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Subject: RIFC AAA#1 SEASON DISCUSSIONS

Posted by: judy - [9729212] Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 14:00

time to chat!

judy
ID: 9729212
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 14:05

Great -- Ward is now part of a RBBC in TB and N Washington is out several weeks with his
hammie...I was joking when I said that Caddy was a handcuff for Ward -- I guess not.

loki
ID: 52817213
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 14:18

Judy, it depends on your point of view. As long as Earnest Graham
is part of that committee, I think the TB coach is right on target.
When can we start making free agent moves so that I can correct
some of m draft mistakes? Thanks,

twilson
ID: 346552721
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 14:45

Added all my picks to my team in MFL.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 02, 2009, 18:50

re: #2 still working on that -- sent email -- will send another on Thursday!

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 12:03

Is there going to be a draft recap thread?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 13:02

#5 yes email coming out today/Thursday

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 13:07

recap thread posted -- need nice looking link to it

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 18:55

Thoughts about dropped players sitting out 1 day, 2 days (current) or available
immediately? Big boys looking at 1 for sure and maybe no delay.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 03, 2009, 19:18

I think you need some sort of delay. There is strategy involved
in dropping a player late on Friday (knowing that he can't be
used by another team that week), yet hoping that the guy you
want will still be available.

Plus,with no dely, what's to keep me from emailing another
manager to let him know that I'm dropping player X. (not that
anyone in this league would do that.)

No delay is definiely a disadvantage for anyone with limited
internet access throughout the day.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 18:30

I am in favor of 1 day delay.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 18:32

RIFC 2009 AAA#1 DRAFT RECAP

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 18:47

One day sounds good to me.

You can probably set it up to receive an email when someone is dropped.

In baseball it seems to take a long time. In fact, I forget about the guy by the time he comes off waivers. I think it's two days in our AAA league.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 18:51

I can live with one day.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 21:47

One day is good for me too.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 22:00

One day is fine.

holt
ID: 27831423
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 00:31

depends on what MFL is capable of. I'd just do it however the rifc finally chooses to do it.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 01:05

I would prefer a one day delay.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 12:20

One day player lock is ready to go.

Remember you can request waivers now. They will be awarded Monday at noon and at 3:00
Monday free agent drop/adds commence.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 13:52

In past seasons the waiver order was reset for the 1st few weeks before having the claiming team go to the end. Is this the policy for this year, and if so, for how many weeks?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 18:14

It goes by weekly finish, worst to first for 6 weeks and then it just rolls after that ( use the waiver, go to the
bottom). At least that is what Guru and I think we have set up. Until the first week is over, it goes reverse of
the draft (custom).

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Sun, Sep 06, 2009, 14:58

Judy, Can you check to see if my waiver requests were done correctly? I really need to be sure i did this right. Thanks.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Sep 06, 2009, 15:05

I am not at all sure how to check for you. I cancelled my commish abilities so I cannot peek at what you
guys do. Plus I am not sure how it works. I am not using waiver yet for my guys. Sorry.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 15:23

It looks like waivers worked! Phew!

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 18:32

My waivers went through.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 19:49

My waivers worked. So now if anyone wants the players that were dropped, we can do that in 24 hours?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 20:06

Yes -- right now as FCFS. We (us and the Big Boys) are hoping to set up waivers for these
"locked" players but are not sure how to do it just yet. I think they unlock at 3 am EDT -- we
cannot change that...
I have a note into the MFL message board and am waiting for some help there.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 11:13

QUESTION ABOUT TACKLE/ASSIST POINTS

We (RIFC and us) have chosen this option, however, it applies only to IDP's in our league.

This is the total number of tackles in a game by a player. It includes tackles by an offensive player after a fumble
or interception, and it includes miscellaneous tackles on special teams.

This is the other option -- which is what I think we used last year.

This is the number of tackles in a game by a defensive player. It does not include tackles by offensive players
after a fumble recovery or an interception. It also does not include tackles by players on special teams, such as on a
punt or kickoff return.

Which one do we want? If we choose the first one I do not believe we will be able to verify it as I do not think ST
tackles are recorded in the stats.

Please let me know.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:17

In RIFC, I recall getting points form my kicker and WR tackles in the past. Some times these mystery points would decide the loser or winner on Monday or Tuesday. So, I disagree on your thinking of past RIFC scoring rules for these tackles, and I think points were awarded.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:27

As I posted in my email a couple weeks back, defense only.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:33

Agree with Ref.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:56

I'll clarify:

OPTION #1) (We set it to apply only to IDPs.)
This is the total number of tackles in a game by a player. It includes tackles by an offensive player
after a fumble or interception, and it includes miscellaneous tackles on special teams.

OPTION #2)
This is the number of tackles in a game by a defensive player. It does not include tackles by
offensive players after a fumble recovery or an interception. It also does not include tackles by players
on special teams, such as on a punt or kickoff return.

Please pick a number!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:59

Option 2

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 14:03

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 14:37

twilson
ID: 346552721
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 16:19

#1 is the one that has always been used. If we choose option #2, you will not be able to look at the gamebook as reported on any prominent website (such as nfl.com) and be able to determine the number of tackles that your IDP records, as ST tackles are included in tackle totals as a matter of convention. Instead, you will have to go to the play-by-play and manually discount all tackles made on special teams. Option #2 will make it much harder to confirm that MFL has correctly scored our IDPs. Additionally, I think we should mimic RIFC when they have clearly established a policy, and this seems to be such a situation. I see no persuasive reason to change the status quo, and thus am very strongly in favor of #1.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 16:50

I have NEVER seen option 1 used and am adamently opposed to an offensive player getting IDP points (like tackle) unless he plays on defense. IF any of my iFC leagues have ever used #1 in the past, I certianly didn't notice it. ST isn't IDP, it's Special teams. Offense isn't IDP simply because the O fumbled or threw a pick. I am in fvor of IDP losing pts for fumbling the ball back to the Offense on a turnover play though. Why should he be erwarded with the INT/FR points just to give teh ball back. Might seem paradoxical to some, but feels right to me. ;)

twilson
ID: 346552721
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 16:58

Ref, no offensive players would get IDP points under option #1. As Judy specified in her clarification post, this rule would apply only to IDPs regardless of what we choose.

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 18:25

Option 1 and apply it to everybody, the same as it has always been. If you're going to change any rules, it should have been done before the draft.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 19:15

So #1 is how it has always been? Why fix if it ain't broke? But it seems to me that it never counted the tackles of an offensive player after a fumble. But ST tackles were counted if I remember. I change to #1 after getting things clarified.

TD
ID: 30845718
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 21:31

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 23:03

Wow -- did I open Pandora's box or what? I did ask you guys about this earlier, but we
never really finalized our discussion. I've emailed GURU and we will do what they do. I
will let you know ASAP.

Sorry for the confusion -- I am trying to go over everything to be sure we are all set for
Thursday night.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 23:38

We are using option 1, applied only to IDP. I believe this is consistent with prior years.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 00:18

I don't understand how (or what difference it makes) you can set it to only IDP if it counts Offensive tackles after a turnover?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 14:35

You can set any of the scoring rules in MFL to apply to certain positions and that is what we did.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 16:22

OK, so how would a WR ever score points by tackling then? He will never be a IDP. My thing is that this is an Individual DEFENSIVE position scoring. Not ISTP. Not IOP. I get it, if a WR plays at DB, then he should get points for both. If a DL plays on Off and catches a pass, he should get those points. But on offense or ST tackles--that's not defense to me. JMO.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 17:25

Where do I go to find the free agents? This site isn't always the most intuitive.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 17:33

On the left side of the screen under the bolded "Players" is the link to free agents.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 18:01

RE: [47]

At the top under reports you can do a player search and find out
some ranking stuff.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 21:39

I do not like either option, but will go with majority. I want offensive players to get special teams tackles, but not tackles on turnovers.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 21:40

I just tried to do my starting lineups and did not get an option to change my lineup for the second game of the double header. Do we have to start the same lineup for both games?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 00:06

Yes we are stuck with the same lineup for both games...ugh.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 00:16

I don't mind that at all. I've enver changed my lineups.

It's weird we can't add a player from his profile page. This league has some nice things going, but still needs to make it more user-friendly IMO. It will all work out though.

holt
ID: 55848101
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 02:55

yeah I preferred the fanball interface. mfl is faster though.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 07:52

Did you notice that they have a survival pool built in? It is in the "For Owners" pull down menu.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 13:11

The site also needs a warning if a manager submits an incomplete roster.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 15:34

Loki -- I set it up so there is no incomplete roster. You get points for the guys
you entered and none for empty spots.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 15:35

E-Man -- I guess it is like pick the winner? I wonder if you can
pick the same team again?

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 17:23

Judy-I picked up a 6th IDP on waivers and nearly forgot to start him. Last season I would have been warned that my roster was incomplete.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 18:46

It seems to me that at the bottom of the screen to set rosters, I had a message that told me the rosters we incomplete.

judy
ID: 48642817
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 19:09

Loki

I looked for it and do not see it in NFL -- I'll ask in the help
thread when I get home.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 22:15

Phew. it looks, so far, like the scoring rules are OK...

Just got home -- will check the line up stuff on Friday.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 00:42

I had an incomplete roster warning when I submitted my first line up. It is in red right below your line up.

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 00:45

(continued) It was 2 separate warnings. One for not enough IDP's, and one for not enough starters. It was right below my starters listing on the screen right after I submitted it the first time.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 07:43

I must have not seen those warnings.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 09:44

Ah -- Thanks Dave

I also checked my settings. You can start a guy who has a bye and it will not invalidate
your lineup. That's the option I set up.

I wonder though if you had to have a complete lineup for last night -- given there
were only two teams playing... I wonder how to check on that -- anybody have that
happen last night? Or did the warning scare you into putting forth a complete line up?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 10:27

More looking into MFL stuff and this is what we have:

Yes, partial lineups are always allowed.
Select this option if owners may submit a partial lineup at any time.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 19:44

Partial lineups have always been accepted. It's up to you to fill your lineup card. Heck I played a couple of weeks w/o the total IDP players during bye weeks last year because I waived a player and didn't start the player I picked up. (dumba$$)

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:11

sweet -- Colston TD!

not real thrilled by Eagles D yet...

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:22

the server just went down!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:30

Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Now you've done it MFL. This had better be fixed asap. ARGH!

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:35

I reclicked and it came right back... phew!

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:40

anybody figure out what the little blue thing is? I see the little football and the little
clock but what is the little blue thing and what does it stand for??

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 13:56

Well, my Eagles are winning, but my Eagles RIFC players are not part of the action! hmmm.

holt
ID: 438311313
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:31

I miss Fanball. The live scoring was so much easier on the eyes.

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:32

holt -- agreed!

holt
ID: 438311313
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:37

the blue thing means they scored points recently.

holt
ID: 438311313
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:39

btw - you have to install that gameday program they have (it's free) if you want to see more detail (like, being able to click on an nfl game and see all the scoring in that game). I think it's better than using the live scoring on the website.

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:50

I am in a CBS pick 'em and I use the live scoring there -- it goes play by play

In 2 of my leagues it is McNabb vs Brees...Philly offense has not had to do much. I hope they
don't get cautious and shut it down -- I need the points!!

Where is everyone --just ref, holt ,and me talking here?

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 15:16

Anybody else watching fox eagles and losing sound periodically?
Or is it my set?

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 15:19

Ok -- they just said it was their fault...

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 15:33

shoot -- Westie and McNabb are out now, resting since we have such a great lead...
not good for us fantasy folks

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 15:48

Who's this Adrian Peterson guy?;)

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:09

And I was worried about the Eagles DEF -- I think they are up to
almost 50 fantasy points -- not for me though :(

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:22

Early report from CSN Philly -- McNabb cracked ribs out 2-4 weeks
Late hit -- he was speared in the end zone after he scored. There had better be a big $$$$$
fine there!
I am doomed!

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:23

MFL live scoring sucks.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:25

That is the second time that the Panthers injured McNabb with late hits, no? The '03 championship game???

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:27

http://myfantasyleague.com/fantasy-football-tools/fantasy-football-gameday.php

Their live scoring program is nice.

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:49

re [86] I like it better than CBS...

Toral
ID: 4155487
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:51

Anything is better than CBS. I mean, they employ Katie Couric....

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:55

"How I met your mother" is pretty good;P

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 18:28

who is 7322595391@vtext.com

i don't have a texting plan so don't want text messages!!??!!

Toral
ID: 4155487
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 18:30

Prob someone from Pittsburgh, Washington, New York, or Dallas ;)

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 21:16

Gonna lose both games I fear. Got over 140 in G24 though...

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 21:49

Well, at least the Eagles won big;) I was checking out my survival pool in Yahoo, and I have picked the Chargers. It has already given me the win saying I picked correctly.

Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 23:12

Ugh last year I lucked out and ended up with the top 2 LBs. This year I think all my IDPs combined didnt get into double digits. This is gonna be a long year methinks.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 00:29

With the Iggles D doing all the work, McNabb getting injured, and no need to jeopardize Westie's
health, I didn't have a chance to score many Iggles offense points. oh, well 0-2 to start the year. No
way I can win either game...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 14:06

wow -- Urlacher out for the season -- wrist surgery this am. That's
a blow to the Bears DEF.

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 21:52

Why don't they just put red jerseys on QB's during the game if you can't do anything to them. The Wilfork hit was clean, yet they call a penality for going low on the QB, when he gets him at the waist. The second be Thomas was questionable, but the crowd was loud, and couldn't hear the whistle probably. Did they throw a flag when the guy jumped on McNabb after he jumped on him 20 minutes or so after he scored the TD? What about yesterday, Rodgers was getting hit hard, yet no calls at all. And it seems to be that when a lineman hits a guy at his feet from the side, almost behind, when he is rushing the QB is not clean, no?

100

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 21:53

Pats look rusty too, btw.

101

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 22:14

Wow, what a finish to that game, gotta feel for the Bills.

102

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 22:23

Man those Patriots are so LUCKY. It's my brother's "team" so he still has bragging rights...

103

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 22:43

I like the voice on that MFL program. Every time there is a socre from around the league the voice comes on and tells me what's up.

104

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 22:43

Why do I get the image of the real Raiders players tied up, gagged, and in their underwear in the locker room?

105

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 23:12

LMAO!

106

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 23:55

Bad call against the Raiders -- catch it high, bring it down, secure it in one arm, take
two steps, twist your body still in control and ball comes loose on ground = TD!

the marque teams get all the breaks!

107

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 01:04

Yep that might cost em the game cuz those points agains tthe SD def is the diff in my game right now. I'd be ahead. Need a score by Oakland w/o SD Def scoring anymore.

108

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 01:25

Woohoo! Even with that SD sack, that TD has me ahead now as long as all the scoring is right.

I lose 4 games by less than 2 points last year and 3 by like less than 1. I could use a break this season! ;)

109

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 01:39

You've got to bekidding me! A pick on the final play is gonna lose this for me? Here we go again.

110

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 08:19

Aside from Adrian Peterson my team was at best mediocre, and if he did not have a game worthy of a #1 pick, I would have lost both games. Peterson will not play like that every week, and I know that the season has just begun, but if my other players do not wake up, the season will be very long.

111

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 11:22

I think my games would have been closer if both Westie (being rested) and McNabbb had played more
downs... Oh, well.

112

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 11:41

Only really close game was Ref (134.48) / mjd (135.56).

The rest were pretty clear!

Waiver wire order looks good to go!

113

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 11:43

I am VERY happy with the accuracy of MFL's live scoring system. Fanball would NEVER be the same the next morning. I gotta tell ya though I was hoping I'd get that point back from mjd somehow. If history is any indication, I will lose a few close games and finish about 4th in the standings again and then go nuts in the playoffs only to lose the championship.

It's my own fault though. I am still surprised on how poorly some of my higher picks did. I guess I shouldn't be as it seems to happen like this every year.

114

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 12:12

The waiver set up is so much easier than FanBall/AOL. Nice!

115

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 13:59

Re 106: you have to maintain control when you hit the ground.

116

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 14:09

I thought I started Cribbs. Must not have hit the submit button. Then Breaston goes from probable to out in the afternoon game. So on Sunday afternoon, I tried to cut a guy playing Monday for another guy playing Monday. I think I could do it, but it was effective for week 2. So, I had to take a zero for Breaston. Luckily, Brees was out of his mind, and I won anyways.

117

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 14:36

What are the rules for waivers/free agents? Are waivers/and or free agent pickups processed sometime on Wednesday? Is there somewhere on MFL that displays the waiver/free agent order?

118

judy
ID: 48642817
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 19:40

Waiver requests sre on the for owners pull down at the top --
waivers
it gives the time for the processing-- l think it is noon weds
then FA pick ups begin at 3 pm
the league home page has the waiver order -- you can add it
to you home page by customizing -- I think one of the options
is to match the commish page

let me know if you need more info -- I am not at home tonight
so use email or this thread

119

holt
ID: 24831519
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 20:03

B7, you should have been able to make that move unless Breaston was already locked in your starting lineup. If the players involved aren't locked for the week yet, should be a legal move.

120

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 22:40

It was around 2:30 my time..CDT. I don't think Breaston was locked. You can do it in yahoo. I could do it , but I couldn't use the new guy until week 2....which didn't do me any good.

121

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 13:56

B7 let me investigate -- but probably not in detail until Thurs/Fri.

I have to admit I was surprised to see Cribbs on the bench as you were so happy to get him!

122

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 14:05

Uh Dave -- a helmet for a logo? Where are those cute bunnies
from last year?? I also need to see a Dragon TD!!

123

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 17:58

I really like what MFL allows you to do--but their interface needs a LOT of work.

124

holt
ID: 24831519
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 18:20

ref - you can do a lot of customizing as far as what shows up on your team pages, not that I've taken the time to mess with it much. the main thing that I like better than fanball is the way you set up claims. other than that, I dunno.

125

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 18:46

hey REF -- you can really mess with your interface a LOT. Choose commissioner's option to
see what I did for the league home page! It's in the upper right "customize page". Play
with the options.

126

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 18:57

judy, not starting Cribbs was my fault. Don't waste time on that, I should have double checked that. Dropping and adding Monday players on Sunday, you may want to look into.

