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0 Subject: ***Rotoguru Auction League 2008***

Posted by: sarge33rd
- [76442923] Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 09:09

Guys, I've been putting this off, but cant any longer. I have been trying to find the time, and just dont have it, to commish this league this year. It is my sincere hope, that another can come forward and take the reins. I truly enjoy the format and the unique challenges it presents and hope you do as well.

So in short...who has the time and is willing to take the league and run with it?
1 Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 12:30
I am in for playing this year and possibly taking the reins of commissioner, with some help and input of course. The one thing I would have a problem with is using AOL's fantasy site. ESPN is now offering Auction leagues. Not sure about how the set up works for that but I'd advocate for us to use the Rotoguru Boards like last year for the draft.

I do not like the AOL Leagues personally. I found them to take forever to load from page to page and the way you would set rosters was somewhat frustrating and confusing. I'd be for moving the league to either Yahoo or ESPN. I've never used CBS Sportsline, but if a majority of the league was for moving it there then I could adapt. :)

If we choose to use AOL again I'll play, but I would prefer not to commish the league. I'd be willing to help whoever commishes keep track of the bids.
2youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 14:10
I will continue playing this year, but I don't think that it makes sense being a commish because I'm at least 6 hours ahead of you and can't follow the bidding you do in the afternoon.

I just clicked through the setup-options at ESPN. they pretty much support everything we need for our scoring. compared to last year some small scoring changes are required for short FGs and Points Allowed. all the rest is possible, even our division setup (3 divisions with 4 teams). its free too.
they have an option for a Auction Draft, but only if you do it live. I doubt that a live draft can last 3 to 4 weeks.
3Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 14:23
The only thing ESPN doesn't have is a FA bidding system like AOL had. We could easily still do that. If I'm commish I could set up an e-mail account (like gurubids@gmail.com or something) and we could e-mail our bids to that address and every Wednesday at noon I will check that account and award bids. I'd post everyone's bids on league's discussion board so you can all see. If you don't agree with that we can have a 3rd party (friend of someone in the league) receive e-mails and then that person e-mails me the bids on Wednesday.

I just went to AOL and they have moved all of their fantasy games to Fleaflicker. I think some people on here have used that, but I don't know how that works so if we stay with AOL/Fleaflicker I'll still decline the commish duties. Yahoo and ESPN are my fortes. My friends leagues (we have NBA, NFL, and MLB dynasty leagues) have been running on ESPN for 3 years now and other than last year's baseball debacle it's been great for everything we've needed. Their keeper option is fantastic.

Also after looking at the posts, it seems this league has bounced around from site to site. Last year was my first year in it, but it seems like you've all used Yahoo, ESPN, and AOL. So you could probably decide which you like best.
4blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:15
The ESPN QA team regularly reads this board, so I recommend posting as much detail as possible here.
5wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:34
i plan on continuing as the commish for this league- Kyle i would be willing to have you co commish if you are interested.
6Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:50
RE 4: It's tough to explain the FA bidding system when I didn't fully understand how to use it, but I'll try my best.

At the end of the draft last year Sarge (the commish) put in the rosters and then put in how much money each team had left to bid on FAs. Each week there would be a way to queue your FA bids so that you could say I want to drop Player A and pick up Player B for $X. If I am outbid on player B I want to pick up Player C for $X. It allowed for 3 different options to be put in (I believe, it may have been more) and then at Noon each Wednesday the queues would be processed and the money would be deducted from each manager's pot of money.

Sarge also had an option to change how much money each player had in their pot due to fines or dropped players that would return money (Dropping a player prior to kickoff of week 6, returns 1/2 that players salary, rounded down.)

