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Subject: Survivor - Season 22 - Redemption Island
Posted by: JeffG
- Dude [01584348] Mon, Jan 10, 2011, 11:06
The cast of 16 new contestants for "Redemption Island" has been announced. There are two additional 'returning' contestants that will be revealed later, rumored to be Evil Russell and Boston Rob.
This group includes a Miss America contestant, a former Auburn head cheerleader, two former NFL players (Steven Wright, Grant Mattos), a US veteran who saw combat in Iraq, and a guy who looks like they wanted to cast this year's Fabio surfer clone, although this one is a pre-med student. A few of the older contestants are lawyers, farmers, and CEOs, and the younger ones are again pretty easy on the eye. Mostly California residents again (10 of 16) as it seems the show does more casting now where it used to screen applications.
A new wrinkle this season is that the contestant voted out goes to some sort of exile island type camp where they wait for the next contestant to be voted out. At that point they compete against each other to decide who stays in exile and who is officially done. At some point, perhaps around the merge, the surviving cast off is returned to the competition.
This season's biggest twist however is that the two returning favorites are assigned to each tribe and rumored to have immunity up through the merge which means they are guaranteed on the jury and only have to win half a game.
Season premiers February 16. It will be on Wednesdays again this season. |
| 1 | katietx
ID: 301121518
Mon, Jan 24, 2011, 16:05
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It is indeed Russell & Rob. Haven't we seen enough of them?
Evidently not.
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| 2 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Tue, Jan 25, 2011, 11:40
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I saw a promo on CBS during the AFC championship last weekend that was totally playing on the Russell and Rob angle (These guys were portrayed as giants and no other contestants were shown).
It will be interesting to see what the other contestants feel about these returnees when they are no doubtedly dramatically revealed in the first episode. First thing I would do in this group is start a rumor that I heard these guys got huge appearance fees to be on this season to get the anti-R&R sentiment higher among tribemates.
I'm sure this whole Redemption Island gimick is to guarantee that Russ & Rob can get more air time even if they are voted out early. I'm sure the 'duels' to decide who continues on the Island and who is gone from the game will be very Russ/Rob friendly.
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| 3 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Tue, Feb 01, 2011, 02:50
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Looks like Russell Hantz may be in some big litigation troubles pretty soon:
Russell gives away Survivor secrets
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| 4 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 1550160
Wed, Feb 09, 2011, 22:25
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I hear Russell/Rob will have immunity until the merge.
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| 5 | weykool
ID: 138481617
Thu, Feb 10, 2011, 13:31
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I hear Russell/Rob will have immunity until the merge.
Makes sense.
In past seasons players who have played before wear huge targets on their backs.
Bringing them back only to see them voted off on day 3 and 6 would be a complete waste.
The big question is will they team up after the merge or will the egos of wanting to be top dog get in the way again?
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| 6 | philflyboy
ID: 206301814
Sun, Feb 13, 2011, 07:24
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I thought for sure I read in the Entertainment magazine that Russell and Rob having immunity until the merge was just a rumor. I would like to have seen that but I am afraid they will both be going home early.
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| 7 | Skidazl
ID: 3253219
Sun, Feb 13, 2011, 12:51
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PFB, I agree, I saw somewhere that it was a rumor, too. Though it would be nice to have them stay around for a while, they will/should be going home early.
It is still a game for $1 Million so giving them immunity til the merge would give them too much of an advantage and just not fair to the other contestants, IMO. Maybe give them only %00,00 if they did this and won, LOL
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| 8 | philflyboy
ID: 206301814
Sun, Feb 13, 2011, 20:58
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On the flipside of that. I would love to go to the merge with them because you know they would be voted off quickly and you would be that much closer to winning.
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| 9 | Skidazl
ID: 3253219
Sun, Feb 13, 2011, 21:04
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good point
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| 10 | JeffG
ID: 47112621
Wed, Feb 16, 2011, 22:03
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Well, R & R have no special immunity which is good, but it looks like they lined up all their mindless minions to follow their every instruction. Those guys may be there for a while.