127

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 22:07

#122 I was just experimenting with what was easy, and there were no cutesy bunnies on football helmets. I do not know whether I can browse and what type of graphics files I can use. I think I got Thumper from WORD clip art, and I have updated my Office suite so do not know if I can do that again. I wondered if anybody got the bunnies inference from the helmet - but it was a long reach.

I got a very thorough email for this week's FAD showing all the picks. Did I not see it last week, or was there a change? I was surprised that I got 3 people this week. Does that mean my pickups stink?

128

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 22:33

#122 I cannot find Thumper. Sorry!

129

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 22:57

Geez DH -- you had BOTH Urlacher and Posulzny? Probably drafted high up too!

130

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 23:01

dave -- you get to decide what email alerts you want, so I am guessing you changed something??
I don't control that! When I have some more time, I'll try to see if I can pull the bunnies off of your
FanBall team from last year??

B7 -- I'll check into the monday apick ups but players are not locked until their games start so I
am not sure what happened, but I will check it out -- probably not until Friday though.

131

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 23:12

wow -- Mary Travers of Peter, Paul and Mary has died. That was an era...
what a voice she had...

132

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 23:22

#130 I did not change any email alerts, and I have not selected any to start with. I was wondering why I was receiving everyone's transactions by emails, but I thought that was a league setting. I had 13 email notices from this league today. The one I was glad to see was the FAD alert. I saw your bunny email - I will go open it.

133

davepyro
ID: 207351320
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 23:29

My fearsome icon is downloaded. I never thought to Google a photo. How did everyone get theirs?

134

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 00:03

Puff the magic dragon, baby.

135

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 13:41

Re:131-A few months ago we saw one of her last concerts in New Brunswick, NJ. She was in a wheel chair and used oxygen for the entire performance. It was a very bittersweet evening as it was apparent that she would not be alive much longer. The group has an affinity for Central NJ as their first concert after Mary's bone marrow transplant was at the State Theater in New Brunswick.

136

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 13:54

They think the Sunday night game in Dallas will break the all-time attendance record of 103,000.
Jerry is hoping for 110,000. The old record was set in Mexico City.

137

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 14:08

PP and M was the very first concert I went to in 1964.

138

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 17:30

I'd like to know where the 20,000 no seat/stand up folks are going to be. Good thing they can
watch that big screen 'cause I doubt they'll be seeing much live action on the field!

139

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 18:30

You're just jealous Phillie doesn't have something like that...lq

140

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 19:42

Not ay all! I watch from the comfort of my home on HDTV with pauses and rewinds and
inexpensive food and beverages of my choice and clean bathrooms... Actually, on NFL
Sundays it is my Dad's apartment. He's 94 and Sundays are reserved for him -- made him
buy an HDTV so I would keep on visiting though...

141

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 23:49

re MFL options. I really like the NFL news for each player (with times) on the "set lineup" page.
Saves having to dig for that info.

Just out of curiosity, have any of you customized your home page -- if so what did you include
on it?

142

holt
ID: 308491916
Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 17:49

DonkeyHunter and Electro, I'm breaking in a 50" plasma this week. My fantasy mojo will be powerful. Fair warning.

143

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 21:50

Madden stats don't count.

144

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 08:03

That's funny. Almost an lol.

145

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:40

I am the only one that can't get into the MFL homepage to do some last minute check ups?

146

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:43

NE1 having problems getting into MFL this AM? I've been trying for over 30 min w/o any luck. getting a 503 Service unavaiable msg.

Judy - Those 20,000+ $29.00 ticket holders are on giant "patios" in the endzones. JJ say's he can get 30,000 on them, but I'd hate to be there if he does. They can watch the game on the Jerrytron. it's so huge, it's stupid.

147

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:45

it now says "server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems"

148

twilson
ID: 266581621
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:54

Yeah me too. I got in temporarily, but then lost it again. And I need to add a DL or I'll have a hole in my lineup!

149

twilson
ID: 266581621
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:58

Well, here's the IDP lineup I want to set, even if MFL won't let me:

Carter DL
Briggs LB
Cushing LB
Ellison LB
Williams LB
Buchanon DB

Make of it what you will.

150

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:58

Yeah server issues -- I am in now -- post who you want to start in
this post and i will adjust the scores later...

151

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 12:58

mfl blows

152

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 13:01

a few players out too including Wes Welker, McNabb, & Bo Scaife, Tenn to name a few.

153

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 13:03

got it T -- I can't get in either now to fix it.

Post all starting lineups here and I will fix later!!!

154

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 13:08

live scoring is working though...

keep me posted here -- we can use the time clock for deadlines.

155

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 13:10

wilson -- I put in your IDP's and it was accepted. Live scoring now down

What did you want for offense-- it defaulted to your lineup for last week.

156

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 13:18

wahoo 71 yd TD for kolb -- nice -- I do like the kid and he is sure under a lot of pressure today. Now we
need to STOP Brees a little bit better -- although I do have Colston so...

157

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:07

A little pissed off, I wanted to pick up Kolb, and start him in place of Rivers, or just put Orton in because I don't like the match up against the Ravens. I hope that Rivers outscores them both.

158

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:18

Well now, we needed a running game to help out Kolb (oops final int was a bummer) --who did OK
I thought, but where was Westie -- invisible!

Our DEF blew this game!

159

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:22

ST was horrible I heard too. I think that the Hobbs fumble/NO TD and the Kolb Int/NO TD at the beggining of the second half had to do something to the team. They were down by 4, then 18 within 4 minutes???

160

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:27

Anyways, even with the loss, the schedual is really soft the next 3-4 weeks. KC-Bye-TB-Oak.

161

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:31

DST was crappy. On OFF no running game or screens -- I could not figure out the game
plan at all... except to play with wildcat and other stuff -- Westie was not featured at all,
but they didn't used McCoy either????? Kolb is kinda lucky he survived.

Also on one TD (Evans) the guy stepped OOB with his heel and they didn't even see it on
the review.

Oh well.

162

twilson
ID: 266581621
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 18:52

Judy, I would've started Burleson for the injured Bryant. If that's not acceptable since Burleson is already playing, please put in Bess. I don't really mind either way, but I would rather not have the zero. That's the only offensive switch I would've made.

163

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 19:06

t -- no can do after the game starts -- see time clock in issues in [154,155]. I think I was able to set
your IDP because they knew the server issues. I fixed them at about 1:03, but i would have given you
the points because of the time line in [149]. Bryant is locked already so I can't move him which means
I cannot add Bess for you. Sorry.

164

twilson
ID: 266581621
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 19:23

Judy, Bryant not playing was a known thing (what with the team leaving him at home), so I don't really see how the time his team played is relevant. I would've obviously switched him out had MFL allowed me to make the switch. The other problem is that I couldn't see my team's lineup to know what switches I would've wanted to make, and I'm in enough leagues this year that I don't know off the top of my head which players I have on which team. Bess plays tomorrow night, which is why I figured he could be switched in. I totally understand about Burleson not being allowed to be added in.

166

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 21:40

Favorite shot of the day............ Jerry Jones picking his nose on
national TV as they panned him after Romo's pick six.

167

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 22:30

yeah that was pretty good...

168

davepyro
ID: 468542023
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 00:56

I am back online. Bought a new HP PC (should have bot a MAC, I know), and I am now back on my wavecable email account. I finally think I have everything set up. Thanks to Judy for her help. I have decided that my team starters stink as my bench did fairly well this week. Why do I play this game??
I have decided that I do not like the MF site. Is it too late to switch to FanBall, or am I forgetting the problems last year?

169

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 01:13

That was no scratch. It was definitely a pick.

As quickly as NBC showed him, they switched to a different
shot.

Michael's was doing his Madden impression of Favre addoration
when talking about Jerry's temple. Obviously the guy has more
money than sense.

I thought it had a retractable roof, yet the announcers kept
talking about how hot and humid it was on the field. Spend
$1.1 Billion, yet too cheap to pay for the AC for the players and
105K+ fans.

Yeah, I know, anything under 100 degrees in Texas is
considered "chilly".

170

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 01:36

so pissed at myself. I had manningham set to start last night in place of lance moore, then after checking some weekly cheatsheets and seeing L.Moore ranked pretty highly and manningham nowhere to be found, I stupidly switched them back. Can't believe I did that. I knew Moore was a bad play and I had a pretty strong feeling that manningham would be useful for the Giants.

So disgusted with myself. Serious lapse in judgement. I know some of these fantasy experts completely half-ass their rankings and I still allowed them to influence my decision. [insert primal scream here]

171

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 06:48

I completetly understand you. I have Rivers in a couple of leagues, fortunately MFL was down and didn't let me take out Rivers after I saw that he was someone not to start this week. I sat him in place of Mark Sanchez in another league, and because of this, I lost.

172

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 08:31

In another league, I grabbed two IDP's and started the one who got 0 points and sat the one who got 9.5.
Would won the game. Also the illegal trip took Tuck out of the game and that hurt him and me!

I am thinking that it is time to abandon Westie as a reliable FFballerand that is a difficult statement for me
to make. And they absolutely misused him yesterday -- before he was hurt. I thought the Eagles game
plan was a sorry mess of this and that, what's with asking Kolb to throw 51 times?? We probably would
have lost anyway, but to play junk and crappy football is inexcusable.

RE Jone's temple -- How can you count fans if all they get to see are the large screens set up
outside the stadium proper without any view of the field itself? Kinda like the big screen outside
Wimbledon and those college BBall games where they show the away game inside the school's gym.
Should not count! You are not "at the game" unless you can see the field on a regular basis! You are at a
PARTY not a FB game!

What is the TV feed for those screens -- is it the regular TV feed that we home viewers get?

173

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 08:33

Fanball is apparently a mess this year. They made some serious changes that are not
working...

MFL is really not that bad from a commish point of view. Their live scoring needs some
appearance tweeking, but it is accurate and quick.

174

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 09:34

Judy,

Have you tried the MyFantasyLeague.com GameDay Program ?

Works well on Windows for live scoring. I don't know if MAC is supported.

175

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 10:22

I asked them and they said -- Windows only... :(

176

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 13:21

Q

The PD stat. Does the IDP have to actually touch the ball to get a credit?
Or what?

177

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 14:33

there are various ways to run windows programs on macs. might not be worth messing with just for gameday though.

My interpretation is that the defender has to actually knock a ball down to get a PD.

178

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 19:16

RE the live scoring program, it'll do. Don't want a dual platform -- friends say it is
very "messy" to deal with.

179

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 20:17

Shaping up to be a long season for me and as I feared my WR picks suck. A grand total of 1.8 (no not 18 ;that's 1 POINT 8)for my 2nd and 4th round picks is not going to get me many wins.
Not to mention my Packers looked pretty bad Sunday.

180

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 20:48

Was wondering if I could get the high score this week, was 14.02 behind TD as leader at this time. First play, Clark 80 yds td, 14 points.

181

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 22:16

(178) Bingo, messy is being kind.

The reason to have a MAC is to avoid all things PC. Don't go
looking for problems.

182

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 23:22

This game cannot end fast enough for me.

183

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 00:05

mjd and donkey -- we need (cute) logos for the standings!

I mean we've got a fierce bunny and a puffing dragon (homage to Mary Travers TD?), a few obvious team
followers (titans, nyj, eagles, cowboys, phillies), and interp for "slowhand" and some more. Holt -- what is your
logo? It's cute, but what is it?

184

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 02:33

Rush album cover, Fly by Night, 1975

First album I actually went into a record store and plunked cash down for.

185

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 11:10

RE: 176
The PD stat is based on the scorekeeper at the game. While there are probably 15 different variations of what a PD is there is some statistical evidence that some scorekeepers will call more than others. I remember reading somewhere 2 years ago that the scorekeeper in New England calls a lot more than any other in the league.

186

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 14:14

DH that's a cool logo what with the crosshairs! Whoa!

mjd --yours isn't working...;(

187

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 18:48

I'll play with it again ASAP. Lotta activity going on right now.

188

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 21:29

I just attempted to add Kevin Kolb for Leonard Weaver and MFL
shows that I added Mike Anderson and dropped Jake Delhomme.

Mike Anderson is not even on a team and despite Delhomme's
poor start, I had no intention of dropping him. Not sure what
happened, but Delhomme should still be on my roster and
Leonard should be gone.

189

Donkey Hunter
ID: 568242321
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 22:24

I hope I can avoid the stampede to the waiver wire to pick up Delhomme.

190

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 22:51

LOL. With Hasselbeck questionable, I should be looking to trade
for a QB, rather than being concerned about losing Delhomme.

191

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 00:02

mjd -- want me to do anything about #188??

192

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 00:29

Nah, I'm more pissed about MFL than anything else.

I don't care for it, but it may wind up being the best site for all
RIFC leagues.

I'll learn to live with it and being 4-0 I'll just shut up and
hopefully field a few offers for a QB.

Thank you, though.

193

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 17:28

MJD, is your team logo pointed at another member of our league?

194

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 18:55

Hey -- the refs screwed me outta 2 wins last week in G24 so it's a good logo!!

195

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 19:03

Hey Judy, my parents are moving, and gave me a bunch of my crap that I had there. Most of the stuff is things I had as a kid, and I found a figurine of a Phillie with the name Rawley, a left handed pitcher by the looks of it. Just wondering if the name or player rings a bell.

196

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 21:24

Rawley Eastwick, RP in the 1970's.

Eastwick was a rookie sensation in 1975, tying for the NL
lead with 22 saves, with a 2.60 ERA. He then won three and
saved two in post-season play as the Reds became the '75
World Champions. The 6'3" fireballer saved a league-high 26 in
1976, which, with his 11 relief wins, earned him the NL Fireman
of the Year award. After being traded to St. Louis during a 1977
salary dispute, Eastwick parlayed free agency into a $1.1 million
five-year pact in 1978 with the Yankees. They shipped him to
the Phillies that June 14. Eastwick set a NL fielding record for
pitchers by going 274 consecutive errorless games.

Source: baseballlibrary.com

I remember watching him on TV.

197

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 21:31

(193) No, LOL, but I just couldn't resist when I found it.

198

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 21:57

I only vaguely remember the name...I kinda zoned out on Bball in the mid 70's as I was never at
home to follow the games in the summer time...

199

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 01:19

Shane Rawley, pretty decent lefty from the 80's.

200

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 07:20

Must be Shane Rawley, thanks. My dad is a Phillies fan, so that is probably why I ended up with figuries from that team. I have a Juan Samuel one too.

201

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 13:57

Yea mjd -- you got your delhomme back!

202

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 14:07

Ahhh Juan Samuel . Kind of Soriano'ish...

203

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 20:18

Please remember to set your lineups in time this week. Assume the MFL server
will be very busy on Sunday morning.

Last week, it was just dumb luck that I was able to help people -- you are on your own this
week!

204

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 08:16

The PD stat. Does the IDP have to actually touch the ball to get a credit?
Or what?

It depends which IDP's are on the official scorer's fantasy football teams. This goes for tackles also.

205

holt
ID: 308491916
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 16:51

tackles scoring is very frustrating! I dunno how many times I've celebrated a tackle only to find that it was never credited. I'd really like to know what the guidelines are. Like, if a guy runs out of bounds because he was obviously going to be tackled, does the idp who caused it to happen get a tackle? I'd guess no, but they should, imo.

206

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 13:22

way to go shady!

207

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 16:26

Good thing that I handcuffed Gore, I hope that it isn`t serious. Have to go and check that out.

208

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 16:34

good thing I HC'd McNabb, and Westie! (different leagues...)

Boy -- TB was dreadful statwise! Should probably played D Brown instead -- thought D Ward (27
total yards) would do better...

209

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 16:40

I know that my reasoning sucks for you, but I want McNabb and Westie to sit until the Washington game. We have a really soft schedual until then, including the deadskins it seems. They can get really healthy, and should be about 4-1.

210

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 17:16

I agree with that. I was glad for the rain today as that pretty much guaranteed that Westie
and McNabb would sit and then get healthy. I guess with that flip into a split pose that D
Jack's groin is fine. The Eagles schedule is really soft until the NYG and Cowboy games. I
thought Kolb did a nice job and Shady was pretty good too.

211

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 18:12

I get the feeling that I am going to go 0-2 this week. Just need my guys to keep scoring points. That Gore injury really hurt.

212

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 20:34

Gotta keep Reggie Wayne to under 23.88 points for one win and Warner, Car Smith and Freeney under
53.64 for another...

213

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 07:29

I'm in shock that I won a game this week.

214

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 09:45

Strange how things can even out. In week 2 I had the 3rd highest point total and only won one game. This week I had the 2nd lowest number of points and managed to win one game. So, Thunder Bunnies, I can empathize with you.

215

Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 11:22

man I suck. All 3 of my bench WRs outscored all 3 of my starting WRs. Thats hard to do.

216

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 11:26

The good ones make the hard things look easy;)

217

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 13:58

DH -- been there -- done that!! more than once!

218

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 14:04

Despite my place in the standings, I have a need for a semi-
decent QB.

Have some decent quality depth to trade.

219

davepyro
ID: 468542023
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 01:40

#214 I reviewed all the scores for the first 3 weeks and believe that I had the 4th or 5th highest score of this year on this week, and I lost by 10 points. I firmly believe that league record is at least 25% luck. You always lose when you play the high scorer - no matter how good your team is. You always win when you play the low scorer. So schedule has a lot to do with luck.

220

davepyro
ID: 468542023
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 01:44

I checked in late Monday night, and there was not a single message here on Monday. Was the server down, or did everyone have more important things to do? I just thot it was weird. I kindda wonder about trivial stuff.

221

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 06:47

Whoa, Trotter is back. I didn't realize he was only 32. Even if he can't be the force he was on the field, I think that he can bring some on the emotion that was lost when B-Dawk left.

222

judy
ID: 9729212
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 10:33

Yeah, it was his knees that caused the Iggles to release him. If he can stay healthy
he should really be able to help out -- esp in the leadership role. I also suspect that
Garcia will be grabbed quickly -- my guess is OAK, MIA or TB???

223

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 18:20

B7 -- your building logo "fell down"...

224

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 18:41

Yes. 5:20 PM on September 11, 2001.....in 6.5 seconds.

I unhooked it so my page might load faster on Sunday about 11:30 when I find out if Welker is playing or not. I'll fix it.

225

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:10

HELP!!! I don't know what I did but I inadvertantly dropped Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger and now they are locked and I can't pick them back up.

226

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:22

Don't worry Slowhand. I am certain someone will pick them up for you.Would you be interested in trading for Al Dorrow?