RE 5: Must have missed you saying you'd take over, so I'll be glad to help out where needed.
7wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:56
Kyle- I didnt say it- I have been commish of this league since it started- then Sarge volunteered to help and i was real busy so I let him run it, but i kept up as much as i could.
8DWetzel at work
      ID: 278201415
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:06
I haven't time to commish the league (August is a really really icky time for me work-wise), but I would love to be back.
9Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:23
Didn't realize that, I joined last year and didn't know who commished before that. :) Sarge just did such a good job that I thought he was the previous commish
10sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 18:39
We used ESPN once before with this league, and it was an unmitigated disaster.

Glad to see folks stepping forward. :)
11wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 12:01
Kyle- If you want you can take the lead on this- I just found out today that I am going need to have surgery and I will be away for a period of time- I will still help out as much as possible with bids and keeping people on task but I dont know if I can commit to commishing.
12Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 12:40
Oh man, I hope all goes well with that.
I can commish the league this year and if you want the reigns back next year I'll gladly take a lesser role.

Sarge, check your inbox, I had a question for you.
13sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 15:20
reply sent
14Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 16:24
Here's the list of managers I've found from last year:

sarge33rd
wiggs
Slowhand
Kyle
Jackhammers
Frick
The Beezer
youngroman
Scarecrow71
DWetzel
GolfFreak
wolfer

If you are in could you please check in? When you check in could you either leave your e-mail address or e-mail me just so I have it for our "records".

Last year we started the draft Monday, August 6th and finished on Tuesday, September 4th. The season started on Thursday, September 6th.

This year the season starts on Thursday, September 4th. That means we'd have to start the draft August 4th.

We held a mock draft starting on July 23rd. We never finished it but that wasn't too important. Did we want to hold another Mock Draft? If so we'd probably want to start that either next week or the following week.
15sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 16:32
Assuming all of the managers return, then all will have experienced this method of draft alreay, which I think would do away with the need for a mock. Last season IIRC, we gathered in multiple 1st time managers for the league and the auction format was new to many. The mock, gave them an opportunity to see what does/doesnt work and how to participate.

Oh yea....I'm in as a player. :)
16 Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 16:39
I'm in again.
17 youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 17:03
I'm in as well
18wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 17:12
In please.
19The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 22:30
Unfortunately I will not be able to participate this year as I'm having to cut back on the number of leagues I'm in due to time constraints. Good luck going forward and hopefully I will be able to get back in sometime in the future.
20 DWetzel
      ID: 33337117
      Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 23:12
As stated above, I'm in.
21 Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 02:04
in
22 Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 23:32
I'm in...thanks to wiggs and Kyle for commishing.
23Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 23:45
Sent an e-mail to the 2 remaining managers, GolfFreak and Scarecrow to let them know to check in.

Wolfer, I'm going to send an e-mail to you to make sure I have your e-mail address.

As of right now we are in need of 1. Suggestions for a replacement are welcome.
24Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 00:19
Also I am assuming the e-mails you used in these posts are your correct e-mail and are the primary you would like to use for this league.

Which site would you all prefer in order of preference to use this year?

Fleaflicker- AOL switched fantasy sports there this year. We used AOL last year, but I personally don't know Fleaflicker. If you have first hand (or second hand) experience with this site please tell us how it was.

Yahoo- Has been used before in this league. I know everyone has used Yahoo for fantasy sports, it's the grandfather of fantasy sports. But Yahoo can't do divisions like we had last year. I also don't believe it'll allow you to set the playoffs.

ESPN- We can do divisions, we can do playoffs how I want to set them, there may have to be some scoring tweaks with the kicking and defense, but I believe we can overcome that.

Just rank them in order of what you would prefer. I'll post mine after everyone has voted so I don't sway any votes. I'll also break any ties if there is any.
25Scarecrow71
      ID: 11744120
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 08:12
I'm in!

Don't have a strong preference to site. Yahoo is easy to navigate, but I like the division flexibility. Never heard of Fleaflicker. By default I would vote for ESPN.

