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Subject: RIFC AA#1 Getting Started
Posted by: Toral
- [4155487] Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 16:57
You may sign in here to join RIFC AA League.
It will be played on fantrax.com. You will need to create an account there. The draft will be conducted on kafenatid.net. You will need an account there.
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| 1 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 17:01
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Players already signed up:
art's in the Hall
coldwater coyotes
russelldl
Taxman
Toral
VP
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| 2 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 19:30
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I would like to play, please.
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| 3 | Count me in
ID: 34755119
Sat, Aug 01, 2009, 20:55
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Any chance to kick some Texas A$$ and I am in!
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| 4 | DHamm
ID: 591552817
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 14:53
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Count me in
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| 5 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 15:03
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dpr is also signed up from the QL thread.
I need e-mails for Motley Crue and D Hamm.
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| 6 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 21:05
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dhamm6500@msn.com
Although a good friend and a nice guy, Dave is not the brightest light on the tree
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| 7 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 06:23
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Thanx. I have Motley Crue's email.
Need a few more but we have way over a week before we have to start drafting so it's not time to panic.
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| 8 | russelldl
ID: 1890298
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 12:36
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You might want to ask Guru to mention this thread in the daily blurb. That would probably fill out the last few spots.
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| 9 | Peter N.
ID: 19721419
Sat, Aug 08, 2009, 11:15
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I'm in.
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| 10 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Sun, Aug 09, 2009, 06:55
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I'll play
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| 11 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Sun, Aug 09, 2009, 22:45
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12 in..Two to go, I count:
art's in the Hall
coldwater coyotes
russelldl
Taxman
Toral
VP
Motley Crue
gute aka Count me in
Dhamm
dpr
Peter N.
Bearclaw
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| 12 | Footwedge
ID: 42756106
Mon, Aug 10, 2009, 07:56
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I'm in
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| 13 | I Hate Philadelphia
ID: 4472468
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 08:37
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in
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| 14 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 11:02
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1. We're up to 14. So, later today I will start sending out passwords and start the draft2 process (drafting of draft positions). (I entered half the scoring system in our fantrax league yesterday, had to do something else, thot I had saved it, and came back and found it had all vanished. Bummer.) I'll probably do the draft2 very soon.
2. Footwedge, I need an e-mail for you.
3. If someone happens along and is interested in playing, feel free to leave your name as a "back-up". It's been a while since some of our players first indicated interest, and it's possible that when I go to round up our 14 not all will respond.
Toral
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| 15 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 11:07
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Our 14 players:
art's in the Hall
Bearclaw
coldwater coyotes
Count me in
Dhamm
dpr
Footwedge
I Hate Philadelphia
Motley Crue
Peter N.
russelldl
Taxman
Toral
VP
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| 16 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 11:13
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We can now start our draftsquared process. I will randomize the above list using the first two sets of random numbers from 1-14 that I receive at the e-mail address indicated.
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| 17 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 11:46
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I also need e-mail addys for
coldwater coyotes
I Hate Philadelphia
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| 18 | art's in the hall
ID: 227201113
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 14:20
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i am registered on kafenatid.
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| 19 | Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 17:02
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I got a buddy who would be interested, he checed in too late.
roger.judd@rbcdexia.com
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| 20 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 18:45
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Here's a randomizer, guys. Any two players in the league, create a set of 14 randomized numbers and send them ro me and we're off.
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| 21 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 19:29
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Motley Crue sent me this set of numbers:
13, 1, 14, 7, 5, 12, 3, 4, 10, 11, 8, 9, 2, 6
while art's in the hall sent me this set:
2, 13, 8, 9, 6, 4, 11, 12, 3, 10, 5, 14, 1, 7
producing this order of selection of draft position:
1. art's in the hall
2. Bearclaw
3. Taxman
4. VP
5. Peter N.
6. Dhamm
7. coldwater coyotes
8. Footwedge
9. I Hate Philadelphia
10. Motley Crue
11. Count me in
12. russelldl
13. Toral
14. dpr
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| 22 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 19:35
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Off we go with the selection of draft choices. No clock unless things really start to drag. art's in the hall, indicate your choice beside the numbers 1 to 14 and post it. Bearclaw should then copy and paste the whole set of draft positions, add his name in his preferred position, and post it. And so on.
This is a snake draft.
If you have the time and can find the e-mail of the guy picking after you, you might let him know he's up.
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art's in the hall is up.
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| 23 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 10:43
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email: will@newmarketcap.com
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| 24 | Peter N.