227

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:22

Slow -- Let me see if I can unlock them for you.
BTW -- How on Earth did you do THAT?

228

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:31

I'm not sure exactly how I did it....I thought I was replacing Abraham with Seymour.
Thanks loki for the offer and kind words of support.....;-)

229

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:34

Slow -- ALL FIXED!

230

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:41

Thank you judy....God knows my team needs all the help it can get

231

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 22:46

just an FYI -- I always check this thread before I go to bed (~ 11 pm EDT) to see if anything
crazy comes up.

Use the thread to let the others know and to put a time stamp on your booboo.

If you are desperate (like SLOW was), send me an email as well.

Also, I would love to see more game day postings here as the games are ongoing -- to me
that is half the fun!! My Iggles don't play this week and I am not too excited about my fantasy
prospects for this week, but I'll be chiming in with something!!

232

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Oct 02, 2009, 21:15

Shouldn't the trade in transaction number 37 have gone through
this AM?

It's not reflected in either roster.

233

judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Oct 02, 2009, 23:59

DONE - Sorry -- I was not aware of it. I wonder why. I will need to check the settings.
When I went to the trades pages, it was listed twice. I approved it and it seems to have
gone through.

234

judy
ID: 597401015
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 00:22

Until I figure it out, please let me know (here) about trades so I
can approve them.

Thanks.

235

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 13:31

NP

Thanks, Judy

236

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 15:46

not a lot of close games so far... (the real games that is)

237

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 18:10

Watching the Denver/Dallas game, nice to see that Buck seems to be having some success in Denver in the backfield. I hope that he can stay healthy and have a big year, good guy to root for.

238

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 18:22

Withing 10 minutes of writing this, Buckhalter gets injured, don't know how serious it is. Anyone have a player they want hexed?

239

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 19:50

You don't EVER want to be a Denver RB. They injured seven last year!!

240

davepyro
ID: 468542023
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 20:47

I apologize to everyone for failing to update my starting lineup. I was absolutely sure that I updated it, but I must have failed to save the changes. I did it on Friday, as I went to Mariners game on Saturday, and took my daughter and brother salmon fishing today. I just got home from that. I am very sorry.

241

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 22:13

I wondered what was happening... Esp since you picked up the NE TE on waivers. You'll beat
me anyway though...most of my potentially good players are on bye or on lousy teams!!

There are a couple others who did not update as well...

Did you catch any fish?? Isn't it kinda late in the season for salmon fishing?

242

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 22:19

just noticed NE TE = 0 points so no loss there. pretty much everywhere else your
starters out did your bench -- you have a strong team throughout!

243

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 09:41

Apparently there are automatic "updates" being emailed to you guys from me as commish? I am
not sure I set it up to do that, so I will be checking on it later this week to see what's going on.
It might be an automatic thing???

I count 7 matchups waiting for tonight to be finalized!!

I am hoping that GB wins!!!

244

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 14:28

Finally, I have what I consider to be a successful week. Hopefully the first of many!

What a crazy game last night btw.

The automatic update texts, I don't need. I mean I'm glued to the TV and my laptop all day on Sundays.

245

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 19:12

I am still working on the text/email messages. In the meantime, I think you can turn them off on
your owner's page some how -- any one figure it out? Not everyone is getting everything.

246

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 20:00

I feel like 0-2. Not Good

247

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 21:08

I am really stuck -- I need Ryan to do well to win in G24, but I will lose in RIFC if he does
well. Sheesh!

248

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 23:59

lost... 0-2 but my bye week problems are over for the season so that helps!

Slow -- your bench had 4 TD's and your starters had none and you still beat me!!

249

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 21:54

Boy, I can't believe I finally won one. Sorry judy.

250

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 17:03

Looking for some help with RB's. I would have Portis and Ward to offer, or Portis with another reciever.

251

davepyro
ID: 468542023
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 20:54

Four weeks into the season and only 4 teams have winning records. I guess that everyone is still in it.
I score 161 points and lose a game, and I score 111 points the next week and win 2 games. Go figure.

252

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 21:59

Electroman-trade offer sent.

253

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 22:15

Countered Loki.

254

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 22:41

Interesting counter. I will give it some thought

255

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 07:45

Slowhand, I sent you an offer.

256

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 12:15

Remember to post trades here when you agree so that I can approve them!

257

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 13:15

I am home tonight (FRI), but out all day SAT until Phils game. If you need trades approved,
please notify me here AND by email. I am not able to process any on Sunday either.

258

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 19:59

DERRICK WARD RB/TB is on my trading block.
Any offers -- looking for non bye 7/9 IDP or non bye 7 DST.

259

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 21:30

oops forget that offer in 258 -- I grabbed LB D'Q Jack -- even though he is injured for
this week. I am hoping that the return of my Eagles players will carry the day and D'Q
will be fine for the rest of the season -- as they say "time will tell"!

260

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 22:13

Hey Twilson,

I give up D'Q Jack's points and you give up Gould's, so it's even up??

Hey DS,

It's McNabb and Westie vs Romo and Barber...

261

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 14:09

WHERE IS WESTIE??

As far as I can tell, he's been in on only about 5 plays? Shady not at all. I think the Iggles are treating this as
a preseason game, seeing who else can do what??? (Also no push off on that D Jack catch...)

It's gonna cost me...

262

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 14:26

Ah TD -- don't you wish you had started Maclin...?

263

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 15:29

I wish I hadn't cut him.

264

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 15:34

I cut him too...

265

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 16:00

man - Don's out and Vick is running the show! no more points! UGH!

D Jack has under 1 -- they won't kick to him anymore -- SIGH!

266

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 16:39

GEEZ DS,

If KC knew how to tackle we'd need to wipe out the 2 long TD's
from Romo. Sheesh!

267

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:08

NYG 41-Oak 7

Early whistle by the refs cost the Giant defense, and my team,about 24.5 fantasy points. It negated the forced fumble, fumble recovery, the 95 yard return for a TD, and allowed Oakland to avoid a shut out. OUCH!!

268

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:13

And why would I be so stupid to start Brett Favre over Matt Ryan?

269

TD
ID: 30845718
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:20

I do wish I started Maclin, and I may start him next week and bench T.O. Looks like I will win both games this week anyway because both my Falcon players (Turner and White) finally had a big game.

270

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:43

GEEZ -- Twilson 54.5 points from the Seattle DST and Burleson. I
was doing pretty well until then...

TD -- yeah I am thinking that TO is a hasbeen now.

Loki -- I missed that info -- could use it in G24...

271

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:50

I think that things are starting to take shape now. There are a lot of bad teams, could be quite the race for the first overall pick. Broncos look like they could be for real. 49ers got a wakeup call, nice way to go into the bye week. What the heck is up with Ray Lewis. Stupid, stupid, stupid play that cost them a first down and 15yds. Nice win for the Bengles though, good feel good story. I can't wait for the Eagles to start playing some real competition with the players healthy, week 8 against the Giants.

272

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 19:51

Got the shaft too with with my bye week kicker, nice 0.

273

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:01

I guess I shouldn't count on 250 yds and 2 TDs from Miles Austin EVERY week; but since Roy Williams has been a no show so far this year maybe he can pick up the slack.

274

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:04

Loki -- {267} what happened on the play??

Let's see -- to win 2, D Brown has to outpoint P Manning -- Hey -- Peyton -- hmm how
about some D Brown running TD's instead of passing it around?

Did you see how cold the Broncos/Pats looked in Denver? The Phillies don't play there for
another 2.5 hours. What is MBL trying to do with this scheduling? What kid can stay up that
late from the East coast? I am hoping I don't fall asleep -- will set my watch count down
timer for every 20 min to make sure I can see most of the game!! Game won't finish until
1:00 am or so EDT.

275

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:08

Slow -- if KC could tackle... Austin would have been a nothing...on both long plays the
defender had his ankles. Don't they practice tackling any more in the NFL? Are
offensive players using slippery stuff on their shoes and socks?

Speaking of socks -- those Denver throwback unis looked hideous -- esp the sox and
the leg stripes...

276

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:31

If anyone is looking for a QB, Kyle Orton would be available now that Rivers will be off his bye week.

277

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 21:20

Re: 274-The Oakland ball carrier was stood up and stripped of the ball. The Giants defender recovered the fumble and returned it 95 yards for a TD. The replay showed that the whistle which should not have been blown in the 1st place was blown way after this occurred. The Raiders retained possession and scored their only TD. The missed call cost me almost 25 points!!

278

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 23:48

Loki -- {277} I coulda used those points in G24.

Looks like 1-1 this week for my team thanks to the SEA DST and Burleson's 54 points
that twilsons team got! Sheesh!

JEEZ SLOW -- 2 of your guys score zero points -- you still have the NYJ DST left to play
and you have 172 points. I wonder what the record is... Nice way to get out of the
bottom in the standings!

Someday I will get a DL who will score more than 2 points... maybe...

279

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 01:01

Only needed something like 6.3 points from my 1st rd pick Chris Johnson to pull out a win against DaBomb. He scored a whole 4.3. The Titans suck so hard. I hate them, and I feel sorry for their fans.

The benching of Sims-Walker right before game-time hurt too. I'm lucky I even became aware of it. I quickly benched him and started Holt, but right before kickoff I picked up Mike Thomas and subbed him for Holt. Of course Holt put up 9.5 to Thomas' 4.9.

What can I say about my loss to Slowhand? He started Boss and Galloway who didn't even play, got 4 pts from D. Williams and still stomped me.

A week I'd like to forget. Wouldn't be surprised if Cotchery puts up 20 pts tomorrow. I had to bench him due to him being listed as questionable. Not much you can do about Monday night Q's.

280

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 02:35

WAY TO GO LIDGE!!!

Phils up 2-1

Off to bed!

281

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 14:04

The early injury to Megatron and one of my IDP's being inactive
despite not being on any injury report all week killed any chance I
had for a split.

282

davepyro
ID: 49931216
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 17:04

Judy,
I know I live in a lucky time zone, but I stayed up and watched the Phillies/Rockies game last night clear until the end. There is something fascinating about watching baseball players in earmuffs. An entertaining game and a great result. Congrats.

283

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 17:43

mjd -- who is "megatron"?

Davepyro -- very sleepy today -- so glad the game is at 6 our time today. I hope Lee
pitches a game like last time. Just one more -- for now...

GO PHILLIES!!

284

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 18:35

Megatron is the leader of the deceptacons from transformers. It is also a nickname for Calvin Johnson. I am guessing MJD was talking about Johnson.

285

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 21:22

If a guy runs back a kick, and there is a penalty on the runback, shoulnd't the yards they lose on the penalty not count towards yardage points?

286

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:10

Congratulations Phillies
As bad as my football teams are, I should watch more baseball......

287

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:17

Sorry Judy, but the Phillies have the same chance of beating the Dodgers as the Eagle have of beating the Giants. NONE!!

288

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:24

#285 I am not sure anyone tracks how many yards would have been gained on a return without dirty hands. The penalty yards are tracked, but I never noticed if penalty yards or "spot of the foul" are subtracted from the return yards. I always assumed that position of the ball after the penalty walkoff vs the the location of catching the ball was the recorded return yards. I assume that negative return yards due to penalty are recorded as zero return yards. But I do not know, and never checked return yards in the official box score. I would have to watch an actual game and tally as they go for each returner. This might be a good question for Guru.

289

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:45

Here is the play that I am talking about:

0-0-MIA 30D.Carpenter kicks 70 yards from MIA 30 to NYJ 0. L.Washington to NYJ 28 for 28 yards (R.Torbor). PENALTY on NYJ-S.Greene, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 28

On the stat sheet, Washington is credited for 28 yds, when inreality, it is 18 net after the penalty. I know that it is peanut points, but I find it strange that they give credit for yards that are taken away. Maybe I should write a letter to the NFL;)

290

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 23:18

loki,

The Phillies will beat the Dodgers. And the Eagles will beat the Giants. Just like last year.

291

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 23:29

What a terrible call on the pass interference against the Dolphins.

292

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 00:03

Loki -- NYG DST ref error cost me a G24 game by ~2 pts. PHILS will rule (Eagles too)!

Electro -- agree lousy interference call -- there was NO contact of note!

Davepyro and Electro #2 -- send it in to one of the SI writer guys. The return guy probably
got all those yards because of the penalty! So, maybe they should be deducted! Good
point.

(peanut points lost me a game this weekend...)

TD -- I second those thoughts!

Night all...

293

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 09:29

Miami is light years ahead of every other team with the wildcat. On the winning drive they used three different QB's. They used it a lot.

Don't decide the game on a dubious pass interference call.

I think he gets the yardage up to the spot of the foul....28 yards. And then there is 10 penalty yards. Plus Washington is on one of my teams.

294

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 22:41

It looks like we hit (somewhat of) a jackpot in choosing MFL for our hosting site. Toral in AA
and Wolfer in AAA2 are having a heck of a time with fantrax...What a headache for them.
They are having to do waivers and other stuff manually!

Anyone have any comments so far on MFL? Good or bad?

295

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 23:14

I like MFL. It took a little time to get used to it but after that it was a good decision.

296

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 23:28

It's alright. One thing I don't like is that when searching for players it doesn't list their stats. You need to click on the name to see them.

297

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 07:46

It is pretty good, but I would have to agree with Da Bomb about searching for players. Kinda tedious.

298

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 23:18

The MFL site is OK. It happens to be same software as another league of mine uses for first time. I agree with comment above, but I miss being able to do separate lineups for each game each week. Also, last year I was able to access Fanball at work. Do not know if I could have accessed Fanball this year under new restrictions, but it was convenient last year.
Is there a message thread we can see discussions from other leagues about RIFC stuff in general?
My other league has done weekly manual free agent drafts since 1983, and last week was the first week we all agreed to do it online!! But it was a real pain for our league commissioner, and it takes a lot of time. It has been much easier after we started using email.

299

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 00:02

Could someone send me a link for that SN league site that we were asked to join? It was a set and forget league. In all my computer changes I cannot get there, and I was wondering if at least one of my teams was doing OK. I included my email link.

300

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 13:05

Shoot -- I did not start Harvin...

301

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 13:33

re checking out other RIFC threads -- they're there under football leagues -- Toral
and Wolfer are the commishes.

302

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 13:47

Watching the Giants-Saints game, and people have to stop saying that Eli is as good or better than his brother. He is not!!! Missed a wide open Steve Smith, over threw him, a play which his brother would have made. One thing he does like his brother, puts his arms up, and shows up his teammate. I think that Peyton has stopped doing that.

303

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 13:50

We are not getting the Jints Saints game here in Philly. We've got Minny Ravens Ugh!

304

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 13:51

Giants are getting their butts handed to them.

305

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:53

Yeah -- I've got zero --that's "0" DST points already and no doubt going to the negative
side...

306

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:54

Could Colston and/or Henderson help me out with a TD catch, please?

307

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 15:27

Thank you Marcus/Brees...

308

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 15:37

don't worry judy, everyone I go against puts up huge points. I'm looking to set the all-time points against record.

actually, I may have already set the record last season.

309

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 15:55

Prediction, the Giants go in to the bye at 5-4.

310

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:02

minny balt now tied!

but time to switch to the Iggles!

311

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:08

How bad is Washington? Wow. And how good is Favre? The only other QB that I have seen that I would compare to him would be Elway.

312

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:10

Jints DTS at -7 and counting...(G24)

313

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:28

uh oh -- Iggles are messing around again instead of trying to win big like the Saints.
Akers just missed a chippie...

314

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 17:33

The Giants were due for a let down, but today they plummeted as did my fantasy team. I should lose both games by very wide margins.

On another note, World Series prediction: Dodgers over Yankees in 6.

315

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 17:56

Loki -- in G24 the Jints earned me minus 9 points!

Akers missed another -- Iggles are really out of synch and I would not be surprised to see
them lose this game.

The Phils will win tonight with Lee though. Our bats will come alive!!

316

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:02

So will NE keep Brady out there for the second half? It's 45-0 already. Who is their #2?

317

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:09

they better keep him out there! BREAK SOME RECORDS DAMN IT!

318

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:11

yes there he is!

319

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:18

What happens to the Eagles when they go on the road against a bad team. Not watching the game, but seems like the game against the Bengals last year.

320

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:21

E man

It is a pathetic show in all aspects of the game...

321

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:29

Are they dropping passes, or is McNabb just playing like he can?

322

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 18:36

He is under a lot of pressure and there have been some drops. We also have no running
game. They are shredding our DL and LB and our OL cannot protect McNabb. Akers missed
2 FG. The offense is totally out of synch and there is no running game to settle it down.
Oak is playing inspired as I think they see that they CAN win this one. We also have a
coupla injuries - S Peters early on and Abiamiri just went down.

We could very easily lose this. Lots of 3 and outs. No rhythm at all. And seemingly no plan.

323

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 19:13

Wow, thought it was going to be a cake walk, and so did the Eagles coaches and players. 9 games to go, but this is one that they should have won.

324

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 19:48

E man

I wish I didn't watch the Eagles game.

325

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:03

Haven't heard from Judy since the game ended. Should we send the parametics to her place?

326

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:08

lol

maybe

327

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 23:58

Nah -- I fortunately am a HUGE Phillies Phan so I am going to bed with a big grin on my face.

328

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 08:46

GEEZ TBunnies, your "old" logo has brought you last year's luck - 176.40 pts and counting (V
Jack is up tonight)...

Even with my lousy Iggles players, I might win 2... HOLT is definitely interested in tonight's
game!

Waiting for tonight:
Ghostwood (Weddle, Dumervil) vs HOLT (Gates)
Slow (Chabers) vs DH (with 3 bagels and LT, Royal Broncos DST)
twilson (sproles, DJ Williams) vs HOLT (Gates)
TD (Dawk, Kaeding) vs E man (Rivers)
DH (with 3 bagels and LT, Royal Broncos DST) vs DaBomb (Marshall, Prater, Cooper)

GO PHILLIES!!

329

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 14:05

GO GO GATES

I also have a game riding on Gates and Rivers in a money league. I could easily win or easily lose all these games. Glad it's in San Diego!

330

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 14:05

When will the waiver order no longer be reset?

331

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 18:19

Loki -- after this week's awards, it will go to "get a claim, go to bottom"

332

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 20:37

I have 7 very playable WR's now and I'm looking to move 1 or more for an idp or two. email me!

