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Subject: Rotoguru Keeper 14, Year 2 Draft Thread
Posted by: leggestand
- Leader [451036518] Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 16:00
This thread should be used to discuss the Rotoguru Keeper 14, 2008 Draft. |
2 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 20:27
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Per the League Discussion, the following are the players that have been kept from 2007, in alphabetical order by first name and also by last name. Please use this to make sure when you draft that you are not taking a kept player. Alphabetical by First name | | Alphabetical by Last name | | Adrian Peterson | | Jared Allen | | Andre Johnson | | Derek Anderson | Anthony Gonzalez | | Marion Barber | Antoine Winfield | | Tom Brady | Barrett Ruud | | Drew Brees | Ben Roethlisberger | | Ronnie Brown | Bobby Engram | | Marc Bulger | Brandon Jacobs | | Nate Burleson | Braylon Edwards | | Plaxico Burress | Brian Westbrook | | Jason Campbell | Calvin Johnson | | Chris Chambers | Chad Johnson | | Marques Colston | Channing Crowder | | Channing Crowder | Chris Chambers | | Owen Daniels | Clinton Portis | | Donald Driver | David Harris | | Braylon Edwards | Derek Anderson | | Bobby Engram | Deuce McAllister | | Larry Fitzgerald | Devin Hester | | Anthony Gonzalez | Donald Driver | | Frank Gore | Drew Brees | | Earnest Graham | Earnest Graham | | Ryan Grant | Edgerrin James | | David Harris | EJ Henderson | | EJ Henderson | Frank Gore | | Devin Hester | Greg Jennings | | Santonio Holmes | Heath Miller | | Torry Holt | Jamal Lewis | | T.J. Houshmandzadeh | Jared Allen | | Steven Jackson | Jason Campbell | | Brandon Jacobs | Jason Witten | | Edgerrin James | Justin Smith | | Greg Jennings | Kellen Winslow | | Andre Johnson | LaDainian Tomlinson | | Calvin Johnson | Larry Fitzgerald | | Chad Johnson | Larry Johnson | | Larry Johnson | Laurence Maroney | | Thomas Jones | LenDale White | | Maurice Jones-Drew | Marc Bulger | | Paris Lenon | Marion Barber | | Jamal Lewis | Marques Colston | | Marshawn Lynch | Marshawn Lynch | | Peyton Manning | Matt Schaub | | Laurence Maroney | Maurice Jones-Drew | | Deuce McAllister | Michael Turner | | Willis McGahee | Nate Burleson | | Heath Miller | Owen Daniels | | Randy Moss | Paris Lenon | | Terrell Owens | Patrick Willis | | Willie Parker | Peyton Manning | | Adrian Peterson | Plaxico Burress | | Clinton Portis | Randy Moss | | Ben Roethlisberger | Reggie Wayne | | Tony Romo | Ronnie Brown | | Barrett Ruud | Roy Williams (WR) | | San Diego Chargers | Ryan Grant | | Matt Schaub | San Diego Chargers | | Seattle Seahawks | Santonio Holmes | | Justin Smith | Seattle Seahawks | | LaDainian Tomlinson | Selvin Young | | Michael Turner | Steven Jackson | | Reggie Wayne | T.J. Houshmandzadeh | | Wes Welker | Terrell Owens | | Brian Westbrook | Thomas Jones | | LenDale White | Tom Brady | | Roy Williams (WR) | Tony Romo | | Patrick Willis | Torry Holt | | Antoine Winfield | Wes Welker | | Kellen Winslow | Willie Parker | | Jason Witten | Willis McGahee | | Selvin Young |
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3 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 15:49
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I am going to have sporadic access over the weekend, and since it looks like MC will be starting the draft on an un-timed basis at some point this weekend, I am comfortable making my first pick on the forum and having MC put it in once he launches the draft. As I am sure this is a shock to no one, I will be taking:
1.01 Joseph Addai
The only other picks we have in the 1st round are:
1.02 for Boikin 1.03 for Hubble 1.07 for Doug 1.09 for Goatlocker
If boikin wants to make his pick, I am sure this is fine. I am also sure it's fine if he wants to wait until the draft has been launched.
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4 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 15:52
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I will also note that we only have 5 picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds as well:
2.01 Leggestand 2.06 Taxman 2.07 Doug 2.11 Guru 2.13 Athletics Guy
3.03 Hubble 3.04 Da Bomb 3.07 Doug (3 picks in 3 rounds!) 3.11 Guru 3.14 IAC
After that we begin having 9-14 picks per round.
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5 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 15:58
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I love seeing the different strategies being used in who was kept. Definitely adds a lot to the complexity of this league.
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6 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 16:02
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Same here. I think this is much better than "just naming your top 5 players" and doing a standard re-draft for the leftovers.
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7 | TB
ID: 395122110 Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 23:02
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I like it as well. Only at the last minute when I realized I wouldn't get an undrafted rookie from a team I am fanatical about, did I decide to keep Manning. I also considered Roy Williams getting tossed back to keep a couple 25th rounders but wasn't sure I would get improved value at that spot. It will be interesting to see who goes before that slot would have came up.
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8 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:05
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Ditto on watching the strategies. Should be a very interesting draft. And one other key is that most of us tend to THINK that we have a good idea of what others will do during the draft.
I only missed a few keepers. Of course, I marked what I thought were potential keepers for each team, so I had more than 5 marked.
Will be fun as always.
Cliff
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9 | leggestand
ID: 5993619 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 09:03
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I am looking at possibly trading my 2.01 pick (the 6th pick in the draft), depending on what transpires in the first five picks. I am looking for either (a) two pre 6th round picks - prefereably a 3/6 or a 4/5, or (b) a decent WR 2/3 plus a pre 5th round pick.
Send me an email if interested, and we can try and iron something out as the 2.01 pick approaches.
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10 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 12:31
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How was Addai not kept?
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11 | leggestand
ID: 11771120 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 12:44
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Addai was on my team before, but since I had the #1 pick, I knew I could keep someone else and just draft Addai...no sense in using him as a keeper if I have the #1 pick.
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12 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 12:48
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Advantage of the #1 pick in the first keeper year of this. In essence gave him 6 keepers.
And he worked it the way I would have.
Cliff
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13 | Hubble
ID: 55781712 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 13:14
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I'm experiencing really annoying internet connection issues... my ISP should come fix this today... In the mean time i'm not sure i'm receiving all my emails...
Is it possible to have all emails sent to both adresses?
etiennedesmeules@pretech.qc.ca (.ca works as well) etienned@pretech.qc.ca (.ca works as well)
I suppose some information were posts as regard kafenatid and stuff like that... wich i did not receive.
Sorry if i'm a bit of trouble this year :(
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14 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 13:34
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I haven't received anything about kafenatid, so I don't think you've missed anything there (yet).
