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Posted by: deepsnapper
- Sustainer [1852819] Mon, Aug 13, 14:14

Draft queue is built.

NCTC Sentinels have the first selection.
1deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 14, 05:59
I email LANman JIC he wasn't aware we could go ahead and start drafting.

Reminder, don't use Autodraft until after the 24 hour clock is activated. It won't work until after the timer starts counting down below 24 hrs.
2deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 14, 06:54
LANman takes Marshall Faulk with the first pick.

Not sure who's up #2, wazaaap_guy's on deck.
3deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 14, 09:29
Edgerrin James off the board.

wazaaap_guy's up.
4ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Tue, Aug 14, 10:04
I'll be gone from about 11:30am server time until about 10pm tonight.
5deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 14, 18:20
I just dropped wazaaap_guy a line JIC he wasn't aware he was up in the draft.
6ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Tue, Aug 14, 23:14
I'm back and so far the draft has moved... nowhere.
7kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Tue, Aug 14, 23:32
Ksoze.

I was thinking tonight that I should get back here in case it was my pick (at #11). LOL This might take forever.
8ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Tue, Aug 14, 23:34
Gotta do something like a round a day to finish on time... not a good start.
9deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 15, 06:54
Culpepper off the board.

pogophiles on the clock.
10deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 15, 11:39
I went ahead and dropped pogophiles a note JIC he wasn't aware it was his turn to draft.

I'm on auto so it will jump to fadenwalker for his pick.
11deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 15, 18:18
pogophiles took Ricky Williams and I auto'd Manning

fadenwalker's up.
12pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Wed, Aug 15, 18:40
Sorry guys, I've been out of town since Monday AM without internet access. Shouldn't happen going forward.
13deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 15, 20:25
Warner is off the board

ksoze's up

pogo - the queue wasn't built until Monday afternoon and you couldn't have auto'd until after the 24 hr clock started Tuesday anyway. UR here, that's what counts.
14deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Wed, Aug 15, 20:46
ksoze takes E. George

It's time for a blizzard in Aug.
15deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 08:09
Garcia & Fred Taylor off the board.

"Wow is every team name chosen" is up for pick #10 in round 1. I don't think they've checked in yet as the timestamp on the team is: Roster last accessed: Aug 13 2001 2:50PM which appears to be around the time the draft queue was built.

I'm not sure whom this is. I sent the email out to 13 gurupies since one coach didn't sign up by 19:00 on Sunday.

Gurupies I can't match to teams are:

ivan
Mike
Purple Pimp
White Tiger

TMK, 3 of these coaches are signed up. I just don't know which one isn't. Sorry for the confusion (at least mine anyway).
16ivan
      ID: 20358521
      Thu, Aug 16, 09:13
i'm the basic city brigade.
17ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 16, 11:12
WOOHOO!!!! "Jon Wayne" went!!! Now we're moving!!! Two more picks and we'll have finished round 1.... in three days.
18deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 11:23
Thanks ivan.

kibitzer on the clock, the mrs. is on deck.
19deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 13:10
Stephen Davis, Griese, & Jamal off the board.

Round 2!
20deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 16, 13:45
kibitzer - you're up in round 2.
21deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 13:55
Curtis Martin off the board.

Our mystery coach is up, followed by ivan.
22kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Thu, Aug 16, 13:55
Curtis Martin off the board.
23deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 14:00
ivan's on autodraft, so blizzard is up after our mystery coach.
24deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 16, 15:45
A. Green, Brad Johnson & Starvin Marvin are off the board.

ksoze's up.
25ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 16, 16:25
McNabb's gone, on to Fadenwalker.
26deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 16:58
I cannot believe the mrs. took Jamal over Stephen Davis. She was definately "right-brained" this afternoon. ;-)
27deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 17:04
D'Oh! - kibitzer took Davis one pick earlier. My bad.
28deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 19:38
got a "honey do". back in an hour.
29deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 16, 20:48
m'back
30deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Fri, Aug 17, 10:21
Lamar Smith & Dillon off the board.

pogophiles on the clock.
31pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Fri, Aug 17, 12:27
Gonzalez is off the board.
32deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Fri, Aug 17, 16:14
wazaaap_guy's on the clock.
33kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Fri, Aug 17, 21:08
Terrell Owens off the board.
34kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sat, Aug 18, 10:14
Duce Staley is off the board.
35deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Sat, Aug 18, 10:19
LANman's up for the last pick in round 2! (and the 1st of round 3).

