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0 Subject: RIFC REG SEASON CHAT #2

Posted by: judy
- [597401015] Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 13:27

Continued good luck to all!
1Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 14:11
butt
2EvilleDestiny
      Leader
      ID: 29017810
      Thu, Oct 11, 2007, 14:48
Wow. This was a tough week to fill a roster for me. I guess I didn't watch my bye weeks to well.
3judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Oct 11, 2007, 15:59
All the injuries surely do not help.

Just out of curiosity, who on your team has missed some game
time due to injury? Here is my list for RustyStone:

Posloszny - IR
Westbrook - I did not replace him on the game lineup -- oops
Dawkins (I am thinking he won't be back for a few more weeks)
Bailey (although the bye week will help)
Pennington (I dumped him after the Eagles bye week)
4 davepyro
      ID: 22742121
      Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 01:19
I have 2 good kickers with byes in week 8, and would like to trade Matt Stover for a #2 QB or WR if someone has a need for a good kicker. I also may make the Packers DEF available for a quality starter if you need a DEF.
5davepyro
      ID: 22742121
      Fri, Oct 12, 2007, 01:32
Injuries for Thunder Bunnies:
I only have 12 roster spots left that I drafted. However, I lost 2 weeks with Ahman Green; will miss 3 weeks for Deion Branch; and I dropped Alex Smith, the SF QB, the week after he was injured. There are not enough roster spots for keeping players thru extensive injuries.
6judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Oct 13, 2007, 08:23
Swing -- don't forget to add your kicker to your lineup!
7BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 12:36
I've had Maroney out for 3 weeks now, Walker out for a few weeks, and Bob Sanders out for I think 2 weeks now. They're 3 of my top players.

This season has just been extremely wierd with top players under performing and then the injuries on top of it. It's pretty difficult to field solid rosters week to week unless you got lucky and haven't had any injuries or under performers.
8Pops
      ID: 988722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 12:57
Damn it!

I've hated AOL since pre-draft.

It's royally screwed me AGAIN!

I hate this POS software...Why in the WORLD are we not using Yahoo/Espn/Pieces of scratch paper? All would be infinitely better than this mindless bunch of toggles and drop-downs known as the AOL fantasy football site.

Screw you AOL!
9weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 13:54
What was the problem?

Tell me you didnt wait until Sunday to set your line up.............
10Pops
      ID: 988722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 17:13
I did.

I had to wait to hear updates on a few people.

I could have gone through and obviously switched Carson to my started and benched Gore, but the site bogs down my computer EVERY time I login. So, I wind up waiting until Sunday to make all my moves.
11judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 18:14
Pops,

I make my initial roster on Thursday and then tweek it as I hear
about injuries, match ups, etc. As far as I can tell, others set initial
line ups early as well.

Live and learn! (I do agree that AOL (in general) is a lousy service,
but we work with what we got!)
12Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 19:47
AOL is slow. You need to be prepared to do something else while you wait for a change of page -- look at another window, feed your pet, take an hour-long walk...

I should have started Griese, not Warner. Why didn't I know that?

Toral
13judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:03
Second week in a row that Bigby (DB/GB) stats are not listed on live
scoring. I went to the GB site and he has 8 solo tackles today. I
wonder why he is being left out???
15judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:10
RE: #2

uh, ED, your lineup did OK for you today...
16Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:22
judy, do you know when the waiver system changes from last-to-first every week to you-lose-waiver-position-with-every-pick. Is it this week?

Toral
17Donkey Hunter
      ID: 12671919
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:22
I don't know if this even has anybody beat but 40 % of my starters were claimed off the free agent wire this week. So that's not only 6 guys who I did not draft but 6 guys who noone else in the league even wanted on their team.
18judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:36
TORAL - yes after this week, WW goes worst to first.
19judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 20:42
DH -- football is crazy, isn't it!

I got 47.5 points today off six guys I did not draft! Also, Hester
starts for me as I have lousy WR and he has been good most weeks
-- this week for 34.34 as they finally used him as a WR and he
scored an 81 yd TD in addition to a PR TD. After a lousy few
weeks, I bench Kampman and he has a monster day - 14.5. Go
figure. Anderson (on the bench) doubles McNabb's points.

I wish I had played 13 this week though...
20judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 14x, 2007, 23:36
Boy, Colston's stock sure has nose dived. 2 passes at him, he
drops one, a few plays later same pass -- lucky for me a TD. They
are not even looking at him...

Anybody want Colston???
21judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:37
A few matchups to be decided tonight ---

Wey v Red
Wey v Slow
Swing v 13

I wish the baseball games took into account normal people's
sleeping hours! Also, it is a SUMMER pastime, not a winter one!
Who wants to play baseball when it's freezing out? Those
Rockies are pretty amazin' and I don't feel so badly that the
Phillies lost...

I still think that Jimmy Rollins should be the MVP for what he did
for the Phillies -- holding them together and being so consistent
along with awesome career and MLB numbers. Anybody know
when they announce that stuff?
22wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:45
What? I actually split with Peterson on the bench?
23BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 15:40
Wow, my Dolphins traded Chambers to San Diego for a 2nd rounder. Not really sure what they were thinking, but oh well.

