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Subject: 24
Posted by: Farn
- Sustainer [451044109] Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 17:23
I have a feeling that a lot of other people are into this show like I am.
Ever since episode 1 of season 1 I have been addicted. I'm like an addict. I would say out of the 3 seasons they have had maybe 5 mediocre episodes.
Last night's 2 hour season premiere was amazing. 2hrs of non stop action. Tonight should be another 2 hours of the same thing.
Some things I want to address though:
1. Chloe has grown up. She is still a bit annoying but she has grown up to a point where I don't want to throw her out a window.
2. Thank god Kim is gone. Maybe we can survive a season without her getting kidnapped. Will Chase reappear to help Jack in the field?
3. Driscoll is an idiot. Jack takes one glance at the video and immediately helps get the criminal captured. But instead of realizing how valuable he is she pretends like he is a piece of trailer trash. I can't wait until she loses that job and he takes over. Hopefully thats within the first few episodes. Or maybe Almeida or his wife can take over.
4. Will this young girlfriend of the foreign boy be the one to lead them to the hideout? Or will the young boy himself do it?
5. I like the angle of kidnapping the secretary of defense. Definately a nice plot that makes sense. The trial of war crimes on the internet seems a bit out there but its not totally beyond belief. William Devane (sp) is a great actor for the part though.
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| 209 | Tosh
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ID: 057721710
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 12:47
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Return of Fox's '24' postponed by strike
NEW YORK - The writers strike has struck down the Fox thriller "24."
"24" is absent from the network's revised, strike-affected schedule for midseason. In its announcement, Fox explained the "Day 7" season for the series would be indefinitely postponed to ensure an uninterrupted run.
Like most series written by members of the Writers Guild of America, "24" is falling prey to a shortfall of scripts. But the heavily sequential, real-time "24" is dependent on a full-season run of 24 episodes.
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| 210 | Texas Flood
ID: 41322127
Mon, Apr 14, 2008, 17:01
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What happened? any updates?
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| 211 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Mon, Apr 14, 2008, 17:08
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from wikipedia
Season 7 will begin and end at 8:00 a.m. and will begin airing in the United States in January 2009, having been delayed by the writers' strike. The producers of the show have announced that there will be a 2-hour season 7 prequel bridging seasons 6 and 7, to air in the Fall of 2008.
the rest is plot outlines with potential spoilers
The initial back story will feature Jack Bauer on trial for his actions in the pursuit of justice. Meanwhile, a major national security incident occurs when the firewall responsible for protecting America's government computer infrastructure is breached. It will also feature the show's first female president, Allison Taylor, played by Cherry Jones and ex-main character Tony Almeida will be returning to the show despite his apparent death in season 5. This will be the first season to see Jack not working with CTU because it was disbanded by the U.S. government at some point after the events of Season 6
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| 212 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 08:20
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JANUARY OF TWO THOUSAND AND FREAKING NINE!!!
But I want my senseless violence and unrealistic action scenes NOW!!
God I miss this show. They could at least throw us a bone and make a five episode mini-series featuring Chloe and her attitude.
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| 213 | JeffG
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ID: 01584348
Mon, Jan 12, 2009, 14:22
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At long last, Season 7 finally underway. Decent opening in the 2-hour season premier last night. We'll hopefully see more action tonight and going forward now that the set-up and character intros are out of the way.
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| 214 | Texas Flood
ID: 100151217
Mon, Jan 12, 2009, 18:17
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I watched 24 Redemption on blue ray the other night and thought
it was fantastic. Last nights episode didn't disappoint and
bringing back Tony Almeda as a bad guy was pretty cool.
I like the cast and can't wait to see what Chloe's role is going to be
this season....possibly and Almeda henchwoman?
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| 215 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Jan 12, 2009, 19:56
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Two hours into the day and Jack's only shot one guy so far. Hopefully that will end tonight. I need an adrenaline boost.
www.bauercount.com/
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| 216 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 14:27
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Awesome first 4 hours. Last season the first 4 were great and then the season quickly tanked so hopefully they can keep things at a high level.
