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Subject: Pat Tillman Invitational Recap and Discussion

Posted by: barilko6 - [12742299] Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:23

New posting, honoring last year's champ, Fighting Seabees' (Dwfffan) choice of a former NFL stand-up player.

barilko6
ID: 12742299
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:25

Draft Recap Questions:

1. Summary of Your Own Team
2. Favorite Picks
3. Sleeper Picks
4. Reaches
5. Teams to Beat
6. Anything you Like to Add

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:40

1) I like my chances. Figure on starting Green/Cutler at QB. Green is the question mark here but he has a history of performing well even w/o an abundance of quality rcvrs. My RBs are both top 5-7 picks in virtually every draft out there. Gotta like the potential from the two of them for both yards and TDs. WRs, I may be hurting a bit for awhile. Ward is always solid, but Driver suffered a ft injury last week. Something of a question there. Chris Henry wont be available until week 9, but if he comes on and does well, he could find himself as a keeper for next year.

2) My pick of Cutler in rd 6 and dwffans getting M Turnewr in rd 10. Turner is a free agent next year, and I see him as a starter in almost any city other than SD. Solid selection that late in the draft.

3)I took 3 of these "longshot sleepers":
Z Miller TE Oak, L Booker RB Miami and A Rodgers QB GB. Of the 3, Booker is probably the least likely to panout. Favre HAS to be done after this season (he's eligible for Social Security next year isnt he?), and Rodgers is the heir apparent in GB which makes him a potential keeper along with Cutler at QB for next year. Miller, was a bye week replacement who from what I have seen/read/heard...looks promising.

4) Sorry Barilko, but A Peterson in rd 6 was a reach IMHO. Especiallym when M Lynch still on the board. Possibly in the longrun, Peterson will do more, but Lynch will have the bigger yr this season and next I think.

5) I like Frick, Stray Doug, Golf and myself frankly. (In no particular order.) There are your "4 to beat" aka playoff teams. :)

barilko6
ID: 12742299
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:07

My strategy this year was to stack up on RB's and QB's that have starting jobs. Last year I got burned with some of my choices, and this year it looks like I have a lot of high risk picks as
well.

I had a hard time with the first pick overall, flipping between Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, and Jay Cutler. I ended up going with AP based on highest ceiling factor.

Favorite Picks:
Jerious Norwood in 8th round. Sad to say, that might be the only one! haha

Reaches
Now that I look over my team, I have a ton of reaches. A lot of players I was looking at came off the board just before I was hoping to get them. I hope JaMarcus starts sometime this year, as well as Michael Bush.

Teams to Beat:

Will just say something about every team here (remembering all this insight is coming from the last place manager)

Sarge: If Tavaris has a decent season, Sarge has some players that could push him up in the standings a little. Jackson and Westbrook together will equal some wins. Having 2 TEs and 2 Kickers really hurts flexibility though. Unfortunately, I would say Sarge would be fighting hard to get into the top half of the standings.

JTSerb: Has 2 nice QB's, but is giving up 2 weeks without having a third QB to cover off byes, as they don't share the same bye week. RB's could be shaky, as there are 4 guys with some big question marks on their backs. That being said I like Tatum a lot, Lynch has no competition for the job, and Benson is handcuffed with Peterson. WR's are extremely solid, and hold good trade value to help fill holes at QB. Prediction: Bottom half of standings, unless a third QB is added.

Wiggs: Like last year, has the cream of the crop when it comes to WR. When looking at the QBs though, I flinch a little. Has a great collection of RBs though, so with the power at RB and WR, maybe that can help make up for the QB weakness. Also really like Vernon Davis at the TE spot. Will stay in the top half of the standings, and challenge for a playoff spot if one of either Pennington or Grossman has a decent season.

Chuck Taylor: My favorite collection of QB's from any team, other than my own of course! Hasselback will have a great comeback year I think, and Carson is always solid. Garcia is a Gruden type of guy and should put up solid bye week numbers when needed. Questions with RBs and WR's will hold this team down to the lower half of the season, unless Jones and Jackson step up and claim the undisputed RB chair on their respective teams.

Electroman: Nice collection of players across the board. If Culpepper can keep a starting job and play close to his preseason stats, if Alex Smith can continue last year's improvements, this team has enough pieces to move into the playoffs. A lot hinges on the RB Williams Boys to assert themselves as bonafide number one guys though. WR crop is above average. A playoff contender.

Frick: Nice set of players across the board. Solid 3 QBs, good collection of RBs, and both skill and potential at the WR slots. If Ronnie Brown can bounce back from last year's season, there is a lot to like about seeing this team in the Championship Finals come year end.

Promize: Needs one of his RBs to step up and get some stats. James and Jordan were disappointments last season, and need to bounce back for this team to have a chance. Ahman also needs to get his numbers. Has QB weakness, with no third guy to help cover off differing Bye weeks, which hurts bad in two weeks of the standings. Also handicapping his team with two kickers and two tight ends. Unless a third QB is added, this team will find itself lower in the standings as well.

RusselDL: A solid top 2 QB combo, with hopes that Croyle is starting by week 9 to cover off the two late season byes, which is very possible. Not sure if there is enough depth at either RB or WR though, with a lot of flexibility lost on extra slots used for QB, TE, and defense. A middle of the pack team, that could jump up depending on the RB's and the KC QB situation.

Doug: Solid players across the board, helped by handcuffing his biggest question mark, the Jacksonville QB situation. A good collection of RBs, WRs, and QB's will see this team in the Playoffs. If Calvin produces as advertised, might challenge for the best set of WRs in the league.

Golf: Got good value late on QB's, but is it enough to carry this team? Farve is always a good fantasy option, especially being in the same division as Detroit and Minny. Any team with LT is always worthy of playoff mention, and with Rudi and Brandon Jackson helping, this team will be solid yet again. If Huard or Schaub hold up, then this team will be there fighting for the championship.

Fighting Seabees: Qb situation is scary. Harrington has another shot, but trouble follows him everywhere it seems! From crappy Detroit, to Marijuana Miami Williams, and now Dogtown Vick, hopefully he can put things together. Delhomme is nicely handcuffed by Carr, but unless Clemons steps up earlier than expected, there is a hole here. Nice collection of underrated WRs to go with solid RBs will see the Seabees in the top half, but not in the playoffs unless a nice waiver acquisition is made.

Barilko: Of course I have to slam my team too! My QB collection is nice, but they all share the same bye week, so week 6 is a write off unless a trade is made. Never rule out a trade! If JaMarcus takes the reins early on, I have 4 great options to plug in any week, depending on matchups. I like my RBs, so long as AP gets the touches and stays healthy. McGahee has sucked this preseason, and I hope he can get going. Have some potential with Norwood, M. Bush and Henry, and hopefully those guys get some touches as the season carries on. My WRs suck, probably the worst collection of targets in our league, which will hold me back like last year. My TE is a big sleeper, but could bomb out. I do plan on making the playoffs, and once there will make some noise!!!

barilko6
ID: 12742299
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:08

Sarge...At least we agreed on 3 of the playoff teams... :)

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:27

np. The fact that you project me in the bottom half of the league, absolutely garauntees me a play-off birth! Thanks!!!!!!!

barilko6
ID: 12742299
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 13:00

Yeah....as stated, those reviews were the opinions expressed of the last place team from 2006, and do not necessarily reflect the sound and wise reviews of a smarter manager.

