of the league has weak excuses/reasons why they voted the way they did. Badgering and calling names will get you no where I'm offended:-)...I'll change my vote if it malkes you feel better..I really didn't care!! 69 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 19:46 Pretty soon we will have 24 rounds with divisions set up, you get too choose who you start that week and the fee will be 300 dollars. I think the majority voted to keep it simple, because like most I liked the idea of this being pain free after the draft..I have way too many leagues to keep track of. I don't mind change, but lets just keep it simple plesae!! Scotty I think you need to make up your mind on weather you want to keep it simple or you want to turn this into a full fledged league..because you contradict yourself on way too many subjects...I guess you have the right to change your mind.. 70 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 19:49 Shak I still think having two teams increases your chances...You can't change my mind on that one..Just thought I'd bring that up for old time sake :-) 71 Midget Mauler       ID: 30738125       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 22:31 Thanks for being concerned Joe but it will only be turned on for a couple weeks and then turned back off. Just wanted to let you all know that if i was MIA for a couple of days that was the reason to just bear with me. 72 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 22:42 Hey Ed, I still think Domanick Davis is overrated. 73 Joe       ID: 66201615       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 00:02 Another reason SHAK agreed was because he was for the extra round last year, as was BSB, Mario, STB, TB (kinda, he agreed anout the steven/bears incident ), Ednecks (due to karma, maybe sarcastic, but whatever, if it fits my argument;), and harmonj WAS for changing picks b4 the next owner selected. Not sure how RBP was leaning, but I Think you were with me, right buddy! Disclaimer: Im about to fall asleep right now, so if I added a name above that was not for it (pretty sure it is all accurate though) or that is no longer in the league, I apologize now, to tired to double check (again). A previous quote from ednecks: "I vote for anything Joe votes for my the way! If it's good enough for Joe then his happiness is all that matters." -Ednecks 29 AUG 06 1358hrs, and likely drunk Joe 74 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 00:14 Contradict myself? Anyways I'll tell you a story... When the worlds first recognized Survivor league was started the idea was to keep things simple. I figured since I had to manually add up all of the stats we didn't need 18 teams with 20 players each to tabulate each week. So keeping it simple was to save me time and effort. Over the course of two seasons another owner started using software to track the stats, that was even more simple than me doing it and I let him take total control of the league. So from day one the simpleness of the league was to avoid it from being time consuming to figure the weekly scores. Now, for the second Survivor league I do not tabulate any numbers, I'm more of the "Godfather" in Old School than a Commish. So really at the end of the day somebody else is adding up the numbers and if he's willing to keep adding them up I'm all for divisions, and expanded rosters, setting lineups etc. To avoid my inbox from getting 18 lineups mailed to me weekly we decided to add up and figure each teams BEST lineup after the fact, it was just easier that way. So to summarize I'm guilty of flying the "keep it simple" flag more often than not from habit. SHAK DOES ALL OF THE WORK, so as far as I'm concerned I'm just a dude in the league like anybody else who just happened to create the first Survivor League. 75 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 00:23 Another thing (double post)... Originally I didn't want to hear any crap about tweaking my idea, it was not a democracy, it was MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. See I was a regular at the huddle.com and to SIMPLIFY things I put together rules, scoring, payouts etc. and put it out on the site to see if others were interested. Owners were eligible if they had 100+ posts at the huddle, first 17 plus me were in. Their was no debate and thh league filled in 1 day with a HUGE waiting list. The idea was solid, dudes were lining up to play. For some reason I like the nostalgic idea of playing the same way we did originally, but SHAK is doing all of the work so who am I to say how THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DONE. Change is not bad, I just don't want Shak Daddy (and others) overwhelmed with tracking 180 players stats each week. Thanks 76 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 01:06 Geez...I should have just stayed quiet for once. Whatever you figure heads want to do is fine by me, I just want to play Survivor no matter what the changes. Stop asking me to vote, just tell me the format and then we can proceed!! Cranky? Male menopause I guess 77 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 01:24 The only reason I said anything is you ask people to vote and then when you don't like the outcome you start complaining. I would rather just Shak and the founding father (Scotty), plus whomever else wants to be on the Declaration of Independence just set the rules for each year and we proceed..then if you don't like them you don't have to play. 78 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 01:38 LMAO! Ed u crack me up. I just want to play Survivor also. 79 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:11 You guys crack me up too. Shak, you forgot this excuse: 11 is a dumb ass number and it should be even rounds in a snake format, so if not 10 then 12. 80 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:23 Hey Shak is right, democracy is way overrated. If I had my own country of "Edstonia" I'd run it just like Stalin did without killing a few Millon people, you know the rules, screw up and talk bad about the Edneck you would find yourself in a Gulag in the middle of Siberia making "I love Edneck Mugs"..Hey the state needs cash..cheap forced labour is the key. 81 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:25 You can build your own country: http://www.cybernations.net/default.asp 82 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:41 TB your a man of many talents and Information. I only posted that 2 minutes ago and you have the answer already. You did say you were in the army? If so there's hope for us in Iraq yet!! 83 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:47 Domanick Davis is he still alive..he might be the next Stoney Case! Shak won't let me live that one down 84 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 02:50 I WAS in the Army. I retired on 31 March this year. I'm now double dipping off Uncle Sam as a program analyst. More money and less work hours. Go figure. You can be a fantasy truck driver or a pirate too: Truck Driver Pirate 85 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 03:00 Analyst makes sense now. Makes you wonder why anyone stays the full 20 anymore, "more money and less hours" I bet you wish you made that move a few years ago. I'm not knocking the Forces, there are many reasons to stay, TDY's have got to kill the family life for these boys doing the desert duty...might as well get payed for the pain. 86 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 03:35 Well, I was stretching it a little. GS-11 pay is less than what I made as an E-8 with special duty pay, but combined with my retirement pay I am making more than what I was making and working less hours each day. I certainly encourage anyone to do at least 20 years and get those bennies for life. The retirement pay makes the house payment every month and always gives me the option to say "screw this job" without stressing the current bills. 