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Subject: 2010 RotoGurupie Keeper 14: Preseason Discussion
Posted by: Mötley Crüe
- Dude [439372011] Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 20:37
I just sent out an e-mail to everyone in the league asking for a response to let me know you're available to play again this season. We need to discuss which website we'll be using to run our league this year. Any nominations?
I've set the following tentative dates for our league draft process to get under way. Please let me know if you have any objections or aren't available during these times.
--Keeper declarations are due at noon ET on Thursday, August 19, 2010.
--The draft will start officially at noon ET on Thursday, August 26, 2010.
--NFL Week 1 starts at 8:30 ET on Thursday, September 9, 2010.
If you aren't sure which players are available to you to keep, let me know and I'll forward you a copy of the final rosters spreadsheet from 2009. It shows all players on rosters with their associated keeper positions (rounds). If you need a rules refresher, let me know and I'll get you a copy of those as well.
I don't have any suggested rule changes; I think we incorporated everything we talked about last season already. Please feel free to submit any suggestions to me via e-mail or publicly below if you'd like to bring something up for discussion.
I look forward to hearing from everyone.
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| 1 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 101918
Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 22:16
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In reply to the email...
Since it looks like the RIFC will be using MFL for both the league and the draft... I suggest we follow suit.
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| 2 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 22:16
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Concur on MFL.
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| 3 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Jul 20, 2010, 08:59
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MFL as well.
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| 4 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 20, 2010, 11:27
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MC - I just sent you an MFL referral from the RIFC. If you use that referral link to start your league, you'll get a $10 discount, and the RIFC will get a $20 discount.
Check around - though. You might be able to get a better discount as a conversion from Fanball. (Or maybe you can get both discounts.)
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| 5 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Jul 20, 2010, 16:09
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MFL, as well.
Though I think it's only fair that league members contribute to any
expenses incurred.
The commissioners of this league devote a lot of their time towards
running this league. The least the rest of us can do is pay the
freight.
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| 6 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 101918
Tue, Jul 20, 2010, 16:40
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Agreed. Got no issue w/chipping in... both to this league and to RotoGuru.com in general.
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| 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 20, 2010, 23:13
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Re: the final 2009 roster spreadsheet.
It looks to me like this shows the keeper round for 2009. For 2010, some of these players should be halving their rounds, correct? For example, Ray Rice will now cost me a 3rd rounder, and Aaron Rodgers will cost a 4th.
Please confirm.
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| 8 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 01361448
Wed, Jul 21, 2010, 00:24
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Nice picks Guru!
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| 9 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jul 21, 2010, 07:11
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Guru, [7]: You are correct that the final 2009 roster spreadsheet I sent out in March (and more recently to a few people) needs to be adjusted to show the keeper rounds of last season's kept players. leggestand worked up a revised spreadsheet showing that data and I'm reviewing it for accuracy. I'll get it out to the full league later today.
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| 10 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 21, 2010, 17:18
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[8] - yeah - I won't be picking for awhile anymore, though. In all likelihood, I'll concede my first 5 picks this year for Gore, R. Wayne, Roddy White, Ray Rice, and Rodgers.
Not that I'm complaining...
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| 11 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jul 21, 2010, 20:48
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I just sent out a spreadsheet showing the current rosters and corresponding keeper slots. Check your e-mail and let me know if you don't get it.
The 2010 draft order is below:
1. Mjd
2. Skeepers
3. Tax Returns
4. Oaktown Raiders
5. GoatLocker
6. Beezer
7. Da Bomb
8. TB
9. IAC
10. Challenger
11. Snoop Doug
12. Leggestand
13. RotoGuru
14. Motley Crue
Remember, our draft doesn't snake, so this will be your pick in every round.
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| 12 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Jul 22, 2010, 01:21
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If you have extra keeper quality players send me a e-mail. I'll trade a pick upgrade.
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| 13 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Jul 24, 2010, 09:11
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I haven't heard from Tax Returns, GoatLocker, or Doug. GoatLocker I've seen around the boards; I guess he'll eventually notice we're talking about him. Taxman often doesn't seem to get e-mail from me, or else he changes his primary e-mail account often. And Doug doesn't generally post much until football season, so I'm assuming he isn't around. If you'd like to contact any of these guys on the league's behalf I'd appreciate it.
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| 14 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Jul 24, 2010, 11:24
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IAC and I have agreed to a trade.
Mötley Crüe receives LB David Hawthorne SEA
I_AM_CANADIAN receives MC's 16th round pick (16.14)
Please e-mail or post in here if there are any protests. Thanks.
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| 15 | Athletics Guy
ID: 203412918
Sat, Jul 24, 2010, 18:33
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It's still early, but I'm leaning towards keeping Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Tom Brady, Mike Sims-Walker and Jerome Harrison right now. If anyone wants to acquire any of my other players in exchange for draft picks, let me know.
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| 16 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Jul 25, 2010, 00:07
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No untouchables on my rebuilding team.
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| 17 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sun, Jul 25, 2010, 23:02
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Everyone on my team is available as well. That includes some nice late round guys:
Sydney Rice - 16th
Mario Manningham - 24th
Elvis Dumervil - 24th
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| 18 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Jul 27, 2010, 00:43
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[13] Emailed Taxman after he grabbed a FA I was thinking about
picking up in our RIBC AAA league.
Reminded him to check in after cussing him out.
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| 19 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Jul 28, 2010, 17:55
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MC, The link I sent you for the 50% discount is good only until 7/31
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| 20 | Taxman
ID: 53382122
Wed, Jul 28, 2010, 18:12
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I'm here...just distracted. All internet time has been dedicated to baseball. I'll start checking-in on a more frequent basis.
I also have no untouchables.
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| 21 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jul 28, 2010, 18:21
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Challenger, I e-mailed MFL and they didn't reply. I guess I'll try again.
Good to see you won't need to be replaced, Taxman!
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| 22 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Jul 28, 2010, 19:30
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A no-reply isn't very impressive from someone wanting new business......
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| 23 | Doug
ID: 426422715
Thu, Jul 29, 2010, 16:42
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I'm in. Just haven't been checking boards until now.
