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Subject: RIFC 2009 AAA #1 Getting started

Posted by: judy - [597401015] Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 13:47

Hi everyone,

Please sign up here to join Judy's RIFC AAA league. We'll also do
all the draft order, etc., stuff here as well when the time is ripe.

judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 13:53

According the the original signup thread, we have the following
managers (8) already:

me
mjd
ref
loki
davepyro
deepsnapper
donkey hunter
slowhand

toral is on the wait list

judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 13:58

Which site do you prefer??

FanBall or MyFantasyLeague?

Right now I am leaning to Fanball but only because we used it last year.
I would only consider MFL if GURU also uses it for the Big Boys so I
would have someone to help me with any issues that might arise.

Wolfer is going to use Fantrax for the other AAA (he has used it before)
-- if you prefer to go with that site, it is OK, just let me know.

judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 14:38

We'll be using Kafenatid for drafting.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 16:10

I would like to be in your league.

judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 16:28

I set up a league in MFL and it does look doable, but only if I have a
partner in crime -- the RIFC league -- just to make sure of some
of the tricky rule wordings esp for the waiver stuff. The rest looks like
FanBall with a few nice extra features about top players etc.

So cast your vote:

A) FanBall
B) MyFantasyLeague
C) Don't care.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 16:41

I would like to join your league.

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 18:25

I would like to join your AAA Judy. I think MFL will be better than Fantrax. Fantrax looks good overall except for the fact that I'm not seeing an option for double-headers (maybe it's there, but I'm not seeing it).

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 19:51

MFL looks very doable. Worked on it for a few hours today. I can't make it as
fancy as Culdeus's, but it will do what it is supposed to do.

I am willing to try it.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 19:52

electro and holt -- emails please!

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 19:54

here ya go

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 21:13

here it is

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 23:13

C) Don't care.

Fanball was OK the last few years. It had its drawbacks, but no major problems.

I don't know anything about MFL, but I am willing to give it a try if others think it has better features.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 09:16

(B)MFL.com: I have had no problems with Fanball, but if it is not more work for Judy, I would like to try the new site. I do not think it will be worse, and we may find it better.

Building 7
ID: 126371618
Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 09:29

I'll join Judy's AAA league for the 3rd year, unless its fanball. Then I'll go to the other AAA.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 14:30

C.

I am going to be traveling on the 20th and 21st of August, but should have access in the evening. I will make sure that I don't hold up the draft.

Da Bomb
ID: 06512514
Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 15:51

I will join this league.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 23:20

By my count, we need one more manager...

I've set up a league in MFL and I think it will work just fine. I'll be sending the scoring
settings to GURU for confirmation.

I'll send out invitations this week once we are all here so you can take a look at it. It does
have some nice customizable options for our home page that I played with. I think you
can customize the look of your own team page as well. I will be interested to hear what
you think about how it all looks... and what can be done to make it even better!!

E-man, not to worry about the dates. It'll work out.

twilson
ID: 266581621
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 01:25

I'll go ahead and grab the last spot. There can never be too many Eagles fans!

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 12:02

Re: 18-Giants fans might argue with that.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 16:52

So, here we are in alphabetical order by RIFC "handle". We'll use this order for any listing
stuff we need to do:

Building 7 (B7)
Da Bomb
davepyro
deepsnapper
Donkey Hunter
Electroman
holt
judy
loki
mjd
ref
slowhand
TD
twilson

If you already know your team name, post it here. If you have a different owner name,
post that too. And while you are at it, post your Kafenatid name!
It really gets confusing. I'll email the list when it gets finalized!

Judy (RIFC handle)= GhostWood (team) = Judy (kafenatid and owner name))

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 16:53

If you want to keep any of #20 private, just send me an email.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 18:06

Electroman in both RIFC and Kafenatid: Electro Eagles

twilson
ID: 346552721
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 22:55

RE: 19 My primarily Giants-favoring home league definitely agrees with that statement. Being in a league with both Judy and Electro (and others maybe?) is a nice change of pace.