The new FBI agent is really hot.
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| 217 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 10:14
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I enjoyed this one. That was important after Season 6 tanked and Redemption didn't especially impress me. Not much of a surprise in the Tony Almeida angle, but that's fine.
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| 218 | Texas Flood
ID: 17210916
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:42
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This has to be the best season ever. Another major character
killed off last night (Bill Buchanon). The way this series is filmed
and produced is better than anything I've ever seen on TV.
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| 219 | Johnny Sue
ID: 31219410
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 23:43
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Great show yes; realistic???---uh, no! Yes, 24 is very good at creating suspense and the acting for the most part is pretty much above par. However, I have just hate that the whole 24 hour premise is soooooooooooo unbelievable.
No way---absolutely NO WAY--- can Jack and his entourage do what they do, be across different streets, buildings, etc. in a matter of minutes. Old man security guard is nailed by a bullet and within the hour, he's already hitting on the President's daughter??? Eek!
Redhead FBI agent is buried alive...BURIED ALIVE... and not only does she NOT take the rest of the day off, she doesn't even go to the hospital, she leaps onto a boat filled with the worst thugs this world has to offer (sans weapon or phone, mind you), escapes, and eventually convinces the President's right hand man that going over the head of the head of the FBI is a great strategy. Ugh.
Other than that, I love this show! : > )
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| 220 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:07
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I don't think anyone watches the show for realism. It's all about how badass Jack Bauer could be.
This season has been a huge upgrade over last season. The last 3 hours have been as good as it gets. Looks like there's still 12 hours left too.
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| 221 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 10:24
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Yeah, the last few hours have been pretty great. Better than Season 6 and on par with Season 5, which was just fine.
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| 222 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 10:47
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Last night seemed to serve as a transition episode but the last 10 minutes really kicked ass.
-Red Foreman getting shot was a total surprise.
-Jack's use of the bulldozer was amazing.
-Killing Quinn with the screwdriver and then using it start the car was classic Jack.
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| 223 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 10:57
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Yeah, I didn't see Red coming. I figured he'd be around till the end and then forgive Jack in episode 24.
And the bulldozer was sweet, albeit stupid, because it does nothing to disable the guy's automatic weapon.
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| 224 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 00:50
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Last season was the worst season ever for 24. The season has really picked up lately.
I do agree with [219] to some degree--but once you get that out of your head--it's back to the badass that is Bauer.
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| 225 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 10:37
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I was disappointed with last week's show. Then I started thinking...was it just because I wanted more? I was thinking that not a lot got accomplished and it was too short. But I think I was just so into it that I wanted it to last longer.
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| 226 | Donavan
ID: 422523014
Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 16:55
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I was only disappointed because they hardly showed Renee.
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| 227 | Donavan
ID: 422523014
Tue, Mar 31, 2009, 00:21
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So last week we have...
Jack sits on the running board of the semi after talking to the FBI.
10:59:57 (tick) 10:59:58 (tick) 10:59:59 (tick) 11:00:00 (tick)
BLACKOUT!
This week...
"The following takes place between 11 PM and 12 AM..."
The CDC is already on site ready to hose Jack down. Did they just appear out of thin air? Is David Copperfield in charge of them now?
Come on...I don't mind a little dramatic license, but we could've gotten a couple of minutes of something else before going back to Jack.
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| 228 | Donavan
ID: 422523014
Tue, Mar 31, 2009, 00:23
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and this....
Regarding Seton, what was gained by freeing Tony and drawing the FBI to the compound? Hodges said something like 'Greg bought us some time' by diverting the team to the empty warehouse. But if Greg wouldn't have done any of that, would the FBI have even showed up? And if so, would they have arrived as quickly as they did with Greg having Tony call in the FBI?
