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Subject: Rotoguru Keeper 14, Year 3 Draft Thread (2009)
Posted by: leggestand
- Leader [451036518] Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 11:54
This thread should be used to discuss the Rotoguru Keeper 14, 2009 Draft. |
| 1 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 11:56
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The following are the players that have been kept from 2008, in alphabetical order by first name. Please use this to make sure when you draft that you are not taking a kept player. It is essential that you check this list, as a lot of over anxious picks were made last year without checking this list and the spreadsheet.
Aaron Rodgers
Adrian Peterson
Andre Johnson
Anquan Boldin
Anthony Gonzalez
Barett Ruud
Bradie James
Brandon Jacobs
Brandon Marshall
Braylon Edwards
Brian Westbrook
Calvin Johnson
Cedric Benson
Chris Johnson
Clinton Portis
Darren McFadden
Darren Sproles
Deangelo Williams
Demarcus Ware
Derrick Ward
Desean Jackson
Donnie Avery
D'Qwell Jackson
Drew Brees
Earnest Graham
Ed Reed
Eddie Royal
Eric Weddle
Felix Jones
Frank Gore
Greg Jennings
James Farrior
James Harrison
Jason Witten
Jerod Mayo
John Carlson
Jon Beason
Josh Wilson
Kevin Smith
Kevin Walter
Kurt Warner
LaDainian Tomlinson
Lance Moore
Larry Fitzgerald
Lawrence Timmons
Leodis McKelvin
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Marshwan Lynch
Matt Forte
Matt Ryan
Matt Schaub
Maurice Jones-Drew
Micheal Turner
Miles Austin
Peyton Manning
Philip Rivers
Pierre Thomas
Randy Moss
Rashard Mendenhall
Ravens D
Ray Rice
Roddy White
Ronnie Brown
Ryan Grant
Santana Moss
Sean Jones
Stephen Gostkowski
Steve Breaston
Steve Slaton
Steve Smith (CAR)
Steven Jackson
Ted Ginn, Jr.
Terrell Owens
Terrell Suggs
Thomas Jones
Titans D
Tom Brady
Tony Gonzalez
Torry Holt
Vincent Jackson
Wes Welker
Willie Parker
Willis McGahee
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| 2 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 12:05
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The draft has not been started yet, but I expect that it will start at some point tonight or tomorrow morning. To be clear, here are the only "open" picks in the first four (4) rounds (every other selection should be a keeper):
Round 1:
1.01 Beezer
1.03 Da Bomb
1.06 Doug
Round 2:
2.03 Da Bomb
2.09 Guru
2.12 Leggestand
2.13 IAC
Round 3:
3.01 Beezer
3.03 Da Bomb
3.04 TB
3.10 mjd
3.12 Leggestand
3.13 IAC
Round 4:
4.01 Beezer
4.05 Taxman
4.06 Doug
4.08 Goatlocker
4.09 Guru
4.14 Motley Crue
These four rounds should move pretty fast, so, be prepared. Of note, only boikin, Challenger, and Athletic's Guy do not have picks in the first four rounds.
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| 3 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 18:06
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I have processed all of the pre-draft trades and opened the draft. It's active and if your name is Beezer, Da Bomb, or Doug, you can start thinking about making a pick. Everyone else better have like, one-player queues with their keepers locked into them. No, but seriously, that would be helpful. And if you have several early keepers, it would be real nice if your queue contained them.
I thought about my promise to set the clock at 8 hours and I think that's too long. I'm going to reset it to 6 hours. It won't turn on until tomorrow (Thursday) at noon ET. If you think you're going to have any problems at all with that clock, please just e-mail me and I'll work with you. But given that our average pick time last season was about 47 minutes, I am not anticipating anyone having problems with a 6-hour limit.
leggestand, thanks for putting the thread together. It rocks.
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| 4 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 18:16
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First pick is off the board. Good luck everybody!
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| 5 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 18:28
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My first 2 picks are in my queue and it is available.
I made everyone a DP.
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| 6 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 18:32
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My first 4 picks are in my queue and it is available.
I made everyone a DP.
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| 7 | TB
ID: 533492313
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 19:12
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I have my first two keepers que'd up (Manning and Portis) and everyone listed as a designated picker.
I see Knowshon Moreno has been selected by Beezer to kick off the draft. Boikin is "on the clock" but someone with mod status at Kaf should be able to pick any of Darren McFadden, Willis McGahee, Thomas Jones, or Marshawn Lynch for him so that Da Bomb is up to pick.
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| 8 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 19:19
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My first pick is in my queue and it is available.
I made everyone a DP.
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| 9 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 19:45
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The Commish is a goob. I sat here for the last hour thinking I couldn't pick for anyone who didn't have a queue set up. Then I tried picking McFadden for boikin and it worked.
Yeah.
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| 10 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 19:53
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My first round pick is queued (Gore).
I have 4 players in a queue for round 2. Leggestand, MC, Goatlocker, and mjd are DPs.
Roddy White is also queued for round three. If someone from the Rd 2 queue is still there, you can use free form to enter White.
I should be home by early Thursday evening.
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| 11 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 07:17
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I extended my queue for round 4, if we get there before this evening. Do not use it for round 5.
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| 12 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 07:19
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Left a queue to cover my third round pick and checked to make
sure none of them were already picked.
I'll be gone from 8:30 to hopefully before noon.
Also added Jennings, my 4th round keeper.
Queue is open and on free form.
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| 13 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 07:55
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Thanks guys. I won't be around for most of today, but my wife is helping me with Kafenatid while I'm at work so keep your queues set up and I'll try to get picks made.
If the co-Commish would make his second round choice!
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| 14 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 09:18
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Pick made at 2.12...I apologize for the delay. It appears I had kafenatid funneling to a bad email address.
Beezer is up as I used IAC and MC's queued picks.
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| 15 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 09:40
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Queue is set for Round 3.
Made everybody a DP.
Will look at 4th round later.
Will not be able to post here again until I get home from work.