Owner: twilson
Kafe: twilson
Team: twilson's Milchian Magicians

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 22:58

RIFC handle-loki

Kafenatid-loki

Team name-NY Titans

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 23:17

anything with mjd is me.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 21:15

Team Name: TD Dragons
Kafenatid: TD

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 22:27

Sad news, I just saw the Jim Johnson died today.

davepyro
ID: 231154823
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 23:01

RIFC handle: davepyro
draft handle: davepyro
Team name: Thunder Bunnies

I do not care about draft site as you guys know the options better. Please note my email address. Any ideas when I need to start paying attention?

judy
ID: 48642817
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 23:31

Stupid me -- I named our league RIBC! Of course it should
be RIFC -- on iPhone now -- will fix tomorrow...

Thanks to davepyto for noticing!

judy
ID: 48642817
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 23:33

Very sad about Jim -- melanoma is a very bad cancer.
Hopefully you are all using sunscreen.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 06:35

judy - I played in a MFL 12 team league last year and the waiver wire is kind of goofy. You have all the players in a box on the left by position in alpa order and you have to find the free agents you want & move them to another box on the right. After you've selected who you want with your 1st round WW pickk depending on your WW position, (might be 14 players in our queue). You have to repeat the process for each round of the WW if you want to try for multiple players. It was a real pain in the place where the sun don't shine due to the time it took. And if you forgot to save - you have to start over on that round!

Other than that, the live stats worked and we played doubleheaders. They have realtime texting when you sign in to the site similar to yahoo so you can chat and also a message board. Their draft blows as it didn't send reminders or allow for surrogates. Never could get the handle of the trade mechanism, but as it turned out, I didn't need it. ;)

I'm deepsnapper on Kafenatid, Fanball, and MFL.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 06:38

[27] I saw that this morning. Spinal cancer is really painful and difficult to treat. My prayers to his family. (from a lifelong Cowboys fan)

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 20:33

Kafenatid invites to go out Sunday night/ Monday am.

I need a volunteer to crunch the random numbers stuff for the draft order picking
process!

twilson
ID: 266581621
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 01:24

I'm willing to accept the two sets of random numbers from 1-14. If Judy gives the OK, send them to the email address attached to this post.

A couple of things I noticed while glancing through the scoring rules:

In the Offensive Points Against section, the values for which 7 points are rewarded should be 1-6 rather than 0-6. Otherwise, a shutout will be worth 17 points.

I don't remember 60+ yard FGs being treated differently than 50-59 yard FGs. I don't really care about this, as it will happen at most twice during the season, but I thought I should mention it.

The rest looked good to me during my cursory check.

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 01:39

holt on kafenatid, holt something on MFL (still need to register there).

random numbers sent to twilson.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 07:36

I also sent random numbers.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 09:53

Re:36-Are you referring to the RIFC rules? I am not sure if they finalized them yet, but usually the AAAs and AA leagues follow them.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 11:07

Twilson -- thanks for volunteering -- looks like you should have the two sets by now. Show the work
in the thread, please. Thanks T for also looking over the rules.

I applied for the Kafenatid draft and will send out invites when I hear back.

re #36:
oops on the 0-6 -- I'll fix that
re 60+ FG I added that to see if RIFC wanted to do that also -- it was not in the rules last year,
but I put it there to see if anyone wanted it?? I thought someone kicked one last year so I stuck it in
to see if we would be adding it...

DIscussions re rule changes are ongoing and only in the beginning stages in the main RIFC thread.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 13:11

T and holt -- I just noticed the time clock.

Are you guys West Coasters?

twilson
ID: 346552721
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 13:48

Here is the draft order. Holt sent me two sets of numbers, so I used the first.