- Scarecrow
26GOlfFreak
      ID: 43303012
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 17:38
I'm in! Like Yahoo but would like to try ESPN
27Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 18:07
OK it's official. We only need 1 more for this league. Any suggestions?
28sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 19:19
Tree is pretty active in football and the like. I dunno if he has any interest, but might be worth asking him.
29GolfFreak
      ID: 43303012
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 22:58
I vote for Tree. If he trades me Béltre!!!
30DWetzel at work
      ID: 278201415
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 11:08
Preferences:

1. Yahoo (easy to use)
2. ESPN (probably more options)
3. Fleaflicker (just because I don't know it--I could be convinced though).
31Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 12:50
If one of you guys wanted to contact tree and ask him that'd be great. I'm going to be tough to get a hold of this weekend, but I should be around every now and then. If you could list your preferences then I could hopefully get the league set up and invites sent out next week sometime.
32wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 12:59
I am not going to make my preferences known until I check out Fleaflicker.
33sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 19:53
msg sent to Tree
34Tree
      ID: 206261119
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 20:32
i have to admit to never having done a football auction league. i did one baseball auction league, and i'm not sure i enjoyed it - in part, because i don't think i grasped the concept.

that being said, i'm interested. as ignorant as this sounds, can i get a bit more info on how an auction league works, and all that?

and GF, in which league would you like Beltre? ;o)
35sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 21:29
we've done this in the past Tree, on line here at rotoguru....each manager gets $200 and that is their ANNUAL salary cap. FAs arent free, so you cant go out and spend your whole $200 in the initial auction and manning of your roster. Injuries happen etc etc. You can almost certainly look back at past threads and see how it works for the most part, though I doubt anyone is against the idea of 2 or 3 day mock to get you somewhat acclimated.

Also, managers get 'fined', if they submit bids that would leave them violating their salary cap, and THAT can be deadly. You MUST staff a full 16 man (IIRC) roster and every player has a minimum salary of $1. So if you have 8 guys on your roster for ex, and have $60 left, then go out and submit bids on 4 guys that add upto $57...you just violated the cap and get fined $5. (8+4 =12 leaving 4 slots to fill but 60-57 =3 leaving with not enough money to pay them all)
36sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 21:31
early discussion thread from last year

might start with that one actually
37TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sat, Jul 12, 2008, 04:28
I was peeking in to your thread and saw the news about fleaflicker. I've used it for leagues the past two years and love it. I just looked and sure enough it transferred my aol leagues to fleaflicker. I already decided last season that I would never use aol again, so this is a great change. You guys should log in and check it out. Lots of flexibility in setting up unique scoring rules, the live scoring has worked well the past two years, and it's free.
38Tree
      ID: 860128
      Sat, Jul 12, 2008, 10:03
guys - if you're looking for me to make a decision today, it's not going to happen, and if that costs me a spot in the league, so be it.

i need to sit down and see what leagues i am in, so i don't over extend myself again, and i don't see that happening for a few more days (aka the baseball All Star Break...lol)
39wolfer
      ID: 24238210
      Sat, Jul 12, 2008, 21:57
I'm starting to warm up to fleaflicker myself.
40DWetzel
      ID: 33337117
      Sun, Jul 13, 2008, 15:50
After further review... I'm starting to like Fleaflicker as well. Move that to the top of my list.
41youngroman
      ID: 4665106
      Sun, Jul 13, 2008, 17:16
finally my vote:
1) Fleaflicker or ESPN, simply because of their options.
2) Yahoo
42Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 10:45
I agree with YR per post 41
43Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 11:44
Still waiting on word from Tree. I understand waiting to see what leagues your in. I had to do a quick survey of my leagues. I'm only in 3 this year!I am big on spreadsheets, basically everything I do is in Excel. So here's a spreadsheet of the votes so far. If you want to change yours let me know. If you havn't voted please do! Vote or die!
  Yahoo! ESPN Fleaflicker
GolfFreak 1 2 3
Scarecrow71 2 1 3
DWetzel 3 2 1
youngroman 3 2 1
Slowhand 3 2 1
wolfer
sarge33rd
Frick
wiggs
Jackhammers
Kyle
       