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| 24 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 29, 2010, 17:43
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Here are the guys that have potential keeper value, but I will probably not be keeping them. If anyone wants to trade a pick upgrade, let me know:
Owen Daniels (round 5)
Jonathan Vilma (7)
Justin Tuck (10)
James Laurinaitis (11)
James Farrior (12)
Le'Ron McClain (16)
Cadillac Williams (17)
Kenny Britt (25)
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| 25 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Jul 29, 2010, 18:07
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Challenger and league,
I got a reply from MFL this time and was offered a discounted price for the 2010 season if we switch from Fanball. We're not going to use Fanball this year, but I haven't heard from many of you regarding using My Fantasy League. If no one has anything bad to say about it, I'm going to give it a shot. The first 4 weeks are no obligation--you don't have to pay until Week 5. So we can run a free trial on it. If anyone doesn't want to use MFL, please speak up by tonight or forever hold your peace.
Doug, good to see you're back as well. Now we're just waiting to hear from GoatLocker.
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| 26 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Jul 30, 2010, 01:01
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GoatLocker signed up for a RIFC league so I would guess he would be back again.
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| 27 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jul 30, 2010, 21:25
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There's one change to the roster spreadsheets we sent out a few weeks back. I missed Barrett Ruud as former keeper, so he's actually a 6th round keeper now instead of a 12th rounder, if Doug elects to retain him. Sorry for the confusion.
To point out another issue you guys might want to keep an eye on, there's been a discussion over in the RIFC thread about scoring/rules changes.
Post 81 in this thread displays the options that are being considered.
I'm not planning to bring these changes up in our league until I see what happens in RIFC. I will say I'm a big fan of the current format and don't feel there's any reason to change it in the least. But let's see what the RIFC does and then we'll take a cue from that.
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| 28 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sat, Jul 31, 2010, 23:48
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RE #14, Just thought I would point out that this trade currently leaves IAC with 25 total draftpicks, and MC with only 23. Our rules only allows us to select 24 times and our Commish would have to fill his roster thru F/A.
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| 29 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 01, 2010, 09:40
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Certainly can't argue with anything you said, Challenger. I think IAC will be happy to pick twice in round 16 rather than once in 16 and once in 24. I'm just as happy to have Hawthorne on my roster (assuming I keep him), and then fill out my roster on the wire.
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| 30 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 01, 2010, 12:11
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I'm here and in.
Just been a little busy.
Not as bad as last year though.
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| 31 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 01, 2010, 12:13
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And MFL works fine for me.
Anything to get away from Fanball.
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| 32 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 23:36
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Beezer and I have agreed on a trade.
Beezer gets Cadillac Williams and my last available pick (rd 23, assuming I keep Bulluck).
I get his 10th rounder.
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| 33 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Thu, Aug 05, 2010, 07:59
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Confirmed. We'll just call it an "undisclosed" pick.
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| 34 | TB
ID: 58737918
Mon, Aug 09, 2010, 19:39
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Got my league invite today. Hope it doesn't mess anything up, but I dumped a bunch of players that I know I won't be keeping. Just wanted to trim it down some and see what my realistic keeper list looked like (and wanted to play with functionality of site).
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| 35 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 09, 2010, 19:58
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That's fine and I actually encourage others to familiarize themselves with the MFL site as well.
None of the transactions made at the league site are official for now. The keeper declarations will be based on the spreadsheet we sent out last month, not what happens at the site. Once the draft is over, we'll revert to transactions at MFL.
TB, if you change your mind eventually and elect to keep someone you dropped today, just be sure to announce that with your official keeper declaration on August 19.
10 days until Keeper Declarations are due.
Remember, you must post them in here or e-mail them to me or leggestand by noon Eastern on Thursday the 19th or else you will forfeit your entire roster and have no keepers. I recommend everyone submit your keepers a day or so in advance to me in case you somehow lose internet access the day they're due. Please state in the subject line that your keepers are enclosed so I know not to open the e-mail until after the deadline.
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| 36 | TB
ID: 58737918
Mon, Aug 09, 2010, 20:06
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My current keepers are:
Manning, Peyton IND QB
Addai, Joseph IND RB
Thomas, Pierre NOS RB
Davis, Vernon SFO TE
Harris, David NYJ LB
Williams, DJ DEN LB
This might change pending a trade or injury prior to 19 August, but I want to post something so I don't lose everyone. Also, this site is blocked from my work, but I am seeing if I can find alternate ways of logging in.
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| 37 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 09, 2010, 20:12
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Another thing: I mentioned in post [27] above that some rules changes were being considered in the RIFC. Almost no changes were made after all of the voting was completed, but there were two minor variations that we'll absorb for this season and the future.
1. Team Defense scoring will be slightly adjusted; in Guru's words: "[E]xtra points were charged against the defense, regardless of how the related TD was scored. Thus, for a game where the defense essentially pitched a shutout but the opposing defense scored a TD, the team defense was charged with 1 point allowed. And the formula had a different point allocation for 0 points allowed vs. 1. This year, I’m going to amend the points against to provide 10 for 0-2 points allowed, and 7 points for 3-6." All other TM DEF scoring remains unchanged.
2. All players will now receive points for all scoring categories. In the past we did not have the ability to automatically award fantasy points to offensive players for tackles, interceptions, or fumbles recovered from the other team. We also could not automatically score offensive points for IDP's (recall, we've always added in 6 pts for TD's as a scoring adjustment). MFL allows us to apply all scoring categories to all players, and that seems only fair to the owners of those players.
Guru did some analysis of the "two-way" points from 2009, and explained that most of these points would have been scored by offensive players getting tackles after a turnover or on special teams. He noted these outliers:
- Randy Moss had an interception on a "Hail Mary" pass at the end of the first half in game 5.
- Kevin Smith got credit for a safety in week 8. Detroit threw an interception into the end zone. Instead of downing the ball, the defender ran it out of the end zone, and then Kevin Smith chased him back into the end zone and tackled him.