Alphabetical	Holt's #s	Reorder #1	Electroman's #s	Reorder #2	FINAL ORDER
Building 7 (B7)	2	Donkey Hunter	7	loki	1
Da Bomb	3	Building 7 (B7)	12	judy	2
davepyro	10	Da Bomb	4	twilson	3
deepsnapper	7	ref	9	Da Bomb	4
Donkey Hunter	1	loki	1	slowhand	5
Electroman	9	slowhand	5	TD	6
holt	13	deepsnapper	10	Donkey Hunter	7
judy	11	twilson	3	Electroman	8
loki	5	Electroman	8	ref	9
mjd	14	davepyro	14	deepsnapper	10
ref	4	judy	2	holt	11
slowhand	6	TD	6	Building 7 (B7)	12
TD	12	holt	11	mjd	13
twilson	8	mjd	13	davepyro	14

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 14:06

Thanks T

Note that this is the draft slot PICKING order, NOT the draft order. So you
get to choose your draft slot number. Put your name in where you want it and copy
paste the whole list into your post for the next person.

LOKI's up

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 16:46

Any thoughts on when we should start the draft?

I propose we start the draft on Saturday Aug. 15th without a clock. We probably won't need to turn on the clock with the experienced group of managers we have in this league. It shouldn't take more than two weeks to complete the draft, so we should be done by Aug. 29th. The NFL season starts on September 10th which gives us plenty of time for waivers/etc.

I prefer not starting the draft any earlier than that.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 16:54

I'd prefer to start as late as possible with a short as clock as possible.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 17:13

I think that around the 15th would be a good idea. Like I posted earlier, I am on the road the 21st and 22nd, so I would like to have the early rounds done personally rather than relying on DP's.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:12

I just got home and will enter my pick now. My only other experience with the first draft pick was the season Shawn Alexander broke his foot, missed the 1st 4-6 games, and was ineffectual for the remainder of the season.I will also be travelling in August, 8/19-8/23, so starting the draft on 8/15 would be better for me.I think that the 1st week of the draft should be without a clock, then move to a 6 hour clock, and decrease the clock if necessary. We also need to decide on whether the clock should stop on weekends. For me that would be easier as I do not know what my internet access will be on 8/22-8/23.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:14

1. loki

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:40

1. loki
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Judy
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

If you have time, do send an email to the next person in line -- most of the email
addresses are in this thread.. I'll email everyone with an progress report at bed time
tonight.

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:47

re 41, I live in Oklahoma, and I like to stay up late.

twilson
ID: 266581621
Sat, Aug 01, 2009, 19:30

Thought about a few other slots, but eventually had to go with 2nd.

1. loki
2. twilson
3.
4.
5.
6. Judy
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

davepyro
ID: 2572120
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 01:22

My computer is in shop (needs power supply, and has to be ordered), and I am prevented from accessing league site, any email sites, and rotoguru sites at work (government computer). So far I can access Kafe draft site from work. Judy has my phone numbers, and I will try very hard not to slow things down. I am using my daughters tiny laptop for this, and she will kill me when she finds out. Obviously, I will take the last available draft slot so no hold up there. I am in Pacific time zone and stay up late.
When draft positions are known I want to know what time zones are next to me.
Good luck everyone.

Da Bomb
ID: 477712
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 01:54

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4.
5.
6. Judy
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

holt
ID: 206331521
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 02:53

going camping in the morning. will be back tuesday evening.

judy
ID: 9729212
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 15:35

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki (?)
CDT: holt
MDT:
PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 18:09

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki

CDT: holt

MDT:

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

(Copied from Judy)

Slowhand
ID: 354911
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 18:59

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki

CDT: holt

MDT: Slowhand

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

Draft Order

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4.
5.
6. Judy
7.Slowhand
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Slowhand
ID: 354911
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 19:03

I emailed TD. Good luck to everyone this year.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 19:13

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki, Electroman

CDT: holt

MDT: Slowhand

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 20:02

glad to see I am not the only one who likes a middle draft slot!

