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0 Subject: Big Brother 10

Posted by: blue hen
- [30311814] Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:42

Is anyone watching? Doesn't seem nearly as interesting as last year. Here are my Week 2 power rankings, without comments (for now).

1. Dan
2. Keesha
3. Steven
4. Jerry
5. Jessie
1blue hen
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      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 12:59
Obviously, you're all too busy watching on CBS.com to post. After the third eviction (Angie), here are the power rankings.

1. Dan
2. Memphis
3. April
4. Jessie
5. Keesha

The house is full of idiots. Jessie is the strongest person and the least moral. That type of guy is always a threat, and they should have nixed him while they could. I blame Keesha for this. Memphis has a falling alliance (and just lost his biggest proponent). Unless he, Michelle or Jessie wins HOH, he's going on the block this week.

2Ref
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      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 16:48
Not a fan of the people this season but ohw ell. Jesse should have went home--blame Keesha--or blame everyone for blindly following the HoH's wishes when they know better. Memphis will go home this week.
3wazaaap_guy
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      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 21:04
I agree that they should have sent Jessie home instead of Angie. I'm not so surprised that he stayed as I am that he got 0 votes. What is this whole respecting the HOH's wishes business? They are out of power the week after you are supposedly supposed to go along with their wishes. I can sort of understand Keesha's wish to send Angie home instead of Jessie... if Angie stays and wins HOH she almost certainly puts Keesha up next week; if Jessie wins, because Keesha has assured him he is safe, there is at least a better chance that he does not put her up if he wins HOH again. Additionally, Jessie's an idiot. It's painful listening to him put a sentence together; did you hear his goodbye message to Angie?

What are you basing your power rankings on? Any rationale for why Dan is 1? I'd argue that Ollie should be in the top 5: he has a 4-person alliance (if it hasn't already dissolved), a very strong alliance partner, and doesn't really have any enemies yet.

For future discussions, is this thread only for discussion on what CBS shows, or what has actually happened (like the HOH being won after last night's episode)?
4PuNk42AE
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      Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 21:34
Yeah I already know who won it too WG.
5blue hen
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      Sat, Aug 02, 2008, 12:31
Yeah stick to CBS. I even Tivo episodes so I see them after they air rather than after they happen. True, Ollie is a darkhorse here.

I think Dan is #1 for a few reasons - he's probably the smartest one in the house. He knew when to bail on the Bryan alliance, he's throwing competitions at precisely the right time, and he's awesome at keeping quiet. Teachers are smart, right? I think he'll win competitions when he has to.
6blue hen
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      Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 15:05
Wow, this changes things.

April has to be #1 and due to that Ollie is probably #2. I still like Dan but even dumbass Libra is on to his game.

I want to see Memphis and Jessie fight.
7Ref
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      Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 15:22
Dan didn't know when to bail on the Bryan situation. He gave him a vote. He's a floater and will be gone when it's time unless he joins forces. Until then he will continue to float. It's not a bad plan...for now.

Ollie is the only one thus far who truly doesn't have a target. But he will when they go to put him and April up together.
8Peter N.
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      Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 22:00
This is the worst group of people they've put together. Talk about a bunch of idiots. Angie was the only person I liked. Last season's cast was fun to watch. The season before was my favorite. Overall, this group just flat out sucks.
9Ref
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      Mon, Aug 04, 2008, 23:41
agreed. They put together the most contrasting set of of people to spark drama to supposedly make for good tv. It's ridiculous. Yet I still skim through it on dvr and catch it on after dark sometimes. Go figure.
10PuNk42AE
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 10:08
This is how most of the reality series start for me. Never really a fan at the begining of the season but then they grow on you and it gets more interesting. Alot of the time on Survivor, Big Brother, and Amazing Race that's how I am. P
11blue hen
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 11:57
These people aren't growing on me. Last season they did. Even the one I hated most was at least hot.
12Ref
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 12:09
Well I know you hated Aaron the most so that's TMI for me.
13blue hen
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 15:29
I was talking 8. Daniele. Easily my least favorite, but nice to look at.

This year? No such thing. Amber would probably be the 2nd hottest one this season, and she was like 5th hottest that season, crying and all.
14Ref
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 15:32
Yeah that was 2 seasons ago and I htought Dannielle wasn't great at all. Too skinny and as soon as she talked, err whined, you instantly got sick. Jessica was by far better. This year, I guess Keesha is the best looking though none are that good.
15wazaaap_guy
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 16:27
I agree with Punk... I don't really see what the problem with this cast is. There's plenty of drama and fights and good competition, what more can you ask for?