- Robert Meachem (week 13) - Brees threw an interception against the Redskins. On the interception return, Meachem stripped the ball from the returner and ran it in for a TD. He was credited with a forced fumble and a fumble recovery on the play.
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| 38 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Aug 10, 2010, 18:52
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I didn't see an invite - I wonder if my email address was correct?
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| 39 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 10, 2010, 22:14
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legge, your old e-mail address was pulled into MFL when I imported the league from Fanball. I just re-sent the invite to your Yahoo account. If you prefer the e-mail address you posted in [38], then be sure to change it over at MFL.
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| 40 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 00:01
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When I clicked reply to all from the waiver email that was generated, I got legge's old email addy kicked back and dcmpc@texas.net (whoever that is) kicked back as well, so might want to confirm they got the invite.
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| 41 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 05:18
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That's Taxman, I think. If that e-mail address is wrong, I need a good one, Tax.
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| 42 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 09:31
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All set. My yahoo email is fine, so, I've left it as that.
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| 43 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 11:27
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leggestand - my understanding is that mfl emails to yahoo address are often backlogged (sometimes for a full day). You might want to update yours, just to be sure you get more timely delivery.
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| 44 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 14:41
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RE#43 - I can confirm it as TB's emails from his drops were slow. His 1st of 5 arrived to my yahoo based email the day after he generated them and the other 4 arrived the 2nd day.
As a test, I added my hotmail account and generated 2 emails to see which email accounts would get it faster and the hotmail emails arrived in 2 minutes. Still waiting on the Yahoo emails.
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| 45 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 14:41
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Will do. Thanks for the heads up.
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| 46 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 18:22
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I assume we will use the MFL draft system? It looks like we can leave the kept players on their respective rosters, and simply delete those picks from the draft, which should avoid many of the related headaches we've had in past years.
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| 47 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 18:33
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Yes, I was talking to Bonka about it yesterday and it sounds like MFL is going to make things easier. I hate to say that because I like drafting at Kafenatid.
The MFL drafting tool is included in the price of the league, isn't it?
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| 48 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 18:37
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yes
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| 49 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Aug 14, 2010, 21:05
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In keeping with what is becoming a pre-draft tradition, boikin and I have agreed to a trade.
boikin (skeepers) receives:
RB Michael Turner ATL
RB Justin Forsett SEA
2010 Draft Picks 23.14, 22.14, 21.14, 20.14, 19.14, 9.14, 8.14, 7.14
MC's 2011 Draft Pick round 9
Mötley Crüe receives:
2010 Draft Picks 6.02, 7.02, 8.02, 9.02, 10.02, 11.02, 12.02, 13.02
boikin's 2011 Draft Pick round 7
I realize this is a doozy, so I'll start the commentary by saying I think it's a balanced trade. It may not be perfectly balanced, but it is close in my mind and it definitely helps both teams. Boikin will no longer pick in rounds 6, 10, 11, 12, or 13, and he will recieve a second pick in each of rounds 19-23. Clearly draft picks in rounds 6-13 are worth a significant amount more than picks in rounds 19-23. However, if you look at the roster spreadsheet you will notice many empty spots in rounds 10-13, corresponding with waived players. These rounds did produce a couple of gems last year (Jamaal Charles, Josh Cribbs, Brent Celek) but I think the certainty of owning Michael Turner is a legitimate trade-off for not being able to take a turn at that crapshoot.
As for me, yeah, this trade helps me. I have too many keeper-worthy players and not enough slots to keep them all. It allows me to turn some very good players into something I can keep--draft picks--so I don't wind up losing players like Percy Harvin or Ahmad Bradshaw for nothing. This gets me down to a manageable number of keepers and I collect something of value in exchange for one of my best players and another player with immense potential.
I believe this trade is within the rules of our game, as well. The relevant portions follow.
Trading for future draft picks is allowed at any time, with the following limitations:
1. Draft picks in rounds 1 through 5 may only be traded during the week leading up to the draft and during the draft itself each summer.
2. Managers may accumulate as many draft picks as they wish; however no fantasy team shall have more than 24 players on its roster at any time.
Yes, this trade will appear to cause boikin to have more than 24 players on his roster. Ignoring the fact that several of us now have 25 players (due to the IR rule), boikin's team truly does not have anyone on it until he declares his keepers. The rosters as they are right now are more like reserved lists; I'm trading him the right to keep Turner and Forsett if he chooses to. I think the intent of the 24 player limit is to prevent managers from making unbalanced trades during the season and then not waiving a player to get down to a 24 player roster.
So, I'll open the floor for comments. If you wish to protest, you may do so here, or by e-mailing me or leggestand. In order for a trade to be disallowed, the rules require at least 3 managers to protest it within 24 hours of the announcement of the trade.
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| 50 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 09:16
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I accept the trade if confirmation is needed.
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| 51 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 12:00
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Anyone interested in Wes Welker(1) or Terrell Owens(1) or Steve Smith (NYG)(10th)? Maybe keeping one or both or neither. I'm so undecided on my keepers.
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| 52 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 17:48
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There's been a protest of my trade with boikin mentioned in [49] above. It's only one at this point, but to ensure everyone has a chance to see the notification of the trade, I'm going to wait an additional 24 hours from now to process the trade and allow for further comment. It doesn't seem like there's going to be anything else--it's been nearly 48 hours with almost nothing. But in this case, I want to be sure nobody can claim they didn't have a chance to see it.
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| 53 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 18:44
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Most of my rebuilding team is available, but here are a couple of
names that might draw some interest.
Randy Moss (1)
Josh Cribbs (11)
And a laundry list of players that can be had on the cheap and
might be of interest as they'll only cost you a last round pick to
keep.
Flacco and Kolb look to be keepers, at this point.
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| 54 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 20:13
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My schedule is kind of nuts over the next few days so I'm posting my keepers now.
(3) Chad Ochocinco
(12) Brent Celek
(15) Michael Bush
(16) Sidney Rice
(17) Cadillac Williams
(24) DeAndre Levy
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| 55 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Aug 16, 2010, 22:54
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Matt Ryan (7), Roy Williams (7) and Reggie Bush (1) can be had easily. P.S. Nice team logo TB. I wonder if you will be getting more trade offers than usual this year because more people will be on your team page because of it.