87 STB       ID: 26728313       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 04:30 Just checking in and trying to make sure I haven't missed anything. Question: Has there been any changes for this year? I don't think any changes passed but I want to be sure before the 20th. TD 88 BSB       ID: 56632010       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 10:30 Well the draft is in 3 days... I guess since there is no movement on the draft picks issue we are staying at 10... as pointed out earlier 11 in not feasible so it must be upped to 12 if it's happening... That trade is great for HHM... Getting an extra 3rd round pick in such a deep draft is a great thing.. and it definitely over values the drop off of 1.2 (LJ, SJ) to whoever is there at 1.9 (Brown, B West, Addai, Gore, Henry, etc) I wonder what, if any, 'cash considerations' were exchanged as well... Joe are you back from Houston? 89 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 11:42 (single post) yeah just got back earlier this week Jeff. It was nice, and based on employment, I may be moving out there. RBP, who were you talking to when you said 'Contradict myself'? After further review I see it was redneck. So ignore the question, Im just to lazy to erase what I already typed. I do miss you necks, but the feeling is starting to fade with your age... 90 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 11:46 Also, just incase anyone wants in (i know that most of you are already in 37 other leagues) I have an opening or 3 for my gay ass yahoo league and the draft is tonight! IF anyone wants in b4 I open it to public let me know. Like I said the draft is in 7 hours. I Guess most of the regulars from previous leagues are to busy in Iraq to sign up in my league this year, talk about priorities! 91 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 12:05 I see that "The Joe" has retired now. I think if your gay, your ass is the first to know about it. Is that league just for Gays? I guess I can't play, too busy anyway. You knew I couldn't resist!! 92 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 12:16 The Joe was just a faze, your gay 'experimenting' that started when you were at the little innocent age of 17 is still going strong though huh? You still calling that a faze? lol, kinda 93 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 12:18 (quadruple POST, cause ednecks dont count) So does taht mean you are in or out? 94 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 12:30 Joesephine, I'll not even justify that stupid statement. No I'm not in!! 95 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 12:50 meow 96 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 21:11 ^^^^^^^^ lol 97 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 08:35 little confused? when does the draft start? 98 RBP       ID: 186573021       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 10:19 meow 99 jhhh       ID: 22652319       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:05 Hopefully the draft doesn't start until after Monday so I can see whether or not to draft Vick. 100 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:34 Does someone have a date for me? Saw different dates, would like to know for sure, you know, so I dont hold you all up for 11 hrs and 59 minutes (so I dont get suspended for a year) 101 Shak       ID: 526391622       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:47 Draft starts on Monday at 10pm ET. That is also the deadline for trades. Ten rounds. 102 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:49 Thank you kind sir! 103 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:17 Kind sir?..Joe you ass kisser 104 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:03 Im not gonna go down to your level, so I'll just take that sly comment with a smile (you know, turn the other cheek) you old Deutch-bag :) 105 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:04 not that cheek ednecks! 106 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 16:41 Just playing!! insert huge smiley face here. 107 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 01:31 meow 108 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 05:19 Ruff, Ruff...no meow 109 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 06:40 BAck to football. How do you see picks 4-10 once LJ signs? I'll have a guess and what I would do: 4. Addai 5. Alexander 6. Gore 7. Westbrook 8. Parker 9. Henry 10. Rudi for me. but Bush will be taken by most. One of those guys will be a bust for a 1st round pick...and I got a feeling it's either Gore or Parker, soley because of an injury. My pick @ #4 will be either Addai or Alexander. I hoping for my other pick #12 either Maroney or Manning of course that pick will depend on what falls, but it's pretty cut and dry the top 10 will go as perdicted...I can understand why Cobb picked #10 after that it falls down a little. Yes this could be propaganda!! 110 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 10:17 Speaking of Propaganda-I dont really think LT is the number one pick this year, I really think he should fall down to the third slot in the Bill Walsh Division, and probly down to 15th in the Iron Mike. But in a novice league like this, hell, he'll probly go first in bothe leagues:( 111 Joe       ID: 66201615       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 13:10 both* 112 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:47 I'm interested to see where a couple of players go...namely LJ, Alexander, Manning and Bush. 113 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 07:25 Before we get this started does everyone have access to the Myfantasyleague.com draft site? 114 Joe       ID: 66201615       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 10:26 Do we need that site for something ednecks? 115 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 11:30 Geezzzz..in real life I strangle the shit out you!! 116 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 13:08 I'm not sure...sad to say I forget where were drafting? I have no email record from teh site with my password...? 117 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 14:03 Shak has a link to both draft sites in post #0...password is probably your team name unless you changed it. 118 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 14:31 Anyone in the 12-14 range interested in trading 1st and 2nd round picks in either/both drafts? I keep trying to set my draft card and honestly have no preference between the #4-#14 RB's. I have a queue set up, so waiting to trade after the draft starts means my pick is probably going to be done on auto mode. 119 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 14:44 Calm down, did not realize that was the same site that we had the links for already! You are such an E-Thug ednecks! 120 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:53 LOL E-Thug..thought you were being a Smarta$$ 121 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 18:25 Payment recieved...Steve Robinson. 122 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:39 I pre-selected in both drafts, round 1. 123 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:24 You should have my payment as well. I sent 50 via paypal (complete mess) and 50 via snail mail at the end of last season. 124 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:43 Yes TB, thanks for reminding me...that was a MESS and one of the reasons I no longer like Paypal. 125 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:49 Surprisingly, I am back on good terms with them and haven't had a problem since, but that was kinda crazy for a bit. 126 Joe       ID: 197441310       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:06 Not to ruin the party guys, but the draft doesnt start until 10 PM right? Therfore, I removed my pre-daft selection because I am waiting till I find more if anything about LJ. I dont want to draft LJ at noon and find out that he is sitting out the first month or suspended, or draft Alexander at noon and find out that LJ signed at three pm. So I will likely be maxing out my time on this pick. Sorry... 127 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:31 Just so I don't disappoint you...and I draft behind you, your a Big Girls Blouse!! 