ID: 07361210
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 11:36
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Good luck to all. Come on "art's in the hall." Let's get the show on the road.
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| 25 | art's in the hall
ID: 457451210
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 11:45
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Sorry I wasn't really prepared for to make this decison, but I hope I can't go wrong with the 1st pick.
1 Art's in the Hall
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| 26 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 11:58
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1. We're off. I've e-mailed Bearclaw to let him know he's up.
2. I still have no e-mail for Footwedge. If we haven't heard from him by the time we get to #8, I will give him 24 hours to appear before offering his place to our back-up player.
3. I like puzzles but I sometimes make mistakes so would the people with the following Kafenatid handles please post and associate them with their Rotoguru handle:
thepwa
drussell743
Gutezr71
chad1978
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| 27 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 19:27
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The general rules for the league may be found here: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/foot/5101.shtml at post 1. We can adopt our own rules as to time of starting draft, clock, pause periods, etc.
I'll start a discussion of draft start periods tomorrow, but if there are any times of unavailabilty/weak access, you can mention them now. Most likely we'll start somewhere in the period of Aug. 17-22.
Toral
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| 28 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 21:04
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Next!
1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
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14
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| 29 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 21:13
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I'm chad1978 on rotoguru.
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| 30 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 21:24
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Good. I have an e-mail for Footwedge now. From here on it's all crumpets and jam.
If you've figured out your tactics and know your pick preferences and are waiting for the guyz behind you, you can e-mail me your preferences (e.g., "I like positions 4, 7, 3, 10, 9, in that order") and I will pick for you if I see that you're up before you do. I'm 13th so telling me your strategy won't matter :(
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| 31 | dpr
ID: 43622222
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 23:01
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I am drussell743 on kafenatid.
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| 32 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 07:29
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Taxman is up.
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| 33 | russelldl
ID: 1890298
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 11:30
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I'm going to be out of town the weekend of the 22nd but I'm working to make sure I'll have access. I'll keep you updated. Shouldn't be a problem.
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| 34 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 13:03
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Next!
1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
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| 35 | Peter N.
ID: 07361210
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 13:51
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I'll take the highest pick available after VP picks. Once VP picks, anyone can go ahead and put my name on the next highest slot(either #4 or #5)
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| 36 | Footwedge
ID: 28055812
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 15:16
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I'll take the highest available when my turn comes. (#4-#8) I've never drafted higher than 12th. I'm excited to see what a top ten pick can do. I probably just put an injury curse on someone.
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| 37 | VP.
ID: 7335210
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 15:23
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1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
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14
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| 38 | DHamm
ID: 177391317
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 18:40
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1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
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14
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| 39 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 19:44
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#7
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| 40 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 19:54
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post 39 restated:
1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
7 coldwater coyotes
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| 41 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 19:59
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Per post 36
1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
7 coldwater coyotes
8 Footwedge
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I Hate Philadelphia is up.
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| 42 | Footwedge
ID: 42756106
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 07:42
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Thanks
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| 43 | IHP
ID: 222182212
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 08:13
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1 Art's in the Hall2 Bear Claw3 Taxman4 VP5 Peter N6 thepwa/DHamm7 coldwater coyotes8 Footwedge910 I Hate Philadelphia11121314
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| 44 | IHP
ID: 222182212
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 08:14
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Hmm that didn't post right. I want pick 10, if someone can post it right.
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| 46 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 10:08
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1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
7 coldwater coyotes
8 Footwedge
9 Mötley Crüe
10 IHP
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14
I got the 9th pick.
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| 47 | Three and Out
ID: 447561410
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 11:56
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1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
7 coldwater coyotes
8 Footwedge
9 Mötley Crüe
10 IHP
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12
13
14 Three and Out
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| 48 | Three and Out
ID: 447561410
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 11:58
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uh... I may be wrong, but is my team name VP or did I not make the final cut...
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| 49 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 11:58
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russeld is up.
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| 50 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 12:06
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Your designation on this list was Count Me In (see post 3) Three and Out is fine as long as I know who you are.
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| 51 | Three and Out
ID: 447561410
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 12:22
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Great. The Three and Out moniker goes back a ways. Glad to see that I made it in!
Gute
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| 52 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 12:33
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Here's when the other leagues are starting their drafts as far as they can figure out.
RIFC Thursday, Aug. 20
AAA#1 Monday, Aug. 24
AAA#2 Monday, Aug. 24
So I suggest for us...Monday, Aug. 24.
