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0 Subject: RIFC #AAA2 Reg season chat

Posted by: wolfer
- [43840320] Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 14:10

How does everything look? Any concerns?
1The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 14:21
Good now. Thanks wolfer. I'm impressed with the Fantrax site to this point.
2Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 11:12
Alot of activity in this league!

So ummm.. how do people like the website so far? Live scoring seems to work okay, just wish you could see both team's score breakdowns (and all the teams' scores) on the same page. I do like that it's connected to rotoworld news so you get the latest and greatest updates.

I noticed the scheduling is a little odd. In Fanball the schedule was set up so you go:
1,2
3,4
5,6
7,8
9,10
11,12
13,1
2,3
4,5
6,7
and so on

This league is all jumbled up. One of the teams I play this week I also play in week 3. Just different.
3Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 11:57
I think the Fantrax format is far inferior to that which Fanball had- can't see both teams, can't see both games, multiple clicks necessary even to get to points, can't see lineups early well inferior in just about every aspect.
All this is in addition to our site not showing receiving TD points, which I think is a setup ommission and not a FanTrax issue.
So far with no ability to field multiple teams for multiple games and the live scoring deficiencies I'd rate FanTrax as a C- but still functional, just not a site where I'd choose to play and ceetainly not one where I watch in progrss scores but certainly better than nothing.
4Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 13:10
Ummm yeah that is a big ommission. I checked the rules a couple of times over the last couple weeks and just did catch that.

There are no points set up for receiving touchdowns!

Hopefully it is not too late to change this. Otherwise we will have to manually change scores every week.
5Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 13:14
This actually reminds me of the league in AA where the league was accidentally set up so that team defenses got credit for receiving yards and touchdowns. This did not hardly affect the regular season at all but it did the finals game, in which I lost because Buffalo had two returns for touchdowns.

But that time they didn't go back and change the scores.
6Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 13:30
I found something else.

Pittsburgh Defense got 65 points last night!

I think it is a problem with the yardage points.

It's giving those points for every threshold, so it's giving 10 points for 0-124 yards, and then ALSO giving 9 points for 124-200, and so on. So they got 54 points from the yards, 11 from everything else.

I think it should be 10 points for 0-124, and -1 for every threshold following.
7Toral
      ID: 4155487
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 13:34
6: I had the same problem with the AA settings.

All that needs to be done is the unchecking of a box called "Cumulative" in the settings.
8wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 14:05
I think I have both problems fixed.
9Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 16:30
I found another issue:

Tk as listed on the scoring sheet is actually combined tackles, so it's essentially counting assists as 1.5 points. This should be solo tackles.
10Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:39
Checking the live scoring, it's kind of annoying not to see your MNF players. It scared me when I only saw Driver as my WR and I had to check to make sure I had Moss and Owens in my lineup.


Also I have 2 people playing in the noon (CST) games this week. That's interesting...
11Tree, in Texas
      ID: 41371322
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 15:00
i don't even understand the scoring on Fantrax.

is it even possible to view my whole roster during live scoring??? this is kind of annoying.

12Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:44
Same here, I didn't have any RBs listed.

I do appreciate Brees trying to win the league for me by himself.
13Tree, in Texas
      ID: 41371322
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 16:48
Frick - and still don't.

i dont think it lists players who already played, or who are playing on monday.

makes me wonder if anyone involved in fantasy sports was involved in the design of the live scoring gimmick.
14Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:39
I like how they break down all of your stats, I don't like how they don't show all of your players. That needs to be fixed, now.
15wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:57
Re 11-14.

Per the website, it will be fixed. Some of the new things with the upgrades will be:

* Both teams will be displayed on 1 screen side-by-side.
* All players, stats and scores for the ENTIRE matchup (not just the current day) will be displayed.
* All future scoring periods will be viewable
* Live chat rooms
* "On the field" and "Red zone" legend will be fixed.
* Any other inaccuracies you may have come across will be fixed (PLEASE REPORT THESE!)

Anyone have any additions?

16wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 18:48
One more thing. If you want to see all the scores, for now it is on the standings page.
17Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 19:19
There is still something wrong with team defense scoring.

The Dolphins have -4 points showing, which is impossible unless you give up 35+points.

They have 2 sacks and 1 point for giving up 19 points, but it seems like yardage is starting at zero and going negative from there, which would account for the -4. I should have 3 points for yards, not -7.
18The Beezer
      ID: 477382511
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 22:46
Well, if my starting RBs play as well tomorrow as my backups did today, I'll be in decent shape.
19Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 00:05
Well Cutler sure didn't want me to win this week.... Luckily my IDPs played out of their mind this week and I'm in good shape with Moss, TO, Morrison and San Diego D tomorrow.
20wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 09:13
Re 17.

I will check on that.
21Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 11:19
I think it might just be a problem with the live scoring, because if I go to my team page and look at the stats, teamD is correct.
22Tree
      ID: 41371322
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 22:26
man, i wonder when that upgrade is gonna kick in.

it's freakin' useless to even bother using the live scoring right now.
23Jaydog
      ID: 13637720
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 07:16
Another thing that seems wrong is that IDP's are not getting credit for kick and punt return yards. Leodis McKelvin had 97 return yards last night and didn't get credit for any of those. Can you fix that, it won't help me win my game but certainly is important.
24Tree
      ID: 41371322
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 07:44
wow. second highest score of the week, and i go 1-1. amazing.
25Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 08:16
I don't see where they are going to keep track of our point scored for the year, which come playoff time could be a hassle for you wolfer. Either I'm missing it or they aren't showing it.

Also the main league standings is treating the league like it's soccer and hockey, giving us points for wins. Will I get points if I lose on a Monday night games ie: an Overtime loss? :P

Also the player note for TO is exactly what I was saying the entire game: "Trent Edwards didn't try to hit Owens or Lee Evans on too many deep routes. Why go out and get Owens if your not going to play to his strengths? He should see the ball a lot more than three times from here on out, but Edwards needs to take some shots downfield."

