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0 Subject: Gurupie 24 2008 Supplemental Draft Discussion

Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:01

Please use this thread for discussion during the draft.

Please refrain from discussing yet undrafted players.

Supplemental Draft

Preseason Discussion
1Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:03
Ahh, this thread's up - I'll repost my message from the football forum:

Is someone available to take a queue? I pick 5th and have to head to back to school night here for a couple of hours.
2 Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:20
Shoot me over your queue and i'll post your pick if it gets to you...
3Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:25
Let's go fast. I pick #4 and have no 2nd round pick so I can go to sleep for a coupla dayz.

Best O' Luck, All!

Toral
4Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:35
decisions decisions... :)
5Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:37
Well...how 'bout starting with one?
7Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 18:57
Called AF...he is mulling over which guy he wants, and will pick within an hour.

Toral
10Action Figure
      ID: 1471946
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 19:38
Done
11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 20:54
I corrected an error on mjd's cbs keepers as it didnt match his official one in the thread.
12StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 21:01
Please pick up your players as you go.
13Slizz
      ID: 517361522
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 22:05
MBJ is gonna be back contending with ricky!

Great pick.
14gshade
      ID: 357551320
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 22:18
Nice pick MBJ, slizz and I thought you'd be all over that.
15Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 22:22
Super surprise pick! Ricky will have all the best ganja in the league. mbj's team will be the most mellow in G24!

Ricky will not actually rush more than 75 times, this year, or ever...but that's another story.
16Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 23:02
Safe to say its the year of the rookie RB? lord...
17Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 23:04
Toral jump on AIM when you get a chance.
18Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 00:53
Done.
19Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 07:22
Emailed my queue to Slizz and Ref.
20Peter N.
      ID: 16520218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 07:58
Queue sent to Ref.
21deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:53
5 min & i'll pick
22Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:16
great pick DS!

I was hoping he'd slip to me with potentially my 2nd round pick.
23gshade
      ID: 43725129
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:23
DS, i hope u got an absolute stud with that d. thomas pick
24deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:25
thanks Slizz. I hope the big receivers are back.
25deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:26
gshade - it's hard to root for a Redskin, but I can make exceptions for an individual player. lol
26Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:00
I don't know how many times I've gotten the message, "Thank God for a three hour clock!"

I'm getting ready to send thk an email to talk about things. I know he is busy but so are a lot of people. Thing is that he's timed out of drafts a lot. He has a good team and want to give him every chance to remain in this league as we have every year. Remember when rfs used to remove managers immediately the 2nd time they timed out in a draft?!?!

Please Make sure you are emailing the next three managers to pick after you post. If you post a Q, please email the next three. Some people are at their computer, but don't know they are up because people fail to email them. One manager just informed me that he didn't get ANY emails from the three people in front of him. If we want to get through this in time, we need to do a better job of this collectively.

Once thk picks or times out, a bunch of picks are goign to come off the board in a hurry. I've got my pick figured out (hope he is still there!) and have Qs or have talked to the other guys around me.
28deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 15:53
I emailed THK, TB, & Slizz from CBS as soon as I picked #19.

From: "deepsnapper"
To: ,
"TB" ,
"Slizz"
Subject: G24 Draft RD 1
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:45:30

clock an hour earlier than the pick is due to my being on CDT (I'm not that good) lol
29Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:04
DS, thk was emailed 3 or 4 times lol!!! He definitely got notice.
30deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:27
Ref - I hear ya. I popped mine off 3 min. after I picked so he got notice immediately after my selection. the TO: was to THK at an EDU addy. It didn't get copied over from my properties copy of the email info.. strange.
31deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:43
Has anyone called Action Figures and told him he's up?
32Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:11
Hi DS, i am exchanging texts w/him now...he should pick shortly.
33deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:15
cool Slizz. I've been chasing draft rationales over in RIFC & lost track of time.
34deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:54
I emailed PD, CCR, & GO.
35 CT
      ID: 467121913
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:58
If my 2.22 comes up - please me at 480 220 2801. (in addition to the email)
Thanks
36Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:09
please you?

Does that cost us like $9.99/minute? :)
37TB
      ID: 57191810
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:11
Ref- thanks for making my pick.

I will be operating via queue and email the entire draft during normal work hours. No access to the site from government computer and I am on the road. I also don't have access to the game site or my email during the day so won't be emailing whoever is next or adding anyone I draft to my team until I do get back to my hotel room each evening.
38Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:20
Thanks for heads-up TB. We will take care of you. If I can't, I'll fwd it w/ enough notice. That person can then email next three. That's what Qs are for.

Really need to get back on pace. Those long picks not only slow down the draft itself, but hurts the flow with people being able to hang out and make their pick after they get email notification.
39Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:27
Anyone seen or heard from PD?

I emailed him earlier in the day about something else and hadn't heard form him and I heard another league is waiting on him. Perhaps he's just out for the day and can't get in touch?
40mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:36
I thought I read on that league's thread that he was on PEI with limited access. It's RIFC AA.
41deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 19:18
mjd - you are correct. I posted a note over there if anyone had contact with him that he times out at 20:24 over here. He must be in the woods if the cabin doesn't have a phone or internet.
42ccrider
      ID: 177461915
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 19:57
fyi - i'm here and will be ready with pick 2.05 at 20:25 if PD has not come out of the woods by then.
43Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 20:36
PD will be autoskipped at 2.10 unless he makes up his skipped pick before then.
44Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 22:39
I emailed skinneej. He's been on the clock since 9:52.

Now PD has been skipped twice. thk has been skipped once. Neither have made up their picks yet.
46Peter N.
      ID: 16520218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 07:46
Queue for Round 2 sent to Ref.
47skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 08:54
Sorry, I got in late and checked the draft thread to see that it was not my pick yet. I crashed and just caught up this morning on the skipped picks.
48Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:16
skinneej, I specifically emailed you about that.

Concerned about PD and thk. Neither of made up their missed picks. PD has missed his first two picks. THK's 2nd pick is coming up and then PD's 3rd pick will be up shortly after that.
49Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:30
I just got this email:

Ref,
Unfortunately my time commitment is strained, but for some reason G24 just hasn't caught my imagination any more once I started some larger leagues. I apologize for trying to stick around when I didn't have the sufficient time, but I mean...look at that team. I really apologize to all the league members and hope the league continues to be successful.

Thanks,
THK

Frick has replaced him. and is getting signed in now. Since he has a skipped pick and needs to replace one. It is only fair that we PAUSE the draft until he makes up his pick. DS (and PD) will be able to mak eup their pick once Frick selects. DS' time won't continue until then.
50Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:31
DS already picked before i posted so that pick is legal. Twarpy will be on the clock after Frick picks.
51Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:56
1.20 pick made. I'm trying to get caught up, but hopefully I can get my spreadsheet updated by my next pick.

52StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:58
Welcome to the league Frick and thanks for jumping in so fast!
53blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:16
Twarpy wants Derrick Ward. Can someone please add it to the thread...?
54Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:17
Welcome Frick!

One issue fixed.

This is what pd posted in rifc aa:

27 Perm Dude
ID: 137321812
Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 13:33 OK, am filling up my queue right now.

Turns out the cottage I am staying at not only has no internet, but no phone line. Grrr. Will pack in about 50 players on the queue, and should be able to check in once a day to refill.

Nothing in regards to G24.
55deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:22
Frick - Welcome! and thanks for juming into the league so fast. You'll find this league challenging and fun at the same time.
56Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:54
Doug just made a duplicate pick of Ahmad Bradshaw.
57deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:22
Say what?
58deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:24
True statement Greg - especially for a left coaster. Hope Doug is still aroound.
59Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:33
Doug is around. Been IMing him. He knows.

Funny that someone from outside of the league caught it.

TB did NOT leave me a q for today. His access is sparse. We may be on hold for awhile again. :(

Still trying to figure otu what to do with PD. I don't think we can allow him to miss his first three picks. Options are basically to replace him or try and find someone to pick for him. This is a pretty tough league for that, but better than skipping the anymore picks. I don't have anyone else on the wait list and at this point we'd need someone who is very good and would be better to have someone that has experience with our leagues to jump in running like Frick.
60blackjackis21
      ID: 247442111
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:44
Can anyone take a q for my 2.24? I gotta hop on a plane in about 20 minutes. Thanks.
61Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:48
send it to me. I don't pick again until round 4.

Twarpy forgot to pick up bradshaw--hence the double pick. We really need to remember to pcik up our own players. It's easy to forget.
62blackjackis21
      ID: 387542111
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:54
Thanks Ref - will send shortly.
63Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:01
Reading TB's post, he is not going to be able to pick until tonight since he didn't send a q. He times out at 3:02. But since he's already told us he can't be here, there is no sense wasting his c time. I've emailed him and he's lost an hour already so let's move on. CT is on the clock as of 1:02.
64deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:08
Ref - why can't you and Card's make the picks for PD. I've reviewed the picks in the RIFC AA league that the queue has made for PD and he is being killed by it. 5 rounds in and no RB? How could ya'lls picks be worse for his team than a crazy queue?

He's losing chances at quality players with every pick. That's my vote anyway rather than lose Fred due to him being out in the wilderness.
65Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:12
or find a random designated picker like when I initally helped out Cliff.
maybe give i.e. someone like barilko, Tree or wiggs a roster and a list of available options and then we can let them make unbiased selections.
66Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 425869
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:16
yeah, I agree with the above. They could look at our discards from the keeper thread and pick some players not found in the draft thread.

by the way, did TB just get skipped?
67Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:18
I would vote for any of the above options besides continuing to skip his picks. Give him the best available player based on ESPN's rankings or ADP rankings.

At least if he is getting the BPA he might have a chance of trading them for a spot he needs.
68Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:24
PD: We are discussing our options

TB: as I posted in 63, as he indicated, there is no chance of him being able to make a pick before this evening. He forgot to leave a Q. Rather than charge him for 3 hrs on his c clock and hold the draft up for 2 more hours, we can move on and he is saved that two hours. I feel bad for his situation. Shocked he didn't send a q today as he sent one yesterday and that is now empty.
69TB
      ID: 57191810
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:43
I will make a pick in a couple minutes, please no more picks until I do select my 2nd rounder.
70deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:43
How about Species? He's a sharp stick and has been peeking in. I can certainly give him my ID to let him check PD's team. ( It's not like he hasn't had it before.) ;)
71Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:44
OK, don't I feel like an ass now.

Sorry TB!
72beastiemiked
      ID: 06411813
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:53
Get someone to pick for PD. Definitely can't be any worse than letting him not pick.
73TB
      ID: 57191810
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:04
Ref, you made the right call. I actually got lucky that I was able to check in. Oakland was at the top of my queue, so I got my pick. I meant to send a queue last night, but we were 18 picks away when I checked so went out to have a couple beers and figured I could recheck when I got back. A few beers turned in to many beers and shots and suffice it to say I didn't get back on the internet until today.

I am flying after training today and won't be back online until about midnight, but doubt it gets back to me before then.
74Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:38
Sorry Roy. It was a total fluke that I peeked in. I was curious about the picks and caught it for some weird reason. I am NOT up on football and just this weekend totally half-assed my one in-person football draft. I'll have to pass on being PD's picker. I have a hard enough time knowing who is the #2 WR on a team, let alone their 4th.
75Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 15:08
Didn't realize that bj was up. Trying to work on the PD situation and pick in RIFC league while battling computer issues. UGH! Going to reboot yet again!
77Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 15:42
mbj just emailed me. He's in court and will be at least an hour before he can get computer access.

I have posted for help in every RIFC league as those managers probably are more attuned to our needs because of the set-up.


RE: PD
If we don't have a fix by the time he is skipped for his third time--we will stop the draft and cards and I will confer to make his picks up.

If we had any kind of heads-up before the draft, we could have prepared for it, but this is disappointing to say the least. Hard to try and rebuild his team when he misses these picks.
78 dwetzel on BB
      ID: 357511510
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:40
If needed I can help for pd picks if you do not mind giving 3 hours. At most. Would need that long to get a look at rosters. Not offended if you need faster or better.
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:44
GoatLocker has agreed to make picks. As you know he was in this league since the inception until last year when he decided to limit his leagues.

We have not yet decided what to do beyond having GL making these picks.
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:46
I can try to fill in for PD in his absence. I'm doing the same thing in his AA league.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on the scoring, the roster config, and any significant idiosyncrasies that I should be aware of?
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:48
I defer to Goatlocker. Thanks.
82deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:51
Thanks for the offers dwetzel & Guru. It's nice to know people will step up in a pinch.
83Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:51
Thanks Guru. Appreciate the offer. Got GL signed into CBS.

