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Subject: Hip Hop/Rap/R&B Joints
Posted by: Twarpy
- Leader [386242821] Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 20:38
I know some of you guys (mostly the younger generation) are into hip hop etc. theres a thread on the politics forum on what everyone is listening to so I thought why not start one here.
Right now there are some dope albums out that I've been listening to non stop.
1) Camron - Purple Haze
2) Nas - Streets Disciple
3) T.I. - Urban Legend
4) Diplomats - Diplo Immunity #2
5) Eminem - Encore
6) Akon - Trouble
Top Songs at the moment
Game Feat. 50 - This is How We Do
Akon - Ghetto
Nas - Live Now, Suicide Bounce, UBR, Virgo
Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers, Mockingbird
Diplomats - S.A.N.T.A.N.A
Ludacris - Get Back, The Potion
T.I. - Bring Em Out
Tupac - Thugs Get Lonely Too
Impartial on the new 50 song "Disco Inferno", I know its a club banger, and thats what makes your new album sell but I hope he comes with some stronger stuff to follow.
Feel free to talk about anything including some of your favourite albums etc, anything you heard recently etc. Just curious to see if anyone else has the same taste in music as me. |
| 1 | Tree
ID: 510231619
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 20:48
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nice call on the Diplomats. i work for the company that put that out...we can't keep it in stock!
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| 2 | Mikel
ID: 22109209
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 21:06
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When ever I need so "Ill Jams" I look to my main man Twarpy.
To give my .02 on the beats he mention I have to say that I agree that Tupac's Thugs Get Lonely Too, Eminem's Toy Soliders and Mocking Bird are hot. I also want to had Cam's Leave Me Alone Pt. 2. (I've been wearing out the needle on my record player with that joint)
I supose I'll give my thoughts on Eminem's new album seeing he the most recognized artist in the game. First of all I'd like to say I think "Encore" is disapointing. I think that It is lacking that one Huge single that makes and album blow up granted It does have a lot of bangin' tracks...Toy Soldiers, Mockingbird, Encore, Spend Some Time, Evil Deeds, Mosh. I especially enjoy Yellow Brick Road, Em's story telling rhymes throw me back to his first album.
The stuff I've heard from Cam's up coming album sounds good and I must admit im quite interested in hearing what else is on there.
Lastly, 50's disco inferno, I just heard the song for the first time, it has no depth and as Twarp said 50 needs some stronger stuff.
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| 3 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 21:12
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Tree you work for Koch? Good old indy labels, I heard they did around 50k first week, which is great for Dipset as they get about $6 off each album (The equivalent of gettig the same money as going gold on a big label)
With MTV playing SANTANA as the jam of the week, and with Cams album just about to drop you guys should see a lot more sales coming these next couple of weeks.
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| 4 | ukula
ID: 259101021
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 22:38
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All rap music is the same. Let's see, take a black guy that is angry at the world, hand him a microphone and let him chant into it at very close range so that you can't understand a word he is saying, throw an NBA jersey on him, a couple of chains around his neck, and a baseball cap that is either cockeyed and backwards. Voila! Instant Rap Star!!
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| 5 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 03:33
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Yeah Ukula, well the top selling "rap" artist right now is White, so that fails your first stereotype.
Many of them are not angry at the world infact they poke fun at the world, and mostly have fun at what they were given in life. Which is more than I can say about yourself.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you need to attack it.
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| 6 | ukula
ID: 259101021
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 06:47
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I'm not attacking, just making an observation. Can you honestly understand one word they are saying without looking at the lyric sheet?