It'll be interesting to see if his production goes up (hopefully, for me). The cool part is his bye week now switches to this week, messing up my bye weeks I had worked out during the draft!
24BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 12:20
I was taking a look at the claims and WW priority lists since now they aren't resetting for the rest of the season. I assume the site uses the claims list for the Wednesday pickups and the WW list for everything else. If it does work like this...should the lists be the same? I don't remember anything in the RIFC rules stating there were separate lists for this.
25Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 13:19
I gather from posts 85-89 in the RIFC thread that the 2 orders should be the same and that there is a way for the commissioner to set them to synchronize automatically.

Our WW order right now is listed as different from the (new) claims order so judy may have to set the ww order manually and figure out how to do the settings so they synchronize in the future.

Toral
26judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:10
Yea -- I didn't realize that I had to set this week's WW by
Tuesday am -- I waited until Tues at 12:01, so they are now
manually set to match the claims list for this week. They are all
set for the rest of the season.

The order is the same for both (AOL does not allow the claims
results to be synched to the WW -- applicable for weeks 1-6
only -- so I manually set the WW each week after all the claims
(NOT fa drop/add) went through). Here is the order for claims
and WW:
worst to first % season
worst to first, points scored (season)
worst to first, points scored (last week)
virtual coin toss (by AOL).

When you get a player you go to the back of the list for the next
round of that week. Each week resets after the games are over.

OK?
27davepyro
      ID: 21105829
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:14
#21 Judy, They usually announce the MLB awards way after the season is over. I think it is in December or January, and then they announce one a day for a week. Rookie AL, Rookie NL, Cy Young AL, Cy Young NL, Managers of year, then MVP.
#25 Judy, Once the timing is nailed down, could you reiterate timing for both lists for us rookies.
28davepyro
      ID: 21105829
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:17
Do I have to maintain my otherwise unused AOL account just to play in this league?? I want to cancel my AOL account.
29judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:18
Wow the claims and fa drop/adds were busy today. All the WR
on my list were taken! I had trouble ranking them and went with
Moore, Parrish, Toomer and then Walter. They seemed
somewhat equal. I went with Moore #1 as I did not want to have
to deal with a bye week issue, and I got him. Also, he seems to
be getting worked into the Saints offense ... as Colston, whom I
dropped, gets phased out...

Psychos snatched Sammy Knight -- I was hoping to get him via
regular fa drop/add. Phooey.

We gotta all be reading the same stuff/cheat sheets!
30judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:19
Dave #28
I cancelled AOL years ago. As far as I know this is a totally separate
thing. Wait until more folks chime in though...
31Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:23
Each week resets after the games are over.

I don't know if we're talking about the same thing here, but the change starting this week is that claims don't reset going worst-to-first after a week's games anymore. The order after all WW pickups have been made stays as the order for claims the next week. Is that what we have?

The waiver order doesn't show up on AOL the way it should yet. It should be the same as the (just completed) claims order, with Thunder Bunnies, who made the last successful claim, at the bottom.

Toral
32Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:26
As guru said in post 89 in the RIFC thread:

"Once F/A claims are processed, the post-claim priorities should automatically be in effect for subsequent waiver claims. In previous years, the commish had to do this manually."

33judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:40
Toral -- that is only for the first six weeks. After that claims and
WW are not linked. The criteria are the same, but they do not affect
each other.
34Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:41
This stuff gives me a headache! It all starts withn the division between "claims" and "waiver wire".
35judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:42
more --

"Team rankings are established each Tuesday morning."

note the "each" part...
36judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:44
I know it is a mess, but Mike and I talked it through with help from
Guru and I did it correctly for the first six weeks. They are no
longer "linked". Now it is set automatically by AOL as per the
ranking list above...

As far as I could tell, I was the only one to make a WW request...?
Did anyone else try? Most people did claims and then fa drop/
adds.
37Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:21
Sorry, guru's post 102 here is what I should have cited. Posted last Sunday:
Reminder: this is the last week that claim priorities reset. Once they reset on Tuesday, they will simply carry forward for the rest of the regular season without any resets. Successful claims (F/A or waiver) will move you to the end of the line, and the only way you will move up the priority list is when the claims of other teams are processed.
However I will leave the matter to you, judy. I'm certainly not one to complain about worst-to-first seeding!

Toral
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 21:54
[36 & 37]
Claims and waivers remain linked at all times. That never changes.

There should be no more resets of either. They should simply carry forward seamlessly, adjusted only for successful claims/waivers.

Hopefully, the system will continue to keep them linked. I changed the commissioner priority settings to manual for both, and left the link box checked.

The current waiver priorities should reflect the results of the just-completed claiming process. Next week's free agent claiming priorities should be the rollover of this week's final waiver priorities.
39judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 22:17
Oh man, Guru, you mean I have to manually go over all the
claims (both the 12:01 and the fa drop/adds) and waiver wires
each week?

AOL does NOT link them -- I have had to manually reset the WW
after the Weds 12:01 claims were awarded. I kept the claims as
worst to first, etc criteria and they reset automatically each week
after the standings were posted.

I thought Mike said that after week six, he didn't have to do
anything. I am sure that's what happened last year. My claiming
order last year was always how far from the bottom I was each
week...One of my AA buddies rarely used the claiming system
and did fa drop/adds after the claims were awarded (at 12:02)
so he would not be penalized in the WW order.

I also think I am the only one who has done a WW request this
year in our league.

The printout I made from last year's league (same as this year)
states that the WW resets each Tuesday am.

When you change the ranking to manual by commish, what does
AOL do - just keep rolling through the check box for "move to
end of ranking order"?

