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0 Subject: RIFC AA DRAFT DISCUSSION

Posted by: wolfer
- [253492512] Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 13:04

Also copied from the RIFC: (with a few exceptions)

Until the first round has been completed, the clock will be turned off. After one round, the clock will be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 1am-7am EDT. Please note: I will make a decision on the clock by next Friday at noon CDT.

I am unsure as to how the MFL draft system will handle it, but the intent is that people at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.

Remember that we are using a “Banzai” draft order, which differs from the traditional snake in that the order of the third round (and only that round) is reversed. The MFL system shows the correct order.

We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette. I’ll also use this thread for general announcements about the draft.

There are some important differences in the mechanics of the MFL system vs. the kafenatid.net system that we have used in prior years. Those differences, along with instructions for using MFL, appear below in the next post.

When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. You will, however, need to start a complete lineup for the first NFL week.

Note that trades during the draft are allowed. Trades should be announced here, and may include any combination of picks and/or players.

Players who are not yet listed at myfantasyleague.com may be drafted, and if so, a placeholder player will be assigned to your roster until that player is available. Once the draft is complete, you may no longer sign (or protect) an unlisted player.

Please be sure you understand all of the scoring and roster rules for this league. The current rules will be copied into post 2 of this thread.

Rationales will be expected for each pick, but delayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.

Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.

If you wish to track the draft without directly accessing the mfl site (e.g., if that site is blocked from your access at work), the following links may be used:

List view: http://66.221.169.118/cgi-bin/mfldraft.pl?league=20248
Grid view: http://66.221.169.118/cgi-bin/mfldraftgrid.pl?league=20248
This will also allow you to keep tabs on other RIFC drafts as well. Note, however, that this is strictly a viewing mechanism. It will not allow you to actually enter a draft pick, or set up a queue. For that, you will still need to log directly into the mfl site - or else email the commish to do it.
1wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Fri, Aug 20, 2010, 13:07
more............

Here are some guidelines for executing your draft picks:

1. "My Draft List" - Under the "For Owners" menu (at the top), there is an item called My Draft List. You can think of this as your personal pre-ranking of players if you wish, although it has one important operational impact. If your 6-hour clock expires, then your pick will be automatically selected as the top name on your "My Draft List". Only if that list is empty will your pick be skipped. (More on this in a moment.)

# 2. "Pre-Draft Pick" list - These are the equivalent of the kafenatid "queue", with several important distinctions:There is a separate list/queue for each round, and they do not carry over, and
# If there is a name in your queue, that player will be immediately selected when it is your turn to draft. The only way to turn off a round-specific queue is to empty it.
Therefore, it is important to keep your queues empty unless you are sure that they should be used. If you expect to want to load & unload your queue frequently (similar to turning it on or off), then you should probably keep a list of players in "My Draft list", as you can quickly pull up that short list to add players to any queue.

Of course, if you have players in "My Draft List", then you are also subject to having those players selected if you should time-out. Typically, that shouldn't be a problem, as timing-out should be a rare occurrence.

If you want to keep players loaded in "My Draft List" and you don't want to risk the top name being selected automatically upon timeout, then I suggest putting a "placeholder" player at the top of your list. Following is a short list of possible placeholders who are retired (or dead) yet still available in the MFL database:
Chris Henry
David Tyree
Bert Berry
Junior Seau

There are undoubtedly other player names that we can come up with for additional placeholder options, if needed. If you time-out and a placeholder player is automatically selected for you, then you can have the commish replace that player with a real pick when you are available.

Note that because queued picks are automatically processed, there is no role tantamount to a designated picker. As commissioner, I can enter a pick on anyone’s behalf. Other than that, you – or anyone else with access to your MFL password – will be the only one who can directly enter a pick.

