Posted by: Toral
- [575542418] Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 20:04
I've never watched the first episode where Simon disses people before, but I am watching now. I'll check on the Michigan primary later....
I thot I might as well start the first thread.
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sat, May 03, 2008, 03:07
Daughtry signed with 19 Recordings/RCA Records, which I want to say is the same one the idol winner has to sign with. If you put out a hot album, people are going to buy it.
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Tree
ID: 241138 Sat, May 03, 2008, 10:16
yea - 19 Entertainment is indeed owned by Simon Fuller, the producer of American Idol.
two interesting facts about 19 that may or may not be well known.
1. the management division of the company used to manage the Spice Girls.
2. the name of the company comes from the paul hardcastle song of the same name, which was a huuuuuuge hit in the 80s. Fuller was managing hardcastle at the time.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, May 03, 2008, 16:52
For as bad as my predicting has been each week, I had only Johns instead of Mercado wrong in the top 4.
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JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Wed, May 07, 2008, 09:12
There were 4 great performances last night from the final 4 on the Rock and Roll HOF week. Of course, two of those great performances were from Archuletta. I was starting to think David Cook was going to be the front runner, but David Archuletta far and away looked like he is destined to win this thing based on last night IMO. Both Davids will do well post Idol. I did enjoy Cook's "Baba O'Reiley" Who cover but thought the performance of the night was Syesha with Sam Cooke's "A Change". I hope both Cook and Sye can survive to the final 3 with Archie.
Jason may have a good following, but he would not have made it to Hollywood if either of those two efforts last night were his initial audition. Castro's song choices were horrible. He did decent enough to survive a few weeks ago with Neil Diamond's "Blue Jeans". If he could have done similarly with an Elton John song or something less indulgent than Marley, then I'd be less annoyed if he advances tonight. (There have been alot of final 4 elimination surprises in past seasons). Now if he is carried through because of his base I'll be angry.
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Tree
ID: 3533298 Wed, May 07, 2008, 09:16
i agree. if Castro goes on, there really isn't any justice. based strictly on performance last night, he needs to go home.
i fear, however, that Sayesha - the best pure singer left - will be voted off.
that being said, i have little doubt that both her, and Archuletta, have long careers ahead of them.
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weykool
ID: 2842717 Wed, May 07, 2008, 18:43
i fear, however, that Sayesha - the best pure singer left -
Stop the world I wanna get off. Tree and I agreeing on music or politics? The sudden implosion of the planet cannot be far behind.
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Texas Flood
ID: 244167 Wed, May 07, 2008, 20:02
Mabye its just me but I really didn't like any of em last night. Best song choice of the night was Archuleta. "Stand By Me" should have been "Vote for Me". I just can't get past his hobbit image.
Cook, of all the great Who songs he picks "Baba O'Rriley. He could have done "We Won't Get Fooled Again" and when finished smashed his Les Paul over Castro's head or better yet Paula's. Her head is empty and the echo effect would have been astounding.
Syesha, Proud Mary are there not better songs by Tina Turner than this polish wedding favorite? All that was missing was the three meat buffet and the plastic flowers on the table.
Castro, actually picked two of my all time favorites and absolutely blew them up. That may have been the worst all time crapfest from a top four performer ever!
Bye Jason you gave us some of the best and worst moments of the season.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, May 10, 2008, 02:30
Great post TF. Esp. agree with the Castro comment.
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, May 12, 2008, 14:03
Looking for ideas on scoring changes for next years contest. I have one idea I'd lke to implement. For each different contestant selected as "best" for the week, you will get a bonus of 5 points. You can pick the same person each week, but the person who picks many different idols as their best of the week is going to get more points.
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weykool
ID: 2842717 Mon, May 12, 2008, 16:57
TB:
I posted a suggestion about the bottom 3 in post #64 of the contest thread. If your pick is bottom 3 you get points based on how many people picked that contestant. The fewer people who had that person the more points you would get.
It could be a pure bonus points system where there is not a penalty for wrong picks of -1 for wrong picks. I believe it was bottom 2 once they were down to 6 left.
Thanks for doing this it has added to the enjoyment to this season.