Since mbj can't readily make his pick, I don't think we need to stop the draft at this point.
84Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:53
RE: 82

Absolutely. I got some emails and IMs about it too. Some could only do it for today or for a couple days, etc. Just knowing people were willing to step in and help really makes you feel good!
85deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 21:21
I've got AF on the phone. give me a sec,
86StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 21:22
LOL, I had him on the phone too. Probably get about 15 calls until that message gets deleted!
87deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 21:31
Cards - would you pick up Gaffney for him and get him off CBS? thx.
88Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 21:45
I got him when I picked up Lee for GL.
89deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 22:52
Thanks Ref - I'm sending you a queue for 3.16 as I may not be available in the morning.
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 22:58
Well we've been held up on this pick every night. Sure hope skinneej checks his email and/or checks in here tonight. He's really eating up his c clock already.
92CT Cards
      ID: 237441822
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 01:20
I am in non formal meetings tomorrow a.m.- close to my computer access in office- however, if I am up for a pick, a text at 480 220 2801 would help me out- thanks
93Peter N.
      ID: 16520218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 01:39
Nothing like falling asleep at 7:00pm and waking up in the middle of the night. I'm still getting used to this real-world work schedule. Anyway, I sent a queue to Ref for Round 3.
94Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 10:35
When does SkineeJ time out? If I did my math correctly, it should be shortly.
95 Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 10:38
I tell ya, if it looks like Merriman is taking this season off...
I'd look to trade him to a rebuilding team for a draft pick here so I can get a replacment of some sort. Or for a solid starting DL/LB.
97Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 11:15
Who is on the clock as I think it has been 3 hours?
98Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 11:16
Coyotes, you've been on the clock most of the day.

skinneej timed out early this morning. I'll post the coyotes pick and we can move on.
99Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 11:17
Can a mod nuke post 96 please?
100deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 12:45
Ref - You didn't like my stinking kicker choices in my queue?
101Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:07
I emailed you DS. I have so mnay emails and Qs, that I forgot you had sent me one until I saw your pick. I picked him up for you on CBS at least. ;)
102Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:12
RE: 94

skinneej timed out at like 8:23 am. He's down to just 3:37 left on his entire draft clock.

There are a few guys who realy could leave a Q since they can't check in often. This could come back to bite them later in the draft.

Overall, we're a little behind our minimum pace.

Man, not having a pick in the 2nd or 3rd round is killing me. There are guys with 4 and 5 picks made already. Several more picks before I can go. This has been pretty tough draft to watch since I'm sitting on the sidelines! ;)
103deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:43
no problems, I emailed the next 3.
104Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 14:20
Do clocks continue on the weekend? If so, will anyone be around to take a queue? I'll be around, but I don't know if I will be around to check in every couple of hours.
105Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:02
Yes. Clocks run daily except midnight-8am ET.
106Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:04
I need to figure out what all Qs i have and post them so I can get an email when that person is up.

I texted CT per his request.
107GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 17:49
Just emailed next three.
108 CT Cards
      ID: 237441822
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 20:25
I will be at the Dback game tonight -14 picks to go before me as I type- I will check when I get home tonigh- I am not putting in a q for the 4.22 pick - as I think I'll be fine based on the selection times to this point. Just an fyi-
109Frick
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 21:19
Anyone have any interest in taking a queue in case it gets to 4.20 before morning?
110 Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 21:37
I'll be around
111Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 23:38
GO timed out at 11:21.

skinneej is on the clock once again at the end of the night.
113StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 10:10
I'm leaving in two minutes so I guess I'll have to leave a queue. Guess I'll send it to mbj since he picks after me. Will cc ref on it too.
114StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 10:14
emails sent
115Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 11:23
I've got Cards' Q so will be good to go when Doug pix
116Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 11:24
This could be really quick since Doug then picks again right after mbj.
117TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 12:30
Ref, I have to take off and know I sent a big long queue last night, but just sent a 3-man queue for this next pick. If it gets back to me for the following round before tomorrow, please go ahead and revert back to the long list. Thanks!
118Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 12:42
Got it TB.
119Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 425869
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 13:39
Ref, since it seems you're the de facto queue taker, I'll go ahead and send you one for my 5.2 pick. I'll be gone a few hours.
120deepsnapper
      ID: 3676299
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 14:43
Ref - I cleaned up the Supplemental Draft thread. If you want any more corrections or I missed something, let me know.
121Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:01
I might need to fwd some of these Qs. My time has been intermittant today and will likely continue for this afternoon.
122deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:38
Called AF & left message along with emailing next 3.

I didn't get TB's queue if you intended to send it. I do have Toral's
123GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:43
I'm actually working today, but am doing it at home.
Continueing to poke in every so often.
Will check again in a bit.

Cliff
124StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 18:03
I'm back and will be able to make my next pick, assuming it comes up again.
thanks
125Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 21:30
I'm here DS.

We haven't been able to get over this hump yet. So I didn't figure it would get to TB.
126StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 21:42
I have a queue for GO but after the first pick via queue he sent an email saying he was back and would be able to make this pick.
127Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 21:55
5 minutes...
128Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 22:04
Man, that was tough... after some guys got hurt tonight glad my que didn't get all the way through. Had to revamp.
129Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 00:03
Unless Skinneej makes his pick before 9:01 am, he will time out of the draft at that time.
131TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 00:19
Ref, you are the hardest working commish on the planet. I appreciate what you've been doing for me personally during this draft and for how you've kept it running smoothly as a whole.
132StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 01:13
When my turn comes around just use the queue I sent this morning. mbj and ref both have it.
133Perm Dude
      ID: 54757247
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 09:12
I'm back. I posted this in the RIFC AA thread as well, but my lack of access for this draft was particularly a pain, as I spent a lot of prep time for this draft and took all sorts of sheets and magazines with me on my vacation to use in the draft.

But first of all, I have to apologize to everyone in the draft. I won't bore you with the details, but my vacation essentially consisted of shopping (while worrying about the lack of internet access), taking the kids to the beach (while worrying about the lack of internet access), sneaking in about 30 minutes total on the computer the entire week, and coming back a day early (15 hours of driving straight) to get back in the office here.

I had no idea the cottage not only had no internet access, but that there were no phone lines. I have to do a lot of smoothing of feathers this week for a couple of clients who were unable to reach me last week as well. Originally, the plan was to queue up in the mornings in the drafts, spend the day doing vacation stuff with the kids, then queue maintainence at night as needed. All that went into the toilet (or "toilette" as they say on PEI).

All in all, a mess, ably handled it appears by the commishes and Guru. My thanks to them for stepping into the breach.

Give me just a couple of hours to clear through the draft sheets and get back to speed. Again, my apologies and thanks for your continued patience. I'm a long-time Gurupie and would *never* do anything like this lack of access intentionally.
134deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 09:22
Welcome back Fred. Is PEI that remote? Hell we got phones in Texas (unless you go out near Lubbock where Peter N went to school). You have to tie your messages to tumble weeds out there. ;)

Ref - re: 129 - has he timed out? Is CC on the clock? It's 6:20am on the left coast.
135Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 09:48
131: Thx TB. I learned that if we don't work, a draft this big goes to crap. Trying to do it as fast as we need to this year is extra challenging but the league has really responded (for the most part) as usual.