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| 56 | TB
ID: 58737918
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 01:26
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Cool to see someone noticed.
Regards to the trade in post #49 - at first it looked like a lot to chew and a few more trade swaps by Boikin than what I would have agreed to if it was me, but a first round keeper RB and a round 24 RB for a 6th round pick and then swapping his 10th-13th round picks for the 20-23rd round picks, assuming he is going to keep his 7th, 8th, and 9th round keepers and is giving you a draft upgrade at no cost to him. I do hope for the sake of the league that Boikin can draft a quality team that late in the draft, but if looking at our current keepers is any indication, probably not. From all teams there are only 8 players still rostered from rounds 20-23 from last years draft while there are 23 from rounds 10-13. I wouldn't protest the trade, but I will reserve future comments to see how the draft and season plays out.
For the future, I'd like to see a rule where if a team wants to select a keeper, they must have their original pick in that round for the keeper slot. So if they trade draft picks, even swap same round picks, they cannot keep any player designated from that round. While it doesn't affect the team trading away the picks, it affects the rest of the league.
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| 57 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 12:09
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Trade announcement:
Challenger receives James Laurinaitis plus Guru's 16th round pick in the 2010 draft.
Guru receives Challenger's 9th round pick in the 2010 draft.
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| 58 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 12:56
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Confirmed
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| 59 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 17:03
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Keepers:
Frank Gore, Roddy White, Reggie Wayne, Ray Rice, Aaron Rodgers, Keith Bulluck.
The first five will offset my picks in round 1-5. Bulluck is a 24th rounder.
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| 60 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 19:58
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Trade Announcement
Da Bomb gets Josh Cribbs and mjd's 10th rd pickof the 2010 draft
mjd gets Da Bomb's 4th rd pick of the same.
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| 61 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 20:06
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mjd and da Bomb:
The rules prohibit trading of top 5 draft picks until after keepers are declared. You can trade the players from those rounds, but not the actual picks. So that trade in [60] isn't valid.
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| 62 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 01361448
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 20:56
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FYI - Four IDP names available from IAC's Squad:
Brian Cushing, Paul Posluszny, Chad Greenway, Clint Session
All have 24th Round keeper value.
Make your offer if you need an IDP.
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| 63 | Athletics Guy
ID: 537571719
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 21:00
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For me:
Andre Johnson
Brandon Marshall
Tom Brady
Mike Sims-Walker
Jerome Harrison
Terence Newman
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| 64 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 21:11
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What is the reasoning of the rule in post 61?
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| 65 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 21:29
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Post 46 in this thread is the beginning of a headache-inducing review of the logic we used to create that rule, Da Bomb.
I'm open to making modifications to the rule if the majority agree. I believe there should be a limit on trading early round picks during the season no matter what, however. Too much unpredictability in who might be worthy of a keeper in the following year.
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| 67 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 23:10
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The trade in post [49] is approved. There were two protests in the 3+ days since I announced the trade. Anyone who had something to say about the trade has had the chance to be heard and the threshold for a league vote was not triggered.
I want to make a statement in general about this league; in large part this is a rebuttal to the protests I received about the trade boikin and I made. There seems to be an underlying assumption that this league will have roster parity enforced on it by the Commissioner in addition to the mechanisms we have in place under the rules. The rules limit hoarding of good players by setting a maximum number of keepers. There are also limitations on trading early draft picks to ensure everyone has the ability to keep or draft highly sought (if not highly talented) players. We've operated under these parameters for most of the history of this league and I think they're sufficient. If there is a desire to make changes to these rules to enforce stricter policies with the goal of achieving greater roster parity, I'm OK with that. But it comes about via suggestions for rules changes. Appealing to my sense of league integrity isn't a panacea. I want the league to be fair, but in this case 10 of 12 managers outside of the trade elected not to protest the trade.
The RG Keeper 14 is built to force managers to choose the best players to keep; it isn't built to require managers to give up potential keepers with nothing in return. If a manager is proficient or lucky enough to have more than 6 players worthy of being kept, the manager is entitled to seek out ways of turning those "un-keepable" players into something of value in the form of draft picks. You may not agree that I received what I deserved for Michael Turner and Justin Forsett in the trade, but it's telling that only one manager even attempted to show that the trade was unbalanced in my favor at boikin's expense. Suffice it to say that a straw poll of other league managers shows that is not an easily defensible or widely-held sentiment. There are too many unknowns in the trade to be sure of anything. Maybe Turner and Forsett lead RB scoring in 2010. The fact is that it's not really possible to argue the trade is unbalanced any more than most trades. As I stated in my original announcement, "[i]t may not be perfectly balanced, but it is close in my mind and it definitely helps both teams." The lack of numerous protests supports my contention.
I want everyone to enjoy playing in this league and I hope that everyone feels like it is run with as much integrity as can be mustered. If things start to fray at the seams and unravel, I'll personally be crushed. I've talked before about how much I enjoy and look forward to this league--that's the truth. I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether we want our league to move in the direction my trade with boikin will take it. And if we decide we don't want it to veer that way, we'll need some proposals for rules changes. But I will not retroactively apply a potential rules change (that might not pass anyway) in order to satisfy a sense of propriety expected by a few managers. Sometimes I have to make decisions that are hard, and I know a few of you won't agree with me. In some cases, the solution will not satisfy everyone. But I encourage you to communicate with me at any time if you're unhappy with something. I care what all of you think. You're all great guys and I want to work to keep things going in a positive direction for a long time.
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| 68 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 23:22
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Sorry, my bad for not reading the rules again, but keepers and
keeper slots figured very much into how this trade was
negotiated.
Declared keepers are Randy Moss, Tim Hightower, Demeco
Ryans, Chester Taylor, Curtis Lofton, and Josh Cribbs.