Promize
ID: 55223275
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 18:15

Possibly right about the kickers, didn't have to go that right... But if you think having A. Gates and H. Miller as a handicap, urr ok?

QB's, 2 loses you say? I can live with that, your saying then my team is bound for a 12-2 record as is :)

Yah, agree with RB's lots of disappointing last year RB's that I hope improve this year :)

barilko6
ID: 177272923
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 00:29

Only a handicap because you can only slot one in on any given week, as they cannot be slotted into the W/R position. To me Gates is an every week starter no matter what the matchup.

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:30

I'm suprised at how close the teams came out to be in my projections, typically I see a couple of teams that look very strong and some that look very weak. I think this is often a result of the different rating services that are used.

When I compare just the starters I see 8 teams that have a shot at the play-offs, and depending on injuries that probably moves to all 12 teams, but again that is a result of how close the teams are matched talent wise. Among the starters I haev JTSerbs as the top team, but only by 42 points over the course of the season, or 2.6 points per game. An extremely small # that each team will probably average 70 points each week.

I think I did quite well considering I only had 4 keepers, I quite possibly see my 5th keeper being one of my first drops. I sent a couple of feeler e-mails about trading draft picks in return for a potential keeper, but due to work and home getting in the way I didn't get anything worked out prior to the keeper deadline. I'm curious what people feel a fair trade would have been? I was looking for a player that another manager wasn't going to keep, still an upgrade over my 5th keeper in return for a 2-3 round upgrade around rounds 9-10. One of the offers that I had was to move back in the first round, which I thought was to steep of a price in return for a player that wasn't going to be kept.

Part of my problem was injuries last year. I had 2 QBs on the bench for the 2nd half of the season McNabb and Chris Simms. I had to keep McNabb and all of the reports were that Simms would recover by this season. Oh yeah, my other QB was Michael Vick, in our point system he was actually a good QB. So from the end of last year I went from having 3 solid QB keepers to 1. I was hoping to possibly upgrade either a draft pick or player with that arrangement, but instead I was left with only 1 QB keeper and due to the roster restraints fairly thin at other positions.

I know that I don't have a K at this point, and I probably won't until the start of the season as I watch how the young WR on my team are doing. Will I get a top flight K, no, but the difference between Ks is so small that it isn't a great sacrifice.

barilko6
ID: 46637248
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 16:20

Do we have someone who can plug our teams into the assimilator to see how we all fare?

Do you all want me to get the Yahoo site up and running now, or wait until after the weekend so that people aren't away when it comes to claiming undrafted players?

One last thing...how do waivers work before the season starts, first come first serve? The question being, I will have to assign a waiver listing. I would think I would rank them from 12 down to 1 based on the draft order, as they would reset based on standings during the season anyways.

Thoughts?

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 16:27

In every league I'm in, waivers are closed post draft and pre game 1.

barilko6
ID: 67253017
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:25

That sounds fair...

barilko6
ID: 67253017
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:34

Rosters entered, and we are ready to go.

I love how Yahoo lets you enter the rosters as you draft. You can enter 1 or 1000 players at a time if you want, just save it and finish entering the rest of the players later. Really makes entering all the players quite easy, and lets you do it when you want. Good job Yahoo!

Promize
ID: 55223275
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:12

Total Strength

Starter Strength

Weekly Points

GolfFreak
ID: 4239422
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 11:20

Waiver wire.

Sound ok. But if you have a player that gets hurt in pre-season. Sure would be nice if you could pick up a player before game 1. EX. If you picked only 1 kicker. And the bum trys to make a tackle and the gets hurt during a pre-season game. ;O

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 11:59

I have a slight issue if we aren't going to have any WW transactions prior to the start of the first game. I had assumed that there would be a time where we could make claims.

GolfFreak
ID: 4239422
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:52

assumed me too. Last year they were open before the 1st game.

Hey when do we get are winning from last year???

barilko6
ID: 52261810
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 15:15

I can open the WW without any problems at all. Do we want a claiming process, or just an open claim? I can suggest that I will unlock waivers at noon on Wednesday, and therefore everyone can have a first come first serve at the exact same time, knowing the exact same things.

As for last year's winnings, I can't remember who was in charge of collecting, but I have asked a number of times about the status of the fees, but never gotten a response...

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 15:39

I was in charge of collecting, I've need some help from everyone, mainly your real names. If everyone want's to e-mail me your real name I'll update.

As for the WW, I would suggest keeping it closed until the last pre-seaon game and open it up next Tuesday or Wednesday before the Thursday night game. That prevents someone from taking advantage of an injury in a pre-seaon game this weekend.

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 15:09

1. Well, looking over my team, I like it a lot betting than the one I had last year. I really like my WR's. 3 guys that are prime targets. One Williams could over take another on my depth chart at RB if things work out well. My QB situation scares me. I hope that I didn't make a mistake trading Brees.

2. None of my picks really stick out as a favorite.

3. Steve Smith could end up as a stater sometime this year.

4. I also have to say that Peterson is a reach. Barilko6 basically had 6 keepers, and let him get away. Cutler was at the top of my board. Also, Dwfffan taking Harrington with J.P. Losman still on the board.

5. One team that sticks out is Wiggs. Nice team. JTSerb has a nice team as well as Golfreak. I don't see a repeat winner this year.

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 17:32

#20: In my defense I loaded a queue and forgot to prioritize it. I by no means wanted Harrington as my first choice, or second for that matter. It was a mistake that I will have to live with. As far as a repeat winner this year, I agree.

barilko6
ID: 27831119
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 20:51

Yeah, I thought for a long time on my first pick overall. Was debating between AP, Lynch, and Cutler. I saw Losman available and figured he had a good chance of dropping down to me, so I narrowed it down to the RB's.

I figure Lynch was the better pick for this year, but AP has better home run potential. Seeing AP go first overall in many keeper league drafts helped me feel better about things too.

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 22:03

That is why I hate drafting with a queue. You don't get the same feel for the draft as when you make your own picks. But, to be polite, we have to do it.

barilko6
ID: 52261810
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 17:16

Hey there all...

Check your team on Yahoo to make sure I didn't make any mistakes.

As for waivers before the season starts, we have two options.

I don't want to have the teams frozen, as we never stated that we would have frozen rosters for week one, and some people need to fill positions yet.

SO....

Option 1 Open waiver free for all, starting at 13:00 EST on Wednesday, and then closing before gametime on Thursday for the rest of the weekend.

Option 2 Submit hidden waiver claims to me with priority going in reverse order of our drafting order.

russelldl
ID: 466412420
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 17:51

I'd vote for option 2

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 18:51

Option 2

barilko6
ID: 1287218
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 19:07

Even though I would be last in the order, I also think 2 is the fairest.