128 Joe       ID: 197441310       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 10:08 I expect nothing less 129 RBP       ID: 66141614       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 16:53 How is the draft going? Anybody care to send me an email update to scott.mccoy@elmendorf.af.mil Thanks 130 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:56 Midget's earlier post, may be a a little while. "Fellas ill be heading back to the states tomorrow and will be out of pocket for a couple of days without internet. I should be around for when the draft starts but not 100% because im on the road the 20th. So if you all want you can give me a buzz on the phone 210-725-7347 to let me know what is going on. I also know that starting on the 23rd ill be really busy with RBP know why, so ill just post as many players in an order as i can. Hope this cool with anyone. RBP you can call me bro" 131 RBP       ID: 186573021       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:14 I called him and have a plan over the next few days. He's at AF softball camp down in Florida and won't have internet for a few days. Like I said we have a game plan. Terry Tate is in Italy, no idea what time it is there right now. 132 Joe       ID: 66201615       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:59 Just spoke to midget man like 30 minutes ago, he said RBP is taking care of it for him, he will be back friday... 133 Joe       ID: 66201615       Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 23:01 My bad, RBP, didnt know you already posted that...yeah ednecks, I agree with you exactly (for once) in regards to LJ. Heck of a pickup for JHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH if he plays though. I Guess I will be voting against the chiefs this year! 134 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 01:14 I really dont mean to keep you guys waiting. I made my picks first thing this morning. The time here in Italy is 7 hours ahead of central time, not sure how that applies to Alaska though. Also, I've already checked and I cannot access the draft website from work. One last hit, that "Big Girls Blouse" comment (post #127) was frickin hilarious. 135 RBP       ID: 186573021       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 01:33 TT your up again....on the clockski. 136 RBP       ID: 186573021       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 01:40 TT can u access Roto at work? I can at lunch on random days.... 137 Joe       ID: 66201615       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 02:03 no problems with my bye weeks yet which is a good thing....LOL, there is always time for that though. Broke the main rule and didnt draft a RB with my first pick, much like edneck, rather draft the best WR rather then the 15th best RB..hope it works out. Moving nicely on Iron Mike, I just hate scrathing off all these great names from my list as I have to wait TWENTY SEVEN more picks to go again... 138 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 02:56 I took P. Manning soley because of value, didn't like the remaining RB's at #12. You can never go wrong with Peyton, I probably won't reach on a RB with my#2....I'm playing the best available player draft, if that means a lousy Rb then I guess RBP won't like my team.. 139 RBP       ID: 186573021       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 03:01 I'm glad I didnt get LJ, dont trust him in this format. 140 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:27 Bye weeks are a pain. I have to pass up Marvin HArrison to take EJ, he's still a decent pick @ 25 and should fair better with the offense this year, but still not that sexy a pick...was going to go Owens, got scared about not having a decent Rb and EJ was worth taking. RBP not happy taking Palmer at 16...RBPimp needs a Rb fix quick. 141 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:16 I took Kurt Warner (got hurt) and Kordell Stewart (he was gay and played bad) in first rounds through the years, both of those turned out TERRIBLE, maybe this one will work out. 142 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:55 gay and played bad LMAO. LIke taht was relevent. I have to find this article for you, hold on! 143 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:56 gay and played bad LMAO. LIke taht was relevent. I have to find this article for you, hold on! Found it: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30366 144 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 12:00 I'm somehow into the sites from work, this is like winning the fantasy football lottery...when is it going to be my pick!??????!!!!?! 145 BSB       ID: 56632010       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 12:37 Draft was moving nicely but both leagues hit a bump in the last couple of hours... let's keep it movin!!! 146 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 13:09 Somebody call Krenzke so i can pick and get back to work :-) 147 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 14:21 I wonder if you realize how painful it was for me to take Carson Palmer in the first round and it's my fault, 100%. Bad planning in both drafts have left me sort of pissed off. Taking the #3 and #16 spots was HORRIBLE mismanagement IMO. Would have been better at 6-9ish and 13-15ish because all of teh RB's I like were gone by 15 in both drafts and #3-#10 is a crapshoot anyways. I think teh best VALUE was getting a guy like Maroney later if you cant get LT or Jackson. Nobody to blame but me, bad bad planning (or no plan is the reality). 148 Shak       ID: 336361613       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 14:53 US Southwest Division Tribe -- New Mexico Grim Reaper -- Las Vegas Steve -- Arizona GCobb -- Texas Raider Haters -- Arizona Shak -- Arizona Other US Division He Hate Me -- Maryland TrashHaulers -- Arkansas STB -- Alaska RBP -- Alaska TB? Overseas Division JHHH -- Spain Midget Mauler -- Germany Terry Tate -- Italy The Joe? Edneck? BSB? Supamario? 149 BSB       ID: 56632010       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:13 I'm in NJ... good ol' EST What's up with drafters in Alaska? And how many active servicemen/(women?) are in this league? 150 BSB       ID: 56632010       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:24 RBP- Don't feel too bad about Palmer. An elite QB a full season back playing knee surgery is a big plus (not to mention the WRs he has to throw to). And yes, value after LT comes in different ways. In the Iron Mike league, after I took LT instead of going with a middle-level tier RB I decided to go with one of the elite WRs left on the board (chose R. Will over Wayne). As far as Maroney goes, I've learned from experience to stay away from anything under the direct control of that homeless bum coaching up in NE (except for Brady). He has really screwed me in years past with his handling of Dillon. No way I would take a risk like that again, especially the early rounds. 151 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:25 Joe is in NJ too, and Mario is in Arizona...our time in Kosovo is over! 152 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:30 Hey, wasnt Craig Sanders on this site earlier last month? Is he one of these teams and I dont know it or did he fall off the face of the earth again? 153 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:40 Ednecks, with your attempt to reunite the Colts old offense, when are you planning to draft Brandon Stokley? 154 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:47 I'm in England. RBP it's a tough year to gauge were the drop offs are. I think after #10 it's a crap shoot and that includes Maroney who I think has enormous talent, but BSB is correct, they spread it around so much in NE that Brady is the only safe bet. I tried to stay away from the duo RB's teams early, I think Bush and Duece are the only safe bets. I look to see some improvement over last years numbers in E. James, so I'm relatively happy with Manning & EJ. 155 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:52 I just love Manning and all he brings every week. EJ is what he is, a 5-10 yard runner without break away speed, good recieving skills and Hopefully a new offense and improvement, plus a decent pick @25, have I convinced myself yet? 156 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:40 I would have taken him at the end of the second or anytime in the third with no guilt. 