If any of these instructions are unclear, please ask.
2 fear the monkey
      ID: 37382116
      Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 17:38
when are we starting the draft?
3TB
      ID: 58737918
      Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 17:53
Yesterday. The clock hasn't started yet, but picks can be made now. Kinda surprised the first couple picks weren't already pre-loaded by the managers at the top.
4 fear the monkey
      ID: 37382116
      Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 18:14
i've been checking in, cause i'm on deck
5 fear the monkey
      ID: 37382116
      Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 20:47
wolfie give boozer the wake up call
6wolfer
      ID: 43636248
      Sat, Aug 21, 2010, 21:00
I have sent him two emails today, one this morning and one now.
7Boozer
      ID: 11653319
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 00:09
hmmmm, I see someone has decided for me....
8astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 00:12
did you want someone else?
9Boozer
      ID: 11653319
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 00:17
I was considering, i should hold comment until more picks are made. Johnson is the obvious pick, he's fine. Can move on
10 fear the monkey
      ID: 1578228
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 09:08
i notice that forth coming picks are visible on the draft page.
11 fear the monkey
      ID: 1578228
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 11:42
so with donkey hunter up, we're stalled until monday am. re post 10 those picks were made and i had the order wrong. sorry
12wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 12:10
Re 11.

Sent him an email. If he responds, I will make the pick or at least try to.
13TB
      ID: 58737918
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 12:19
I thought the draft clock didn't start until Monday. Just my 2 cents, but making picks for folks, especially this early in the draft is a recipe for hard feelings. Even if we don't start until Monday, we have time to finish. The season doesn't start for another 18 days and if need be we can shorten the clock and speed up the latter rounds. I'm as anxious as anyone to get my picks and get it done, but we have time.
14damoose
      ID: 40212622
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 12:33
I think Wolfer was instructed by guru to get the ball rolling
on the start of the draft...I can understand the first pick
being made by commissioner. But donkey hunter is a
different story...he told us ahead of time that he was going
to be without internet access...we're two or three rounds
behind the other leagues..
15TB
      ID: 58737918
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 12:53
I was looking at last years qualifier drafts and all of them started the 22nd and finished between the 2nd and 6th of Sep. I think we'd for sure like to finish by the 6th/7th so we can run a round of waivers before the Thursday game on the 9th, but I still think the latter rounds of the draft are where we speed it up and not the first few rounds. We did get a later start than the other leagues, but we also had to finish filling the league and get our draft slots. I was kinda hoping we would just auto-generate draft slots to speed that process up.
16Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 13:03
Just bump the clock down if needed and implore people to set queues at least for the 2nd half of the draft. These things go quick if people are real good with setting queues. Can easily do 4 to 5 rounds a day.
17TB
      ID: 58737918
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 13:06
Also, just looking at our draft at the site, the next guy doesn't have a player queued up so you'd be forcing a pick with no guarantee that the draft would move along any further than one pick. Don't get me wrong, I won't always set up a large queue, but when there is only one pick before me, I think it's pretty easy to set up a 2-man queue.
18Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 14:32
[14] Yes, I suggested to wolfer that he go ahead and make the first pick. Although your draft was technically still untimed, my understanding is that you were waiting for almost 2 days, and that Boozer had not been heard from at all. In the past, we've occasionally been burned when someone simply failed to show up at draft time. I didn't want to risk sitting for another day or more, waiting for some sign of life.

Suspending the clock for one round is a good idea. But waiting more than a day - without any response - is taking unfair advantage of the rest of the league.

In any event, if Boozer doesn't want Johnson, I'll bet he could negotiate a trade for any other player.
19wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 17:38
I know I said in the other thread that I was not going to pressure anyone, but I also thought that we would not be waiting like that.

20wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 17:46
Donkey Hunter will make a pick be email tonight.
21TB
      ID: 58737918
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 18:07
He made his pick. We are up to Shake & Bake at pick 11.
22Boozer
      ID: 11653319
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 18:46
Per post 95 of the getting started thread, I had marked down that the draft started on the 23rd, with it opening on the weekend for some early picks

I've been in a few of these drafts here over the years (JackHammers or Boozers is what most of my teams were called) Its been a while. But I do remember everyone always wanting to start early and getting jittery about it.