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| 7 | Tree
ID: 510231619
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 07:00
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Twarpy - i do indeed work for Koch. I think our urban A&R side has done a fantastic job of signing guys who seem to fly under the major label radar...we've had our share of real tank jobs too, but for the most part, particularly with the Dirty South, we've hit some relative home runs.
as for Ukula - his posting history is pretty much littered with some fairly racially insensitive stuff, so i'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
anyway, the above two paragraphs kinda point to the fact that some people oughta broaden horizons.
in just about every genre of song, from metal and punk to classic rock to hip hop to jazz, there are plenty of lyrics you can't understand without a lyric sheet - heck, Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" and "D'yer Maker" are just two examples...
as for rap in general, saying it's all the same is an ignorant observation. i'm not a huge fan of the genre, although there's a lot of relative underground stuff i can get into (Twarpy - my hip hop tastes run more toward the likes of Atmosphere or Eyedea & Abilities...), but even i can tell the difference.
to the uninitiated or uninformed - throw on some Dirty South, some Miami sound, some West Coast, some East coast, and some Rhymesayers group, and you'll see five completely different styles of music.
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| 8 | gamersfuel
ID: 44952817
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 08:42
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Hey Tree. Whats the deal with No Limit and Koch? Any new albums? Or is Master P done. Any info?
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| 9 | ukula
ID: 1112129
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 10:21
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There goes Tree again using the "Race Card".
True, there are rock songs where you can't understand what they are saying but for the most part I can understand 90% of the lyrics from Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Tom Petty, and most of the current stuff they play on the radio. Rap, on the other hand, you're lucky you can make out 5% of the lyrics. Tree, since you're in the business can you do me a favor and tell these rap singers to put the microphone about 4-6 from their mouth instead of IN their mouth. It would be much easier to understand them and they will do a better job of getting their hate-filled message across. Thanks!
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| 10 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 14:20
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gamers - Whats the deal with No Limit and Koch?
as far as i know it's still a solid deal. i mean heck, the Master P dropped in March, and the Lil' Romeo and Silkk hit in September.
do they get to breathe? ;o)
i think there's another P record set for next spring, but no confirmation.
Ukula - There goes Tree again using the "Race Card".
True, there are rock songs where you can't understand what they are saying but for the most part I can understand 90% of the lyrics from Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Tom Petty, and most of the current stuff they play on the radio. Rap, on the other hand, you're lucky you can make out 5% of the lyrics. Tree, since you're in the business can you do me a favor and tell these rap singers to put the microphone about 4-6 from their mouth instead of IN their mouth. It would be much easier to understand them and they will do a better job of getting their hate-filled message across. Thanks!
i play the race card when it's appropriate. your comments on race are usually offensive, sometimes racist, and often at the very least inappropriate.
listen to some rap before judging it. the vast majority of rap has nothing to do with hate. a lot of it is about politics or love or partying.
hmmm..kinda like rock and roll.
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| 11 | kev
ID: 3155515
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 14:41
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It's interesting- from every person I have talked to who likes Em, their fave songs on the new album are Toy Soldiers and Mockingbird
The new Nas album is real good. I have enjoyed it. Gotta like all the Kobe hate he slangs out there. Still probably the best lyricist in the game.
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| 12 | Filthy Rich
ID: 31854154
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 14:52
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If you are willing and have even the slightest bit of attention span, you can make out 90% of rap lyrics too ukula.
Good thread idea. I like what I've heard of akon, and might have to check out Cam's cd.
Some albums I'm feelin' lately are:
Eminem- Encore...his raps and flow are just crazy and makeup for the lack of emotion that made Eminem Show so great.
Talib Kweli- Beautiful Struggle...probably best album I've heard this year, no skits or filler. Amazingly deep lyrics, and good production.
Nelly- Suit...pretty much opposite end of spectrum lyrically from Kweli but still a fun, smooth album that is an enjoyable listen.
Houston- It's already written...I was expecting a Chingy type cd and was doubtful, but it is actual a very smooth RNB cd, good to just chill out to.
Also some singles I'm likin':
kanye/common- ride
snoop/jt- signs
mos def- sunshine
masta ace- beautiful
ludacris- child of the night, hopeless, get back
liljon/ursh/luda- lovers and friends...didnt like at first, starting to grow on me
kos- man i used to be
guerilla black- youre the one
fabolous- breathe, in my hood
twista- sunshine
akon/2pac/big- ghetto remix
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| 13 | Danny Boy
ID: 14950199
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 15:34
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Tree- Atmosphere is one of my favorite groups out there, bar none. God Loves Ugly is probably one of my favorite albums of the last four years. Since you're down with Rhymesayers, you've probably listened to Brother Ali. His album Shadow of the Sun is absolutely incredible, with Ant on the beats.