PD, glad to see that everything is ok. Being a long-time Gurupie and in all of our leagues since inceptions was the factor in simply trying to find a replacement picker. GL worked hard to help so we all thank him for that. Please be sure to send him a note when you're up to speed.

Skinneej: Not sure what is up with him. He's been able to make hs picks (albeit untimely). He's been slow to respond on the vote as well. I am hoping this is just temporary--but others have little to no access but have made arrangements. For the integrity of the draft--we don't like to skip people--but we also have to keep the draft moving--hence the c clock. We've NEVER had someone time out of their clock so fast.

From now on, skinneej won't be on the clock. He is auto-skipped. The manager after him will be OTC immediately. When you email the next three and his pick is included, you're basiclaly going to email the next 4. He may pick as soon as the guy before him has picked but he doesn't have an exclusive slot anymore so it's first post-first take between him and whoever is OTC.

The only other manager who has less than their avg per pick time left is AF. I am not sure how much longer he is going to have spotty access and need someone to call/text him.

Draft is going ok. I think we should be able to get the draft done in time. Seeing how we got through the same amount of picks yesterday as we have the rest of the week helps. If we can get doen before Labor Day Weekend it will help a few of you who are planning on being away. Then we need to discuss when to turn on waivers.

Being active in this league is so important. Missed or bad draft picks. Missing trade opps or missing WW/FA opportunities could mean all the difference. It's possible with good managing (and some luck) to turn your team around quickly.
136deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 10:23
Ref - I cleaned up the Keeper thread last night. Other than a few "bolds" here & there, it appears OK to me. LMK if I missed sum thin. ds
137coldwater coyotes
      ID: 267201121
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 10:47
Just woke .....am I up?????
138Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 11:01
Yes coyotes. You've been up for a couple hrs. You now immediately follow GO in the draft since sj's c clock expired.
139Frick
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 15:26
I'm going to be out mowing the lawn and playing with the kids. Can someone make my next pick for me.

3 man queue below, just in case I didn't realize one was already selected.

Dennis Northcutt

Donte Stallworth

Jerry Porter
140Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 16:23
I may have to fwd TBs Q along with my own shortly. Of course I gotta go figure out who that is now!
141TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 17:15
I am around to make my own pick when my turn comes up so no need for the queue.
142Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 17:24
Doug times out at 5:43.
143TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 18:21
I looked at my clock when you aid that and was thinking my own time zone. Glad I just rechecked or would have wasted another 30 minutes or so. Next 3 have been messaged.
144Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 18:23
I'm out for the next few hrs. Don't send me any Qs please. I'm on deck so if CT can't pick in that time, Slizz has my Q.
145StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 19:38
Ref is up and Slizz apparently has his queue. Slizz you around?
146StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 19:39
Right now we're averaging about 1 round per day. Unless we pick up the pace everyone can plan on drafting over Labor Day Weekend.
147 Perm Dude
      ID: 57412411
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 20:29
I'm around this evening, working through a huge amount of paperwork. Someone drop me an email when I'm up--I should be able to pick within about 15 minutes (or less), until about 1am EST tonight.

Hopefully it'll get at least to me tonight.
148deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 22:46
Leff message for AF.
149deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 23:48
next 3 emails sent
150Perm Dude
      ID: 57412411
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 00:03
Moving along...
152Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 01:03
Hope everyone had a lovely evening. Slizz apparently did even though he said he was going to be here!!! lol I appreciate you posting my pick for me. Didn't have the time to do proper research so Ks looked pretty easy and I was going to ahve to get one eventually so there you go!

As far as the draft is concerned, Cards is right, we've fallen off the pace. I expected to slow down over the weekend, but we didn't get ahead through the week as we normally do. So we're well behind now. Not behind of finishing before the season starts, but Labor Day weekend is this week. We not only have to get through the draft, but then go over rosters and turn waivers on. Then make sure they can run at least once (pref. twice) before the first game lock on Thurs. I think we will be fine--but drafting or even putting waiver claims in could get tricky. Commishs can't put in WW claims for you!

As far as the c clock goes, besides sj not having any time left, AF now has less than 3 hrs. Several have texted or claled him to try and help him out and I assume that is going to have to continue--but he still needs to be ready to pick and someone is going to have to contact him quicker. I htought he was getting emails via phone as he responded to an email I sent him that way. Most everyone else seems to be fine. Remember, Qs don't charge time.
153Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:02
Posted my pick and changed my mind on my que last second there... thanks anyhow guys.
154Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:15
Talk about flip-flop! Since your post was first, your pick is the legal one.
155Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:17
Yeah, sorry about that, I'm all over the place... but at least we are both fast!
It was only a conference call so I had time to sit there and think it over for a couple minutes.
156deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:45
Ref - I'm sending you a queue for RD 6. I've got a DRs appt. in about 45 mins. Should be back around 1P CT.
157 CT
      ID: 467121913
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 14:03
Gang, I can take q's for a few hours today. I'll be locked on my computer from 3:30-5:45 pst -just fyi.
158deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 15:24
Ref - Thanks for making my pick - ran late as I had to go have x-rays.
159Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 16:14
NP, DS.

Even with a near TO, we're ahead of pace thus far today. We only had 17 picks yesterday and have 16 made already today. We're on pace to get over 30 picks in.
160TB
      ID: 395122110
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 16:40
Give me a couple minutes to update my cheat sheet and then will make my pick.
161Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 17:28
AF should prob get a q ready now...if someone can get a hold of him.
162Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 18:35
I emailed the next three and texted AF that he was up. First chance I had to check in all day, did some research, and saw I'd been on the clock for a minute...
163Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 19:33
Need to fwd Qs. Anyone going to be around?
164 Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 19:35
I'll be here
165Perm Dude
      ID: 497322512
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 19:44
I'm checking in every 15 mins or so.
166Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 19:53
PD, then you should know that you are OTC.
167Perm Dude
      ID: 497322512
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 20:04
OK--I thought AF was up. Gimme just a minute.

pd
168Peter N.
      ID: 16520218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 22:57
Ref, sent new queue for Round 7 with corrections. Thanks
169Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 23:21
I just got back in time for the q--Pete.
171Peter N.
      ID: 2631217
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 07:50
Thanks, once again, for the cover Ref. You can use the remainder of that Round 7 queue for Round 8.
172Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 08:08
Picks 9.15 & 10.15

I have an extra pick at 9.15 or 10.15. Should someone see a guy they want at that spot, I'd be willing to trade out.