This is SO confusing. Can I ask my managers if they want to
stay with worst to first, with a reset each week? Otherwise I
need to manually reset both the claiming and the WW each week
and I am sure they weren't touched by the commish after week 6
last year -- but what WAS the setting for each?
40judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 22:31
Toral re #31

Thunderbunnies is at the bottom of the claims order. I am still
checking to see what to do about the WW order. Fortunately, I have
48 hours as the dropped players from today are not released from
the WW until 12:01 on friday.

Hopefully, it will be figured out by then.
41Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 22:42
Thanx for looking into this, judy.

I've never been a commish under AOL but I would guess that all you will have to do is to first manually reset the WW order to the order now shown on the claims page, and then change the league settings to (1) remove worst-to-first re-ordering; and (2) have teams go to the bottom of the order after a successful Claim or Waiver Wire pickup. Hopefully it won't be too complicated to do this reset. As you say we've got till Friday noon to figure this out.

The f/a add/drops don't enter into this as they are always first come first served and successful adds do not affect the order of anything.

Toral
42judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 22:48
Toral,
that is sort of what I am thinking, but Mike told me that after
week 6, he did NOT have to change the WW order any more, so
that is where I am confused.

I think for AOL, that claims and WW will have to stay separate
and that each order will roll in the rankings as claims and WW
are processed. That seems to make the most sense. I think that
means that I set up a manual order for the WW this week, but
don't touch it once it gets started. The new claims order is set,
but I need to know what to use so that it does not reset itself.

I honestly do not think that anyone else has used the WW yet to
grab any one. I usually get all the transaction notices and I do
try to remember to look for them and I cannot remember any
other than mine.
43Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 23:07
Actually I picked Ron Brown up off the WW last Friday -- had dropped him on Wednesday and changed my mind.

Not sure if there have been any others.

Toral
44judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 23:14
Pops,

As much as I would love to beat you this week, I want it to be
fair and square, so be sure to set your lineup early this time.

Most of our managers have already set a preliminary lineup for
this week -- tweaking as they hear more about injuries comes
later. For example, you KNOW that you are going to start
Palmer, so why not put him in now?

Trying to access AOL on Sunday morning is a HUGE mistake --
all the last minute folks (thousands of them) are trying to get to
the server and it takes a long time as you found out!

Judy
45judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:33
OK -- I just heard from Mike, our 2007 commish, and he told me
what to do, so we should be all set. Due to the AOL set up, claims
and WW will be independent, but as you make a claim or WW you
roll to the bottom of the respective list.
46Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:01
I was wondering how long Leftwich would stay unclaimed after he had been named to start. Quite a while, as it turned out; the info was out yesterday afternoon. I saw it last night, but don't need him at QB; I could have picked him up and tried to trade him, or one my other QBs, but I couldn't be sure I could have gotten anyone with as much value.

I was surprised because this league has been quite active in claims at least. I know one of the AAA leagues has managers complaining about rampant manager inactivity. I was tempted to suggest to judy that she ask the AAA managers to count their transactions on Wednesday at noon and compare them with ours, but I never got around to it.

Toral

47Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:43
davepyro 28 You don't need to have any direct relationship with AOL to play. (Is that what you meant?) You don't have to subscribe to AOL.

I have a (free) account with AOL's Instant Messenger system and I can log into this game and play with that.

Toral
48BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 22:15
I love it. Guess I've learned my lesson to just stay the hell away from Javon Walker. He ruined my RIFC (the main league) season 2 years ago and is now basically useless again this season. I'm just waiting for Maroney to be done for the rest of the season so I can throw in the towel with my 1st and 3rd round picks being a total waste.
49judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 07:45
Hey Bonka -- that's why I work hard to try and find IDP's. Only for
me it is my WR that are average and inconsistent. I am getting
lucky this year only due to Hester's awesome KOR and PR success
(and his TD catch last week), but even that is a crap shoot as some
teams won't kick to him. I will be curious to see what the Eagles do
as their ST are not good. The papers here are full of ideas...
50BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 14:11
Maroney is finally back, but all the Pats do is throw the ball. And now that they're up by a ton, I'm sure Maroney won't even play. To make things worse, it's my favorite team getting beat up on. I just can't win with this game!
51BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 17:54
Wow, horrible call that negates Cole's sack. Even the NFL officials are against me.

Pretty tough game here in Philly though so far.
52judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 20:11
Philly cannot buy a break! I do not understand the offense at all.
Nothing was thrown deep or down the sidelines, or across the
middle, just short dinks and dunks that went nowhere.

No excuses for letting CHI go 97 yards in 1:30 minutes. Call a time
out when the clock is already stopped and figure out what you have
to do.

Pitiful! Painful! Putrid!
53judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 21:22
Has Pops/Team 13 quit on us?

This is the second time he did not set a lineup, leaving out a QB
and a DEF. He picked up the Lions DEF on saturday so I
assumed that he was going to set a lineup for today. I did not
intervene as commish as I was away from my computer
beginning at ~9:30 am today and assumed since he picked up
a DEF on Sat that he would set a lineup.

I also posted here (#44) and sent him an email reminder to set
his lineup.

I will probably still lose to him as our 2 IDPS duke it out.
Whoever has more points wins the matchup.) That CHI drive vs
the Eagles killed my DEF points.

54BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 22:06
No worries judy, I'm losing to him as well. Pretty unbelievable how freakin lucky you can get with huge games from the guys you do have going to win without filling 3 slots. He's just lucky that an invalid roster doesn't give you an automatic loss for the week. Unless that's in the rules and we looked it over.

I'm pretty glad I started the wrong QB and the two guys I had to pick up for fill ins this week put up zeros. Injuries + unexpected bye + expected bye + bad games = pretty bad week!
55judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 22:39
Yea -- I probably should not have started Hester as my other WR --
I would have done better. the Eagles kicked away from him and he
only caught two passes, but one was crucial to the TD drive. sigh.

I see Colston bombed again... both Roddy and Lance outpointed
him... I dropped him because last week at least they were not even
throwing to him and his season stats for Catches/Att are not good.
He might snap out of it, but I decided to bail on him. he looks lost.

I am finished with my significant byes after this week, so I will have
no one to blame but myself for my lineup! (baring injuries...)
56judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Oct 22, 2007, 07:57
It looks like all the results are "final" except for Wey (Harrison and
M Jackson) vs E'ville (Jones Drew, Brackett, and Hayden).

The standings will be shaken up again except for very lucky Team
13 who won both games without a QB and DEF and an inactive RB.

Pops are you still playing or should I get another manager for your
team? Let me know ASAP.
57Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 13:18
My carefully preserved draft position allowed me to grab Chatman, right in time for Larry Johnson's bye week. Let's hope this is the beginning of a period of better luck.
58Donkey Hunter
      ID: 1444646
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 17:51
Wow that sucks. My carefully preserved draft position did not allow me to grab another running back since my top 3 draft choices are all out. I will be taking it out on you this Sunday Toral. Watch out.
59judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 21:46
My 13th pick enabled me to grab Roydell Williams (2nd choice).
I am not even sure that is a good thing, but I needed another
WR. I had Chatman 4th, as I am PRAYING that Westbrook and
Lynch stay healthy -- byes all gone...

I know I am not starting Donovan for a while -- Eagles offense is
too boring and stagnant. (Watch him put up Lions like #'s this
week...)

DH and TB, it's you and me kiddos! I got nothing to lose!

60BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 14:38
Just glad that Ronnie gets hurt after I drop Chatman in both of my leagues. I wonder what else is going to go wrong for the Dolphins. Maybe their plane leaves them in London?
61judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 16:43
Bonka -- this really has not been your year!
62Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:11
Being left in London is a pretty nice fate.

How bout being quarantined in Buffalo after losing December 9 and having to spend the winter there?

Listen: no crying here. I watched the Bills lose every game to the Fish during the 70s. Twice a year for a decade. When the Bills finally broke the streak on opening day 1980 we swarmed onto the field and tore down the goalposts. I don't think they would sit by and let that happen in the NFL nowadays -- wasn't it the last time the goalposts were torn down in the NFL? But after that win, nobody was in a mood to stop us or pretend to try.

Toral
63judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 21:40
I think I might have to chicken out and start Donovan...MINN is
pretty weak and he does have a point to prove...???

AAAK!
64Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 22:24
I'll try to help, judy:

The Sharks have McNabb #7, Anderson #12

FF Toolbox has McNabb #3, Anderson #6

Freaks have it as Anderson #5, McNabb #11

Pigskin Addiction says Anderson #5, McNabb # 10

FF Today has Anderson #5, McNabb #10

Outlaw FF has McNabb #3, Anderson #4

RotoRob has Anderson #3, McNabb #12

Roger Rotter (Fox) has McNabb #2, Anderson #5

Harmon (Fox) has Anderson #4, McNabb #7

CBS Sportsline has Anderson #5, McNabb #9

I hope that clarifies the situation for you.

Toral

P.S. We should all have such problems.

Why not start one QB in game 1, and the other in game 2?
65judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 17:05
That's funny -- sort of mirroring my dilemma. With my luck, I
would put the wrong QB in the wrong game! Both are
recommended "must starts". I will see what the tea leaves say
when I wake up on Sunday...

Totalling up those points:
Mc Nabb = 74
Anderson = 54
so, using Xcountry scoring, Anderson wins by a long shot. He
certanly has been more consistent.

The biggest problem with McNabb is that he has no "go to"
receivers. They all stink, which is a point of view FINALLY
exposed in the papers today. Our top 2 are Curtis and Brown.
UGH. The others are useless -- no point in even trying to
defend them -- let 'em go, they won't get thrown to. The Eagles
need to spend some $$$$$$ and get a decent set of receivers
for McNabb.
66BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 21:53
The Eagles need a guy like T.O.

:D
67judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 22:59
Uh , Bonka, I believe we tried that scenario and as I recall it did
not turn out too well...

Although I have to tell you it was a fun time in Eagleville -- all
we did was throw the ball -- 2 plays -- boop score! 3 plays --
boop -- another score! Usually we were up by 7 in the first 5
minutes. You had to be there at the very start of the game or
you missed it! If they had kept throwing to him in the Super
Bowl, we would have won, but they didn't want to tire him out...
seesh.

Toral - re #62 and Philly being listed in SI.com photos as the #1
disappointing city for pro sports (They don't count in/outdoor
LAX.)
68Pops
      ID: 988722
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 18:39
Judy, others -

Judy and I exchanged emails earlier this week.

To summarize -

I'm done w/ AOL.