Total 12 9 9
44wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 11:50
Fleflicker
ESPN
Yahoo
45DWetzel at work
      ID: 278201415
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 11:50
Switch my Yahoo to 2 and ESPN to 3, and you have it!
46wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 11:59
yahoo 1
fleaflicker 2
espn 3

but i really dont care
47sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 13:58
Fleaflicker.
48Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 14:52
abstain. I haven't used Fleaflicker, but didn't it power the AOL game before? If so, I love the flexibility it had.

Regardless I don't have a preference. They all get the job done, this league, more than any other is decided before the season starts.
49Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 16:35
guys - i'm sorry. i can't do this league this season.

i totally forgot about RIFC, and since i won our AAA last season, i'm in the bigs this time, and i can't turn that level of competition down.

that's going to take me to my limit (actually, one team past it) for games i can play this season.

i appreciate the show of support, but i need to pass.

apologies to all, but again, thank you.
50Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 23:54
Completely understand that Tree. Who would turn it the big RIFC league down? That's like playing in 2 leagues itself. Good luck with that!

Anyone got anymore suggestions? Or if you're a stalker (I have a feeling we have a couple, since 28 people have viewed in the last 24 hours) and wanted to play and liked the format, please step up.

Also unless Jackhammers has a massive horror story about Fleaflicker we'll end up using that. I'll probably set it up by the end of the week, so keep an eye out for an e-mail inviting you. I'll send out an e-mail along with whatever is sent out from Fleaflicker, just in case your spam folder blocks unknown e-mail addresses.
51TB
      ID: 395122110
      Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 23:41
I'm a stalker, but don't want to play. I just miss football season. :)
52sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Wed, Jul 16, 2008, 00:10
But TB...I'm sure we'd all agree to allow you to bid the most for any Raiders. :)
53dwetzel on BB
      ID: 13429612
      Wed, Jul 16, 2008, 18:48
Saw a post on the goal line Blitz forum by someone looking for an auction league...do we want to try to get our 12th that way?
54sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Wed, Jul 16, 2008, 20:37
Frankly, I got no heartburn with that.
55Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 09:53
Dwetzel if you could get in contact with him and tell him to either shoot me an e-mail of post a way of contacting him over here that'd be great.

56DWetzel at work
      ID: 278201415
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 12:17
Can do.
57JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 12:22
Not sure how much time I will have, but if you can't fill the spot hit me up Kyle
58 weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 12:58
If there is still a spot open I would be interested.
59Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:06
The last spot is your's WK. Welcome to the league!
60weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:24
Nice.
I will take Brady for $200...Alex.
61Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:37
Do we count that as an illegal bid? If so then weykool starts with $195.
62Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:59
Jackhammers, the e-mail you provided is bouncing back to me. Please check to make sure it's correct.
63 Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 17:35
Also to set up the divisions I'll ask 2 of you guys to give me 2 sets of random numbers 1-12.

I'll alphabetize the Owners based on handles and then rearrange the owners based on these 2 sets of numbers. I'll then put arrange the divisions:

East
Team 1, Team 4, Team 7, Team 10

Central
Team 2, Team 5, Team 8, Team 11

West
Team 3, Team 6, Team 9, Team 12
64youngroman
      ID: 4665106
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 17:49
one set of numbers sent.

Kyle, I think the playoff weeks are wrong, should be weeks 15+16, we play each team in the division twice (6 games) and every other team once (8 games). that makes 14 regular season games, starting the playoffs in week 15.
65 TD_Machine
      ID: 216131717
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 18:15
Hi Guys!

I am interested in joining this league. I was looking for something like this for a while and DWetzel told me about it. If you guys are still looking for another member than you can count me in.
Thanks

P.S: Is there anywhere where I can see the settings and scoring. Thanks
66Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 11:28
I sent an e-mail to TD machine letting him know he got beat by about 4 hours by weykool.