Cliff
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| 16 | TB
ID: 533492313
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 22:51
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Pretty slow start. I think only two real picks in the last 11 hours. Felix Jones is loaded for my 4th round and I have 10 players loaded for my 5th rounder. I won't be around again until tomorrow night, but MC has a phone number he can call me on if we happen to make it to the 6th round tomorrow (lol).
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| 17 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 23:28
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I've been real shocked at how slow we are going.
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| 18 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 00:17
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In agreemant with GoatLocker (must be an age thing). With two 4+ hour picks out of the last 3 picks..I suggest that we move to a shorter clock.
This draft needs a jump start with 20 more rounds to go. The queue function at OTC is quite simple. The shorter clock will encourage use of the queue or checking in more frequently.
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| 19 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 00:17
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I'm scheduled for a closing on a house that's been on the market
for 8 months and empty for 3 at 1 PM Friday.
I'd like to leave a queue for round 5, but we need to make a bit
more progress before I'm comfortable doing that.
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| 20 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 05:13
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Draft Stats as of now:
49 picks made at an average time of 45 minutes each
287 picks left (of which about 50 are keepers)
Projected to finish on 6 September
Yes, this includes filling in lots of keepers so we probably need to pick it up a little. But keep in mind the draft officially started Thursday at noon. It hasn't even been 24 hours yet and we're nearly through 4 rounds. We should be fine, guys. If things slack off, we'll implement a shorter clock.
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| 21 | TB
ID: 533492313
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 10:55
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Beezer just picked Cedric Benson, who I believe is a 24th round keeper for Da Bomb.
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| 22 | The Beezer
ID: 477382511
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:19
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My apologies - misspelled Benson on my search! Add that to not having any DPs set up and I'm screwing up all over the place. I would like to have Larry Johnson, RB, KC instead if I may.
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| 23 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:28
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boikin just screwed up as well, taking Eddie Royal, who is also a keeper.
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| 24 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:44
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Alright, I changed Beezer's pick. Now I just have to call boikin and ask him who he wants, so I can restart the draft.
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| 25 | The Beezer
ID: 477382511
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:47
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Thank you boikin - I feel better when it's not just me screwing up. :)
And thank you TB and MC for staying on top of this.
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| 26 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:54
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Taken care of. The draft has been restarted. Please make sure you all check the keeper list before making your picks.
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| 27 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 11:57
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My queue is set for this round only.
I'm leaving at 12:30 and will be gone for a few hours.
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| 28 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 12:15
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I am constantly old and forgetfull..could someone please list starting lineup positions. I recollect a hybrid WR/TE or WR/RB slot....and i think the IDP requires a minimum of 1 at DL, LB and DB, but can't remember total starters required. Alas memory fades. Wish it would just droop like the belly. Thanks
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| 29 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 12:27
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I am leaving at 1 est today and be without cpu access until 1 pm Sunday. I have a 7 man queue set for now, which should last me this round, and possibly next (feel free to draft players from the queue until it's exhausted). I will have email access, though, and I should be fairly responsive if someone sends me an email or gives me a call. I will ask for patience, though, as I won't know who was taken until whoever contacts me sends me the recent picks.
I have set up a ton of designated pickers, so, if anyone is around when I am up if my queue is exhausted, reach into me. I'll get back to you asap.
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| 30 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 12:29
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1-QB
2-RB
2-WR
1-WR/TE
1-TE
1-PK
1-DEF
1-DL
1-LB
1-DB
3-Flex IDP
15 Starters, 9 reserves
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| 32 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 12:48
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I will be glad to call if you provide me your cell number. I've been on your end of this several times in past years.
thanks for line up info
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| 33 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 12:55
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Info sent, Tax. Thanks!
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| 34 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 14:10
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Went back and forth on Stewart, but his nagging achilles injury finally made me go with picking up a stud LB instead... funny that the guy picking me after me had Stewart as #1 in his queue! :)
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| 35 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 15:11
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Another botched pick - Derrick Ward (GoatLocker). Third time this round. Gonna be a long draft...
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| 36 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 15:17
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Stopped clock again until I can get in touch with Goatlocker.
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| 37 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 15:34
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I'm back and would like to make my pick when we're up and
running and it's my turn.
Can't turn my queue off sonce the draft is stopped.
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| 38 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 16:38
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MC - why don't you turn the draft back on? I won't pick until GoatLocker repicks, but in the meantime, others can access their queues.
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| 39 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 16:42
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Ok, it's on.
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| 40 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 17:24
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I've just sent out rather crude x-cell spread sheets with
(1) Keepers listed: last name first, and
(2) listing of keepers selected thru round 4.
May be of help to the Control F challenged among us. If you see something stupid (other than the concept) please let league/me know ASAP.
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| 41 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 17:51
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MC...your e-mail server doesn't like mine. If you want a copy of the X-Cell sheet I sent, ask someone to send you a copy.
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| 42 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 17:55
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It really shouldn't be difficult. The list in post 1 is sorted by first name. Just figure out the first letter of the player's first name and then scan down the list for that letter. No need to use ctl-F and risk a spelling error.
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| 43 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 18:19
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And I'll take the hit, but the list only works if you can get to it.
I did line out my Cheat sheet, or so I thought, guess I missed one.
He is still showing, what do I need to do to get rid of him.
Cliff
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| 44 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 18:24
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MC, if you see this and can do it, change it to LenDale White.
Also sent an email.
Will Print the list from above, and use it in the future, since I apparently can't line out from the Spreadsheet ;)
Sheesh.
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| 45 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 18:27
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OK, I fixed it. If an incorrect pick is made, only I can change it so be sure to e-mail me or post in here for me to notice.
We're ready to move forward.
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| 46 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 18:30
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Again all, sorry, just lopped off my left hand in penance, so this typng one hndd stuf is kin a tuff
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| 47 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 19:57
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If it makes you happy, IAC, I was going to take Hester had you not taken him. Good pick there. I figured with Cutler on board you'd let Hester go, but good value is good value.