At this rate we're going to get about 1/2 way through the draft before Sandbox cuts it off on Sept 3.

I hope everyone preranked their players. ;-)
36ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Sat, Aug 18, 11:53
Um, LANman... when you pick either first or last in the draft you pick twice in a row. You're still up...
37kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sat, Aug 18, 12:03
Gannon & Watters are gone.

I'll be back in an hour or so.
38kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sat, Aug 18, 15:54
B. Favre & Warrick Dunn are off the board.
40kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sun, Aug 19, 01:10
I'm ready to give up on this slow draft. It's a slow draft, but it's definitely not live. Sorry if that offends anyone and it's not meant to any one in particular, just my opinion. Slowest draft I have ever seen. We will not even come close to finishing on time.
41ivan
      ID: 20358521
      Sun, Aug 19, 07:22
can we try to set up a time, so that everybody is online & ready to draft at the same time?

is this the slowest draft on record or what?

i'm usually on or can get on 6pm to midnight in the week, or all the time weekends, and auto for the rest.
42deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Sun, Aug 19, 07:25
kibitzer - no offense taken. When you're right, you're right!

I'm trying to put myself on autodraft when the selection comes within 2-3 of me in order to "try" and speed it up. Hahahah.

Those at the bottom of the draft order will get first crack at the WW. That may be a real advantage in a couple of weeks.

Peace
43pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Sun, Aug 19, 07:43
Holt & Bruce are off the board. Faden Walker is up.
44deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Sun, Aug 19, 09:16
If we can just get a round a day completed, we'll almost finish ~Sept 3.

I'd rather keep my queue filled and use autopick than to have Sandbox draft everyone from the master list.

My schedules flexible, I can work with any time frame we establish (almost). My only issue is if there are any complication with my mom's eye surgery this Thursday, I won't be around for a couple of days.
45pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Sun, Aug 19, 09:30
I'll be using autodraft much more now that I'm through the first three rounds.
46wazaaap_guy
      ID: 39753187
      Sun, Aug 19, 09:43
im available just about anytime late night.
47kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sun, Aug 19, 11:08
Mike Anderson & Rod Smith are off the board.
48kibitzer
      ID: 49723130
      Sun, Aug 19, 18:50
James Stewart & Peter Warrick off the board.

Wow Is Every Team Name Chosen? is on the clock.
49deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Sun, Aug 19, 22:59
I'm offline till the AM. Maybe we can get through a round tomorrow.
50kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Mon, Aug 20, 10:48
Terrell Davis & Trent Green off the board.
51kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Mon, Aug 20, 11:34
Charlie Garner, Derrick Alexander, and Aaron Brooks off the board.
52deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Mon, Aug 20, 12:09
Wow Is Every Team Name Chosen? is on the clock.
55ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Mon, Aug 20, 23:16
Ok guys, it's time for people to go on auto if they're not going to be around for awhile. Don't hold those of us who are paying attention up please. ds and I are in the other draft that started the same time as this one and we're in round 15 there. This is getting ridiculous.
56blizzard
      ID: 344402116
      Tue, Aug 21, 00:11
I set mine on auto already, hopefully we can speed up the pace.
57deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Tue, Aug 21, 06:38
This draft is killing me.
58ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Tue, Aug 21, 08:31
WOOHOO!!! "Wow" picked. Thanks a lot dude. Go on auto next time. Matt Hasselbeck, Emmitt Smith, Antonio "Concussion" Freeman and Bettis off the board.
59pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Tue, Aug 21, 09:18
Barber sheared off.
60ivan
      ID: 5877219
      Tue, Aug 21, 09:18
tiki barber's gone
61pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Tue, Aug 21, 09:19
Also, Harrison & Bennett
62kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Tue, Aug 21, 10:05
Tomlinson gone.