The Johnson pick is fine, (although the next pick didnt come for 8 hours).
Saturday night I wanted to watch Baltimore play and try give myself any kind of justification to take Ray Rice. Love that guy, love him this season.

of course he didnt play at all , and never gets the Goalline carries, or hasnt. I got on after the game and it was already done anyway. Somebody probobly just kept me from making a mistake. Its not a big deal as far a I'm concerned that the pick was made, but the guy picking behind who may have ended up with CJ could have a gripe lol
23wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sun, Aug 22, 2010, 22:49
I set up a list if Donkey Hunter makes his pick before I check in again.
24deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 11:20
I'm here, will pick in about 5 min.
25wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 12:49
I will be gone for a while today. Will check in for sure after 8PM CDT.
26 fear the monkey
      ID: 1578228
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 15:16
if one puts players in the draft list, will they be used when it's your pick. i don't see how to see a list of available players.
27deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:06
I can't seem to get into my draft queue to draft a player.

wolfer - please pick Philip Rivers, QB, SD for me at #38 and I'll try and figure out why I can't make my own picks on this dohickey before #51 rolls around.
28TB
      ID: 58737918
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:10
At the very top of the page you can click on For Owners.

If you then click on My Draft List, it has a list of all available players. You can import some of them or all of them onto a list and put them into your own order.

Once you do that, go back up and click For owners and then click on Draft. Whatever players you put on your draft list are now available in the drop down menu in the order you put them. You can add those players to a pre-draft list for that round queue. Once you click save, you can proceed to make a queue for the next round or just get out of it.



The reason I came to forum was to ask if the clock started. I don't see where it says it's running anywhere.
29TB
      ID: 58737918
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:11
My last post was answering fear the monkey on how to set up a queue. Hiya Roy.
30damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 20:46
Re 27

Are you using a draft round queue or your draft list?
It wont automatically draft off your draft list.
31wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 21:52
Okay, I am back and pick made from giving lessons on the golf course (LOL). I added the draft status tyo the home page.
32deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 23:35
I rebooted and finally got the top line of buttons back. It was really strange not getting any of the "-My Leagues - Help" bar at the top of the page.

(29) Hey Tom, thanks for trying to help, I didn't even have to log in after rebooting, the dang buttons just appeared at the top. I did have to wait for a virus scan to finish before the reboot which was a beyach.

Although you can't tell, this isn't my first MFL draft. They've modified the draft queueing from a couple of years ago, but it mostly the same.
33astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Mon, Aug 23, 2010, 23:49
I'm on deck. I have to go to bed soon. The site is still new to me, but I think I successfully entered a 2-man queue.
34damoose7474
      Leader
      ID: 181042723
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 11:01
wow unlucky for me....30 mins after i draft sidney rice, I read an article saying hes going to miss probably half the season. There goes a 4th rounder down the drain...
35 fear the monkey
      ID: 527342411
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 12:34
refresh me on our starting lineups. i can't remember.
36wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 13:59
Re 35

Look at the 2nd post here. For some strange reason it would not let me copy and paste it now.
37damoose7474
      Leader
      ID: 181042723
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 14:19
when and where do we do the draft rationales?
38wolfer
      ID: 547162420
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 21:16
Forgot to mention that I was not thinking to do rationales as we are behind the others. Also, I will make my pick within an hour.
39TB
      ID: 58737918
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:06
I just looked at the draft clock. Why does it say Timer Expires In About 9 hours, 21 minutes. Shouldn't we set it around 4 hours max? Anyone that can't check in every four hours throughout the day should use the queue. We continue to fall behind the other leagues and should be instead working to catch up.

Current Draft spot for all RIFC leagues:
RIFC 11.06
AAA Kyle 10.12
AAA Judy 8.09
US - 5.09
40damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:12
I agree with tb...there's some people who
haven't logged into site for over 10
hours...
41wolfer
      ID: 43636248
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 22:38
Re -39

That's figured with the clock being off. I will adjust the clock if we don't make progress soon.
42astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 23:32
I have to echo TB and damoose's comments...if I know I'm going to be up, I try my best to leave a queue if my availability is questionable. I live on the West Coast so early mornings (EST) are horrible for drafting and work prevents me from checking in regularly. Seeing relative progress in the evenings, helps clear the landscape.