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| 48 | TB
ID: 347411513
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 20:07
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He was second in my queue behind Addai and that was before I decided to bump Addai above him last night.
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| 49 | TB
ID: 347411513
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 20:24
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I've been digging through all the old threads and cannot find our scoring rules. Can someone link me or post them? Thanks.
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| 50 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 21:01
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How about here for the rules:
http://fbc.fanball.com/leaguehome/rules/15746#scoring-rules
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| 51 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 21:04
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Reminder on 6th rd keepers:
Da Bomb - Santana Moss
Taxman - Matt Schaub
Guru - Ray Rice
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| 52 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 21:51
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Thanks for posting the link. I clicked all over the site and couldn't find it.
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| 53 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 22:10
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RE 47: Cutler? I took him at 3.13 didn't I? ;)
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| 54 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 22:24
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Schaub in queue
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| 55 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 09:29
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Queue set for round 6, then it's Leon Washington for me in round 7 (Also in the Queue).
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| 56 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 12:04
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Anthony Gonzalez is in my queue for Round 7.
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| 58 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 14:34
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I have not been receiving any notifications from Kafenatid today, at least not since right after midnight (already in bed). Is this the same for the rest of you?
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| 59 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 14:46
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Challenger, I have been getting the notifications from Kafenatid all day. It seems to be working fine. Maybe your spam filter is to blame.
While I'm posting, I'll clarify that DeMarcus Ware is AG's 9th round pick, not mine. I actually don't have a 9th round pick. boikin has mine.
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| 60 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 15:06
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Beason is in my queue. Everyone in the league is a DP for me for round 8.
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| 61 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 16:02
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I left a queue for round 7
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| 62 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 16:07
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Deleted #57 due to errrrrrorrrrssssss :(
The keepers for the 7th rd have been declared by their perspective owners. Only item left to mention is AG owns Doug's pick this round. (7.6)
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8th rd Keepers:
Beezer - Jon Beason
Doug - Steve Slaton
Guru - Aaron Rodgers
9th rd Keepers:
Doug - DeSean Jackson
AG - DeMarcus Ware
MC - Pick traded to Boikin (9.14)
Sorry MC, I've been fighting my email settings since I was forced to do some changes due to Hotmail going to POP3 account instead of their previous http account. Somehow my new Hotmail settings are affecting the downloading of the other accounts, where Kafenatid notices go. Took me 3 days just to receive emails thru the new POP3, but still can't send thru Pop3 yet.
No excuse for the errs in #57 except for I didn't scroll over far enough. But I thought you didn't have Ware and you won't.
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| 63 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 16:32
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Got those notices! :) And back to AG this like that
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| 64 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 21:26
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OK, call from Challenger,
I picked.
Took Dave's Keeper.
MJD is up.
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| 65 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 23:17
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Yo, Beezer. Barrett Ruud is a keeper on somoene else's team. Post here and I'll remake that pick for you.
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| 67 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 23:26
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No excuses - I just plain got lazy and missed this. I suck. Thanks for the help cleaning up my mess. I'll take Zack Miller. If I do this again, please assign me Barry Sanders and I'll get someone off the waiver wire after the draft is done.
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| 68 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 23:31
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Zach Miller is gone too
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| 69 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 00:06
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Unless he meant this Zach Miller.
I kind of doubt it, but let us know, Beezer.
Boikin told me he's not going to be online the rest of the night, so this isn't really holding up the draft.
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| 70 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 08:01
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UGH! For some reason, I had GoatLocker's 6.8 pick as James Harrison as a keeper instead of Miller. I'm embarrassed.
I will take Mario Williams, DL, HOU - I've triple-checked and don't see him on the keeper list or on the current picks. Thanks everyone for your patience - I WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN I SWEAR.
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| 71 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 08:56
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Beezer, no worries as it gave us a chance to catch our breath after yesterdays 3 pick day. What are the chances we can do it again?!!? :)
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| 72 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 09:10
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See if I can do this w/o errs this time for the next rd.
10th rd alterations:
Da Bomb's 10.3 pick to Doug
GoatLocker - Vincent Jackson
AG's 10.11 pick to Da Bomb
IAC - Steve Breaston
MC - Philip Rivers
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| 73 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 12:54
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Vincent Jackson is loaded in my queue and ready for Round 10.
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| 74 | leggestand
ID: 477263012
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 13:26
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Back in town...thanks to all those who helped me out while I was away.
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| 75 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 16:23
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11th rd alterations:
Beezer - Balt Ravens Def
Da Bomb's 11.3 pick to Doug
Doug's 11.6 to Boikin
leggestand - Eddie Royal
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| 76 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 17:19
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I have left a que for round 11. Please do not use it for round 12. I will be home tonight by 10:00 PM EST. Hopefully that will be before round 12 reaches me.
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| 77 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 19:27
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One name in the queue for round 11.
Going downstairs for dinner.
Will check afterwards.
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| 78 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 19:36
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Question - Boikin is up and has another WR que'd up making 5 straight WR's in a row. Should we be wundering if this is what he really wants as I have no communications with him over this. Just been selecting .....until now.
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| 79 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 19:42
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Since I'm drafting next, I'm holding up for a little while until others chime in.
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| 80 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 19:46
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I just talked to him. He said he wants the players on his queue, and I mentioned he had picked 4 WR in a row. He said go ahead and take Henderson for a 5th.
He has thought it through. He apparently has a strategy.
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| 81 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 19:52
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He apparently has a strategy.
He's doing better than me then! :)
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| 82 | leggestand
ID: 477263012
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:05
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He apparently has a strategy.
Quote of the year so far.
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| 83 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:15
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GoatLocker has Eric Weddle que'd up, a keeper for Da Bomb
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| 84 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:19
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Luckily Guru is up next, so we won't get too far down the wrong path if someone pulls the trigger on Weddle.
GL, we're looking for an alternate selection from you, buddy.
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| 85 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:20
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Call GL and left message
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| 86 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:45
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Someone selected Weddle for GL anyway!