Favre to Freeman up next.
63deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 21, 18:20
Favre! just throw Freeman the damn ball!

FWIW, the draft that started today's already almost through round 2.

!
64 fadenwalker
      ID: 38646920
      Tue, Aug 21, 18:53
Mientkefgenm Mientkczczegkwf Mientkxqmtin !
My sentiments exactly! Howdy everyone. This is my first time on this thread (ksoze turned me on to it) Looking forward to the season getting started... IF we get through the draft! I mean how hard is it to log on for a quik moment and make a selection. I guess I don't get it since I'm online from 8am till 10pm (work).

PS Whats the chances Mike Anderson gets the sole starting role? I gambled and took him early due to the lack of quality backs left to pick from.
65fadenwalker
      ID: 38646920
      Tue, Aug 21, 19:14
I wish sandbox kept stats on each user that showed how long each draft pick took you. That way we could eliminate the "all day'ers".
Freman's going deep, deep, WAY deep! Throw it Favre you FREAK!! te he Just kidding around.
66StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 3505622
      Tue, Aug 21, 22:09
He throws and, and, and, d'oh! its intercepted!
67ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Tue, Aug 21, 22:26
Could those who aren't going to pay attention or just don't give a damn go on
AUTO!!!
68deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Tue, Aug 21, 22:30
fadenwalker - Anderson's probably going to get the nod to start the season due to Davis' hammy.

He looked pretty good last night, Griese wasn't too sharp though.
69kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Wed, Aug 22, 00:27
Sandbox might not keep them, but out of boredom I have been keeping up with the emails when someone picks. Two people from the same town and almost 83 hours combined time for picks for four picks from one and three picks from the other? That might just be a coincidence but that's just up to now, Jesus Christ how slow did you think slow live draft meant? This is beyond ridiculous.
70kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Wed, Aug 22, 01:22
Let’s recap this draft so far. In the first round we started with about three weeks, six days to finish the draft before Sandbox told us what players we would have instead of us picking them (9/3?).

Round 1
This round was finished at the hypnotic pace of 55 hours and 24 minutes.

Round 2
The picks were so fast that we actually finished in record time, a furious action paced 46 hours and 8 minutes where I’m positive all of us were on pins and needles waiting for our next selection (fastest round up to this point). I know personally, it was all I could do to catch my breath from all the excitement, but my blood pressure is finally back down now again, thank God!

Round 3
Ahh!!! The pace slowed up for us old folks and we could sigh with relief from all the pressure. A leisurely 47 hours and 52 minutes.

For those who don’t care, some of us would like to pick our own players, if you didn’t have semi-regular access to a computer, why did you join this draft in the first place? Give the rest of us a break and check in more than once a day.

For all the good this will do, this is end of my half weekly rant and rave.

I hate it when I drink and get like this, but I can’t help myself.

The opinions expressed herein would be exactly the same without alcohol, just more coherent, thank you all and God bless.
71ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Aug 22, 08:32
When Sandbox picks for him Farve to Freeman better stay on auto for a few days before he starts picking himself, he owes us.
72deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 22, 08:52
Give Sandbox a few minutes after 10AM CT and he'll go on Auto. It sometimes doesn't happen right on the hour.
73pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Wed, Aug 22, 10:36
Is anyone else worried that the next guy (NCTC Sentinels) isn't on auto either?
74ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Aug 22, 10:38
NCTC did post in the rumor mill last night and was aware that he was up next.
75ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Aug 22, 11:04
Sandbox finally picked and FTF got Grbac, his second QB in 4 rounds. Serves him right. Let's get moving now...
76ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Aug 22, 12:08
FTF just took himself off auto. Thanks Farve.
77kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Wed, Aug 22, 12:11
Well, I'll check back in an hour or so and see what's happening.
78ivan
      ID: 237422210
      Wed, Aug 22, 13:23
round five!