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| 229 | Donavan
ID: 422523014
Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 18:19
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What has happened to our beloved 24? There were only two great things about this episode: Jack out of the action for an extended period for the first time since, maybe, S1, and Kim on the way to complicate things for him; and Jon Voight. That murder was brutal, and I think on balance I like his motive. I like how closely it dovetails with Jack.
Sadly, the rest of the episode was snoooooozeville.
Tony's narrative could have been played out by a videogame sprite. Give him something interesting to do.
The Olivia storyline was totally icky but not satisfying at the end. I wanted an "I'll have your family eating dog food out of a can!" moment and we got a sort of weak mutually-assured-destruction thing where the Taylors would probably suffer worse in the long-run. I really wanted to like Olivia but these last few weeks her character's really fallen apart. We're pretty much back to the dog days of Season 3's political plot. And I don't mind Aaron managing Olivia's security but him protecting her in a sling is really dumb, and I'm willing to waive a lot.
Taylor held her "don't negotiate with terrorists" line before, so it annoys me that now she's caving and being all secretive with her generals.
I'm sorry to say the post-strike episodes are a significant step down in quality from the first nine. They're all okay, none flat-out suck, but none of them have any real spark.
Structurally, we have 55 minutes of hanging around and one "twist" to keep things interesting. Sometimes it's a good one -- a random act of violence, Jack exposed -- but that's it.
The characters are either given perfunctory roles (Larry, Tony, Olivia, Taylor, Renee) or have been dumped sometimes without really having done anything all season (Bill, Janis, Sean, Ethan, Henry, Morris, Dubaku, Juma, Chloe -- not their fault but she's still got nothing interesting going on).
The villains could be interesting -- Jon Voight with a private army -- but most of them are dull suits and soldiers. Even Hodges doesn't have the depth yet of Dubaku. And they're the enemy without; the early part of the season had the enemy within. The people who killed Roger, who forced Renee to stay dead. Stuff like the Marika plot was infinitely more interesting than the white hats putting aside their differences and teaming up to go after the black hats.
There's no intrigue, little characterisation, no real philosophical context any more and little momentum. It's getting to be like watching someone else play videogames. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop....
But if I have to settle for something, at least giving me Renee bouncing down the halls of the FBI! ;)
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| 230 | blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 01:02
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The Marika angle was probably the best part of Season 7 so far. It's moderately believable and it has me challenge assumptions in the real world.
The other great thing about this season is the morality attack from both Larry and Renee. Larry is about the best supporting character we've ever seen; it looks like he's going to stay a good guy for the duration, and that's great.
Olivia is fine as an actress (she was in Jericho too), but I'm not a fan of her arc in this case.
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| 231 | Donavan
ID: 422523014
Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 22:17
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Almeida???? What in the world......? Certainly didn't see his offing of Moss coming.
And we get a Kim sighting. Wow!
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| 232 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 00:04
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I am not buying the Almeda turncoat yet again. It just didn't work for me. Not sure how they are going to explain all of this.
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| 233 | Texas Flood
ID: 17210916
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 18:53
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Was it possible that Moss was actually the turncoat? Perhaps Moss
was the guy responsible for Tony's wife's death?
It seems rather odd to me how things just fell out of place in the
last minutes of the episode. Where the heck did that bio weapon
come from and who is the guy that took off with Almeida?
I can't help but wonder if Chloe might somehow be involved or
that Jeanine Graffalo's character isn't some sort of dubious baddy.
More questions than answers!
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| 234 | blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 00:06
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I don't like this at all.
I know how he got the cannister: Tony warned him. But that means Tony had to plan to be there at the same time.
It wasn't a silent clock tonight, so I guess there's a chance they didn't kill off my favorite character. I mean, Renee was buried alive, so...
I don't like how the main plotline ended 6 hours early tonight. That was the worst part about Season 7. I can't imagine too many scenarios that would be a sufficient ending to the season. Maybe if Tony's the mastermind, or something drastic, like Palmer is still alive and he did it. But short of that, it's going to be forced.