All I am asking for is a 2009 9th or 10th round pick in exchange for my 11th round pick. Nothing more.
173blackjackis21
      ID: 3770269
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:00
A head's up and request - I'm going to have to make picks by my phone today and can't access cbs to pick up players, so I'd appreciate it if someone could do that for me for any picks made today. I should be able to e-mail the next three.
Thanks.
174StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:05
Guess my one player Q didn't make it past DS afterall.
175deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:40
I'll be out from 10am-2pm CT for another Drs appt. 2nd of 3 this week. I doubt if it gets back to me. ;)
176deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:41
Last D Cards, couldn't pass it up. lol
177coldwater coyotes
      ID: 267201121
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:42
What are Bemgals???
178beastiemiked
      ID: 06411813
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:02
I need someone to take a queue. Leaving pretty soon so kinda need someone to post here fast.
180mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 12:35
Still 10 picks until it gets back to me. I'll be back by 4.
181Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 12:56
Heading back into a all-day meeting. Should be done in an hour or so. No Qs please until then. I can't email the next 3. I'm late. Please assist. Thanks. I picked real quick. Pleasep ick up your players as I almost picked guys up again.
182deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 14:59
re: 177 - and the eyes are the best thing I've got going for me right now. I'll fix it.

I texted AF he was 2 away.
183Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:19
What a day! Whewwwwww

Wasn't looking for a DL at this point but could'nt figure out the other stuff it limited tme and DL looked a lot easier and I needed it. Didn't think it would get to me to be honest, but we're really moving. Need to get caught up.
184Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:31
AF times out of the draft at 5:17. Hopefully he is able to make his pick quickly to save his time for future picks.

mbj, I thought maybe since Smith was no longer a Bemgal ;) that you wouldn't want him!

DS has been doing a great job of helping to edit our threads. Much appreciated. I'm sure the Bemgals appreciate it too!!! lol
185deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 16:59
I left AF a message when he came up. Haven't heard back.
186Perm Dude
      ID: 497322512
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:09
Standing by to pick...
187Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:22
AF had timed out.......
188Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:30
PD's been on the clock since 5:17.

Fwd a few Qs to a few of you. Hopefully one of you can pos tthem when they come up as I'm in and out a lot still.
189deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:47
Made AF's pick and emailed the next 3
190Perm Dude
      ID: 317502616
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 17:50
OK, will be about 10 mins.
191Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 18:24
Note to my queue-holders: you may use the remainder of my 7.06 queue for my 7.10 pick.
192Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 20:06
I've gotten a few Qs today for their 7th round picks--but we're in the 8th.

I texted Twarpy. I am here for just a few mins. Pete has one player left in his q and I have one player left in mine. If Twarpy can't pick soon. I will need to fwd them.
193deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 21:47
Pick done and next 3 emailed.
195Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 01:04
Some Draft Tidbits...

Frick is OTC until 9:54 am...

We've almost caught up to our minimum draft pace to get done before Labor Day Weekend. We should probably start talking about if anyone does not have access to CBS over the long weekend as it would be helpful to get Waivers turned on. Remember when waivers are turned on it's minimum one full day. So if we turn them on Sunday--they don't get assigned until Tues. morning. That is the latest we can do it for dropped players from the WW to be claimed again before the first game on Thurs. Once waivers run, they are all free agents except for those dropped players. In fact, even if you are away for the weekend, you can still claim players as long as you get your claim in before the CBS sti rns soemtime after midnight on Tuesday morning.

AF has now timed out of the draft. It's rare for us to have two people to use up their c clock. No one else is under 3 hours. Most have more than 6.
196TB
      ID: 395122110
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 01:08
I just shot you and Frick a 2-man queue for my 8th round and a longer queue for the 9th round. I have to take a road trip tomorrow afternoon and don't expect I will be here when the draft swings back around for the 9th.
197Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 08:12
Sorry, just realized I was OTC. I'll make my and TB's picks in the next 5 minutes.

198deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 11:36
Ref - I sent you & Cards a queue for AF as I my be MIA for lunch.
199Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 11:56
Whoops, sorry for holding it up as shade is in a meeting...
200StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 14:39
I was in a meeting most of the a.m. and will be unavailable all afternoon so I will be unavailable for queues for the rest of the day.
201deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 15:30
I'm back. I can take a queue should the need arise.
202mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 15:43
waiting on Promise to pick.
203Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 16:24
promize timed out at 4:10 IIRC.
204mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 16:33
Got it, thanks.

Pick in a few.
205Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 17:33
Sorry,

Thought I would be home at lunch today and had an unexpected meeting today.

206Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 20:29
I texted twarpy awhile back. He tiems out at 9:46 but I suspect he'll find a way to pick soon.
207Perm Dude
      ID: 49742278
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 21:29
We're getting to the part of the draft where some of the names sound made up...
208TB
      ID: 395122110
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 21:33
I think the last three picks have the wrong draft pick number.
9.12 Jordy Nelson - should be 9.13
9.13 Quentin Jammer - should be 9.14
9.14 Earl Bennett - should be 9.15

I am around to make my own pick if it makes it to me tonight.
209StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 22:05
I left a q player q with both ref and mbj. The draft picks are indeed numbered wrong so while it doesn't look like it from the numbers,

deepsnapper is up
210deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 22:19
I waiting for 9.15 to post and then I finally looked at who'd posted. D'oh!
211Frick
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 22:54
Queue for my Round 9 pick sent to TB and Ref.
212Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 23:08
Re: 208

I just figured that out. Told Twarpy thanks a lot!!! lol Maybe DS can fix...;)

DS I did email you and say you were up tho.
214Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 07:57
I have 1 extra pick @ 10.15 as a result of the trade with CT.

Is anybody interested in moving up to 10.15?

My asking price is a 2009 10th round pick in exchange for my 2008 10th round & my 11th next year.

Ref - If I do not get an offer, I will go ahead a select a guy @ 10.15.
215Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 08:05
I'm glad I went the direction I did with my 9th round pick. The back-up QB I wanted was picked a couple of picks ahead of me. The one I would have preferred, but due to bye week conflicts went a couple of picks after.

Is there a lot of FA/WW movement during the season? Looking at the rosters and constraints it seems like the should be due to the roster constraints.

Also, can I get a reference or a quick run down on how waiver priority is handled and if/when FA pick-ups are allowed?
216Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 08:24
Frick - there is a decent amount. Mostly to fill byes and snatch up players like Derrick Ward who will get the starting role if the starter (Jacobs) gets injured. There is almost always one or two breakout players who could help your roster (i.e. Ryan Grant, Earnest Graham, etc.)