In the last 2 weeks I have spent approx 1.5 hours on the AOL site fiddling w/ my roster and the site. I have 2 incomplete roster's to show for it. From day 0 (literally, the first time I logged in) I have had problems with the site.

As a married man w/ 2 young children, I will not just continue to feed time into AOL and hope for better results. I have far better things to do w/ my time. Last week I even changed from my normal Sunday morning routine - nothing.

I'll give it another go tonight, but i'm not spending my entire night on the site. I was on vacation this week so I was out of touch, but i'm back home now. I'm back to checking this forum daily, but that means nothing as far as my lineup goes.

Also, you can call it luck if you want, but if I beat you w/ 4/5 of a team...sounds like i'm pretty damn good ;).
69judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 19:05
Pops -- be sure to let me know where I can help by doing an
override for you as per our emails.

70judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 23:02
Pops,

I see that you fixed Boley and your DEF. With RB Morris
doubtful, do you want RB Jordan?

Also WR Owens is on a bye -- how about WR Johnson instead?
You still need a PK. I sent you a list via email. Let me know
what to do.

I am going to bed now, but if I still see Morris and Owens I will
swap them out. I won't do anything about your PK unless I hear
from you. I leave my house Sunday at ~ 9 am and won't be back
at a computer until game time, so by 9 am is when I will make
the changes -- unless you have done it already or I hear
otherwise from you.

OK? Please answer here in the thread.

Judy
71judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 09:11
Pops,

I just checked your lineups and you look good to go.

Hopefully, AOL was more cooperative this time around.

Judy
72judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 17:09
Whoever has Vrabel, let me know, You get 6 more points for his
TD.
73BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 18:15
Ahh, can Maroney please get these TDs rather than Brady? Pretty much killing my chances of beating Scorpians this week.

Good news is Colston has 2 TDs. I figured he'd get back into the offense once it started rolling again after the poor start.
74BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 18:43
Sigh, at least I move up the rankings in points against. Pretty hard to win games when you have one of the toughest schedules :/
75judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 19:41
Well, Donkey, it's Kampman and Bigby vs Driver for the win
tomorrow night.

TBunnies, it's Kampman, Bigby and a 36 point lead vs Wynn,
Crosby, Den DEF and Woodson for the win.

I guess I'll be staying up late on Monday night again!

My WR let me down big time today...and Lynch missing a lot of the
first half did not help...
76judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 19:47
I just checked -- nobody has Vrabel this week. I think I heard his
line is TD, 3 sacks, 13 tackles, 1 FF. I'll bet he gets picked up next
week!
77judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 19:48
Jack Hammer

What happened? - a few of your players were on bye...
78Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 01:35
I was thinking of starting different WRs in the 2 games today. Vincent Jackson in the game where I seemed a bit closer to the ability of the othet team, and R. Brown vs. E'D, as a boom-or-bust guy I might need against a better team on paper. In the end I started V.J. in both

V.J. scored zip. I lead E'D by 4 1/2 pts, w Brandon Marshall going against Ian Gold tomorrow night. And Reggie Brown having scored 10.5 today.

If I lose tomorrow, it may break my spirit forever.

And I could well lose to DH as well, who has Driver.

Toral
79Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 02:29
Re: 77 I was buried in a sea of Q's, omd D's and byes. Couldn't unload enough players to fill the byes. Players that I don't want to give up. Took a chance. The free agent market isn't exactly overloaded with talent in RG leagues. Not enough anyway to lose 3 or 4 players over.

Sorry I couldn't take out the leader, But since he's not showing up anymore, or whatever I don't think he's the team we need to worry about any longer.

Looking to get healthy and make a second half puxh. Need the perfect mix of Lucky and Good. Good Luck
81judy
      ID: 597401015
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 13:14
Some very close contests awaiting tonight's game...

I like the Bonka v Slow -- which QB will be better tonight?

Also, bonka, you are welcome for Colston -- I guess I should not
have given up so soon...esp since my WR are lousy now...

Also lost Coles and Brady (NE TE to injury during the games...).

Toral - I did as you suggested one QB in each game -- I think I
put them into the correct games... tonight will tell!
82BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 20:47
Remember, I did offer you a trade for him!

Hopefully I can pull this game out against Slow, especially after putting up what looks to be a for sure top 4 score and having to play the top score (175 with Jennings still going, jesus) and another top 4.

Looks like my only shot at the playoffs are being one of the top 2 point teams outside of the top 6 in standings.
83judy
      ID: 487162821
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 21:56
they still are not posting bigby's live scoring points -- 3rd week
in a row.

you and me bonk -- I need the points too. bonk, as I recall,
you also wanted Lynch...
84BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:33
Oh my god, I can't take this. Now it's down to OT for who wins between me and Slowhand. I wish Elam missed that.
85judy
      ID: 487162821
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:34
please do not pass to driver!
86dror
      ID: 5283329
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:35
LOL Bonka looks like my guys want you to lose your other game too... Jennings just called it right on the coin toss
87BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:37
Unreal, this is the shit I have to deal with in fantasy this year...
88judy
      ID: 487162821
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:37
phew

sorry about that bonk
89dror
      ID: 5283329
      Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 23:39
WOW... sorry Bonka... that's a real heartbreaker
90judy
      ID: 597401015
      Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 09:06
Bigby gets 6 points (5 solo/2 assist) - they are still not posted...