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 22:18

Draft Order

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4. TD
5.
6. Judy
7.Slowhand
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 22:22

I did not email Donkey Hunter that he is next because I don't have his email.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 23:18

email sent to next four in line -- holt is #5, camping until Tues eve. (#55)

Donkey Hunter
ID: 176401922
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 23:32

Draft Order

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4. TD
5. Donkey Hunter
6. Judy
7.Slowhand
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 07:43

Draft Order

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4. TD
5. Donkey Hunter
6. Judy
7. Slowhand
8. Electroman
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 08:50

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki, Electroman, Donkey Hunter

CDT: holt

MDT: Slowhand

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are
asleep or not!

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 09:12

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki, Electroman

CDT: holt,
Dallas time: deepsnapper

MDT: Slowhand

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 09:40

You texans!

Went to New Zealand and ate at a (tourist) Maori feast and the MC asked what
country we were from and a dude in a cowboy hat stood up and said "Texas".

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 10:21

Draft Order

1. loki
2. twilson
3. Da Bomb
4. TD
5. Donkey Hunter
6. Judy
7. Slowhand
8. Electroman
9. Ref
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

TZ: ET

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 10:43

Draft Order

01. loki
02. twilson
03. Da Bomb
04 TD
05. Donkey Hunter
06. Judy
07. Slowhand
08. Electroman
09. Ref
10. deepsnappper
11.
12.
13.
14.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 10:44

TIME ZONE UPDATE:

EDT: Judy, TD, mjd, loki, Electroman, Ref

CDT: holt,
Dallas time: deepsnapper

MDT: Slowhand

PDT: davepyro

Other:

please add yours -- it will help with the draft knowing if you are asleep or not!

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 11:34

I'm in College Station, CDT.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 13:35

holt is up next. He'll be back Tuesday night.

davepyro and ref still need to sign in to kafenatid

it looks like ref and donkey hunter need to sign into MFL to "personalize" their teams

Any more thoughts on draft dates?

I think I am hearing to start on August 15th and to do the draft untimed for as long as we can. I
can turn it on earlier esp if the top coupla pickers know who they want already (barring injury).

My goal would be to be finished by Tuesday Aug 31.

Possible access conflicts so far are (Anyone else?):
Electro: F/S August 21/22
loki: W - Su August 19-23 (esp 22/23)

SO if we could get in 1.5 to 2 rounds per day, we'd be at round 8 or so when loki leaves...I am
always available by phone to help out... I'd put it into an email -- not here.

Anyone remember the the FA drop/add/waiver rules once the draft is completed? Is it FCFS or a
waiver wire order (reverse draft order, drop to bottom of list) for a few days -- how long? It was
special set up that was later changed once the season began in, so I do not have a print out of it.
I can set start/stop "windows" for this in MFL. AS I recall, there are not a lot of moves.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 13:58

Judy-I only have potential problems, and if the hotel and airports have WiFi, and if can have your cell phone number, I should be OK.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 14:30

if you have an iPhone (and probably some of the others with web
access) you can draft directly off Kafenatid with it.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 15:11

No iPhone, no Blackberry, no Pre.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 15:54

bummer -- looks like it's WiFi or the cell phone...

judy
ID: 48642817
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 18:28

Ack. Eagles MLB and signal caller Bradley out for season
with ACL

we know have a problem...

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 21:06

Re:75 The 15th is good with me; I think untimed is okay (most of us have drafted together before and are pretty attentive) unless we start to get pressed for time.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 10:51

Rules change back. I took off the 6 pts for 60+ FG made. As per GURU, there are
no new rules for this year. I believe the rest of the scoring rules to be correct.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 14:03

We should draft as late as possible, as the injury bug is biting
already this year. Big money has ruined all sports in general and
turned all athletes into a bunch of babies.