JTSERB
ID: 2751170
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 19:11

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 19:41

Doug
ID: 441251914
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 20:52

I'm fine with 2

Promize@Parents
ID: 31841217
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 20:58

#2 of course... that was the whole point of this discussion... Not everyone can be at the computer 24 hours a day.. Someone who sits at the computer shouldn't have an advantage over someone who has to work...

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:12

#2 is ok with me.

barilko6
ID: 1287218
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:42

31: Agreed. Just wanted to make sure everyone was ok with that, as we never really had anything in place concerning waiver claims before week 1.

Alright, well it looks like we will be having a claiming process.

Send me your claims by 13:00 EST Wednesday. No late claims will be considered.

Be sure on how you want your claims to go. Give second and third options in case your first person is claimed ahead of you. Also make sure to list your team name.

Waivers will be open all day Wednesday after 14:00 to allow free claiming, and then closed at midnight until the next claiming process.

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 10:04

Just a reminder that all waiver claims are due by 13:00 EST tomorrow.

Don't wait until the last second, just in case there is a server issue and I don't get the email in time! (A couple of years ago, the Toronto Maple Leafs made a last second deadline deal for a player named Kyle Wanvig, only to find out that a fax machine jammed, and they missed making the deadline cutoff!)

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 13:41

Waiver Claims:

Doug drops Byron Leftwich and claims Selvin Young.
Barilko drops Tony Schefler and claims Owen Daniels.

Waivers will be opened in about 10 minutes.

Vote

Should waivers be closed as of midnight tonight, the night before the first game

or

Saturday Midnight.

You guys decide

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 13:54

Waiver period open. Pick away!

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 14:07

close them tonight...prior to the 1st game of each week.

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 17:19

close them.

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 17:59

Barilko6, I sent you an e-mail about 23 hrs ago. It was sent to your hot mail account.

barilko
ID: 33832516
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 18:04

Sorry Dwffan....I don't check that one as much. Change made.

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 18:10

thanks!

barilko
ID: 33832516
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 18:15

I was worried that someone else might have picked him up and I would have to earn my Commish title with a hard decision....phew...

I did pick up Charlie Frye once I noticed he was available. Hopefully he is still starting in Week 6

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 19:03

Close tonite.......... very late ;)

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 19:27

Well, guess we have to eat our words on taking Pederson first. What a first day.

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 08:45

Yeah, he looked good, as did Marshawn Lynch. I watched the entire Bills game, and that guy is going to be a great player.

Waiver claims are open until Wednesday noon.

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 09:01

Dang...my starters had a very nice week, but does my bench ever suck.

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 09:32

Barilko6, I'm pretty sure your bench outscored my benches combined 1.1 points.

It's going to be a long year.

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 09:46

my qbs were awesome :)

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 15:47

Alright, even though my team is looking great, due to the lack of response, (Only a small handful of managers replied) we will not be throwing anything extra into the pot this year.

We will just take care of last year's money and go from there, and play for pride and bragging rights.

Sarge, you can play for Brian Brohm.

Promize
ID: 55223275
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 17:32

Actually, me and ChuckT talked about the pot today at work. Wondered why it hadn't been talked about... But now would be to late to do anything about it anyways.

Remind me again how waiver system is going to work? We emailing you or is the system taking care of it?

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 17:33

cple questions from yesterdays games:

1) When did MINN get a "D"????
2) Who was that wearing Romo's uniform last night?
3) How many pro starts does MINN new RB have?????
4) How many people HONESTLY figured that Roethlibergererererer, Eli, and Kitna...would each outscore Peyton with his 3 TD passes on Thurs night?????????????

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 17:47

I totally thought all those things about Adrian Peterson, Kitna, and Roethlisberger.

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 18:16

Minn had a "D" last year, that is why Tomlin has a head coaching job. And I belive that it was Carrie Underwood in the Romo uni last night.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 20:30

I totally thought all those things about Adrian Peterson, Kitna, and Roethlisberger.

cant be a lawyer. They're better liars than that.

;)

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 21:08

#51
1.Minnys D was 4th best last year with 156pts.
BUT dont start putting them up there with CHI or BAL. They did play vs Joey Harrington.
2. Looked like a young Dan Fouts
3. 15
4. Thought maybe Kitna vs Raiders 41-38 but not once those other two flat footers.

Promize
ID: 55223275
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 22:59

Again, how is Waivers working for us? Do we email or is the system doing it for us this week?

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 23:14

Emailing your waiver claims to me.

List all your choices just in case someone claims the person you want. Also make sure to include who you want to drop.

barilko6
ID: 41844107
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 23:21

Come on Sarge...I wouldn't have picked them if I didn't believe in them!!!

Promize
ID: 55223275
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 00:16

Wednesday at what time they due?

barilko6
ID: 38839117
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 08:41

Wednesday by noon.

Doug
ID: 441251914
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 19:42

Remind me, does waiver priority reset or carry over week-to-week? Too many leagues to keep track of, LOL... thanks in advance!

barilko6
ID: 128511121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 22:55

it resets to the last place team each week

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 11:39

barilko email sent

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:01

Got it...

Alright, waiver claims are all in and the claiming period is closed. I will submit all the claims and then open up free agency as of 3:00 pm EST today.

barilko6
ID: 288341213
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 14:40

Quick question...

Someone has put in a waiver claim, and asked for a player to be moved to IR.

Our league doesn't have an IR, so I have emailed that manager for further clarification.

Should I process the claim, releasing the IR player, or wait?

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 14:51

I suggest waiting, until this evening maybe? It can be hard to remember each leagues rules. It really isn't an issue unless someone claims the same player between now and when the other manager gets back to you.

barilko6
ID: 288341213
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 14:54

Claiming process is over as of noon, but I can't open up the free agency process until the situation is cleared up.

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 16:27

I feel like an idiot for not starting Williams. This guy is driving my nuts. I never know what to do with this guy. I start him, he sucks, I bench him, he has a great week.

barilko6
ID: 78381621
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 21:01

Just a reminder that noon tomorrow is the waiver claim deadline.

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 22:30

you got my second email right barilko?

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 09:58

email sent

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 12:04

Waiver Claims Closed.

Received Claims from:

Baltimore
Sarge
Chuck
Golf
Myself

Changes will be made and free agency will be open by 1:00 pm EST.

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 12:16

Sarge, I already had Leftwich on my roster from last week's claiming period.

Chuck, your claim was overrided by others.

Golffreak, you get to keep your cheerleader that you tried to pawn off.

Barilko6
ID: 46637248
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 12:22

Guys...

I have 6 QB's on my roster. I am looking to move any of them for help at WR and/or RB. Would be willing to package any of my current WR/RB in the right deal as well.

I could also use a QB who doesn't have a week 6 bye.

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 12:31

you keep taking players you cant use, and thats what happens.

barilko6
ID: 41841197
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 13:23

Its called speculation Sarge. Now make me an offer already!