(cotchery, manningham, nicks, holt, avery, l.moore, maybe sims-walker if the offer is right)

333

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 20:41

I have a bye problem at RB this next week. Anyone wanna help me out? I never should have drafted both RB's in an RBBC situation.

I was gonna enjoy a baseball game last night and it was already 8-0 when I turned it over. Oh well. At least the Yankees lost today.

334

Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 00:16

3 bagels and by far my best week this season. Weird.

335

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 00:22

Thank you Elvis!!

Way to go Jimmie!!

BEAT LA!
BEAT LA!
BEAT LA!

336

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 00:27

DH -- you had a little bit of help from the 2008 version of Eddie Royal...even when he
didn't catch a ball!

TD -- Kaeding was your winner tonight! He outpointed RIvers!

HOLT -- oh well -- there is always next week...

337

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 02:00

nothing like having the 4th highest pt total in the league and being in 12th place at 4-8.
Leading in pts against by a decent margin.

I led the RIFC in points against the 2 previous seasons. fortunately still made the playoffs both times. may as well go for 3 years in a row.

338

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 12:43

That's brutal holt. At least the last two playoff teams are decided by points scored. And you can make the playoffs in RIFC and still get booted down to AAA? What's with that?

After next week's games, the waiver order will be decided by..... what? Worst record or roll forward from this week?

339

judy
ID: 597401015
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 13:02

B7 it rolls, but we need to figure something out. Right now FA drop/adds are
treated in transactions as waivers, which drops you to the bottom if you make a
change... That is not good. We are exploring the options. It is probably a calendar
command...WIll keep you posted.

HOLT -- I've LOST out on the 8th place playoff slots two years in a row because of
lower total points, so I am currently not in sympathy with you!! AND, in playoffs, I
generally get the top or near the top points for both reg and conso playoffs -- go
figure!

Check out {251} from davepyro for more weirdness:
Four weeks into the season and only 4 teams have winning records. I guess that
everyone is still in it.
I score 161 points and lose a game, and I score 111 points the next week and win 2
games. Go figure.

340

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:34

yeah B7 there is a lot of turnover in the rifc. I think maybe the top 4 in the standings stay, and also any other team if they make it to the championship game. so 8-10 of this years rifc teams will be back in AAA next year.

342

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 21:42

judy, you're saying that even if we pick up a player that's not on waivers that it's counting as a waiver move? if so then mfl needs to fix that asap. there's got to be a way to just add a player.

343

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 21:47

After an absolutely terrible week, the Titans of NY are still in 2nd place only 1 game out of 1st. 2nd place is not a problem as the Titans plan on running the table.

As per running the table, Judy and Electro you have no chance as my Dodgers are winning the next 3 against Phillie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

344

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 22:11

Who said I was a Phillies fan?

345

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 12:51

Couple questions.

1. Is the issue discussed in posts 339 and 342 resolved?

2. Where can I see the new order of claims priority listed? I've
searched all over the MFL web site and can't seem to locate it.

346

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 14:22

1) We (RIFC and us) are working on it! We need to add FA add drops via the calendar. It will be
ready for next week.

2) Go to customize page and add the waiver wire listing to your home page to see it. I will probably
have to set the new one for next week by hand after today's claims.

Will keep you posted.

347

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 15:14

Regarding #2-I found the order but...

5 teams made claims today. I did not and Thunder Bunnies and Da
Bomb Squad, who made multiple claims, are still listed ahead of
me on the waver wire order.

Just as I thought I was getting used to this site, it throws me a
curve.

348

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 17:00

RE 296: Found something for searching for players that might help, top free agents. You go on the top to reports, then player, and it lists a few options, including top free agents where you can sort a few things.

349

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 18:18

mjd -- I saw that too. When I hit the radio button just now to reset to a rolling order, it
reset the order based on total points. I am checking with GURU to see if we need to
manually change that to get started. it won't take effect until next week anyway..
it won't affect anything until then.
it is not the site, it's me.

350

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 20:59

#339 It has truely been a strange season and this is only week #7.
I have not figured out the FAD at all. I was supposed to pick 7th so I had 7 picks setup. Including that I have to have another RB to start this week. So I grab every RB I can find and the one QB taken just in front of me. I copied all those RB's to the 2nd round in case I got the QB. Then I end up with second pick and all those others are still there in 2nd round. So I get 2 RBs (one I don't need) yet I still got my #2 LB in 3rd round and my #2 DB in 4th round. Is it just because everyone is waiting until after the FAD and doing straight waivers? My Inbox is totally full with waiver moves.
#347 I had to make some serious changes this week so I made a lot of them. I figured it would hurt me next week if I had any injuries, but if what mjd said is right, then there is something smelly in Boston.

351

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 00:57

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PHILLIES!!!

OK on to FB. I will fix the waiver wire in the next day or so. This week's claims are not
reflected on the new wire order, so I need to adjust it before next week's claims. Will try to
get to it tomorrow...

352

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 01:03

The correct order (for next week) is: Slow, DH, HOlt, DS, GW, Ref,
mjd, B7, TD, EE, TW, NYT, DBS, TB

I will fix on the site tomorrow.

353

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 01:45

dave -- for your later rounds, you probably picked guys no one else wanted!! (teehee)
You were the only one who went 4 rounds with waivers. Anything after 3 pm is a free
agent pick up.

If you don't want all those emails, uncheck that notice -- although I forget where to do
that... I put the transaction list onto my team page (customized) and it is much easier to
look at and does not fill up the mailbox.

354

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 12:18

Waiver wire order for week 7 and beyond has been reset. If you think it is wrong, please let me know.

355

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 18:32

Wow -- first MLB Bradley goes down and now Omar is out for the season leaving Trot and the new guy,
Witherspoon. Our OL is a mess as well -- only one projected started left. So much for power there -- but
we STILL need to run the ball more before Don gets killed back there!

I was so happy to get D'Qwell and then he goes down too! Not too much left on the waiver wire either!!

356

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 18:54

The Eagles are a November/December team. As long as they win two of the next three, they will make the run they usually do in the second half, and they will not have dug themselves into a hole like other years.

357

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 19:36

anyone need a WR - I really do need to move one. I could use an idp most of all, but an RB wouldn't be out of the question. V.Davis is also available if you'd rather have a TE.

surely someone could use a wr, I'm easy to trade with. looking for a fair swap.

358

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 20:42

Witherspoon is good. How did they get him. I missed that trade.

359

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 21:04

me too, thought he was a Ram.

360

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 21:27

eman -- look at the Iggles schedule though -- it's a tough one:
Skins (2)
NYG (2)
Dallas (2)
@ SD
@ CHI
@ ATL
SF
Denver

There is not one "gimme" in there -- except for the skins!

361

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 21:28

they traded for him at about 3:30 before the 4 pm deadline. Good
thing too.

362

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 12:28

Props to the Phillies for beating the Dodgers. My Mom hates the Dodgers going back to their days in Brooklyn so she's really happy. (She can't stand the Yankees since George Steinbrenner bought them so go Phillies!) lol

I was watching an E Special with my lady last night on baseball wives and they profiled Cole Hamels's wife "Heidi Strobel" who was on Survivor's Season 6's "Amazon" show. Heidi & Cole
Heidi's buddy in stripping for Oreos & peanut butter, Jenna, ended up winning Season 6 and began a relationship with the winner of the Africa show (Season 3)- A couple of million dollar winners hanging out. Unfortunately, I think Ethan Zahn is extremely ill now.

363

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 12:33

To clarify a difference from last year:

There is no waiver request for locked players after the Weds noon waiver awards. To get a locked
player, you need to find out when he will be unlocked and sit by your computer to grab him.

Any player picked up after the noon waiver awards does not have any effect on the waiver wire order.

Waivers (beginning in week 7) are now rolling -- get a pick, go to the bottom.

364

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 14:00

The difference maker in the NLCS was Manny's inability to hit. He was never the same after his 50 game suspension.

DS-Most Brooklyn fans became Mets fans. A few remained Dodger fans(I did), none became Yankee fans (and if they did, they were not truly Dodger fans),but this is the first time I have heard of one switching to the Phillies. Is your mom a Phillies fan or just a Dodger hater?

365

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 21:08

It continues to amaze me that people accept Manny's behavior as "Manny being Manny" and think that
apparently whatever he does is A-OK. He was a non factor when he came back, so why is he still so special?

366

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 02:11

loki - In the beginning (late 30's), she was a Yankees fan listening to games on the radio with her Dad who began booing the Dodgers for all their battles in the 40's & 50's. (Duke Snyder in 55 WS?) She's been to Chavez Ravine and booed the Dodgers in person so she does love to watch baseball. lol

In middle age, she disliked the way Steinbrenner "bought" the Yankee teams starting in the 70's and how it changed baseball. Any team playing against either of those 2 is worth rooting for in her opinion. She's followed the Astro's since they were the Colt 45's back in the early 60's and the the Rangers when they moved to D/FW in 1972. We've spent a lot of days roasting in the old Ranger Stadium.

To explain her complicated hiearchial cheering formula, I'd need access to the BCS CPUs to print out the actual code.

Her baseball hero is Joe Dimaggio and everyone other player falls somewhere down below him. At 79, she remembers more stuff from the summer of '49 that 2009. I barely know any of the people she talking about anymore.

Of course I can't remember what I had to eat for lunch yesterday. ;)

367

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 12:34

mfl down

368

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 12:36

I was just on it and it was working, but I didn't try to set a lineup though.

369

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 12:38

I just picked up a player and made a lineup change.

370

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 12:47

I'm in now

371

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 20:20

Man, how can Miami lose that game. They have given two good teams(Indy, NO) wins, by not closing it out. Tuna must be fuming.

372

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 21:09

Down goes my TE -- Finley... probably for a "few weeks"...

Harvin did pretty well today for a late start notice... I just barely got him added in.
Imagine what he could do if his shoulder didn't hurt!

Would have liked that last TD or 2 Pt CONV for Colston though.

Never heard of Leon Hall (DB/CIN) but I grabbed him for a bye fill in -- 16.50
points!

Won't know anything until tomorrow night! Gotta hope Donovan has a better game
vs the Redskins than history suggests.

373

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 21:56

Does anyone know how to turn off that frickin' video ad on the live scoring page on MF? It is so annoying to me that I do not want to keep the page up.

374

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 23:46

Well, the Giants seem to be showing who they really are when they play some competition.

375

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 10:36

Electro-I hate to say it, but at this point in the season you seem to be right.

376

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 17:58

Slowhand, I sent you a trade offer.

377

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 21:29

Iggles look good, but it is Washington. I hope that Westy isn't too badly hurt, but it is the head, so you can't rush him.

378

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 22:23

Iggles D looks good -- Iggles O stinks.

B7 -- it's gonna be close with Westie out (concussion WNR) -- esp if they decide to sit Don -- they
shouldn't though -- he needs practice running the offence.

379

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 22:47

They should work on the wildcat with Vick the rest of the game. Maybe tryout another kicker, also.

380

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 22:53

McNabb is so inaccurate, makes me so mad sometimes. Vick has clearly lost a step, he won't be in the NFL much longer.

381

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 23:39

Electroman....I didn't get it; here's my email if you want to try again

382

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 23:51

Sent you an email slowhand.

I can't believe that I lost by .12 points, on garbage time passes. Actually fortunate that I won a game, and was that close to 2. But to a Cowboys fan??? I will get my revenge in two weeks when the Eagles put the beatdown on the Boys.

383

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 23:55

the Iggles O is in serious trouble -- no rhythym, no plan and McNabb stinks. What a boring
game in what should have been a rout. If not for D Jack, the Iggles would have lost it.

Eman -- you could be in trouble with big D. We stink!

Lost me my B7 game too with his lousy performance. This just might be the last year I draft
McNabb. There, I said it.

384

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 00:00

The Cowboys win after a bye week, at home, and they are all of a sudden the class of the NFC? Romo still sucks, the coach too. Things balance out. I could eat my words, but why would it all of a sudden click in dallas. And Miles Austin, we will see what you can do when teams game plan against you.

385

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 00:03

And Judy, remember that Westbrook was on the bench. If he comes back, the offense is more centered on him, and takes attention off others. McNabb just needs to get into rhythm, and I think that he will.

386

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 00:08

McNabb -- 156 passing yards with 69 to D Jack? Where is this WC offense that spreads the ball
around? 15/25 with 2 to D jack, 5 @ to Maclin/McCoy, 3 to Celek, 1 to Weaver.

Campbell had 284, 29/43, and found free receivers and without that goal line fumble, they might
have won the game.

We are in serious trouble with the opponents coming up.

387

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 01:35

Well my pickup of Witherspoon worked for at least this week.

388

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:33

still looking to deal a wr or 2 (nicks, manningham, holt, avery, l.moore, sims-walker, cotchery), also could deal TE Gates or V.Davis. also have reggie bush who I could possibly deal. surely someone needs some help somewhere.

389

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:34

Antrel Rolle will be part of the Cardinals' wildcat offense. Can he get offensive and defensive points?

390

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:36

Holt-What are you looking for?

391

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:36

just td's has always been the way its worked. no yards.

392

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:39

I could use a top idp. or maybe a deal that can improve my offense somewhere. just depends on what can be offered. anything that can increase my point output I am open to.

393

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 21:57

Holt-Sent trade offer for my IDP ranked #6 for your WR.

394

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 22:08

ok loki - thanks - just heading out for a while but will definitely give it a look tonight. my idp's have been pretty frustrating.

395

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 22:29

holt: I sent you a couple offers. I don't really need a WR, though.

judy: I hope the Phillies win. Not that I'm a big Philly fan, I don't like New York.

396

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 22:45

I would be looking for a RB2 type. I have an extra TE, QB, and some WR.

397

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 22:58

Electroman...got your trade offer sent back a counter offer

398

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 23:01

Got it and Accepted.

Electroman Trades Heath Miller and gets Knowshon Moreno from Slowhand.

399

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 23:37

Slow --please approve #398. I will process on Wednesday -- probably in the evening.

400

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 23:40

Guys -- post and double accept all trades here so I know both
parties agree. Then I will process in MFL.
Thanks.

401

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 01:34

loki, I sent an offer. it involves several players so it might take a while to sort it out.

for anyone who might be interested in shaking their team up, my needs atm are :

A. A QB to fill Brady's shoes this week
B. an upgrade at RB (from Marshawn Lynch)
C. very solid IDP/s

I'm willing to deal Gates and M.Lynch for a studly RB. I'd love to move a WR for a studly IDP.

402

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 12:04

[384] What up with all the hate Electroman? Got a little Trophy Envy? You need to check your all time stats in H2H contests. Ya'll are way down. Maybe that's where the anger comes from but this is fantasy football, not the NFL.

chill out man. We're here to have fun.

403

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 12:22

No anger or trophy envy, just a little annoyed with all these so called experts. They are so flavor of the week. One week, Dallas needs a new QB, and are in trouble. One game, and Romo is back, and has clicked, and Dallas is on its way. And they are hating on Philly, one moron was saying, take away the big plays with D-Jax, and they lose. I say to that, take away the stadium, and you are playing in an empty lot. Sorry, I love the Eagles, and sometimes when you talk against them, it is like you are attacking my child. I guess I put the fanatic in fan, but I lead with my heart, and wear my emotions on my sleeve.

404

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 13:49

the new waiver wire order for next week does not look correct.
Anyone else agree?

I think it should be:
SLOW, DH, DS, Ref, B7, TW, NYT, GW, mjd, TD, EE, DBS, TB, Holt

405

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 15:44

# NY Titans will give
Rolle, Antrel ARI S
# To HOLT for
Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR

406

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 16:35

judy...I sent you a trade offer, and I have not made a waiver pick in two weeks, wherever that puts me.

407

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 17:52

B7 when did you send the trade offer? Did I reply?

408

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 17:54

Titans/Loki -- please confirm trade in #405 (assuming you agree to it :)

409

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 17:57

B7 I found it -- no thanks. I like ELvis!!

410

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 18:20

slowhand - sent you an offer

411

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 18:51

Nicks-->Rolle confirmed.

When will this show on our rosters?

412

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 19:34

Buckhalter is available if anyone is interested.

413

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 21:34

I approve trade in post 398

414

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 21:37

Holt...had to reject your offer although had you got to me before I made the trade with Electroman it looked interesting.

415

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Oct 28, 2009, 21:49

ah, forgot about that

416

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 29, 2009, 00:16

Trades processed!

GO PHILLIES!!!

Wasn't Lee awesome?

417

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Oct 29, 2009, 15:24

http://rotoguru1.com/foot/RIFC/2009/stat_corr_7.gif

hey judy, do you know if our league has stat corrections applied each week? I wouldn't mind having the extra points from the Vikings' stat correction. I know the rifc runs corrections because it changed the outcome of a game this week.

418

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 29, 2009, 17:53

I have not been doing them and I would be leery to start now... Last year I only did them when
owners notified me of errors/corrections -- it was odd things like IDP's scoring offense TD's (like
the fridge did). I have not heard any concerns this year so I have not done anything. I am using
what MFL gives us rather doing (weekly) micro changes later on.
We can look into it for next season...?

419

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 30, 2009, 00:10

Gotta say I did not understand a single word of the WS pregame song. Must be getting old.

Great pitching matchup. I thought Pedro did great! Burnett was a little better. Kinda a boring
game though...

420

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 30, 2009, 20:46

I doubled checked the waivers processed and the MFL set up gives the correct order for next
week and I agree with it (after a manual check up).

It is:

SLOW, DH, DS, Ref, B7, TW, NYT, GW, mjd, TD, EE, DBS, TB, Holt

For some reason it is not listing accurately on my home page (I chose the option to display the
waiver wire order). I've asked the help people what's up and hope to hear from them. However,
in the mean time I am confident that waivers will run just fine for next week!

Does anyone else have the waiver wire order displayed as part of their home page? If so, what
order do you have? It is sometimes confusing to be both the manager and commish when
flipping back and forth, although both of my pages agree -- they are not correct!

421

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 30, 2009, 20:54

great - My RB are going down fast. D Brown is OUT, Westie should NOT play for his own good,
Snelling whom I just picked up is OUT, and Caddy is on a BYE.

That leaves Shady to carry the load. Good luck my man!