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15 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 17:52
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I just put the draft request through on Kafenatid. When I get the information I will post it in here.
legge, thanks a lot for keeping things together while I was on vacation.
boikin and Hubble have yet to log into the Fanball website judging by the "last visited" time stamps. When you guys get a chance please be sure to log into Fanball so we can clear up any potential access problems now.
Let's finalize the IR rule. I think everyone who spoke up agreed that it would be for one player only per season. The first question is whether to allow an IR slot for an NFL player placed on actual NFL IR only, or to allow a manager in our league to declare a player on IR regardless of his NFL status. I mean, an 8 or 10 week injury for us is essentially an IR proposition.
Related to that, I also believe the player on IR should not count as an available extra keeper: we stay with max 5 keepers. If you want to keep the IR player the following year, he counts as one of your 5. Agreed?
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16 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:16
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RE MC: Sounds good to me.
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17 | leggestand
ID: 11771120 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:36
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Welcome back, MC. I hope your trip went well and it was no problem helping out while you were gone. I'll be keeping the spreadsheet and making updates after the draft, after the season, and when keepers are declared each year for myself, so, I am fine with keeping that role going forward.
As for the IR rule, it looks like there are two questions we need answered, as I think we have agreed on the following:
1. an IR spot is warrented 2. each team can have only one IR spot (you can have more than 1 IR players, but you cannot have 2-3 extra roster spots for them; only 1). 3. an IR kept player counts of one of your 5 keepers
The questions that I think need to be answered until we have a majority are:
1. (a) Can any player be placed on IR if he is injured for 6+ consecutive weeks, or, (b) is our league going to follow the NFL's IR rule (season ending injury)?
2. (a) Should the IR rule be restricted to picks made in rounds 1-5, or, (b) should the IR rule be available to any player picked at any time?
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18 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:36
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Re 15, Works for me also
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19 | leggestand
ID: 11771120 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:40
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My answers:
1. (b). I just think it's too hard to administer anyone who is injured and not on IR. Marvin Harrison comes to mind from last year, as he was day to day/week to week for 14 weeks. If we went with option (a), I think this type of scenario opens itself up to too many potential issues; i.e., if Harrison would of played in Week 14, could you play him if he was on your IR? Do you have to hold him on your bench for 6 games before you can transfer him to IR (at no point last season did it look like he was sitting out 6 consecutive games; until he did it). I just think we need to make the IR issue black and white so that everyone is on the same page and rules can't be "bent."
2. (a). All picks seems reasonable to me.
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20 | Athletics Guy
ID: 435462521 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:53
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1. B 2. A
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21 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 20:14
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1. B 2. B
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22 | Doug
ID: 53937413 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 20:16
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1 A 2 B
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24 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 20:37
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1. A 2. B
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25 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 21:03
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1. Allow any player listed on the NFL injury report as "out" for one week to be placed on IR by RG Keeper 14 manager.
2. B
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26 | leggestand
ID: 5993619 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 21:11
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In post 19, I meant to say (b) in my response for question 1, so, right now the tally is:
1. (a) = 3 (I think MC falls into that camp, and we can adjust this rule if the non-NFL IR version wins, as we'll need to do some final rule tweaking after the vote) (b) = 3
2. (a) = 1 (b) = 5
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27 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 21:17
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1.B - Agree with leggestand, A is too open of a rule. 2.B
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28 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 21:54
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1B 2B
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29 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:12
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1. B 2. B
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30 | Doug
ID: 53937413 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:31
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I was actually confused by legge's question. I thought we were saying if someone misses 6 games, they can go on IR even if they aren't officially on NFL IR (beacuse maybe they'll come back in RL playoffs, etc.)... which is useless as far as fantasy is concerned. And once on IR, player must stay there through end of fantasy season. Seems pretty black and white IMHO. *shrug*
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31 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:34
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1. B 2. B
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32 | TB
ID: 395122110 Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 23:30
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B and B for me. Clear cut and simple.
As an aside, I just registered at kafenatid for our draft, but cannot set a queue until the draft is started. I'm leaving tomorrow and bringing a cheat sheet with me, but might have to send my picks via email. I will find a cell phone to take and email that cell number out as well.
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33 | Hubble
ID: 55781712 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 08:13
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I'm gonna be at the office soon, so i should find the info to register for fanball in my inbox there. In the mean time, i confirm that my internet connection at home is fubar and makes it difficult for me right now. I'm working hard on fixing this for the draft. To be on the safe side, can some1 resend the info for fanball to my email?
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34 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 08:41
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1. A 2. B
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35 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:04
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It looks like the questions have passed a majority with:
1. a = 4 votes, b = 8 votes 2. a = 1 vote, b = 11 votes
So, the IR rule should look something like this:
IR: Each team may have up to one player placed on IR, and this designation will tie directly to the NFL's IR list. A player on IR may be kept the following season, but it (a) will count as one of the maximum keepers allowed per the rules (currently 5) and (b) will maintain its appropriate keeper draft round. If a team places a player on IR, that team now has an extra roster spot available. If a team has more than one player on the NFL's IR list, the team may keep the excess IR players on its roster, but it will take up bench positions.
I think that makes it clear, but if there are any holes, feel free to amend.
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36 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 15:24
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Hopefully everyone has signed up for kafenatid, as I think we need to get this draft started in the near future. I know that we technically have 5 less rounds to worry about, but all picks still need to be input into kafenatid, meaning not that much time is really saved.
As an aside, everyone will need to make sure that multiple designated pickers are identified, and that free form is available to make it easier to insert keepers when they are up.
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37 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 15:52
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In fact, it would be a big help if teams would set up their keeper(s) in a queue (with multiple DPs enabled) when those picks are pending.
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38 | Doug
ID: 15733617 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 16:15
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I have signed up for Yahoo! league, but looking through my email I don't see the info to register for the kafenatid draft.
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39 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 16:20
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Doug - MC sent the info to doug_rqfl@reprazent.com; is that email address good?
if not, send me an email with a good address, and I'll send over the info to you.
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40 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 18:34
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Doug, Taxman, and Beezer still need to sign up at Kafenatid. I can't set the draft order or open the draft until all 14 managers are signed up there.
The link is here if anyone still needs it.
I agree with leggestand's proposed IR language. I'll add it to the rules if no one notices anything glaringly wrong about it.
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41 | Doug
ID: 53937413 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:11
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Ugh... the email was filtering into an unintended folder. Sorry about that.
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42 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:36
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I'm unable to find the email to register - please resend to the address in the link.
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43 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:42
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Beezer, I sent it. Is this e-mail address the best one to contact you with this season?
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44 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:46
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Yes, that's my primary home email now.
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45 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 22:50
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Just went into Kafenatid and registered Taxman, so we should be good to go. He's on the road, but will be back in the office tomorrow.