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Skidazl Leader
ID: 379312323 Mon, May 12, 2008, 17:18
what about getting docked points if your safe picks were not actually "safe"(bottom3,2) on the show?
Thanks for doing this it has added to the enjoyment to this season.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you TB...
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, May 14, 2008, 02:22
It's fun for me to track, and fairly easy, but the most enjoyment I get is the chat in this thread.
I thought Syesha was the best tonight, but the producers must want the Davids in the finals because the judges were not very nice to her. Simon tells David A he did enough to make the finals and then he tells Cook he won the night. Paula made a comment about how Syesha should be proud for making it to third. The bash her about song choice on two songs she didn't get to pick along with her own selection of Fever. Syesha can come to my house and sing Fever anytime she wants. She can even pick what chair she wants me to sit in.
I'm going to guess that Cook wins it all.
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Weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Wed, May 14, 2008, 07:13
I agree TB.
Syesha was by far the best. She also has one of the names where she could be known by just her first name like Madonna or Shakira. This may be yet another season where the real winner is the one who doesnt win and isnt under the control of the AI machine.
I cant believe how bad David Cook is. He will be right there with Taylor Hicks for worst idol ever.
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Tree
ID: 3533298 Wed, May 14, 2008, 08:58
i also agree with you guys.
as i watched Sayesha perform, i was thinking...oh man, if tonight was the finals, Archuletta would have his hands full.
and then the judges give the night to Cook...wtf??
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Texas Flood
ID: 21430148 Wed, May 14, 2008, 09:52
I thought all three were pretty solid last night. Syesha's first song was great! The last two were decent with "Fever" being much better than the penguin song!
Archuleta, same time, same show, the same every week, and the same little hobbit since week #1. I've seen enough bring out the hook!
David Cook singing the great Roberta Flack song and he pulls it off! Amazing. Song #2 was a horrible choice. It was like he was trying to play stump the audience and be ultra cool by choosing something less mainstream. Number three was fine but he was not in the zone.
I guess at this point we can make a case for everyone either going or staying.
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Bond, James Bond Sustainer
ID: 04352469 Thu, May 15, 2008, 00:11
Congrats on those of you who have wanted a David v. David finale.
I can't say that this has been that great a year but I have no problem with these two guys battling it out at the end.
Uh, Fantasia....Simon just called and he has just one thing to say: "What in the bloody hell was that?" LOL
After her, ahem, performance, look for the AI3 winner to NEVER grace us with her presence ever again! LOL If she was the one who competed with that mess last night, SHE'D be the one booted, not Syesha. ;)
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Weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Thu, May 15, 2008, 01:18
Fantasia....That was a complete and utter mess.
Can this be the last year that the producers pick the song?
Produers: We would like you to sing ___________. Judges: Very poor song choice, I would pack your bags.
If the judges are going to pick a song they should all get together and have a say in each song picked. If they cant all agree on songs then the contestants get to pick.
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weykool
ID: 2842717 Thu, May 15, 2008, 10:43
Late breaking news:
It looks like there was some sort of voting glitch and the phone lines from season 3 were left open.
The latest vote tally has Fantasia finishing a distant 3rd to: "The other contestant" and "Anyone but F-ing Fantasia".
I will keep you posted as to who is eventually declared the official winner.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, May 15, 2008, 12:54
Syesha wouldn't even have made it to the top 24 had AI not changed the show to give them another chance in Hollywood week at tryouts. Then she somehow did incredible with what voice she had left. She stunk for a long time, but gotta hand it to her was pretty good lately. As good as the top 24 was in compared to previous years, I just don't "love" the top few. Still I picked the Davids to be there from the beginning and felt they should be there after this week's songs.
Seems to me Syesha was thinking that she could do a McPhee and see if being sexy could get her into the finals. I don't think Fever was as bad as the judges said, but I do agree that's not the song you want to pick to get you to the finals. i.e Fantasia's 'Summertime" and McPhees "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." As Simon puts it, memorable performances.
Of the two guys left, Cook has had a couple memorable performances. Archuleta has been solid, but Castro had a couple of songs that will live on--even though he stunk it up some other weeks and is so damn goofy that he shouldn't be the Idol just for that.
