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Subject: PS3 Camping Out Stategies
Posted by: J
- Leader [049346417] Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:12
I've got some friends who have talked me into camping out for a new PS3. The plan is Wal-Mart after work (they're giving out "tickets" at 11pm, then the PS3's go on sale at midnight.
Or other places, best buy/circuit city open up at 8am, so we'll probably go straight from Wal-Mart to one of the other places.
These things are selling for over $2,000 on ebay. Seems like an easy way to make some $$$$
Anyone done this before? Any suggestions/advice? Is this a bad idea? |
| 1 | Farn
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:30
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Unless you are going by at least Thursday morning don't bother.
I read a report earlier that in some places people started camping out yesterday. So if you aren't there at least 18hrs in advance your chances are none.
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| 2 | beastiemiked
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:36
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Unless you are going by at least Thursday morning don't bother.
I agree. Also, it sounds like they are shipping less than expected too. I couldn't think of anything worse than camping out and not getting one.
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| 3 | The Treasonists
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:40
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I was at Circuit City today and there were two tents there camping out. And a new guy was setting up.
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| 4 | Punk42AE
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:41
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400K PS3 coming out here. 500K PS2's were released. Japan just had their PS3 release of 100K and 88K were sold to regular Joes. Basically if you have a plan to get one take off Wednesday and got here in line then.
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| 5 | Tree
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 19:49
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more importantly, will the price of the PSP drop now, so i can get one? :o)
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| 6 | Motley Crue
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 21:02
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J, I think it depends on where you live, too, to an extent. Don't you live in Atlanta? I presume that will make it tough.
My friend and I were discussing this today. We live in the Florida panhandle and we are thinking of ways to get a PS3. There's a WalMart close by and a Best Buy, too, but we heard there was a mighty crowd when XBox 360 came out at the Best Buy.
Ain't no way I'm camping out. If I go to WM at midnight and they have none, so be it.
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| 7 | Donkey Hunter
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 21:25
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Per Best Buy website they are giving out tickets at 7 am on opening day. Guaranteed at least 26 units per store.
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| 8 | J
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 22:04
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I plan on taking advantage of the atlanta suburbs...I'm talking an hour outside the city.
These things are on ebay for $1,700 and up. Thats what? $1,100 profit???? Its worth losing a day of sleep over I think :)
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| 9 | R9
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 22:09
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Its a good time to be a Best Buy employee. ;)
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| 10 | The Beezer
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Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 22:19
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A buddy of mine from work and I are planning on doing this at the BFE Wal-Marts out here. Supercenter first in a fairly small town about 30 minutes away and then to the local regular store for an overnight wait if necessary.
My buddy is actually going to keep his, but mine will magically turn into money if I can get my hands on one.
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| 11 | KM
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 01:30
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Who are these junkies online that pay 3x the price? They can't wait a couple weeks?
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| 12 | The Beezer
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 06:13
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Spending a grand is a lot easier than actually investing time or love if you're a parent. I suspect that drives a fair portion of the buys.
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| 13 | Boxman
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 06:38
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To Whoever Is Staying Outside For A PS3:
I slept outside for an XBox 360 last year. I was outside a Best Buy from about 5:00pm to 9am the following morning. This was in a suburb of Chicago in November; so it was cold. I was 8th in line out of about a few hundred people. They only got in 60 systems (48 premium, 12 core).
Let me give you some advice. Bring a lot of things to do and get to know the people around you even if they are jerks. If you've got to leave the line to pee or grab dinner/breakfast, you don't want some jerk taking your spot in line.
Don't bring cash, and if you are using cash, have someone drop it off to you in the morning. I had a teenage kid next to me carrying about $1000. I knew because he told me, not very street smart this kid. I told him to actually think about where he was; outside with a bunch of strangers that could take his money when he was sleeping. He called him mom and she picked up the $$$ and brought it back the next morning.
In my case we all made deals with each other that people could leave for short times to grab food, booze, or to drop a deuce, but if you were gone for a couple hours, too bad.
In retrospect it was a lot of fun and if I believed that a PS3 would add something to my gaming addiction (like kick ass exlusive launch titles) that the 360 doesn't already satisfy, I'd be out there again for sure. I never had that much in common with so many strangers before. At around 2am it almost had a block party from hell feel to it.