Plus Judy runs a pretty tight ship. No need to finish too early.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 18:08

August 15 is fine with me, although the next week would be better. If we start the following week, I would ask to begin on Monday instead of Saturday.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 18:26

Anybody know how to fix this thread so only the last 50 entries show? It is on
some of the other threads. Is this something only GURU can do?

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 20:34

[85] That's a Guru thing or I don't know the command to do it as a Moderator.

[84] Agreed, we could start off the clock over the weekend and start clocking on Monday. I doubt if anyone will really have that difficult a choice when it comes to their first pick or two. It's the last 10-15 that take up al my time. lol

[75] waiver wire order (reverse draft order, drop to bottom of list) - with each WW round.

That's my understanding how it works until the WW pickups end before the playoffs.

My cell's posted on the MFL website and I have unlimited continental US minutes so I can take queues other than Ref's even rounds (lol)

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 21:19

Re:85-There was a time when only the most recent 50 or so posts showed and you clicked on something to see the older posts. That was changed.

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 22:04

Guru changed that in the forums where slow drafts get done.
The issue was if you did a search, it was only checking the 50 most current messages.
Was really creating havoc with slow drafts.

Cliff

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 22:11

I htink when a thread gets so long only the last 50 threads are shown unless you click on it to show all.

My roster name is set. Apparently I was just on as a guest when I thought I was logged on.

Draft. We fly with our draft. I'd rather it be done after the 2nd week of preseason. Remember, the season starts a week later this year. Let's not be in a hurry to draft and make some bad picks due to injuries etc with our early picks then have 10 days or more after the draft before we can think about the season. Make the draft mean something--even at the end instead of having all that time to be the first to the computer to pick up FAs as we find out news.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 23:09

I just checked the preseason schedule for the Eagles and their second PS game is Thursday August
22. I did not realize it was so late!

If we start the draft on the 15th, only one PS game will have been played. Is that enough time to
evaluate mid rounders?

So what about starting the draft on Monday the 24th? I can turn the draft on Sunday night the
23rd. Loki is first up coming off a vacation. Unless he is ready to pick earlier... in which case I
would turn it on sooner. I think we can try untimed for the first week.

I think we can finish it in under two weeks. The goal would be to be finished by the Friday of Labor
Day; freeze players for 2 days and then go to the waiver wire for pick ups until 1:00 weds when the
FCFS FA pick ups would start.

Chime in with your thoughts!

holt
ID: 3175251
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 02:52

Draft Order

01. loki
02. twilson
03. Da Bomb
04 TD
05. Donkey Hunter
06. Judy
07. Slowhand
08. Electroman
09. Ref
10. deepsnappper
11. holt
12.
13.
14.

Building 7
ID: 126371618
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 08:08

01. loki
02. twilson
03. Da Bomb
04 TD
05. Donkey Hunter
06. Judy
07. Slowhand
08. Electroman
09. Ref
10. deepsnappper
11. holt
12. Building 7
13.
14.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 10:36

01. loki
02. twilson
03. Da Bomb
04 TD
05. Donkey Hunter
06. Judy
07. Slowhand
08. Electroman
09. Ref
10. deepsnappper
11. holt
12. Building 7
13. mjd
14.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 11:21

Somebody usually picks that end spot earlier. Not this year.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 11:44

That's the first time I've seen the 14 selector get the 14th pick. That's bizarre.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 11:49

I say the later we start the draft, the better.

Anyone with time constraint issues should have taken the
remaining end slot to make drafting easier on themselves.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 12:30

Judy - you asked me to hide all but the 50 most recent replies - as is the custom for most forum threads.

The system is currently set to exclude that feature for the various "leagues & standings" forums, since those threads often contain draft picks, or votes, or other items that make the hidden feature somewhat of a nuisance.

That's why it isn't active for this thread.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 14:01

OK -- thanks Guru -- makes sense.

UPDATE:
We are all signed into Kafenatid and the draft order is set so we can start whenever...
looks like later is preferred... chime in!