Waiver priority is based on record (i.e. the draft order). It gives the worst teams the best odds to get their hands on that "hot" player. On average, if you started off the season @ #24, there you'll be at the #1 waiver spot by seasons end. My bills started off with the #4 priority last year, I accidentally used it week 1 for Napoleon Harris (dont laugh) and got back to the top priority around week 10.

If you choose not to use the waiver system, just wait until the morning after all players clear waivers to pick someone up.
217deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 09:35
Ref - Nevermind AF's queue. I was too slow typing...... more coffee! lol
218Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 09:50
E-mail client refusing to send messages to StLCards. Worked yesterday! 10.06 Q sent to Deepsnapper. Ref will be asleep for a while.

Who else wantsa queue?

Toral
219 Perm Dude
      ID: 13747288
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 09:55
here
220Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 10:58
214: Slizz your draft is over. If you still own 10.15 when 10.14 is picked, it is forfeited and autoskipped since you can't exceed 20 players.

215: The process is explained in the rules. In a nutshell, it's reverse draft order and doesn't reset. Also you can look at historical transaction history as well. Takes a little time going back, but it gives you an idea at least. 216 is accurate. At times we're scraping the bottom of the barrell and many times players don't pan out and are thrown back at times for one week wonders.

218: I emailed you when I saw that you were OTC and I didn't have a q for you.
221Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 11:00
Btw, Toral

You are in no danger of timing out of the draft. ;)
222StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 11:34
I actually I see that I did get your queue TOral so not sure why the error message. Of course you had already picked before I saw it though.
223Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 11:41
Cards: Funny; my e-mail program kept trying to send it every time I tried to send another e-mail, unsuccessfully and giving an error message, and I eventually had to delete it from the outbox to stop this.

I tried to send a cc to deepsnapper in the same e-mail. Maybe that be the problem?

How many e-mails did you get from me? If the problem is not at your end you should have got 2.

Toral
224StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 11:47
I just got one queue at 8:48. Later on I got a message about your on the block update.
225deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 12:51
Toral - I got 3. The first one requested a receipt. Maybe that was the problem(?)
226Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 13:32
ds, you're otc as i emailed...

As I've looked at some rosters, stuff didn't seem right. Yet every time I've chekced settings they were right. Here's the issue...

First the settings are right and no one can circumvent them. However, if you tr yand start too many WR/RB/TE combo, CBS will let you do it and not show you an empty slot for another position (such as an IDP). However, your lineup is still illegal and won't score you any points. You will still get the yellow warning flag.

The issue arises because you can have from 1-3 RB or WR or TEs. There is a min of 1 each (3) and a max of 5. So you can have 2 rb 2 wr 1 te, 1 rb 3 wr 1 te, etc. An invalid lineup scores 0 points for the week. That has never happened in our league.
227Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 13:44
Laff. Thanx deepsnapper. I have never requested a receipt for an e-mail (intentionally). I get requests like that occassionally and they piss me off. Who the F are you that I have to send you a receipt to acknowledge your (probably dumb) e-mail?

Maybe a default setting on my cc's. I rarely cc.

Toral
228deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 13:52
ugh. spend more time in the 10th pick than on the first 5 combined.....
230Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 19:54
bj times out at 8:43.

I prob won't be around until later tonight. Tomorrow I will be gone all afternoon. No Qs please.
231 CT
      ID: 467121913
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 20:04
Ref- I sent you a que for r 11; however, saw that you may be gone a majority of tomorrow- I forward to someone else, or anyone else available to take my 11.22 q?

Thanks-
ct
232blackjackis21
      ID: 387592723
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 20:07
Crap - sorry guys. Got stuck in a meeting. I'll pick later tonight, but at this point, I guess that doesn't matter. Truly sorry.
233deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 21:08
Last round. Shade's up. bj21's timed out.
234Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 21:27
Just checked in and slizz IMed me with shade's pick.
236Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 07:22
My picks for last round (11)... No secrets at this point :) Not sure who is going to be around to send queue to anyways.

So use either one of these two when my turn comes up. Thanks

Chris Long, DL, STL
Arizona D

237Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 08:33
CT send me your pick. I have a queue for TB's last pick so I can knock out all 3 picks. Ref if you are going to be gone and want to send me your pick feel free.

I'm going to be on the road starting this evening, probably 6-7 EST, so I will need someone to take the queues at that point.
238TB
      ID: 395122110
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 08:55
I will be home by then so if you have to leave before all our picks, you can send them back to me.
239Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 10:09
Promize, there are lots of secrets and surprising depth left at certain positions. And DS owns the Cards' D.

I am really surprised how we've slowed.

Does antone have Toral's Q? He's made it a point to send one out even if he was ultimately around.
240coldwater coyotes
      ID: 267201121
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 10:32
I shall be travelling for most of the day so, if I don't make my final
pick within 30 mins, feel free to skip me.
241 Perm Dude
      ID: 54759298
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 10:34
If you've got a queue you can send it over coldwater.
242deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 12:48
Ref - RD 10 queues I received from Toral specifically stated not to use in RD 11, & I don't have a new one - sorry.

I've got a late afternoon eye appt & it's out of town so I'll be gone from 4PM-8PM ET. What a strain. I'll need to send a queue if it hasn't made it to me by then.
243deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 15:49
can anyone take a queue?
244deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 16:28
PD - I'm going to send my queue to you and REF - otherwise I'm out for 4 hrs. Sorry
245Perm Dude
      ID: 23752914
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 16:34
got it.
246TB
      ID: 395122110
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 19:39
If you are around PD, DS is up.

I believe this is all we have left to finish the draft:
11.16 ds' Eagles
11.17 Cards' 49ers
11.18 mbj's Bengals
11.19 Doug's Raiders
11.20 Frick's Vikings
11.21 TB's Ravens
11.22 CT's Cardinals
11.23 Ref's Colts
11.24 bj21's Rams
247TB
      ID: 395122110
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 19:41
Meant to add that I am around to take any queues to finish this thing up and will be around all night.
248Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 21:33
Man this draft is going nowhere fast. I'm back...but I have tons to do and can't wait around on here. I will check in ever yonce in awhile. I'm going to email Cards just in case.
249StLCards
      ID: 372301819
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 21:57
Busy day. At least I didn't hold it up too long.
250Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:41
I just emailed Toral. He hasn't made up his skipped pick yet. In our 2nd year a manager asked if he could just skip his last round pick and wait for news and pick asap. We quickly figured out that if he could--hell everyone would! So we decided then that a manager has a per pick clock (in this case 3 hrs) to make up his pick OR until the last manager picked or timed out to make up their picks or they couldn't make up their pick. It was only brought up one other time a couple years ago when Coyotes (who had the last pick of the draft) asked if he could just wait a few more hours to make his pick after he timed out. When we explained our procedure, he went ahead and picked.