Invites and e-mails have been sent out. Jackhammers, your e-mail is continuing to bounce back to me. Maybe you have another one I could use. Send me an e-mail with what you want to use, maybe that'll help.

I've received one set of numbers from YR, I need one more and I'll have the division alignment set. I can't change the name of the divisions, so 1=East, 2=Central, 3=West.
67DWetzel at work
      ID: 278201415
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 12:21
Second set (since I'm sure it doesn't mean anything to have it public):

8
6
7
5
3
10
9
11
2
12
1
4
68 Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 13:09
Alphabetized list:
DWetzel
Frick
GolfFreak
Jackhammers
Kyle
sarge33rd
Scarecrow71
Slowhand
weykool
wiggs
wolfer
youngroman

YR's Numbers (8, 9, 1, 3, 10, 5, 6, 11, 2, 4, 12, 7)
8- Slowhand
9- weykool
1- DWetzel
3- GolfFreak
10- wiggs
5- Kyle
6- sarge33rd
11- wolfer
2- Frick
4- Jackhammers
12- youngroman
7- Scarecrow71

dwetzel's Numbers (8, 6, 7, 5, 3, 10, 9, 11, 2, 12, 1, 4)
8- wolfer
6- Kyle
7- sarge33rd
5- wiggs
3- DWetzel
10- Jackhammers
9- Frick
11- Scarecrow71
2- weykool
12- youngroman
1- Slowhand
4- GolfFreak

Therefor the divisions are:
Division 1:
wolfer
wiggs*
Frick
youngroman

Divison 2:
Kyle*
DWetzel
Scarecrow71*
Slowhand

Division 3:
sarge33rd
Jackhammers
weykool
GolfFreak*

*=Playoff team from last year

I'm happy with how the playoff teams got equally spread out. Once everyone signs up I'll get it set up with these divisions. If you didn't receive an e-mail from me or the site let me know. I can try to get you the sign up information to you one way or another.
69sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 13:23
Owners havenbt been putting their teams into the above indicated divisions I see.

What do you want done now kyle?
70Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 13:46
Hey, I want an asterisk as a past champion!

71sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 14:03
and I want a Red Cross, denoting my teams standard position as the most in need of bandages, crutches, cast supplies, stretchers, etc etc. :)
72Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 14:33
RE 69: I'm able to reallign the divisions on the website. Won't be a problem.

RE 70-71: How's this
Division 1:
wolfer
wiggs*
Frick^~
youngroman

Divison 2:
Kyle*
DWetzel
Scarecrow71~*
Slowhand

Division 3:
sarge33rd+
Jackhammers
weykool
GolfFreak*

*- Playoff team from last year
~- Past Champions
+- Already has 3 players on IR
^- Complains too much ;)
73Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 14:35
Hey, why didn't Sarge get a ^ ?

Oh wait, I'm complaining again aren't I.

Oops, sorry about that. Sarge, who was the guy that you kicked out of the league 3-4 years ago? I need to go find that thread and relive the memories and laughs that caused.
74Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 14:37
When you find it post it here, I could use a laugh at work on a Friday.

I love working for the government, going out with private sectors for lunch and being the only one who has to pay (ie no expense account). Oh and I'm the one who has to order the Coke...
75sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 14:58
lmao Frick....Eugene IIRC. Cant recall what he resigned in as in an effort get back into the league again. First threatening to 'kick my ass', then whining that he was crippled and I was just picking on a crip. :)
76Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 15:18
Part 1
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=542&last=1123081037

Part 2
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=558&last=1123595638

77 Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 15:36
try it again Kyle. should be good
78Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 15:58
JH: Sent, no kickbacks! :)

Sarge: Yikes, if any of you pull that cr@p, I don't know if I'll be as patient with you :) I don't think there'll be any problems like that, since this league was fine last year.
79sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 16:34
ROFLMFAO AT 76!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh good times :)
80Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Sat, Jul 19, 2008, 20:27
Still waiting for Wiggs and Jackhammers. Once they sign up I'll be able to set up the schedule. It should be able to automatically do it from what I see, but I can't play with it until everyone logs in.