Best of luck to you guys and I'm really excited to hear how it goes for you. I heard Sony cut back their shipment from 500k US to 400k US so get there early.
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| 14 | Tree
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 07:19
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they just had a story here in NYC on NY1 about people that have been camping out since yesterday, and earlier.
the place they're camping at will only have 100 machines. there are already more than 100 people in line. additionally, the store had previously announced they would begin giving out wristbands on thursday.
they started on monday. oops.
also, in regards to KM saying Who are these junkies online that pay 3x the price? They can't wait a couple weeks?
it is appearing as if it will be much longer. these may be the only machines until well after christmas.
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| 15 | boikin
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 10:20
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to add to Boxman's waiting out advice as someone who has 'camped' out multiple times for basketball games and football tickets, try a find a friend to bring allong with you not only does it make time go by faster but it makes the spot holding much easier. Also nothing helps makes friends with line mates like some extra food and a mini dvd player or laptop with a dvd player and some movies.
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| 16 | KM
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 11:23
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Wow, Tree, had no idea. Is this a production capacity issue? They are clearly leaving value on the table.
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| 17 | Boxman
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 13:19
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Is this a production capacity issue? They are clearly leaving value on the table.
This is the same routine that goes on during every video game system launch that I have seen. In addition to the 360, I bought a PS2 and a Dreamcast at launch.
All of these systems had supply issues so the problem is not Sony specific.
What the gaming companies do is launch these systems just before Christmas and there is usually a 5-6 year gap in between consoles launched by the same maker.
This means that you've got system starved gamers who are playing with 5 year old technology coupled with the typical bonanza that is the Christmas shopping season. I'm not sure Sony or Microsoft could've made enough systems to satisfy everyone at launch.
With demand at probably near the all time high of the product lifestyle in a short time period combined with probably a fixed production capacity, there's no way for them to produce enough units without over expanding their production capacity. Video game sales slump as the weather gets nicer. Ever notice that no good games come out in the summer? What do you do with all that extra capacity then that was previously utilized at launch and the holidays? It adds too much overhead.
From their standpoint, it's better for business to have all this hype (free publicity), have the "hot" thing around the holidays and not have to incur all the overhead that's involved with adding extra production capacity that may lie dormant for half the year.
As a gamer, I am sort of happy this problem exists. Part of the first wave of the 360 had units that had faulty hard drives and disc drives. How do you exchange the unit for a new one if the store is out of them for four months? Microsoft did allow those gamers to ship the units to them for free repair.
Now if Microsoft launch double the systems on launch day, I'd wager there would be at least double the malfunctions (perhaps more depending on how well they QC'd things out the door when under the gun). So now you've got twice the gamers that are screwed and ticked off customers.
I'd rather those problems occur in the inital smaller wave of systems than in a larger launch. Because as a gamer, if I didn't get one because of supply problems, I just dodged a major bullet because of the low quality control. When the next wave hits, those bugs were fixed and as a gamer my probability of buying a system that works goes up and so does my probability of successfully exchanging that system at the store because the supply went up since the second wave leaves more units on the shelves than on launch day.
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| 18 | KM
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 13:50
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Yeah that makes sense. Lost $$ from supply shortfall < long-term costs of dealing with temporary bottleneck.
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| 19 | youngroman
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 13:54
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Boxman - your points may also be true, but the real problem is Blue-ray Causes PS3 Delay
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| 20 | J
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 13:58
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I just got an email saying that people in town are already camped out...and its been raining badly all day today. And supposedly most stores are only getting 20 PS3's or so. Target is apparently only getting 6 per store!
Its not looking good!
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| 21 | Boxman
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 14:29
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Good find J, that last paragraph says a lot.
If Sony manufactures fewer PS3s, some could say it's losing less money in the short term. Furthermore, if those supplies end up being delayed by more than a single quarter, which is likely due to missing the holiday rush, component costs for Sony could actually decline, meaning the company saves even more on per-unit costs once it can fulfill those orders.
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| 22 | Punk42AE
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 19:27
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I believe I read that they are losing $700-900 per unit on these first shipments and Sony Gaming is supposed to lose 3.7B by the end of their Fiscal year (March), all of it on PS3's.