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| 87 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 20:46
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Oops, I knew Weddle was a keeper for someone, but didn't know who it was. I assumed it was GL when I looked at the queue so I entered the pick.
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| 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 21:04
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I'll just wait it out.
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| 89 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 21:13
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Shit, I need to now cut off my right hand.
Don't know how I'm going to type with my tongue.
Sent email to MC.
Replace Weddle with Adrian Wilson.
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| 90 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 21:18
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Alright, Guru's up for real now.
GoatLocker, you're pardoned for being so entertaining.
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| 91 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 21:52
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I just picked Barrett Ruud for Doug in boikin's 12th round slot. That sounds right, doesn't it? There was no queue, but my spreadsheet says that was the pick.
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| 92 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 30, 2009, 22:25
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12th rd alterations:
Boikin's 12.2 pick to Doug, Doug - Barrett Rudd
Doug's 12.6 to Da Bomb
Guru - Earnest Graham
AG's 12.11 to Da Bomb
IAC - Ryan Grant
13th rd alterations:
Da Bomb's 13.3 to AG
Taxman - Kevin Walter
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| 93 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 00:30
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Saw a couple picks that surprised me, so wanted to confirm this from the rules link above on fanball site, kr/pr points go to the D/ST, NOT the individual player, correct?
If there was any real question of this I would have asked sooner... the link to the fanball site makes it very clear it goes to the D/ST not the player, but I guess I just want to make sure everyone is clear on this too.
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| 94 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 00:54
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We've used kick/punt return points for players, just like RIFC, since the leagues inception. I do see on our league rules where it is under team defense/special teams, but it should be under IDP.
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| 95 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 01:02
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IDP as well as WR, RB, etc.
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| 96 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 01:35
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Looking at Legge's excel file, I believe that the remaining keepers are as follows:
12.13 Ryan Grant (IAC)
13.05 Kevin Walter (Taxman)
14.02 Titans D (Boikin)
14.03 Matt Ryan (Da Bomb)
14.12 Kurt Warner (Legge)
15.08 James Harrison (Goat)
15.10 Derrick Ward (MJD)
16.04 Pierre Thomas (TB)
16.07 Darren Sproles (Challenger)
17.04 Jerod Mayo (TB)
19.07 Terrell Suggs (Challenger)
22.01 D'Qwell Jackson (Beezer)
22.02 Ed Reed (Boikin)
22.03 Torry Holt (Da Bomb)
23.01 Miles Austin (Beezer)
23.03 Eric Weddle (Da Bomb)
23.10 Ted Ginn, Jr. (MJD)
23.12 Rashard Mendenhall (Legge)
23.14 John Carlson (MC)
24.01 Stephen Gostkowski (Beezer)
24.03 Cedric Benson (Da Bomb)
24.04 Lance Moore (TB)
24.05 Sean Jones (Taxman)
24.06 Donnie Avery (Doug)
24.09 James Farrior (Guru)
24.10 Lawrence Timmons (MJD)
24.12 Josh Wilson (Legge)
24.13 Leodis McKelvin (IAC)
24.14 Bradie James (MC)
* Note - some of the 22nd and 23rd round picks listed above are considered 24th round keepers for those teams that kept two/three players eligible for 24th round keeper status.
Once Da Bomb makes his current pick at 12.11, the only two remaining traded picks I see are:
13.03 from Da Bomb to AG
17.02 from Boikin to MC
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| 97 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 06:33
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Post [93-94]:
We use the same scoring system as RIFC. The scoring system on Fanball may show a few differences because Fanball migrated our league to a new "game" (NFL Commissioner) this year. I have yet to find all of the little breadcrumbs they left me, and I hadn't seen that one, Doug. Unfortunately, it's a big one.
However, as TB mentioned, we've always used KR/PR points for the individual players, and we'll continue to do so this season.
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| 98 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 07:44
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Awwww crap... that changes a lot... definitely would have made some different picks this draft... I did a lot of work figuring out the D/STs too and making customized rankings for this league. I mean, I know nothing can be done about it now, but geez... feeling kinda sick about it at the moment.
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| 99 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 09:51
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Actually, we don't use KR/PR stats for team Ds.
But we've always used them for individual players.
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| 100 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 12:40
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Exactly. Which is the opposite of what the website says, and therefore what I based all my rankings of both individuals and teams upon.
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| 101 | The Beezer
ID: 477382511
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 13:18
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Now THAT was a fast round. Did we even take 2 hours total?
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| 102 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 13:44
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Stop!!! Boikin was suppose to take Tenn Titans Def this round
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| 103 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 13:52
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I emailed MC since I think he's the only one that can fix it. For the time being, if someone wants Zach Diles, feel free to post in here when you are up (and take a placeholder player that's ou for season).
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| 104 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 14:16
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stop I took somebody's keeper Jerod Mayo. I didn't look. Please make my pick 14.05 Ernie Sims, LB, DET
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| 105 | TB
ID: 533492313
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 14:19
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I love Kafenatid for a regular draft, but if it cannot be coded to allow us to enter keepers by round, we should look at drafting elsewhere next season. I know I've used the fanball site in a slow draft before, where it emails you when it's your turn to pick and tells you who has been picked.
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| 106 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 14:30
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Boikin's pick has been changed to the Tenn Titans. Zach Giles is available. I also fixed Taxman's mistake.
Guys, please pay attention. It's not that hard to check the list leggestand put up to check who the keepers are.
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| 107 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 15:17
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Thank you MC. And you are right. I flat forgot to run the name through leggestand's list..or the last name first list that I made.
I may be stupid, but I am consistant. ;o]
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| 108 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 15:20
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I have a 2 player que for the 14th rd only. I will be gone until 7 or 8 CST
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| 109 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 15:30
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I thought it was odd that the guy who sent out the spreadsheet never bothered to use it!
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| 110 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 15:56
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I am leaving a queue for round 15 only
I should be back by 9pm.