157 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:13 Calling Gary Cobb. 158 RBP       ID: 66141614       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:13 Calling Gary Cobb. 159 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 18:52 taking a little to long for people in US time zones... 160 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 18:58 Ill be out for about three hours. So BSB or Mario, give me a call if I am up, dont want to keep you all waiting 161 Joe       ID: 197441310       Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 21:57 A day late, a buck short.... LJ signs, congrats whoever got him http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7141652?MSNHPHMA 162 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:00 I'm in Missouri, Shak. My access is crap during the day. I have a cheat sheet at work to email picks and try to set up a queue when it gets close. 163 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:07 TB I like the Brees pick...will not be shocked if he's the #2 QB when all the dust settles, maybe even #1. Saints offense is loaded. Colts, Saints and Bengals are on a different level. 164 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:08 Awaiting triple H in both leagues. 165 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:35 US Southwest Division Tribe -- New Mexico Grim Reaper -- Las Vegas Steve -- Arizona GCobb -- Texas Raider Haters -- Arizona Shak -- Arizona Supamario -- Arizona Other US Division He Hate Me -- Maryland TrashHaulers -- Arkansas STB -- Alaska RBP -- Alaska TB -- Missouri The Joe -- New Jersey BSB -- New Jersey Overseas Division JHHH -- Spain Midget Mauler -- Germany Terry Tate -- Italy Edneck -- England 166 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:38 Scotty, I have no idea how you're going to survive week 5 in BW. First two picks with the same bye week and you don't pick again until 3.16 and will have to take a 2nd QB before too long. You are in a deep hole! 167 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:42 I like Brees and I like his bye week, but I didn't want to take him in the 2nd round. He didn't make it back to me in IM so I thought I would jump a little early in BW just to have two different approaches. I had about 10 other players I would have prefered to grab in this spot, but locking down a solid QB early is okay too I guess. 168 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 01:02 Thanks for the concern....it's a calculated risk I'm taking.....I know how I'm going to survive. 169 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 01:08 This should be good. I can't wait to see this master plan unfold. 170 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 01:25 I predrafted in both leagues, so I hope I wont cause a delay, think I picked enough in both leagues so taht at least one of my picks will be drated. Night gentlemen, and ednecks, looking forward to the drafting mistake excuses in the morning;) 171 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 02:22 "I can't wait to see this master plan unfold." Me too, lol. 172 Supamario       ID: 356142522       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 03:28 I'll draft Bill Walsh in the morn at work 173 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 08:41 The master plan has already been unfolded, He hopes Peterson becomes a stallion and he's put all his chips on double zero hoping to hit the big jackpot. Pray heavy during the bye weeks. 174 BSB       ID: 56632010       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 09:29 Interesting seeing how both drafts are playing out... IM is pretty much going as expected but in BW recently there has been a few questionable picks with D. Williams going a little early. ... and I've learned my lesson last year with the bye weeks... 175 BSB       ID: 56632010       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:37 Super Mario Brothers should start thinking about pre-ranking 176 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:39 If he's here in az, he should be at work by now, unless he's got one of those cush jobs with bankers hours. 177 Steve       ID: 34492918       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 12:00 He's probably on active duty and doesn't do much of anything with bankers hours to boot. 178 RBP       ID: 66141614       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 12:03 As I look over the rosters (so far) not many teams REALLY stand out as loaded thru 2-3 rounds, and thats a good thing. I really like my team wil Alexander, Peterson and Wayne and really dislike my team of Palmer and Peterson. Funny how that works out. 179 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:03 Round 1-3, you really cant go wrong (unless you draft Tom Brady first Mario) round four is when you start to second guess just about everyone of your picks. ALready regret the Bulger selection over Deuce... 180 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:08 A little strange that Duece was drafted 18th in the IM and 40th in the BW? I think i got a bargin and thanks Joe..I know bye weeks make picks jump around, but 22 pick difference is quite large. 181 RBP       ID: 66141614       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:18 Shocked Duece fell that far...great value at 40 in that Saints offense. 182 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:27 That was great value! I was so locked on to Donovan, I didn't even think about Duece. I wanted to get a top 6 QB in at least one of the leagues and when I saw that Donovan has a week 5 bye (in the BW), I was sold. 183 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:36 Thats the beauty of this format, you get worried about not having a decent QB or RB and sometimes gems fall in your lap..I did the same with taking EJ in IM, was too worried about the RB position i let Holt and Owens go...It's tough to juggle the Bye weeks and get the right player you want..I've passed on a few guys soley because Of bye week and hated it!! 184 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:38 Sportsline has a faceoff article about which rookie RB has more value for this year. One guy took Lynch and the other took B Jackson. They both agree that AP has more talent and is the better long term prospect, but they like the other two guys better. Interesting. 185 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:42 I think what I feel the most guilty about about is that I made you happy by getting him edneck. 186 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:45 I think that's based totally on that AP has Chester Taylor taking away carries and the other two are pretty much locked in as the starter. I have to admit AP looked damn good in the last pre-season game, If he stays healthy AP has to be the better back IMO..I think chester's days are numbered. 187 RBP       ID: 66141614       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:46 I have not passed on a player based on bye week yet...but I know I took two players with week 5 bye weeks, which pretty much eliminates the rest of the players with week 5 byes....so eventually it will matter, Big Time! I have passed on guys who are injury concerns to me. If this was a "regular league" I would have drafted much differently, as would have everybody else. 188 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:47 I think you did it on purpose Joe...secretly you just want to make me happy!! 