Anyone else mising points this week?
91Slowhand-at work
      ID: 16532417
      Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 11:56
I was wearing my lucky Farve jersey last night,I really thought Farve still had it but he'll need a running game to go very far in the play offs... I've been a Packers fan for 40+ years so last night was really sweet.
That had to be a tough one tho Bonka.
92Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 15:15
If the season ended today, there'd be quite a finish to the race for that 8th and final playoff spot, decided on points for:

*Thunder Bunnies 1996.48
Rusty Stone 1991.88
Swingandamiss 1987.46
93judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Nov 01, 2007, 21:57
What a mess -- I have 7 WR and none of the 3 good ones can play
this week Coles (concussion), Wade (knee), Hester (bye). I am stuck
starting Jones (GB two good games in a row? unlikely), R White (he
should be OK) and Northcutt (JAX - Who is the QB?).
My IDP's better come through for me...
94judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Nov 01, 2007, 22:06
I worry about Andy Reid. From our city paper:

Garrett and Britt Reid were sentenced to jail today on charges
stemming from January traffic incidents, and in a dramatic
moment, the judge likened their home environment to a "drug
emporium."

Their father is Eagles coach Andy Reid.

Judge Steven O'Neill questioned whether Reid's adult sons
should live there, given their drug problems.

"There isn't any structure there that this court can depend upon.
. . . This is a family in crisis," O'Neill said.

-----
My comments:
It is clear that these kids (aged 22 and 24) have serious
addiction issues, but at what point are they adults? And just
where does the judge expect them to live -- after being in jail
for the next several months?

In an online poll, 70% feel that the parents "bear responsibility
for their sons' criminal activity."
95BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 14:11
Sigh, now Cutler is hurt and out. Helps me a ton in the points race for the playoffs.
96judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 17:36
Oh, so THAT'S why denver didn't score many points! What kind
of injury?

I am waiting for Anderson to heat up...

Also, Fightin joe -- you only set one lineup (what happened?)
but it is doing great -- might beat out Team 13 high point
record! What a day for Peterson!
97judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 17:45
opps - fighin' --just checked --your guys are all done for the
day...

GO INDY!!

Go IGGLES!

Make my day!
98dror
      ID: 5283329
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 19:49
I felt bad about giving up my 3rd place in the waivers rank for Davis Harris, but it sure looks like the right call now.

Brady is back to earth, but I think I'm good for another top scoring round. Next week he is off and my backup (Gerrard) is injured, hopefully I will be able to find someone decent to start.
99judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 19:54
Yeh - You grabbed him before I could! The kid is a tackling
machine!
100judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 19:55
Can you believe that Anderson did not throw even ONE TD pass?
What are the odds of that? Watch Donovan have a great game...
101weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 20:12
Can you believe that Anderson did not throw even ONE TD pass?
What are the odds of that? Watch Donovan have a great game...


I have no idea why you would start Anderson over Donovan.....but I thank you.
102judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 20:53
statistically (is that a word I just madeup?) and consistently,
Anderson is better than Donovan -
and with Dallas on the ticket, it seemed a no brainer. I figured
Anderson was good for at least 2 TD's (and 12 points!)

time will tell...at least I have Westbrook...
103judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:28
this iggles offense is SO BORING!
104judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:41
WEY --

Donovan at half time = -0.44

I suspect it will not get much better -- he seems not to be able
to look to the right at the free receivers...though most of our
receivers stink anyway...
105judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 22:42
now the iggles defense is in the negative -- I knew players could
be negative, but not defenses (or what pass for defenses) and
there are still12:44 to go.

This is BAD...
106judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 23:16
jeez -- thanks guys for all the sympathy... I know you've been
reading...
107judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 11:38
well, here is the local scoop.
Donovan will continue to play this season so that he can be
evaluated for his future as an Eagle or for trade bait. Also, the
upcoming schedule is horrendous for a rookie -- it includes NE,
NO, DAL, WASH, NYG, BUF and SEA. All those are losable.
Lo, we might even lose to MIA.
I put my Iggle fleece away for the season...
108BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 21:59
Miami needs to beat someone... :D
109Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 22:51
Trade offer sent your way, BoNkA.
110judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 19:21
Pops,

You adjusted your Team 13 lineup for 10-28, but you did not
make any changes for 11-4.

It appears that although that you have, indeed and
unfortunately, abandoned your team. Although I offered to help
you via email to set your lineup, I did not hear from you all
week.

I am sorry that AOL has been such a hassle for you, but I can
find no one else who has had similar problems.

If this is, in fact, your final decision, please post it in this thread
so that the other managers will know of your decision.

At that point, I will seek a new manager for your team. If you
are planning to continue to manage, please indicate that,
however know that we will expect you to attempt to keep your
team competitive each and every week.

Sincerely,

Judy
Commissioner RIFC AA 2007
111judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 23:22
League Trade deadline is coming up -- I believe it is this Friday
(11-9) at 11:30 pm EST. Please let me know if you think otherwise.
112judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 17:23
In League Manager League: 2007 RIFC AA,

The fighting joe carsons has approved a trade with Toral
Wheatfarmers on Wed 11/07 1:51p ET.

The commissioner will need to approve this trade to finalize the
transaction.