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| 111 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 16:54
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New instructions
I have a 5 player que for the 15th rd only. I will be gone until 7 or 8 CST. My 16th pick is keeper Darren Sproles.
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| 112 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 17:32
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Posts [97-99]: What I meant to convey (and I think I did a poor job of it) was that our league uses the same scoring system as RIFC and it always has, but that Fanball made changes to it when they migrated the league to the new website. I hadn't discovered those changes until Doug pointed them out to me today, and for that I am sorry. I changed all of the scoring rules so that they are accurate, to the best of my knowledge. Given that this is the 15th round of the draft, I know it's small consolation, Doug. I don't even know how to begin to remediate that for you. I won last season with only 7 of the players I drafted ending the year on my team. I never hope anyone has a bad draft, but I think you are a good enough manager to win no matter how bad you think your draft turns out, Doug.
For the record, the TM D/ST Scoring is below.
Award 2 points for every 1 Fumbles Recovered
Award 2 points for every 1 Interceptions
Award 1 points for every 1 Sacks
Award 3 points for every 1 Safeties
Award 2 points for every 1 Blocked Field Goals
Award 2 points for every 1 Blocked Punts
Award 2 points for every 1 Blocked Extra Points
Award 6 points for Touchdowns scored on Blocked Kicks/Punts, Fumbles Recovered, and Interceptions
Award 1 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 400 to 499
Award 2 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 300 to 399
Award 3 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 275 to 299
Award 4 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 250 to 274
Award 5 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 225 to 249
Award 6 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 200 to 224
Award 7 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 175 to 199
Award 8 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 150 to 174
Award 9 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 125 to 149
Award 10 points for Net Yards Allowed (Pass + Rush - Sack Yds) in the range of 0 to 124
Subtract -4 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 35 to 110
Subtract -1 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 28 to 34
Award 1 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 14 to 20
Award 4 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 7 to 13
Award 7 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 1 to 6
Award 10 points for Defensive Points Allowed in the range of 0 to 0
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| 113 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 17:52
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Yeah, there's more to winning than the draft... I'm still a little steamed about it, but not pointing fingers... it's clearly a Fanball issue. Just sucks 'cus I thought I was drafting well and was ahead of the game, and now think I'm behind in the game and missed some opportunities that others were able to take instead. Just more work to do ahead I guess!
It's also just a bit of salt in the wound that I dislike KR/PR to begin with in FF... there's enough luck involved already, and that's always seemed one of the more crap-shooty elements of scoring, since there isn't good reliable information out there about who will be returning for each team, etc. unless you have countless hours to go scour message boards, etc.
I also had something similar happen in G24 this year where I was having a chat a week or so ago with Ref about scoring changes for this year, he rattled of a few, I told him I was mildly annoyed with us adding KR/PR, and he replied it was for IDP only... then yesterday (after a few rounds of draft had passed) I discovered that when he said IDP only, he was referring to the change in points per sack being IDP only, not the KR/PR change. Argh.
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| 114 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 21:08
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I have my 16th and 17th round keepers loaded and queue available. I have some extra players loaded for round 18 and beyond, but I'd like to make my 18th round selection myself.
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| 115 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 21:38
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Ward locked and loaded for round 15.
Other players behind him are players of possible interest later in
the draft and in no particular order, so I'll make my 16 round pick
unless otherwise noted.
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| 116 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 10:01
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Got one in the queue for Round 16.
If that goes, will be checking shortly after I get to work.
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| 117 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 10:44
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MC -
I just compared the pts calculated by Fanball vs. those in MFL.com for the RIFC. I found a couple of discrepancies.
1. Offensive players should receive negative points when they have negative yards. Somewhere you need to set it to apply the formula to negative yardage.
2. Team defense: Fanball is charging extra points for defensive touchdowns against the defense. For example, in week 12 last year, Baltimore gave up a total of 7 points to Philly, all on an interception return TD. But instead of giving the Ravens defense credit for a shutout (10 fantasy pts), it is charging them with 1 point allowed (resulting in only 7 fantasy pts). Not sure if you can correct for that or not. May be a definitional issue.
Although I didn't do a painstaking comparison, all other points look the same for both systems, including IDPs.
As reconciliation comparisons, Drew Brees should have total pts of 302.66 (he had negative rushing yards in 3 games).
The Baltimore defense would have 39 pts in week 12 (vs Eagles) if the extra point was not chrged against them.
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| 118 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 11:13
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Just spoke to Taxman and he will be back online within 30 minutes.
RE: Post 117
1. Offensive players should receive negative points when they have negative yards. Somewhere you need to set it to apply the formula to negative yardage.
I noticed that last year and couldn't understand why we didn't receive neg points. However, I did check several head-to-heads and I didn't see that it reflected on the final outcome. IIRC, most neg points belong to the QB's.
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| 119 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 15:21
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STOP
Torry Holt was kept by Da Bomb. Taxman, need another pick from you at 17.05.
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| 120 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 15:21
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darn it...forgot to look again!! Torry Holt is a keeper for someone else
please change pick 17.05 to Julius Peppers, DL Car.
du dum dumb and dumber
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| 121 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 15:24
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[117 & 118] In the RIFC, we always applied negative yardage points correctly, so there has to be a way to do it.
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| 122 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 15:41
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I changed your pick, Taxman.
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| 123 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 17:05
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I left a que for the 17th rd only. I will be gone until 9:00 CST.
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| 124 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 18:57
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I changed the league settings to allow for negative scoring. The TM DEF scoring says "Defensive Points Allowed" so I hope that covers it. I suppose I ought to submit a support ticket to find out.
I wanted to bring up another thing, Guru. It seems to me the ability to start 5 LB's is a vestige from the days when we couldn't figure out what position Terrel Suggs was playing. Or was it DeMarcus Ware? Anyway, I'd like to just call those guys whatever position they show up in Fanball. If it changes from year to year, well that's an inherent risk of drafting or keeping a hybrid player. I don't think we need to continue on with special allowances for certain managers under the current circumstances. Is there a reason that my thinking is wrong?