We all have character flaws. I mean Hicks was kinda out there too, but Syesha thinks she is better than what she is. She just doens't have the voice of a Whiteny or Celine (who does though?). Still I liked her ALicia Keys and several other songs a lot. Archuleta...ugh..I hope he grows out of it. I think he will--but who knows. Cook seems like he's Too Cool For School.
I think the best voice is Archuleta. I think the best pop star is Cook. Archuleta's verison of Chris Brown was a disaster as was his attempt at Stevie Wonder. Cook has only had one disaster song. I think they both will put out an album--just don't know how successful they will be in the long run. Short run will sell records based on the popularity of the show. I really think the winner comes down to performance next week--though Arculeta probably has a little better fan base. JMO.
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Bond, James Bond Sustainer
ID: 04352469 Thu, May 15, 2008, 12:54
LOL!!!!
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Texas Flood
ID: 8442159 Thu, May 15, 2008, 20:39
I just don't see the star power in Archuleta, he's cute, cuddly, and looks like a little chimp, hand puppet or gnome! I think he plays to the middle school and jr high crowd but beyond that I think he stalls.
I like Cook but he is a little Hootie and the Blowfish for me. He's hardly a great front for a real rock band, and he's far from being a guitar virtuoso but he is pretty entertaining and has some potential for decent career.
I just prefer his style compared to Archuleta and in all honesty I don't see either of these guys being huge long term successes.
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Tree
ID: 3481520 Thu, May 15, 2008, 21:09
I just don't see the star power in Archuleta, he's cute, cuddly, and looks like a little chimp, hand puppet or gnome! I think he plays to the middle school and jr high crowd but beyond that I think he stalls.
that's EXACTLY why he does have star power. that is the target demographic for music sales.
i think Archuleta is going to have a long career.
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Weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Thu, May 15, 2008, 21:48
I agree with Ref that the top 24 was the strongest group in a long time. I think the top 12 was very strong as well. But Ref said it right, the winner will be one of the weakest we have had.
I think Syesha will do as well or better as any 3 place finisher with the exception of of Daughtry.
My prediction is Achuleta will do very well. I couldnt help but being reminded of teen stars my sisters swooned over like Donny Osmond or David Cassidy. Teen/Tiger Beat type magazines could have him on the cover for many years to come. While he doesnt appeal to me there are millions of teen girls who will be downloading anything that he puts out on I-Tunes. These girls will put the Fan back into Fan-atics. Will he be able to have a career after his "teen" years? That remains to be seen. The reason teen is in quotes is because a teen Idol's career can last well into their 30's.
I can see Cook having some early success but I really dont know that he will be able to sustain anything beyond a 2nd album.
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Texas Flood
ID: 8442159 Thu, May 15, 2008, 22:00
Yeah you guys could be right, only time will tell.
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weykool
ID: 2842717 Tue, May 20, 2008, 11:16
#327.
Did anyone see Simon on Leno last night? His exatct quote when asked about Fantasia's performance: "What in the bloody hell was that?"
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Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, May 20, 2008, 11:45
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Texas Flood
ID: 124212019 Tue, May 20, 2008, 20:22
Round one, Archuleta by a mile!
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Mike D
ID: 124271622 Tue, May 20, 2008, 23:44
ARCHULETA WINS IDOL!!!
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Weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Wed, May 21, 2008, 00:11
Nobody will vote for Archuleta becasue the phone lines are jammed.
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, May 21, 2008, 01:02
I enjoyed this seasons finale. I thought both contestants sang well and will be happy with either winning. I don't think Archuleta "won" the night. Really, I liked all of Cook's songs and thought the first two rounds were tied. I gave the third round to Cook for singing a third "new" song instead of doing a repeat song. What I really liked was that all three of his songs showed something different.
For the contest, I added something new for the final. If you already made your pick, go back in there and read up.
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, May 21, 2008, 02:09
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Tree
ID: 29426215 Wed, May 21, 2008, 06:33
Nobody will vote for Archuleta becasue the phone lines are jammed.
and that's exactly why Archuleta will win. his supporters ain't calling. they're texting.