Also when did a huge night consist of no TDs? I'm glad TO got 140 yards, but if he's just going to do that week in and week out then I'm going to be a little disappointed. First round picks are supposed to score TDs when they have huge nights... I guess I should be happy to be 1-1 though with some of the other preformances I had.
26Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 08:53
I feel for you Tree, I went to sleep around half-time of the 2nd game and it appeared one of us was going to be in the top 4 of points scored and still get a loss.

It appears you can see points by week or YTD, so hopefully it won't be that bad to figure out the last two qualifiers.
27Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 13:57
While I am sitting at 2-0, I could just as easily be 0-2 given my RB's performance (I.E. If Kyle's team scored some TD's). Just happy that my WR/TE's carried me. With Pittsburgh ready to shut down Forte week 2, i'm going to need another big week from Peyton and the WR's again.

As long as my team can give me 130-140 each week, I'll be there at the end.

28jaydog
      ID: 47818319
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 14:57
Is anyone else sseing this? IDP's not getting credit for return yards. I'm hoping this is a simple change in the league settings.
29The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 19:19
We have an issue. I tried to enter a claim and it turned into a pickup. I immediately dropped my claim so I wouldn't get an unfair advantage but wanted to put this up so others wouldn't run into this. Help!
30wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 21:34
It's fixed. Okay, about the scoring issues. I know about not having the scoring listed. I have emailed them. Until that gets fixed, I have to keep track of it. Should I post it here or on home page?
31wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 21:37
Return yds are also fixed.
32wolfer
      ID: 69331119
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 21:45
Re 30.

Scoring is now on the standings page.
33The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 22:28
Thanks wolfer.
34 fear the monkey
      ID: 78341521
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 22:35
so far i'd take fanball by far. i'm willing to give them a few weeks to tweek stuff. TSN's really on my shit list tho. i'm really getting sick of them.
35wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 23:19
Re 2

The schedule was more me than them. I had to manually add the second opponent eash week, so I went to another website fill in the schedules here. Overall I am also willing to give them a chance to work the bugs out. They did promise an upgrade on the scoring page, and I want to see everything that they add before I pass judgement.
36Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 00:57
just curious (and i'm sure that there is a reason posted somewhere about it) - why isn't yahoo an option again?
37Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 01:30
Got to admit it, despite my two wins this week (at least I think I won) being the guineau pig for FanTrax is getting old fast. Multiple scoring errors, unwatchable live scoring, not even being able to see your own players opponents while setting a roster (one roster for 2 games) and now the waiver wire issue (thanks Beezer for your integrity) this is getting hard to take. I honestly have never enjoyed a 2 win week less but hopefully by Saturday night I will remember only the 2 wins and not the journey to get there??
38Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 08:13
Yahoo isn't an option since they don't allow for double headers. That's an requirement that has black-listed a number of sites.

I have to agree with Tree, have none of the developers ever seen or visited a fantasy site before? Some of the missing items are just idiotic.
39Tree
      ID: 41371322
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 08:56
i'm wondering why we're not using Yahoo, or MFL, both vastly superior to this site.

for all the things this site is lacking, i find is beyond weird, that after an overnight waiver transaction that had me dropping an injured LB for a healthy one, i get an email telling me my roster is illegal.
40Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 09:33
[34] I'm in one league on Fanball this year, and it is terrible. They made a number of design changes, and there have been as many glitches as you've had on this site. Some scoring still isn't correct.

So far, the RIFC experience on mfl.com has been good. It's a complex system to set up - but seems to run well, and the processing seems to work as it should. We were hoping that Fantrax could offer a viable, free alternative, but if they fail to deliver, we'll probably move all RIFC leagues to MFL next year and just deal with the cost.
41Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 10:35
Here's hoping ESPN gets on the ball and fixes some of the problems that we have with them (double headers and defensive yards allowed are the main ones I see)

Fantrax has been OK, I haven't tried to make a waiver claim, as I haven't felt the need to make one yet so I can't comment on that part, but if they actually fix the live scoring then I can see us continuing using it.
42The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 21:55
I have more confidence in Fantrax fixing their issues than Fanball fixing theirs. We'll see if that confidence is rewarded.
43wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 22:41
The ironic thing in all this is that the live scoring in the other sports are not this bad. For example I have a salary cap baseball team, and they update the standings in real time.
44Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 02:04
totally forgot about the whole doubleheader thing. Even if they did make it an option, my guess is that it would only be available for "Yahoo Plus".

Like Frick, I also agree with Tree on live scoring. They should also have a "Box Score" like CBS, Fanball, Yahoo, etc. It would at least allow you to see where your team is stacking up in comparison to the rest of the league.

Oh well...Fantrax does the trick, albeit not user-friendly.

45Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 11:13
It's all there in some form or another, you just have to go through extra steps.

Fantrax will also live update your roster page, so you can click on that and get all of your team's score, and then flip to other teams' scores from there.

But yeah, it's clunky.
46wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 17:04
Did everyone get the email from fantrax?
47The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 20:20
Yeah. I think they're on the right track.
48Pancho Villa
      ID: 88501621
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 21:30
I did get the e-mail, which was impressive. It's nice to see a company with enough humility to admit their product needs tweaking.

In the old days of Smallworld and TSN, we actually knew the names of the guys who administered the games, and conversed with them.

Nice to see Fantrax use a personal touch.
49Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 21:53
I'm glad to see they are going to add the stated features, but shouldn't those features have been in place from the beginning? They seem like pretty basic if not necessary parts.

But I agree, it was nice to see them address the issue and state they working on fixing it.
50Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Fri, Sep 18, 2009, 14:11
Okay, now it's showing me as 0-2 instead of 1-1. What gives?
51Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Fri, Sep 18, 2009, 14:37
I think I have it figured out. Though (thats my QB) only had 109 at the end of the games, being given credit for return yards from McKelvin gave him 4 extra points.