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| 23 | beastiemiked
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 20:02
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I just went to Best Buy. There were 4-5 people waiting outside(it's raining, windy and expected to drop in the high 30's tonight). I went inside and saw some guy playing the new PS3. He was playing some racing game and was sucking but the graphics looked amazing. If I had a buddy to wait with me, I'd be tempted to go wait in line with my flask and a bunch of warm clothes.
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| 24 | J
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 20:04
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SW found this site...may help plot some plans for this
http://www.ps3seeker.com/
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| 25 | J
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 20:29
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I've called 2 places...
Best Buy (ATL suburb) - they say they'll have 28-30 PS3's and already have 35 people camping out! Its been POURING all day and its cold!!!! Bastards!
EBGames - the guy there said that instead of the 400,000 units that were supposed to be shipped initially...only 250,000 actually were shipped.
ughhhhhhhhhhh, this ain't happenen
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| 26 | Mike D
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Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 21:00
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I'm not happy about the problems with backward compatibility.......allegedly firmware upgrades will fix them, but I have my doubt. I guess you can always keep a PS2 on hand, but still.
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| 27 | Punk42AE
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 01:10
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Honestly I don't see why everyone is up in arms over the backwords compatibilty stuff. On my PS2 I think i've played maybe 5 PS1 games. Half of which were Final Fantasy replays.
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| 28 | Punk42AE
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 01:14
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150-200K?
I'm going to guess it will be fairly close to the 400K they predicted. But you never know.
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| 29 | Boxman
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 07:24
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Honestly I don't see why everyone is up in arms over the backwords compatibilty stuff. On my PS2 I think i've played maybe 5 PS1 games.
I don't get it either because on consoles that did have backwards compatability, like the PS2, I didn't see a graphics boost or anything.
I could understand if there's limited input jacks on the back of the TV, but there's system switch boxes to work around that.
WGN-TV showed some footage of Best Buys in the Chicago suburbs and the lines are what we all expected them to be.
If they are able to get near 700k units by year-end maybe people won't have to sleep outside this time to get one for Christmas.
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| 30 | barilko6
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 09:24
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Drove past Future shop on my way into work and the line is already about 12 tents long...
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| 31 | J
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 18:02
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Alright, we found a place...they're getting 40 units and we're #30, #31, #32, #33 in line...wish me luck :)
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| 32 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 18:09
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In podunkville USA where I live the local Walsmart has 6 coming...and had a lineup since yesterday morning.
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| 33 | Electroman
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 18:13
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Ebay to limit sales of PS3 console
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| 34 | The Beezer
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 18:54
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Same here RSF. Had people waiting through storms since last night around here. Just not worth it for me since I'm just going to flip it anyway. Oh well.
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| 35 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 22:58
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Per chance I went to a different store to guy buy some stuff and they had a sign up saying they are getting 4 PS3. At 6:45 am they are giving a ticket to anyone wanting to buy a PS3, then at 7:00 am they are drawing 4 winning tickets to see who gets them.
I might just do that. Atleast I'll go by at 6:30 and see how many people are there.
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| 36 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 22:58
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Torrential downpours in Brooklyn this evening. We walked past 20-25 people camped outside Circuit City at the Atlantic Center Mall. A few huddled under a plastic dropcloth or something. Others had umbrellas, some were just in raincoats. Morons.
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| 37 | Rendle
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Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 23:03
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Kobe gave 4 PS3s to the guys on Inside the NBA because Charles called him selfish last year.
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| 38 | J
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 00:06
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so here's my sob story.
A guy at work's girlfriend works at a place called "Fry's" an electronics store with 2 locations in town. She calls to tell him they received 40 PS3's around lunch-time and 15 people were camped out.
We got there at about 6 and was able to save us 4 spots "in line".
Long story short...turns out 20 of the 40 PS3s were for the other store. We were lucky enough to find out at 9pm, so we gave up.
No PS3 for me :(
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| 39 | The Beezer
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 00:15
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That's painful. I'll be curious to see how many units actually shipped as it seems like everyone I've heard says stores have gotten as many or less than they expected, with most getting less.
I'd say the shortages bode well for the Nintendo launch on Sunday. Anyone picking up one of those? I'll be waiting a month until I finish my class this semester but I'm really looking forward to it.