I'm not uptight about finishing the draft ASAP, I just want to be able to handle it during reasonable hours and while everyone's schedule is different (night time should be for planning queue's for the next day). just my 2 cents.

43 fear the monkey
      ID: 137522422
      Tue, Aug 24, 2010, 23:52
my picks come due in ???. i have specific needs and will have 2 picks in a short period.with a draft list, how can set it for picks?. it's almost midnite et and i go to work at 630am and will be home at noon.i'll pick then. no Q .
44reeb@work
      Dude
      ID: 561124720
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 14:12
Sorry for the delay I was on the road for work Will pick shortly.
45Boozer
      ID: 307192515
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 16:19
At work but i'll try to make a pick within the hour
46damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 20:19
So are we not doing rationales?
47Pancho Villa
      ID: 29118157
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 21:47
It's frustrating to return 5 hours after I last picked to find that the last pick was....mine.

Clock, anyone?
48wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 21:59
No we are not doing rationales as we need to catch up and I need to take the bullet for post 47. I swear that I made a quick queue before I left work and I see that it did not take.
51wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Wed, Aug 25, 2010, 22:23
Let me rephrase that. We are not doing a rationale thread. However, if people want to make comments about their picks, you can do so here.
52deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 11:18
Every time I go to update my draft list from the Draft page on the left menu and I'm on the clock, I lose that top group of pull down menu's!

Sometimes I only have to stop Firefox and restart it, and sometimes I have to reboot the PC. Maybe I'll try IE8...ugh
53damoose7474
      Leader
      ID: 181042723
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 11:35
deepsnapper,

why don't you try to bookmark the page where you draft from? just in case you lose that top row of buttons.
54Boozer
      ID: 11653319
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 12:34
I'll be picking shortly
55damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 18:08
4 and a half hours between picks...
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 18:16
To overcome the MFL text message limitation that does not send notifications of queued picks, I have written an independent routine to do this.

The system will check on draft results every 10 minutes. If there have been any new picks, a separate message will be sent for each pick. The message can go to an email address, or to a cell phone as a text message. The text will simply say something of this format:
15.09(Guru) Huggins, Kareem TBB RB [Queue] -Next: Klingons
If it goes to an email address, that text will be in the subject line, and the body of the email will be blank.

If a pick was made from a queue, that will be noted.
If a team name is longer than 12 characters, then it will be truncated after the 12th
The email will come from RIFCAA@rotoguru1.com

Note: because the pick appears in the subject line, I actually like this better than the email sent from MFL - since I don't have to open the email to see what the pick(s) were.

If you want to be included on this, send me (to davehall@rotoguru2.com) your league and your email address or your cell# (and cell carrier). It's live!
57damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 18:16
We are drafting at a pace of almost a round slower then
other leagues...one league has double the amount of picks
today than us
58TB
      ID: 58737918
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 19:51
Pancho time expired. What a waste of 6 hours. What may be even sadder is that the majority of the league hasn't logged in for over 5 hours or the guy who is supposed to pick after him logging in, seeing he is next, and not leaving a two man queue.


Franchise Owner Activity Franchise Last Visited This Page
TB less than a minute ago
Moose's Heroes 38 minutes ago
Donkey Hunter 54 minutes ago
Commissioner 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
OCHO CINCO 4 hours, 25 minutes ago
fear the monkey 5 hours, 19 minutes ago
deepsnapper's Cowboys 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
FootballChallenged 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Boozer 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
reeb 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
Shake & Bake 10 hours, 5 minutes ago
Panchovians 11 hours ago
TW OneTail 13 hours, 53 minutes ago
LaJollan 20 hours, 25 minutes ago


Average Time Waiting For Pick To Be Made Franchise Avg. Wait Time # Picks
the fighting arnold ziffels 1 hour, 9 minutes 8
LaJollan 35 minutes 8
Donkey Hunter 2 hours, 23 minutes 8
Panchovians 1 hour, 20 minutes 9
deepsnapper's Cowboys 1 hour, 7 minutes 9
fear the monkey 1 hour, 20 minutes 9
OCHO CINCO 9 minutes 9
reeb 21 minutes 9
Shake & Bake 2 hours, 14 minutes 8
TB less than a minute 8
Boozer 56 minutes 8
TW OneTail 1 minute 9
Moose's Heroes 2 minutes 9
FootballChallenged 2 hours, 16 minutes 8
59Pancho Villa
      ID: 29118157
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 20:10
Well, I had a 7 player que when I left this morning. I see Royal was taken with my 8th pick. So, what happens now? Do I get to pick?