However, the Jets defense should not be given credit for a shutout. Extra points count against points by defense. That should give the Jets 20 points instead of 23.

Sorry to be nitpicky but this is crap to have a win by 10 turn to a loss three days later.
52wolfer
      ID: 49834138
      Fri, Sep 18, 2009, 21:37
Re 51.

I have to disagree. Two other leagues have the Jets with 23.
53Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 02:04
extra points have always counted against the defense. Maybe in the other leagues they can get away with it but this time it affects a matchup.
54Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 08:36
Don't we have F/A? or is everything waivers?

And man, I am so completely disappointed with this website. It is almost like I don't even want to go and check my lineup because it is so confusing and messed up.
55wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 09:13
We do. I thought I have everything set up correctly, but it is not processing. That being said, I can make the moves manually. If anyone wants to make a move today, send me an email of what they want to do.
56 gurudan
      ID: 448251915
      Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 16:25
hey wolfer please ok my claim to pickup mewelde moore and drop chillar
57jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 23:10
Created on Sep 19, 2009 by vampireweekend
Pending Processing
Drop Will Demps - S - HOU
Claim Richard Seymour - DE,DT - OAK
58Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 01:58
I asked the main league about defense extra points and I was mistaken for having thought they counted against the defense.

I apologize for making an issue out of it.

So, are waivers ever going to work properly on Fantrax?
59wolfer
      ID: 468482013
      Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 14:49
I think I finally have the claims working correctly. I have to change the settings manually.
60Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 16:25
The live scoring is now worth having up while watching the game. And it's really fast with the updates. I like it.
61The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 19:26
Yes. Only thing that was annoying me was not being able to see what my reserves are doing, but that info is available on the team roster page.
62wolfer
      ID: 58502021
      Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 22:50
Re 61

Change the parameters to all players playing, and you should be able to see everyone.

Guys, check your email.
63Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 13:04
Are waivers supposed to be on? I wanted to put in waiver claims on a couple of players, but it looks like the transactions went through.
64wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 14:03
It's off becuase there could be a chance that someone drops a player thats playing tonight and pick up another player that is playing tonight. I will put it on tonight.
65Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 15:50
Waivers should start on Sunday morning IIRC.

Otherwise teams will have easy cracks at Sunday performers.
66Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 11:06
Based on wolfer's e-mail I understand what he's saying. At the kickoff of the first game EVERY player is going to waivers and unable to be picked up until Wednesday. Only the players who are in games that have started (and subsequently finished) should be on waivers, while players who have yet to play are free agents. Wolfer either has to allow the first to happen, or have all players be free agents and watch to make sure that the players who are added are players who have yet to play.

Promize's 12:10 pickup of Laurent Robinson on Sunday is legal, but Frick's pickups of Mario Manningham and Jacoby Jones yesterday need to be undone. They need to go through the waivers process.

Some analysis of my team: Oh boy, 0-2 is never good, and I expected a week or 2 of these, but my team looks like it's in some serious trouble. My WRs are showing their age and aren't looking like the studs they'd be. Julius Jones is losing his job to some unknown player, Moreno isn't earning the starting job either, so my RBs are in trouble. Cutler struggled in week 1 and had a decent week 2, but Favre is looking less and less like a solid backup. Greg Olsen isn't seeing any where near the amount of looks I thought he would. San Diego's Defense looks like a sieve right now, and Jacksonville's isn't much of an option with their schedule. The only bright spot is my IDPs but I know I can't rely on guys who are considered to have great games when they get 10 points to carry me. This could be a long season if something doesn't turn around.
67Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 12:39
My team has only had a managerial problem. If I had had Arizona DEF and Manning in both weeks I would be 3-1 and have 80 more points. If Chris Johnson gets 16 instead of 46 I am 0-4 though.
68The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 19:30
Thanks for the clarification, wolfer. That does work much better.

Early take on my team - I have no complaints with how the season is going so far. It sure would be nice if LDT would get healthy, though.
69wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 13:04
It looks like the claims went through, so game on for free agents. If something is not right, let me know.
70The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 19:50
For some reason it let me claim 2 players for 1 drop, so I'm dropping Akeem Jordan.
71Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 08:47
Ugh, my dislike for Fantrax is growing. I put in a claim for Manningham and lost to Slizz (dang players running up the score). Today it says it processed the claim. But I no longer have the player I dropped and I don't have Manningham.

Before it processed the claim it had me behind Slizz still, which it shouldn't since he should have dropped behind me when he claimed Manningham.
72wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 11:01
Frick,

I added Russell and sent an email to fantrax asking what happened.
73Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 11:58
So on Tuesday after week 1, I was 1-1 for the week. Then by Thursday I was 0-2. On Saturday I was 1-1 again. On Sunday I was 0-2. Today, again, I am 1-1.

I don't know what they are doing with the scoring, but can we somehow settle this game between me and (I think) Jaydog? I have 119.3 which never changes, but his score keeps fluxuating between 119.5 and 118.5. Win or lose - I want to make sure it's right. It's not NYJ defense which seemed to be the original culprit. Something else is being added and/or taken away.

I also noticed they were giving extra fumble recoveries to defenses which seemed to be fixed today. You all might want to check and make sure your team D scores from last week are correct.
74Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 12:37
I didn't get my claims in early enough to see if they would go through right. Luckily it seems that one of the players I wanted wasn't picked up and I was able to get one of my backup plan players.
75wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 13:47
Re 73.

It was the Jets D. They changed it back to 23 on Sunday which was the correct points for them. Also, if you want to verify your teams score, use my link in 52.
76Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 11:04
Sorry about that...I was surprised he was there for me!

I'll definitely trade Manningham or Harvin along with Leon Washington for an upgrade at runningback.

Email me if you're interested.

77Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 08:43
Wow, some close match-ups this week and a couple of games could change if official stats are changed.