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 13:36

Boller for Leftwich

barilko6
ID: 41841197
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 15:17

I will pass on that for now Sarge, I need help at WR and RB at this point...or a starting QB for week 6

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 17:58

McNair keeps playing like he has been, and Boller will be starting by week 6.

barilko6
ID: 57814177
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 18:04

haha....very true. Boller looked good last week, I am just hoping that Leftwich is starting by week 6 as well, and knowing Joey, he should be

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Sep 24, 2007, 21:37

Wow, it is still early, but the trade I made (Brees for Roy Williams) is really looking good for me. The NO offense is really terrible. I have to thank IAC for the advice of not keeping Brees.

wiggs
ID: 2542623
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 00:26

yeah, bad trade for me

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 08:20

my QBs scored a combined -6.55 points Fricking awesome

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 09:38

Guys, I am away all day tomorrow, until around 6:00 pm.

So I am extending the waiver claim email period to that time, 6:00 pm EST.

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 18:07

All claims processed, and free agency is open.

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 10:33

There is a completed trade on the table. If I don't hear any objections by 10:00 AM tomorrow, I am going to allow it.

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 10:38

nothing shows under the "trading block" window. What trade?????

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 10:41

There is a pending trade between Wiggs and Favre.

On a side note, I have the second highest score in the league, but currently sit at 1-2. How does that work?!? lol

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:03

WHAT trade? The site shows nothing, unless you're the commish. Who is giving up whom and what are they getting in return? You cant get feedback, if the other managers have no info re the topic.

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:20

i get Huard and give up T Jones

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:27

thx wiggs.

I got no gripe with that swap.

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:29

i am getting the short end of it, but I need a QB bad

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:34

Are you serious? I am the only one who can see pending trades?

I didn't know that. I will post them here from now on.

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:35

so do I, but I wasnt about to give up Cutler for Huard + I cant recall who, as was requested. Couldnt see a viable counter to make when I was approached, so I simply declined with an explanation as to why.

Cutler hasnt done what I had hoped, but there is still time. Green has been safe, but unspectacular. I need Favre to retire, so Rodgers can get some game time. I need McNair to do the same for Bollers sake, and Warner was awesome in relief last week. Need to hang on this week and see if Wisenhunt yanks Leinart fast. If he does, Warner becomes a viable spot starter.

barilko6
ID: 42828217
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:45

I have extra QB's on the market, Leftwich will cost only a cheap WR or RB.

Losman, Russell, Kitna, and Big Ben also available

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 11:52

with Ward and Jackson both hurt, and Westie on bye in week 5, I had to scramble to pickup some scrubs just to put into starter slots so I could get their 1.1 pts/game contribution. Dont have a cheap WR/RB, that I dont NEED. :(

Got a cple potential QB options on the bench..just like you.

JTSERB
ID: 2751170
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 17:23

I can see the trade just fine...

While just looking at it your like WTF? year right

but its obvious wiggs needs a QB... even its half of one like Huard.

trades ok by me

JTSERB
ID: 2751170
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 17:24

oh yea, and leinart better keep his job! or im an even worse situation as wiggs

barilko6
ID: 44829307
Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 12:13

3 Waivers processed.

Waivers open now.

100

JTSERB
ID: 2751170
Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 18:18

uh, i think i need a QB :) send trades please

101

JTSERB
ID: 2751170
Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 04:28

Really need a QB here... someone trade me one please? :)

102

barilko6
ID: 44829307
Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 09:01

I think with 6 teams on a bye, the market is dry

103

barilko6
ID: 44829307
Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 14:50

Waiver claims made, open season!

104

Promize
ID: 8857295
Mon, Oct 22, 2007, 18:32

Well I guess Miami's record is safe, not going to be undefeated after this week.

105

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 12:18

Waiver claims made, incredibly Jesse Chatman drops all the way down to Electroman, as nobody below him made a claim on him!

106

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 13:02

Waiver claims made.

On a related note, I have too many RB's, and I am looking to move one or two for a QB or WR. (You can ever add JaMarcus to the deal if you are looking towards next year

Running backs on my roster:

Adrian Peterson
Reggie Bush
Willis McGahee
Jerious Norwood
Chris Henry
Ryan Grant (new Green Bay starter)

Send me an offer!

107

barilko6
ID: 1110525
Fri, Nov 02, 2007, 08:58

For those of you that can't see Pending Trades on the Yahoo site:

Barilko Gives:

Willis McGahee
Shuan McDonald

ChuckTaylors Gives:

Wes Welker

108

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Fri, Nov 02, 2007, 11:15

My rationale for the trade:

With Peterson, Bush, and Willis, I would only be able to keep 2 of them at season's end, so might as well get some value now. With my terrible weakness at WR, Welker will be immediate relief. I was trying out a few other bigger proposals, none of which panned out, but I am happy with Welker.

Now if only Andre Johnson can come back to the way he was in the first couple of weeks, this team of mine can make a good playoff run.

109

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 09:59

Me and Barilko6 have just completed a trade.

Electroman gives:
Bobby Engram

Barilko6 gives:
JaMarcus Russell

Well, I was looking at my QB's and thinking that I would have to start over. Then this trade came along. Maybe it can help me a bit this year.

110

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 10:05

trade reject time by the rules, shows 2 days. When was this trade announced for league review?

111

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 10:19

I accepted it this morning.

112

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 10:23

It should have read pending I guess.

113

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 10:52

lol np. Not that I was gonna veto it anyway. But when the post read "completed", I sorta had to scratch my head and wonder how.

114

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 10:53

BTW Sarge, you are really wooping my butt this week.

115

barilko6
ID: 441031115
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 11:21

Yeah, the trade is pending, and is open to discussion.

No need to rush the trade though as I can't use Engram for tonight anyways...lol

116

barilko6
ID: 441031115
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 11:28

Also...if anyone wants to take a cheap flyer on Jerious Norwood for next year, I need a backup QB or WR.

117

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 12:02

re 114...Thats Barilko's fault. He made jest of my verbiage. ;)

118

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:08

Waiver claims processed, free agency is open.

Sarge, I never even knew you had verbiage...

119

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:18

looks like someone neglected to check their email before making moves.

I had J Beck down as my 1st choice waiver pickup, and he went to Serbs. I'm nr 2 in order of executin and he is nr 11.

PLEASE rectify this.

120

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:31

Sarge...

I never got any emails from you at all...can you show me a sent email?

I have checked all my folders, including spam, junk, and recently deleted, and there is nothing from you at all.

I have locked pickups until I hear from you.

121

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:32

I sent it from the website...the "email managers" link.

122

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:34

I have checked all the Yahoo email messages from the last two days, none have been deleted, and none were from you at all...

123

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:36

site courtesy copied my email, and I just fwd'd that to oyu.

124

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:36

Beck was my 1st choice and Croyle was my 2nd. No 3rd choice.

125

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:53

Alright, I am going to make the chance and move Beck to Sarge's roster and nullify the transaction from JTSerb.

I never got the email from Sarge at all, not sure if I was included, or if it is just severely delayed, but he sent a CC to me that had a 7:48 AM timestamp on it.

If anyone has an issue with this, send me an email.

126

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 12:56

Thanks again! Like I said in the email to you, I have seen "lost" emails show up 2 and 3 weeks later, but over thepast 8 years, its happened MAYBE 3 or 4 times.