And that wait time for my picks is distortrd by this last wait.
60damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 20:20
Player queues only last one round
61damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:11
7 and a half hours since the last pick...
62TB
      ID: 58737918
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:11
You should be able to go in and pick right now. If not, commish is next so just post who you want.
63wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:17
Email me the pick or post it here. I say that as my computer is taking a dumper.
64Pancho Villa
      ID: 29118157
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:20
It won't let me pick, so for pick 9.08 I select
LaDanian Tomlinson, RB, Jets

As a postscript, I apologize for not realizing my que wouldn't carry over. One of the great things about Kafenatid is that you could fill your que with different positions, and have designated pickers select for you, with instructions to take only 1 QB, then a WR, etc.

This is a new system I'm not acquainted with, but I assure everyone that I will be more conscientious the rest of the way.
65damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:34
Shake and bake is up but hasn't logged in for 12 hours
66damoose on phone
      ID: 40212622
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 21:39
Pancho...

Under for owners then draft preferences, you can adjust it so it picks a certain position that round
67wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 22:38
I don't think he can do it. I made the pick.
68TB
      ID: 58737918
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 23:01
DaMoose is talking about how to set preferences for your queue. You can load a boatload of players into your draft list and then import that entire list into your draft by round. Then you can go to Draft Preferences and pick one position or multiple positions with the CTRL button. So if I wanted a WR in round 8, but a DB or RB in round 9, I could have all the same players in the same order for both lists, but it would select my top rated player based on the positions I requested.
69Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 23:11
That doesn't work if you set queues, it's only the My Draft List. I suggest not using it, it's basically useless. You can do the same exact thing by setting queues for each round.
70TB
      ID: 58737918
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 23:45
Good to know. I was farting around with it and thinking about using for my next two rounds.
71astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Thu, Aug 26, 2010, 23:54
TB, thanks for the info on avg drafting time... it is a good reminder to be considerate.

Just want to point out that using my phone I can reload the draft status but it doesn't reflect in "Last Visited This Page" based on their numbers. I logged in a PC last night (which is what they use to measure time) but I was able to track the draft due to being continuously logged in via my phone. So it isn't altogether accurate.
72TB
      ID: 58737918
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 01:21
That was posted more out of frustration with the slow draft. I copied and pasted it from the MFL site, but I know it's easy to track the draft without logging in until it's time to pick.

You're on my shit-list for different reasons. You took Pierre Thomas and Dallas Clark right before my pick when they were both at the top of my queue. =)
73astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 01:30
ok. my point is in certain browsers (assuming Safari since I have an iPhone) if you are 'always logged in', it doesn't update the login timestamp on the MFL site.

I'm sorry I took your RB and TE... hopefully you didn't have to wait too long ;) j/k

Btw, were you once TBraiders on RG?
74TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 12:27
Yes, shortened my name a few years back.

Just for more fun:

letterj 2 hours, 1 minute 16
twilson 1 hour, 55 minutes 16
youngroman 1 hour, 9 minutes 16
Building7 1 hour 16
Promize 54 minutes 17
Slizz 50 minutes 17
Electro Eagles 41 minutes 16
IAC 37 minutes 16
Frick 36 minutes 16
Mötley Crüe 34 minutes 16
Fugazi 32 minutes 16
Guru 25 minutes 17
Smith32 24 minutes 16
Bonka 3 minutes 17

4 managers averaging over an hour (One over 2 hours)
3 managers averaging 30 minutes or less