What are the official tie-breakers if 2 teams are tied and if more than 2 teams are tied. I thought if it was more than 2, it was Points for, regardless of h2h record, but it's been awhile.
78jaydog
      ID: 47818319
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 10:28
Yeah... just needed 10 more yards from Witten and a few more tackles from James. 2-4 would look a lot better now than 1-5. Oh well.
79Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 16:44
#77

I thought it was total h2h record vs. the teams you are tied with, but I could be mistaking that with another league.
80wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 18:59
It is, then the next is points.
81The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 19:28
Wow, I squeaked by in both games (and could still lose). 1.88 over jaydog and 1.08 over gurudan. And wolfer vs Pancho was even closer than that!

My late round picks are bailing me out, as this week my first 5 picks included 2 DNPs, a 0.9, a 3.8, and a 6.4. It's kind of a fluke but I'll take it.
82wolfer
      ID: 148352919
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 20:35
It's about time I catch a break like that! All kidding aside, it was pointed out in the AA league that we have to keep track of something else. We have to manually add for blocked field goals that are returned for scores. It's a moot point this time, since no one has the the Niners. If that happens again, let me know if I do not catch it.
83Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 17:13
Looks to me you might need to track waivers by hand also... Looks completely messed up.

84 Valkyrie
      ID: 210563113
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 22:08
I am not sure what is going on with the waiver situation or even where these things are being discussed but if I got someone I shouldn't have gotten and from what I have seen it is looking that way I would be happy to return him I just want to know where I stand before I have to set my weekly lineups????
Promise that was one tough loss for me to you last week or should I say 1.75 tough loss LOL.
85Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 22:51
Yah bro, was a good game.

As for the waiver situation. I'm not all worried about the player.. But instead I want this league to be ran right.

This website has been absolutely horrible from day one. I've looked forward to playing in this league yearly. But I find myself having a tough time even going out and setting up my lineup because of all the crap.

Sorry gents, just not having a good time in this league at all.

86Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 03:26
Promise I have to agree with you- I too look forward to this league every year and despite being 5-1 with a 1 point loss I am having a lot of trouble with the league too. I say this recognizing the effort Fantrax has put into fixing things and believe me I do appreciate the effort its just that being the guineau pig de bugging everything really sucks. Wolfer I tip my cap to you for putting up with it all you have my thanks and appreciation.
87Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 08:08
I've looked forward to playing in this league yearly. But I find myself having a tough time even going out and setting up my lineup because of all the crap.


this. the site is just too clunky, and it sucks all the joy out of it.

and regarding FanTrax putting effort into fixing the site? um, yea, it's October. that effort should have happened months ago.

88Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 09:46
Big ups to wolfer for exactly what Valkyrie said. We have taken the hard road with a new site that's been untested. When we started off I liked it, but the waiver situation and the live scoring fiasco are just 2 things that have gone wrong.

This is my favorite football league to play in, year in and year out, but Fantrax is making it tough to enjoy.
89Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 13:10
I generally agree, even though they have fixed alot of things. I still half expect that one game in week 1 to be flipped back and forth a couple more times as they decide what the scoring is.

But it is better than it was when we started. The biggest issue I have is not being able to see future matchups out of the FA pool. It took about 15 mins, and probably ended up going to NFL.com, just to figure out if Stafford has the same bye as Manning or not.
90Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 13:14
I will give them props for this: you do get more info for team defense than Fanball gave.

Fanball would never show yards allowed or points allowed, while Fantrax has both stats, and the ranges broken down - How many times they allowed 7-13, 14-20, etc.
91Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 10:29
Another 1-1 week, it's always frustrating when you play the high scorer for the week, especially when his best player is on bye. But Goatlocker could have had even more points, so that's a "relief".

It's also a little aggravating to be below .500 right now, but it could be worse. I'm only the 7th highest scoring team and I have the 4th hardest schedule now so I don't have too much complaints, and if the playoffs started today I'd be in! Quarter of the way through the season, and I've got some major question marks on this team (of my "stud" WRs, the highest scoring one is a waiver wire pickup and my best RB is a 6th round pick.) At least my IDPs are keeping me competitive...
92Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 13:42
at least i got to savor 1 week at the top!
93Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 18:55
What are you basing SoS on? Records of opponents or Points Against.

I was 0-2 this week, hopefully I can turn it around soon, could be tough this week with Brees on a bye.
94The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 22:22
Early matchup of the top 2 teams in the standings this week as Valkyrie and I lock horns. Whose Steve Smith and bye week TE will make the difference? :)
95Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 09:44
Good day to be a WR for my team.

Edwards goes to Jets (better offense)
Crabtree signs (hopefully he can produce quickly)
96Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 09:34
Frick, I did it based on Points Against, since that's the easiest way to do it. I could do the record at the time of playing the game, but that's difficult and most of the time not an accurate depiction of the opponent your playing. If you have a hard schedule in FF, it means teams are putting a ton of points up against you (IMHO)
97Valkyrie
      ID: 210563113
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 13:38
Kyle your only problem is you caught Shep twice while he was hot and Goatlocker once. You should get better this week with match ups against 13 and 14.
Luck plays such a large part matchup wise and I have been very lucky except for my 1 point loss to Promise. This year I have the best fantasy defense when for the last several years I have been among the league leaders in points scored against me. Must admit its a ot more fun on the lucky side of that fence.
Now comes the hard part- Vampire and Beezer this week.
98GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 12:34
Will still continue to work itself out, but good season so far.
And the SF pickup made up for stupidity of leaving my Bye Week Kicker in there ;)

Have had some good FA Pickups so far.

99Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 18:37
Sorry guys, totally forgot to set lineup for this week!

Realized shortly after the 1pm games and I couldn't drop any of the guys on my bench once they started.

Won't happen again...

100Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:12
Congrats Vampire- you put me away this week-
Beezer your Steve Smith and bye wek TE beat mine 10.5 to 9.5 but the rest of my team picked up the slack.
101Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 20:52
See GL, I thought that was planned when I looked at the score. Kind of like how I intentionally went without a kicker this week.