cris carter & derrick brooks off the boards.

back to ftf. wtf.
79pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Wed, Aug 22, 14:04
I predict FTF will hold us up for at least another 6 hours. Anyone else?
80deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Wed, Aug 22, 15:27
I don't expect this type on conduct from a gurupie league. This is the type of poor participation is what you get when you join a public Sandbox league.

I'm embarrased to say this, but this is plain old crap. I am so pissed right now I can hardly express my anger.

I don't know who you are ATM "F to F", but I'll find out eventually and I'll never play in a fantasy league with you again.

You have no consideration for your fellow league members and that's not acceptable. That dog won't hunt.

I apologize to those gurupies who joined this league in the spirit of good and fair competition. This is not my idea of how the game is played.

I also apologize for not "screening" the people who asked to play, but I've never had to do that in the past 3 years and never thought I would.

I'm going to post emails tonight to everyone that I sent out league invitations to and I'd ask each of you to reply with your gurupie name and team name in this league. I know several of you, but I ask for your responses anyway.

There is no way to get out of a league once it's formed, the only good thing I can come up with is that it isn't a keeper league so we won't have to go through this in subsequent seasons.

81pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Wed, Aug 22, 16:20
Can you force an invalid roster? If so, we could all pack it in now, let Sandbox autodraft & then go invalid for the season.
82kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Wed, Aug 22, 16:22
Back in a couple of hours. Sure I won't miss much.
83deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Wed, Aug 22, 16:32
pogo - yeah, but we'd have to toss the IDs. That's Ok, but I'm not giving "F to F" the satisfaction.

His actions to slow down the draft are deliberate and intentional. Waiting until he timed out and was switched to autodraft and then taking it back off auto is nothing but BS.

I'll beat his ass with a team sandbox gives me before I pack it in. I doubt if he was smart enough to prerank his players anyway so it won't do him that much good to slow everything down.

I just want to determine who's it is so I won't repeat the same mistake again in another league.

BTW - We're about to be passed by the Boardies draft that started yesterday.
84ivan
      ID: 20358521
      Wed, Aug 22, 16:41
what is "force an invalid roster?"

yikes, is everybody on auto? just checked there was like 6 teams in a row before me all auto'd up, and i blinked, had to go manual but i'll be checking in regular tonight just in case miracles do happen.

ivan, ceo 'sin city brigade.
85blizzard
      ID: 344402116
      Wed, Aug 22, 17:29
deepsnapper - make a list to whom you gave out the passwords, we can start narrowing down are choices who favre to freeman is.

I hope nobody decides to quit because of this. Lets just help each other out by making good trades.
86StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Wed, Aug 22, 17:40
If you click on the league name under the full contact home link is there any info listed like name or email for this individual?
87blizzard
      ID: 344402116
      Wed, Aug 22, 17:48
I saw the name a while ago, but I cant remember what it was. The problem is you wouldn't know if it was a real identity or not.
88QB
      ID: 223402623
      Wed, Aug 22, 17:57
deepsnapper.... I guess this is the hard way to learn to screen the league... I had a hard time agreeing to blizzard and bags since I have no idea who they are. But I think that it has worked out quite well with them.

And by the looks of it we will be long done before you!! Best of luck with this guy.

QB
89deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Wed, Aug 22, 19:08
I sent the password to 13 coaches and the 3 names I can't match to the 2 teams are:

Mike
Purple Pimp
White Tiger

The teams are:
"Wow is every team name chosen" - owner's name = Jon Wayne
"Favre to Freeman" - owner's name = Ron Green.

I don't think White Tiger was able to get into the league. I'd sent him the email on Sunday the 12th after Purple Pimp didn't sign in by 6PM. White Tiger make a comment in a later league formation thread that he's missed out at the last minute on joining a couple of gurupie leagues.