Nerfherders 1 hour, 43 minutes 15
Ref 1 hour, 40 minutes 15
TD Dragons 1 hour, 19 minutes 16
NY Titans 1 hour, 16 minutes 14
CC 1 hour, 3 minutes 16
Toral Wheatfarmers 52 minutes 16
footwedge 46 minutes 16
HOLT 36 minutes 16
RIFC bound 30 minutes 15
mjd 24 minutes 16
Slowhand 22 minutes 16
dpr 8 minutes 16
taxman 3 minutes 15
GhostWood less than a minute 16

5 managers averaging over an hour (none over 2 hours)
6 managers averaging 30 minutes or less


beastiemiked 2 hours, 7 minutes 17
Ocho No No 1 hour, 31 minutes 17
SwinganaMiss 1 hour, 30 minutes 18
Da Bomb Squad 1 hour, 15 minutes 16
Juking Safety 1 hour, 12 minutes 17
Valkyrie 2010 42 minutes 18
CowboysHomer 37 minutes 17
Slackjawed Yokels 30 minutes 17
VampireWeekend 29 minutes 18
Crazy 88s 29 minutes 18
Art's in the Hall 13 minutes 18
Tree 8 minutes 17
GoatLockers Goons 8 minutes 18
Kyle 7 minutes 17

5 managers averaging over an hour (One over 2 hours)
7 managers averaging 30 minutes or less


Donkey Hunter 2 hours, 29 minutes 10
Shake & Bake 2 hours 10
FootballChallenged 1 hour, 50 minutes 10
Panchovians 1 hour, 29 minutes 10
fear the monkey 1 hour, 12 minutes 10
deepsnapper 1 hour, 9 minutes 10
Wolfer 1 hour, 3 minutes 10
Boozer 53 minutes 9
Astade 30 minutes 10
reeb 19 minutes 10
OCHO CINCO 9 minutes 10
Moose's Heroes 2 minutes 10
TW OneTail 1 minute 10
TB less than a minute 10

7 managers averaging over an hour (Two over 2 hours)
6 managers averaging 30 minutes or less


The Draft is Taking Forever All-Star team:
Donkey Hunter 2 hours, 29 minutes 10 (AA)
beastiemiked 2 hours, 7 minutes 17 (AAA Kyle)
letterj 2 hours, 1 minute 16 (RIFC)
Shake & Bake 2 hours, 0 minutes 10 (AA)
twilson 1 hour, 55 minutes 16 (RIFC)
FootballChallenged 1 hour, 50 minutes 10 (AA)
Nerfherders 1 hour, 43 minutes 15 (AAA Judy)
Ref 1 hour, 40 minutes 15 (AAA Judy)
Ocho No No 1 hour, 31 minutes 17 (AAA Kyle)
SwinganaMiss 1 hour, 30 minutes 18 (AAA Kyle)
Panchovians 1 hour, 29 minutes 10 (AA)
TD Dragons 1 hour, 19 minutes 16 (AAA Judy)
NY Titans 1 hour, 16 minutes 14 (AAA Judy)
Da Bomb Squad 1 hour, 15 minutes 16 (AAA Kyle)
These 14 managers have combined for 314 hours and 15 minutes of draft clock time (as of about 30-40 minutes ago when I pulled the data). That is over 17 days. Closer to 17 and a half days and thats 201 picks, so they'd be in the 15th round with only another 2 weeks to go to complete the draft.

I am laughing while I type this so please just take it as good-natured ribbing if your name is on this list (but feel free to research the queue option as well...lol)
75astade
      ID: 20521919
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 17:24
pick in the next 10!
76Donkey Hunter
      ID: 387551911
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 18:03
While I love being named to all star teams, the 16 hours of delays caused by my first two picks while I was floating around the caribbean has been dragging my average quite a bit. So I will have to respectfully decline my Draft is Taking Forever MVP award.
77TB
      ID: 58737918
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 18:17
First two picks were only 10 1/2 hours of draft clock time, but whose counting? =)

I think I am going out of town next Friday for the entire weekend, so if we aren't done before then I imagine I might make the all star team before this is over.
78wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Fri, Aug 27, 2010, 22:18
Woohoo!!!! I am back under an hour!