Donkey still needs to sign into MFL and set up his team name...

time zones for twilson and daBomb?

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 15:06

I am for starting the draft as late as possible. As long as Judy is comfortable that we will complete it on time.

100

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 22:18

I'm EDT.

I am also in favor of starting the draft as late as possible.

101

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 10:09

The later the better as far as I'm concerned. With the season starting a week later, it only makes sense (to me).

102

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 12:18

Everyone seems to say as late as possible, when is that? 22nd? Week of the 17th?

103

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 12:22

DRAFT START DATE PROPOSAL:

I turn it on at bedtime (~11 pm EDT) Sunday 23 with no clock. Loki has the first pick. If
he is ready earlier, I can start it then.

Beginning Monday, August 24, we agree to do at least 2 rounds per day (including the
weekends) -- that would have us finish on Sept 3, the Friday before Labor Day.

If we get behind by more than one round per day, the clock goes on at a 4 hour
limit with a pause midnight EDT to 6 am EDT. No weekend pause. (Kafenatid will
email you about any change.)

Any thoughts? It is a tight schedule, but I do have confidence that we can manage it.

104

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 12:35

Sounds good to me Judy...

105

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 12:37

Sounds good.

106

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 18:01

Judy's proposed schedule sounds good to me.

107

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 22:11

I also like starting on Sunday 8/23 PM. This way I could see that my #1 pick isn't injured in that day's preseason game. I think that I am still feeling the after effects of drafting Tom Brady in last year's 1st round.

109

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 22:33

Sounds like a plan. Apparently there are no pre season games on the 23rd (? I read that
in another post), so we'll turn it on whenever Loki tells me he is ready!

110

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 22:52

I have no problem with the 23rd or the clock if we fall behind. OTC works for me when the clcok's tight anyway.

111

twilson
ID: 266581621
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 00:49

Time zone: EDT

112

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 01:08

23th is a good start time for me.

Judy will surely flog us to finish on time. D::

113

Donkey Hunter
ID: 176401922
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 11:54

I signed in at MFL.

I am fine with whatever drafting schedule.

114

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 12:56

Time slots are all in. Everyone is checked into MFL and Kafe. Thanks.

EDT: Judy, TD. mjd, loki, twilson, electro, donkey, ref, da Bomb
CDT: holt, Dsnapp, B7
MDT: slow
PDT: dave

I am generally up 'til midnight so I can harass/"flog" the non EDT folks. I have contact
info for Dave if his home computer is still on the fritz on the 23rd.

It looks like there are no other vacation or internet access issues.

So now, we just wait, and wait, and wait... and do our research and hope the picks we
want do not get injured and are still there when it is our turn!

When I turn the draft on, I'll start a new draft communication thread so we can
keep each other up to speed on when we're picking, out to dinner, in a meeting for 2
hours, still thinking, what round to use the Q for, etc. -- plus moans and woes about
people "snatching" other's players!

Keeping everyone in the loop is essential for our finishing on time and keeping everyone
happy. It would be really cool to draft without using the clock! Something special to
brag about!

Last year we did the draft rationales (required!!) in groups of 5 (#1-5, #6-10, etc). I
think it made it easier, so that's what I recommend for this year. Then a couple of us
moderator types will put them into a nice orderly thread for you to read!

115

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 08:53

Judy -one question. Can u open up MFL and allow us to pick up our players as they're drafted? That way MFL can be used as a "player database" to pick from available players who haven't been drafted.

I don't know if everyone uses a separate system to track players and we'll already have our teams populated with players when the draft is over.

We picked up our players last year in MFL league, but we used their slow live draft system.

116

judy
ID: 48642817
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 10:51

I think I can do it by opening waivers -- my Internet is down
now. -- working off iPhone -- will try later.

117

judy
ID: 48642817
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 10:53

Also kafenatid has an alphabetical list -- I think it is under
draft peek.