I have my suspicions who Ron Green , but I could always be wrong and that's where further investigation is needed.

I haven't actually logged into the league in several days since I've been on autopick. I create a shortcut to the draft page and then can check the draft's status from any other sandbox ID that way. I don't believe these 2 have email addresses on the league page, but if anyone actually logs in, please confirm this it true.
90ivan
      ID: 20358521
      Wed, Aug 22, 19:37
no e-mail (of course)
91deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 23, 05:59
I believe I've got it figured out. Our "Mike" aka "Joe" posted on the football board last year under the same ID: 38451121 and email addy: plante39@hotmail.com. He even played in a CNNSI league last season. Didn't show up for the fast live draft, but he got in the league. Species made a comment in the messague forum that he could have preranked. His team must have sucked something terrible. Gurupies vs the computer. Hahahaha :-)

He appears to have slipped a collusive team into the league. The 2 are "Favre to Freeman" and "Wow is every team name chosen". A real rocket scientist this one. The Sandbox IDs are listed as both "coaches" living in the same town in MN.

I posted this in the Rumor Mill also:

I can promise you one thing Mike aka Joe, you'll never get a trade approved between you and your buddy "Wow" since it only takes 4 votes to kill it. I PROMISE you that will happen. Your attempts at delaying the draft may work, but you'll never benefit from it.

What hacked you off, philflyboy not letting you play in his 10 team league this year or did we so soundly kick your ass in CNNSI last year you thought cheating would help you win. IT WON'T! Jerk.

I'm going to continue to follow the draft and take players as long as I can. This troll has ruined the draft experience for me, but I'm not going to give him the satisfaction of winning anything. I'll trade all my best players and create a super team before I do that. This jerk has no chance of winning anything. BTW, if anyone has their email ID listed in the league info page, I recommend not displaying it.

On to better things.

If any of you are interested in "trying it again", there are only 2 dates remaining for a slow live draft and the earliest one is next Tues Aug 28.

If there is enough interest, we'll either create a 10 or 12 team league. I'm sure species and or a couple of more trusted gurupies would join us if there is enough interest in doing it.

We'd have to average 2+ rounds a day to get through most of the draft, but it's do-able. We finished a 10 team draft earlier in 8 days (philflyboy's) and we weren't trying to hurry.

It would mean creating another ID, but if you use Yahoo, it has a free service which forward to any POP account which is pretty cool. You don't have to login to Yahoo to check it, the inbox forwards it to the email addy of your choice (not another Yahoo though).

The sad thing for me is this is the only team my wife is going to draft. She's not interested in another one, at least ATM anyway. I just wish one of the "color" guys would have spoke up that they didn't get in so I'd have know something was awry a little sooner. I've actually lost sleep over this one. Stupid me.

Peace to everyone but "Mike" aka "Joe". You can go to hell.
92ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 23, 06:43
Roy,
Don't lose sleep over a moron, this isn't your fault. I'd be interested in trying another draft with those in the league that would like to and I'm sure Fadenwalker would also, so count us in. I suppose we need to get it started quickly, though, cause it'd have to be full in four days to begin on the 28th.

Also, if your wife is planning on playing this league and this league only I'd be happy to make her a trade or two. Eddie George and Rod Smith for her 19th and 20th picks maybe?
93deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 23, 07:28
ksoze - LoL thanks bud.

That's 3 on the way to a league.
94ivan
      ID: 55739237
      Thu, Aug 23, 07:52
i'm up for starting over.
95kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Thu, Aug 23, 08:01
Roy,
Count me in for a "real" draft. Unless they've changed things at work since I've been off, I can access the draft there as well as home. Shouldn't be a problem getting in the rounds.