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| 69 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 00:35
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Just want to make clear that my post #56 wasn't trying to prove it was an unbalanced trade for your team MC. It was a large trade and I shared my thoughts. I do think Boikin probably gave up a bit more than what it would have took to make the deal, but I don't suspect collusion and do believe you both made the deal trying to do what's best for your teams.
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| 70 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 01:03
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Above declared keepers or any other members of my team
available for a 6th round pick or higher.
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| 71 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 01:06
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Trade Announcement Da Bomb gets Josh Cribbs and mjd's 15th round pick. mjd gets Da Bomb's 6th round pick.
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| 72 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 01:17
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71 confirmed, next.
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| 73 | Da Bomb
ID: 53720823
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 01:40
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I think the trade in 49 is fine and fair.
Keepers
Marques Colston (2)
Donald Brown (3)
Jared Allen (9)
Josh Cribbs (11)
Cedric Benson (12)
Vince Young (24)
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| 74 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 01:57
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As for the following rule: Trading for future draft picks is allowed at any time, with the following limitations: 1. Draft picks in rounds 1 through 5 may only be traded during the week leading up to the draft and during the draft itself each summer. I'd like to propose a change. I see the point that rounds 1-5 should be untradeable in the season as you are unsure of your keepers and thus could potentially trade away a pick that would be needed for a player. However, at this point in the year it is completely unnecessary IMO. We now more or less have a very good understanding of our keepers as well as what picks we have available to trade. At one point I thought the rule was going to kill mjd's and my trade where I am not allowed to trade a 4th round pick. Also, for a rebuilding team it hurts the strategy as a manager is not able at any point (except for one week after keepers are declared and before the draft, a time frame which I doubt a trade has ever occurred anyway, and during the draft) to acquire a top 5 round draft pick. My proposal is: (change is in bold) 1. Draft picks in rounds 1 through 5 may only be traded one month leading up to the keeper declaration date and during the draft itself each summer.
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| 75 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 02:16
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I think we should also consider moving back the keeper date next season to a few days before the draft so we can at least watch two preseason games for most of our players before deciding who to keep.
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| 76 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 02:25
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Trade Announcement
TB gets Randy Moss and two conditional draft picks from mjd (his last two picks after final keepers are declared).
mjd gets TB's 6th and 7th round draft picks.
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| 77 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 02:30
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TB's new keeper list (once trade is confirmed)
(1) Manning, Peyton IND QB
(1) Moss, Randy NE WR
(5) Addai, Joseph IND RB
(8) Thomas, Pierre NOS RB
(9) Williams, DJ DEN LB
(24) Davis, Vernon SFO TE
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| 80 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 03:43
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When the Cribbs trade was being negotiated, a 4th for an 8th
was Da Bomb's original offer. I wanted his third, but he didn't
have one to trade (he was keeping Brown). So I suggested
moving on the other end except I was keeping my ninth
(Lofton), so we settled on my 10th.
As you can see, we knew who we were planning on keeping
and made compromises.
I second the wording change in 74.
I don't really get the trade in post 49, but the thought of
collusion never entered my mind, so I'm fine with it, but will
be interested to see how it plays out.
76 confirmed. Any other takers?
I'll repost my new keeper list before the deadline.
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| 81 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 13:29
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I second the wording change in 74.
seconded
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| 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 14:32
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I must confess I was unaware of (which means I forgot about) the limitation on trading picks for rounds 1-5. I support the suggested change in post 74.
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| 83 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 20:03
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We'll get to the trading draft picks in rounds 1-5 issue in a few days. For the moment, I'm trying to fill a spot in the league. Taxman has elected not to continue playing, and I've created a thread in this Forum soliciting a new manager to take over the vacant team.
The Solicitation Post is here.
Please direct any highly qualified individuals you may know and would like to play against to that thread so that they can e-mail me and we can begin reviewing the candidates. If you have any suggestions, please send me an e-mail.
Everyone who has announced a trade should assume it will go through for the time being, unless otherwise noted above. I have received no protests on any of the recent trades and you are probably safe expecting their approval when it comes to announcing your keepers. As a final reminder, the keeper declarations are due by noon ET tomorrow, Thursday 19 August. Anyone not announcing their keepers in this thread or by e-mail to me and/or leggestand by noon tomorrow will forfeit all players currently on their roster. An exception will be made for the new manager, whom I'm planning to allow until early next week to announce the keepers for that team.
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| 84 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 20:21
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MC, I just want to say that even if I felt you were completely ripping off boikin (I don't BTW), I still wouldn't protest the trade. My philosophy is that a trade should only be disallowed when it's clear that collusion is going on.
Hate to see Taxman going but I'm sure we can get a quality replacement.
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| 85 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 21:15
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Mötley Crüe keepers (with required pick):
Maurice Jones-Drew (1)
Steve Smith (CAR) (1)
Greg Jennings (2)
Ahmad Bradshaw (5)
Phillip Rivers (5)
David Hawthorne (24)
Per the rules, this causes me to sacrifice draft picks 1-5 and 24.
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| 86 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 21:43
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Donald Brown (3) is now available for a pick upgrade.
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| 87 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 22:36
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IAC's keepers w/picks:
Steven Jackson, RB, STL (1)
Ryan Grant, RB, GB (6)
Alex Smith, QB, SF (24)
Laurence Maroney, RB, NE (24)
Paul Pozluszny, LB, BUF (24)
Chad Greenway, LB, MIN (24)
Since I have an upgraded pick earlier in the draft (MC's 16th rounder), Smith, Maroney, Poz and Greenway become 20-23rd round keepers (since I'll be forfeiting my 24th round pick).
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| 88 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:02
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mjd and I have reversed/cancelled/traded back (however the wording) the trade in post 71. Trade Announcement mjd trades Josh Cribbs to Da Bomb Da Bomb trades Donald Brown to mjd No picks Trade Announcement The Beezer trades Knowshon Moreno and his round 13 pick Da Bomb trades his round 7 pick
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| 89 | Da Bomb
ID: 53720823
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:06
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Updated Keepers
Knowshon Moreno (1)
Marques Colston (2)
Jared Allen (9)
Josh Cribbs (11)
Cedric Benson (12)
Vince Young (24)
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| 90 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:19
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confirmed
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| 92 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:38
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I apologize for the confusion. As for posting keepers, I've always looked at it as a tentative list in case something unforseen came up and I would have my players just incase.