BH, you are nuts. Suggesting Amber would be the 2nd hottest this year implies that you think she's hotter than either April or Keesha. Now, those two may not be as hot as either Jen from the past 2 season's, but they're still pretty hot and definitely hotter than Amber. I'd rank Angie ahead of Amber also, and maybe even give the edge to Michelle. Heck, Amber only barely edges Renny in my book.
16Peter N.
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 23:18
Angie is the best looking one of this year's group. Not even close. Keesha is a distance second and that's where it ends.

At this point, I'm rooting for Keesha or Memphis. If those two get the boot, I don't know who I'd go for.
17PuNk42AE
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 23:25
The people this time are so whiney and annoying so far. It's all bleeps when Libra starts lieing about what she DID say. It's all crying when Michelle doesn't get anything, or when Keesha lies about stuff on her birthday. This is just the TV that annoys me and turns me off.
18Ref
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      Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 23:51
Ollie's layin low. April could ultimately hurt him. Dan went from being the huge target to kinda out of the limelight altogether. Loved hismotivational speeches.
19wazaaap_guy
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      Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 00:43
Can someone loan me $500,000 so I can buy Hawaii before Michelle or Jessie does?
20Ref
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      Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 01:16
Boo Hoo. She should have won the game if she wanted something big. I mean what did she expect?
21blue hen
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 12:18
Yeah I didn't know Hawaii was that cheap.

Michelle is an idiot. She was cheering when Memphis got the POV prize. No wonder she's aligned with Jessie.

Dan is smart. Wicked smart. And what happens when America tells him to vote for Jessie? Who's going to get blamed for the mystery vote? Keesha? Libra? I really hope Libra gets HOH next so we can see where her loyalties lie. I can't imagine she'd put Keesha up. And if so, then who else?
22Ref
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 12:37
You don't put up anyone in your own alliance. You let that person go down when the other team gets HoH...and they will.
23PuNk42AE
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 12:40
What makes you think that it's going to be 1 vote for Jessie? How would Keesha vote for Memphis after all her crap? Most likely Dan's vote will be the swing vote here.
24blue hen
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 12:51
For Jessie:
Keesha, Renny, Dan

For Memphis:
Jerry, Ollie, Michelle

You think Libra votes for Memphis? Or more importantly, I think Keesha goes with the HOH and Renny follows her. I could see a 6-1 vote, with Dan being the 1, but Keesha and Libra fighting over who it was...
26PuNk42AE
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:00
Well I do know stuff happened before the last ep that they showed none of during Tuesdays show.
27Ref
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:11
Jessie is gunning for Libra. Guarantee she wants him out--and for good reason.
28PuNk42AE
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:12
Just based on everything Libra said last week she'd be voting for Jesse, after they got in their finger waving and everything else.
29PuNk42AE
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:20
At this point I think the vote is going to go...

Jesse - Keesha, Libra and Kenny

Memphis - Jerry, Michelle and Ollie

Making Dan (America's Choice) the swing vote. That is probably the worst case for Dan since it would then be looked like he joined one of those two alliances. Where if it was a 6-1 vote he could play it off easier.
30PuNk42AE
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      Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 23:59
Looks like it ended up exactly that way. What all happened after Jesse was voted out? Lots of back stabbing and yelling, or everyone thought that's what would happen?
31blue hen
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 02:34
Right. I think Dan might be in trouble. The best part is, everything is all mixed up now. I only see two alliances - Ollie/April and Keesha/Renny. Every single other person in the house has reasons to hate all the others.

The good news is that Jessie's out. I don't especially hate any of the others at this point. Sure, I'm not too fond of Michelle, but...

New power rankings? April's obviously still #1 and I doubt Michelle guns for her. Ollie probably goes #2. The double-cross puts Memphis at #3 and then I'll put Dan at #4 since he can probably win a competition if he needs to.