422

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sat, Oct 31, 2009, 00:19

I noticed that I had the 14th pick in waivers this week, yet I am sure I did not pick first last week. It really does not matter. I just wanted to know why.
I could use a QB2 if someone was interested. I have not been able to get one the last 2 weeks.

423

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Oct 31, 2009, 13:27

Waiver order is now corrected on home page.

Davepyro, you are #13 for this week.

Remember that each time you are awarded a Weds waiver wire pick, you go to the bottom of the
list. When you have more than one round of waivers, you keep going to the bottom with each
reward. I think you got 3 or 4 rounds of waiver awards last week while no one else had that many.
That's why you ended up at the bottom -- you got the last awarded player.

This week, HOLT had the most rounds awarded so that is why HE is at the bottom. The top 7 guys
had no waiver requests.

There is no waiver wire change for any drop/adds after Wednesdays waiver run.

Does that answer help?

424

deepsnapper
ID: 168481416
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 12:18

Judy, I just logged in and the WW order on my homepage shows:

1. Slowhand
2. Donkey Hunters
3. deepsnapper's Cowboys
4. Ref
5. Building 7
6. twilson's Milchian Magicians
7. NY Titans
8. GhostWood
9. mjd
10. TD Dragons
11. Electro Eagles
12. Da Bomb Squad
13. Thunder Bunnies
14. HOLT

Not sure if that means anything if you've set the order.

Electroman - no problemo. I've been having to listen to all that broadcaster sh^t since the loss to the Giants in the '07 Divisional game. Jones putting a slow growing cancer in the locker room didn't help either. And to think he resigned him for 3 years before last season was the killer! We're eating $10M in Salary Cap for a phantom player. ugh.

Not everyone knows Romo & Austin were on Parcell's '06 scout team when Bledsoe was the starting QB so they've been playing catch for a while. Truth is though, this preseason was a make it or break it 09 camp for Ausin. After 2 years on the IR and '08 on the PUP list, he was out of options unless he proved he could stay healthy. Guess he's off the cut list now. lol

425

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 12:49

DS -- good! thanks for the feedback! It matches #420 so we are set.

426

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 14:30

well now -- THAT's a little better, Iggles... pour it on boys! Make like Brees and NO... or Brady and NE...

TD -- you've got BOTH D Jack and Maclin! Lotsa points for you!

427

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 18:29

Whoa Havner -- another never heard of him pick up scores 2 TD's!!!

428

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 18:32

Judy, how did you decide to start Havner? You hanging around with Troy Aikman? Why do I seem to be playing against all the Vikings and Packers players that are scoring?

429

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 19:27

Well He caught a TD last week after Finley (my guy) was injured and I read somewhere that he was
going to be the replacement this week. I also read that Scheffler's (the other decent FA TE) matchup
this week was not a good one so I decided to waiver for Havner and I got him.

What else can I say? Dumb luck! But I'll take it -- last week both my RB (Brown and Westie) went down
in the 1st Q and I lost one game by a few points.

Yeah Rice (FA pick up) and Harvin (drafted) are studly!

430

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 19:34

Having a good day, now just need the Phils to hit CC all over the park. I am the idiot that dropped Rice after drafting him. What are you going to do?

431

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 20:09

#423 Thanks Judy for clarification. I was assuming it was first round selections only, not who gets the last pick.
Live scoring question: Has anyone had a problem with live scoring of KO returns? I had NE for def on a bye and did NOT want to start Atlanta against New Orleans, so I picked up Miami just for the start this week. Miami had 2 KO returns and they do not show up in the preliminary live scoring. Will the points show up later?

433

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 21:07

Unfortunately, TD points do not apply to KOR or PR TD's for the DST team. Those points
go to the individual player.
DST get the Int, and FR ones though...

434

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Nov 01, 2009, 23:37

Havner is a DE and/or LB in yahoo leagues. my bro picked him up this week as an IDP in some really deep league.

435

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 02, 2009, 01:12

That's what the commentators were saying -- that he would play anywhere, but was a LB
at USC(?). Seems kinda small for an NFL type LB.

436

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 02, 2009, 01:16

Bad loss for the Phils -- Smart play by Damon -- In all my years I have never seen that play before.
Philly commentators did make the remark that a single/walk/HBP from Lidge always means a guy on
second because he cannot hold runners on and they do not even bother to try to throw them out...

Maybe our bats will wake up tomorrow -- that is the bigger issue... we need innings with rallies and
lotsa runs!!

437

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 02, 2009, 13:20

After perusing the lineups for tonight I foresee this possibility when we wake up on Tuesday:

4 teams tied at 10-4
3 teams tied at 9-7
5 teams tied at 7-9
2 teams tied at 5-11

Who said there was no parity in the MFL?

438

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Nov 02, 2009, 15:11

I don't even care about winning games at this point. I'm just trying to put points up.

440

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 00:25

crazy finish there.

441

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 00:28

yeah I was sweating it

sweating the Phillies game too -- those Yankees are relentless. GO Pedro!

442

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 09:18

I do not follow the Phillies during the regular season, but during the Series, Manual has made some strange moves. He can almost get a pass on not starting Lee in game 4, but not for leaving Lee in long enough to let the Yankees get back into the game. Also why did Manual leave Ibanez in left field as better fielder would have caught that ball? The TV commentators pointed this one out.

443

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 11:04

Not sure about that defensive move and Victorino was obviously NOT HAPPY about it. His finger
was swelling by the moment and maybe they figured he could not throw? I would have left him in
center and put Francisco in left. Ibanez got to that ball, he just had his glove in the wrong place -
- it would have been an awesome play if he had caught it...I am also thinking he left Ibanez in in
case we needed his bat. Victorino has been awful at the plate...

Howard needs to step up soon... He looks lost at the plate although I have to say that he has been
the victim of more than a few high/outside third strike calls.

This series is not over yet...

444

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 12:23

I have a feeling that the short rest could start catching up to the Yanks. CC seemed to labor through a couple of innings, but got out of it, and last night Burnett was not good at all. I will be interested to see how it goes the rest of the way.

445

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 13:37

re {437}

BINGO!

446

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 04, 2009, 17:51

Got WR available. Looking for a decent RB.

Andre Johnson-gonna cost you.
Calvin Johnson-looks to be healthy enough to start
this week.
Mike Wallace-speed to burn. Rookie who's becoming
a bigger part of the Steeler offense every week including 3
rushes in his last 2 games. Ben's newest big play threat.
James Jones-#3 guy to the highest scoring QB in this
format.
Mark Clayton-will need to package another player
with either of these last 2 guys to get the quality I'm seeking.
Got some depth at QB, lesser RB, nice LB, big play DBs, and
extra team D to sweeten the right trade offer.

447

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Nov 04, 2009, 20:48

looking for a defensive lineman, also a defense to use just for this week.

448

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Nov 05, 2009, 00:34

Bummer (Phillies) Damon wins one game, Matsui the other. No one except Utley got hot for us.
No rallies. Sigh. Well at least the core is set for the next few years...

On to the Iggles!

449

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 14:29

B7 trades DE Andre Carter
Holt trades LB Akeem Jordan

450

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 18:36

This trade is approved. Will it take place before Sunday?

451

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 19:28

Per the RIFC rules-If a trade does not receive at least 3
protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If
a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld
in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours
after it is announced.

452

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 20:29

someone please protest it, just to liven things up.

453

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 21:18

Someone put a lot of thought into that rule. It's better than baseball, where it takes about a week.

454

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 22:06

I wonder why I am not getting notified of these trades? I checked that box -- good thing you are
posting them here...

let's see 14:29 is 2:49 pm. I am out until about 8-10 pm Sat but if there are no protests, I'll process it
then. I might be back between 5:30 to 6 but might be in a hurry... so expect later rather than
sooner.

uh Holt -- you want a protest? you're in on the trade!

455

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 22:09

ah I see why I did not get a notice -- you didn't put it formally into the trades set up. Then it
appears in my transactions menu and I can approve it.

HOLT OR B7 please make the offer formal in MFL format.

456

holt
ID: 308491916
Sat, Nov 07, 2009, 01:27

it was formal, b7 offered and i accepted it.

457

holt
ID: 308491916
Sat, Nov 07, 2009, 01:35

weird, he resent the offer and I accepted it again. looks like it worked this time.

458

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Nov 07, 2009, 12:09

oops -- I was logged in as Ghostwood.
Just logged in as commish -- it's there -- will process tonight.

459

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sat, Nov 07, 2009, 22:09

What is the site that you can enter trades and see how they value each team. I think there is a couple of them. Thanks in advance if someone can help me out?

460

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Nov 07, 2009, 23:42

Ask B7 -- he and I and Toral (?) did a crazy three manager draft trade last year. I did
not, however, agree with the assessment of the program. I prefer to go with my gut...

461

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 07:58

link ..........This one is mostly for draft picks.

462

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 14:08

Adrian Anderson and Brett Favre, my 2 top scorers, have byes and my starting RBs are up against the New England defense. I should just concede both my games now.

463

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 14:10

I have hope. Ricky Williams just scored a TD!

464

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 14:43

DH's Warner has 23 points already -- looking, no doubt, to make a point after last week's
debacle...

What's with the Ravens DST these days?

465

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 19:21

The last two weeks, I have lost 2 games by a combined 1.58 points. And it looks like I will lose 2 games again this week. Has not been a good stretch.
Speaking of not looking good, I know there are Giants fans here, so don't look at this as an attack from an Ealges fan, they look like a mess. Was Spags the real brain behind the opertation?

466

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 20:10

Electroman-It was painful watching the Giants' defense let Rivers drive 80 yards for the SD win. The only way that it could have been worse would be if I had gone to the game. My daughter was sick, and I did not feel like going to the game by myself (I have season tickets). Adding insult to injury the SD scoring drive cost me about 4 FPs in our league. I think that I will root for your (and Judy's) Eagles tonight as I really hate the Cowboys but have no such antipathy towards the Eagles.

467

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 20:21

I have McNabb, but TD, my worthy opponent today, has D Jack and Maclin -- hmmm.

We shall see how this plays out as he leads me already by a good bit.

At the very least though, we will both root for the Iggles to beat the cowgirls.

468

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 23:48

I am so sick and tired of watching McNabb throw and peoples feet, throw behind guys, miss wide open recievers. Everyone always defends him saying that he is so great, you should be happy to have him, but they obviously don't watch him. Youth movement is on, bring in Kolb.

469

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 23:56

I always got the impression that McNabb has no touch on short passes. Not that I watch a whole lot of Eagles games...

470

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 00:01

Yeah -- that was a pretty boring game -- no flashes of anything anywhere. Neither team really
"won" that one.

I thought the refs stiffed the Iggles on the ball spot both times.

McNabb did not have a good game -- again, although I give Andy credit for trying to run the ball
more... Where are the deep balls and crossing patterns and screens -- I didn't even see them
called. Kolb'l be gone in FA long before McNabb gives it up.

471

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 00:08

Turnovers, that is what the difference. 10 points off. The second pick was underthrown, and the first, well Maclin should have caught it. Very close, and boring game. I'll give the Cowboy coaches credit, they did their work and noticed tendency's, Brown biting on double move, and the first have they would throw to #85 on blitz's. Very frustrating. But once again, McNabb missed too many open recievers, that could have been big plays. Westbrook not being there was big also.

472

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 09:48

Not a single 6 pt TD from any of my MFL players yesterday -- that
sure points to losing...

473

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 12:16

474

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 12:23

took me a second, but that's hilarious.

475

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 15:11

haha!

476

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 17:30

pre Monday night projections.
By Tuesday am:
2 @ 12 -6
2 @ 11-7
1 @ 10-8
2 @ 9-9
1 @ 8-10
4 @ 7/8 - 10/11 (too close to call)
2 @ 7-11

High score kudos to TB (166) and HOLT (162 with on player to go).

477

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 23:33

In the game between myself and slowhand, I don't remember
seeing so many points left on the bench in a 6 team bye week.

Holt, looks like the Cincy D turned out to be "servicable."

478

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 23:43

#476 Looks to me like Building 7 is high scorer thanks to the Pitt defense at 170.88. Nice score!!

479

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 09, 2009, 23:49

I feel a bit sorry for HOLT -- he scores 166 and loses! That's downright painful!

I'll be curious to see if the TD v DBS scores hold up with overnight corrections...

Congrats B7 -- nice night for the Stillers!

480

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 09:25

There is an item in FF that I call schedule luck. It can explain a lot about how good your team is, or how unlucky you are. Obviously, if you are high scorer for week you will win, and if you are low scorer you will lose. But what about the other weeks? Here are some stats for first 9 weeks:

LOWEST WINNING SCORE BY WEEK:
#1 134.48 Ref
#2 126.74 Thunder Bunnies
#3 102.26 NY Titans
#4 99.96 Slow Hand
#5 116.14 Ghost Wood
#6 141.60 Ref
#7 122.14 Donkey Hunter
#8 122.16 NY Titans
#9 113.84 Deep Snapper

HIGHEST LOSING SCORE BY WEEK:
#1 139.74 T Wilson
#2 144.00 NY Titans
#3 160.98 Thunder Bunnies
#4 136.18 mjd (2 games)
#5 130.74 Da Bomb
#6 149.48 TD Dragons
#7 147.20 T Wilson
#8 144.48 Deep Snapper
#9 166.48 Holt WOW!!!!!

PLAYED LOWEST SCORER BY WEEK (pts)
#1 (110.80) Electro Eagles(134.78) mjd (135.56)
#2 (96.94) B7 (138.66) Ref (125.28)
#3 (85.64) Holt (127.78) NY Titans (102.26)
#4 (91.96) T Bunnies (111.04) Slow Hand (99.96)
#5 (73.06) Slow Hand (172.84) Ref (127.92)
#6 (97.50) T Wilson (157.74) Ghost Wood (145.76)
#7 (107.56) Ghost Wood (125.32) Ref (122.56)
#8 (118.04) mjd (127.36) Holt (126.04)
#9 (99.22) TD Dragons (129.06) Donkey Hunter (128.04)

PLAYED HIGHEST SCORER EACH WEEK:
#1 (148.98) T Bunnies (112.58) Slow Hand (131.52)
#2 (178.84) NY Titans (144.00) Holt (138.10)
#3 (171.76) NY Titans (102.26) Holt (127.78)
#4 (151.82) TD Dragons (118.86) mjd (136.18)
#5 (172.84) T Bunnies (73.06) Holt (128.84)
#6 (187.00) Deep Snapper (149.42) TD Dragons (149.48)
#7 (176.50) TD Dragons (144.46) Deep Snapper (127.54)
#8 (150.14) Deep Snapper (144.48) T Wilson (127.68)
#9 (172.88) Holt (166.48) Da Bomb (131.86)

481

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 20:44

Quite a few of the same teams that played the highest scorer are the same.

482

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 01:53

mjd - yeah cincy was pretty servicable, though they were starting to slip at the end of the game.

what's funny (and by funny I mean that it pisses me off) is that I cut Tampa Def (20 points) for Cincy (18 pts). Couple that with me cutting TB's Greg White (7.5 pts) after trading for Andre Carter (1 pt) and I'm eating a big fantasy tampa bay sh1t sandwich special.

sometimes you just can't win. or is it, most of the time you just can't win?

483

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 16:01

I saw that, earlier in the game they had as many as 30 points.

484

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 16:11

I want to start 10 idp's this week! having spare idp's basically ensures that I'm going to bench the wrong ones. maybe I should just pick up spare kickers instead.

485

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 17:04

If you pickup a spare kicker, you will probably bench the wrong kicker.

486

holt
ID: 308491916
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 17:49

what's sad is I'm only holding on to Farrior at this point because he's a Steeler. Me and my bro are traveling up to KC next week for the Steelers game and I feel like I should have at least one Steeler on my squad.

btw, who has Mike Wallace? I'd like to trade for him... off to my e-mail.

487

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Nov 11, 2009, 21:05

guilty.

488

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 17:40

trade offer made via MFL.

489

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 18:56

keep me posted HERE guys about the trade so I can approve it!

490

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 19:17

mjd sent an offer and I agreed to it, but mfl weirded out again and the trade vanished (I got a screen that said trade was accepted, then went to my trade page and nothing is showing).

anyway, I've sent the offer back to mjd so he can approve it.

mjd sends WR Mike Wallace
Holt sends RB Reggie Bush

491

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 19:20

I dunno what's going on. I sent an offer and it's not showing in my trade page. I'll keep trying.

492

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 19:21

Mike Wallace for Reggie Bush awaiting approval.

493

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 19:35

TE Vernon Davis said the offense should have their way with them in Week 10. "I think we can destroy their front," Davis said. "The guys up front, I think we can destroy them. I don't see anything spectacular about their front line...Their linebackers, I think we can handle them pretty well. I like DL Adewale Ogunleye. I like the way he's playing up front. He's about the only player I like on their defensive line. I think he's doing a good job."

I wish he wouldn't talk so much. The less he talks the better off he and his fantasy owners are going to be.

494

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 22:29

Judy or other Philly residents, I am intending on going to see the 49ers play the Eagles in Philly this season. I was just wondering what would you recommend for buying tickets. I know that stubhub is pretty good, but just wanted to know if you have connections or something?

495

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 22:35

keep an eye on ebay, you can get great deals there. pretty unlikely that you'll get much of a deal on decent seats from any ticket broker.

496

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 22:40

16 stinking yds and the 4th quarter is starting. couldn't keep your mouth shut, eh Vern?

497

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 00:04

OK I see the trade in MFL -- you each proposed it. (holt -- i looked also and it wasn't there
this afternoon...)

Will process at 19:21 Friday night (7:21 EST) assuming protests are not forthcoming...

498

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 00:07

Eman -- no ideas for you -- maybe TD will know. I usually watch from the comfort of
my Dad's living room. I've used stubhub for Phillies tix. It kinda depends on where you
want to be and what you want to pay...

499

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 00:08

TB -- what a(n awful ) night for Cutler. With any luck, McNabb might do better on
Sunday!!!

500

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 00:22

there's also craigslist, (if you know someone in philly who can help complete the transaction).

I saw some good offers for steelers/chiefs tix on craigslist but didn't know anyone in KC who could help get the transaction done.

I ended up buying a pair off ebay. $80 each (free shipping) for lower part of upper deck, 30 yd line, Steelers side. pretty happy with em. the same tix were at least $120 each at all the broker sites (plus fees).