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| 93 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:38
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Anyone confused yet, other than me?
This should do it...... I hope.
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| 95 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 18, 2010, 23:51
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Well then you can just think of it that after the trade in 71 I traded Cribbs and his pick back to mjd, and then we traded again.
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| 96 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 00:33
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mjd keepers
Donald Brown, RB (3)
Joe Flacco, QB (13)
Kevin Kolb, QB (24)
Mike Wallace, WR (24)
Hakeem Nicks, WR (24)
Stephen Tulloch, LB (24)
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| 97 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 09:56
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keepers unless i change my mind in the next couple of hours:
RB Michael Turner (1)
QB Eli Manning (7)
RB LeSean McCoy (8)
WR Michael Crabtree (9)
DL Dwight Freeney (24)
RB Justin Forsett SEA (24)
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| 98 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 10:04
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I am not sure if this is the time but i think we need to revisit the keeper rules at the end of the season. I think we should revise the rule that you can give picks in back of there round. i.e. MC giving up a third round pick to keep a second round player and giving up a second round pic for a first round player. If you want to keep to first round players then you need to have to first round picks.
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| 99 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 10:47
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Almost forgot this.
Don't know why I thought it was tomorrow.
I'll fix rounds tonite.
GoatLocker's Keepers
Matt Forte
Drew Brees
Anthony Gonzalez
Robert Meachem
Johnny Knox
Eric Barton
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| 100 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 11:54
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Adrian Peterson (1)
Jonathan Stewart (5)
Darren Sproles (8)
James Laurinaitis (10)
Steve Smith (NYG) (11)
Miles Austin (24)
(Laurinaitis was a 11th but was forced up to a 10th)
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| 101 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 12:25
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MC, the trading software for MFL looks to be able to handle all these trades, including the draft picks. Is this something that the Commish will/can input or do we each need to go in and do it? If you or Legge don't have the time, I can volunteer.
In the future, if we remain with MFL, I would suggest all trades go thru MFL, including the offseason.
Also, how are we going to do the keepers in the draft, meaning does anyone know how MFL draft handles the keepers?
The players are already on our teams and we would have to release them to allow them to be available for our draft. Then we could preload the keepers into their selected rds. Hopefully, everyone would do it ahead of time.
Only other thought I have would be placeholders, about 84 of them. Doesn't sound logical though.
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| 102 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 18:10
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Challenger, we'll work on that this weekend. I think I can program players into certain picks. I was talking to Bonka about that the other day. The keepers will need to be on the proper rosters in advance for me to set them as keepers, so if people wouldn't mind going into the league and emptying their rosters except for their keepers that would be great.
leggestand submitted his keepers to me on Tuesday. They are
Larry Fitzgerald (1)
Chris Johnson (2)
Dallas Clark (3)
Jamaal Charles (10)
Rashard Mendenhall (12)
Daryl Smith (24)
Doug didn't submit any keepers in here or to my e-mail. I haven't heard from leggestand in a few days, so it's possible Doug submitted to him. But as of now, Doug is MIA. This brings up another issue. The rules say he's not allowed any keepers since he missed the deadline. Not sure how good that is for the rest of the league.
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| 103 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 19:49
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I confirm the trade between Da Bomb and I in post 88.
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| 104 | Doug
ID: 426422715
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 20:22
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Sorry, had this on my calendar for tonight... thought deadline was midnight not noon.
Boldin (1)
Romo (4)
D Jackson (4 -> 3)
Willis (5)
Cole (10)
Greene (24)
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| 105 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 21:39
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OK, here it is again with numbers.
Somebody please make sure I'm right.
GoatLocker's Keepers
Matt Forte (1)
Drew Brees 1 (2)
Anthony Gonzalez (3)
Robert Meachem (24)
Johnny Knox (24)
Eric Barton (19)
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| 106 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 01361448
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 21:52
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Reminder... don't forget to process trade from post 14.
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| 107 | TB
ID: 58737918
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 22:04
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It won't let me add Randy Moss to my roster so will have to be manually added by Commish. The rest of my keepers are on my roster and all extra players removed.
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| 108 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 22:29
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I botched that up by dropping Moss instead of trading him, sorry
guys.
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| 109 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Thu, Aug 19, 2010, 23:50
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You might want to hold up on finishing up the trades in MFL. The current draft order listed is from last year when Beezer was #1.
Ex.
RotoGuru Klingons gave up:
Williams, Carnell TBB RB
Year 2010 Draft Pick 23.09
Beezer's Heinz 57s gave up:
Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.01
Guru s/b giving up 23.13
Beezer s/b giving up 10.06
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| 110 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 07:25
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I corrected the draft order. The rest of these changes will be looked at this weekend. we'll get it all squared away in time for the draft.
IAC, don't worry: I will be sure to transact the trade we agreed to in post 14.
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| 111 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 10:32
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MC - I'll look at the trades this weekend too to minimize the amount of mistakes we will make.
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| 112 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 12:36
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I see that my 5 offensive keepers were all taken in the first 16 picks of this year's RIFC. I guess this had better be my year!
(Of course, last year would have been my year - until I ran into the MC buzz saw in the playoffs.)
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| 113 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 12:38
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My thoughts on draft mechanics are that if all keepers are simply left on their kept rosters, then those forfeited picks can simply be eliminated from the draft sequence. It doesn't appear that there is any need to have a full 14 picks per round, nor any need to try to pre-assign those picks.
If that works, it would be the simplest approach, IMHO.
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| 114 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 13:15
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You can go in and assign players as keepers for individual picks on MFL. I think the owners can do it themselves if it's enabled, not sure though. The player does need to be rostered first to be selected as a keeper.
Otherwise you'd have to skip picks when they come up, since you can't skip picks in advance.
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| 115 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 13:45
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From the MFL Help Center:
How do I Assign Keepers to Draft Picks?