189 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:51 My strategy on Bye weeks are that you spread out your early picks and if you have too and everyone does, double up with your later picks..I never have the same bye weeks with my first 4 picks..I think it works and your better players are never off at the same time. 190 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:52 Joe make your pick in the IM.. 191 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:54 Sorry you already made it... 192 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:05 its ok 193 BSB       ID: 56632010       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:40 one team (but different owners at a time) keeps clogging up both drafts 194 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:44 I came home for lunch and set up a small 7-person queue for Iron Mike. It sucks having zero access from work. I doubt BW makes it back to me anytime soon. 195 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:59 In a sense, it's pretty cool how both divisions are staggered a round apart and most owners are making picks about the same time in both divisions. I know for those of us drafting around the turn, it makes it convenient. I probably won't be drafting in either until tomorrow. 196 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:04 nice new gay look on the Bill Wash board, i betch ya I know who had a hand in that... 197 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:19 I resemble that remark! It's not easy trying to make red and gold look manly. You all can blame TT for making me bored. 198 Steve       ID: 1376913       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:22 I want Shak's job. 199 Joe       ID: 66201615       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:29 sorry, the site is cool, in a sherbert kinda way! 200 Steve       ID: 1376913       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:31 Got the matrix look going on. 201 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:38 It's a work in progress. I'll try to man it up a little for you Joe. 202 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:44 It's like the Green Hornet took over the BW site... 203 BSB       ID: 56632010       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:56 Joe, I'm really looking forward to the NFC Least draft tmrw nite, I posted my pre-ranks on the board over there 204 BSB       ID: 56632010       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:58 What time is it in Italy, 10pm? That is prime drafting time. 205 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:59 Ok, who switched it over to the Poker skin? Brought the 49ers colors back. If TT doesn't show up soon, I might move over to the IMD site and play with that one too. 206 Joe       ID: 197441310       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 17:30 Nice Jeff! Just saw it. I think I may open it up to public on Thursday to gt some unexpecting people to join. You know, better our chances and all... 207 Joe       ID: 197441310       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 17:37 You know they are supposee to be acitve players that suck though right? Either way, it will be funny to see trotter, Vick, simms, or my freddie mitchell go first. I think I will try it again next year for baseball, that should actually be harder to make a bad team, what do you think? 208 BSB       ID: 2364289       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:03 The new skin on the BW board are the girls he met on the beach in California one day in the early 80's. Later that day he had a premonition and invented the West Coast offense. He went back to look for the girls and realized they were just a fantasy. Nevertheless, the offense remained and it became a very successful fixture in the NFL. Upon his death, he was reunited with his fantasy girls he met that day on the west coast beach. I am getting so bored where is Terry Tate. 209 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:35 With TT being in italy, I guess it's safe to assume he didn't make his pick before hitting the sack. If so, we probably shouldn't expect him to make his pick for a few more hours. 210 Steve       ID: 1376913       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:44 It was 1945 when he was up and it will be 0745 when his time expires. Could this be a problem? 211 Shak       ID: 336361613       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 19:09 1945? What are you looking at? He was on the clock at 12:58pm (IMD) and 1:33pm (BW) ET. He still has almost 6 hours before he busts the time limit. 212 Steve       ID: 1376913       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 19:44 I'm talking about Italy time. 213 BSB       ID: 447532219       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:53 He is going to be cutting it close... his first picks for both leagues were made at around 12:45-12:50am on Tuesday. If that is when he gets around to checking the site he may just make it. 214 Supamario       ID: 87517       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:05 I am in AZ but I am retired Army with a stinkin contractor job at Ft. Huachuca, I have to work 8 hrs but I can go in whenever between 6-9 am hehe Jealous? I usually get in between 7-8 am, I didn't predraft that one because I was out all night playing darts and left my cheat sheet at work. I will try to be a little more snappy. 216 Supamario       ID: 87517       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:18 Texas over Baltimore 30-3??????? Holy crap!! 217 RBP       ID: 186573021       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:20 Foul. 218 Supamario       ID: 87517       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:21 That's sherbet, not sherbert joe, you dumb poopy face 219 Joe       ID: 197441310       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:53 Super Mario I may spelled it wrong if I was referring to Sherbet or Sorbet, which is a frozen dessert made from iced sweetened fruit juice or puree. However, I was referring to Sherbert, which is used to describe the color of Sherbet. Go ahead, look it up on Wikipedia, I just posted an entry which will confirm my little tale! 220 Shak       ID: 526391622       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:04 Tick tick tick. What did we decide about players that bust the time limit? 221 Joe       ID: 197441310       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:28 To be honest, I think there should be a three strike policy. I dont plan on ever busting it or even coming close to doing so, but I one time bust shouldnt take the guy/girl out for a year. But repeat offenders that disregard the law abiding owners should suffer something... 222 Supamario       ID: 87517       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:40 You're still a dumb poopy face 223 Joe       ID: 197441310       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:42 and your still drunk! Do you kiss your mother with that tongue? 224 Supamario       ID: 87517       Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:49 Sometimes....I mean NO! 225 Steve       ID: 27492221       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:07 Post #182 on the previous board I said make arrangements. There were posts before and after about time limits but we didn't decide anything. I guess we should use the old reliable "cuz that's the way we've always done it" decision. I'm don't know what that is but I'm sure we can vote on it in the next two hours before TT blows his time. 226 Shak       ID: 526391622       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:31 TT, Don't mean to rag on you, but you held up both leagues for over 11 hours. That's not cool. 227 Steve       ID: 27492221       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:39 Can we all agree from this point forward that we won't take 11 hours to make a pick? 228 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:40 It's inevitable, he is going to bust his time limit. 229 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:42 Gcobb hasn't signed in for a while. I am going to bed and will check in before I head out to work tomorrow. I will come home for lunch again too. 230 Shak       ID: 526391622       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 00:52 RBP, you might be right. How does everyone feel about doing away with the time limit? 