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46 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 23:29
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I set the draft up and it's live as of now. leggestand's pick of J. Addai has been made. boikin will be on the clock (unless he picks) at noon ET Tuesday. Then onto Hubble and several keeper picks.
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47 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 09:13
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And we're off; thanks to MC for getting this started so quick after his vacation, as I am sure he had some other pressing items going on.
As the draft has commenced, just a reminder that everyone should do the following:
1. Designate multiple pickers to have access to your queue 2. Turn your queue to Available, at the very least when your keeper selections are coming up 3. Turn on Free Form to Available, or, put your keepers in your queue (in order). 4. Check this thread for players who have been kept, so, that we don't have duplicative picks that need fixed. 5. Add your players to your team in Fanball as you pick them.
We basically need to get through two rounds per day to complete the draft on time, which should be very doable, especially if how quickly people registered for kafenatid is any indication on how fast we'll draft.
Good luck to everyone and I'm looking forward to another fun year.
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48 | boikin
ID: 532592112 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 09:55
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i have made my pick.
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49 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 10:51
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I just got an email from Hubble and he is going to pick shortly. After his pick, it's:
1.04 Larry Johnson 1.05 Laurence Maroney 1.06 LT2
Then Doug is on the clock with an actual pick.
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50 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 11:58
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Remaining Round 1 picks:
1.07 Open (Doug) 1.08 MJD 1.09 Peyton Manning 1.10 Open (Goatlocker) 1.11 Gore 1.12 Willie Parker 1.13 Westbrook 1.14 Steven Jackson
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51 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 13:14
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Is anyone able to put in IAC's pick? I can't, but am ready to go with my next pick.
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52 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 13:45
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Nope and here is what IAC posted in RIFC:
FYI to those picking around me... most days during the week, I won't have access between 6AM-6PM. On the days where I can setup a queue, I will, but on days like today, where close to 20 picks will go off, I'll take that chance. (Posted Monday)
So.......I can only assume...
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53 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 14:15
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Looks like someone was able to get in for IAC. Round 2 is up:
2.02 McGahee 2.03 Jacobs 2.04 Edge 2.05 Chad Johnson 2.06 Open (Taxman) 2.07 Open (Doug) 2.08 Lynch 2.09 Portis 2.10 Ronnie Brown 2.11 Open (Guru) 2.12 Adrian Peterson 2.13 Open (Athletics Guy) 2.14 Wayne
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54 | Motley Crue
ID: 30051716 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:12
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I spoke to Taxman last night and he said he might not have internet for a few days. If he gets down to the last hour or so and still hasn't picked, I'll call him again.
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55 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:12
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Everybody take a supper break. Just spoke to Taxman and he is on the road driving home. He figures to be home inside 2 more hours and will select then after checking things out. He sends his apologies and indicates he will do better in the future.
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56 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:18
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Tax, I forwarded Legge's spreadsheet to you as per your request. I used both email addresses I have for you.
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58 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 20:01
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Thanks MC, GoatLocker, Challander for helping me not sink our 2nd season. I apologize for not keeping up and staying involved with the draft start-up and for not picking timely. Life again interfers with the more important fantasy sports.
Good news ..I am in town through Sunday noon (then off to Santa Fe thru Tues night)..bad news..I don't draft again for 32 picks which will fall @ the weekend when I'm mobile again....sighhhh
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59 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 20:29
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Hopefully I did that right; Doug and Guru had queued picks and I assigned them their respective players. Any mistakes, please let me know.
Also, if anyone knows they will not be here for any extended period of time, please announce it in here.
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60 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 07:47
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Guru now has admin rights at Kafenatid. I'll be at work until 5 ET today, where I cannot view either this site or Kafenatid. Please continue to queue up picks if possible and Guru or your DP's will assign you the player(s) you want. Thanks.
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61 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 08:12
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Queue made for Rounds 3 and 4. Please select a RB with my Round 3 pick and a non-RB with my Round 4 pick.
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62 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 09:46
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Talked to Hubble, he can't get into kafenatid, but he wants Jonathan Stewart, RB, CAR.
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63 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:32
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STOP
Jonathan Stewart was taken by Hubble (see post 62), and has instead been given to Da Bomb because of the missed pick.
This needs to be fixed before Doug picks.
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64 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:15
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I guess nobody reads this thread anymore!! Leggestand posted Hubble wanted Stewart when Hubble still had 8 minutes left on the clock and yet selection was not made for him and yet several picks are happening. It will stop with me as my que is now unavailable.
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65 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:21
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I'll try to fix kafenatid.
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66 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:25
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I'm going to start by processing a trade between Hubble and Da Bomb. Hubble gets Stweart, and Da Bomb gets Hubble's skipped pick. Let's see if that works.
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67 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:41
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OK, here's where we stand.
Hubble's pick was properly recorded in this forum prior to his time expiring. However, this was not noticed until after a DP for Da Bomb made the next pick, taking Stewart.
The next non-keeper pick was Mendenhall, by Doug.
I can see the remaining names in Da Bomb's current queue, but what I don't know is whether Mendenhall might have been ranked second (behind Stewart) before Doug made his pick. However, there is evidence to suggest that Mendenhall was indeed his second choice, since his instructions above were to take a RB in round three, and there are no more RBs in his queue. Thus, if he had two RBs in his queue (which he would have needed to ensure getting one), Mendenhall must have been the second one.
If so, then I need to trade Mendenhall from Doug to Da Bomb, and then let Doug repick. After Doug, the next three picks are all keepers, and my 3.11 is the next open pick.
I'm going to try contacting both Da Bomb (who may be unavailable) and also Fred at kafenatid to attempt to confirm that Mendenhall was indeed the second name on Da Bomb's queue.
Doug, you should probably be prepared to repick.
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68 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:46
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Looks good. Thanks, Guru.
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69 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 12:11
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Status update:
I emailed Fred at kafenatid to see if he can confirm that Mendenhall was in Da Bomb's queue. No response yet.
I emailed Da Bomb to ask him the same thing. No response yet.
I emailed Doug and told him to be prepared to repick, since it is highly likely that Mendenhall legitimately belongs to Da Bomb.
I turned the draft clock back on, just to make sure that no administrative functions (e.g., setting queues or DPs) are temporarily disabled. Since my pick is the next one due, I'll simply wait until I get a resolution before making my pick.
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70 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:17
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I heard from Fred at kafenatid. Unfortunately, he has no way to tell if a player was previously added to a queue. So we need to hear from Da Bomb.
Fortunately, Da Bomb has a current pick due in the RIFC (and no queue), so hopefully he'll be checking in shortly.
I also have not yet heard from Doug about a potential alternative pick.
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71 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:32
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Like you said, I think Da Bomb's pick HAS to be Mendenhall, based on his previous post of taking an RB (it sounded like no matter what he was getting an RB). But, it doesn't matter since we haven't heard from Doug on an alternate pick.