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Texas Flood
ID: 124212019 Wed, May 21, 2008, 09:28
I concur with Mike D. Gnomes everywhere will be voting for Archie.
Guru, thanks for the you-tube link very funny stuff.
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JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Wed, May 21, 2008, 09:30
I thought both really brought their A game last night, I think Archuleta will win, but not at all be surprised if turns out to be Cook.
With two very different artists and very different fan bases, if the contest is as close as one might expect, I guess it comes down to who has the most 'power callers' and texters. I told my 9 year old daughter she could only stay up for 30 minutes after the show calling (for her fave - Archie), figure with busy signals she got about 20 calls through. I imagine many fans dialed and texted many more votes than that. I guess it is as fair as any other method that can be devised.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, May 21, 2008, 14:52
I was rooting for Cook, but Archie jsut blew him away last night. I think Archie SHOULD be the winner. But, my concern is that those who don't want Archie or really like COok will vote big bunches for Cook now. I am wondering if Cook won't end up winning it. I Think if the judges wouldn't have been talking so much doom for Cook than Archie would have won going away, but now I think it will be extremely close and Cook could even win. Cook is good, but Archie was better and deserving of the Idol.
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GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Wed, May 21, 2008, 15:48
Doesn't matter if Archie wins it or not. Figure inside of 4 years he'll be a clone of Britney Spears. His dad will ensure that. This 17 year old shows the anxieties of someone 2 or 3 times as old. And the pressure from his dad will ensure he doesn't do well. No matter how hard they try to keep the dad away, he will screw this up.
Just my $.02
And I also thought along the lines of TB that Cook won it hands down.
Archie redoing Imagine just once again showed how unsure of himself he is.
Cliff
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Tree
ID: 3533298 Wed, May 21, 2008, 17:02
Archie redoing Imagine just once again showed how unsure of himself he is.
come on now. re-doing one of the best performances in Idol history when it's the finale isn't a sign of being unsure. it's a sign of going to your money pitch when the game is on the line.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, May 21, 2008, 17:16
Yeah, I've reading about Archie's dad for weeks. Seems everyone dislikes him. Idol banned hin from backstage after right before the live show he told his son to add in "All these beautiful girls" at the end of one of his songs and cost the show big money in royalties.
Like I said before, I have no doubt in my mind that Archie was the best and won the show. I just have this werid feeling that it's going to be really close and Cook might have gotten the most votes.
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Tree
ID: 47422121 Wed, May 21, 2008, 22:03
wow.
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Bond, James Bond Sustainer
ID: 04352469 Thu, May 22, 2008, 00:02
Congrats to David Cook and his apparent legion of fans! But did he really beat Archuleta by 12 MILLION VOTES???? That's pretty darn impressive.
Seacrest said there was 97.5 million votes cast. That's insane. Why can't we make our political process work the same. ;)
Anything stand out in tonight's finale to anybody? Here's some of my preliminary thoughts:
Amanda Overmyer looks seriously like a fish out of water. How did we keep her in the top 12? LOL
Carrie Underwood!!! OMG! Best Idol Ever! She's got the whole package going for her right now.
Thought Cook jamming with ZZ Top was pretty cool. It looked awful natural to him.
Gladys Knight and the Pips....or was it the Pimps tonight??? LOL I laughed through that whole performance. Great stuff there. Jack Black was way too good.
Seacrest actually doing some tumbles with the dance crew? I can hear the producer screaming at his monitor..."WHAT IF HE BREAKS A NAIL? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THEN???"
I thought Michael Myers was hilarous.
Michael Johns actually sounded the best I've heard him sound all year.
Castro ended up 4th??? Really??? Egads!
Cook's winner's song: YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNN!
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TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Thu, May 22, 2008, 01:24
Carrie Underwood!!! OMG! Best Idol Ever! She's got the whole package going for her right now.
I support this statement.
I also really enjoyed the show even with all the "old" stars pimping their new albums and tours. Total flashbacks to my youth. Donna Summer still has some pipes. I'm not sure I mentioned this, but I don't care much for the album Jordin Sparks put out. Hopefully her next album has better songs. I enjoy her voice, but find it hard to imagine many fans can connect with songs they can't sing to.