127

JTSERB
ID: 52471410
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 16:07

This is B/S its not my fault the email system didnt work. Beck should be on my team. If this is not fixed im out

Just j/k :) its no problem, email system especially through yahoo is terrible. Beck rightfully went to Sarge

but i still need a QB :(

128

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 10:37

Just a note:

The trade between Sarge and I includes Sarge getting my 4th round pick next year and me getting his last round pick.

So:

Sarge Gives:

Shockey
Last Round Pick

Barilko6 Gives:

Jerious Norwood
4th Round Pick

129

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 11:13

On the surface, its a horrible trade for me. So, I think an explanation of my thought processes are in order here:

1) My season is in the tank. SJs virtual season long injury, combined with Greens early exit, combined with Wards earlier troubles....all added up to put me in the tank. I'm 3-7, yet only 4 teams have more Pts for than I do. *shrug*

2) We name 5 keepers, and are limited to 2 in any given slot. If we named yesterday: Cutler/Delhomme; Westbrook/SJ; Shockey. After this trade: sub Bowe for Shockey and I get an extra early draft pick next year. Hopefully, I can add eitehr depth at a slot, or pickup a competent rcvr, so that I am not so "lacking" in that dept. If Bowe continues to devleop, he could become one of the next "great" WRs, given what he has done with his rookie campaign.

3) If Cutler continues to struggle, and if Beck (Mia) proves himself, then he may be in line as a long-term keeper instead. THAT, was my htinking when I went for him off the waiver wire.

130

Promize
ID: 8857295
Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 19:04

Ummm... something isnt' right, my lineup got adjusted sometime today while I wasn't home... I know for sure A. Green was not in my lineup this morning... Edge was. Is there any timestamps? trying to find transaction moves etc...

131

barilko6
ID: 2210201912
Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 13:22

Alright, well because it will basically decide first place, I will look for managers to provide input here.

There are no timestamps for team changes, other than free agent pickups and commissioner moves.

Any thoughts from league members?

132

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 13:28

Looking at the manager thing on yahoo it shows no changes were made by Promize since Friday, so if something was changed it was done by someone else.

133

GolfFreak
ID: 369582419
Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 17:37

I had some problems with the new drag and drop earlier this year. "IF" you submit changes and it asks for your password(every 2weeks) you must (re) submit move after login back in. Just a thought! But why would he(PROMISE) in any undrunk state of mind, put Green from off the bench to replace Edge? He didnt have him in from last week. A drag and drop error? Trying to move Lamont to bench. Left screen up @ libary and some kids made the move? But it does seems weird. But it is the manager job to check roster. That why we get paid the big bucks!
Guess we hope that Selvin Young scores 6.37 more then the Tenn Def. Glad im not the League Commissioner !!!!!

134

Promize
ID: 8857295
Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 18:17

It was checked, about 45 minutes before I left for the day. And I know my dog didn't do it... no kids... no roommates...

I'm trying to see what possible case I could of done to make that error happen, but I don't see any.

Brought L. Jordan off the lineup... Moved Fred Taylor up to that RB spot. Cotchery then got put into the W/R slot. Edge should of never been moved out for any reason that I can see, especially since Jordan is on the bench.

Whatever the league consensus says is fine with me, hopefully Titans D makes it a no brainer. I've been in these horrible commish positions before and it isn't easy.

135

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 11:53

Well considering the entire league was emailed, and nobody has voiced any concern over the matter, all the managers that have voiced an opinion seem fine to allow Edge to be placed back onto the roster.

The one voice that I was hoping to hear from was Doug, as it seems to affect him the most.

If there are no other things said, I will change the rosters, which effectively means that the matchup between Doug and Promize will be reversed, resulting in a win for Promize and a loss for Doug. That will also affect claiming priorities for tomorrow.

Last chance to speak your mind!

136

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 18:46

Was yahoo emailed? I don't know if it is possible for them to see what activity was done?

137

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 18:51

Probolem with that, is that YAHOO will answer if and when they get around to it. I'd think you MIGHT hear from them, about the time our 2012 draft begins.

138

barilko6
ID: 01042218
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 09:42

Man...two hard rulings in one week!

Well, since nobody has objected at all, and since all of those actually commenting are in favor of the switch, I am going to make the roster change for Promize's team.

Thought process:

Ahman Green was listed as being out before Friday's game, AND, he wasn't active in a previous week, (meaning he wasn't a leftover from the Week 10 roster) which leads me to believe that an error occurred.

ROSTER MOVES

Since we have Thursday games, do I lock all pickups as of noon tomorrow???

139

barilko6
ID: 01042218
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 09:52

I just noticed that Doug has added two free agents this morning. They will be deleted from his roster and are available to be picked up at today's deadline claim.

140

barilko6
ID: 01042218
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 10:04

Alright, Promize's roster has been changed, and Yahoo states that it could take up to 24 hours before the standings are reflecting that change.

That being said...this is going to solve our locked players situation:

After Noon on Thursday, any players that play on Thursday will not be eligible to be picked up or dropped at all.

That still enables all managers to make necessary changes for the Sunday/Monday games if they so wish.

141

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 12:46

Surprisingly I didn't receive any waiver claims other than from myself.

I will make the changes, and the free agency will be open at 2:00 PM EST

142

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 10:49

Just a reminder that just before Sunday's game, all rosters will be locked from pickups for the playoffs...plan accordingly!

143

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 18:36

Wow, I really didn't expect my team to be before last.

144

barilko6
ID: 271072614
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 18:43

Wow...

This is an incredible race for the last couple of playoff spots...

145

barilko6
ID: 271072614
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 11:00

Sarge can determine a playoff spot with the play of Eric Johnson tonight. Who would have thought???

146

wiggs
ID: 6825712
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 11:26

i am going to drop from 2 to out of the playoffs if sarge doesnt win.

147

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 17:32

also ironic that baltimore's offense is probably going to knock my team (baltimore dopesmokers) out of the playoffs. Screw you Kyle Boller.

148

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 20:25

I really like that only four of the 12 make the playoffs. Makes for some very meaningful games down the stretch. I Just wish that I would be in a fight for one one of these years.

149

barilko6
ID: 1949205
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 08:33

Wow....talk about NFL-like parity, 5 teams tied for 3rd/4th with an 8-6 record. Too bad only 2 of them could move on.

Lucky for me my guys scored lots during the season!

And no offense to GolfFreak, but I am sure glad I didn't run into any New England players this week as they will almost assuredly run up the fantasy points in a huge revenge matchup against the Jets.

Of course, the week after they play the Dolphins, which is some guaranteed points as well...yikes...

150

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 10:25

Too many injuries, to too many players, for too long this year. Still, almost made it "respectable".

151

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 13:00

kudos to Sarge.
That last game had me biting my nails all weekend. Not often you can put up 119 points and still have to squeak by.
Also, Im really happy to see that everyone played the season out and there was great parody. I think this a great league with a bunch of great managers.
russelldl

152

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 13:08

difference between me making and missing the playoffs was brees making a piss poor throw to eric johnson in the end zone

153

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 13:08

difference between me making and missing the playoffs was brees making a piss poor throw to eric johnson in the end zone

154

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 13:33

I was hoping to see EJ with an 8 yd TD reception. Alas, it didnt happen. :(

155

barilko6
ID: 5211491113
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:53

It was close...that could have gone either way, Johnson could have gotten you enough points to push Russell out of the playoffs quite easily.