Toral Wheatfarmers has traded:
RB Chester Taylor, MIN


And received from The fighting joe carsons:
RB Justin Fargas, OAK

If there are no objections posted here on the thread, the trade
will become final onThursday, Nov 8th at 5:22 PM EST.
113judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 11:58
Pops

I need to hear of your decision by noon EST on FRIDAY , NOVEMBER
9.
114 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 1472415
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 06:57
Wow, this league has been devoid of trades.

If anyone is looking to close a last minute deal, I have LB available...I'd be interested in a serviceable RB/WR/TE.
115judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 15:04
swing -

AA rarely has ANY trades so the few we have had are notable.
116judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 23:01
Hi to All,

Pops has defaulted on his manger title for Team 13. I have
found a new owner.

It is GURU, who is the Commissioner/Founder of all the RIFC
leagues. He will manage the team through out the regular
season to maintain the competitive balance. The only major
change is that he might go get an IDP for this week (a bye) --
otherwise he will use the players already on the team.

Guru and I have agreed, however, that Team 13 will not be
eligible for the playoffs. The top 8 teams, as per the rules, will
duke it out. We will figure out what to do with the uneven
number for the consolation playoffs and I will entertain
suggestions from those managers.

If you have any questions or concerns about this, please post
them in the thread so that we all can participate in the
discussion.

Thanks.

Judy
117Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 10:35
I'm in, and have picked up a DL to fill a bye opening, and also added a backup RB in case Gore is unable to play. Since he isn't scheduled until Monday night, my options were pretty limited there.

My only other contingency for this week appears to be Jerry Porter, who is listed as questionable. I think I'll leave him active for now, and scramble at the last minute if he's inactive.

I did think that it was more advisable to have a backup QB than a second kicker, so I added Palmer's backup at Cincy as a disaster handcuff.

If it turns out that I do have to replace Porter, however, I'll drop Fitzpatrick to fill that need.


In general, my philosophy will be to try to keep the best lineup active for the rest of the regular season, in an attempt to preserve league integrity. When we get to the playoffs, this team will be ineligible for the Championship playoffs. If you want me to manage it in any Consolation playoffs, I'm willing to do that, although the team looks rather stacked, and probably isn't a very fair competitor for the other 5 teams. Up to you guys.
118judy
      ID: 597401015
      Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 22:25
thanks GURU
119judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 20:24
What? -- no live comments on the games this weekend??
120davepyro
      ID: 22742121
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 23:26
Guru, This is my first year in RIFC, and you also drafted in the 10th position this year. Could you tell me your draft strategy, or show me the link to your draft discussion?? My draft stunk, and I have already traded my #3 pick for lack of performance. My team is Thunder Bunnies.
Welcome to the league and thanks for helping out in our need!!
121Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 23:28
We need a Seattle pick or sack or 2 here to allow us to upset Team 13 here. But the 49ers also have to keep the ball out of Gore's hands, and Brown can't kick a FG or XPt....A lot to ask.

Toral
122judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 11:54
Toral -- sooooo close to upsetting Team 13!

Bonka and Jack were sooo close too!

No more byes -- so now I think choices get harder for the game
matchups, esp with IDP's. I am really hoping that Lynch is OK...
123Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 13:09
Well. if I hadn't been so dumb as to choose Longwell for my kicker I would have won, so really I deserve losing.

There's going to be a real battle among teams near .500 for the last W/L playoff spot, and the 2 most-points slots. The teams that have the most at stake in *Winning Games*, interest in beating opponents, are RustyStone (judy) and Thunder Bunnies (davepyro). Each would want to get into the playoffs on W/L alone to avoid the mess that is the total points rankings. These can change quickly; even as of last week, Bonka looked like a shoo-in for the top total-points slot; suddenly he's not.

As of now, competition for 2 playoff total-points slots is among:
Thunder Bunnies 2566.10
BoNkA 2539.60
Thunder Bunnies 2522. 36
Re the current RIFC rules: giving the last 2 playoff spots on total points *may* be fairer, but it lessens the possibility of dramatic events in the last 2 weeks, wherein a loser upsets a better team and costs it a playoff spot, or people have to wait till the final gun in MNF to know who's in the playoffs. Of course Guru has adopted this for RIFC and it's now custom and accepted, but I'm not sure whether I like it or not. Anyone have opinions?

I have achieved one of my goals for this end-of-season and playoffs period. Behind my top 2 RB choices, I have 3 starting RBs: Chatman, Fargas and Young. Unfortunately, despite this amassing of talent, I am not going to be in the playoffs. I had a feeling that was going to be a problem.

Toral

124Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 13:36
No, Thunder Bunnies doesn't have 2 teams!

The correct stats:

SwingandaMiss 2566.10
BoNkA 2539.60
Thunder Buunies 2522.36
125judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 13:55
Toral,

I don't like the points total for the 7/8 places either. I think W/L
first and then points for to break the tie. Oh, well. My total is only
2555.02, so I NEED to be in the top 6 (and I might be thanks to
Team 13 being defaulted out of the playoffs!) I have two tough
matchups this week (slow and joe -- I lost to Joe first time
around...I think that was the game Westbrook DNP at the last
minute...). I did better when my opponents had byes...
126Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:25
davepyro 120
RIFC Draft Rationales Follow the links at the end of the rationales to see the rationales for the whole draft.

RIFC Draft Recap See the manager's summing up of their approach to the whole draft.

Toral
127judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:49
Yesterday while cleaning out the recycle paper bin in my office, I
found the fantasty football sites ranking cheatsheets dated
8-23.