Looks like we're going to get Big Brother Classic on Sunday, including hot but stupid Jen from season 8. Mike Boogie was pictured, but will Will show?
32PuNk42AE
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 13:05
Last night was the Nominations, and they ended up being what I thought, but was hoping it would be one person different.
33angryCHAIR
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 14:01
JEN WAS THE HOTTEST EVER ON BIG BROTHER! ANNOYING AS HELL--BUT EQUALLY HOT!
34angryCHAIR
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 14:06
My bad---I meant Nakomis was the hottest!
35blue hen
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 20:51
Punk - stop that. Try to stick with CBS and not ahead of it.
36PuNk42AE
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      Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 21:25
I'm just saying I know who it was.
37blue hen
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      Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 22:35
Ugh. I really don't hate any of these people, but I certainly don't like anyone but Dan.

Jerry, of course, fell a whole bunch of notches in my book. Biggest. Hypocrite. Ever.
38blue hen
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      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:55
Man, I really hate Jerry now. Dan's smart to get him to like him, but he better be voting him out.
39Ref
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      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:13
April should go. If Renny wanted to guarantee that--she'd have put Ollie up. Even if she won the veto--she lost a vote w/ollie gone. Now Jerry could go.
40blue hen
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      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:47
Yeah, Renny really didn't play this game well at all.
41blue hen
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      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 23:30
Wow, for a second I thought Dan was a genius. Obviously, Ollie didn't come up with the nomination himself - I bet Michelle told him who to pick.

I think Dan's still in decent shape, considering. The best thing for him is probably for himself to win POV and take Memphis off, then let Ollie put Keesha up (although then she's after Dan).

What do the power rankings look like now? I guess Keesha is looking good if she can survive the POV this week. And Michelle really doesn't have many enemies.
42PuNk42AE
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      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 00:19
This season is so different since there aren't two sides sticking together, it's a free for all.
43PuNk42AE
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      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 20:46
All I can say is WOW!
44blue hen
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      Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 12:16
What a week. The double elimination came at just the right time. The producers are smart.

Jerry's smart too, but I'd have taken it one further. I'd have put up Renny and Memphis. Dan and Keesha are stronger players, and to stay, Jerry needs the alliance that gets broken up to have it's stronger player remain. That way, that person can win the next HOH and put both of the opposing alliance on the block. If Keesha goes home, then either Dan or Memphis wins the next HOH (Renny has no shot) and Renny goes home then Jerry goes home. If Dan goes home, Keesha probably wins the next HOH and Memphis goes next, then Jerry.

BUT, if Renny goes home, Keesha can still win HOH, at which time she puts Dan and Memphis on the block, and then also tries to eliminate the other one. Ditto for Jerry going home and Dan winning HOH.

Of course, this assumes a lot, but I don't think it's unreasonable. As it stands now, Dan's the best in competitions and you have to like his chances to get off the block this week.
45Ref
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      Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 12:46
Jerry isn't smart at all but he has little hope and he's grasping for straws. I admire him for thinking he can make a deal with Memphis--the strongest player. I mean realistically, since he can't compete next week, he's likely going home unless he can with the Veto. Renny can't compete at all, so I see why she isn't up. But the veto winner has all the power this week. Memphis ahs said that he won't see any of these people after the show and he doesn't care. He can be less trusted than Dan. Memphis has deals with everyone but Renny. Keesha has deals with everyone but Jerry. Dan has a deal with Memphis and a loose agreement with Keesha and Renny but Renny backed out pretty quickly it seems--pulling Keesha with her. Also Renny and Keesha also seem to be already backstabbing each other.

I assumed it would be Memphis and Dan OTB this week. But Jerry and Renny are loose cannons. Since Memphis and Dan are most likely to win the veto, by one of them coming off the block, Jerry then has two people to choose from to go off. BUt by not having Memphis OTB, if he wins he can take one of them off--which means Renny goes up. SInce Memphis and Renny don't care for each other, that means Renny would go home. Since Dan is Jerry's target, Memphis should have went up with him. But Jerry thinks he has a deal...so I guess I cna't blame him.

Now if Memphis wins the veto and takes Dan down--which is the plan--Renny goes home. If Dan wins the veto--Renny goes up just because Jerry has a deal with Memphis and she goes home. If Memphis did go up, the vote is split and Jerry sends Keesha home because of their deal after the tie.