Following Russell's points, I also really like this league. With 4 playoff teams, managers are forced to try for every point possible, which makes it very competitive. Waivers went over really well for me, no major problems, other than Sarge's phantom claim, which didn't really affect anything.

Probably not for next year, but I would love to see added value given to WRs. I feel they aren't very meaningful in the scores, as their value always seems to be pretty low

156

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:55

157

barilko6
ID: 5211491113
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 15:22

The Beck claim. Come on Sarge...you know you totally got Yahoo to type out that letter just for you...

158

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 15:28

roflmao...oh damn...caught. Yep, I'll confess. I called my buddy Billy Gates and promised him a $1,000,000,000 check for his latest charity, if he could just fix it so I could claim a QB who svcks, for my FF team.

OK...I'm had.

:(

159

barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 09:39

Sarge...

You should have saved some of that money and hired personal trainers for some of your injury cases. Or hired someone who could steer you towards a serviceable QB.

160

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 09:50

Picked up Delhomme of waivers. (Dropping him I thought was a mistake, in a keeper league.) Got Cutler....I'll have 2 serviceable QBs for next season. Cutler will have Walker back, and Delhomme has Smith. Both will have perfectly acceptable numbers next year. (Provided they stay healthy that is. A provision wherein, too many of my roster seem to have trouble grasping the concept.)

161

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 11:39

Its obviously too early to start discussing offseason trades, but I'll have three QBs once the year ends. At this point, I'm likely to keep brady and Eli so Trent Edwards will probably be available. If he ends the season strong he could be a solid qb keeper for someone or I may even decide to keep him and offer up Eli. So if anyone has any interest, we can discuss it during the offseason.
russelldl

162

barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 12:03

Yeah...

With Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush, Ryan Grant, and Justin Fargas at Running Back, two of those guys will be available, and with Andre Johnson and Jeremy Shockey, and Wes Welker, two of those guys will have to be moved.

163

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 15:26

Jason Campbell
Donovon McNabb
Brady Quinn
Tavaris Jackson

We can keep 5 correct? And a max of 2 for each position. Interesting, I'll go out on a limb here and say that mine will be the following, depending on how injuries play-out.

Donovon McNabb
Tavaris Jackson
Ronnie Brown
Frank Gore
Reggie Wayne

164

barilko6
ID: 491137128
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 15:33

I would be willing to put a package together to upgrade at QB...maybe a RB and a QB, OR, if you want to get REALLY fancy, a RB, a QB, AND, a WR!!!

165

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:40

I second the point about the WR value. If they don't catch a td, they don't really have much value.

I am up for a big trade. I would really like to overhaul my team if possible. The only guy that I would have off the table is Addai, but even then, I will have to look at an offer that would be given.

166

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:46

That reason too many players have little to no value, is because the points per for yardage, requires too many yards. 1 pt per 40 IIRC, is too far out of line. Turns it into a "scoring" league, where a seldom used 3rd down/goal-line back, has more value than a starting RB. Its also, why TEs have virtually no value at all, unless thay catch a TD. TEs will often go entire games, with under 30 yds in receptions. Thats .75 points for us.

167

Frick
ID: 21041187
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 19:59

I agree also, a very good team can get crushed because the RB goes for 130 but no TD, but the opponent gets 12 points for a random RB getting his 2TDs of the year.

There needs to be more emphasis placed on yardage. My $.02.

168

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:04

i think it is 20 yards per point, but it definately needs to be changed. 100 yards is worth 5 lousy points

169

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 21:26

right you are wiggs. PaYds/Pts is 1 per 50 yds. Ru/Re is 1/20.

IMHO...QB pts in a 2-QB league, should be 4 pt for ea PaTD instead of 6 and 1 pt/40 PaYds.

Ru/Re should be 1/10 yds and 6 for ea TD.

Right now, a WR with 6 catches and 87 yds but no TD, gets a whoppping 4.35 pts. Beaten by a RB who is in for 6 plays and has a 1 yd TD catch.

170

Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:33

Or a back up TE who catches a couple of TD points.

In our scoring system Mike Vrabel probably has more points than many of the guys that we drafted.

171

barilko6
ID: 491137128
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:49

I agree, which is why I mentioned it in post 155. However with this being a keeper league, I would say we need a very high percentage vote to pass any changes for next year, and a lower percentage vote to pass things for the following year.

But from the looks of things, most managers seem to be onboard with some sort of change for 2008, which is good.

172

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:15

Since we seem to be pointing out whats "wrong", I'd like to point out something I think is very right.

We use fractional points. Something I've always been supportive of doing. Few things in FF sports (outside of injuries) have gotten under my skin more than those leagues where fractions dont get counted. Say 1/10 yds. I have 2 RB and 2 WR, where 2 get 89 yds and 2 get 79 yds (I've had this happen FTR). I get 2 x 8 pts plus 2 x 7 = 30 points off 336 total yards. Your same 4 guys, go for 80-83 yards each. You get 32 points vs my 30, while my guys recorded more yardage than yours.

So...kudos, IMHO, for doing it right.

173

barilko6
ID: 471141612
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 20:10

Dang...I wish I could tell the coaches to bench AP and Shockey, so that they are nice and well rested for next week...

174

barilko6
ID: 271072614
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 08:10

Dang...lost Fargus AND Shockey to injury yesterday. Not good.

175

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 19:31

The 3 and 4 seed in the finals. But when you look at the seasons point totals, no surprise as they were the top two.

As for a prediction, that is tough. But I would say Barilko by a small margin.

176

barilko6
ID: 2511532019
Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 20:57

It will be close. I am just hoping Brady has an off day, Big Ben starts picking it up against St. Louis, and Fast Willie stays right where he is now pointswise. (In the negatives...)

Its been a great year, and a fun league!

177

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 07:53

How much does that suck for Russell. Not only does Parker go down, but Davenport on his bench has a great game.

178

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 12:26

yeah, that really hurts. If only that leg would have broke a half hour earlier.
It also hurts that I've carried Davenport all year just in case parker went down and I still got stung for it.
But all in all, Parker hasnt produced much this season anyway, so I don't depend too much on his points. But he usually does better than zero.
If anything, Big Ben's big night hurts the most.

179

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 12:44

re 175....then you have me scratching my head. 4th in a 12 team league in "Points For", yet I finish 6-8. ?????????????

180

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 15:02

Beats the hell out of me!

181

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 15:15

actually, seems like pretty much everybody beat the hell out of me. (Well, 'cept for 6 of you.)

:(

182

barilko6
ID: 4511512315
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 10:39

I could take the easy way out and just sit Scheff and the SD Def tonight, but I want my full roster to be on the matchup against Baltimore's full slate, fair and straight up.

Just don't think I am pulling a Belichek and am running up the score!

Now I just hope they both don't lay a negative...haha

183

Electroman
ID: 73332719
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 11:16

Congrats Barilko6. Nice win this season. Worst to first if I remember correctly.