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| 235 | Donavan
ID: 30344226
Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 19:27
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What has happened with Tony? He has gone off the deep end big-time. And just how dark are they gonna paint Tony in order to permit Jack to kill him? In the past two hours, he has:
Stolen a bio-weapon
Arranged to blow up a house full of FBI guys
Stolen Jack's meds
Personally croaked two more FBI guys
Personally beat to death his accomplice
Moved up the timetable for a terrorist strike
Kissed the faux-lawyer TerrorChick -- with tongue.
I understand that you have to tear down Tony's well-established persona in order to make it okay for Jack to kill him. I just don't like the process. Tony was a hero, a loyal friend, etc. but ever since he lost Michelle and rose from the dead, as Jack alluded to, this isn't the Tony we know and love. Just who is this guy??
But I did love Jack's meltdown at the end, his going off on Chloe-lite, his misremembering who the President is, etc.
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| 236 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 14:36
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It had its bright spots--but I think the show turned for the worse when Tony was shown to be rogue again.
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| 237 | Little George
ID: 2242329
Tue, May 05, 2009, 17:21
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Last night's episode what a big HO-HUM to me. Not much advancing of the storyline although seeing Hodges getting blown up in a million pieces was certainly sweet justice.
Now if only they'll do that to Almeida!
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| 238 | Texas Flood
ID: 17210916
Tue, May 05, 2009, 18:09
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What's funny to me how super lib Jeannine Gerofalo is actually
appearing in a Fox production. I realize that Fox Entertainment is
a separate entity from Fox News, but seeing Jack Bauer get up in
her face is simply great entertainment.
Last nights episode did drag a little, but I'm anticipating a huge
surprise ending of some sort. To me this may be the best season
of 24 yet. Although it would be hard to top season 4 in my book.
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| 239 | wiggs
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ID: 04991311
Wed, May 20, 2009, 09:06
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what did people think of the finale? I was left with the feeling that there needed to be another show. I didnt feel this way because it was such a great show, i think it was more like I thought it was a terrible finale and they need to do a better job. Thoughts?
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| 240 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 20, 2009, 09:09
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Agreed. I thought perhaps it wasn't the finale after it ended. UGH!
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| 241 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Wed, May 20, 2009, 09:16
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I know- I went to check the guide on the dvr to see if there was another show next week.
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| 242 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, May 20, 2009, 14:15
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Hour 23 was much better than Hour 24. And Hour 22 was even better.
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| 243 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 20, 2009, 15:18
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I htought the show was great for the first half or more-then it started to fizzle. Had some nice moments--but left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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| 244 | Texas Flood
ID: 17210916
Wed, May 20, 2009, 23:19
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All in all a pretty good season. As usual the final episode leaves a
lot of unanswered questions as it attempts to suck us in for yet
another season.
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| 245 | Captain Charisma
ID: 13433923
Fri, May 22, 2009, 15:00
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Warning: Soapbox ahead
Is it finally time to call it a day for 24?
Call it a lucky co-incidence, fate or serendipity, but when Fox picked up '24' for its Fall 2001 season, they had no idea just how prescient its 'terrorists attacking the US' plotline would be. The pilot ended up being hurriedly re-edited to remove shots of a passenger airline exploding, since it aired just weeks after September 11. But despite the initial upset, the show managed to, not only capture, but actually define the zeitgeist of a wounded nation.
During the course of its first year, the show managed to juggle soap opera plotting (amnesia made a fantastic comeback), extreme violence and the kind of relentless cliff-hangers that would have Penelope Pitstop chewing her nails down to the knuckle. Perhaps more importantly, in its depiction of a bold, noble and unimpeachable African-American presidential candidate, the show arguably paved the way for Barack Obama's own bid for the White House.
Emboldened by a new wave of fans who discovered the show on DVD, 24 somehow managed to stretch out its implausable concept year-on-year, increasing in popularity with each successive season. Unfortunately, as the show evolved, and its leading man became increasingly indestructable (he's been brought back from the dead more times than Kenny on South Park), the politics of '24' began to take precedence. Self-proclaimed "right-wing nutjob" Joel Surnow, who created the show, started to make his influence felt and the tone began to change quite noticably.