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| 14 | Danny Boy
ID: 14950199
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 15:48
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BTW Tree, what do you do for good ol' Koch and how did you manage to land your position? Speaking as a recent college graduate stuck in a boring, dead end job, I'm curious to hear how you got your foot in the door in the music industry.
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| 15 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 15:52
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Tree - Atmosphere is really good group, they sorta remind me of an Outkast type of original music.
Filthy - In response to your album reviews, the more and more I listen to Encore I like it, there are some songs like Puke that shouldve been left off the album, but overall its not bad.
Beautiful Struggle - I actually had this album via pre-released advance about 8 months ago, and I have mixed reviews of it, when you compare it to a lot of the other stuff out there its a good album, just not Talibs best any stretch.
Nelly and Houston - Not really a fan of the more "Pop Hop" genre of music, unless its at a club...then some of Nelly's songs are really easy to pull a girl aside too.
Your singles list is very similar to what I listen to, glad to see masta ace on there, "beautiful" is one of those songs you just can sit back and admire.
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| 16 | blue hen
ID: 372102211
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 16:10
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Actually, I think there are some very redeeming qualities to rap music. But even more than that, I like when rap and rock collide, like Blackstreet and Slash performing Fix or Puffy's rock remix of All About the Benjamins (with Rob Zombie and Foo Fighters).
Just don't listen to the Judgement Night soundtrack.
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| 17 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 16:17
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Heres a link to the new video This is How We Do by Game and 50.
Personally I think Game is going to be the next cat to blowup, its going to be hard to stop G-Unit, and what looks like a 4th artist going platinum.
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| 18 | Danny Boy
ID: 14950199
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 16:35
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Don't forget Tony Yayo, Twarpy. He is gonna blow big time. Although if he goes the Lloyd Banks route and starts doing half his songs about how fly he is and how many women he's got, I'm gonna throw up in my mouth. Your name is Tony Yayo! Talk about that gangsta stuff!
Oh yeah, and I agree, Game is gonna be huge. I actually like "Higher" better than "How We Do," and some of his mixtape joints, like "State Your Name Gangsta" with Lil' Flip and Cassidy, have been ridiculous.
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| 19 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Dec 02, 2004, 17:25
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Game. another Koch artist...sort of...
so, me and koch...well, for starters, i work for the distribution side, as opposed to the label. it's more fun. i get to deal with, and hear, so much more music...
up until about 3 months ago, i was a Sales Rep. i know, sounds kinda lame, but i was really entrenched in the music. got to check out EVERYTHING, since because i had to sell it, i had to know it...
and i dealt with Indie stores everywhere, from california to maine. if there's a mom-and-pop record store in your town, especially if the store is medium to large, there's a reasonable chance i know the owner or the buyer. If you've seen or read Nick Hornby's High Fidelity, i talking to stores like Championship Vinyl every day.
it kicked ass.
Three months ago i was offered a position in our Video division. it was just too good of an offer for me to turn down, and while i hated leaving the music behind, i still have access to all the new releases, and now probably enjoy them even more because i listen because i WANT to, not have to.
so now i'm on the Video side, which is a whole new world, and VERY cool.
how did i end up at Koch? a combination of blind luck, good timing, bad timing, being a great interview, and having a ton of music retail experience behind me.
i interview very well. i do my research on a company, and i think knowing who Koch was ahead of time was a huge asset to me. and the fact that i'd spend parts of 10 years working in record stores also helped.
the music biz is a bitch. it's a hard hard line of work, and while i've been lucky (knock on wood), turnover rate is high. i know people who have been in this business 20+ years, and they usually end up working with the same people over that time at two or three different companies.