Answer: Once the rosters have been transferred for your league, and only after your Draft Order has been defined, can Keepers be assigned to draft picks.
Go to the For Commissioner > Setup > Select Keepers and choose a franchise to select keepers for.
Check the box next to the corresponding players name and from the pull down you will change the Draft Pick from “In Lieu Of…” to a specific Round/Pick.
Note that your draft order MUST be defined prior to selecting these keepers and any alteration to the draft order will change the round/pick for the intended keeper.
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| 116 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 18:37
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I'd like to welcome Bonka to the league. He's replacing Taxman and he'll be declaring his keepers within the next couple of days. I understand he's been very successful in the RIFC format the past few seasons, and he comes highly recommended. Bonka, we're glad to have you.
We're still on schedule to start the draft on Thursday (26 August). I'll open it up at the MFL website a day or so early so that picking can begin early if people so desire. The clock will start rolling at noon ET on Thursday, though.
legge and I will work to get the keeper version of the spreadsheet worked up and to set up the league draft website with the appropriate picks and keepers. We'll have this done by Monday so we have a few days to review and make sure there are no errors.
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| 117 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 18:44
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Thanks. I already dropped players from my roster, but I'll post my keepers here as well.
Bonka's keepers
Calvin Johnson (1)
DeAngelo Williams (2)
Matt Schaub (3)
Chris Wells (4)
Antoine Bethea (23)
Jermichael Finley (24)
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| 118 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 23:07
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Welcome Bonka.
Good addition.
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| 119 | TB
ID: 58737918
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 02:41
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Google Doc with Keepers and Draft Picks
Farting around and put that together. Let me know if I missed any trades. The keepers aren't all the actual round number with many being multiple same round, but I put them in the spot where a draft pick was lost. For Boikin, I made his keepers blue so I could put three where MC's draft picks were and keep the numbering in order. The numbers in parenthesis in the orange colored boxes are the team that owns the traded draft pick.
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| 120 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 06:19
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Thanks for putting this together TB - very handy.
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| 121 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 10:45
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Thanks TB
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| 122 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 10:55
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Welcome Bonka.
Bonka is essentially my "go to" guy for MFL questions, so he'll be a good resource for this league in that regard as well.
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| 123 | Athletics Guy
ID: 537571719
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 12:37
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Thanks for the awesome spreadsheet TB!
Welcome to the league Bonka.
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| 124 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 12:57
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"Go to" is right, because I go to the free test league I made and look at the commish options when something is needed since I've never seen them prior to a few weeks ago :D
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| 125 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 13:11
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Welcome Bonka
Thanks, TB
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| 126 | TB
ID: 58737918
Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 02:06
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I meant to say welcome to Bonka in my post above also. Pretty sure we've been in a league or two together over the years, but it's been a while. So a moderately late, welcome aboard.
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| 127 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 14:43
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Just wanted to clarify, we're going to have the keepers entered on MFL as keepers to replace the draft slots right? This way I know whether I can wait to pull the info from the site or do it manually.
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| 128 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 16:52
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Yes, I'm going to get to that at some point today or tomorrow.
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| 129 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 13:56
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In response to [109], I had to reprocess the trade between Guru and Beezer, because as Challenger mentioned, the draft order wasn't up to date. Now that it is, the proper draft picks are assigned to the correct teams, along with Cadillac being set as one of Beezer's keepers.
The website has been fully updated to process all of the pre-draft trading to date, in addition to assigning all keepers based on managers' inputs. If I were you I would go through and review the picks I've assigned each player to; the reason is that there was a lot of info to process and there's definitely the possibility I made an error or two. I think everything is correct, but I'd appreciate an assist from you if you have time. The easiest thing would be for each manager to review his own 6 players and the forfeited draft spots for each. That way those with the most to lose ensure they don't lose anything.
Legge is working on a spreadsheet to correspond with the keeper declarations. It will be the official document governing keeper assignments for next season, at least until I can be sure we have everything right at MFL.com. We'll keep that info on a separate spreadsheet until we're sure MFL is our home for the future as well. When the spreadsheet is complete he'll send it out to the league so you all have a copy.
Reminder: the draft starts Thursday at noon ET. Once I'm certain all keeper picks have been assigned to the correct draft slots, I'll open the draft. mjd has the first pick and he can pick any time after that. I'm not going to turn on the draft clock until Thursday afternoon. We're drafting using MFL.com right now in RIFC, and it's a lot different than Kafenatid. I advise everyone to go in now and start looking at the draft features on the site. You can create priority lists, but the draft software will not automatically choose a player off of your list unless you also "pre-draft" the player. This has the potential to create longer draft times because people are going to be getting used to the new format. MFL.com does not alert you via e-mail when it's your turn to pick! Queues are absolutely essential, or else we could see lots of timing out as people don't realize they're on the board. You'll need to check in often. I can make choices for you, but there are no designated pickers allowed and I work during the day. Please consider all of this during the draft. I urge you to please review the drafting features at MFL.com ASAP.
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| 130 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 15:06
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Actually, MFL will send out email alerts - but not just for your pick. An alert is sent every time anyone makes a pick. To get those alerts, though, you have to select it under For owners->Franchise setup->Contact info - and then select the box to receive Draft status updates.
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| 131 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 17:42
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I was bored here, temp outside is 105, so I decided to verify all the keepers and trades. Found only one problem:
TB keeper - (9) Williams, DJ DEN LB -listed as TB's 23rd pick
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| 132 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:31
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I'm getting tons of emails in RIFC AAA1.
Once you get use to it, MFL.com is just great.
I really like the flexibility to have different queues for different rounds.
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| 133 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:32
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If you have questions about MFL feel free to ask. I'm pretty comfortable with their system at this point and know my way around enough to let you know how to do something. If I don't know, I'll likely be able to check the site out and find out quickly.