Another 1-1 week it appears, unless I get a really good stat correction or if Tree gets some ridiculous stat correction. But I'm starting to get REALLY ticked with my WRs. Again Jacoby Jones is my leading receiver.
102GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 22:05
Sims-Walker needs his a** kicked.
What is the suspended for breaking rules crap.
And I didn't see it soon enough to replace him.

Either 0-2 or 1-1 I'm guessing.

Cliff
103Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 08:55
Wow, should be an interesting game tonight between GL and myself. I'm up by 6.5 points with Ginn and Bart Scott vs. Ronnie Brown.

In my other game I'm up by 10 with my opponent having Jim Leonard and David Harris.

Hopefully I'll win 1 of them. Sadly if I hadn't changed my mind on QB at the last minute and left Julian Edelman in at QB I would have an additional 7 points.
104The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:04
Wow, I got smacked down. Hope this isn't the start of a trend...
105Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 22:08
Is Fear the Monkey's claim for Collie legal? It was after the game locked.
106Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 10:14
I"m really kicking myself (pun intended) now after I see the final results of my game. Had I picked up a kicker, I would have won the game, but I didn't because I wanted to see what Maroney would do with Fragile Fred out. The answer: he's not going to be on my team next week, that's for sure. If I miss a playoff spot by one game, this is the game I can point to as my demise.
107wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 10:30
Re 105.

Yes it is and I will be reversing it.
108Slizz
      ID: 288571512
      Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 11:57
lucked out this week...hopefully I don't have a brain fart like that ever again!
109Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 18:14
Go figure, that was my weakest lineup and still put some good numbers up to bring home two wins...
110Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 13:29
According to the schedule Fear the Monkey got 0 points last week because of an illegal lineup. How does this work?

111Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 14:15
Sounds like he was a bad boy and didn't set his team :)
112wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 14:26
I won't go into specifics, but he had an illeagal roster.
113Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 15:00
Wolfer I am sorry- I picked up Collie all I was trying to do was put in a claim for him but I guess with the reinstatement etc.
Hate to keep making more work for you- this waiver process is really deficient.
114wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 15:12
That was not the problem - it was something else.
115Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 15:41
It said for week 5 he put someone on IR when there's not supposed to be an IR. If there's no IR why does it even let you put someone there?
116Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 18:03
I won't go into specifics, but he had an illeagal roster.

out of curiousity was it some sort of honest mistake, or a bit more than that?

if it's an honest mistake, well, to give a guy zero points? i intentionalyl went without a DL in one of my leagues this week, because i didn't want to drop somebody.
117jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 20:35
Was there a problem with waivers this week? It looks like multiple
claims for Miles Austin for example were processed.
118GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 21:09
Same thing with Jeremy Maclin
119wolfer
      ID: 29151420
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 21:16
Yes there was problem. Fantrax also sent out an email acknowledging the bug. I told them to look at the league. I have also stopped the claiming process until that gets decided. Now for the other problem, check your emails if you haven't.
120Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 21:21
with all the formats of fantasy sports i've played over the last decade, i have NEVER seen one that was more ill-prepared to start the season, much less with 30 percent of the season already gone.

hooray they acknowledged their error. i am jumping for joy. but seriously, this RIFC season has been ruined for me. i just don't enjoy it in the least bit.
121Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 22:31
Wolfer my waiver thing was unrelated to the Fearthe Monkey issue whatever it is- I made my pick up today and I am pretty sure it should have only been a waiver claim and not a pick-up??
122 fear the monkey
      ID: 399311620
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 21:31
i screwed up last week on my roster, and got 15 yards and loss of down. i have no problem with the results.there was no intention to deceive. i thought there was no DL, but it came up and i used it. end of story. i feel bad for the teams trailing KYLE because he's the only beneficiary of my stupidity.
123Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:08
I hate Fantrax. Flat out hate it. I just realized that I have an illegal roster. I have to many IDPs active and I'm missing a flex position.

I'll leave myself at the mercy of the commish, but I wanted to point it out in case Fantrax doesn't. I'm sorry, I've tried to be open minded, but their interface is awful. Trying to remember the league rules for every league is my responsibility, but most other interfaces have at least a somewhat helpful interface to remind of what positions I need to start. That mechanic seems to have been missed by Fantrax.
124Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 11:54
Faxtrax really has taken away from the whole rotoguru experience for all of us dumb enough to have been the guineau pigs for a new system.
It is not surprising that even with guru's participation in a pseudo-rotoguru test league for basketball in Fantrax that the league can't fill- I doubt they got more than wolfer as a current Fantrax participant-
Back on point- although I hate falling behind Frick an extra IDP at the expense of an offensive flex if done inadvertantly does not confer any added advantage so I say let it pass. I doubt it will be the last Fantrax screw up we see and I don't want to see everyone share in the penalties.
125wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 12:28
Guys,

It's not a fantrax screwup. Even though it's unconventional, you can start an extra IDP at the expense of an offensive flex position.
126Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 12:39
Wolfer is correct, it's unconventional, but not illegal to not start a flex offensive player and instead to start an extra IDP.
127Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 13:17
Not illegal, but probably not intended to be used that way. I had always believed the flex WR was only meant to be used in the case that you had two TE's starting.

Either way, it's probably not worth policing.
128Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 13:26
I think a technical reading might also permit the use of a second TE instead of the 6th IDP- but if that is correct that was also not intended. I guess this just shows that we all should read the rules more closely. At any rate we learned that Frick is unquestionably honest.
and my comments on Fantrax still stand .
129Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 19:09
Guru's ruling is that the roster is not legal.

I'll leave it up to the league on how to handle it, but the link Wolfer posted only shows the settings, not the actual rules. I'll leave it up to the league.

I would like to propose that my highest scoring IDP is removed from my line-up and no offense player is inserted. Or a player who was on a bye if that's needed to make it legal.