I'm sure something just came up with Toral as he's had a q for every pick after the first round--even if he just blindly emailed them out. But if anyone else should get skipped we'd follow that procedure. Would still have time to get players off WW or FA. CT sent me a short q and said, if they aren't there I'll pick someone next week! lol
251deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:43
PD - thanks for the pickup. things ended up taking even longer than I anticipated.
252Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 22:47
Yeah same thing happened to me today. Labor Day weekend is nuts. Really had hoped to get done by this afternoon at the absolute latest--but it's fine.
253Perm Dude
      ID: 587112922
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 23:12
NP, snap. Glad to help.
254deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 23:41
Had to repick 11.16

Jerry Porter was a GShade keeper on his updated list. I missed it.
256Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 10:08
Doug times out at 10:30.
257Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 11:50
Frick would time out at 1:30.
258TB
      ID: 395122110
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 13:53
I had Frick's queue, but I was sleeping. He and I both got who we had at the top of our queues so it worked out.
259Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 14:02
The draft will conclude with bj21's pick.
261Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 14:47
G24 Cumulative Clock 2008
Manager Pick 1 Pick 2 Pick 3 Pick 4 Pick 5 Pick 6 Pick 7 Pick 8 Pick 9 P 10 P 11 Time Used Left Avg Status
Shade's Chiefs 0:07 0:02 0:05 0:08 0:06 0:12 0:50 0:49 0:58 0:14 0:00 12:00 3:31 8:29 0:19 Done
Yokel's Jaguars 0:00 0:44 0:35 0:06 0:00 0:26 0:01 0:26 0:22 1:12 2:21 12:00 6:13 5:47 0:33 Done
AF's Falcons 0:55 1:36 2:43 0:40 0:43 2:31 0:35 2:17 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 12:00 0:00 1:05 TO
PD's Browns 3:00 0:00 0:00 0:12 0:48 0:18 1:18 0:54 0:18 0:22 0:10 12:00 7:20 4:40 0:40 Done
CCR's Bears 0:01 0:01 0:11 1:39 0:00 0:07 0:02 0:31 0:47 0:00 3:00 12:00 6:19 5:41 0:34 Done
Toral's Saints 0:05 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 3:00 12:00 3:05 8:55 0:16 Done
Promize's Seahawks 0:25 0:19 0:14 1:44 1:40 0:00 0:19 0:21 3:00 0:13 0:00 12:00 8:15 3:45 0:45 Done
mjd's Chargers 0:08 0:22 0:06 0:41 0:12 0:00 0:07 0:00 0:31 0:08 0:36 12:00 2:51 9:09 0:15 Done
bmd's Texans 0:42 0:37 0:09 0:03 0:38 2:53 0:46 0:00 0:11 0:30 0:51 12:00 7:20 4:40 0:40 Done
GO's Jets 0:43 0:04 0:00 3:00 0:00 0:50 0:07 0:00 1:12 0:51 0:00 12:00 6:47 5:13 0:37 Done
SJ's Packers 2:23 3:00 3:00 0:39 2:58 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 12:00 0:00 1:05 TO
Coyotes' Broncos 1:09 0:12 1:54 0:10 2:02 1:01 1:13 0:11 0:02 0:27 0:30 12:00 8:51 3:09 0:48 Done
Twarpy's Giants 0:00 0:16 0:25 0:00 0:00 0:51 0:00 1:50 2:25 0:02 0:00 12:00 5:49 6:11 0:31 Done
Pete's Cowboys 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 3:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 1:23 12:00 4:23 7:37 0:23 Done
Slizz's Bills 0:11 0:00 0:36 0:03 0:25 0:05 0:49 0:04 0:38 0:44 0:00 12:00 3:35 8:25 0:19 Done
ds' Eagles 0:26 0:04 0:19 0:00 0:11 0:00 1:47 0:17 1:02 0:41 0:00 12:00 4:47 7:13 0:26 Done
Cards' 49ers 0:28 0:46 0:00 0:00 0:02 0:57 0:21 0:58 0:00 0:54 1:45 12:00 6:11 5:49 0:33 Done
mbj's Bengals 0:28 2:31 0:15 0:03 0:12 1:33 0:16 0:04 0:15 0:11 1:45 12:00 7:33 4:27 0:41 Done
Doug's Raiders 0:29 0:11 0:03 1:09 1:29 3:00 0:20 0:09 1:16 1:05 2:49 12:00 12:00 0:00 1:05 TO
Frick's Vikings 3:00 0:10 0:05 0:26 0:00 0:27 0:09 1:26 0:00 0:22 3:00 12:00 9:05 2:55 0:49 Done
TB's Ravens 0:00 1:00 0:00 0:00 0:27 0:16 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 1:43 10:17 0:09 Done
CT's Cardinals 0:01 0:03 0:05 1:01 0:07 0:05 1:20 0:00 0:02 0:00 0:00 12:00 2:44 9:16 0:14 Done
Ref's Colts 0:02 1:07 0:49 0:00 0:17 1:14 0:00 0:54 0:00 0:09 0:02 12:00 4:34 7:26 0:24 Done
bj21's Rams 0:00 0:07 0:19 0:17 0:27 0:17 0:50 0:14 0:00 3:00 0:32 12:00 6:03 5:57 0:33 Done
Total Time 14:43 13:12 11:53 12:01 15:44 17:03 11:10 11:25 12:59 11:05 21:44 12 6.37 5.63 0:34  
Avg/Mgr 0:36 0:33 0:29 0:30 0:39 0:42 0:27 0:28 0:32 0:27 0:54 12:00 6:22 5:37    
Avg/Pick                       1:05 0:34 0:30    
8/19/2008 17:55 Tu-W W-Th Th-F F-Sa Sa-Su Su-M M-Tu Tu-W W-Th Thurs Th-S   8/30/2008 14:10
Pick By Rd Rd 1 Rd 2 Rd 3 Rd 4 Rd 5 Rd 6 Rd 7 Rd 8 Rd 9 R 10 R 11 Time Used Left Avg Status
1 0:43 0:02 2:31 1:07 0:06 0:12 0:50 0:49 0:58 0:14 0:00 12:00 7:32 4:28 0:41  
2 0:04 0:44 0:35 0:06 0:00 0:26 0:01 0:26 0:22 1:12 2:21 12:00 6:17 5:43 0:34  
3 0:55 1:36 2:43 0:40 0:43 2:31 0:35 2:17 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 12:00 0:00 1:05  
4 0:05 3:00 0:00 0:12 0:48 0:18 1:18 0:54 0:18 0:22 0:10 12:00 7:25 4:35 0:40  
5 0:00 0:01 0:11 0:05 1:39 0:00 0:07 0:02 0:31 0:47 0:00 12:00 3:23 8:37 0:18  
6 0:01 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 3:00 12:00 3:01 8:59 0:16  
7 0:25 0:19 0:14 1:44 1:40 0:00 0:19 0:21 3:00 0:13 0:00 12:00 8:15 3:45 0:45  
8 0:08 0:22 0:06 0:41 0:12 0:00 0:07 0:00 0:31 0:08 0:36 12:00 2:51 9:09 0:15  
9 0:42 0:37 0:09 0:03 0:38 2:53 0:46 0:00 0:11 0:30 0:51 12:00 7:20 4:40 0:40  
10 0:28 0:00 0:11 3:00 0:50 0:07 0:00 0:00 1:12 0:51 0:00 12:00 6:39 5:21 0:36  
11 2:23 3:00 3:00 0:39 2:58 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 12:00 0:00 1:05  
12 1:09 0:12 1:54 0:10 2:02 1:01 1:13 0:11 0:02 0:27 0:30 12:00 8:51 3:09 0:48  
13 0:00 0:25 0:00 0:51 0:00 0:27 0:00 1:50 2:25 0:02 0:00 12:00 6:00 6:00 0:32  
14 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 3:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 1:23 12:00 4:23 7:37 0:23  
15 0:11 0:36 0:03 0:49 0:04 0:38 0:44 0:00 0:00 0:00 3:00 12:00 6:05 5:55 0:33  
16 0:26 0:19 0:00 1:09 0:11 0:00 1:47 0:17 1:02 0:41 0:00 12:00 5:52 6:08 0:32  
17 0:28 0:00 0:46 0:00 0:02 0:57 0:21 0:58 0:00 0:54 1:45 12:00 6:11 5:49 0:33  
18 0:07 0:05 0:15 0:03 0:12 1:33 0:16 0:04 0:15 0:11 1:45 12:00 4:46 7:14 0:26  
19 0:04 0:29 0:03 1:29 3:00 0:00 0:20 0:09 1:16 1:05 2:49 12:00 10:44 1:16 0:58  
20 3:00 0:10 0:05 0:26 0:00 0:27 0:09 1:26 0:00 0:22 3:00 12:00 9:05 2:55 0:49  
21 0:00 1:00 0:00 0:00 0:27 0:16 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00 12:00 1:43 10:17 0:09  
22 0:00 0:01 0:03 0:05 1:01 0:07 0:05 1:20 0:00 0:02 0:00 12:00 2:44 9:16 0:14  
23 0:02 0:08 0:25 0:49 0:00 0:17 1:14 0:54 0:00 0:09 0:02 12:00 4:00 8:00 0:21  
24 0:16 0:00 0:07 0:19 0:17 0:17 0:50 0:14 0:00 3:00 0:32 12:00 5:52 6:08 0:32  
Total Time 11:37 13:06 13:21 14:27 19:50 12:27 11:02 12:12 12:03 11:10 21:44 12 6.37 5.63 0:34  
Avg/Rd 0:29 0:32 0:33 0:36 0:49 0:31 0:27 0:30 0:30 0:27 0:54 12:00 6:22 5:37    
Avg/Pick                       1:05 0:34 0:30    
Picks by Day Tues Wed Thurs Fri Sat Sun Mon Tues Wed Thurs Fri Sat Total Avg
# Picks/Day 11 23 24 24 24 17 35 29 23 33 15 6 264 24.35
Total Time/Day 5:54 12:24 13:05 14:19 13:25 16:23 14:34 14:04 14:41 14:47 13:00 6:23 6.11 14:06
Avg/Pick/Day 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:35 0:33 0:57 0:24 0:29 0:38 0:26 0:52 1:03   0:42
Available Time 6:05 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 16:00 6:10 7.18 15:53
Avg/Pick/Avl Time 0:33 0:41 0:40 0:40 0:40 0:56 0:27 0:33 0:41 0:29 1:04 1:01   0:46
262Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 16:33
We can continue to use this thread until we get the admin stuff done to launch the season and get WW stuff done. Last year a Recap thread was requested. If that's something you are interested in again we can do that. I'll prob use the same thing RIFC uses so we don't recreate the wheel.
263Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 18:01
Anyone with a top TE looking for some depth? I'd package Santana Moss + Tony Scheffler for one of the top 5 TE's...
264Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 18:44
I went ahead and added the Draft Recap Thread.