I think I've already screwed this draft up anyway when I was deciding how many players to draft at each position. Maybe not screwed up but definitely overloaded at a couple of positions.
96StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 09:16
If you come up short I'll fill in a spot.
97StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 09:18
And btw, I remember Joe from last year. Name said Joe Blow IIRC. Offered him a trade early in the year and never heard a word. I think he had Jeffers on his team last year, LOL. A true football genius.
98deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Thu, Aug 23, 10:17
StLCards - thanks, I'd much rather do the 12 team draft and take the chance on not getting in the last few rounds than do the 10 team draft. It's just too easy.

The threads that woke me up on Mike aka Joe were:

"Joe" in 2000 Sandbox BOA league

"Joe" in 2000 CNNSI Full Blitz league

"Mike" trying to join philflyboy's 2001 Sandbox league

"Mike" wanting to join any 2001 Sandbox league

"Mike" wanting to play 2001 Sandbox Rotoguru NFL league

Based on what I've read, I wouldn't have excluded him from playing anyway. I just wish Purple Pimp or White Tiger had spoke up and said they couldn't get into the league. We'd at least know there was something fishy a little sooner. Purple Pimp surprises me. He raised holy heck when he didn't get in a league last year due to access problems he had at school.
99Bags
      ID: 502511210
      Thu, Aug 23, 10:36
DS, I had thought about joining your league when you posted way back when. I didn't think I would be able to be around for the draft so I held off and got in on QB's.

If you are in a pinch and need another person I would like to join. I am on vacation until 29th so I can hover by acomputer until then. Well except for 16 hrs on Sun when we will be driving back from D/FW to Chicago.

If you are trying to screen the last few players my ID# changes as I am bouncing around from Parents, Inlaws, and Aunts houses.
100deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:12
Thanks Bags, I'm not much on screening. In the case of "Mike", I'd have taken him even if I'd have checked for who know's what anyway. Heck even I changed my handle since I started posting here 3 years ago (Roy G).

FYI Everyone

I've sent an email out to each of you at the addy that I had when I sent out the league creation emails (minus "Mike" of course). Please check ASAP.

Peace
101pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:30
Deepsnapper - It appears "Joe" may have been in our Sandbox Fast Live draft last year. Check out this discussion:

"Joe" in last years draft
102pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:33
Hope this isn't offbase, but the forum registry entry for a "Joe" indicates certain Cheesehead tendencies, and the age is certainly right.
103pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:41
DS - Who was the owner of the "Flying Polacks" team from last years "Gurupies Galore" league?
104StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:41
Mike Plante plante39@hotmail.com
105StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 11:42
that wasn't an answer to #103 just the name associated with that email address.
106StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 12:42
I'm sure the Joe in the registry forum at least isn't the plante39 email person. I found his email and name on a site about Owatonna High School (some student had a site and a link showing names and emails). Seems he was a senior there last year and a hockey goalie. Don't know why someone who is a sports fan would behave like this.

Here is his a link to a site about the hockey team.
107 ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 23, 13:16
Roy,
I didn't receive an email. Did it go to this address?
108 blizzard
      ID: 344402116
      Thu, Aug 23, 13:25
I'm in for a new draft, if we don't have enough time, we could do a live draft or something. I think it only takes 5 days to complete a slow live draft. The other draft me and deepsnapper are in only took 1 day and half to complete 5 rounds.
109ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 23, 13:52
Roy,
If you haven't already opened the new division, how about playing it in cnnsi's Sandbox version. I have an id there that I haven't used yet. Also, just confirmed that Fadenwalker will play in the new one.
110deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 23, 14:08
Sorry ksoze, I inadvertantly chopped the "M" off your "com". (oops!) I just sent it.

I'll check on CNNSI, as of Tuesday, they didn't have their game up and the "preregistration" link didn't work.

From the responses I've gotten, we'll have enough for a "real" 12 team league. I'll get the thing built tonight and the email sent.