231 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 01:05 Wont happen again. I apologize. Im emailing my phone number to RBP just in case. 232 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 01:20 Mike Z I can call you anytime you want, no worries. GCobb is now clogging both drafts....hopefully he hasn't gone to bed. What time is it in Italy anyways? EST plus 6-7 hours? 233 Shak       ID: 526391622       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 01:20 Thanks, TT. 234 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 09:00 I can't be bothered to waste my breath on how to not delay a draft....everyone has there reasons why they couldn't check in...I think the best one was when "Joe had to have a Coke bottle removed from his Arse resulting in a very delicate 2 hours operation"...Not sure how he sat on that bottle..but it still delayed the draft. 235 BSB       ID: 56632010       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 09:44 If people can't (or don't want to) make arrangements to draft their 3rd and 4th round picks promptly, I can't imagine how long the late rounds are going to take... 236 Joe       ID: 66201615       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 09:51 I Drafted with the bottle in ednecks, its called multi-tasking 237 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 10:18 When did you remove the Gerbil, after the draft!! 238 RBP       ID: 186573021       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 10:20 I have story to tell after I make both of my picks... 239 Joe       ID: 66201615       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 10:43 kinda just lost it, strange huh? 240 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 10:51 What time is it here? Im not sure based on your time zone. So here is an example. If the early football games are at noon they will be at 7pm here. Does that help? How about this example. If a train leaves Baltimore going 50 kph and and plane leave L.A. going 400 mph...wait a sec, Joe had a Coke bottle in his ass?? I know you can clean off battery terminals with it but what the hell kind of home remedy is that? 241 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 11:04 after consulting commonsense.com, I am 8 hours ahead of EST. Wish I had checked that before drafting Brandon Jacobs in both the Iron Mike and Bill Walsh leagues. 242 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 11:05 Your a good egg Joe...I'm an A$$hole! 243 Jeff G.       ID: 397432311       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:43 Brandon Jacobs...........YUK!! Eli, even worse!!!!!!! 244 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:54 Curious, who do you like better in 2007.... B. Jacobs C. Portis B. Jackson anybody? 245 Joe       ID: 66201615       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:00 anyone playing for the giants and sucking the place up is good for me! BTW, its a good thing we started this draft so early... 246 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:32 I predict that Portis will have the Least amount of fantasy points at years end between those three. Jacobs and Jackson are close, not 100% sold on either but like both better than CP. My 2 cents. 247 BSB       ID: 56632010       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:37 Jacobs... Jackson may be splitting a lot of carries in the early going... and although Jacobs will split some with Droughns, there is more assurance Jacobs will be getting the goal line carries than BJack 248 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:38 I think Grim Reaper and Travis have work issues, they seem to be the two people holding up the draft..not sure why they don't pre-draft if that's the case. TT had a drunk night out on the town, I think he's back in the fold. A healthy Portis is better then both those guys..just depends on how many touches Betts gets, I'd go out on a limb and say Jackson will eventually be the man...Jacobs scares me... 249 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:51 Ed I agree that a healthy Portis is easily better than the other two, I just think he's too banged up to be a true #1 RB and I seriously doubt he'll be reliable enough to justify his draft slot as a #2 RB. I'm just avoiding him altogether. 250 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:09 Portis will get his touches but I think Jacobs has a more upside. With Brandon Jackson's inexperience I'm worried whether or not he will pan out....as a Packer fan. Got to wait and see for him, in the meantime I'll steer clear. 251 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:12 still waiting on that story from RBP. 252 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:20 So their I am, doing some extensive research on my next few pick in both leagues as I'm awaiting TT to pick. I go read articles on TSN, footballguys, CBS about a few players that are available. I crunch numbers regarding bye weeks, who these players play during key weeks, look deep into ADP to see who I could get in the next rounds etc. I finally, after exhaustive research think I've found THE ONE PLAYER WHO FITS ALL OF MY NEEDS, and I've convinced myself that at this stage in the game he's a GREAT VALUE PICK. So I go to bed, convinced that my "guy" who I've pre-selected in both leagues is going to be there and I'm proud of myself for "finding" this so called diamond in the rough. Well lo and behold GCobb screws up my whole plan by selecting Tatum Bell 2 picks before me, sending me into a tail spin. So this morning I was a little dissapointed but what are you going to do. I actually put more time into my 4th round pick than my 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder combined...and I didn't even get my guy. Collosal waste of time :-) 253 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:26 It's not a good story. Just had to get it off my chest that Cobb "screwed me". I'm in deep trouble if Tatum Bell is teh key to my season...that being said I think in Detroits offense he will be #2 RB worthy as the season plays out. Mark it down, we can discuss it again as the season plays out. 254 BSB       ID: 56632010       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:27 Although, you should have somewhat prepared for that, as Tatum Bell was the only legit starter left on the board 255 BSB       ID: 56632010       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:28 I should have just said starter.. let's see how he does with that DET O-line this year 256 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:15 Scotty that was more interesting then Joe's bottle story, but it does hurt when your licking your chops over a player and he goes right in front of you..My wifes says I get that digusted look on my face and she knows the Fantasy world has screwed me again. 257 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:51 everyone gets that when the position they want next goes before they can jump on it 258 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 17:55 BSB--I was somewhat prepared for it because I picked another player...it's that I was LOCKED AND LOADED on Player A, and invested lots of time deciding that Player A was THEE GUY and he goes the pick prior while I'm sleeping. I didn't see it coming, blind sided by GCobb swooping in to cherry pick TATUM FREAKIN BELL away from me. Side note--UFC 74 is Sat night, I hope your watching UFC because it is an AWESOME sport. 259 RBP       ID: 66141614       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:17 I just tried to call TT because he's OTC, no answer, will keep calling. 