I have a lead in both of my games, but both match-ups are still undecided and we'll let the players on the field determine.

Or I'll forfeit both of my games. Hopefully I would get to keep the points, but I understand if I take a 0 in both games. My error wasn't quite the same as the prior error.
130Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 20:11
i'd like to propose scrapping fantrax and starting over for the season's second half. :o)

i'd recommend a more efficient system. pencil and paper comes to mind.
131wolfer
      ID: 219101816
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 22:00
Okay, I'll replace one of IDP with a player with roughly the same number of points. Is that ok?
132Pancho Villa
      ID: 50926209
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 10:27
Trying to figure out a way to blame Eddie Royal's monster points, resulting in a loss from an expected win, on Fantrax.
133jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 21:21
Wolfer - was not thinking - thought waivers were already in effect
- picked up Greene from the jets for benjamin watson - can you
reverse for me?
134Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 22:22
it is so weird that fantrax doesn't block that. i mean, how can this game, at this point in the season, allow that to happen??
135Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 11:05
looking to move Flacco or Romo.

if you're on the playoff bubble, or want to solidify your spot in the standings, i'm fielding offers.
136wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 11:43
I will reverse.
137Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 16:08
Guess I am about as lucky as it gets- I need 6.5 from Fletcher to beat Shep City last night- Fletcher makes the first 2 tackles of the game and then disappears for 40 minutes. He surges late in the 4th making 2 tackles in a row to draw within 1 and then on the Skins last drive gets hit in the back with a pass (he wasn't even lloking back for the ball) and gets a PD for my last point and I win by .26 . Makes up a little fory 1 point loss to promise but I do feel sorry for jay not because he lost but for the way he lost.
138Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 07:30
I apologize for making an illegal roster transaction, I picked up Jeff Reed when I realized that I didn't have a kicker playing this week. Fantrax showed Reed as playing in the 8:30 game, I didn't realize that was next week's game already.

Jason Elam was available and would have won me my second game this week. Entirely my fault for not picking up a kicker earlier, but why do they show next week's games on Monday morning?
139Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 13:18
I survived the week without a WR, thanks in most part to Chris Johnson, who's done nearly all his damage in two games - wish he would spread things out a little.

At least now the no-WR week is past me and I don't have to carry 8,000 WR on my roster anymore.
140wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Nov 04, 2009, 10:53
Re 138.

I have asked that to fantrax.
141Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 11:36
The 5th 1-1 this year... Just not getting it done. Doesn't help when I face a 150+ team every week.

The auto-bid is already gone for me, so I just have to get into the playoffs and get hot. I have the 8th spot by 20 points right now. Gonna have to get hot soon! I have the talent - I just need them to put it all together.
142Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 12:46
The final two play-off spots are awarded by total points for, correct? If so, making the play-offs is still possible for the majority of the teams.
143wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 13:02
Yes it is.
144Slizz
      ID: 341022514
      Thu, Nov 12, 2009, 13:22
Valkyrie - thats just the breaks. I would've panicked more had my team been struggling all season...but given the fact I will make the playoffs, I won't sweat that loss too much.

Looking back, its hard to believe I was complaining that I picked percy harvin over torry holt...lol

145Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 13:07
Looks like I am on the verge of another 1-1 week and another 140+ put against me, barring a miracle defensive effort from the Browns tonight.
146Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Thu, Nov 19, 2009, 14:01
i've been traveling for the last several days, but what happened with my claim of Forsett?

if it somehow went through early, i understand. if it did, that's a perfect example of what is wrong with FanTrax. why wasn't that player locked?!?!
147wolfer
      ID: 2810381419
      Thu, Nov 19, 2009, 17:14
It was early. I had it locked. I have also sent an email to fantrax to explain themselves.
148Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:28
11 weeks in and I've finally outscored my opponents for the year... by 4 points.

It would take a miracle to get an auto-bid now so I just have to make sure to be hot in week 14 and on. Mmm hmm.
149 gurudan
      ID: 3910262912
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 14:47
wolfie note my illegal roster today. once again drops ok, but not allowed the pickup. i really don't care if you fix this or not. it just gives my opponents guaranteed wins. i would assume at 100 oclock i was too late
150wolfer
      ID: 141045299
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 15:22
You still have time for the late or night kickoffs.
151 gurudan
      ID: 3910262912
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 16:32
i picked up a steeler, but still lost my thur. points.
152Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 11:58
The playoff picture looks pretty simple now. The top 5 teams; Promize, Frick, Shep City, vampireweekend, and Nerfherders, are in the playoffs. Kyle will be the 6th seed with a win or Pancho Villa loss. Pancho Villa can be the 6th seed if he wins both games next week, Kyle loses both, and he outscores Kyle by 34.

The race for the 7th and 8th seed is not too complicated either. Barring a huge score from someone else, it looks like it's a three-way race between Pancho Villa, That's my QB!, and Valkyrie.

But the fight for seedings is not over. Promize and Frick are tied at the top for the 2 auto-bids, with Shep and vampire one game back. Frick and vampire play eachother, so that could be a game that decides an auto-bid. Nerfherders is all but out of the auto-bid. His only chance is to go 2-0 while Promize, Shep, and vampire goes 0-2, AND scores 65 more points than Promize. But Nerf could still move up to third or fourth, depending on how things play out. Kyle can be the 5th seed with a 2-0 week and an 0-2 week from Nerf.
153Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 13:57
*crickets*

copied from the AAA #1 league:

FROM GURU:

This is a good time to reiterate our rules for the Playoffs, including limitation on roster moves.
You may want to begin positioning your teams for this:
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any
reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final
regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that
player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal
regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the
top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust
only when a claim is awarded.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions -
adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
154jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 23:13
a killer 0-2 for me this week
155Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:00
Congrats to the play-off teams. Looks like the top 8 make it in. All of the teams were pretty equal, IMO and I don't see any favorites for the play-offs. Certainly not myself, I finished with the top record, but that was mainly due to luck and being consistent.
156Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:07
Oh so close to an auto-bid. A tie-breaker away.