probably 85 percent of the jobs are in LA or NYC. if you're serious, you gotta move to one of those locales. read the NY or LA Times on sunday for help wanted ads. (i saw the ad for mine in the NY Times.) either subscribe to Billboard and check the help wanted every week, or go every week to barnes and noble and read it because it's damn expensive to subscribe and/or buy.
and just pray. :o)
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| 20 | kev
ID: 3155515
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 01:34
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I don't know if you guys have even heard of this guy, but north of the border, K-Os (pronounced Chaos) is a pretty good rapper. I don't really like much of what comes out of Canada on the rap front, but K-Os is a real talent. I saw him perform twice in Calgary, and will go every time he comes back.
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| 21 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 02:49
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Kev i'm from Canada, and although K-os doesn't fit the genre I usually listen to he has some innovative stuff.
Besides Kardinal (my favourite Canadian rapper), and Choclair there aren't a whole lot of Canadian artists I would listen to.
While I'm on Kardinal anyone who's a fan or who isn't should check out a song called "Kill Bloodclott Bill (Bang Bang)". Its a great track which samples the theme song of Kill Bill.
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| 22 | kev
ID: 3155515
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 16:04
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Those are basically the only 3 canuck artists I will even get near my player...
What old CD's still make it into your players? Is there anything, to this day, you listen to weekly/monthly that is more than 5 years old?
I tend to listen to a lot of Pac still- I will throw in All Eyez on Me when Im just chilling around, doing stuff around the house. Nothing makes the time go faster than hearing that Sax come in on Can't C Me....probably the best song I have ever heard. A lot of people don't feel that song, but I love it.
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| 23 | Mikel
ID: 22109209
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 16:43
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Pac, BIG, and Beastie Boys I still like to throw down.
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| 24 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 30815418
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 17:03
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Fugees - The Score
best rap album ever.
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| 25 | Mark L
ID: 131023306
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 20:56
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Tree 19 - how about Atomic Records in Milwaukee?
Koch reissued Lucinda Williams' self-titled disc, which in my opinion qualifies it for the hall of fame if it had never released anything else.
Great thread btw - it's educating me about music that I know little about outside of the best known artists. Always room for some more new discs.
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| 26 | threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 21:13
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ghostface
theodore unit
all i've been listening to for a while now
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| 27 | threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Fri, Dec 03, 2004, 21:35
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twarpy, u based near toronto?
i remember the university days, the days of the "mastermind streetjam" at midnight
talk about hot
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| 28 | Tree
ID: 510231619
Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 10:58
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Mark - i didn't deal with Atomic directly. they weren't one of my accounts, but i did talk to them once in a blue moon when their regular rep was on vacation.
that Lucinda disc is so classic, and in this day and age of A&R trying to find the next big thing, that was a grand slam, as it came cheap and has probably sold close to 200,000 copies since being reissued.
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| 29 | Twarpy
ID: 549523018
Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 18:31
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New York Times rates Cam's "Purple Haze" as one of the hip hop albums of the year.
The Reesey-Piecey Man Cometh (and Rhymeith)
By KELEFA SANNEH
n 1998, years before it became obvious that he was one of hip-hop's most appealing surrealists, Cam'ron was just another aspiring star, content to hold down the world's most glamorous job: New York rapper.
He announced himself by telling everyone how to recognize him: "You might see Cam in designer underwear." That was the first line of his breakthrough hit, "Horse and Carriage," which had a singsong refrain by Ma$e, the rapper whose infamous shiny suit epitomized a time when hip-hop seemed like a form of wish fulfillment.
The process was simple: a couple of hit records, a couple of memorable videos, and suddenly you were richer than God and nearly as omnipresent. It was a time when even the most extravagant hip-hop boasts could pass for predictions: O.K., maybe you didn't actually own an island, but you were so close.
This gilded age didn't deliver on its promises. New York rappers discovered that music-industry success was nearly as demeaning as failure: it's hard to look cool when you're working overtime to satisfy radio stations and club D.J.'s, and it's hard to maintain your king-of-the-world image when you're being outsold by boy bands.