The draft will be opened on Kafenatid sometime over the weekend so that people can work on queues and pick if they want.
For the first round only I propose a long 8-hour clock. The purpose of the long first round clock is to make sure everyone is around and awake and knows the draft has started. I'm tempted to start with no clock but my experience has been that someone usually abuses that. My hope is that everyone has their first round queue pretty much done by draftstart so round 1 goes rather quickly.
The pre-season game is Jets vs Baltimore...which shouldn't cause anyone to want to wait to see its result before making their first round pick.
On the morning of the day after the second round has started, the clock will be shortened.
Question: do people prefer a 4-hour clock or 6-hour clock? I have found that drafts work better with 4 hours. With 6 hours things lag and people start getting into the habit of not checking in regularly. But I'd like to hear what you think.
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| 53 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:31
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russelldl takes #11 (via e-mail)
I take #12
leaving #13 for dpr
1 Art's in the Hall
2 Bear Claw
3 Taxman
4 VP
5 Peter N
6 thepwa/DHamm
7 coldwater coyotes
8 Footwedge
9 Mötley Crüe
10 IHP
11 russelldl
12 Toral
13 dpr
14 Three and Out
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| 54 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:39
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One of the more exciting drafts of drsft position I've seen, involving much complex startegy ;)
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| 55 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 18:08
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Toral...I vote for 4 hour clock. You right that the shorter "clock" keeps people more actively involved in the draft, hence less wasted time on managers failing to leave a queue or make arrangements to get their selection made timely.
I am out of town with limited computer access Sunday the 23rd through night of Tuesday the 25th.
I can leave a queue for 1st round (no problem with 3rd pick...problem will be 2nd and 3rd round picks (assuming this group is an "on the toes" bunch of drafters). I'm not to fond of leaving a 27 player queue.
If someone is willing to work over the phone with me on who has been drafted, OTC allows me to select a DP with "free form" selection rights to make selections based on our conversations in my absence.
Please e.mail me your phone info if available to help. Do not post it here.
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| 56 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 18:13
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I'm fine with 4 hours as long as the site's queue system is self explanatory. I agree with taxman that I don't like having a huge queue.
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| 57 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 18:40
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4 hours is my vote. I will have internet access any time, so no worries there.
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| 58 | dpr
ID: 43622222
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 19:12
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I will be flying cross country the morning of the 24th. I forget the details but likely will miss a portion of the first day of the clock. With a late pick, it likely wont be a problem, but if we get several picks in before the clock starts I could be holding things up. I will readdress the issue as we get closer, if needed.
If we go with 4 hours that is fine but there will be times when I will be away from the computer for that long and it is hard to leave a queue for two picks, which I would likely have to do drafting so close to the turn.
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| 59 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 19:57
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Everyone but I Hate Philadelphia has signed up for Kafenatid. As soon as he signs up I can set the Kafenatid draft order.
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| 60 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 20:00
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A handful of invitations to join the league at Fantrax have been sent out. I'll send out the rest once I'm sure the thing is working and people are able to sign up.
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| 61 | art's in the hall
ID: 25650279
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 22:08
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4 hours is great, but what hours is the clocking going to be running? Could we do a 6 hr clock after 6 or 8 depending on what the clock is not running?
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| 62 | I Hate Philadelphia
ID: 4472468
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 09:38
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I won't be able to join the league until Monday
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| 63 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 12:33
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1. Everyone has signed up for Kafenatid and I thank you.
2. Re deadlines etc.:
atih6 1. By the "after 6 or 8" comment, do you mean you find it easier to meet queue deadlines during the day but harder in the evening? Many people find it just the opposite, especially people who find it hard to pick while at work. I wouldn't have a longer clock in the evenings for sure. Is 4 hours in the evening so short that you would like a longer clock?
dpr: I would hope you could solve your at-the-end problems with "complex queues"/queues with instructions. That is, you could instruct, on this thread, "For my next picks, don't pick 2 players at the same position." or "Pick the top running back from my queue, then the highest player at any position." You can even, for any round, restrict your DPs to managers who have indicated that they have seen your instructions. (As commissioner I can pick for anyone, including free form picks.) If someone makes an pick ignoring a queue instruction, I can stop the draft and go back and make the correct pick.
Unfortunately I cancelled my phone plan with lots of free U.S. hours, so I invite someone to volunteer to step up and be willing to phone Taxman to update him on pix made etc. If you get the info you won't need to stick around till Taxman is up; you can e-mail the pick to me and probably other DPs to be made when the time comes.