260 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 19:08 hey jeff, my cell isnt working at all, sprint is out I guess. Are you taking part in the draft tonight? I may just sit around for the first couple rounds to see if anyone is there and their reactions to our picks. I made my first pick Vick. I also opened it to the public so ther eare 10 teams and I know that they have no idea what they signed up for. The loser gets and starts LT! 261 BSB       ID: 37202319       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:20 Joe- they are not getting it... and by the way call me when i pick next in this league... this sucks with people either forgetting to pick or unable to RBP- I try and not invest too much in any possible pick because it is usually taken from me before I can get it. Remember, if u want him chances are other teams do as well. 262 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:27 I find it odd that we are waiting on someone that posted just two hours prior to when it was his turn to select, and he only had 4 people b4 him when he posted the message. Pre-draft people, if you are fifth up, pick the top five guys you want, six if it makes you feel better, cause your only gonna get one of them anyway... 263 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:31 im gonna be away from the computer for a couple hours BSB, so I wont be able to tell you anything, good luck though 264 BSB       ID: 297372319       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:37 Per Philly Inquirer: "Britt Reid, the son of Eagles coach Andy Reid, was taken into custody in Plymouth Township this afternoon after failing a sobriety test that followed his driving into a shopping cart, said Joe Lawrence, the assistant police chief. Reid was taken to Mercy Suburban Hospital for a blood test to check for drugs and alcohol, said Lawrence. Reid, 22, is out on bail awaiting sentencing in another criminal case: Earlier this month, he pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and three other criminal charges stemming from a road-rage case." WOW- seriously Britt, don't leave home. 265 BSB       ID: 357392319       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:39 OK Joe. I set up my queue in the other league but dont want to exit the draft application because I am not sure if it will stick- so people in there will have to wait the full 90 seconds. 266 Joe       ID: 197441310       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:50 Jeff, were gonna throw off the yahoo ranking system when they see Vick go in the first, Grossman in the second, trotter and Washington D in the third, chris simms Houston D in the fourth. For some reason the Kyle Orton and Aaron Rodgers pick makes me laugh everytime I look at it 267 BSB       ID: 527362320       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 21:36 TT, please see post #231 268 Steve       ID: 67202321       Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 22:20 Donald Driver carted off the field with a foot injury. Sorry STB and Edneck, probably not that serious. They use the cart as a precaution all the time. 269 Shak       ID: 526391622       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:36 BSB, TT is a man of his word -- he only took 8 hours for this pick. 270 Joe       ID: 66201615       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 02:42 3 things, shak is funny, this is proof that ednecks has slept twice in the last two years, 3 if I knew kitna would still be here in the bill walsh league I would have taken Duece last round. oh well. goodnite gentlemen 271 Supamario       ID: 356142522       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 04:09 Waiting on Ednecks? Whoa! 272 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 07:26 Chicago Bears D? Did we really wait for that pick to be made? Tribe! 273 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 07:59 post #13 274 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:07 Well I screwed up, did not mean to pick cotchery, I thought I was still predrafting for the 4th round pick and did not know ednecks went, everyone went and my predraft got all screwed up, I am mad... 275 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:18 Yeah blame it on me...He He 276 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:22 So the question is, can tribe change his pick after picking a D rather then a player? 277 BSB       ID: 2364289       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:23 So what happens with the Chicago D pick? We are still not drafting defenses, unless I missed something, right? 278 Shak       ID: 526391622       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:25 That's correct, we are not drafting defenses. Tribe needs to change his pick. 279 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:30 The can of worms. This is what the 11th round was suppose to be for! 280 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:31 Didn't the same thing happen last year? 281 BSB       ID: 2364289       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:34 OK I'll be away from a computer all day... made my pre-drafts so I should be good... I don't think Rd 6 BW will make it up to me... if it does Joe call me.. I should be back around 5-6 EST 282 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:37 yep, and what was accomplished rule wise? Unclear to me! Guy waits 11 hours to make his pick and picks a category that does not even exist and he gets to re pick, meanwhile, someone makes a valid mistake, typo, brain fart, whatever and takes alot less to pick and he is stuck with that mistake. Still doesnt make sense to me, and that was what the 11th round should have been for. Thank you tribe for pointing this out again... 283 Shak       ID: 526391622       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:40 Actually, he busted the time limit and the computer selected a defense for him. That was an error with the setup, but I don't know if there's a way for me to prevent that. Since it was the computer that selected the defense, I went in and gave him the highest rated player available, KW3. 284 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 09:04 So we waited 12 hours for you to draft for him? Awesome. 285 Midget Mauler       ID: 30738125       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 10:03 Fellas, im back online but with a shitty wireless connection here in Florida. Ill check in a coupel times a day to see whats going. Is there a way that i can check on that site who all has been drafted and in what order so i can keep track. Scotty can you give me a call when you get a chance. 286 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 11:04 on the league main page at the top click reports then league then draft. Shows all picks in order. 287 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 12:44 ALso to see everyone Rosters: click reports, then Franchise, then Rosters and you will see everyone's team roster with bye weeks. 288 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 12:53 or to see everyones times scroll to the bottom of the page. Also Jeff, I meant to tell you, i found your Bill Walsh/Westcoast O story very compelling. 289 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 13:11 WHooooooooo..Compelling... 290 Joe       ID: 197441310       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 14:18 I have to say now as I look at the two leagues going, the lack of pre-drafting is really strange. Is it lazy, or people just want to draft at the moment they are due. There have been a couple times when about 6 or 7 teams pre drafted in a row which speeds things up, but seriously, if you have less then five teams ahead of you your options are there, its not gonna change. Cant force anyone to pre-draft, I Know that, that is why the time limits were put in place (so the person that busts the limit is awarded the highest ranked player left? What ever happened to the person just drafting when they finally get back to the board. If they loses 6 positions its their own fault so who really cares) It is just that waiting over 24 hours to draft just once in a league is not much fun. I Know we have plenty of time till the season starts, but whatever, I Just feel like venting, been a bad week and this has taken my mind off some things, when Im active in it. 291 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 14:27 I'm with you 100% Joe. Heck, looking at some of the players drafted by some teams, they might be better off timing out and letting the site draft for them. ;) 292 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 16:47 I've been speaching this for 3 years, your just wasting your time, people will do what they want.. 293 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 19:22 2 years ago I was drafting out of the 18th spot and the first round wasn't moving fast. I didn't want to set a queue for both picks because how much would it suck to get back to back RBs with the same bye weeks? A lot would be the answer. I remember something giving me hell for holding that draft up for a while (yes-during my sleep time) and for the last two years they've had plenty of long spells between their own picks. Anytime the draft gets within 10 picks of me it isn't hard to set a queue. The only exception would be if I know I am available to keep checking in and if it's at a point where I might want to grab a QB or see how the draft is flowing. 