While we are at a standstill, though, Guru - can you process IAC's and my trade from earlier this year (IAC gets 7.01 and I get 19.14), if it hasn't been reflected already?
Thanks.
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72 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:56
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That trade was already processed.
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73 | Hubble
ID: 247321910 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:22
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Man i feel bad... stupid dumb ISP. Thanks to Leggestand for emailing me... I got it on my Iphone and made my pick from memory via email to him.
It seems like kafenatid incoming email are blocked on my iphone... I'll check that out.
I was slightly surprised with the clock settings and also the speedy progress of a keeper league where only 5 picks/round are made. Went to bed little before 9pm yesterday and had no net access this morning so i was in a twilight zone and had no idea. Thanks again to Leggestand for warning me. Now i realize this would not have happened with a queue. So i have only myself to blame. I'll try not to hold this draft anymore.
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74 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:55
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While we're waiting...
I noticed that our rosters are somewhat of a shambles at Fanball. Some people have their keepers only, some have been adding updated picks, but four teams still have their entire rosters left from last year.
We probably should have just had the commish clear all roster before starting (remember this next year!), and then each picked up our own keepers, as the process of dropping players is tedious (one at a time), as I recall. However, now that 10 of us have already dropped our non-keepers, we really need the other four to complete that exercise - and everyone else to make timely pickups as we go along.
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75 | boikin
ID: 532592112 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 15:50
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I am not sure how much computer access i will have in the evenings, i have set up a queue to atleast get me through my next pick.
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76 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:09
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Just got home. The top 2 RBs in my queue were Stewart and Mendenhall.
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77 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:13
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... as expected
I processed another trade, moving Mendenhall to Da Bomb in return for the skipped pick.
So we're just waiting for Doug to repick his third rounder and we're good to go.
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78 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:17
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Slowly but surely...I am pretty set with my 4.01 pick, which comes after Doug, Guru, and IAC, so, hopefully we can make those picks pretty quickly once Doug is able to check in.
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79 | boikin
ID: 532592112 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:23
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leggestand, just go ahead and use my queue for my pick.
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80 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:23
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Will do. Thanks boikin.
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81 | Doug
ID: 15733617 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:31
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Hey... just been checking homepage of Kaf to see if I was during long busy workdays... just saw this now. I submitted a 3rd round pick (although the page still shows me a text box as if I'm able to enter it, it shows up when you go to "view all picks")
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82 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:36
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OK, we're back on track. I'll alert Fred about the display glitch.
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83 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:54
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Hey Guys... just got in... will take me about 30 min to get caught up on where we are... so should be ready to pick by 6:30PM EST.
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84 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:10
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Hi, everyone. I take full responsibility for the blunder today--I didn't check in here before firing off Da Bomb's pick. Then I couldn't fix it or post in here because I had no access at work. Guru of course corrected all of the problems, so thanks to him for that.
Sorry for blowing half a day of our draft. Going forward I plan to be much more careful!
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85 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 19:01
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Hopefully, Doug will be able to make his pick, even though the input window still shows 3.03
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86 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:37
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STOP!! Donald Driver chosen by boiken is Da Bomb's keeper
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87 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:38
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Crap. So I just messed up again. Driver was listed on boikin's queue and I just took him.
I'm going to stop the draft for a few minutes and call him to see who he actually wants, and then we'll draft that player with Da Bomb's team and trade them.
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88 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:44
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I just spoke to boikin and he wants Bryant Johnson from SFO.
Hubble: please make your pick at your convenience but don't take Bryant Johnson. I'll make a trade between Da Bomb and boikin after you select.
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89 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:46
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Ugh, nevermind me. I see it's Randy Moss who Hubble gets in round 5.
As you were!
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90 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:47
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Uhhh, Da Bomb is supposed to draft Driver this round
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91 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:49
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Yeah, I messed that up. But it's all squared away now.
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92 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:52
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Ya, I just caught on what you are doing. I was riding down that Lost Highway for a bit there. :)
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93 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 23:37
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I'm not confused enough yet. I think we need to start all over and trade every other pick ;)
j/k
I think I have it figured out.
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94 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:29
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I have dropped my non-keepers at Fanball.
If someone coulsd contact TD and skeepers drop all but their keepers, I could add player i have drafted so far in this year's draft.
thanks
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95 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:31
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I'm here..I need to update my draft sheets...then I can pick
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96 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:05
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Taxman - Jennings is an illegal pick. Hubble has him as a keeper in round nine.
Please send me a replacement pick, or post it here. Meanwhile, I'm going to allow the draft to continue to move along.
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97 | boikin
ID: 532592112 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:10
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I took care of it.
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98 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:17
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Can you elaborate? I still see Jennings as Taxman's 6th rounder.
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99 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:27
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Oh, you were probably referring to post 94, not post 96.
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100 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:33
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As a courtesy to Taxman, I'm going to pause the draft until 2:00, to give him a chance to repick. Otherwise, there are a lot of qeued picks lined up, and we'll shoot through the rest of round 6 in no time.
Technically, there is no need to pause the draft, however. The usual handling of an invalid pick is to keep the draft moving and let the pick be corrected whenever. But since so many picks are lined up, I'd like to give Taxman a short window to repair his pick. Regardless, I'll restart the draft around 2pm and start firing off the queued picks.
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101 | TB
ID: 57191810 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:35
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I took a quick break at lunch to peek in and am not sure if we are at a stop. MC has me as a designated picker and has a player in his queue available, just wasn't sure if I should pick it and keep this train moving with the Jennings pick.
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102 | TB
ID: 57191810 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:38
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I should have refreshed before posting. =)
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103 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:45
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TB, shall I go ahead and pick from your queue when the draft reopens, or do you want to pull your own trigger?
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104 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:51
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Just got off the phone with Taxman. He is at the hospital visiting a friend, but should be home in 20 minutes or so, and will repick as soon as he gets in.
Cliff
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105 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:59
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Just got off the phone with Tax again.
Guru, go ahead and give him Chris Perry, RB, Cin for his 6.06 pick.
That way we can get restarted.
Or if you turn it back on, and can go in and make the pick for him.
Cliff
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106 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:00
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Thanks, Cliff. Can you also let Tax know that he is up in the RIFC AAA league draft?
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107 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:03
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Figures. I give Taxman a break, and then he steals the guy I was targeting...
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108 | TB
ID: 57191810 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:12
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I have to run, so please just use my queue when my picks come up.
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109 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:15
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leggestand, Yeh, he knows. I'm about to post there.
Cliff
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110 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:18
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IAC had someone else in his queue, but my spreadsheet shows Romo as his keeper for 6.14. So I took Romo.
Let me know ASAP if I'm missing something.
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111 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:19
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Ah, I see. He also had pick 7.01 via trade, and that's what the queued player was for.
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112 | Hubble
ID: 247321910 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 15:07
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Man, this draft is definitly to fast for me...