501

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 11:59

electroman,

You can also buy tickets on the Eagles web site from season ticketholders. It is similar to stubhub.

How many tickets are you planning to buy? I have two season tickets, and some friends have additional tickets in my row who may be looking to sell.

502

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 12:05

I would be looking at 2. Shoot me an email.

503

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Fri, Nov 13, 2009, 21:08

#499 Anyone will do better than Cutler. I should have started Vince Young. I get 307 yards passing from my starting QB for a net of 2.48 points. YIPPEE!! I thought Cutler was the QB steal of the draft, but then what do I know?

504

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 16:00

Twilson-I am watching the end of the NYJ-JAX game, and if you were not following it, it ended in a very interesting fashion. JAX was on about the 9 yard line, and Gerrard handed off to MJD. In order to get the ball back with enough time to come back and score, the Jets defense tried to let MJD score. However MJD gave up the TD by taking a knee on the 1 yard line allowing JAX to kick a FG as time ran out. Smart football play but terible for his fantasy owners.

505

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 16:16

Yeah, real shame;)

506

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 16:17

A bit like the Westie kneel down at the 2 vs the Cowgirls a few
years ago. Cost me a playoff slot!!

507

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 16:19

How many games have been lost with garbage yards at the end of the game?

508

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 16:56

How about the QB kneel downs?

509

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 17:16

First and goal at the 1 and we can't score -- we're afraid to run it and even when we do, it does
not work. What on Earth do these guys do at practice all week? It's not like last week we didn't
see the weakness...

510

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 17:28

OK now they are supposed to be alternating Westie and Shady -- so I start Shady and I
haven't seen him yet!

511

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 18:34

Philly could have put a strong grip on the division the last two weeks, but they cannot execute. Dallas not looking so good at GB, and they generally collapse at the end of the season. Giants don't look so good either. Maybe Washington will come back and win the division.

512

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 18:57

Just in -- Westie has another concussion. They need to shut him
down for the season. His first one was too severe to risk it.

513

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 19:20

Re #507 McNabb INT on hail mary = minus 2

514

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 19:50

Am I the only one that thinks that Tony Dungy sounds like Cleveland from Family Guy/Cleveland show? Exept he talks faster.

515

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 22:21

dungy and harrison are hilarious. not intentionally, of course.

516

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 23:03

I really dislike ALL of the studio people for NBC. The game broadcasters are just OK. I would much prefer to watch any game or NFL high lights on ESPN.

517

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 23:44

WOW
Indy 35 NE 34

518

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 15, 2009, 23:46

They got jobbed on the spot though, but Belichick didn't help himself out not saving timeouts. Quite the game, I thought it was over after the 2nd pick.

519

money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 00:10

The spot was correct. Faulk was juggling the ball while moving backwards. It was spotted where he came to rest on the turf.

520

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 07:55

My beef with the spot it that the ref was behind the player, so it was a judgement call, he just gave him where he landed, instead of where he secured the ball, which was before he landed. But it would have been hard to move anyways.

521

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 12:36

Not a single 6 pt TD from any of my MFL players yesterday -- that sure points to losing...

Above is a repost from LAST Monday -- guys, this has got to stop -- don't any of my players know where the end
zone is anymore -- oh, wait, there are 2 TD's sitting on my bench!

Should split the the games though --like last week, but am surely out of the running for the points for total
tiebreaker.

522

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 15:49

re: 520, post 519 is correct. If you juggle the ball you cannot be awarded forward progress. The ball gets placed where he comes to rest on the turf. The official saw the bobble and even signaled it. He saw the play. So he was in position to call the play. Everything about officiating is a judgment call. Replays confirmed that the spot of the ball was accurate. Hard to have a beef when the play is accurately adjudicated and the official got the play right based on seeing the entire play. So post 518 is inaccurate as to "geting jobbed."

Maybe my team got jobbed as I put my big play guys on the bench for this week on a hunch. I would have had over 200 points. Nah, I'll take full responsibility for my mistakes. Something I wish many others would do instead of finding someone else to blame things on like officials, teachers, principals, deans, coaches or whomever else they choose to blame when someone doesn't excel the way they wish or is penalized for breaking rules.

523

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 15:54

I still choose to blame the fantasy gods/gremlins for the weekly jokes played on me.

524

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 16:01

re 522: big surprise coming from a Colts fan:) That play may not even be the biggest of the game, the Maroney fumble at the goal line may be bigger IMO.

525

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 16:35

RE: 438
uh HOlt -- you are scoring monster points these days -- 160+ the last two weeks --
gunning for one of those last two playoffs spots!

526

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 20:17

Among B7, Ref and HOLT, all at 162+, there are surely not a lot of points left for the
rest of us...

Congrats to you guys!

527

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 20:30

yeah my chances of getting in on W/L are very very slim. It's all about the points.

for the record, I think Belichick made the right call. just guessing on the %'s, I'd put Belichick's move at about 75% chance to win. if they get the 1st down they win, if not they still have a chance to hold Indy. The alternative was to punt and try to stop Manning and crew. What would the odds of that be? 40-50%? Not sure but it has to be lower than 75%.

528

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 21:49

524: No, you're an anti-Colts fan. I'm stating a rule and an OBJECTIVE POV.

527: The odds of losing if you don't go 2 yards is about 85% If it was 4th and inches that's one thing--but two yards? The odds of winning if Indy has to go 70 yards is a LOT greater than 15%. I think it was more arrogance than fear of Manning, but seeing how he just shreaded you the time before--they are both things that will get you into trouble! ;)

I am of the belief that too many coaches punt on 4th and short. The math says you will make it most of the time and more worthwhile than punting. But not making it will get you fired and that scares coaches. But 4th and 2 on your own 28 with 2:00 to go...I'm punting the ball.

529

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 22:01

Out of curiosity, how much was the play short on the 4th down? They were showing a replay, and did anyone get to see how short it was, and where the 1st down was?

530

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 22:33

article at advanced NFL stats

The stats show that Hoodie made the right call, not even accounting for the fact that Manning shredded NE the 3 previous drives.

531

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 22:36

Faulk touched the ball about a yard past the first down, but he bobbled it and got control about right at the first down marker in the air. And then he landed about a yard short. He was being tackled the whole time. They should use that film to train NFL referees, if they did such a thing...lq.

Up until that point, the Colts had 13 drives that resulted in 4 TD's.....31%. Plus they only had 2 minutes left. A lot of things can go wrong in a 80 yard TD drive, even for P Manning.

I can't believe #26 just intercepted a pass for a TD. This thing was over.

532

judy
ID: 48642817
Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 23:07

For G24, good thing I saw the TK and the PD for suggs
before Quinn cheap shotted him...
Nice game for raven def -- finally.

533

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 00:00

re: 530 That's a great site. But you should read farther down where it suddenly turns out to be the wrong call with more factors figured in. BUt still, there are so many uncontrolled facets to a NFL game that you can't really use pure NFL avgs.

I mean let's factor in that the Colts have given up the fewest point sin the NFL this year. That the Pats have given up the 3rd least. Let's talk about how Manning has 1 time out to drive, what 80-70 yds or more? The NE punter was so good that a fair catch was the likely result anyhow. Let's talk about how 3rd and 2 NFL avg is 52%. 2 pt coversions is 2 yds and is less than 45%. Pretty tough to believe 4th and 2 is actually a true 60%. How often is that because a team is down 2 TDs and are forced to go for it and the D is playing prevent D?

Manning hadn't been on his game and was woeful for much of the night but he was great in the 4th and that had to be going through Beli's mind. 'Hell we haven't stopped them the whole qtr what makes me think we could stop them now?'

But let's think about this...Even if NE makes the first down, they can't run ot the clock. They still have to punt w/o another first down--albeit with between :20-:40 left. Also, even if NE doesn't make it and Indy scores--there is still a chance that NE has enough time to get down the field and get a FG. More factors that weren't even considered into the equation. What about the home crowd? Manning/Wayne or Manning/Clark factor? Just not as much of a given as say a baseball batting average or a basketball FT%. But let's face it, if the Pats make it and win the game then he's a genius. He loses the game and he's a dunce. Comes with the territory.

534

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 10:40

FROM GURU RIFC:

Reminder: trade deadline is this Friday (Nov 20) at 11:45 pm.

535

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 10:42

TD and HOLT lead in the race for the 7/8 places on TPF.

536

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 19:43

hmmm trade deadline. if anyone has players on the trade block please post em or email me please.

537

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 19:43

My average PF and PA are identical - 125.7
My record is 10-10.
It fits!

538

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 12:17

My first waiver claim all season and I still can't get Snelling. Guess I'll have to settle for Avery at WR.

I'm open to a trade if we can help each other with our depth.

539

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 23:20

Holt-Trade offer sent.

540

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 13:48

This is the third time this year that one of my starting RB's goes down with an injury early in the game.

541

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 15:33

Colston's returning punts --NOooooooooooooooooo! He'll get hurt; he's too tall!

542

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 16:09

Man, the Jints DST stinks this year... and now OT to make it worse!

543

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 16:27

Wow, seems like the most exciting game was the Browns-Lions game. Too bad it was blacked out.

544

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 17:28

The Giants' defense has been playing so poorly that I made what on paper seemed to be a smart fantasy move. I benched the NY D, picked up Detroit's D and started it against what had been the worst offense in the NFL. This resulted in a loss of 7 FPs as NY's D netted 5 FPs and Detroit's -2. Too much thinking!

TD-Why did you bench TO today; his FP total was 25.7.

545

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 19:42

Looking like another 0-2 week.

546

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 22:00

Man this is a boring game... CHI/PHL
I thought the way we started that it might be exciting, but no, we are back to the ineffective
dullsville offense. If D does not get going, it is going to be probably 1-1 for me with two season
losses to Slow!!

547

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 23:36

Boring game, but I'll take the win for the Eagles. I saw some things that I liked this week. If Philly can just put it together, this division is there for the taking, because it doesn't look like the Giants and Cowboys are for real. But the D has to stop with the injuries.

548

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 12:41

WHOA -- almost 50-50 split run - pass for the Iggles...

Also, tonight's game will determine lotsa winners and losers tonight! The middle of our
standings looks to be crowded tomorrow.

549

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 00:01

If it holds up, HOlt will lose one by .72 and Slow will lose one by .42. Some close games this weekend.
Three tied at 11 -11 and three tied at 12 - 10.

550

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:10

HOLT and TD still hold the top spots for 7/8 places based on TPF.

551

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:15

FROM GURU:

This is a good time to reiterate our rules for the Playoffs, including limitation on roster moves.
You may want to begin positioning your teams for this:
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any
reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final
regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that
player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal
regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the
top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust
only when a claim is awarded.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions -
adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

552

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:28

IN ADDITION:

We will run the following championships:
1**) PLATE SPECIAL for the first round losers of the Championship bracket. Winner of that
finishes in 5th place.
2**) 3/4 PLAYOFF - for the semifinal losers
3**) REGULAR CONSOLATION for teams ranked 9-14. Three winners plus the top scoring
loser move on to a semifinal matchup.
4**) 3/4 CONSO PLAYOFF - for the conso semifinal losers

It looks like MFL has added a ton of options for playoffs, so it looks like I can set them up any way I want!!
It was fun to have a chance to be involved up to the end and to see how your team matched up with those
still in the Championship bracket.

I hope you will all want to participate.

553

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:53

Loki - T.O. has been on my bench for awhile. Going into last week, Maclin has been more productive.

554

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 15:24

TD-You beat me without him, but had I not overanalyzed by starting the Det DEF over the Giants, I would have won by the smallest of margins, 0.08 points. Would have, should have, could have.

555

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 22:53

I was looking over my lineup, and was really considering putting Driver in over Smith. Sometimes position depth is a double edged sword.

556

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Nov 27, 2009, 13:26

There are days when I wish we could do 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE and 3 FLEX. I usually have
some depth at WR, but very little at RB...

557

TD
ID: 23942318
Fri, Nov 27, 2009, 14:10

I always thought fantasy leagues should require 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, and 2 flex (RB, WR, or TE) in starting lineup. NFL teams do not use 2 RBs on many plays, so I don't think fantasy teams should be required to start 2 RBs.

558

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 13:08

An onsides Kick? What are they thinking? First TD for the 'skins in 12 quarters.

I really do wonder about this team.

BTW Saw "The Blind Side" yesterday. Good flick. Bullock was awesome.

559

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 14:06

And where is Revis? On the bench of course...18 points so far...

560

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 16:27

Nice, Eagles win, that would have been a bad loss with 2 games coming up on the road.

561

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 17:17

E'man,

I'll be a bit more pessimistic and call it a "fortunate" win. I hope D Jack and Avant are OK. Shady did a
nice job -- it is pretty clear that he is the future in Philly...

562

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 18:19

Current reports are saying that D Jack has a concussion.

563

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 19:56

Judy, the nature of this game is to bench the wrong player. I kept vacillating between Britt and Avant and of course benched Britt who outscored Avant by about 10 points. Was Avant injured?

564

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 20:52

He was tackled hard to the ground towards the end. He walked off. I didn't
hear any report.

565

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 21:59

Just finished watching the Grey Cup up here in Canada, the CFL championship. Sask. against Montreal. Sask lost the game because they had too many men on the field when Montreal missed the game winning field goal. Then they made the FG on the next try. I can't watch that league, it is such a farce.

566

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 22:17

Which players played in the CFL and then became stars or semi-stars in the NFL? Was Doug Flutie one of them? Electoman, are you Canadian?

567

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 22:42

Judy, I had been watching the live scoring on the MFL.com Game Day program where I never updated my last minute line up change to Kenny Britt. Disregard 563--When I checked the MFL live scoring, I saw that I started Britt. Senior moment or a SNL Gilda Radner Rosanne Rosanadana "Never mind" moment?

568

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 22:50

Yeah, I'm from north of the border. Well, there was Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Flutie also. There must be a few others, but I don't watch or follow the league, so I just know the more storied ones.

569

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 00:27

{566} Didn't Ricky Williams play there for a bit -- I think he got injured early though.

570

Toral
ID: 4155487
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 03:15

Joe Theismann

571

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 21:59

This is the first time I get to see the Saints play this year, and all I can say is wow!!! They are impressive. I am thinking that the Vikings VS Saints conf. championship game is coming, and will be a heck of a game. The winner of that will probably win the SB

572

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 23:42

I'm going to the show. Woohoo. I was up there a couple years in baseball. Now football. I'm not sure how it happened, but I'm ready to go after three years in the minors.

573

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 00:09

Yeah B7 -- congrats you've done a nice job building your team!

574

loki
ID: 351073018
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 08:27

B7-Congrats on your promotion for 2010, but I still have a chance to come in 1st. I think that the race for the 1 and 2 seeds is something like this. Judy, correct me if I am wrong.

B7-Will finish 1st unless he loses his last 2 games and NYTs win both games.

NYT-1st if wins last 2 and B7 loses last 2, based on head to head.

2nd if wins 1 game in week 13.

3rd or 4th if loses last 2 games and Ghostwood and Twilson win their last 2 , based on head to head.

575

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 08:34

Head-to-head we are 1-1. Which I think means we go to the next tiebreaker....total points, where I have a 200 point lead. I think I have 1st pretty much locked up, also as long as I turn in a lineup.

576

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 08:50

I think that he(B7) has it lockup up with the points. Congrats, it is tough up there in the show.

Now, I just need to win and get some points so I can just make it into the playoffs.

577

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 09:31

My mistake. I thought it was the point differential in the head to head, not the team's total points.

578

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 12:36

TD (11-13) and HOLT (9-15) are holding onto playoff spots #7 and 8 with their total points for scores. They
are actually 3rd (TD) and 4th (HOLT) in TPF. TWilson is #2.

I am in a tie for 3rd place with my record, but 9th in TPF, so I need to win one game this weekend ( vs NYT or
mjd) to make the playoffs for sure. If I don't, then it is all dependent on what the others do -- kinda like the
Iggles last season, but I think my chances are better. I hope I get in, I am tired of being in a 7/8 slot but losing
out due to crappy TPF!

579

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 14:55

Good luck, judy. I think our success this year can be traced to one thing that we did differently.... We didn't make a trade with each other. I think the trades we made in prior years were disasters for both of us. I know they didn't work out for me.

580

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 15:17

well I can pretty much guarantee that Westie will NOT be on my early radar next year except as a #3/4 RB. Shady has
proven too valuable to have on the bench, but I hope the Iggles do not go to the dreaded RBBC!

581

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 15:19

Anyone else have any comments on TD's and my suggestions in 556 and 557 about
different flexing for the RB, WR, TE?

RIFC always asks for suggestions about possible changes moving forward...

582

loki
ID: 351073018
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 19:24

Re: 587-I like the parameters of the draft as they stand. Requiring 2 QBs and not having flex positions, makes drafting as well as picking up FAs during the season much more difficult. This helps to eliminates parity with weaker managers and rewards managers who put in their due diligence. This may seem a little harsh, but I think that it makes the league more competitive and more enjoyable.

583

loki
ID: 351073018
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 19:24

Typo-I meant 581.

584

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 23:01

{582} QB's should be RB's??

585

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 23:05

ROSTER ALERT!

This is the last week to make certain changes to your rosters.

Consolation folks -- no roster changes allowed. What you have at the end of this week is what you've got!

Winner's bracket folks -- You cannot add QB, RB, WR or DST. Once you drop a player no one else can have
him.

PLAN ACCORDINGLY

586

loki
ID: 351073018
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 08:04

Re:584 & 582-Yes, I meant 2 RBs.

587

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 08:28

The only thing that I see that I would like to possibly change in RIFC would be the QB points, 4 fo a TD. Here is why. A kicker makes a 40+ FG, and he gets 4 points for a score that counts a 3 points, then if he get 50+, it is 5 points. It is worth more for 3 than 6 points. Yes the QB's get passing yardage, but it just irks me a bit. Or you just make FG's 3 points, no matter how long.

588

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 09:00

I would add points for offensive lineman. I'm not sure how. Or maybe Team Offensive Line. Pancake blocks or something. Least sacks allowed. Over 200 yards team rushing. Least penalties.

589

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 10:51

I meant 6 for a TD, but I think I would just rather 3 for FG.