Out went the ingenious plotting and smart characterization and in its place came a depressingly samey parade of torture scenes until the show started to look like one of Lynndie England's home movies.
Interestingly, in 2007, the military even waded into the debate, arguing that the depiction of torture as a fool-proof interrogation technique was having a detrimental effect on young soldiers. This stuff never happened to the A-Team. Of course, the right-wingers were keen to have their say, with clueless, venom-spitting pundit Laura Ingraham arguing that the popularity of 24 was effectively a national referendum on the use of torture.
So when 24 returned after a year out, caused by the writers' strike, everyone was watching closely to see how the show would handle its responsibility to air both sides of the torture argument. However, this was not the subtle exploration that we might have hoped for. Jack's by-the-book counterpart looked as though she was itching to force a wet towel down a suspect's throat by the end of the third episode. So much for a fair and balanced analysis of the issues.
So now as the US reels from the latest season-ending cliff-hanger, the whole format is starting to feel a little tired and repetitive. There's a saying in TV that when a show passes its prime it has 'jumped the shark'. I think '24' has dragged the shark out of its tank, shot its wife, electocuted its genitals and glued its gills together. After single-handedly killing 230 people, maybe Jack Bauer has finally earned a day off.
The season-ender was not, in my mind, satisfactory concluded. Rushed plot points, unfinished business, the deteriation of the moral fabric of our own government, etc. has led me to conclude that the best days of 24 are well behind us. What more is there to do? How can Jack possibly be martyred as a hero to his country when his own country refuses to acknowledge his own existance and his saving of multiple lives in multiple seasons?
There is nothing left for 24 to accomplish. It caught our attention, it piqued our interests in ways beyond our comprehension and now would be the time to pull the plug on this once great show.
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| 246 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, May 22, 2009, 17:52
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Christian Cage, is that you?
Even though this article seems to have been written by Jayson Stark, I agree. Season 7, which was worlds better than Season 6, rarely brought up anything new. The plotlines are tired, and even the idea of a woman president became uninteresting. The best part of Season 7 was Larry's morality. We never saw that one come to a proper conclusion (in addition to the fact that they killed off their best character). It would have been nice to see Jack NOT hurt someone, in a tribute to Larry, and have that restraint be a defining moment of the season.
But it was not to be. There really isn't anything else I'm looking forward to on this show at this point.
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| 247 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Tue, Mar 23, 2010, 10:45
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This may be the best season ever. Nice little twist at the end of
last nights episode. Still one of the best written, filmed and acted
series to ever be on TV.
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| 248 | Rendle
ID: 91341221
Fri, Mar 26, 2010, 22:55
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Meh, this season has been pretty bad and that cliffhanger was ridiculous. Fox announced the show's cancellation today.
link
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| 249 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Sat, Mar 27, 2010, 01:36
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I'll miss 24...somewhat. Though action-filled and always tense, this year has been more unrealistic even by 24 standards. Since TPTB have apparently decided to create the most far-fetched storylines (Dana and Co.running off to God-knows-where and not being fired on the spot---all before we find out she's a mole (!)(?); absolutely NO punishment for Chloe's maniacal gun threat to the NSA dudes, Jack surviving a stabbing, torture, a thisclose bomb going off in his face, and now multiple bullet wounds, Renee...and Renee alone knowing exactly where to find Jack in New York freaking City just before he gets his head blown off, etc.) along with the always impossible time constraints, it's seriously time to put it to rest once and for all.
Thanks for all the thrills 24 but please enough is enough.
P.S. I enjoyed every minute ;>)
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| 250 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Sat, Mar 27, 2010, 09:13
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Thanks Jack
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| 251 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 00:05
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Nitpicking I know, but still:
1. With this episode, Kyla became only slightly less annoying than Kim Bauer for me. Kyla tripping and spraining her ankle (or whatever)? Please! Let's just say I began to regret her "escape" from the terrorists.