My prediction. Either Dan or Memphis wins veto and Renny goes home. Then Jerry goes home next week. Final 2 will prob be Dan and Memphis. Keesha could surprise but Dan is the best at endurances. Guess I'm pulling for Dan, but not sure how he could win the game with so many people irkd at him.
46blue hen
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      Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 13:28
If I'm Jerry, I want either Keesha or Dan and then two from the other alliance. That way it's me and Keesha or me and Dan against 2 others, and I have a decent chance at final 3.
47wazaaap_guy
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      Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 00:19
I really don't see how Dan doesn't win. I thought Memphis, if he won the final HoH, might stab Dan in the back and take Jerry to the final 2 for an easier win. I really don't see why he would think his chances are better with Dan than with Jerry. Perhaps people would feel sorry for Jerry or give it to him for being 75 and making the final 2, but those are maybes. Memphis vs Dan, it seems like they played similar games but Dan did everything better and won HoH's, so he'd get the edge among voters.

The only things I can think are that either Memphis thought he'd likely get 2nd no matter what, or that he thinks he has the votes. Perhaps he thinks Ollie and April will both definitely vote for him over Dan, and that Michelle will too since she was back doored. He's gotta figure Keesha and Renny will vote for Dan. Jerry claimed he could be the tie breaker, but I can see him voting for Memphis and making Libra the tie breaker, since I can't really remember her even talking to either Memphis or Dan.

Re: Keesha, I'm not so much surprised Memphis voted her out as I am that he said nothing about it. Though it was likely a lost vote regardless, I might have tried to explain that it wasn't just his doing, but a concocted plan on both his and Dan's part. Dan seemed to isolate himself completely from the decision, and pinned all the blame on Memphis. I really thought that in his goodbye message to Keesha at the end, Memphis might have mentioned that Dan played a role in all this as well. I just remember how mad Ryan got when Adam hinted to Natalie that he voted for her to stay, and wondered why Memphis wasn't more angered by Dan's message and whisper.

48blue hen
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      Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 00:33
Just quoting post 1:


1. Dan
2. Memphis
3. April
4. Jessie
5. Keesha


And I'll stand by that. April and Jessie (and Keesha) were strong players eliminated because they were strong.

I agree that Memphis should have said something to Keesha. Dan even covered his tracks and told her about the trip. You could see Michelle and Keesha, for two, seemed pretty impressed.

I disagree about Memphis beating Jerry. I don't think it would have happened. Memphis wasn't going to win either way.

I realized last night that there's a Showtime preview going on right now - the most boring week of the season. I've watched the last two nights and it's amazing how much they actually talk, even though there are only two people in the house. They seem bored, but they've talked about some pretty interesting things. Tonight, they're debating making Renegade T-shirts.
49Ref
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      Sat, Sep 13, 2008, 00:38
BB didn't allow Memphis to tell Keesha.

Memphis had deals with everyone. Jerry wins if he's in the final 2 as he didn't ahve any enemies.

Dan has enemies. Memphis has less. Maybe one less. Dan really needs Michelle to flip and vote for him as a good game play decision to backdoor her.

April, Ollie, Michelle and Jerry likley to vote for Memphis

Keesha, Libra and Renny likley to vote for Dan.

Michelle really is the swing vote. There is no way April, Ollie or Jerry are voting for Dan. Dan played the best game. But even though he won 3 HoHs and played the game really well, Memphis also won a lot of PoVs and played the game. Memphis was more deceitful, but I guess that is the game. In the end, the best two players are in the final two and that's what counts.
50blue hen
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 18:03
I think Michelle will vote for Dan, and I also think Dan is one of the strongest players I can remember.
51Ref
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 18:13
I watched a smidge of it on After Dark last night and Dan thinks that Libra will vote for Memphis.

Here is his take for the vote tonight:

Memphis for sure: Ollie, Jerry, Libra
Dan for sure: Keesha, Renny

Up in the air: Michelle, April

Ollie will do anything April tells him to do. Perhaps they had their little talk last night and Dan feels Libra isn't voting for him. I thought for sure she would.

I won't be bothered by who wins it, bu if I had a vote, it would be for Dan.
52blue hen
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 18:41
Yeah, I'd vote for Ollie and April to vote for the same person over just about any prop bet.

Anyone remember week 1 when Brian said Memphis was the favorite?
53wazaaap_guy
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 20:56
Yea, he said Memphis had this thing in the bag, or something. Pretty stupid statement I thought at the time, as so much has to go right for someone to get to the final 2. Even if you thought Memphis had a good shot and was a strong player, its ridiculous to think its a no brainer at that point in time.
54PuNk42AE
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 23:09
Big win
55Ref
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      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 23:55
WOW!!! I didn't see that vote coming at all!
56blue hen
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      Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 10:40
Not bad. The jurors were smarter than I thought.
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