If I wasn't going to be top 2, I am happy with third, because I want no part of vampireweekend. He has owned me this year. I think third is the best I have finished in the regular season at any level.
157Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 11:56
Am I mistaken- it appears that I just made the playoffs despite having a Dallas Cowboy like December in November recording a 0-10 0/fer from week 8 through week 12 ? Has any team ever made the playoffs before despite failing to win a single game in November?
158wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 12:08
That is a good question.
159Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 19:37
Last two weeks, what a disaster of a team... I hope they got it out of their system and are ready to get back to winning ways...
160wolfer
      ID: 231155819
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 20:55
I would of posted this earlier, but I was at work and you can also say that my mind was else where. Here is the matchup as I see them.

1 Frick v 8 Valkyrie 2009
4 Nerfherders v 5 vampireweekend
3 Promize v 6 Kyle
2. Shep City v 7 That's my quarterback

seeds 2,3, and 4 are based on points as they all were 1-1 against each other.

Here is how the consolation shakes out.
9 Goatlocker v 14 the fighting bart simpsons
10 Tree is still unemployed v 13 fear the monkey
11. Pancho Villa v 12 Crazy 88

Goatlocker has it on points over Tree and Crazy 88 swept fear the monkey

If I am wrong, let me know.
161The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:32
Stay warm wolfer - that looks like a beast of a storm.
162Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 00:11
Ahh crap.. thought I was third.
163wolfer
      ID: 231155819
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:35
Re 161

Thanks. They are right on the money too.
164Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 21:01
Interesting Fantrax has no playoff match-ups or scoring up or maybe I just can't find it ?
Seems to me the playoffs should be a pretty important part of a fantasy sitse's functionality ??
165Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 22:44
Does the commish need to set-up the play-offs?
166Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 03:45
Maybe tonight's game didn't count- and your inspired choice of Jennings is voided?
167Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 05:51
Wow, was this another huge mistake in our league? Looks like no playoff games were setup...
168Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 08:11
Would each of the play-off teams mind posting their rosters here before non on Sunday? If we post the line-ups I'll go through and grab their scores and add them up. If you had planned on starting a ClE/PIT please post asap. I put Cribbs in my starting line-up before the start of the game on Thursday (I have started him virtually every week and thought he would have decent return yardage against PIT, although not nearly what he ended up with.)

169Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 09:00
Actually, I noticed that scores are posted, just the headsup stuff is not posted.

Do agree with Frick if lineups are not posted, sort of no way of knowing if people being honest... Can't believe the league is ending like this... on a sour note.
170Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 09:03
The good news is, it does look like starting lineups were locked in place. So if you truelly had a player started, you can't change it for someone else.

My Line as of now is:

A. Rodgers
R. Grant
MJD
Crabtree
Moss
Edwards
Heathe Miller

Jared Allen
Keith Bulluck
Stephen Cooper
J. Harrison
Julian Peterson
Adrian Wilson

Lawrence Tynes
NE Defense
171Slizz
      ID: 341022514
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 10:32
not bad, Promize!

at least you have a QB!!!! I got Peyton, who is gonna sit :(

172judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 12:15
If someone can set up a spreadsheet to calculate the data, you can enter the stats and get the
points. I did one my first season before I knew about live scoring, but I cannot find it to send
to anyone.
Sorry about your troubles.
Are you sure there is no playoff scenario?
173judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 12:23
I just went to the Fantrax site and logged in (from when I had looked it over in
August).

There is a playoff set up there. I could not go any further than to agree to set it up.

Has the storm knocked out Wolfer's electricity? I notice he has not posted since Weds.
174wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 12:52
Guys,

I swear on anything that people can set in fron of me that I set the matchups up on Tuesday, right after I posted them here.
175wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 13:09
.....and I am ABSOLUTELY correct with my last post. I sent them an email asking wtf? This is the response that I got.......

Your matchups still exist - just not appearing in the Standings page. We just implemented the new playoff bracket view and are working out a couple of last kinks. Will be corrected shortly.

Patrick
The Fantrax Team
176Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 13:25

Your matchups still exist - just not appearing in the Standings page. We just implemented the new playoff bracket view and are working out a couple of last kinks. Will be corrected shortly.


this is EXACTLY what i have been saying all along about fantrax.

fantastic. they're adding something new and cool for the fantasy playoffs...

...DURING THE FANTASY PLAYOFFS.

They're had all season to implement these things. So why develop them now?

They clearly weren't ready at the beginning of the season, and have been playing catch up ever since.

At some point, however, someone there should have said "oh, wait, we gotta get stuff ready for the playoffs," and it shouldn't have been once they got started.

It's almost as if the people behind it aren't fantasy sports people at all, but rather money marks who saw an opportunity to cash in on the fantasy craze, without knowing a damned thing about how these kinds of games work, or the people who play them.
177Valkyrie
      Dude
      ID: 47042413
      Sat, Dec 12, 2009, 17:00
Guys it looks like Fantrax got something (playoff matchups) up so I guess our efforts from here on might (or might not?) be redundant.
Judy thank you for offerring to help.
The good part of all this is when I get eliminated I will at worst have mixed feelings being relieved to have finally gotten away from Fantrax (forever) and all its problems perhaps exceeding my sadness at not advancing to the RGIF next year.
178Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 09:48
Where did you see the playoff matchups?