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| 125 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 20:55
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We're on a 36 minute/pick pace.
Projected finish is September 4th, 5:18 AM. With all of the keepers left, it should happen before that.
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| 126 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 22:03
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Yes there is a problem as I gave everyone a chance to chime in last year when I noted Suggs was listed as a DL on Fanball and was told to go ahead and draft him that way. Of course after I drafted Suggs Fanball changed it, hence the adjustment.
I was on the up & up and now you want to back door me. You had every opportunity to bring this up before keepers were announced and now you choose to address it 3/4 away thru the draft?!!!?
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| 127 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 22:17
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Challenger, relax. I'm not going to make a change given those circumstances. I thought we were still working with an old rule which was no longer necessary. Your post makes sense and we can keep things as they are.
Next year, Suggs will require a 9th round pick to keep. I believe that will require him to have a hell of a good 2009 to be kept again. And Ware will require a 4th rounder.
Once these players are tossed back into the draft pool, I'd like to implement a new rule making players eligible only at the positions which they are listed at within the fantasy game. I'll store this nut away and dig it up again next off-season.
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| 128 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 23:12
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I'm going to be on the road the next two days so will be setting up a lengthy queue. I still need a couple starting positions so I'd ask that if we get deeper into my queue that I don't draft more than one kicker and more than one DL. If we get to round 22 and I still don't have either one then I need my top rated one for sure seeing how my 24th rounder is a WR keeper.
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| 129 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 00:51
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My queue is only good for round 18 only please.
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| 130 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 08:36
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MC, then you should have mentioned it as your thought for next year.
Now the problem I have with Suggs this your thru Fanball:
1)Suggs is listed as a DL in the player stats page. No problem there
2)When I try to start Suggs only options I have is LB or Bench.
3) Moved him to Bench to see if option to DL would be available, Nope, just LB & Bench again. Butttttt, just behind Suggs's name he is listed as a DL!!! &*($%^ Fanball!
Feel free to move Suggs around to see what I'm getting at as I believe as the Commish you have that ability. I just benched him.
Oh, now I'm getting the message that I have to many players on the bench! I only have 8 there an I believe we have a 9 player bench.
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| 131 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 09:51
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[130] Maybe if you drop Suggs from your roster entirely and then pick him up again, he'll reset to the proper position.
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| 132 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 10:15
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I can't add my last 2 picks.
It says I have too many players on my bench. I set a line up and
only have 4 guys on my bench.
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| 133 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 12:58
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I have the same problem adding players.
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| 134 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 13:22
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An error on the spreadsheet has been found:
Da Bomb should have his picks grayed out in Rounds 22 and 23 since he is keeping 3 players in round 24. If you are a designated picker for Da Bomb, please make sure that his last 3 picks are:
Torry Holt
Eric Weddle
Cedric Benson
in no particular order.
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| 135 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 13:32
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[128] It appears that TB is only showing the top name in his queue. If we need to reach for a DL or kicker in rounds 22/23, we won't be able to see past the top name.
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| 136 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 15:52
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STOP
John Carlson was kept by MC. Mjd, need another pick from you at 20.10.
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| 137 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 15:58
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Sorry, missed him.
Anthony Fasano
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| 138 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 16:11
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My brain locked up when Guru took the kicker I had queued up for
that pick.
First time I forgot to check.
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| 139 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 16:24
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Please select my top LB pick in round 21. My keepers for the rest of the draft are loaded below them and I have made everyone a designated picker. Thanks.
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| 140 | TB
ID: 533492313
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 16:50
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[135] I got a chance to pop in and see how the draft has unfolded today and opened up my queue for all listed to show. Thanks for posting or I would have completely spaced that out.
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| 141 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 17:12
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Re: post 131 - Tried to drop Suggs, but I have to many bench players.
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| 142 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 17:13
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mjd, i swapped your pick for Fasano.
I was having strange roster problems earlier while trying to add players, too. Eventually I worked it out by using my admin abilities, which is basically cheating. That bodes poorly for the rest of you getting it to work.
I'll submit a question along with the inquiry about the "Defensive Points Allowed" to see what the Fanball admins say.
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| 143 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 17:30
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MC - FWIW, it looks like the roster rules would allow us to start 2 WRS, 1 TE, and 7 IDPs. I don't recall if it was that way last year - but that's clearly not the intent.
Perhaps there is no way to code a max of 6 total IDPs, and/or 4 total WR/TE. If not, we'll just have to self-administer.
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| 144 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 17:32
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(I must say, I'm not regretting switching the RIFC over to myfantasyleague.com, ... at least, not yet)
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| 145 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 17:34
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Is the new fantasy website working out well? I meant to ask because I assumed there'd be some hiccups. What was the impetus to switch again?
Can you play doubleheaders there?
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| 146 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 18:12
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It's not really a new site. Just new to me.
Seems to do everything we want, including doubleheaders. It will even allow us to change position designations for individual players, if needed (e.g., Suggs).
I don't know if their draft software would have allowed for pre-entering round-based keepers... but it wouldn't surprise me if it does.
The proof will be in the emergence of the season... but I'm impressed so far, especially given some of the recent glitches in Fanball.
Saved a few bucks as well.
The impetus was mostly that some people found Fanball to be cumbersome and/or counterintuitive. I had learned to adapt to the Fanball approach. But I certainly wasn't wedded to it, and some knowledgable Gurupies consider it to be the gold standard.
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| 147 | TB
ID: 533492313
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 18:22
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Calling Fanball cumbersome or counterintuitive is being generous. I'd love to switch to a different site.
As far as having too many bench players, what worked for me was switching out a starting WR and clicking on set line-up. In hindsight, I'm guessing that for "game 2" I didn't have any line-up set and that was getting the error.
I'm at my hotel room and should be around most of the rest of the evening. Looks like we made great progress today and should finish this thing up quickly.
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| 148 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 18:48
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[147] That's the fix for too many bench players.