5 picks away is an auto queue unless, like now, I am on my computer dicking around. Oh well, Ed is right. 100% guarantee it will happen again next year. The good news is that we started in plenty of time to finish early in spite of those with the long wait times. 294 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 01:08 Back to posts #54/#55 - No idea where you came up with those numbers, but I just happened to be digging in last years threads and saw that I finished 3rd and 8th. Nothing to write home about, but better than 9th and 11th. 295 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 01:43 We haven't heard from the Tribe in a long time. Does anyone have any contact with him? He busted the time limit with his last pick and is on the way to busting it again. Are we going to have to robo his team the rest of the way? 296 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 02:08 Tribe busted out last year and I believe was awarded Carson Palmer after being skipped for about 13 picks. I found this in last years thread: Pick 6.06 HarmonJ selected Bears, Chicago CHI Def I thought it happened last year too. That wasn't an auto-pick, though. Here were the longer (2 hours+) draft times after 7 rounds from last season: Average Time Waiting For Pick To Be Made in WP Midget Mauler 7 hours, 51 minutes 7 TrashHaulers 2 hours, 14 minutes 8 Tribe 2 hours, 9 minutes 7 Average Time Waiting For Pick To Be Made in RW Terry Tate 3 hours, 42 minutes 7 Midget Maulers 2 hours, 39 minutes 7 Tribe 4 hours, 18 minutes 7 Gum Sellers 2 hours, 20 minutes 8 297 Edneck       ID: 4110311923       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 09:08 The talent lessens and the draft time's rise...happens every year! 298 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 10:52 ok, so Im stuck on my next pick. Who do you think is the stronger RB Ovie Mughelli CHI or RB Garrett Wolfe CHI? Im thinking its almost even except Ovie has more vowels in his name. But Ovie may lose a few carries to Garrett. So its really a tough call. 299 Joe       ID: 66201615       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:25 Strange that both people I invited into this league got the first pick(LT)in both leagues. Does anybody besides me think this thing is fixed? I demand answers and I demand them NOW! 300 Steve       ID: 43758520       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:52 Scott selects two players with the same bye weeks with his first two picks and now that we're in the SEVENTH round, he's worried about bye week deconfliction??!! 301 Shak       ID: 43758520       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:01 I guess that means he took your player (Schaub)? 302 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:12 Yes, because I disregarded bye weeks in the early rounds I'M FORCED to deconflict in the latter. 303 RBP       ID: 186573021       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:16 "Also Jeff, I meant to tell you, i found your Bill Walsh/Westcoast O story very compelling." What story, enlighten me please. 304 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:58 RBP, it is POST #208 305 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 14:56 Hey, maybe we should acquire the good old battle buddy or wing man tactics. I Mean everyone in this league knows someone right? And most of us can be reached by phone right? So when you see your buddy is up it is your job to notify them, or you both get extra duty and and an article 15. I'll take in Mario and BSB as my buddies, and Im sure they will do the same for me. I've clean enough bathrooms/latrines in my life to not let them down! 306 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:42 OK, who has a hand receipt on Midget Mauler? OTC for both divisions! 307 Midget Mauler       ID: 30738125       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:17 i have already drafted. I was in the middle of a double header and i was still about 8 guys away when i left. So i was only on the clock for about an hour if that. Ill be out the rest of the evening for another wonderful one. 308 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:19 i would love to take that one back right now, did not realize I already had someone with a bye week of 8, no one has drafted yet so what do you say? 309 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:16 Im patient...I play PS baseball all night and periodically keep checking.......until I pass out. Be patient please. 310 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:26 Who are you talking to tiny? 311 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:27 your up midget man 312 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:37 I'm the damn office linebacker!!! Dont think I wont toss you into a frigging water cooler or weak ass sectional!! Smear some damn icing on face in the process. Unless of course you are RBP's size. I couldn't budge that dude. 313 BSB       ID: 2364289       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 20:20 wow I'm back from a long weekend of helping the in-laws move in to their new house. And I see no one had to wait for me. I used this feature that's quite complex but I figured it out, nonetheless, called the pre-draft queue. It really works wonders I have to tell you. Anyway just sitting here on my Nth beer and seeing the draft has been moving swimmingly. I love my teams. IM is kinda like my Scarlett Johannson and RW is my Liz Hurley, a little worn and risky (vag. rejuvination, maybe?) but I still will show her off to anyone who cares. OK check back on my Xth beer and maybe get some food. Its hot as hell here in the Northeast! 314 bsb       ID: 2364289       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 20:22 THAT last message took me 4 tries to post b/c I couldnt pass thru the banned word filters. anyway- SUCCESS! 315 TB       Sherpa       ID: 031811922       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 20:46 I am going out to drink beers. I think I set up my queues to last a couple rounds...not that either draft will probably get back to me today. 316 BSB       ID: 2364289       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 20:52 If the phillies dont win this game I am gonna draft a COwboy AND a Giant.. oh wait... 317 Joe       ID: 197441310       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 21:58 The in-lwas? 318 BSB       ID: 2364289       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 22:24 yea basically/... by the way (hate words) the phillies and it sickens me how they (sexually explicit words) out in this latest loss. I am done with baseball 319 BSB       ID: 2364289       Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 22:59 should we start a new thread? 320 Joe       ID: 66201615       Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 01:28 I think so BSB...hey midget man? 321 terry tate       ID: 5721192       Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 05:38 I made my pre-draft picks for the next round just in case. I'll be out the rest of today. Not sure it will even get to me by then. 322 Shak       ID: 526391622       Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 10:11 New thread started. 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