590

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 19:40

re 588, I wish there was a way to use O-Linemen, maybe use O-Line team units, similar to Defensive team units? I'd even use punters if I had a good way to do it. would definitely be an experimental league, and i don't know of any fantasy sites that provide the stats categories needed...

as far as RIFC goes, I favor leaving it as it is, just for continuity sake. if you're only required to start 1 RB then the value of RB's is obviously devalued quite a bit. 2 rb's is pretty standard.

591

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 12:31

What if you could start 3 RB, 2 WR and a TE?

Would anyone do that?

593

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 13:24

Before the season started, I had brought up the possibility of using a PPR scoring system. This would increase the value of WRs and TEs and devalue most RBs. But under further review I agree with Holt in maintaining continuity.

594

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 13:38

I don't think that there needs to be a drastic change in the way things are done here. It is pretty competitive, and you have to be on your toes all year. Everyone probably has minor issues, but we are all here every July or so when the league starts, so that is a good thing.

595

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 15:12

To be honest, the league is a little too easy. My team is not very good yet I'm still doing ok. There are very good QBs, Ks, Ds, IDPs, etc on FA wire. People load up on the harder positions because of the volume of good players at the other positions. This hurts trading as well. I'm not saying the league is bad at all. I like it. Just don't have to make many tough decisions. For some reason I always stink at WR in this league.

596

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 00:03

Hey Titans - check out this matchup:

Your Favre throws to my Rice and Harvin
My McNabb throws to your Avant

Hey mjd -- who will get more of Rogers tosses? Lee or Finley???
Pos and Ellis had nice games for you Thursday night.)

597

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 11:34

Judy-I will be rooting for Favre to throw to anyone but Rice and Harvin and if does, for those 2 to fumble. For McNabb, I hope he makes Avant his primary receiver but to otherwise have a QB rating of 25 or less. The Titans need one win or one loss by you or Twilson to finish in 2nd place. So Judy I cannot wish you good luck this week.

598

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 22:22

#556 and #557
For RIFC I would like to see 1-QB, 1-RB, 1-WR, 1-TE and 2 Flex (but not same position). I would also then add 1 more roster spot. I would like a little more bench. I also want to include KO returns and punt returns for Def team points.
However, I would like to emphasize that I do not really want to change RIFC too much. I like the league format and scoring in general.
I would also like to try a PPR league if someone knows one.
Minor point but I would like to find a league web page that allows us to use different lineups for either game of a double header. Otherwise, I did like MF, but some people had some problems on Sunday morning.

599

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 00:11

There should be a questionnaire link for you from the f olks at MFL at the top of your home page. If
you fill it out, be sure to mention that we want to be able to set two different lineups for our double
headers.

600

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 14:58

Live scoring (non PC) is way behind today. >6 minutes in some cases...

601

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:32

LOKI

You might get lucky --looks they are letting Vick play in this rout of Atlanta...Hopefully
the same thing will happen to Favre after he tosses TD's to (only) Rice and Harvin...

Winning and losing here is all about LADY LUCK!

602

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:47

McCoy is now being rested too!

I am TOAST! You are SO LUCKY!!

603

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:50

I don't care who is playing, I am enjoying this.

604

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 16:39

Miami beats NE, OAK beats PGH, TB has 469 total yards (and 5 INT) and loses. NO is in OT with WASH.

This is as crazy as yesterday's college games...

605

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 16:42

Any given Sunday. That is why I love this sport.

606

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 17:26

Judy-I copied these rules from our league. Why did Robert Meacham not receive 6 points (live scoring) for his TD on his fumble return?

Rules for QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DT, DE, LB, CB, S Number of Rushing TDs 6 points each// Number of Receiving TDs 6 points each// Punt Return Yards .1 point for every 1// Kickoff Return Yards .04 point for every 1// Number of Defensive & Special Teams TDs 6 points each

607

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 18:04

Hmm: Here is the description for Number of Defensive & Special Teams TDs 6 points each

This is the number of Defensive and Special Teams TDs scored. It includes Interception Return TDs,
Opponent Fumble Recovery TDs, Blocked Punt TDs, Blocked FG TDs, Punt Return TDs, Kickoff Return TDs,
and Missed FG Return TDs.

I think it applies just to DST? I will check on it -- but possibly w/o an answer tonight. Can't email from
this computer -- outgoing port blocked. Will check with GURU.

608

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 20:30

Loki - what was the Meachem play? What was the play in which he stole the ball? I saw a replay but did
not pay careful attention to it? Was he on special teams covering a KO or PR??

609

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 21:37

Here is the description of the play.

"Saints WR Robert Meachem not only scored the tying touchdown in the final minute of regulation, he also made the game's biggest momentum-changing play at the end of the first half. Drew Brees had just thrown an interception to Kareem Moore, when Meachem came across the field, stripped Moore and returned the fumble for a touchdown to tie the game going into halftime."

610

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 21:50

Meacham was on offense but scored what could be construed as a defensive TD. The way the rule is worded, it seems that he should receive 6 points.

611

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 21:54

He should actually get the points for a FF and a fumble recovery too.

612

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 22:04

E-That sounds right.

613

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 22:58

he should get 6 points (judy might have to manually edit it), but offensive players can't receive defensive points. at least that's the way it has been in past seasons.

614

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 23:18

Wow that was an ugly injury -- legs are not supposed to go
that way

615

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 23:20

Yup he gets 6 -- I may need to do it manually.

616

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 23:46

Judy-With those 6 points you will be ahead of me by 0.20 points going into Monday night. Twilson beat Da Bomb by 0.98, so I cannot back into 2nd place and need to beat you to finish in 2nd.

617

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 00:04

From GURU -- only defensive folks can get FF and FR points, so Loki only gets 6 which I will add on
Tuesday after MFL posts its final numbers.

Davepyro -- did I not give you 6 points for one of your guys earlier? I tried to find it in the thread, but it
may have been in an email??

Loki - we still each have one guy going Monday night and who knows what the MFL corrections might be
so it will be close!! Thank goodness for the Harvin garbage time TD!

618

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 00:14

Can someone tell me when it was announced that Carney was not playing for New Orleans today? I was away from a computer all day today helping some friends at a Christmas tree farm, but I had reviewed yesterday's updates late last night. No points at all from the kicker position really hurt this week. OUCH

619

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 00:18

#617 I once asked why Atlanta def did not get points for 2 KO touchdowns. It may have been a private email. No you did not give them to me per the league rules so I was OK with it. Once in awhile I should read the rules.

620

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 00:22

Wow -- tomorrow night's game will be the deal breaker for 6 TCTC matchups as I see it. Both
games for Ref and T Bunnies are on the line and for TB will determine if he gets a top 6 seed. It looks
like 14 wins gets you into the top 6.

Don't forget though we have lots of playoff games set up - see threads #551 and 552. The only
teams not guaranteed two more matches are the three first round consolation losers...

621

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 00:31

Dave -- According to the rules, we give the IDP the points and not the DST. DST only gets INT and
FR TD's, so I think we were OK on that one. I will revisit with GURU to confirm.

623

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 09:35

If I drop Henderson, does it have to be an IDP that I pick up?

624

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 09:54

E'man -- If you are in the champs, yes. If in the conso, no changes of any kind.

Davepryo -- confirmed via GURU: Only DST get INT and FR TD's in the DST category -- in
addition to the player of course. All players get 6 for TD's regardless of how.

Also note for those in the champs, waiver order shifts to top down and then rolls.

625

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 10:18

Davepro-I learned about Carney Sunday morning and then picked up Hartley.

Judy-Going into Sunday night I thought I was in great position to beat you. I thought that Favre's passing points would negate points from your WRs, and then all I needed was a mediocre game from AP.6.5 points from the #1 pick in our draft-pathetic.It will be my DB vs. your TE. I like your chances. If I win , I have 2nd place; losing drops me to 4th.

626

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:07

None of our offensive players really lit it up. For me, I only had Colston's 1 TD; Harvin's was a
garbage time TD. Favre's INT's kinda balanced out the fact that McNabb DNP the 4th Quarter.

You never know what the GB TE's will do since they seem to use both Lee and Finley. Very surprised
that DB Hall did not have a better game vs the Lions.

I saw that Hartley pickup in the transactions -- never heard of him and then he goes and gets you 15
points!

At least we are both in the playoffs -- I think!

627

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:18

I know I need GB Defto come up big tonight. I am not totally sure where I stand though as far as playof implications. Trailing both games coming into tonight. I know GB D could be big tonight--but you never know.

628

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:18

loki -- By my calcs, if I win you tie TW for 2nd at 16-10.

I can only get to 15-11. mjd clobbered me.

629

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:26

As I said, a lot riding tonight and I haven't even looked at the
TPF for 7/8th.

This is what I think it looks like:
B7 20-6 or 19-17 or 18-8
TWilson 16-10
NYT 17-9 or 16-10
GW 15-11 or 14-12
TB 15-11 or 14-12 or 13-13
E'man 14-12 or 13-13
ref 14-12 or 13-13 or 12-14

Anybody wanna look at the TPF?

630

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 12:10

Well I'm 13-11 coming into this week. I could go 2-0 with a big game from GB Def or lose them both. So 15-11, 14-12 or 13-13. I'm in 5th place coming in so looks like if I beat Elctro, I've clinched top 6. I'm behind him by 10.3 points, He has Crosby and Hawk and I have GB D. I am 23.24 behind B7 and he has no one left. My WRs failed me again.

631

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 12:27

After last week, on 3 really had a shot at the 7/8 with points, TD, Holt, and Electro Eagles.

TD and Holt pretty much have those spots locked up. Right now, TD has 3568.20 points with no players left. Holt has 3556.56 with 1 IDP left to play. My team is too far behind and 3502.96 with an IDP and K left.

The real battle is for the 5/6 spots. Me, Ref and Thunder Bunnies. One of us will be left out.

632

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 14:09

Oops, sorry about that Ref, I had you wrong on my cheat sheet

yup you can go 15-11, 14,12 or 13-13

633

holt
ID: 427111315
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 15:00

re 631, I was watching that Electroman. Looks like I managed to avoid disaster, unless something really bizarre happens tonight.

That 54 pt lead I have on you is really only a 27 pt lead. I'm expecting a good game from Ladarius Webb though; should get plenty of KO returns against GB and plenty of opportunities to make defensive plays. Wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens completely implode tonight.

634

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 15:14

You get 6 points from him, and you move into seventh, and don't have to play the #1 seed.

635

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 16:00

Judy-My team is one of the weaker teams to make playoffs and is there due to lucky draws in some weeks. I'll never win the playoffs, so I'll make RIFC 2010 only by beating you.

636

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 21:22

Well I now hoave the points I need tow in. I just need teh DB D to hold on. Need that shut out!

637

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 22:07

FG's, not TD's.

638

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 23:30

Prob going to need a defensive TD now.

639

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 23:33

A.J Hawk would be nice;)

640

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 00:14

So, it looks like the playoff teams are:
1-Building 7
2-Twilson's Milchian Magicians
3-NY Titans
4-Ghostwood
5-Electro Eagles
6-Thunder Bunnies
7-Holt
8-TD

641

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 00:28

I am not so sure about that. Ref and Bunnies are both 13-13 and the next criterion is H2H and Ref was
above Bunnies last week with identical 13-11 scores...I just checked -- Bunnies lost to Ref twice (once by
1.00) so it looks like Ref is IN at #6.

642

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 00:41

For Twilson and NYT, their H2H is 1-1, but TW leads in TPF so he gets second.

So for the Big Boys RIFC next year it is B7, TWilson and NYTitans, plus the winner of champs if it
is not one of those teams.

CONGRATS GUYS!

mjd is also 13-13 but he was 1-1 with both ref and bunnies but behind them in TPF, so "no"

We shall wait for the computer to decide officially --

Good night moon.

643

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 06:09

Judy-Margaret Wise Brown. Illustrated by Clement Hurd. I backed in because of your one loss, but thanks.

644

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 06:34

It think that the two who go to the finals go to RIFC plus the league winner.

Ah, I thought that it was total points, didn't check the tie breakers.

645

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:08

Seedings are:

1-Building 7
2-Twilson's Milchian Magicians
3-NY Titans
4-Ghostwood
5-Electro Eagles
6-Ref
7-Holt
8-TD

I will set it up today and place it and the conso on the home page.

For conso it is 1 v 6, 2 v 5, 3 v 4 which gives us three winners and so we re-seed adding
the loser with the highest point total for the semi's.

646

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:28

Meachem TD is in. Had to enter it twice -- for his stats and for the team stats.

647

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:37

Unreal how I squeeked it. I am a very averae team without any WRs, but if they ever decided to do something, my team could still be pretty secial. We know that Wayne can do it, but Housh and Evans are MIA. I almost started Hixon over Evans last week and prob would have if I hadn't forgotten that he played Thurs night. Hixon is all returns but at leat we know it's sure points. Need to think things through. I usually ahv a "go for it" mentality and hope for an offensive TD but we shall see.

648

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:58

Playoff brackets are all set. I had to "cheat" the system to get the consolation bracket to work. It
will be re-seeded after the first round -- three winners plus the high point loser. I think it goes
winner with highest points plays the loser.

If you see any errors let me know -- we have a full slate of games.

Also remember the PLAYOFF FREE AGENT/WAIVER RULES!

Consolation -- no moves of any kind!
Champs -- NO QB, RB, WR, DST pick ups (drops only)

I am not doing any computer player locks; I am trusting you guys to follow the rules!

649

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:00

My downfall was going 0-8 after starting the season 6-0.

Averaging less than 130 points per game just won't get it done in
this league.

Thinking that Calvin Johnson would continue being a stud WR no
matter who was throwing the ball was my bggest miscalculation.

Congrats to those who made the playoffs and those advancing to
the RIFC.

650

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:04

I need a computer savvy person to put our league standings chart into the 2009 recap
thread that GURU has started.

I would guess team name, record, TPF and TPA or whatever you set up on your home
page.

Thanks.

651

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:07

FROM 2008 RECAP: BIG BOY eligibility:

For each AAA league, I selected the playoff winner plus the top two seeds for the playoffs. In
the instance that the playoff winner was one of the top two seeds, then the third seed was
selected.

So, B7 and TWilson are in for sure, with #3 to be decided.

652

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:13

RE {649} mjd --

Luck is such a big part of this -- remember Bunnies analysis mid season? My team only
has 0.8 average points more than your team does. Because of a one point loss to Ref, TB
finished 8th instead of 6th!

You did have quite an extended losing streak though. Remember last year when YR had
that long mid season losing streak?

653

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:40

I am surprised that I survived my second half collapse and made it in. Started 10-4, finished 4-8. Lost one of my RB's 3 times in the first Q, went 1-5 in those games. And lost 2 games by under 2 points combined. Like you said, luck is involved, and someone has to be unlucky I guess. Happy to be in, but I hate the matchup. Judy has all those Eagles players, want them to beat the Giants this week, but not too badly;)

654

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 13:41

weird, so in a 3-way tie for 6th, you look at head to head records first? not points scored?

655

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 14:26

OOH good point holt -- let me check on that!

656

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 14:43

BAD NEWS FOR REF; GOOD NEWS FOR BUNNIES

FROM GURU: Head-to-head should not be used when there are more than two teams tied. The
tiebreaker in that case is strictly based on points.

Bunnies = 3426.40
ref = 3396.96
mjd = 3366.88

Bunnies is # 6 seed; Ref is #1 conso seed. Will email each and revise playoffs.

657

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 14:50

WAIT!

GURU is revisiting and we will let you know the decision!

658

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 16:00

LOL!!!

I'm in.
I'm out.
I'm in again.

659

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 16:33

Follow the BIG BOYS thread discussion. It looks like Ref is going to be .....

IN!

660

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 20:57

Decision will be made at 9 am Weds.

661

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:02

Please check out #650 and help if you know how.

Thanks.

662

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:38

But how do I know if I need to do a waiver request? I always do it on Tuesday night because I do not have time before I go to work on Wednesday. I absolutely have to leave the house at 6:38am.

663

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 23:37

send it via email just in case you are in the Champs.

664

davepyro
Leader
ID: 017412622
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 00:01

Could someone send me a link for the Big Boys discussion in #659? I cannot find it under football league message threads so I guess I am looking in wrong area.

665

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 00:06

Try Football Forum

666

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 08:28

I don't know what to think about what is about to go down. Total points seems more fair, but when you break down the difference per game, TB scored 1.13 per game, 2.26 per week more than Ref. But Ref scored 56.56 more points in the two head to head matchups, but one win was by 1.7 points. At first, I would be tempted to go TP, but when you break it down, I think the H2H might be the way to go. But put me in either situation, and the situation I would be in would seem the better one.

667

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:27

If you have looked at the RIFC thread, you will know that the decision is to use H2H as the
tiebreaker, so the current playoff scenario stands. As someone who lost out on playoffs for two
years due to the TPF, I can sympathize with Bunnies.

In the end, as Bunnies showed us with his midseason analysis, and as the real NFL teams show us
each week (esp this year with the missed FG and in game injuries), winning and losing can be a
matter of dumb luck.

Good luck to everyone. We have a very full playoff schedule and so you will be able to see how you
woulda, coulda, shoulda, matched up with the other teams each week.

668

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:38

I have deleted Bunnies waiver requests which he made in case the ruling went in his favor. I am
out most of today and tonight, will try an check in later this afternoon in between events.

Please remember the playoff drop/add rules.

669

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:48

My opinion is that it doesn't matter which we choose as the tiebreak. But if we choose to go H2H in a two-team, then it needs to be the same with three teams. If we're going pure points-for as a tie-break then forget the H2H altogether. I would have ruled the same way Guru did--even if it meant losing out on the playoffs for my team.

Now if I can just figure out which combination of players to use, I could cause some problems for my opponents. I know I put that crystal ball down somewhere...

670

holt
ID: 427111315
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:57

Fantasy football is rough. My brother got knocked out of the playoffs in a money league on the final play of the Monday night game. He needed 2 teams to lose so he could get in, both were down by half a point before the last play of the game and it looked like he was in, all he needed was for Flacco to avoid a sack or int. Of course, Flacco got sacked.

He also lost a game this season in that same league on a Thursday stat correction. I guess that unless you totally dominate a league, you have to be prepared to take your lumps.

671

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 10:47

I lost 2 games this season on QB kneel downs at the end of the game. Thats why head to head is tough.

672

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 22:15

Wow, it looks cold in Cleveland.

673

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 00:15

That was a boring game...PGH is done -- roasted and toasted.