If you guys could double check all the rules and let me know yea or nea if they look good. It also looks like I'm going to have to process the bids for weekly bids myself. I don't see any option for it in the Commish Controls. Sarge you might be able check to see if there's an option that you had to change in last year's league. If not I'll set up an e-mail address that we can send our bids to and each Wednesday I'll process that.

Also are there any rules changes from last year? I have it set up identically from last years league (I believe) and we'll run the same bid process for FAs as last year (IE: Injury Priority, and only 1 pickup per week [injury priority is a FA pickup]) Was there anything that we wanted to change from last year? It seemed to be set up to near perfection, so I wouldn't say "We need to change Rule X".

Finally, starting the draft: I'm leaning towards starting a little earlier than last years. Like the 30th. If you guys want to start around the same year we could wait until August 4th. I will be able to be here the whole draft. No vacations planned, or able to be taken. If we start earlier I'll have to ask someone to take on Friday the 1st, as I'll be at Lollapalooza (whoo!) but other than that I'll be around. If you are going to be away at any point please let us know in advanced.
What is the league's preference for starting?

Wednesday July 30th or Monday August 4th?
81sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 00:35
either start date works fine for me.

One of the clear "pluses" to AOL lost year, was the sites ability to "blindly" process the weekly FA bidding scenarios. HUGE, H-U-G-E difference maker in smoothing out the process. (Did I say and make clear, that alone was of IMMENSE value to me as commish? lol)
82Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 01:10
OH yah Sarge, I know. I'm not looking forward to it, but it's something that I'll have to bite the bullet on. And it's only once a week, one transaction per team. :)
83dwetzel on BB
      ID: 13429612
      Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 19:00
Earlier start the better.
84wolfer
      ID: 3561209
      Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 22:20
Same here. Earlier the better.
85wiggs
      ID: 356191618
      Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 23:23
earlier the better for me as well- i will be away from august 23-30
86Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 12:33
Fleaflicker automatically generated the schedule after Wiggs joined (thanks for being last ;)) and it did it exactly how we would want it. You play your division in weeks 1-3 and 12-14 and you play the rest of the league in weeks 4-11. If you see a problem with your schedule, let me know.

Earlier seems to be the consensus so far... voice your opposition or miss out on voting!
87wiggs
      ID: 356191618
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 12:46
i was away all weekend- sorry for being last
88Scarecrow71
      ID: 11744120
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 15:51
Either date works for me.
89sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 16:42
cripes...about 10 days in Aug I'll sometimes be aorund and sometimes not. lol gonna be interesting to see what I can out together.
90Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 17:09
RE 87: Tongue in cheek good sir, we had plenty of time to get in the league.

RE 89: New Strategy: Bump bid Sarge so he will have to pay more for his players since he won't be around late. :)
91wiggs
      ID: 356191618
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 17:48
kyle- i know buddy- no problem
92sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Tue, Jul 22, 2008, 10:04
Sarges new strategy...let Kyle bump-bid and have a roster with 8 WRs, no RBs/QBs/TEs and watch him scramble trying to find $1-$5 players so he doesnt bust his salary cap.