184

barilko6
ID: 231102517
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 18:01

Thanks E!

Yeah...worst to first. Gotta love non-snake drafts!

Hopefully this is the start of a beautiful dynasty...

185

russelldl
ID: 177101322
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 12:22

congrats barilko!
And thanks again to everyone for making this a great league.

186

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 20:01

Congrats.. maybe you can get last years winnings. There still out there.

187

GolfFreak
ID: 369582419
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 20:27

Nice job barilko!!!

Frick

Could you please send my winnings from last years to Guru in my nane. GolfFreak! Thanks!

188

wiggs
ID: 51013815
Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 13:22

i sent out a couple trade offers

189

barilko6
ID: 3511362711
Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 13:37

I thought all the winnings had been settled up...

Who is owed money?

190

barilko6
ID: 3511362711
Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 13:43

Final Standings:

1. Toronto CFL Argos 8-6-0 .571 1238.46 W-2 8 15
*2. BaltimoreDopesmokers 8-6-0 .571 1233.25 W-1 1 2
*3. PromizeDawgs 10-4-0 .714 1192.03 L-1 10 14
*4. Favre 4 President 9-5-0 .643 1121.61 W-3 11 13
5. Stray Dougs 8-6-0 .571 1126.47 W-1 6 15
6. chucktaylors 7-7-0 .500 1109.18 W-1 3 4
7. Chicago Serbs 8-6-0 .571 1062.91 W-2 12 15
8. Wiggs 8-6-0 .571 1180.39 L-1 7 8
9. Sarges Wannabes 6-8-0 .429 1183.35 L-1 2 25
10. Fighting Seabees 5-9-0 .357 912.75 L-2 4 15
11. Electros Eagles 4-10-0 .286 932.32 L-3 5 11
12. Frick 3-11-0 .214 924.38 L-4 9 5

191

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 05:45

Re: 189; ask the guy who still has it..

192

dwfffan
ID: 1910222619
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 17:21

sure got quite around here.

193

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 17:23

still licking my wounds. :(

194

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 22:40

Frick

Could you please send my winnings from last years to Guru in my nane. GolfFreak! Thanks!

195

barilko6
ID: 59632711
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 12:34

Its time to see who is interested in coming back.

As the defending champion, I will get to pick the former NFL player that will be the namesake for the program this year, but please shoot me an email if you are onboard for year 3.

196

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:36

i cant access my email from work- but i am definitely in

197

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 15:21

on board

198

GolfFreak
ID: 43303012
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 17:39

Im in, just so I can beat Sarge. ;)

199

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 19:20

hell, with my inevitable 'crip squad', your lil sis would prolly beat me. :(

200

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 19:21

How many RBs did I go thru in the auction league last year? lmao I think like 6 of them wound up getting beat to hell and back and I'd play 1 for a week, then a diff one the next week and yet a different one the following week. Got REAL old, REAL quick.

201

Promize
ID: 8857295
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 17:10

I'm in...
I'll be moving soon, so ummm, let us use the above email.

202

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Sat, Jul 19, 2008, 07:13

Im in.

203

russelldl
ID: 466412420
Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 23:02

I'm in again.

204

Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 13:08

Alright...so we have:

Barilko
Sarge
Wiggs
Golfreak
Promize
JTSerb
Russell

Any thoughts on rule changes at all from last season? I think the season went well.

Remember, we keep 5 players, no more than 2 at one position, and we do a straight draft, worst to first. Or should I say, worst to Barilko.

205

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 13:13

I am looking to trade a WR for a RB- I have Owens, moss and Chad Johnson. Anyone with an extra RB interested in making a trade email me.

206

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 13:34

I'm in also.

207

Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 13:38

I have the following to put together for some sort of nice return package, including picks:

Reggie Bush - RB
Ryan Grant - RB
Andre Johnson - WR
Wes Welker - WR
Jon Kitna - QB
Justin Fargus - RB
Jeremy Shockey - TE

I am looking to package some of the above for picks and/or a QB.

208

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 14:29

cripes...cant remember if we did this on yahoo or espn last year. lol no clue where my damn team is atm. :(

209

Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 09:08

Sarge...we did it through Yahoo, so you can check out your profile there.

I also sent you an email yesterday, so check that too!

210

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 14:34

got it, replied

211

barilko6
ID: 36197
Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 16:11

Invites and passwords have been emailed out via last year's addresses used in the Pat Tillman league. If you didn't get an invite, let me know as soon as you can.

This year the league will be called: Reggie White Invitational, honoring a former great player that keeps within our tradition of honoring a former player each year, as selected by the champion the year before. (Much like the dinner selection by the Masters Champion, only not as yummy)

2006 - Mike Singletary
2007 - Pat Tillman
2008 - Reggie White

Champions:

2006: Dwfffan
2007: Barilko6

212

Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 13:40

Alright, we have 6 teams signed up and ready to go.

I will wait until Tuesday for the others to respond here on on the Yahoo site before I send out invites to other Gurupies to fill the empty slots.

Still no word at all from:

Electro
Chuck
Doug

213

Barilko6
ID: 3051187
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 13:42

Wait...Chuck is signed up on the site. Disregard.

Signed up on Yahoo so far:

Chuck
Wiggs
Barilko
Golffreak
Sarge
Dwfffan

214

Electroman
ID: 12638144
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 13:37

I'm in and signed up.

215

barilko6
ID: 36197
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 08:35

Alright, we are rolling along.

We are currently just missing Doug and Promize. Promize did confirm his wish to be in the league this year, but just hasn't signed up for the Yahoo site.

Anyone have contact info for Doug? He hasn't responded here or to the emails I have sent.

Otherwise, we will be looking for only 1 new manager.

216

Electroman
ID: 12638144
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 08:44

In an email that someone sent out to start the league, he said that he wanted to. Here is his
email: doug@reprazent.com.

He said that he wouldn't be an active participant in the preseason discussion, so that is probbly why we haven't heard from him.

217

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 09:32

B6, I never received the email. Probably changed it since then. Please resend thanks

218

barilko6
ID: 36197
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 11:09

Wait, my bad. Promize is there. Information has been mailed out to JTSerb and Doug, at the email address in post 216.

Does anyone want to bring up any changes to talk about for this coming season at all?

Also, what about a date for declaration of keepers?

219

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:30

I am signed up now.

I would say the sooner the better for declaration and the re-draft.

Is it just me or does it seem like every league is behind this season? I know mine are.

220

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:32

Here are the settings for our league guys. Look over as B6 said if you want to propose a rule change.

League Name: Reggie White Invitational
Password: ministerofdefense
Draft Type: Offline Draft
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Acquisitions per Week: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: November 14, 2008
Trade Review: Commissioner
Waiver Time: 2 days
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Playoffs: Week 15 and 16 (4 teams)
Roster Positions: QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Fractional Points: Yes
Negative Points: Yes

221

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:38

Barilko,

I thought I saved them somewhere, but can't remember or find them.

What are the rules on add/drops?

How many Keepers can we keep?