2. I see the promise of a future with Jack has done wonders for Renee's mental state!
3. Just curious: when working at a law enforcement agency during the height of a terrorist crisis, should one be making and receiving lots of calls on one's personal cell phone coughDanacough....especially when you're NOT trying to attract attention?
4. Was it just me, or did the retreat back up the tunnel o' doom seem to take about five times longer than the walk to the waiting transport vehicle?
5. How much longer before Chloe and Dana get involved in an old-fashioned catfight???
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| 252 | Punk42AE
ID: 582102623
Sun, Apr 04, 2010, 12:27
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Finally just got caught up, not like I didn't see all of the people that have been "Bad" so far. I won't say the season has been good, but it's been something to catch on the DVR and only half pay attention to.
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| 253 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Fri, Apr 09, 2010, 01:58
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Excellent two-parter this past Monday.
That may have been the saddest ending that 24 ever had. That hit in a way that Chapelle or even Teri (or even poor Edgar!) didn't.
Not only did the terrorists succeed but the feed wasn't even yanked in time. A total 100% victory for them. Though it would be nice, in a law of unintended consequences, for his death to galvanize his country and the wife to take over and solidify the peace he sought. But, all of that in eight hours seems thin.
I'm guessing all of the IRK guys are dead because it looks like the feed has delayed by only a few minutes so Samir probably could not have sneaked out.
I'm also guessing it looks like the Russians are about to reemerge on the scene as the "real" bad guys.
Definitely the best two hours of the season, and on a par with the best action hours of the entire series. I really liked how the writers set up a situation where the "treasonous" actions of General Brucker actually did save New York (and probably would be applauded by the majority of the country) despite being completely illegal. Ethan made it clear that Fakistan's constitution is murky, so it's doubtful that Mrs. Hassan can easily assume power.
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| 254 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Tue, May 11, 2010, 23:37
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Jack is going out in a blaze....it's going to be an interesting finale.
My prediction is that Jack gets whacked in the last episode. I
would love to see him take out that weasel Logan.
Shooting the chick at point blank range and disemboweling the
Russian baddy to retrieve a sim card he swallowed were special
moments. All in all pretty violent stuff, but no worse than many
movies we've all seen.
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| 255 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Wed, May 26, 2010, 21:21
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Goodbye Jack, Chloe and Co. All in all, this last year of 24 was disappointing to say the least. No closure at all for Jack; Madam President weakened to the point of utter despair (although her scene vs. Hassan's wife was THE best scene of the whole year); Logan cowarding his way out by atttempting suicide after murdering his aide; Jack's indefensible slaughtering of many simply due to revenge even while wearing some RoboCop suit; the Russian President facing absolutely no justice that we see, etc.
I'd rate the whole season as a C- or so.
Waited for Jack to say "I love you" to Chloe at the end but nah, not Jack. The best Chloe got was a "thank you". She deserved so, so much more. But her closing scene was awesome.
And besides, Chloe got the final word in so I guess there's that.
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| 256 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, May 26, 2010, 21:59
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There was no closure because they are in negotation to create a movie. So that's why the end was so bland.
I was disappointed with this year too. Hopefully a movie can redeem the show's ending.
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| 257 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, May 26, 2010, 23:12
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It's supposed to take place in Europe after S8
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| 258 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, May 27, 2010, 00:55
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I've heard about the movie but I thought it was destined to be a separate entity from the end of season 8 not a continuation of it. Am I wrong?
Just going over the landscape of what Jack went through over the past 24 hours...he was tortured, electrocuted, stabbed--more than once, shot--more than once, lost the supposed love of his life, went out for bloody revenge like never before, kidnapped a former POTUS, etc....all for what? To stop a peace accord? Jack's moral compass got trampled upon, broken and thrown away with the rest of this garbage plot.
But I loved it anyway! ; > )
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