I'm finishing 2 Exit42 drafts ATM and I may "steal" a great pick with my last pick on one coming up. Muhuhaaaaaaa. ;-)

I'm going to check out the other "Joe" links this afternoon too. The ones I'd found didn't indicate the kind of louse that'd do this to a draft, just a poor draft strategist.
111ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 23, 14:11
No prob Roy, got the email, thanks.
112pogophiles
      Leader
      ID: 155452911
      Thu, Aug 23, 14:12
That link explains the 39 in his email address also: his hockey uniform number is 39
113StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 14:14
here's one post that is a hint

By TBRaiders, Sept. 2, 2000
Just wondering if Joe aka:Kornikova's Sexy Studs
has already given up on his team.

If you are still around Joe, I proposed a trade to you. You don't have a starting QB and I won't have a back-up QB if you accept trade.

I only tossed in your bench kicker because you will be having to dump at least two more players if you accept trade. I suggest Jeffers be the first to go. He is out for the season. That still leaves you with one more to dump.


That's the same experience I had. "Joe" never once touched his team all year.
114deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 23, 14:50
I do remember that AKSS. He was a dead team. My bad for having too much faith in people. I'm one of those "half full" glass guys. Maybe I should check the roundball & baseball forums. He may be Promise Stars/Cabanna Dan too. ;-)

It's going to have to be another Sandbox Draft. From CNNSI's fantasy football page:

Fantasy Football
Our apologies for those of you who signed up early for fantasy football. Our slate of games will be ready soon with some great new options.

Yeah, they do this every year. I'll probably organize a fast live draft for Sept 8th. I don't like having to play partial seasons.
115kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Thu, Aug 23, 15:06
Sandbox finally auto'd.

Ed McCaffrey, Joe Horn, Tim Brown & Jimmy Smith off the board.
116kibitzer
      ID: 3973207
      Thu, Aug 23, 15:14
Getting off here for a little. Severe thunderstorm warning for my part of central KY, and about 10-15 minutes from arrival. Be back soon.
117deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 23, 16:00
Just sent any email to everyone. Check your boxes. Ivan - cc'd the hotmail addy. ;-)
118 LANman
      ID: 755192
      Thu, Aug 23, 18:04
Hey guys, I didn't find this thread until Roy's last e-mail - today. I was wondering why no one was posting in Sandbox's rumor mill. It's unfortunate that I'm stuck on the wrong side of 'Captain Vicoden to Troy Aikman Jr.', as I was really looking forward to this league. When he's up, I'll go auto from here on out. Normally I would've found this thread on my own. Right now I'm in the middle of replacing my boss and doing my own job too. Thankx for not trashing me too bad during my "absence". =b...
119deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Thu, Aug 23, 18:17
LANman - I sent 2 emails. Check out the 2nd one.
120fadenwalker
      ID: 38646920
      Thu, Aug 23, 23:14
Hey- been out having babies. Well Im a new Uncle anyway. Im in on the next draft. Im online from 8am - 5pm EST at work and then whenever at home at night after work. You guys are cool. I never new that people were so into this fantasy football thing. Rock on.

If there is a chance that "FAVRE TO FAGMAN" or "WOW AM I REALLY A CHUMP" is following this thread, then I would like to say something:
The following message MAY contain adult language... please do not attempt to talk like this at home... viewer discretion is advised.

MikeJoe you little GIRL... show your face. If I ever see you, I'm swinging on you... you piece of s.hit. You're a pansy a.ss little b.itch and I wish we could could all take our shots and smack you like the little w.hore you are. I've got your email addy and I'm about 5 seconds away from crashing your hard drive, sissy. Say I won't... b.itch.
("They" wouldn't let me post unless I cleaned it up... so I did)

Im sorry... I had to vent. Im in for the next draft. Id be willing to do a fast live draft if possible.

Watch out for the PEANUT BUTTER....