Ma$e retired to become a preacher (he "ran to Atlanta," as Cam'ron bitterly put it), cutting short his career before his second album had a chance to do it for him. And although Jay-Z stayed on top, many other New York rappers had to find ways to brag about a lifestyle that no longer seemed quite so glamorous.
That era's end was exactly what Cam'ron needed. When his first two albums failed to propel him into the stratosphere (they barely propelled him into the, um, sphere), he signed with Jay-Z's label, Roc-a-Fella, and started consolidating his crew, the Diplomats. Over the last few years, Cam'ron's rhymes have grown stronger and stranger.
Like some fearsome dictator gone off the deep end, he issues one outlandish pronouncement after another, never pausing to acknowledge that there might be some gap between word and fact, sometimes not even pausing to make sense of his own scrambled syllables. This is a terrible way to run a country, of course, but it's a great way to rap. For Cam'ron, even more than for most rappers, saying is believing.
You could see this strategy in action at the Apollo Theater in Harlem on Tuesday night, when the crew gathered to celebrate two new releases: the entertaining new Diplomats compilation, "Diplomatic Immunity 2" (Koch), and Cam'ron's marvelous new CD, "Purple Haze" (Roc-a-Fella/Island Def Jam), one of the year's best hip-hop albums. For more than an hour, Cam'ron delivered mesmerizing, sometimes nonsensical rhymes: "Bucket by OshKosh B'Gosh/Golly, I'm gully, look at his galoshes/Gucci, gold-, platinum-plaque collages." And he often took gangster mythology well past its logical conclusions. "All y'all think it's peace and peachy/I'll leave you Reesey-Piecey," he snarled, turning a bag of candy into a Dada threat.
That last rhyme comes from a track on "Come Home With Me" (Roc-a-Fella/Island Def Jam), Cam'ron's swaggering 2002 album; according to Nielsen SoundScan, it has sold over a million copies, more than his first two combined. Since then the Diplomats have flooded the streets with an addictive series of official mixtapes (you can find them online at www.dipsetmixtapes.com), which seemed designed less to win new followers than to winnow out casual listeners.
Obsessive fans could follow the Diplomats into a half-imaginary world, gaping at the cover of "Back Like Cooked Crack" (it shows Juelz Santana, a young Diplomat, standing at a stove, tending to a pot, a jar, a pile and a lump), and wondering whether J. R. Writer, another Diplomat, would ever top his lung-busting "6 Minute Freestyle."
"Diplomatic Immunity 2" is just one more mixtape, although, like its predecessor, the double-disc "Diplomatic Immunity," it's available for sale in mainstream record shops. Like the others, it probably won't win Cam'ron any new fans, but it does have a fistful of great tracks, none better than "S.A.N.T.A.N.A.," the latest outburst from Santana, the mischievous rapper whose wild-eyed stage presence contains more than a hint of Christopher Walken.
Santana nearly stole Tuesday's show with a chaotic rendition of "S.A.N.T.A.N.A.," abetted by his preschool-age nephew, who sang the hook. While a drum machine sputtered behind him, Santana shouted out his stream-of-consciousness pronouncements: "I ain't here to wine ya/I ain't here to dine ya/I came here to pop ya/And I came here for lobster/The whole damn shebang, and I ain't bring the pasta."
When the nephew's work was done, he toddled offstage, but not before receiving his pay: a few brick-sized stacks of bills, straight from Cam'ron's pocket.
Part of what's exciting and confounding about the Diplomats is that they're so deadpan. The members don't stop to assure you that they're actually nice people, and they don't spend time analyzing their own whimsical rhyme schemes and asymmetric rhythms.
Cam'ron has perfected his persona as a don so powerful that no one dares question his quirks. If he wants to dress in all pink (as he did for about a year) or brag about shopping at "Neimies and Bloomies," who's going to second-guess him?