My goal is to wrap this puppy up by next weekend by hook ot by crook. I think we have sufficient progress to keep the clock as is through the weekend. I will revisit it on Sunday night.
79deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 03:37
wolfer - I was looking at the "Submit lineup" to see how I was doing on filling my roster and it has the defensive alignment as follows:

Select 1-4 DT+DE
Select 1-4 LB
Select 1 Def

No mention of DB's. what does that mean?
80wolfer
      ID: 43636248
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 08:32
Let me look at that.
81 fear the monkey
      ID: 23733288
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 09:33
i've noticed quite a few def players aren't listed. how does one get certain players not listed?
82TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 12:46
On the left menu under Players, click on Search and then you can type in their last name.
83TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 12:47
You can also click on Free Agents under Players and it gives an entire list that you can sort by position and team.
84wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 13:55
Re 79.

I have not had time to look over your team, but did you draft any DBs yet? I did not draft any yet and I see the same message.
85Donkey Hunter
      ID: 557471414
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 14:26
It does not show the position until you have someone to fill it. I had the same thing show up at QB until quite recently.
86 fear the monkey
      ID: 23733288
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 15:31
re 82 and 83

it won't allow us to add the players to our draft list until the commish changes settings in the general setup
87Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 15:38
If you're clicking on 'add' or whatever when looking at a player, that's for waivers. All the players in the system are available through the draft page, but you can't sort by ADP. The ADP eventually runs out, and you have to just sort by name and start typing their name and it'll get to them. Or you can scroll through the list.
88deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 17:20
<85> Thanks DH. I haven't drafted a DB yet and when I went back and looked, it didn't display a K either and I haven't drafted one of those also.

Like my mama said when I was a kid, "If you don't know the answer, ask a question - there's no stupid questions, just stupid answers". lol

Will we know when astade makes up for his skipped pick? I put a placeholder in my draft tracker to keep it kosher with the draft and can update it later with the correct pick unless he decides to draft Plaxico. lol
89TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 17:25
Looks like he just logged in so maybe he can make a pick now.
90astade
      Sustainer
      ID: 214361313
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 17:32
firstly, sorry for timing out. trying to figure this out and can't figure out how to draft for rd 13...I would like Matt Cassel.

Wolfer or someone else more familiar w/ this site, can you please help?

I'll then leave a queue for my next pick.
91wolfer
      ID: 253492512
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 18:34
Pick noted. Make your pick at any time.
92 fear the monkey
      ID: 23733288
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 19:45
say i want to draft aaron smith at DL. he shows under the player search toolbar, but can't be added until after the draft.we're gonna run out of available defensive players.
93deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 19:49
I'm set up for Rds 15-16. If it gets back close to me for Rd 17, would someone call or text me. I was visited with a migraine in the middle of the night and it's been more off than on since then.

I posted my # on the AA message board if u need it.

ds
94TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 19:53
fear the monkey, go to For Owners, My Draft List and then under your name on the left is says:
Start With: ADP | Alpha | Top Performers

If you click on Alpha it lists everyone in alphabetical order.
95 fear the monkey
      ID: 23733288
      Sat, Aug 28, 2010, 20:38
thanx TB. this dumb ass could soon become a contender
96deepsnapper
      ID: 342492922
      Mon, Aug 30, 2010, 12:12
thx wolfer. I was updating another draft when u texted. Late morning for me.
97deepsnapper
      ID: 342492922
      Mon, Aug 30, 2010, 16:33
give me about 10 to catch up on the last few picks.
98deepsnapper
      ID: 342492922
      Wed, Sep 01, 2010, 10:13
There's 4 manual picks left in the draft. Let's finish this thang!
99TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Sep 06, 2010, 00:20
Got this from a post in another MFL league by Bonka:
The commissioner account should be locked out during the season unless a change needs to be made. This is just something commonly done in the MFL leagues since that account has control over everyone's teams and can preform actions as them as well as peek at draft or waiver queues. You can change it under Abilities Setup. The setting is viewable under the league bylaws as well.

Commissioner Lockout: No, the commissioner still has the ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions.

It should say:
Commissioner Lockout: Yes, the commissioner has given up his ability to view pending owner-initiated transactions.
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