:)
93Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Tue, Jul 22, 2008, 19:47
Earlier the better. I wont be around on the weekends much at all. I forget how we handled weekend bidding. I would prefer to take a break or at least a very long bid winning period
94DWetzel
      ID: 33337117
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 01:41
We took weekends off, if I recall correctly. Which I appreciated, both from a family standpoint and from a "take a breather to figure out where things were at" standpoint.
95sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 08:58
as I recall, bidding and the clock froze as of midnight eastern on Fri and started again at 08:00 Monday. I could be off a little but seems to me that s how we'd worked it in the past.
96Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 09:37
I know for sure that the clock stopped on Friday and started up Monday (oh how many weekends I worried over players) and I believe it was Midnight to 8 AM EST. YR I believe that'd be 6 am-2pm your time, correct? If the clock stopping at this time doesn't work we'll try to get something that works for everyone. Even if it's 11:15pm-7:45 am! ;)
97youngroman
      ID: 4665106
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 14:16
+6 hours for me (6am - 2pm). I should have less problems this year because during the draft I will watch plenty of Olympics on TV, even if it is 4am for me.

I did ok the last few years and I will do ok this year. I will have more problems with preparing for the draft because I have not started yet. at least for the first days of the Auction this should be not a huge problem because I only need to research the players that are on the table. and after next week I will be prepared. because of that I have no preference on when to start.

if I need to put someone on the table today it would be Brett Favre at $1, only to see if he still gets some love in this league.
98sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 14:18
lmao...pass (might be tempted to bid $2...but he'd have to sign with a team first...and NOT Miami either.)
99weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 15:03
So we started already with Farve?

A little advance warning would have been nice.
100sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 15:23
lol WK...no, we havent started. Take a look at last years bidding threads, and you'll see how it works.
101Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 16:45
We're starting next Wednesday WK. I'll send out an e-mail this weekend and give everyone a 24 hour until auction notice.

Sarge: Where did you pull the rankings for your first 12 on the board. If I remember correctly you did 1- 2nd rounder, 4- 3rd rounds, 4- 4th rounders, 3- 5th rounders. Should I do something like that, or should I ask everyone to e-mail me 2 names, a 1st choice and and 2nd choice. If your 1st choice is taken then I'll put your 2nd choice up. Which you guys want to do?
102Scarecrow71
      ID: 11744120
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 19:05
I like the way Sarge did it last year so would vote for that format for the initial offering of players.
103DWetzel
      ID: 33337117
      Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 23:19
I'm agree. I'd say pull a random mock draft, and mix and match semi-randomly (try to get a couple at each major position though, IMO).
104Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 08:26
I also like the "Sarge" approach. The timing of when players are put up for bid is important in an auction league.

There are mock drafts starting to pop up, pick 1 and post a player from each round.


I wonder if I'll blow all of my money on 2-3 players and be left bidding for scrubs and rejects like the last 3 years. Granted I've made the play-offs twice and one it all once.
105sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Thu, Jul 24, 2008, 14:53
what I did in the past, was pull from 3 or 4 different mock drafts. Then from ea ones 3rd rd I'd pull a total of 1/2 the names and then from either the 2nd or the 4th rds, pull the other half.

Mock Draft A 3rd rd yields 2 names
Mock Draft B 3rd rd yields 2 names
Mock Draft C 3rd rd yields 2 names

Mock Draft A 2nd rd yields 1 name
Mock Draft B 2nd rd yields 1 name
Mock Draft C 2nd rd yields 1 name

Mock Draft A 4th rd yields 1 name
Mock Draft B 4th rd yields 1 name
Mock Draft C 4th rd yields 1 name

or some random process VERY much along those lines.
106Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 15:38
An e-mail has been sent regarding the draft. We will start the draft on Wednesday at 8 am EST.
107Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 09:46
Just a reminder, the auction draft starts tomorrow at 8 am. I'll post the players who will be on the board a little later tonight, I have to find out who they will be. :)

Hope you all are ready, it should be fun as always!
108youngroman
      Donor
      ID: 02934823
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 10:36
not ready yet, but I checked if my information sources from last year are still there and already providing information for the upcoming season. I now need to sum up all that info into one giant excel. should be ready by Friday.
109Scarecrow71
      ID: 11744120
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 20:03
Looking forward to seeing how this years draft goes.
110Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 20:44
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