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| 40 | Tree
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 06:56
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Torrential downpours in Brooklyn this evening. We walked past 20-25 people camped outside Circuit City at the Atlantic Center Mall. A few huddled under a plastic dropcloth or something. Others had umbrellas, some were just in raincoats. Morons.
walked past the same scene at the Best But on 23rd and 6th in Manhattan. huddled up under tarps in a downpour, wind blowing at 40 mph turning the rain horizontal. it's only a video game folks.
i will admit to a bit of envy though. what type of young person can afford to take a week off work, then plunk down 600 bucks for a video game, plus more for games to actually play.
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| 41 | Great One
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 10:03
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Days of waiting paid off for Sergio Rodriguez, one of the relatively few able to buy Sony's PlayStation 3 when the coveted console went on sale early Friday.
He was among the die-hard gamers and entrepreneurs across the country who braved foul weather and heckling by passers-by all week for the chance to shell out $500 or more for the sleek game machine.
With shortages resulting from production problems, many had camped out for days without knowing if they'd be going home empty-handed. At some stores, the crowds got rowdy and stampeded for the shelves, injuring a man in Wisconsin and forcing authorities to shut down a Wal-Mart store in California.
In Connecticut, two armed thugs who got wise to the PS3's high price and tried to rob a line of people waiting outside a Putnam Wal-Mart store at 3 a.m. One person who refused to give up the money was shot, state police said. In Lexington, Kentucky, four people waiting outside a Best Buy were hit by BB pellets, though none was seriously injured, according to television station WKYT, whose own reporter was hit as she interviewed buyers.
Rodriguez had been waiting outside the New York Circuit City store since Sunday for the a midnight launch event, and he was the first to walk away with the PS3 as people still standing in line outside the store cheered.
"This is the best game ever. It's so worth the wait," the 25-year-old graphics designer said. "Some people may call me crazy, but I really love to play."
With Sony promising only 400,000 systems for the nationwide launch, the chance of disappointment was high. While retailers tried to keep expectations low, lines snaked around the block at many stores -- even those that weren't going to begin sales until later Friday.
Saby Madrigal, an 18-year-old college student who worked for a month at a liquor store to save for a PS3, waited in line outside the Circuit City for 24 hours without success. Still, she vowed to keep looking.
"For the work we had to do to get all the money to get the stupid system, I'm going to search every single store in town," she said. "I don't care, I'm going to get it."
Some who saw long lines at the midnight launches simply went to another location, with later openings and smaller crowds. Nonetheless, about 50 people were in front of Ahmad Mustafa, 24, outside a New York Best Buy with only 34 units available.
Ernie Ferreira, 22, of Allentown, Pennsylvania, who was visiting relatives in New York, was No. 4 in line and didn't mind waiting for the store's 8 a.m. opening.
"Only seven or eight hours, I can handle that," he said. "I did it three nights already."
Nathaniel Lord, who camped out for three nights at a Best Buy in West Hollywood, California, spent more than $700 on a console and game.
"I thought about going home to shower first because I haven't showered in three days, but I think I'm just going to get another energy drink, log on and get started," said Lord, a recent graduate of California Institute of the Arts.
Sony, which has contended with laptop battery recalls and trails rivals in key products such as music players and liquid crystal displays, is counting on the PS3 to maintain and build its market lead in consoles.
Some customers were buying PS3 machines for themselves or as gifts, but many were hoping to resell them at a profit. Units were fetching several thousand dollars early Friday at the eBay Inc. auction site.
James Salterio, 27, explained the reason for his two-day camp-out outside a Houston, Texas, Target store: Greed.
"I'm gonna sell mine," Salterio said, figuring he could make $1,500 to $4,000. His 21-year-old brother, a gamer, wanted company in line, so Salterio decided to make a profit in the process.
"It's capitalism at work," he said.
Edgar Alcala, 18, who grabbed one of the first spots in line at San Francisco, California's Sony Metreon Mall on Wednesday morning, said he was looking forward to a warm, dry bed and a hefty profit.
"When I get home, I'm going to take a quick picture of it, slap it on eBay and go to sleep," Alcala said minutes before the store's doors opened at midnight Friday.
Potential customers braved freezing temperatures in Fargo, North Dakota, and heavy rain and winds in Baltimore, Maryland, and other East Coast locales.
"Katrina could come through here and I wouldn't switch," said Marco Cajas, 20, of Baltimore. "I spent the night on the cold street."