Faden
121fadenwalker
      ID: 38646920
      Thu, Aug 23, 23:20
I think everyone in that league should change their name to something like "We Quit, F 2 F is playing by himself" to get the point across that the draft is basically a wash.
122ksoze
      Donor
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Aug 23, 23:26
ROTFLMMFAO!!!
123LANman
      ID: 755192
      Fri, Aug 24, 02:11
I'm in and wouldn't mind the change to Fast Live Draft. We'd just have to find an agreeable time/day.
124deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Fri, Aug 24, 11:22
"Jon Wayne" is scheduled to time out at 4PM CDT.

It's going to rip off a round when he does. If you haven't checked the 2nd email I sent yesterday, please do so. Otherwise, make sure you're queue's full as it'll empty fast.

LANman - I'm going to setup a CNNSI fast live when they get their system up. I'm shooting for the Saturday before the season starts (Sept 8). I'd be happy to do it during the week, but I'm not sure how many could participate.

5 signups for the Tuesday draft. If you didn't get the email, let me know.

Later.
125deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Fri, Aug 24, 13:08
I sent out another email a little while ago.

If he allows it to happen, "Wow" is going to timeout around 4PM. I hope everyones got players in their queues or you're going to get some "unanticipated" draft picks.

StLCards - I sent you the league email to the addy I had for Rotoguru Football's draft.
126deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Fri, Aug 24, 15:15
Numnuts "Jon Wayne" just picked in the last hour before he timed out. See ya'll tomorrow.

Welcome species to the new draft.
127deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Sat, Aug 25, 00:03
Mercy me, we have a winnah!
128kibitzer
      ID: 50752412
      Sat, Aug 25, 09:51
Still around and checking in regularly, just not much I feel needs posting.

I'm getting ready to go help celebrate the love of my life's 7th birthday (Bethany).

Also have a live draft at the local watering hole. (Hope I pick earlier than 10/11th) Wow, noon is way too early to be in a bar:-)
129deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 52320226
      Sat, Aug 25, 12:07
kibitzer - I wouldn't bother checking in here if you know what I mean. ;-)
130F Gump
      ID: 67151221
      Sat, Aug 25, 15:42
I wandered into this thread from the reference in the Baseball forum, and have read all the links.

In case you guys did not notice, this bozo, in last year's league that he signed up for (which thread was linked to this one), VOLUNTEERED to bring in another team owner if you wanted.

Sounds like he might have been trying to set up this stunt LAST year, doncha think? And maybe he more-or-less abandoned his team therein when he was unable to pull off such shenanigans then?

This is not my issue or venue, but I sympathize with you guys and wish you well in dealing with such a prick. Maybe the info I offered will add some insight, if it was not noticed before.
131deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 1852819
      Sat, Aug 25, 16:04
F Gump - you're undoubtedly right. I've never been a big fan of "background checks", but that may change in the future. At least as much as is possible.

I try to accomodate anyone who asks to join in a Sandbox league on a first come - first in basis. Less animosity that way in the long run, and you get to meet some great new gurupies that way. Because I wasn't familiar with a few of the guys who signed up for this league, I didn't make the NFL league a "keeper". That's one anyway. ;-)

The only time I'll search by ID# is when someone's being a troll or the like. Then usually to find out how long they've posted in the forums. We didn't start questioning what was going on for a week after the draft started.

Heck, we've had a couple of guys time out once or twice in our keeper from last year. We're practically spread out all over the world, so that's no big deal. Stuff happens, but this jerk had a plan to begin with.

I just hope he likes the teams he drafts because he's not trading players between the 2 teams if I can help it.
132Bob Sacamano
      ID: 21634217
      Sat, Aug 25, 16:11
even though i'm not involved, it pisses me off.

ditto to what gump said
133Strike One
      ID: 356372421
      Sat, Aug 25, 16:33
That sucks, Guru should ban him.
134TBRaiders
      Donor
      ID: 56426320
      Sun, Aug 26, 19:51
Joe is a jerk.

Last year was my first experience in a sandbox league and it wasn't as enjoyable as it could have been had everyone stayed active. I might try again sometime, but I wouldn't join a league unless everyone was a regular contributor in the forum.

TB
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