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| 149 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 18:59
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Sorry, I'm a wee bit confused... which site are we using this season? Fanball? Or are we thinking of switching before the season starts?
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| 150 | TB
ID: 533492313
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 19:16
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Many of us having been adding our drafted players to our Fanball team and unless MC posts and emails new league info I think we have to go with the assumption that we will stick with Fanball for this season.
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| 151 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 19:18
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One thing that MFL does not permit is separate lineups for each game of a doubleheader. The same starting lineup must be used for both.
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| 152 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 19:55
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Doug, we're using Fanball. The game website has changed from last year and now it's called NFL Commissioner, but most of the interface is the same. The admin pages have changed considerably, and although the Fanball staff attempted to transfer our league settings to the new site, they made a few mistakes--one of which you're familiar with in a bad way.
In case you still haven't been to the new site, here's the link. Maybe I was too hasty, but I already paid for the season at Fanball. So we'll use it one more year, and then look into something new for 2010. My big concern is to find a new website for drafting that allows the input of keepers in their proper places before the draft begins.
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| 153 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 20:30
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Gotcha... yeah I know the PR/KR scoring error so I've clearly been to the site... but it was the discussion of "the new fantasy site" that had me confused, wasn't clear if that applied to us or not. I gotcha now though.
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| 154 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 20:31
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queue is for round 22 only
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| 156 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 22:40
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Please pick the top player from my queue. My last 2 picks are
keepers and at the bottom of my queue.
All players available option is on.
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| 157 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 01:49
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*You have too many players on the bench.
*You have too many players on the bench.
I give up! I have tried everything and I rec'd 1 whole player for the last 3 hours. Cleared the cache, loggin out, rebooting, set the lineup a 100 different ways, including empty the starters which did get me a different error code, "you have no starters" but still no players could be picked up.
FANBALL SUCKS
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| 158 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 05:47
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queue is for round 22 only.
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| 159 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 09:43
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Well, after another 1.5 hours I have finally made my pickups. I could not make multiple pick ups at one time as I previously was able to, although before I had tried one at a time several different ways. It make have something to do with Suggs which I finally was able to drop. I really do not know. I did have to use 2 different browsers to accomplish the free agent pick ups.
I have filed a waiver claim for Suggs to try what Guru suggested.
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| 160 | Doug
ID: 467191415
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 11:39
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I've been holding off on making my pickups, in part hoping the website issues get resolved before I spend the time, but will probably give it a go once the draft completes so I can do all of them at one time.
Also, I've updated my queue, feel free to use it in round 23 if it's not empty by then. Round 24 is Donnie Avery (keeper) for me.
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| 161 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 11:55
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My last 2 keepers are the only players in my queue now.
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| 162 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 11:56
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When loading your players, the key is to put them into lineup slots when you get too many bench players, and then to make sure you set that lineup for both games of the doubleheader.
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| 163 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 17:11
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Taxman has done it again. Wrong player in his queue.
His 24th round pick should be Sean Jones. He didn't allow for free-form picks, so only he and MC can make it correctly.
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| 164 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 17:11
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Plus, he has Josh Wilson in there who is my last keeper!
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| 165 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 17:20
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leggestand - you can pick Sean Jones, and then trade.
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| 166 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 17:47
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Based on draft performance, shouldn't Taxman have to start the season with a record of 0-1?
Not even Goatlocker could come close to that amazing performance!
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| 167 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 17:56
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minus Taxman's pick... I think we are effectively done yes?
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| 168 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 18:07
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I must say, the new Fanball interface for setting lineup SUCKS! It's hard to image that someone actually got paid to program that.
Impossible to quickly determine whether the lineup is complete or not.
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| 169 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 18:10
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I just fixed the mishap and finished the draft up. At 34 minutes per pick, I'd say we basically kick ass. Yes, I know that average is skewed by having 6 rounds worth of keeper picks, but still, we did very well.
I'd like to give Doug and IAC the Golden Knuckle Sandwich award for continuously tag-teaming me out of the top player on my queue. I thought IAC was going to run away with the award, until the late rounds when Doug came away with the tie.
Great draft, dudes.
Now on to the gauntlet that is Fanball. If you haven't already, please try to enter your own rosters ASAP. I realize the challenges presented by the software are great this season, but it will help me out bigtime if I don't have to input half our rosters. I have to double check the schedule still, too. I won't be surprised if it's a mess. At this point, I'm going to be happy to use last seasons's again (which I believe is the original schedule as well).
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| 170 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 18:26
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RE 168/169: I think I got all players on my roster, but I keep on getting this weird message about too many bench players and not being able to save... very frustrating.
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| 171 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 18:54
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I'm having the same problem. Adding the players was simple enough, but it won't accept my lineup no matter how I have it set up.
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| 172 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 19:02
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I'm all set up, but do not like the changes made from last year.
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| 173 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 20:55
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I picked up everybody, but that's as far as I can get. This software makes me angrier than Steve Smith in training camp.
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| 174 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 00:14
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OK, have all of mine on the team.
Same problem IAC & AG are seeing though.
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| 175 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 00:47
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MC, I'm not going to attempt to pick up my last pick, Sweed, until the waiver claim comes thru Sat AM for Suggs and I move him into the starting lineup. Unless you can use Commish powers and have him magically appear on my team w/o waiting the 48 hr waiting time.
Funny, all the error codes and pain I went thru to get were I'm at and no error codes whatsoever!! Yet, I only have 14 players starting and should be getting one.
Earlier in the week, the system allowed me to start both of my defenses. I did receive an error code but still it allow both D's into the starting lineup.
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| 176 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 08:50
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Challenger, I forced all of your changes through.
Guru mentioned the most important thing in post [162]: Make sure to set the lineups for both games of the doubleheader at the same time. If you don't do that, you'll continue to get the "too many bench players" error.
If you want a different lineup for one game of the DH, you still need to start with the same lineup and then change it only on one side.