"Purple Haze" is due out on Tuesday, and it's a left-field masterpiece, showing off all the things he does so well and so weirdly. On his last album, Cam'ron spent most of his time explaining his favorite pastimes (putting drugs on the street, putting women on their backs, putting enemies in their place), but he occasionally switched directions for a startling love song or an even more startling avowal: near the end, he declared, "Now I realize, Christ the king." The new album is more abstract, with spikier beats and more fractured narratives; there's less room for regret but more for experimentation.
For newcomers, the longtime mixtape favorites will be a revelation. "Killa Cam" pairs Cam'ron's sinuous wordplay with a similarly sinuous, muezzinlike cry by a singer who calls himself Opera Steve. And "Get 'Em Girls" uses a bombastic beat (someone's been listening to "Carmina Burana") to propel a mesmerizing cascade of phrases beginning with the unforgettable claim, "I get the boosters boosting/I get computer 'puting."
It's always fun to hear Cam'ron bully a beat, slowly spitting out an endless series of petulant phrases, as if he were expecting the rhythm to adjust to his unpredictable cadence. And when it comes time for a pop song, he turns on the gruff charm: "Down and Out," with a hard-hitting Kanye West track, finds Cam'ron reeling off gruesome sex rhymes, then changing directions to bark one of the year's best pick-up lines: "You got pets? Me too: mines are dead." He elaborates, "Fox, minks, gators, that's necessary/Accessories/My closet's pet cemetery."
By the end of Tuesday's show, Cam'ron had changed from a black sweater to a bright yellow one; the whole audience had joined him in flashing the Diplomats hand sign; his protégés had run riot; and the crew had barged through nearly two dozen tracks. So long as you were in the building, it was possible to believe that Cam'ron had taken over the world the way he was supposed to back in the 1990's. But once you walked out into the Harlem night, it became clear that he had invented his own world instead.
New York Times Link
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| 30 | Twarpy
ID: 549523018
Sat, Dec 04, 2004, 18:53
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threespleens I lived in Toronto until the past 2.5 years, where I'm now going to university just outside of Toronto (Trent U), so I still go back often.
The clubs in Toronto are just amazing in my opinion, with such a multicutural city you've got a little bit of everything, and the girls aren't that bad either. Right now it's all about dancehall/hip hop clubs for me.
What school were you at 3spleens?
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| 31 | threespleens
ID: 471148412
Sun, Dec 05, 2004, 00:11
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i went to brock u in st.catharines a few years back... not exactly a hiphop center, most of the clubs were top-40 stuff for saturday nights and ladies nights
always tried to get to toronto for a ball game or whatever on the weekends
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| 32 | Filthy Rich
ID: 31854154
Mon, Dec 06, 2004, 18:26
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I heard Camron's CD this weekend, just playing while doing homework so didn't really listen to the lyrics, but from the beats and choruses, I'd say about half the CD sounded pretty stellar with a couple weak songs and really annoying skits mixed in. All in all, sounds like a good CD that I wouldn't have normally even given a listen. Good catch Twarpy.
Another CD I heard this weekend is the new Xzibit. Its good but nothing really special, but a nice listen if you're into the West Coast sound. Judgment Day and Back 2 The Way It Was are the standout tracks and definitely worth hearing.
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| 33 | mMoses
ID: 51115143
Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 08:17
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Underground MC/DJ here... Here's some albums that I've been bumping lately while working on my next mixtape:
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
Jehst - Return of the Drifter
Jean Grae - Jeanius
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Foreign Exchange - Connected
Cam'ron - Purple Haze
DJ Lewis Slipperz - £10 Bag Volume 1 & 2
Handsome Boy Modelling School - White People
Mos Def - The New Danger
Rohff - La Fierte Des Notres
Supastition - The Deadline
Sabac - Sabacolypse
Talib Kweli - Beautiful Mixtape 1 & 2
The Diplomats - Diplomatic Immunity 2
Tech N9ne - Absolute Power
Classified - Trial and Error
MF Doom - MM Food
and plenty of others...
Ukula: I pondered writing a huge response to how much I disagree with you, but decided that you're already a lost cause.