There's lots of options for the commish to set up and there's a lot of pages for everyone to look at. If you're looking for something to view, it's probably there, just have to find it. Most things are under the Reports menu. If you don't see what you're looking for there, most likely pick the thing most related and there might be another link or options you can change on the page to view it how you'd like. Basically you have to look around and you'll eventually find everything :D
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| 134 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:34
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One thing I'll suggest to do now is this:
You can reorder franchise lists so that when you go to view roster grids (Reports > Franchise > Rosters then click on Grid Format) you can have it ordered the same as the draft (to mimic the one from Kafenatid).
Commissioner/Franchise Setup > Custom Franchise Order. You can see the franchise numbers under Franchise Setup or by mousing over team links and looking for f=0001 through f=0014.
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| 135 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 22:46
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Ah, yes. That tip in [134] was helpful. Thanks, Bonka.
Challenger, I captured that mistake on TB's roster and corrected it. Thanks for the tip.
Tonight the keeper spreadsheet was sent out. Remember, the spreadsheet is the official document going into the season and it will be used to determine where a player was chosen for 2011 keeper purposes. MFL shows what draft picks you have forfeited heading into the 2010 draft, but it's not accurate in terms of specific rounds keepers are assigned to. It shows the picks forfeited after the rules have been applied. For example, GoatLocker kept Johnny Knox and Robert Meachem, both of which cost him a 24th round pick. Since he has only one, we round up and he forfeits his 23rd and 24th round pick. But if he elects to keep one or both of them in 2011, we'll halve the number 24 to calculate the appropriate draft pick(s) to forfeit. Just because a guy is assigned to a certain slot on MFL doesn't mean that's his assigned keeper round. Just keep that in mind, and use the spreadsheet for those purposes.
I know there have been several rule change suggestions made and I want to get to those soon enough. None of them would affect the 2010 season, so I'm not in a great rush. But once we start rolling with the draft and ensure things are going smoothly, I'll start shooting out some options for discussion. The topics include the following (please feel free to add any suggestions):
1. Review the rule barring trading of draft picks in the first 5 rounds until 1 week before the draft. [Da Bomb 74]
2. Look at how many first round picks a manager should be allowed to keep. This also would apply to keeping players that require a lower draft pick when managers don't have one available (i.e., if you keep a first rounder, second rounder, and 2 third rounders--currently you are allowed to forfeit your 3rd & 4th round pics to keep those two 3rd rounder players). [boikin 98]
3. Requiring managers to sacrifice their original pick in a round to keep a player from that round. [TB 56]
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| 136 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 02:57
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Not a big deal, but I didn't get an email. I'm going to guess it was sent to the old list since I only just joined the league.
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| 137 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 21:55
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I'm setting up the draft to open at 10 ET tonight--meaning it should be open in a few minutes. Anyone who wants to start drafting can go ahead and do so, starting with mjd, of course. The timer will be activated at noon ET on Thursday.
Haven't heard from anyone about keepers being assigned to wrong slots on the draft page. I'm hoping this is because everything looks correct to those who checked. I know Challenger checked it, and I checked it. Legge is checking, too. Hopefully that will be sufficient.
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| 138 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 21:59
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Two things I should mention as the draft is starting. First, if you want emails when picks are made, you need to make sure the option is enabled. You can find it under For Owners > Franchise Setup then click on Contact Info near the top and check the boxes you want emails for.
Second, if you're using a Yahoo email address, you'll get any emails from MFL on a pretty big delay, unless that issue has been fixed, but I don't think it has. For some reason Yahoo is delaying them, nothing to do with MFL's end. I suggest setting up a gmail account and using that for the league site. You can just have the gmail account forward to your Yahoo if you want.
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| 139 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:02
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I just looked and Legge and Skeepers both have yahoo emails set up, so you guys need to do something about that if you want emails on time. Challenger also has one, but has 2 emails listed, so probably not an issue.
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| 140 | TB
ID: 58737918
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:27
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I checked my team last night and saw Challengers post, but you must have fixed it before I looked because mine was good.
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| 141 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:55
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Bonka, read post 44
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| 142 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 11:57
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Didn't realize I could have picked last night. I guess you don't
get an email for the first pick.
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| 143 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 12:46
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Stepping out for an hour or so. Left a short queue.
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| 144 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 15:58
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Okay guys, the draft has finally unofficially started with 3 selections having been made. Rev'd my draft updates to both email accounts in a timely fashion, wonder how long thats going to last, and I noticed there are only 5 teams receiving email updates: GoatLocker, Guru, mjd, Da Bomb, Bonka and me. So you might want to reread post 138 on how to receive them
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| 145 | TB
ID: 58737918
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 16:11
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I had mine set up to receive emails so missed where it said it was reset, but have it set again now.
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| 146 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 17:18
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I'm getting texts with each pick, which is AWESOME. I just wish it would do every pick and not just the non-predraft list ones.
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| 147 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 18:11
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Beezer, that's whack. I don't get why they'd set it up for that to happen.
Cool that you guys started picking today. Good job getting things going, mjd and Beezer. I see a few managers have left queues as well, so thanks for that as well.
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| 148 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 19:29
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Is the clock on? Still says that skeepers is up and it's been over
7 hours since the last pick was made.
I clicked on his name and it says that it's been over 9 days since
he's visited the site.
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| 149 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 19:31
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Clock comes on Thursday last I checked. Could send him an email, since he's set up with a yahoo account it could be delayed and he doesn't know he's up.
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| 150 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 19:38
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Duh, guess I forgot what day it is. My bad.
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| 151 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 22:00
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I have to worry about this one now.
Thought I still had some time.
j/k
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| 152 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 22:23
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boikin knows he's up. I texted him earlier. He said his access is not good and he'd pick in the morning.
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| 153 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 22:29
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How long is the clock going to be? Don't remember if it was mentioned or not.
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| 154 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 07:48
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The clock is 6 hours in RIFC. I've normally mirrored that league when it's possible, so we'll go with that. If we start to drag, I may need to shorten it.
Frankly, none of that is really ever necessary in this league. I can't remember the timer ever coming into play in this league.
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| 155 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 07:52
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I've created a thread for discussion during the draft.
RotoGurupie Keeper 14 2010 Draft Thread
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| 156 | Vicki
ID: 38740222
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 23:40
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IMHO you've got the right asnwer!
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