118

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 23:54

I will probably start Kafenatid on Saturday the 22nd in the early afternoon so that people can begin to
work on their first round Q's. I'll also email you a reminder as it gets closer.

This is really hard to be all set with the logistics and to have to wait for so long to draft -- and to see
who is getting injured... I feel like I am twiddling my thumbs!

119

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 11:16

I am as anxious as everyone else to begin the draft, but picking AP #1 is not a given, and I am giving serious consideration to MJD. JAX plays Saturday night, and I need to see how MJD comes out of this game before making a decision. I will try to make my pick Sunday AM, but with my travel plans, I may not be able to do so until the evening. Thank you all for your patience.

120

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 13:47

There IS a preseason game Monday the 24th: NYJ vs BALT.

There are NONE on Sunday the 23rd. Weird.

Thanks, Loki, for the update and good luck with your choice!

121

Donkey Hunter
ID: 176401922
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 18:00

Who's AP? You mean AD?

122

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 21:45

AP is in Minnesota, who is AD?

123

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 22:25

Angelo Dundee.

124

Donkey Hunter
ID: 176401922
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 00:24

All Day

125

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 06:54

My cheat sheets must be out of date.

126

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 12:17

Up to date scoring rules are now posted in the RIFC big boys
thread (and on our website). We match.

127

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 21:35

Thank-you all for your patience while my computer was in shop for 2 weeks. 73 messages since my last one, but reading them all was the first thing I did on Internet. Everything looks fine by me. Anything else I need to do?
Thanks Judy for keeping me posted with all the happenings. Please anyone email me if you want to as I can now reply. I will also provide phone numbers to any league member who would like them. Or Judy can provide. Good luck everyone.

128

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 22:32

Re: Judy's email-I believe that only tackles by defensive players counted in the stats.

129

twilson
ID: 266581621
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 02:14

I'm pretty sure that special teams tackles have always counted for IDPs. Loki is right that we don't want offensive players to get credit for any tackles they may make, but this can be prevented by limiting the positions for which tackles get scored to DL, LB, and DB. In fact, this is already what our rules specify.

As for tackles not being an official stat, that means they are not validated by the NFL. As such, I doubt you will see them listed in an official NFL setting like the Hall of Fame. Another example of this is sacks prior to 1982. Some teams kept track of them before that, but they were not official and thus cannot be included in career sack totals, even if they were accurate. Please feel free to correct/clarify if I am wrong, as I'm mostly speaking off the top of my head.

130

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 15:13

With 14 teams and 24 rounds I think that it is probable that someone will not be able to make a pick for reasons that are out of his/her control. Because of this, I think that we should begin with a 6 hour "emergency" clock.

131

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 17:38

As I emailed, only tackle stats get counted for defense. Not ST or offense, etc.

132

wolfer
ID: 33712321
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 17:22

Judy,

Did you get a chance to forward my email?

133

Donkey Hunter
ID: 176401922
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 20:01

I will probably be interested in trading down from #5 in the first round. Email if interested.

134

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 20:52

I believe that I have set up the MFL site so that you can add your drafted players to your own lineup.
We will try it and see what happens. The goal is to keep the MFL player list up to date although
Kafenatid does that nicely, so it really is a double effort and not really needed until the very end.

As you look through and set up your own home page design, please feel free to comment on what I
did -- what should be deleted or added?

135

wolfer
ID: 33712321
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 22:01

Guys,

Just a heads up. Judy will be sending you information on a "set it and forget it" league that I created here. The rules are simple. Once you set your roster, you do not make any changes to it at all.

136

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 13:58

The Big Boys at RIFC have started pickin'.

Go to the Kafenatid draft peek option to see their choices.

Remember -- no comments on players til 2 rounds after WE draft them.

137

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 18:47

All comments now go in the Draft Communication Thread. Would
some one make a nice link for us? Safari will not let me.

Thanks.

Less than 15 hours to start time!!

138

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:10

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