I won,t be able to pick before at least an hour...
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113 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:38
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I really like our keeper system, but it sure makes this a crazy draft for analytical purposes.
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114 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 18:12
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If Kafenatid were to upgrade to allow us to slot picks in appropriate spots before the draft, that would make this so much easier. It's been tough as it is.
Please remain vigilant and check the list of keepers before placing a guy on your queue or pulling the trigger to draft him! If you pick a kept player and no one notices, you will be the one who suffers when you lose the player and wind up making up the pick in round 24.
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115 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 20:56
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I know I won't have another pick till 9.14, but just wanted to mention that I should be on the road for a bit (funeral), and my internet will be spotty for the next few days. I apologize in advance for any potential slowing of the draft... I'll do my best to set queues when i get the chance.
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116 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 00:30
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Adam Jones is the former Pacman Jones.
I will be "out of pocket" during the day for the next 2 days. Guru is going to attempt to contact me via friend's cell phone to get my draft selections.
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117 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:03
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For the record, we're averaging just a little over 40 minutes per pick in this draft so far. That's exceptional - although probably aided by the significant number of keeper picks that have generally been added with minimal delay. On the other hand, we did have a few snafus that caused delays, so the keeper factor giveth and taketh away at times.
By comparison, an efficient Invitational league draft moves along at approx one hour per pick. So 40 min/pick is blazing. At this pace, we'll finish in another week.
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118 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 14:36
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Note to Challenger's designated pickers:
He asked me to try calling him today before making any picks, in case he had any second thoughts.
While I was just on the phone with him, I see that leggestand took the top name from his queue. Fortunately, that's what Challenger decided to do - although for a few minutes, he was leaning toward a different route.
So - no harm, no foul this time. But for today and tomorrow, please allow me to make the picks for Challenger, so that I have a chance to give him a phone call in advance.
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119 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 14:52
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Sounds good. I always check this thread before making a pick from someone's queue, but I wasn't sure how to read post 116 (in regards to when a queue was available), so, I just made the selection. I am glad that's who he wanted.
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120 | Hubble
ID: 55781712 Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 17:16
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Just made my queue unavalaible... i'm having second thoughts....
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121 | I_A_C
ID: 54722239 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 11:55
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queue set for my 11th pick.
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122 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 12:07
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Motley - you apparently didn't see my message in [118] regarding Challenger. I had asked that I be given a chance to call him for any last minute thoughts before making his pick (both yesterday and today).
In any event, I just tried to reach him by phone, but was not immediately available. Given that a LB makes sense for his team, I suggest we simply move ahead with the queued pick that you already made. However, if we get to his 12th round pick today, please let me handle it - whether there is anyone in his queue or not.
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123 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 12:53
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Totally my bad. I had read that yesterday and it slipped my mind since then. I'll be sure to leave his picks alone from now on. Sorry for the mistake.
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124 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 13:50
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Taxman has someone other than Matt Schaub, his designated keeper, at the top of his queue.
We need to leave him on the clock until he shows up to change his queue.
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125 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 14:19
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Well, now I'm not exactly sure what to do. Taxman was supposed to get Matt Schaub in the 12th round. Instead he wound up with Gary Brackett.
I stopped the draft. Should I just open back up with the understanding that Gary Bracket is still available?
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126 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 14:25
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OK, here's what we'll do. If someone decides to take Gary Brackett from here out, you'll need to choose Matt Schaub and then we'll just trade the two players between Taxman's team and your team. Unless Taxman takes him later.
Please be sure that if we're coming up on one of your keepers that he is on your queue (preferably at the top) and that you have the whole queue available for your DP's to pick from.
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127 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 14:45
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I just looked at the keeper x-cell and see that I was to have taken Schaub. And you are right..I did not Schaub on my Queue. I went to sleep because someone else had been entering the keepers earlier in the draft.
that is my last keeper..but you have the right answer..wish I'd thought of it (or seen it if earlier posted). Sorry
Tomorrow I am out of contact most of day before catching late afternoon flight to Albuquerque for a few days. Cliff (Goatlocker) has been kind enough to help me out as needed. I have no more keepers, thus I will try and leave a lengthy queue for him.
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128 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 14:52
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Unfortunately, if anyone had Brackett in their queue before Taxman took him, he will have disappeared from the queue. So we should probably avoid making any queued picks for awhile.
MC - you can simply go in and change Taxman's pick from Brackett to Schaub. But that still won't "repair" any queues that might have previously had Brackett in them.
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129 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:08
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OK, I made the change to Schaub. It's no big deal, Tax. I suppose Brackett will be coming up in the near future, but we have no choice but to proceed with things the way they are now.
Only a few people have available queues. I think by the beginning of round 13, we'll be safe to start picking from queues again. As Guru stated, though, we should proceed carefully with the remaining picks this round and ensure people are getting their top available player.
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130 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:33
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Crap, I just took TBs top player from his queue. Never look beyond that. Not sure then what we want to do.
Cliff
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131 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:53
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Just to avoid digging a deeper hole, I suggest the following:
My pick is next. Frankly, I'm not yet even sure what I'm doing with this next pick.
Challenger's pick follows mine. I was unable to reach him quickly this morning, and with the current Brackett situation, we really should not make his pick without giving him a chance to react. I might be able to reach him now, but with the current uncertainty regarding TB's pick, I'd rather wait.
Also, do we know if Doug had any interest in Brackett? I doubt it, given his actual pick, but you never know.
Overall, we are moving along very fast, with an expected completion on Aug 28 at this pace. Thus, I don't think we need to feel pressed to push the tempo.
Challenger should be home tonight - he thought by 7pm CT - so let's just wait for him to return and sort it out. To facilitate that, I'm going to delay my current pick for awhile. Hopefully in the meantime, we get the word from TB as to whether he had Brackett in his queue.
Sound like a plan?
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132 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:55
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MC - just let the clock tick. I'll definitely pick with 6 hours - but I'm in the process of waiting, thinking about my next pick, and installing a new faucet in my daughter's bathroom (which is maddening enough).
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133 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 16:34
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TB has 3 LB's already and I doubt he would have had Brackett at the top of his list.
If you want to wait, Guru, that's fine with me. The more people that can check in here the better.
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134 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 17:42
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I did just talk to Challenger, and he said that Brackett was in his queue, but didn't remember how deep.
I told him I was going to delay my pick so that he could make his next pick for himself tonight.
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135 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 19:52
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I'm here and have spoken to Guru and we will get this going again. Uhh, I'll make my pick.
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136 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 19:53
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I will need to catch my up with the past 2 rounds first
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137 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 19:53
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I finally sat down to figure out what my pick should be. Since I had a keeper pick in round 12, it had been 2 rounds since I last had to think about it, so I essentially decided to wait until the time came.