QB Brees, Drew - QB - NO
RB Faulk, Kevin - RB - NE
RB Sproles, Darren - RB - SD
WR Cribbs, Joshua - WR - CLE
WR Jennings, Greg - WR - GB
WR Johnson, Andre - WR - HOU
TE Clark, Dallas - TE - IND

DE Biermann, Kroy - DE,LB - ATL
LB Barnett, Nick - LB - GB
LB Lewis, Ray - LB - BAL
LB Lofton, Curtis - LB - ATL
LB Ruud, Barrett - LB - TB
DB Mikell, Quintin - S - PHI

K Bironas, Rob - K - TEN

TmD PHI - TmD
179wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 10:21
Live scoring has been up since roughly noon central yesterday.
180Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 22:13
Can I save some of my points from this weekend for the next 2 weeks?
181jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 23:06
Looks like I am going to be done in by the failure to draft 2 good
running backs - one week I start snelling and put the texans brown
on the bench - snelling is negative and brown scores enough to
swing the game - this week - the other way around - snelling on
the bench with 16 pts - brown with less than 1...looking like a
good win nerfherders...
182 Fantrax Support
      ID: 5011421412
      Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 13:43
Hey guys,

Your Commissioner (Dan) has pointed out that several of you are having or have had issues with Fantrax. On a general note, I will repeat essentially what we've told Dan:

Firstly, we apologize for any problems you've experienced along the way. However due to this being our first NFL season, we've had to correct a few glitches along the way. This is also partly because we implement new features at an unheard of pace (largely based on user demand) in this industry. With that being said, we have always addressed and fixed all problems promptly, and no errors have been unrecoverable (we backup all leagues in our system nightly). Our problems have paled in comparison to those that our competition experienced in their first years, and still do for some of them.

To address Tree's comment about the late implementation of our playoff bracket:

We've had playoffs working a long time ago, but the actual BRACKET format is new. Yes, in a perfect world it would have been ready and working perfectly from day 1 of the playoffs, but partly for reasons stated above, this was not possible. While we do arguably already have the most customizable League Manager/Commissioner product on the market, since this is our first year, we have unfortunately had to play "catchup" on certain features.

Rest assured we are all very committed to Fantrax for the long term and care very much about our users' opinions. And no, we are not doing this for the "cash grab". Most of us here are serious fantasy sports fans and have been so since before it existed on the internet, and are committed to making this the best fantasy sports site in the industry, in all aspects.

If any of you still have any issues regarding Fantrax, please do let us know. This includes any potential errors, constructive criticism, suggestions, etc. They will always be addressed promptly. And while we would love to keep a close eye on this thread and others around the internet, we simply don't have the man-power for that. We urge you to contact us directly or via your Commissioner.

Once again we apologize for any problems you've experienced, but this has been a necessary evil. We can assure you that not only none of these will occur in the following seasons, but you will continue to see constant upgrades to the functionality and user interface.

Thanks,
Tamir
The Fantrax Team

183Nerfherders
      ID: 347242717
      Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 13:54
Chris Johnson saves my ass again. Pretty much all I can say. This is the first time in RIFC leagues I have had the BEST player in the league. Now I have to hope Frick can't put up back2back 190's. Heh.
184Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 14:03
I doubt that I can, but here's to hoping.

I didn't have huge swings in my scoring this year, but last time after putting up a monster week, I had one of my worst weeks of they year, hopefully I won't do the same this time.

185wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 21:07
Matchups are set for the upcoming week.
186Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Fri, Dec 18, 2009, 14:06
If I end up winning the play-offs I might have to rename my team next year to the Dallas Clarks. He's had a great year and has been even better in the fantasy play-offs. I'm a Colts fan and bought his jersey when he was a rookie. Here's to hoping I'll be wearing it proudly through February!
187Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 05:49
Ok Frick...

I need for you to turn down your scoring machine just slightly for this week. This is my first time making it to the finals in RIFC, so play nice :)
188Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 08:43
Should be a good match-up. I'm seeing a significant drop in my points this week. I have number of players that I could see not playing a whole game. I thought I had a decent team when the season started, even though I was weak in the RB department. My team has been on fire, but your team hasn't been far behind. For the season we are only separated by 7 points so I would say either team has a good chance to win.

Good luck!
189judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 11:43
PLAYOFF LEAGUE

I set up a playoff league for RIFC folks through MFL in which each player gets used once
throughout. I've set it up with 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK and 1 DST. As far as I can tell, we
can have as many teams as we want. I set the scoring to match the RIFC set up.

Do we want any IDP's? I was thinking of 1 DL, 1 LB and 1 DB??? Chime in with thoughts. It
might make it too "messy".

If you want an invitation, my email is listed.
190 judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 12:40
oops -- here is the email.
191 fear the monkey
      ID: 431135209
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 12:44
i'm in. i vote no IDP'S
192Frick-cell
      ID: 1311562811
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 12:56
I can't access fantrax. what is the score of the championship game?
193wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 13:24
You are up by 21.1 points. The only way you can lose is if Jared Allen has a MONSTER game.
194wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 13:43
By monster, I mean a game like he had against Green Bay at the dome.
195Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 18:47
I am disgruntled cuz I would have beaten EVERYONE this week. But what can you do?
196wolfer
      ID: 1211521211
      Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 21:22
Re 195

I can believe that. I would be in the same boat. By my count, the guys I would of played this week would have scored 139.2 points. That is not counting the 2 Vikings that are playing tonight and Stewart on the bench!
197Frick
      ID: 9103036
      Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 08:37
Interesting season, but I think a lot of people lost interest because of Fantrax. I think Fantrax has great possibilities, but as of right now, I would not be interested in using them again.

Just one more example, if you look at the play-off standings it shows me in 3rd place despite having the only 3-0 record. I'm not sure what they are using for the rankings and it isn't a big deal, but is just another example of implementation that wasn't complete or was assumed by programers to be correct without getting user acceptance.
198 fear the monkey
      ID: 711273020
      Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 21:27
i'm in the fantrax test hoop league, and really don't have any complaints about them.if you take yahoo, tsn,fanball, or espn, you still need to use ROTOGURU tsn stats to figure out what's going on. i've never understood any of the stats or rankings at yahoo in any sport.
199wolfer
      ID: 541153117
      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 18:06
re 0197

That is why I want to run a league there next year, but not a RIFC QL. I want to see how there are next year before we go back there.
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