Even a volunteer for former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina asked for help in getting a PS3 -- from Wal-Mart Stores Inc., which the potential 2008 presidential candidate frequently criticizes.
Edwards said the volunteer "feels terrible" about seeking the console from Wal-Mart a day after his boss criticized the retail giant, saying it doesn't treat its employees fairly.
Wal-Mart accused Edwards, the Democrats' vice presidential candidate in 2004, of not wanting to wait his turn.
Short supplies and strong demand were feared to be a formula for trouble as the PS3 hit store shelves, a half-year late because of problems completing work on the console's built-in, next-generation DVD player.
In Palmdale, California, authorities shut down a Super Wal-Mart after some shoppers got rowdy late Wednesday. In West Bend, Wisconsin, a 19-year-old man ran into a pole and struck his head racing with 50 others for one of 10 spots outside a Wal-Mart.
Many stores reported calm.
At a Best Buy in Boston, Massachusetts, with 140 machines for sale, employees simply gave out tickets for the first 140 in line so that everyone else could go home.
At San Francisco's Sony Metreon mall, a "sacred scroll" notebook kept track of the first 505 people in line so they could go to the bathroom or pick up food without losing their spots. Some got wristbands guaranteeing a unit.
There was even a vibrant economy in Mount Laurel, New Jersey. Restaurants not only delivered pizza and wings, but also dispatched workers to hand out menus. The Dick's Sporting Goods store nearby sold camp chairs and more than a few tents.
Even as retailers drummed up publicity by throwing parties and inviting celebrities, Best Buy Co., Circuit City Stores and others warned customers all week that supplies would be tight.
Sony promised the 400,000 machines in the United States for Friday's launch and about 1 million by year's end. Worldwide, it was expecting 2 million this year, half its original projections.
Jack Tretton, executive vice president at Sony Computer Entertainment America, said retailers will be receiving new PlayStations daily -- expedited by plane rather than ships.
"At some point we want to get to some degree of normalcy, but that remains to be seen," Tretton said, adding that seeing all the people camped out and lined up for the console "kind of makes all the effort worth it."
Enthusiasm for the PlayStation 3 wasn't dampened by its high price tag -- $500 for the basic model with a 20-gigabyte hard drive and $600 for the 60-gigabyte version, which also has built-in wireless.
By contrast, Nintendo's Wii, which goes on sale Sunday in the United States, retails for $250. Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360, which had a year's head start over rivals, sells for $300 to $400.
Sony crammed the PlayStation 3 with the very latest in cutting-edge technology, and it dominated the previous generation of consoles with 70 percent of the global market.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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| 42 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 10:26
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No PS3 for me. About 200-250 people showed up. I got there about 6:25 or so and was about in the mid 100s. If I had been a minute later, I might have got one as a person 7 behind me and 15 behind me got one.
Oh well, not a heavy investment (35 minutes) for a chance at a free Christmas. :)
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| 43 | Electroman
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 11:02
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OMG, I am looking on ebay just out of curiosity. Just was following one that went for $15,100. Sorry, but that is totally insane. I guess that the wait for that seller was worth it.
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| 44 | Tree
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 11:14
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the crowds got rowdy and stampeded for the shelves, injuring a man in Wisconsin...
what this story doesn't tell you is that the guy ran smack dab into a pole, injuring himself. seriously. i'm not making that up.
ok, correction. later in the story they do tell you that.
who worked for a month at a liquor store to save for a PS3..
oh, poor delicate princess. she had to work for...a whole month!!! omg!!! no way!!
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| 45 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 11:30
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Hmm.
The person who made a $14,500 profit might not be not a moron.
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| 46 | Species
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:06
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A store in my town was robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight yesterday where the gunmen came out with 4 PS3's and some Xbox 360's.
Crazy!
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| 47 | sarge33rd
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:21
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PlayStation 3 shopper shot outside Wal-Mart
WTF are people doing??? Lining up at 3am to get a chance at a gddmn console?????? Bunch of "monkey see-monkey do" dipshits IMHO.
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| 48 | Electroman
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:32
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If you want to have some fun, have a window open on ebay. Watch for the PS3's that have about a minute left. Click on it and just refresh and wtach the price go up. I just watched one that went from 5,100 to 14,100 in 1 minute.