Twarpy: I'm lovin' on the Kill Bloodclot Bill track. Trying to get clearance to throw it on my next mixtape, although I'll put it on there either way *cough*.
Blue Hen: I remember really liking the Judgement Night soundtrack, about 10 years ago? I think I'll have to find it again and check it out. I remember some good Cypress Hill collabs and such on there...
Filthy Rich: I just can't dig Guerilla Black... The guy is such a gimmick that it's insane. He's trying so absolutely hard to be what he's not, without doing a good job of hiding it. He's not from Comptom for one; another huge thing is that on a previous album, under another name, he sounded nothing like BIG... Now, you could put a Guerilla Black track back to back with a BIG track, and a non hiphophead might not be able to tell the difference. Aaaah, whatever works, I suppose.
Mainstream tracks: I can't really dig Eminem, Nelly, Ludacris, Chingy and some others... But Talib, Fabolous, Nas, and a few others definitely get my ear on occasion.
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| 34 | Danny Boy
ID: 14950199
Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 09:18
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mMoses-- Any chance of getting ahold of your new mixtape when it drops? Sounds like it could be a banger.
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| 35 | mMoses
ID: 51115143
Fri, Dec 24, 2004, 03:54
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Danny Boy:
For sure! I am hoping to release 3 simultaneously in mid-late-end January, at the same time as opening an online hiphop radio station and an online mixtape store. I can hook you up with the mixtapes that I am making. If you'd be willing to pick up the shipping costs (probably minimal) that'd be great, but if not that's fine too. I'll send you some of the promotional/free ones. E-mail me about it or get ahold of me on msn/yahoo/icq:
mmoses@telus.net (e-mail and msn)
supamang (yahoo)
92919964 (icq)
If you are a hiphophead and enjoy similar music, it'd be nice to chat. If that's not your thing, tho, just e-mail me.
hasta,
mMoses
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| 36 | Twarpy
ID: 120331014
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 17:00
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Just head Game's new album, "The Documentary" and I must say woah.
Couple tracks that are gonna be instant classics are the self titled song "The Documentary" and "Dreams".
As well as a single that I found that wasn't on the album called "Envy Me" with 50, all tracks definately worth checking out.
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| 37 | Danny Boy
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Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 13:51
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Twarpy- "Envy Me" isn't on the album? That's bizarre, because it has been BLOWING UP all over NY radio for the past week or so. I first heard it on Green Lantern's show, I think it was last Tuesday night (coulda been the week before), and since then, it's been everywhere, any DJ that is anybody has been banging the hell out of it. It's a real dope song.
BTW, where did you hear the new album? Has it made its way online through early leaks yet, cuz I haven't checked. I can't wait to hear this album, I think it's gonna be huge.
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| 38 | mMoses
ID: 51115143
Wed, Jan 12, 2005, 04:24
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Envy Me -is- on the album, it just has a different name than it was given on mixtapes. The song's actual name is "Hate it or Love it"... I don't mind the album, but I don't think it'll hit my player very often. Not because it's not good... It is good. But I'll hear it enough on the radio, on TV, and in the clubs. On my own time, I'll stick to tracks that I can fit on a mixtape with a clean conscience. ^^;
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| 39 | threespleens
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ID: 00795541
Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 05:03
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the game album is sweet
i also found skillz "99 freethrows" on the net the other day
it's with jay-z's "99 problems" beats and all about shaq's difficulties at the line
don't know how old this track is, but it was on a best-of-the-year list i read
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| 40 | mMoses
ID: 51115143
Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 06:18
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threespleens:
I remember hearing it a few months ago. Shaq had dissed Skillz on a mixtape track/freestyle, and I believe Skillz came back with nearly a full album of disses for peoples. Was pretty nice, if I remember right.
mMoses
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| 41 | threespleens
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ID: 00795541
Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 08:51
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mMoses, i downloaded shaq's disses as well and they were garbage
i thought skillz (madskillz) had disappeared until i heard this new track... way back in i remember he had a few nice tracks ("headnoddin" comes to mind)
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