Once I figured out where I stood, it looked like LB was my biggest need (I only had one so far), and when I looked at my rankings, guess who appeard on top: Gary Brackett! LOL
So I figured it was karma.
Challenger just called me to say he was home, so I decided to take Brackett and let the draft proceed. Challenger should be making his own pick shortly.
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138 | TB
ID: 395122110 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 00:15
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Brackett was not at the top of my queue. He was before I decided to put Jax above him last round and then go WR this round. I think he was great value this round.
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139 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 08:53
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I left a short queue for my 13th round pick. If is it depleted by that time, I'll be back shortly after noon (ET).
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140 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 12:53
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Sorry for the delay all. Give me a few minutes and I'll pick. Just need to look at what is up.
Cliff
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141 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 14:51
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If my queue goes dead..Cliff (goatlocker) has my cell number and he has/can get access to my kafenatid account to post a pick.
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142 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 18:26
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Does anyone have a way to contact IAC? He's down to his last hour on the timer and I hate to skip him at this point. Everyone's been pretty conscientious about picking on time, especially him.
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143 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 18:45
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He's also on the clock in the RIFC.
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144 | TB
ID: 395122110 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 18:53
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Hope he logs on soon or the next guys are ready to make their picks so we can keep this thing rolling along. I hate to see anyone get skipped almost as much as I hate to see the full clock used, but I won't start getting worried until it makes it back to him at the end of the 14th without him making up his pick.
Fun fact: Counting all the keepers*, we've seen 24 QB's, 52 RB's, 57 WR's, 12 TE's, 6 DL's, 7 DB's, 29 LB's, and 12 DST's taken off the board up to this point.
*This includes all keepers even those not "selected" yet via kafenatid.
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145 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 20:10
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I left a 3 player queue for my pick. Have a fast draft in an hour so I probably won't check back in until the morning.
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146 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 09:48
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Just butting this thread so it rises above the pre-draft thread.
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147 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:11
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Dejavu all over again - Just butting this thread so it rises above the pre-draft thread.
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148 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 13:55
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I left a short queue for round 15, with several people as DP.
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149 | Athletics Guy
ID: 3744221 Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 15:29
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I apologize for the holdup guys.
Won't happen again...
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150 | Doug
ID: 15733617 Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 23:44
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Hey guys, was a long day, really sorry I wasn't able to check in sooner.
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151 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 07:36
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I'm headed back to work all day today so be sure to set up others as designated pickers if you haven't already.
The Kafenatid software gives us an estimated completion date of 30 August at 9:45 PM. We're doing fine with the draft time. The average pick is still right around 50 minutes. We still have 17 keepers to "draft" so please double check those names before you pull the trigger. Thanks!
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152 | GoatLocker
ID: 568552610 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:47
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I'll be in a meeting all day. My queue is loaded and ready to go. And Available. Should be able to check in at lunch.
Cliff
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153 | Hubble
ID: 47782516 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:59
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I spoke with IAC... he said he left a Q... I will try to log in for him and make his pick
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154 | Hubble
ID: 47782516 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 13:27
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Ok.. finnaly made the pick for IAC, his name on his Q was a Channing Crowder who was a keeper if i'm not mistaken. Then had to call him again to figure out next pick... Sorry it was long i'm at work.
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155 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 14:10
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boikin's queue is set to pick, and it shows Seahawks Defense, which is his keeper, albeit in Round 18. So, I am taking the 2nd guy on his queue.
Please make sure that no one takes Seattle for him next round either.
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156 | boikin
ID: 532592112 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 14:40
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oh thanks leggestand, i thought it was 16th round pick ill start working on my queue then.
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157 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:36
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Just checked my Queue. Should be good to go until I'm done with the meeting for the day. If not, will pick as soon as I can.
Cliff
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158 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:54
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Just picked for IAC. legge, you're up if you're still around. If not I can pick from your queue.
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159 | TB
ID: 395122110 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 18:00
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I was just refilling my queue and decided to toss Freddie Keiaho in there. It's been pretty tough with my queue getting emptied a lot lately, but when you can't even click to add a guy to your list before he gets taken...sheesh.
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160 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 18:25
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Hey TB... just noticed that I couldn't add David Thornton to my roster cause you still had him rostered. Do you mind clearing your team? thx
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161 | TB
ID: 395122110 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 19:48
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I can't get fanball to load. If you guys are able to get in, give me the link you are using.
Da Bomb is up and according to the keeper list his pick should be EJ Henderson.
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162 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 19:51
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I picked him 20 minutes ago
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163 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 20:10
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RE 161
This is the link that I use.
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164 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 22:44
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Well, I'm trying to get caught up and pick up all of my draft choices. Have all but one. Umenyiora is not showing up. I'm guessing they pulled him because of the injury. MC, tell me what you want to do. Easiest is probably to leave it blank and then when you turn things on, I'll replace him.
Cliff
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165 | TB
ID: 395122110 Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 23:29
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I still can't get fanball to load, but if you guys are having no problems it must be something on my end.
DB - I was slow to post that while farting around trying to get in to fanball. As soon as I gave up trying to get to fanball and posted, I saw you picked.
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166 | TB
ID: 395122110 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 00:32
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I have tried everything I know to get fanball to load, including cleaning out all my temp and cache, getting to the site from the ip address, doing a ipconfig dnsflush, and rebooting. I ping fanball and it says it's working fine. I'm kinda lost why it won't load for me.
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167 | TB
ID: 395122110 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 01:24
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Three posts in a row for me...woohoo.
I finally got fanball to load and dropped all my old players (to include Umenyiora, Cliff) and added all the ones I've drafted. Sorry I didn't do this earlier.
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168 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 07:29
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GL, I put Umenyiora on your team for you. : )
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169 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 09:26
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No wonder I couldn't find him. OK, will be my first drop anyway :)
Queue is loaded. Will be in a meeting again all day. Will try to check at lunch.
Cliff
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170 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 09:40
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Terrell Suggs
Ok guys, I have been looking at Suggs as a DL but in remembering the Ware issue of the 1st RIFC, I looked up his position listing on Fanball & Yahoo (where KKB pulls his player list IIRC) and they show DL. Then I checked the Ravens website and there he is listed as outside linebacker.
Ruling please? If the decision is LB, MC can you send in a request for a change? (Now watch someone else draft him instead of me.) ;>)
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171 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 16:49
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RE 170: Rule is... you use the player at the position that the site we use (fanball) lists him at. (When you pick him up) Ravens tried to franchise him as an LB, that's why he's listed on their site like that.
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172 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 07:31
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After the draft is over, I'll talk more about requesting position changes at Fanball (it's basically futile unless there's a lot of corroboration among many different leagues). Ultimately, as a practical matter, I don't want to get started administering players at positions they're not listed at. They changed Devin Hester to a WR. That seems to be an exception.