So I decided to use the FF current season rankings to see where
players were now. Very interesting.

They are listed by current ranking and the # in () is where they
were on August 23.

QB
1 Brady (5)
2 Romo (7)
3 Anderson (40)
4 Ben (15)
5 Brett (12)
6 Peyton (1)
7 Carson (3)
8 Drew (4)
9 Hasselback (9)
10 Donovan (10)
128judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:51
RB

1 AP (35)
2 Brian (7)
3 LT (1)
4 Addai (4)
5 Portis (22)
6 Brown (15 -- IR)
7 Lynch (20)
8 McGahee (13)
9 Barber (23)
10 Bush (12)

Obviously injuries have affected this group.
129judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:53
WR

1 Moss (21)
2 Edwards (17)
3 TO (6)
4 TJ Housh (12)
5 Wayne (3)
6 Welker (63!)
7 Burress (13)
8 Chad (1)
9 Fitzgerald (10)
10 Smith (2)

QB situations have afffected THIS group -- for both good and
bad!
130judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:55
TE

1 Gates (1)
2 Winslow (3)
3 Witten (9)
4 Gonzales (5)
5 Miller (15)
6 Clark (11)
7 Shockey (2)
8 Cooley (7)
9 Watson (10)
10 Lee (29)

It seems this position has the least variation from pre season to
now.

Any comments?
131judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:58
DEF

1 Lions (29)
2 SD (4)
3 NE (7)
4 Bears (1)
5 Seattle (16)
6 Titans (8)
7 Bengals (28)
8 Bills (14)
9 Jax (24)
10 Steelers (12)
132judy
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 20:36
My team is now an RB mess... I thought I was all set with Lynch
and Westbrook with L Washington as a back up. Well, out goes
Lynch, bummed knee goes Westbrook (although I do expect him to
play vs MIA). My saving grace, but just for this weekend, is that
Leon is going against the bottom dwelling Steeler return defense...
There are no more RB out there. I almost took Dayne, but waffled
for a few days and now Nathan has him...sigh.
133Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sat, Nov 17, 2007, 18:13
Too bad the trading deadline is so early. I have 4 starting RBs and could have extraced some value from you, judy.
134judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Nov 17, 2007, 23:39
It's my own stupid fault. I'd been looking at Dayne's availability for
a few days but couldn't figure out who to drop. Then after he was
gone the light bulb went on! 20-25 touches by a starting RB beats
3-4 touches by a TE (NO Johnson). STUPID!

Hopefully Lynch will be healed by next week. I wasn't looking for
great stats from him vs the Pats anyway, but I do need him healthy
down the road. They would be safe not to play him if there is any
doubt.
135Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 10:43
I've sure been disappointed in many of my players' this year; Tomlinson, Holt, Ward in particular. Farve has exceeded my best projections and Galloway has been better than I hoped,but they've been the only bright spots in a very average year so far.
136Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 10:46
Also I think the Chargers coaching fire and hire may go down as one of the worst in recent history. Turner and his staff often look lost...
137davepyro
      ID: 22742121
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 12:41
There is no way without Travis Henry that I am making playoffs. Now Ahman Green is looking out for rest of year. That leaves K. Keith, J. Jones, and Chicago's Peterson for my 3 RB's. I did not draft any of them!! Does anyone believe their RB roster is worse??

Thanks for the links, Toral.
138judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 14:03
Donovan goes the the locker room (R knee) with 0.08 points. I
am doomed...
139Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 14:28
That sucks 137 & 138, but my main man Farve is hot again, but LT and the Chargers offense look confused and inept.
140judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 14:36
Well, as an Eagles fan, we are horrid again -- something is so
wrong with this team, but it is a different aspect of the game
each time. However, basically our offense stinks -- play calls
and execution. Sigh, It is like the not-so-good old days...
Regardless of who is the QB next year, we need to get some
decent WR!
141judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 14:46
McNabb -- ankle not broken, return doubtful and then they give
the ball to Buckhalter for the TD! Sheesh!
142judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 16:55
I started 4 DB. What are the odds that NONE of them scored me
a point?
143BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 18:06
Yeah I'm a little worried. My team hasn't been putting up great point totals lately and it's looking like it's going to cost me a playoff spot. Hopefully they pick it up next week.
144davepyro
      ID: 22742121
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 18:13
Judy, Watch the highlights tonite. Josh Brown the Seattle Kicker ripped up your man Hester on a kick off return early in 3rd quarter.
145judy
      ID: 487162821
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 18:45
Fortunately, I did not start hester... everyone else disappointed
instead!
146BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 01:23
Dang, apparently I had my lineups wrong. I scored enough points to beat Bunnies in my other game, hah.
147judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 13:19
Injuries for me this week:
McNabb (tell me again why I continue to start him over Anderson?)
Lynch
Coles
Mikell (DB)
Wright (DB)
None are really expected to play this week either... I was in decent
shape until all THAT happened. Now my team is a MESS!
And, I play Team 13 this week.
148judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 13:20
Bonk -- you and I are so close for that #8 slot...
149judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 13:53
I have started a new link for the end of season and playoffs.

It is at: RIFC AA CHAT #3
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?
board=footst&thread=870&lastpost=1195671093

Would someone please link it up for me?

Thanks.
150Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 14:00
This discussion has been moved to RIFC AA#3. :The Triumph of the Undead"

Post there now.
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