BTW, great first tribal. Wacky Phillip made things quite entertaining.
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| 11 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 1550160
Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 00:39
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Definitely one of the more memorable first tribals...in full on game mode early on. Phillip definitely a loose cannon.
I do not think Russell is at all safe in his tribe...Rob already owns his...
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| 12 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 13:28
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Right out of the gate, Rob is thinking sharp. I don't agree with R&R being there, but it's always interesting. Oh yeah, and I'm an ex-Canadian secret agent, so you have to believe every word I say.
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| 13 | weykool
ID: 138481617
Tue, Feb 22, 2011, 12:33
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Wacky Phillip?
We are talking full on loon.
what did he have to gain by blabbing about the HI?
If he said nothing it would have been used and out of the game.
Rob still has a huge target on his back and is going to need to play the game of his life to avoid the early exit.
As for Russell, everyone is fully aware of his schtick and arent going to be falling for any of it.
Same old Russell playing his same old "best I can do is finish 2nd"game.
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| 14 | Skidazl
ID: 24182414
Thu, Feb 24, 2011, 15:08
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Not sure I really like the ousting of Matt, weakens the team quite a bit imo. I do understand Rob's thought process but he should have seen how strong Matt's loyalty to him was. His congratulating the other team was pretty weak, but strategic in his own mind I'm sure. Seems the smarter move would have been to take out Andrea if he wanted to bust those 2 up early...
And Flipped has to go soon...
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| 15 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Thu, Feb 24, 2011, 15:18
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I like how the producers put a question mark after "Former Federal Agent?" when they show Phillip. I can't wait to hear the real story.
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| 16 | weykool
ID: 138481617
Thu, Feb 24, 2011, 17:11
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Seems voting Matt out was a bit premature.
Now you have Kristina, Andrea, and Phillip who could turn one other player and there goes your alliance.
I know Phillip promised Rob his vote but even Rob can see that might or might not mean much with Mr "My word is strong as oak until I have to break it".
Rob should have taken out Phillip and then blind sided Matt at the next tribal.
The numbers would still have been with him.
On the other tribe Russell continues his horrible game play.
The furry guy knows he's lying, the two girl's in his "unbreakable" alliance of 3 both know he's lying, and everyone else strongly suspects he's lying.
I predict an early exit for him.
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| 17 | weykool
ID: 138481617
Thu, Mar 03, 2011, 16:03
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So now we get to see just how "great" Russell is.
I dont know that he has proved he posses any survivor skills when it comes to challeneges.
It was really pathetic to see the tribe throw the challenge.
If you have the numbers to vote Russell out then why not use that vote as your mulligan?
You just gave the other tribe blankets, tarps, and other comfort items that Im sure you could have used them at your own tribe.
Rob continues his excellent gameplay.
Amazing how he is able to read and play Andrea.
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| 18 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 550421116
Thu, Mar 03, 2011, 17:21
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imo It is always a mistake to throw a challenge...eventually you are going to tribal anyway. Throwing a challenge puts you one step closer to having to vote someone out you would rather not vote out.
Not sure how great Rob has been...voting Matt out that early seemed a mistake to me. Plenty of time to blind side him later. Stupid to weaken your alliance by knocking two loyal followers out this early in the game.
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| 19 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, Mar 10, 2011, 08:48
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Russell showing tears after losing at redemption was pretty creepy. He basically complained about being ambushed in camp, but he had happen to him what he dished out for two seasons. Having an alliance of 3 works much better with the HII pal! What his former tribmates have going for them is their ability to win challenges. If they can keep their numbers they could dominate post merge and cripple and fracture Rob's tribe now. Ralph is growing on me.
Crazy Secret Agent Phillip is another fun character. He definitely got the season off to a good start.
I'm still not sold on this whole redemption island gimick, but have a feeling we'll not see the returning ousted contestant until after the merge and close to the end.