Brooke sounded really nice with Nash, but I still find it hard to believe her and Castro made top 5. Wow on both of them having no rhythm as well. Same with Johns and Overmeyer. Seeing them trying to move around and dance with the group was harsh on the eyes. I did think everyone sounded great tonight, even (or especially) Castro doing Hallelujah. He had a lot of "bad" performances, in my opinion, but he also had one of the best this season with that song.
I'm surprised Jimmy Kimmel got invited back and will be shocked if we ever see him again on the show. I don't think he's as funny as he must think he is. More Sarah Silverman please.
What was up with Paula crying during George Michael's performance? I thought he was okay, but not enough to get teary-eyed over. I also thought Carrie did a better cover of the song during the Idol gives back episode.
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Tree
ID: 38432225 Thu, May 22, 2008, 06:38
Jason Castro performed well this season. he had two of the best performances in Idol history. of course, he also had THE two worst performances in Idol history as well, which shows me that while talented, he needs a lot of work before hitting the level of consistency befitting a superstar.
regarding the winner, i'm still surprised. that being said, David Cook to me won because he stayed the course and did what the winner should be doing on this show - being a spectacular singer, but also getting better and stronger each and every week out there.
David Arch is going to be a star for quite some time, and while he started off strong, his talent curved upward at a considerably slower pace than Cook's.
if you put the two in a line graph, Cook's line SHOOTS upward, while Arch's barely moves up from its original level.
Simon had it right - it didn't matter which one won, because, for the first time in awhile, both were worthy heirs to the crown.
congrats to David Cook on an amazing job done.
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Texas Flood
ID: 154452116 Thu, May 22, 2008, 08:16
Just a couple of thoughts on last nights show.
I was really surprised that Cook won and won big. I think many of us picked Archie to win from the beginning. Archie was predictable week after week while you were never quite sure what Cook was going to be up to. Cook really grew as a performer over the course of the season while Archie gave us the same thing time after time.
I don't care much for pop singers and country pop singers are way off my charts, but Carrie Underwood looked and sounded great last night!
Loved Cook/ZZ top gig, although both Top and Cook looked a little out of sorts. Different generations I guess?
Gladys Knight and the Pips, classic Jack Black and funny as hell.
Graham Nash and Brooke White, nice performance.
I still like Michael Johns and Carly, really nice duet!
George Michael, will forever be the guy in the early MTV videos singing with Wham! Some things are just better left to memories.
Simon apology to Cook was warranted and its nice that he made it. His comments on Tuesday were way to harsh and it sounded as if Simon was openly rooting for Archie!
To me Mike Myers is no longer funny.
Overall, great show last night and I'm really happy for Cook. He worked hard all season and I hope he has a great career. I'm looking forward to his first album.
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JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Thu, May 22, 2008, 09:57
I enjoyed the finale. It was good that they did not spend as much time on the audition rejects as they had on past seasons. The top 12 had some nice moments last night and Johns, Carley, Brooke, and even Jason were in very good form. I could have really done without the "Love Guru" bit and shameless promo, it started the show on a real low note. The Kimmel bit was unneeded and the "Pips" bit was funny but out of place on American Idols. There was something for everyone with the lineup of recording artists they brought in. From Gladys Knight and George Michael and ZZ Top from the 70s, 80s and 90s to The JoBros for the younger ones. Nice finale.
Cook is a worthy champion, and Archie probably is the best runner up to date (Guarini, Aiken, DeGarmo, Bice, McPhee, Lewis).
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, May 22, 2008, 17:42
The finale was ok, but no where close to as good as it was like 2-3 season ago with babyface and the like.
Really surprised Cook won by so much.
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Texas Flood
ID: 154452116 Fri, May 23, 2008, 10:31
I forgot about that jackass in the white suit singing that beyond stupid "brother" song! I wonder if idol donated to the USC music program for that performance?
Texas Flood
ID: 384392510 Sun, May 25, 2008, 20:18
Nice Vid TB, I missed the Idol Gives Back show this year. Nancy Wilson can hang with most of the front men of Rock. She was doing it pretty much back when it was all guys.
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Texas Flood
ID: 384392510 Sun, May 25, 2008, 20:21