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| 49 | Texas Flood
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:35
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To think I paid a mere $499.00 for my first PS1. I have many games for PS2 that I have yet to complete. I'm working on FFXII right now and it appears that it will suck about 80+ hours of my life.
I'll be getting the PS3 at some point but I want to see the game selection and let the first gen system get all the bugs out.
I curious to see how the whole Blue Ray thing vs HDDVD works out. Kind of reminds me of the BETA vs VHS thing.
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| 50 | Electroman
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:45
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I paid that for my PS2, $499. I will wait until next year when the new Madden comes out to buy the PS3. I think I will be able to get it for under $10,000.
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| 51 | sarge33rd
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 12:52
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roflmfao
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| 52 | Texas Flood
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 13:03
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Checking on the PS3 auctions the highest legit acution is at about a $1000 with two hours left in the bidding. All of the insane auctions feature either buyers or sellers with "0" feedback. Did you see the one for over $150,000.
It's all a buch of hooey!
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| 53 | KnicksFan
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 13:49
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There was one that was up to $99,999,999.00 which I assume is the limit on ebay. I guess that one was offering free shipping or something.
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| 54 | Athletics Guy
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 14:54
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Wow, who's the dummy who came up with this idea?
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| 55 | Texas Flood
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Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 15:54
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I smell lawsuit....I betting he gets more than a PS3 from Wally World.
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| 56 | smallwhirled
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Sun, Nov 19, 2006, 22:13
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Anyone picking up the Burger King video games? I might have to go get them this week....and a value meal.
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| 57 | Boxman
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Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 06:33
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What I find interesting about this generation of console wars is that the winner could ultimately be determined by a factor that has nothing to do with video games.
XBox360 supports HD-DVD if you buy an external drive; which I did.
PS3 supports Blueray. While the PS3 is $600, staggering for a console, it's peanuts in the Blueray player market.
Boxman Clause was looking to get the "house" a high def movie player for Christmas. I priced out a Blueray player and an HD-DVD player. They retail for approximately $1000 and $500 respectively. Without a clear winner like Beta versus VHS, I wasn't going to drop the $$$.
Finding out that the XBox360 had an HD-DVD player for $200 sold me on it. There's no guarentee that either Blueray or HD-DVD will win out. So the "house" is probably getting something else for Christmas this year.
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| 58 | Tree
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Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 06:43
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not only is there no guarantee whether BD or HD will win, there's no guarantee that either of them will win.
i'm in the video business, on both the studio and distribution end. so far, our in-house studio, has yet to commit to either, as we wait to see how the battle pans out. we have one distributed studio that has put out one HD, and one BD.
that's it. thousands of titles in our library, and one HD, and one BD.
it is only in the past decade that the american public has replaced it's VHS collection with DVDs, and DVDs have become something that VHS never did, and that's become "collectable" - people display their DVD collections proudly.
i do not believe the american public is ready to start "replacing" again. i think HD and/or BD will both become "videophile" type of niche audiences, like Super Audio or similars on the audio side of things.
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| 59 | Rendle
Donor
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Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 08:52
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I own 600 DVDs and I'm really hoping these new formats don't take off. Right now it doesn't seem like the quality is that much better. Standard DVDs already look much better on high definition TVs. I know that HD and Blue Ray are backwards compatible but I don't see enough of an upgrade to convert.
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| 60 | KnicksFan
Sustainer
ID: 030815418
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 12:52
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If anyone is searching for a Wii in the NYC area, I just picked one up at the Toys R Us in Times Square and they had well over 100 on display (probably more in the back too). I think they're also still available at the Nintendo store in Rockefeller Center. Aside from those two locations I believe they are sold out in the metropolitan area.
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| 61 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 14:40
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Man. There really should be stiffer penalties for armed attempted robbery.
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| 62 | Texas Flood
ID: 8762917
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 21:03
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I can remember paying over $600 for my fist single disc CD player. I would imagine whatever format survives it soon be at your local discount store for cheap. I'm not buying any of the new generation game consoles till the price takes a significant hit.
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| 63 | Boxman
ID: 47922511
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 13:22
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I called some local retailers for kicks about PS3 availability. They are saying they don't expect any new units until next year so I'm not putting much stock into a Sony report that says an additional 500k units will hit before EOY.
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