From a strategic standpoint, Challenger, wouldn't you want a LB that is listed as a DL, rather than a DL listed as an LB? With 3 Flex IDP spots, it shouldn't much matter, should it?
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173 | TB
ID: 20782117 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 09:33
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My keeper sheet shows that Hubble should have selected Justin Smith at 20.03 and not Josh Scobee.
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174 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 10:16
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Son of a gun. I botched that.
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175 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 10:18
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Also, Doug has no picks left and either Selvin Young, Channing Crowder, David Harris, or Bobby Engram should be taken in Round 20, with Burleson going in Round 21, and then the remaining three guys going in any order in rounds 22-24.
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176 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 10:53
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Just a heads up...
Hubble's pick has been corrected. However, if anyone had Scobee in their queue, it was erased when the Hubble selection of Scobee was made. Changing that pick does not restore Scobee to any impacted queues.
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177 | TB
ID: 20782117 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 15:26
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I picked Jyles Tucker for MC earlier and just want to admit that I never heard of the guy before. I had to look him up just to figure out what position he played.
Should we be concerned with this warning at the top of the game site: Welcome to 2008 Fanball Commissioner NFL. CLICK HERE to renew your league and get complete access from now until the end of the 2008 NFL season by Friday, August, 29. IMPORTANT: if your league is not paid for by August 29, your access will be disabled until payment is received.
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178 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 15:51
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I can tell you anything you want to know about Jyles Tucker.
OK All, My queue is reloaded, but please only use it for Round 21. I've got a late meeting with my boss from 4-7 tonite. Will check as soon as I get home to see if it is back to me.
Cliff
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179 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 17:07
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FYI - I've been leaving queues, but only had 1 designated person picked I guess... so I went and added 3 more just to be sure it moves along more smoothly.
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180 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 18:30
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Should we be concerned with this warning at the top of the game site:
I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. You have an excellent Commish who will make it go away.
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181 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 22:45
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OK all, I'm home and will turn my queue off.
Cliff
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182 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 07:44
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I just picked, but if I come up again before about 5 ET, I won't be around. So I left a free form queue including Bulger, my 24th rounder (in case we make it that far). Bulger should only be picked if it's round 24. No earlier, please. Thanks, guys.
We have rocketed through this draft. Imagine next year if the expected upgrades to Kafenatid are made and we can insert all of the keepers beforehand. Great bunch of drafters. Thanks again.
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183 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 08:35
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Just turned my queue back on, but please only use it for the 22nd round only. Need to stop and see my boss this morning before I head to my office. Will recheck things as soon as I get in.
Cliff
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184 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 09:00
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OK, that was quick. Queue is reset and can now be used for Round 23. I should be around, but just in case I'm not, don't want to hold things up. Will turn it off when I get to the office.
Cliff
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186 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 11:20
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Taxman - Da Bomb cleaned out his roster back on 8/17. Not sure what you're looking at.
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187 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 12:40
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OK, I'm at work. Turned my queue back off.
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188 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 14:15
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Guru/DaBomb..sorry..turns out my daughter decided to help me with out telling me and replaced my "actually drafted" with my "I want to draft" sheets
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189 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 16:14
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Headed home shortly, will check where we are at when I get there.
Cliff
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190 | TB
ID: 20782117 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 17:02
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All I have left is my 24th round pick, Duece, who is loaded in my queue with everyone listed as a DP. I've already picked up all my players and set my week one line-up.
Guru and Legge, you are both getting crushed week one. =)
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191 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 17:10
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After everyone gets their rosters pulled together, I'm going to shut off the ability to make transactions. There will be a Week 1 Claim process on Wednesday. The priority order will be the reverse of the draft, per the rules.
I haven't looked at the scheduling for the league yet, but it seems the easiest thing to do is to use last year's schedule again. I'll look into that and confirm that what is posted at the site now is accurate.
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192 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 18:48
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Ummm... you guys drafted 2 Kickers for me? Any way I can get my last pick back? I guess I should have mentioned not to double up on that position... figured it was obvious.
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193 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 19:25
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Yeh, I need a do over for Osi Umenyiora ;) You answered my question though. Will run Weds.
Roger that.
Cliff
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194 | Hubble
ID: 55781712 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 19:54
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I entered my crew in fanball finally... ready to kick butt!
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195 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 20:44
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IAC, I will replace Longwell with another player if you post who you want in here.
Don't forget to add Ryan Grant to your queue as well.
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196 | Athletics Guy
ID: 3744221 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:11
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Little help here, I want to take Shaun Alexander with my 24th round pick, but kafenatid won't let me do it.
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197 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:34
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Queue Set for Grant... and if you can substitute Longwell for Charles Tillman, DB, CHI. Thx.
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198 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:49
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I_A_C, I made the change.
AG, Shaun Alexander isn't listed in Kafenatid, but he is listed in Fanball. Since you asked for him here, we can count that as your official pick and we'll just fill the draft spot at Kafenatid with Jeremy Zuttah from Tampa. He's at the bottom of the player list. Just be sure to pick up SA in Fanball.
And with that plus Ryan Grant, we're done.
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199 | Hubble
ID: 55781712 Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 09:34
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Hum no posts in 3 days... i dunno about you all, but this draft exausted me. Good thing i only had one this year. This was ridiculously fast draft. We doing any recap?
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200 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 10:46
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That's not something I intended. I know most of you guys are writing pick rationales and recaps for the RIFC leagues, so I certainly don't want to overtax you.
The draft was very good considering the limitations we faced. Everyone is to be commended for sticking around as much as possible and setting queues. I know this is a busy time of year for a lot of people, and that makes our quick pace even more impressive.
Be ready for a claim period this Wednesday. Fanball is still set up to allow free agent claims, but I think that will change by tomorrow morning.
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201 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317 Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 18:22
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RE 199: Don't worry about the recap... worry about who your up against in week 1. hehehe
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202 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4881431 Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 14:36
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I thought I had the #2 Waiver ranking (based on draft order), but it says I'm #5 when I make a claim request. Maybe I'm missing something.
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203 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 14:38
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Yep, you're missing something.
The reverse draft order was only for preseason (post-draft) claims.
For the first six weeks of the season, the priorities reset weekly based on the reverse of the standings.
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204 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4881431 Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 14:45
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Oops, I forgot all about that. It's been like a year since I've done this! ;)
Thanks for the explanation.
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205 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 14:57
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Poor Goatlocker. He lost both of his games by a total of 2.16 points.
As for my squad, I am going from worst to first! Week 1 confidence!
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206 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 23:51
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MC,
Have you been following the Suggs issue over in the RIFC forum? Uhhh, he's now listed as LB....................
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207 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 07:38
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Hadn't been following that, but I suppose the fairest thing to do is to what Guru is going to do in the RIFC.
Any comments on the decision, go ahead and e-mail me. You'll be able to use Suggs in the position you drafted him in, Challenger.