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| 177 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 11:00
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I give up. I can't change my lineup #2 as it keeps saying "lineup cannot been saved." I then try and make a change to line up 1, which has bench space, and it also says "lineup cannot be saved." So, I am stuck. I can't change my lineups, and my bench is filled, so, I can't add anymore players. This is going on 3 days now...
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| 178 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 11:24
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I've gotten the same dumb messages, but had to make sure I went back and forth to teams 1 and 2 to make sure the kicker and DL were set as starters. I even screwed around and put all my IDP into starting positions to free up some initial bench space, before moving them back to the bench.
Fanball sucks big time and this is going to be a problem all year with all those extra starter spots sitting there. You should check and see if you can get a refund. I'd rather post our starters in a thread and manually score the games than deal with this site. I'm sure we can find something better.
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| 179 | Taxman
ID: 76501119
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 11:27
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1) I apologize for making a shambles of the last 3 of last 6 rounds of the draft. I took two mornings and an evening to hunt with my son resulting in screwing up this draft and some work things. Despite the league undertones, I have been faced with livlier and unescapable conversations about work (wife and I run busines with @ 40 employees). That doesn't make me feel less guilty for picking another's keepers 3 times in last 6 rounds.
Can't fix what I've done, but mental note about the limitation an ADD person faces when not taking adequate time to run through check lists when executing tasks have been hammered into brain.
Have made the trade offer to leggestand as suggested in post 165 by Guru.
As to Fanball..had no trouble picking up my drafted players. Upon logging in and selecting Set Lineup page, three keepers were existing in active lineup (including Sean Jones who was not my keeper, but my erronous draft pick). I do have both a "Submit" button below reserves and a "Submit and Copy To Other Game" above active roster. However, neither will save a roster, only populates the lineup on that page.
I am guessing that the commish powers when setting a few players into my lineup has locked me out from making changes. Each time I set a lineup (hit either submit button) then go to the other half of the double header, that lineup has reset to the three "keepers" entered by the commish into starting lineup. I've tried multiple browsers and started at game 2 and game 1. Same result. Roster is frozen.
btw, hitting either submit button will populate that lineup, but when the page is left, the lineup reverts to the three entered by commish.
Any ideas??
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| 180 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 12:06
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Guys, just sit tight on the problems with Fanball. No sense in frustrating yourselves if their software is glitching. I submitted a help request and when I hear back I'll let you know what's up. I told them I'd be looking for a refund if they can't improve the quality of the game real fast.
I'm going to hold off on the post-draft claim period for now. Trying to go through with it might be akin to walking into a mine field. Let's wait a few days and I'll schedule it for sometime early next week.
I'll also go through and finish entering the rosters because I can do that despite Fanball errors.
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| 181 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 15:09
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Thanks MC!
The good news is Suggs listed as a DL. Thanks for the suggestion Guru.
And another note, what if we "trick" the Fanball system and add a extra bench player slot to the rules? In reality, we keep to the max of active players of 24, but show 25 in the rules. Just a thought
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| 182 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 01:41
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Guess I should have read here before I went back in and messed with the damn site.
Frustration is running very high as others have said.
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| 183 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 10:45
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I have heard nothing from Fanball. That pisses me off more than anything else. I realize it's a holiday weekend, but that shouldn't be an excuse for total radio silence from Friday on.
I'm going to have to try to use the Fanball claim system. We need to run the post-draft claims. To get it done before the first game I'm scheduling it for this Wednesday (Sept 9) at noon EST. I'm going to make a change to the settings to allow dropped players to be available without going through waivers themselves. That way all non-rostered players will be available by Wednesday afternoon. I noticed there was a discussion in the RIFC thread about making this change permanent. Guru, did you guys go through with that? If so, I guess we'll match it. Thinking about it, there doesn't seem to be a good reason for keeping those players on waivers for another 2 days.
Administratively, I undid a free agent move by Da Bomb. I should have shut off the FA system earlier but I forgot about it. My bad. FA transactions are not allowed until Wednesday at 1 PM ET (an hour after the Claims go through).
I started a regular season discussion thread and the link is here.
Thanks again for a great draft.
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| 184 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 10:02
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I noted a number of scoring errors at Fanball for the Thursday game.
Among them:
Assisted tackles are being double counted (i.e., included as full tackles as well). I think this has been a problem at the beginning of each season.
Team defense stats are totally wrong.
As a comparison, here are the RIFC points as scored by myfantasyleague.com: RIFC points by player
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| 185 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 12, 2009, 13:18
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I think AG needs to add a DB to his roster. I was looking at live scoring and happened to notice he is short a player.
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| 186 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Sat, Sep 12, 2009, 13:36
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I knew I had a valid lineup when I set it up. So I looked to see what was going on and it turns out Bernard Pollard was cut by the Chiefs. So fanball decided to make him invisible on live scoring even though he was still occupying the DB spot in my lineup.
Thanks TB (I didn't even know he was cut...how embarrassing)
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| 187 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 12, 2009, 21:41
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I not only drafted, but started Kyle Vanden Bosch so let's not talk about embarrassing...lol
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| 188 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 10:50
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Guru, there's a note at Fanball that says that they've corrected the Thursday night scoring. I believe it's right. Let me know if you disagree.
Guys, I've been contacted by Fanball about the Claims process. I asked for help with the league settings earlier in the week, because when I set the game up to use our Wednesday Claim process, for some reason the game responds by locking out FA moves in favor of constant Claims processing. I believe Fanball has still not worked this out for me, and right now the settings are still locking out FA moves. If you need to make a FA move today, post it here or e-mail me. I can make the changes with the Commissioner controls and I will respond to messages that are time-stamped appropriately (i.e., before 5 minutes prior to a team's kick off).
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| 189 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 15:28
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Interesting that Fanball live scoring has not worked all day. (at
least for me.)
No problem with the streaming adds across the top though.
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| 190 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 15:47
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Now that it's working, I think I liked it better when it was not.
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| 191 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 18:53
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We have a regular season thread.
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=976&last=1253388575
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