674

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 23:43

Is there any way we can graft our playoffs onto your site setup? using Fantrax we apparently have no playoffs ? I has no idea RG AAA-2 would be so bad on Fantrax I really really wish I had joined AAA-1 with you and had an enjoyable season.

675

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 12:12

Valkyrie -- I think it won't work as we do not have rosters for your guys so there is no way to
do the points. Plus the team slots are a pull down menu, so it only lists our teams.

I saw the issue in the thread -- what happened? How could a site not have playoffs?

My first year when I did not know about live scoring, I made up a spreadsheet so I could enter
data and calculate points, but I cannot find it now. I probably tossed it. That is one possibility
but it would take a lot of work between now and tomorrow. And I was just doing my team, not
8 teams.

676

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 17:09

Judy - the only explanation is that it was Fantrax- and we were the guneau pigs- it looks like we may have something up now 2 days into our playoffs so let's hope the problem is resolved or at least fixable. Thanks for your concern and efforts- they are appreciated.

677

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 12:10

Shoot --Percy Harvin is out today. Henderson better come up big.
Let the defense maul Meachem so Colston and Henderson can fly!

678

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 14:11

what's with Live scoring? We're 9 min behind at least...

679

TD
ID: 259162416
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 14:58

What is up with the Thunder Bunnies lineup? Only two players starting?

680

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 15:24

Don't know. You usually get a default of last week's players.

681

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 16:00

Protesting the decision maybe???

682

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 16:12

looks like Welker and Colston are the only WR's in any of our 8 playoff starting lineups to put up 10 pts so far...

683

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 16:14

Looks like you can finally shoot my team in the head and put it out of its misery. What a horrible team I fielded this year. It's embarassing. Shocked I've gotten this far.

684

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 16:56

E'man you and I are trading points like crazy...

I need my Iggles to come up big vs the Jints...maybe 50 points worth?

we've each got one guy going Monday night -- R - Cromartie vs Gore...

685

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 17:22

I hate when refs are not consistent in a game. They call a pass interference in the first Q, then let 2 bad one go, one on each team. Then Rivers throws a pick. Zebras are not supposed to get noticed.

686

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 18:14

This Chargers/Cowboys game is being terribly officiated.

687

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 20:15

If there were no violations/fouls, the refs probably wouldn't get noticed.

688

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 20:27

Big game tonight, for fantasy and real world matchups.

689

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 20:59

let's not give too much action to Vick, Andy. I need points from Don.

690

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 21:29

If I can continue my rant against the refs, they call 2 illegal contact penalties, one was very ticky tack, but they call it, against the Eagles. Then Celek has a Giant drapped over his back, and they let it go. I know that this league is run by money, and this will sound crazy, but I would not be surprised if the NFL tell refs to call Indy, Dallas, and NYG different than others. Given that those are three teams I can't stand, you can't take me seriously. But come on.

691

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 21:34

Celek was mauled!!!!!

692

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 21:35

Way to go D Jack!

693

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 22:10

Yo Iggles, I need a bigger lead going into Monday night...

694

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 22:26

E-man, I've been ranting for full time refs for years.

695

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 22:48

Why do they keep trying to strip the ball, tackle.

696

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 23:04

Agreed -- tackle -- esp Mikell has missed 3 or 4 key ones --
interesting article on cnn.com about "tackling" vs "hitting".

697

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 23:19

What a drive by the Eagles. They are learning how to finish games.

698

TD
ID: 259162416
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 23:20

Great drive by the Eagles to go up by 2 TDs.

699

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 23:56

Weaver is a definite asset. They need to sign him to a
multiyear deal and lock him up.

700

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 00:01

Funny how when Costas was talking about the schedual, he said he Cowboys have 2 tough games left out of the 3. I am assuming he means the Saints and the Eagles. Has he not been watching the Redskins lately? I am happy Philly is finished with them, they could be a spoiler.

701

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 00:42

RE: 695
Here is the tackling vs hitting article:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/13/greene.tackling.football/index.html

702

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 19:07

Nice comeback TD. 38 points by D. Jackson in the Sunday night game. Clutch. It's going down to the Monday night game, but its going to be tough for me.

703

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 19:36

Wow -- we got Halladay long term (Phillies)...

704

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 19:40

Holt and Titans look good to move on, the other two are too close to call...

GO ARIZONA -- stuff those 49ers!!! Score lotsa points vs the SF DST!!! Dansby --
lotsa tackles and a coupla sacks!

For B7 and TD, it'll depend upon Fitzgerald...

705

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 21:47

Looks like you are gonna win Electro -- what's with the AZ offense
tonight -- making the SF def look really good!

706

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 21:52

I wouldn't speak too fast. They can put up a lot of points. I want Gore to keep being used.

707

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 22:20

Wow, I thought that I was going to have to have a huge game from Gore, because I wasn't expecting much from the 49ers D/ST.

Also, the 7/8 teams show that those spots are well deserved by points, and that it was matchups that were the problem this year.

708

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 22:47

oh wow I thought you had that game B7. crazy. can't say I'd be sad to see you out of the post-season though! :D

709

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 22:55

Kurt Warner must be bringing a lot of grown men (and women) to tears tonight. I can just imagine some dude who only needed Warner to put up 5 points (or 1 even).

710

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 00:19

Wow -- the (real NFL) Iggles need to be very scared. They play SF this week.

Congrats to TD, HOLT, Electroman and Titans for moving on.

Remember, B7, Twilson, me, and Ref, there is a plate consolation, so we will play next
week. Winner of the plate earns 5th place.

711

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 11:59

Grats to the winners!

Can anyonre remind me how to change ntoifications? I can't figure out how to quit getting these daily emails about player news.

712

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 12:25

Playoffs are now set again.

In the consolations, since Slow and DBS already played each other, DBS, as the high scoring loser,
has to switch brackets and play mjd.

In the Plate Special, the brackets stay the same so the top two losers play each other as do the
bottom two losers.

We will be able to rank teams from one through 12 based on playoffs so stay alert and put forth
your best lineup!

713

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 14:02

Ref-I'll tell you how to stop the player notifications, if you will tell me how to get the Giants to play defense. The game against the Eagles was painful to watch from the point of view of a Giants fan as well as an owner of their team defense. My chances of winning the playoffs are poor unless NY starts to play some defense.

Go to your team page and follow the link to contact information to change player notifications.

714

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 14:19

You were in pain watching the Jints D? What about watching the Iggles D?

Both stank it up, but I would guess that we missed more tackles than you did. At least the Iggles
players got free!

715

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 15:01

Regardless of the result of the game, Jackson is an exceptionally exciting player to watch in addition to being one of the best offensive surprises in our draft.

716

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 16, 2009, 15:11

I will be voiding Electromans' DST pick up as soon as he gets back to me that he got my
email about it.

NO QB, RB, WR OR DST PICKUPS GUYS!

717

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Dec 16, 2009, 16:10

I saw the rules, and cancelled it. Why did it go through?

718

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 16, 2009, 16:23

maybe you did not hit the "process" button?

I reversed it. You've got Gibson back.

719

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Wed, Dec 16, 2009, 17:03

Yeah, after I thought about it, that is what I didn't do, sorry about that.

720

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Thu, Dec 17, 2009, 00:03

Can I pick up a new IDP?

721

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Dec 17, 2009, 00:18

No moves for anyone in the consolations, so "no".

722

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Thu, Dec 17, 2009, 23:16

Entertaining game. Garrard is actually more frustrating to watch than Mcnabb, at least he throws them at the feet.

Also, Garcon has 4 good weeks, and I decide to start him in back to back weeks, and he does squat. I think he hurt his hand tonight. At least Clark is a monster.

723

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 15:42

DS-Please look at post 648.

Judy-Can you reverse these transactions before tonight's game? No one may want them, but the players should be available nonetheless.

724

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 15:55

Yup - I just noticed these (been out shoveling snow!) and sent DS an email. I will reverse no later than
7:30 tonight. I want to give him time in case he went out after setting a lineup...

Actually the only ones anyone (TD, HOLT, Electro, Titans) can have are Brown, Brown or Landry.
No one can pick up WR or RB.

725

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 17:22

DS moves reversed!
Snow's about 12 inches and still coming down. Been out 3 times already with the shovel --
mostly for some exercise -- very dull day on TV.
Will use the snowblower tomorrow.

726

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 17:26

I might not have enough WR for this weekend. Harvin and Rice are 50-50 for tomorrow.
My backup N Washington is Doubtful and Colston and Henderson go tonight. Will play
Colston, but not Henderson and hope at least one of the Vikings can go tomorrow.

727

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 17:30

I emailed MFL about the game time changes and they replied that have been put into the system
and will be activated overnight.

MFL has been good to us this year. Now if they only give us the chance for 2 separate lineups,
that would be golden.

728

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 17:48

I have an important question of interest to everyone here..... Why didn't you use the snowblower today?

729

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 17:54

Sorry for the pickups guys, Total confusion on my part. Initally, I didn't think I was still playing based upon the playoff rankings in #650 and no mention of a consolation bracket in later posts.

TMK, I was out after week 13. I got an email after week 14 showing I played myself, and I assumed my season was over. Judy sent me an email earlier this week saying I was playing for final consolation "seeding" which I wasn't aware of, so I went thru my roster and had a brain fart on the kicker Rackers (out) & RB Betts (out). I would've replaced Betts earlier as he went out like week 11, but I was so far gone, it didn't think it mattered.

Didn't mean to mess anything up, just didn't realize I was still playing and still can't see a matchup with anyone anywhere. I apologize for the pickups.

Christmas has also made the last few days a little busy. Good luck to everyone in the semi's.

ds

730

Frick
ID: 9103036
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 19:40

Sorry to interrupt, but how many people set separate line-ups? I've played in RIFC for several years and I can't say I've ever used different line-ups. I guess I could if I thought I had to take some chances on injured players to beat someone with a higher expected score, but that seems fairly rare.

731

judy
ID: 48642817
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 19:49

It's for when you can't decide between 2 guys so you play
both and hope that one if them gets you some decent points!
Otherwise you'll probably pick the guy who gets none while
the guy you left on the bench goes haywire!

732

judy
ID: 48642817
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 19:56

DS -- go to the playoffs link and look under condo reseed and
you find your matchup

also -- even if you lose, you have another match next week
for 11th place!

733

judy
ID: 48642817
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 20:00

B7
it's an electric one and it is a pain to get it set up so I am
waiting for the snow to stop. In the meantime, I am getting
some exercise! We have about 14 inches now and the heavy
stuff is supposed to continue until midnight.

It's been a boring day.

734

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 08:19

I would use different lineups every week. Instead of spending time figuring out the optimum player, I would just use both. We weren't allowed to do it it this year. In past years I did bad, but this year I did good. Different lineups didn't work very well for me.

735

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:59

If you have Player A who consistently scores 6 points and Player B who scores anywhere from 1 to 20, I could see starting Player A against an opponent you expect to score 110 pts, and Player B against a team you think will score 160.

I would use two lineups every now and then, mostly with WR and IDP. There are a lot of true coin flip decisions, and if one guy is going to score 3 pts and the other is going to score 13, I wouldn't mind the ability to hedge my bets and start both of em so I can at least get the average points of the two.

736

loki
ID: 5311182016
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 17:20

My computer just crashed and is not restorable without a special disk that Gateway will send me. My data is backed up remotely, but it still will be a tremendous pain. I'll use my wife's computer for lineup changes and to check this thread, but I do not think that I will be able to receive or send emails.

737

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 17:30

Get a MAC!!!

738

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 17:39

ugh. my team is very flat today. need someone to step it up.

739

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 19:25

Geez B7 I can see why you won the league -- but how did you ever decide who to start? Your ODP
roster is really strong!

740

loki
ID: 5311182016
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 19:32

Judy-When this one dies or if I cannot restore the OS with the disks Gateway will send me, I probably will. Now that I will not need to replace my Windows based programs since they can be used on a Mac, there is no longer any reason not to make the change.

741

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 19:36

My team was pretty streaky. I won my first 4, then I lost 6 in a row. Then I reeled off 15 straight wins. Then I lost my last 2. Only in the last week did I go 1-1.

742

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 19:49

craaaaaaaap!! terrible time for my team to have its worst week of the year. wish I had some kind of clue that Wallace was going to score 2 TD's this week. that would have helped. now I have to root for the Viking def to have a great game while Favre and Peterson have terrible games. Is that even possible? Vikings 3, Panthers 0 please. damn it.

743

loki
ID: 5311182016
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 23:28

H-tomorrow's game will be interesting for our teams.

744

holt
ID: 427111315
Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 10:52

I'd put my chances somewhere between slim to none.

745

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 00:14

Week 16 matchups:

Championship: Electro vs NY Titans
Championship 3/4: TD vs HOLT

Plate consolation finals for 5/6: Ghostwood vs TWilson
Plate semi losers playoff for 7/8: B7 vs Ref

Consolation Final for 9/10: DBS vs SLowhand
Consolation semi losers playoff for 11/12: mjd vs DS

Have fun on the last weekend! Go out as a winner!!

746

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 00:45

Pleasant surprise to come home to see that, didn't have access to the computer this weekend.

Also, had a great time at the 49ers/Eagles game, kinda felt bad for all those niner fans getting pelted with snow.

747

loki
ID: 2511592715
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:02

The Giants game is finally over, and I am thankful that I sold my tickets and did not attend the Giants final game at Giants Stadium. They essentially eliminated themselves from the NFL playoffs and did the same to my chances of winning ours. Unless Electro"s remaining players all choke and mine have career games, congrats to Electroman. " We have met the enemy and they is us." Anyone besides Judy recognize this quote?

748

judy
ID: 5321213
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:31

Hey Loki -- I'm not THAT old!

I commiserate with you. The Jints D won me the semi's in G24, but contributed big time to
a probable loss in the finals... Jeckell and Hyde

You watching the Iggles game?

749

loki
ID: 2511592715
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 18:11

No, I am watching my 2nd team, the NY Jets (formerly the NY Titans). In reality my team did not deserve to advance to RIFC 2010. My 3rd place finish and advancing to the playoff finals was more a function of lucky match ups than the quality of my team.

750

Toral
ID: 4155487
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 19:41

Al Capp, loki.

751

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 20:55

That Eagles game was close, the Denver D is quite good. Macho Harris could have almost been blamed single handedly had they lost, stupid penalty and fumble that swung momentum.

752

loki
ID: 2511592715
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 21:02

Not Al Capp, but a good guess.

753

judy
ID: 48642817
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 23:26

It would be nice if the Eagles would play 2 first halves instead
of a 1st and 2nd. They need a bigger KILLER instinct. Next
week's Dallas game will be very interesting...

754

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 09:23

Eagles@Cowboys moved to 4:15 ET kickoff next Sunday announced here this AM.

[747] Walt Kelly for Earthday & I am that old. (high school anyway). lol

755

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 11:42

PLAYOFF LEAGUE

I set up a playoff league for RIFC folks through MFL in which each player gets used once
throughout. I've set it up with 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK and 1 DST. As far as I can tell,
we can have as many teams as we want. I set the scoring to match the RIFC set up.

Do we want any IDP's? I was thinking of 1 DL, 1 LB and 1 DB??? Chime in with thoughts. It
might make it too "messy".

If you want an invitation, my email is listed.

756

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 15:14

DS wins a recording of "Deck the Halls with Boston Charlie."

757

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 15:15

Judy, thanks for the invite, but I need a break from fantasy sports.

758

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 00:04

Alright Philly, let's beat the Cowboys, get the division and the #2 seed.

759

Donkey Hunter
ID: 1511302823
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 00:30

I knew it was Pogo but could not have gotten Walt Kelly or Earth Day from it.

760

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 00:45

OFFICIAL CONGRATULATIONS TO ELECTROMAN

A convincing victory with 161.06 points -- better than anyone this weekend.

So our candidates for the big boys RIFC in 2010 are: Electroman, B7 and TWilson!

I will post the rest of the standings on Tuesday.

Thanks to all who participated in the league this season. You were great to work with and I
hope you had fun.

761

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 00:48

GO IGGLES

(Thank you, Minnesota... and Chicago -- for opposite reasons, of course.)

Do think about joining the playoff league. It should be fun.

762

loki
ID: 3311592911
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 12:59

Congratulations to Electroman, and again thanks to
Judy for commishing. Thanks to the rest of the
managers for contributing to a very enjoyable
season. Happy New Year to all.

763

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 13:34

Championship Bracket:
Electro Eagles over NY Titans
3/4 Playoff: HOLT over TD Dragons

Plate Bracket (first round losers):
5/6 spot: GhostWood over twilson's Milchian Magicians
7/8 spot: Ref over Building 7

Consolation plate:
9/10 spot: Slowhand over DaBomb Squad
11/12 spot: mjd over deepsnapper's Cowboys

NOTE: Electro Eagles had the highest score of the championship weekend: 161.06

764

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 17:27

Congrats Electro, nice to have the champ score the highest point
total for the week. Thanks Judy and thanks to all for a fun season.

765

Electroman
ID: 565182111
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 17:59

Thanks guys, I celebrated by spending the day at the hospital with a broken ankle from playing football, whoo hoo ;)

It was a good year, thanks to Judy for the commish work. You put a lot of time into it, from the draft to the last weekend. Great job. All the other managers made it a very enjoyable league, congrats to Building 7 and Twilson for moving up to RIFC.

766

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 11:26

Thanks to all for a great season! Congrats to Electro and the others who are moving up. Don't remember a worse fantasy season but at least I managed to make the playoffs--even took down the league's reg. season champ for the 7th place game...oh boy. Bad breaks, bad drafting and, most importantly, bad managing doomed me.

I gotta admit that MFL site wasn't as good as I thought it would be--but it was still better than AOL IMO. I did like the program where it talked to you when someone scored. I could be on a different site and hear, "Touchdown, Adrian Peterson" or whomever else was playing against me that week. The site wasn't that intuitive either. I like the CBS site much better but for the price MFL was just fine.

767

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 17:11

Just wanted to add my thanks to everyone in the league and congratulations to those moving up.
Although I had a pretty poor season I really enjoy the competition and camraderie in this league.

As always I'd like to thank Judy for her outstanding work as the commissioner, It's a big part why this league is so great. It's a big job and I really appreciate the effort it takes.

Happy New Year to all; and to those of you that aren't actively kicking my butt in hoops we'll see you on the boards.

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