222

barilko6
ID: 21662810
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 19:31

Unlimited add/drops. Managers will place claims for waiver-wire guys, which are processed every Wednesday at noon. Then every player is open until the start of the first game. Waiver Priority is based on last to first in standings, with each week it being reset to go back to last-first.

Keep 5 players, no more than 2 at any one position.

Rosters can be checked under your Yahoo Fantasy Profile.

Draft order is set by worst to first from last season, and is a straight draft.

223

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 19:57

Alright I think im up to speed on everything then. Thanks B6.

On a note though I only am playing this season if we have a Quick Williams sighting :)

224

barilko6
ID: 21662810
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 21:36

I was hoping to make him a late round sleeper pick...

225

barilko6
ID: 36197
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 08:54

Alright, well if nobody has any objections or other suggestions, I say we go with next Friday, August 8 to declare our 5 keepers, and then start the draft on the following Monday, August 11th.

That should still be more than enough time to get things done in time. If people want to delay the start time, I think that would be ok as well. (Last year we started the draft on August 21st, and we completed the draft in about 4 days!!!!!, so we have time)

Still no word from Doug, either by email or on the Yahoo site. Electro, RE: 216, I never got that email, was that from a different league maybe?

If I don't hear from Doug sometime soon, I will start looking for another manager to fill his spot. If anyone has any suggestions for a manager, send me an email.

226

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 09:01

I would like to start on the 11th or so- I will be away from August 23-30. I will have phone access- texts too, but it would be easier to do it on here.

227

barilko6
ID: 36197
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 09:09

Also, I am looking to move either Reggie Bush or Ryan Grant for a draft pick upgrade, or package one of them with Jon Kitna for a QB upgrade.

Or...package both of them for a stud RB upgrade.

Wes Welker and/or Andre Johnson have to be moved as well, but I have a few irons in the fire for those guys.

228

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 09:12

I am still looking to move TO, Moss or CJ for picks or better yet an RB

229

barilko6
ID: 36197
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:28

I have had one manager asking if we could eliminate the limit of two players at one position rule.

I will throw that out to the rest of you, but I am thinking it would have to be a very large majority to pass for this year, as that changes League Structure and planning in a huge way.

230

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:39

i would be in favor on that change

231

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:39

I favor leaving it at 2.

232

Electroman
ID: 12638144
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:52

The email was sent by promize, and it seems to be sent to your hotmail account.

I like it at 2.

233

barilko6
ID: 36197
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 12:01

Got it. I don't check that one really much anymore. I use the AOL one more often, but will remind myself to check the hotmail one as well.

234

russelldl
ID: 466412420
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 23:04

I'd like to leave it at 2.

235

barilko6
ID: 52612922
Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 13:13

Alright, well If I don't hear from Doug by Monday, I am going to search out for a new manager. 3 Emails and these forums have gone unanswered.

236

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 13:21

<--I'll be "out of the loop" from Sun eve 8/10 thru LATE Mon eve 8/11 at a Dallas Conference. Then 8/15 to 8/25 I believe, I'll have limited acces.

237

Doug
ID: 53937413
Sat, Aug 02, 2008, 11:15

Hey guys... I'll play. August 1st was my "oh, fantasy football" reminder.

I am extremely tied up with work these days, but don't see any reason I can't at least check in a couple times per day to make picks. Last year I was taking a break this time of year and was able to concentrate heavily on my drafts, this year not as much. But looking forward to another good year of this.

b6 I'll probably send you an email from a private account which is going to be the best way to reach me on short notice. Give me a day or two to get my fantasy stuff together.

238

Electroman
ID: 12638144
Sat, Aug 02, 2008, 18:09

Basically my entire team is on the block. I am ooking for an overhaul. Addai is a guy I want to keep, but I will look ove offers on everyone.

239

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Sat, Aug 02, 2008, 19:17

Is this right?

Stat Categories:
Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)

Thought it was (4) for TD

240

russelldl
ID: 11753311
Sun, Aug 03, 2008, 12:55

Nope, its always been 6 points for passing TDs in this league.

241

russelldl
ID: 11753311
Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 02:15

do we still have the rosters somewhere? I dont think i have a link to last years league.

242

barilko6
ID: 287749
Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 10:09

Russelldl...just check your fantasy profile, you can access our league from there, and that will show rosters and stat categories.

I don't have time to reply to posts and emails today, but will do so tomorrow, Tuesday.

243

russelldl
ID: 11753311
Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 22:34

Ok. I found it, thanks B6.
I'm looking to trade Bernard Berrian or Nate Burleson for a late round draft pick.
russelldl

244

russelldl
ID: 11753311
Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 23:27

Same thing for Trent Edwards- QB from Buffalo.
Late round draft pick gets him.

245

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 03:31

JTSERB's Keepers (might change b4 deadline, but as of now)

Manning
Steve Smith
Fitzgerald
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Leinhart

246

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 03:37

Just looking at last seasons comments..

Post 2 From Sarge

4) Sorry Barilko, but A Peterson in rd 6 was a reach IMHO. Especiallym when M Lynch still on the board. Possibly in the longrun, Peterson will do more, but Lynch will have the bigger yr this season and next I think.

Um, yea bad pick. :) Ill trade you Lynch for AP Barilko

247

sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 08:07

lmao Could a person be more WRONG, than I was with that one? :(

248

Frick
ID: 23117516
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 08:47

Were you a Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning supporter?

So keepers are do on Friday? Shouldn't be a problem, my team was awful last year.

Anyone have any interest in Brady Quinn?

249

GolfFreak
Leader
ID: 01730209
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 09:08

Keepers. (might change b4 deadline, but as of now)

LaDainian Tomlinson (SD - RB)
Torry Holt (StL - WR)
Santonio Holmes (Pit - WR)
Rudi Johnson (Cin - RB)
Tony Gonzalez (KC - TE)

250

barilko6
ID: 36197
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 09:23

Frick, I had sent you an email, did you ever get it?

And yeah, no complaints with reaching for AP so early!

251

Frick
ID: 23117516
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 10:12

Just got it this morning. Response on the way.

253

wiggs
ID: 356191618
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 18:16

Trade between wiggs and Dwffan

I get Laurence Maroney
He gets randy moss

254

Doug
ID: 306152020
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 02:45

Keepers as of now:

Maurice Jones-Drew RB
Braylon Edwards WR
Marques Colston WR
TJ Houshmanzadeh WR
Calvin Johnson WR

Would be interested in possibly moving a WR or two for pick and/or RB.

255

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 08:17

Doug, just an FYI, but you can only keep 2 of each position.

256

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 14:30

Keepers (as of the moment)

B Westbrook RB
S Jackson RB
J Cutler QB
J Delhomme QB
D Bowe WR

257

russelldl
ID: 466412420
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 15:31

my keepers so far:
Tom Brady QB
Eli Manning QB
Willie Parker RB
Marion Barber RB
Joey Galloway WR

258

Doug
ID: 15733617
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 18:34

OK... highly-rated WRs on the trade block then!

259

Promize
ID: 8857295
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 06:23

How about a new thread please commish :)

260

barilko6
ID: 36197
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 08:28

Sound good...coming right up!

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