Re the draft pause -- my inclination is to have the clock run from 8 A.M to midnite ET. We could change this an hour either way.
If you have a chance indicate your time zone. If there are lots of players with MT, PT or foreign time zones, we can look ar different hours.
To sum up, if you want a different clock or draft pause or time start, now is the time to speak up. Those who have already said something should reiterate their concerns if necessary.
Toral
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| 64 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 12:44
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Here is a cut-and-paste from the Kafenatid draft order page with proper names removed. If anything seems wrong, let me know as soon as possible. The draft order is theoretically unchangeable, but if there is a mistake Fred may be willing to correct it, provided that one of us chosen at random will first be executed.
1 ARTOFMONK
2 chad1978
3 Taxman Taxman
4 VP.
5 PeteN.
6 thepwa
7 coldwater coyotes
8 footwedge
9 Motley Crue
10 I hate Philadelphia
11 russelldl
12 Toral
13 drussell743
14 Gutezr71
Version: 1.05.003 (2007-09-15)
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| 65 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 18:58
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I'm in Eastern Time.
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| 66 | Peter N.
ID: 37121718
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 19:12
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I'm in Central Time.
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| 67 | russelldl
ID: 1890298
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 19:52
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eastern
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| 68 | DHamm
ID: 177391317
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 21:06
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Eastern
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| 69 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 21:35
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Central Time, but I'll have the ability to draft anytime, for the most part.
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| 70 | dpr
ID: 43622222
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 22:03
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I am PST
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| 71 | VP.
ID: 7335210
Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 22:58
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Same as 69 for me
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| 72 | Footwedge
ID: 28055812
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 08:57
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central
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| 73 | art's in the hall
ID: 30743189
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 10:43
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I am in MTN. Everything looks good. I am in front of the computer most of the day.
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| 74 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 13:24
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Three and Out: please sign up for the league on Fantrax.com. I've sent you a second invitation. As soon as everyone's signed up I'll see if their scheduling system can handle doubleheaders without lots of manual changes.
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| 75 | Bean
ID: 577331923
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 00:34
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Is there just going to be one AA league?
Would like to join y'all in Football this year.
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| 76 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 20:45
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Maybe I missed a previous comment (or this is a stupid question) but how do I find our draft on Kafenatid? Will a link be distributed?
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| 77 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 09:13
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Bearclaw 76 -- Go to Kafenatid.Net/On The Clock. Scroll down to Your Current Drafts. You will see the league name RIFC AA #1 which is our draft. I can see it there now as commissioner; I'm not sure if you can see it now with "Not Started" beside it or if you won't see it until the draft is started. (I will hit "Draft Start" sometime rhis weekend, with no clock until Monday morning. You can set your queues, and pick if you want, though there is no need to pick until Monday.)
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| 78 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 09:22
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Three and Out: you need to sign up for the Fantrax league. I've sent you multiple invitations now. I would like everyone to be signed up before the draft starts.
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| 79 | Bearclaw
ID: 1975595
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 15:03
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Thanks Toral - I see the RIFC AA #1 and the not started. Where do I go to set my queue? There wasn't much else to click on that I could find.
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| 80 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 15:12
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You can't set your queue until I start the draft. Once it is started there will be something to click on there.
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| 81 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:34
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The draft has been turned on at Kafenatid. You may pick now, but need not feel obliged to do so until Monday.
Whether you pick or not, I urge those early in the first round to set up queues, and those later to experiment with setting them up if unfamiliar with Kafenatid. Remember that your queues may be set up as AVAILABLE or UNAVAILABLE. If your queue is unavailable, no one may pick from it (or even see it when your turn comes up.)
I will set up a new thread for draft discussion later, setting up the procedures and rules of etiquette to be followed during the draft. For the moment I would only mention that from here on in, please do not mention any undrafted players.
Toral
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| 82 | russelldl
ID: 497122211
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 12:12
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i left a queue for round 7.
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| 83 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 12:19
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Not sure what you did russelldl but my screen shows your queue as empty (no players) and unavailable. (FYI the commissioner can see whether there are any players in a queue, and whether it is available, but not who the players are or how many there are.)
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| 84 | russelldl
ID: 497122211
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:53
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sorry toral. I left this message in the wrong thread. It was meant for different league.
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| 85 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:20
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I've finished the schedule. Fantrax requires manual addition of the doubleheader games. I invite you to check to see you have 26 games, 2 against each team.
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| 86 | Toral
ID: 4155487
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:45
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The discussion has been moved to the Draft Discussion thread.
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