It was popular last year.
265Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 18:57
Looks like all drafted players are on the teams now. There are two illegal teams: Twarpy needs a IDP and Cards needs a DL. Two other teams may add another player via WW/FA/Trade (CT/Toral) but they are not illegal.
266Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 19:05
Nuked these from rules:

XIV 2008 Traded Draft Picks:

8-21 Doug gets GO's 3rd rounder for his 6th (Winfield)
8-24 PD gets GO's highest 2nd round pick. GO gets PD's highest first rounder. (Frye and 07 picks)
9-8 Slizz gets Ref's 3rd rounder for his 8th (Favre/Bell)
10-14 ds' Eagles get Dougs 1st for his 4th rounder. (VY/AJ).
11-2 SW Chiefs get GO's Jets 1st Round pick for his 1st Round Pick. (S. Moss,Coleman/Porter,Freeny, Fargas)
11-9 GO acquires Toral's 2nd rounder for his 8th. (Cutler et al/Brees, KJ et al)
11-27 Twarpys Giants receives StL Cards' 49ers second rounder for his fifth rounder (Colts D)
11-27 SW's Chiefs receives Ref's Colts 2nd rounder for his 4th (Fargas/Rhodes)
11-27 Slizz Bills get CT's Cardinals 1st rounder (Grant/White-Branch)
12-1 Twarpy's Giants receive bj21 1st rounder for his 6th (K.Smith/R.Williams)
7-23 GO's Jets receive Toral's 1st and 5th rounder for his 1st and 7th rounder (P.Thomas,09 picks/Wolfe,09 picks)
8-18 Bengals Recieve picks 1.10 and 3.01; Chiefs receive picks 1.18 and 2.18
8-18 Bills get 4.05 from Bears for 11.15
267Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 31, 2008, 17:10
Waivers have been turned on and we have started our regular season. Discussion has been moved back to the football forum g24 thread.
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