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208 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 22:29
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Yeh, and if I'd have played Forte, I'd have won both by a lot. Don't even want to think about it.
It's still early.
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209 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 08:34
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Since we generally adhere to RIFC rules when practicable, I've changed the settings at Fanball to allow Challenger to use Terrell Suggs as a DL. Since there's no setting for that specific circumstance, I have instead lifted the starting lineup minimum requirement for DL's (it's now 0) and increased the maximum for LB's to 5. That will allow Challenger to use Suggs despite Suggs being listed as a LB. It will also allow the other 13 of us to start too many LB's and not give you an error. So I'm going to have to review rosters before game time each week and ensure no one has an invalid lineup. The only one with an exemption is Challenger, so please be sure to keep starting a DL, LB, DB, and three flex IDP's. I don't want to have to make roster moves for someone, but if they have an invalid lineup and I can't get in touch with them, I will do it.
If Challenger ever drops Suggs, Suggs will revert to the position he is listed as for any other manager (or even Challenger) who might pick him up.
Also, I haven't seen any other players on our rosters change positions, but if they have you will need to let me know so that we can allow this rule to be applied to them as well.
Athletics Guy has placed Tom Brady on IR. As a reminder, please be sure to post in here or at a minimum e-mail me to let me know if you decide to IR someone. Because of the way the IR setting works on Fanball, I want to be sure everyone gets the word.
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210 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 13:28
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I picked up Nate Burleson and added him to the IR.
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211 | Challenger Sustainer
ID: 481126818 Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 18:49
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From Rotoworld.com
Sunday's scheduled game between the Texans and Ravens has been postponed until November 9. The Ravens and Texans will take their bye this week. According to profootballtalk.com, the Texans were unwilling to play the game in any place but Houston.
That seems fair, but the Bengals are now also affected by the situation. They'll visit the Texans on October 26 instead of taking their bye, which has been moved to November 9.
Funny, I was here thinking I had no Ravens/Texans except for the McClain who I p/u'd this week as a bk/up, then I checked my starters just for safety sake and lo & behold there this Suggs character!
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212 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Sep 18, 2008, 20:37
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boikin and I made a trade today. From the time of this post, there'll be a 24 hour review period for protests. If I get 3 or more protests, I'll turn over the debate to leggestand or TB to retain impartiallity.
Here's the trade:
boikin gets QB Marc Bulger RB Marshawn Lynch WR Devery Henderson
MC gets QB Phillip Rivers RB Ahman Green WR Marvin Harrison
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213 | TB
ID: 395122110 Fri, Sep 19, 2008, 02:33
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Nobody is going to argue that trade. I'd rather be on the receiving end of Marshawn Lynch, but it works out great for both teams and is about as fair a trade as I've seen.
Why are we using the draft thread again?
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214 | leggestand
ID: 08501021 Fri, Sep 19, 2008, 05:57
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Agreed. Pretty even trade.
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215 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Sat, Sep 20, 2008, 19:44
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Ditto, Ditto on even.
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216 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 21:09
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Mendenhall is available. Possibly for just a pick upgrade in next year's draft.
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217 | TB
ID: 395122110 Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 00:18
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My teams sucks and I completely fail at fantasy football. I'm going to blame Al Davis. My passion for fantasy football continues to dwindle each season as the Raiders continue to suck. I am open to any kind of trade offers that can help my team be more competitive.
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218 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 18:31
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I like Lance Moore; I picked him last year but there were too many guys in front of him on the depth chart. Now that he's getting a chance he's showing he can play well in the league. That was a decent pickup, TB.
I actually have 2 Raiders this year myself, but mine are doing pretty well so I can't be too bummed out.
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219 | TB
ID: 395122110 Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 00:19
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I have to be honest, my passion for fantasy sports is gone. A decade ago I would have spent hours every night doing research, looking up stats, posting in the forum. These days I have a hard time putting 30 minutes into my team a week. This is my last season playing any fantasy sports. I will need to be replaced after this season.
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220 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sun, Oct 05, 2008, 12:10
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Attention leggestand and Taxman: you guys both have players on a bye in your starting lineups. If you can't get to your teams for some reason, contact me or at least post in here if possible to let me know if you would like me to make any changes to your lineups. 5-minutes-prior-to-gametime rules are in effect, of course.
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221 | leggestand Leader
ID: 451036518 Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 09:00
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Arg...I could of sworn I set my lineup before I left to go out of town this weekend, and it looks like I may have given myself two losses because I didn't. The same thing happened in the RIFC, so, I don't know if I dreamt that I made changes, or if I forgot to hit submit. It doesn't help either when you go out of town and don't have any internet service. I didn't know places like that existed anymore.
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222 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 13:01
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I added Rashard Mendenhall to my team and placed him on IR.
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223 | TB
ID: 395122110 Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 21:58
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Who did you drop on to waivers to sign him? I don't see any pick-up actions since you picked up Mendenhall but do see 24 other players on your roster, which would mean you would have had to have 25 players on your team before putting him on IR.
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224 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 07:37
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The system allows pickup of a player directly to IR. On the "Player Adds/Drops" Page, there is a pulldown menu that allows you to select whether the Free Agent goes to your bench or IR.
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225 | Mötley Crüe Dude
ID: 439372011 Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 12:40
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Doug, you have a bye week LB starting as of about 12:40 ET.
As a reminder, if anyone wants to leave contact information on the website (cell phone) that would be a great way for me to get ahold of you and inform you in person if you have a deficient starting lineup. Right now only GoatLocker and Taxman have numbers listed at the website.
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226 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 16:54
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[222] I know my comment is late, but I wasn't paying attention.
I'm sure that MC's pickup of Mendenhall was within the scope of our rules, but it seems contrary to the purpose and spirit. I'd like to suggest for next year that no team should be able to pick up a player who is already on IR and immediately stash him there. In fact, I'd prefer to see a rule that if you pick up a player who is already on the IR, you may not put him on your IR.
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227 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 279253113 Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 21:12
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My opinion is that the IR spot is OK for use whenever you have a player on your roster who is on IR. I don't think it should be limited to players you had on your roster when they were designated IR by their NFL teams.
We can certainly put this to a vote. In the case of Mendenhall, Da Bomb was going to have to drop someone, because he had two players on NFL IR. Unless we plan to expand the number of IR slots on each team, I don't see a way to help out managers with that kind of misfortune.
Managers who don't lose anyone to IR during the course of the year should be able to derive some benefit from the IR rule other than a potential IR spot. Otherwise, aren't they being penalized for not experiencing injuries?
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228 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 02:00
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It is a tricky situation. I picked up Burleson when he was dropped and put him on my IR. Then Mendenhall got placed on the IR and I chose to drop him as I feel Burleson has a lot more value as a potential keeper taking up my last round pick than Mendenhall who would have cost me a 3rd. I had no doubt that someone would then pick him up and have the option of keeping him as a last round pick.
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