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| 20 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 1550160
Fri, Mar 11, 2011, 00:09
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I would expect redemption survivor will rejoin at the merge and that should be the end of redemption island.
Rob made a good move in getting immunity idol...he should be smart enough to keep the idol secret. I think it is a mistake to share that you have the idol at least until you know you are going to use it.
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| 21 | weykool
ID: 138481617
Fri, Mar 11, 2011, 14:32
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I think it is a mistake to share that you have the idol at least until you know you are going to use it.
Agree....and its an even bigger mistake to tell someone about to leave the game you have the idol.
Ralph might be crazy smart, but its obvious he is more crazy than smart.
Ressell(as Ralph calls him) crying was pathetic.
As the girl pointed out it only lasted for a few seconds and then his "Russellness" kicked in and he showed his true colors.
Overall shaping up to be a good season.
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| 22 | Skidazl
ID: 56327417
Sat, Apr 09, 2011, 22:51
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Wow, Matt again, poor kid, just divulges too much. Rob playing a paranoid kind of game, but seems to be working for him.
Hoping, thinking the lawyer should flip, that would be his best plan, IMO.
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| 23 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Sat, Apr 09, 2011, 23:54
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Loving the Redemption Island season thus far. Bummer that Matt got sent right back but the idiot spilled his guts to Rob and frankly, he got what he deserved. Now the interesting part becomes exactly when will the Redemption Island survivor return back into the game this time.
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| 24 | weykool
ID: 7348811
Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 16:46
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What was the purpose of voting out Matt again?
If Matt and Andrea votes with Rob they have 7 vote vs 5 for the other alliance.
If they decide to vote with the other alliance then its 5-7 against Rob.
Is it better to keep someone who might flip or someone who you know will always vote against you?
Perhaps with Matt gone there is a better chance to keep Andrea in line, but it still seemed like a bad time to do the old blindside.
I did like the line where Rob said when its time to vote of Phillip he would just tell him....we wouldnt blindside him we would just frontside him.
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| 25 | Skidazl
ID: 56327417
Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 17:48
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Good line, I agree...
But Matt was the swing vote as you stated, if he flips, Rob is done. Why not get rid of him? Not only that he is probably Rob's biggest physical threat next to Grant, who is his right hand guy. Now that challenges are individual, totally made sense to get rid of Matt on that level, too, IMO.
Now Rob is back with the numbers 6-5 and can take out the other tribe as planned...
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| 26 | weykool
ID: 7348811
Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 18:58
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The problem is he left 5 players on the other tribe.
They only need to flip 1 player and Rob is done.
If he kept Matt they would need Matt and another player or 2 players to flip.
What happens if Phillip doesnt get a scoop of the crispy rice again and decides to flip?
It just doesnt make sense that Matt would flip after he decided against it the week before.
Probably much easier to control Matt than keep your other 5 in line.
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| 27 | Skidazl
ID: 56327417
Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 20:02
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I agree 100% with what we saw on the edits, but remember, ROb doesn't see all that and only heard Matt say he considered flipping, that is a red flag for sure. If Rob and his "alliance" all saw what we did, no doubt he goes after the other 5.
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| 28 | JeffG
ID: 47112621
Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 21:51
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This season hit a lull, and if it was not for colorful guys like Ralph and Phillip, and Matt's redemption run, it would be pretty bland. Smart move combining two episodes into one hour tonight with very little drama with the tribal vote. I'll give Rob his props for controlling his entire tribe and playing the game smart, but I really think the season lost something by starting out with Rob vs Russell and then CBS pretty much making this the season of all Rob all the time. The three cute young girls leaching under Robs wing I could not even name. Right now I can not even figure out who to root for, anyone but Rob I guess (even though he earned it this season).
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| 29 | beastiemiked
ID: 541322823
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 00:23
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Phillip is the single greatest survivor character of all time. He passed Coach in awesomeness. His response to Ralph about the feather at Tribal was just amazing.
This season sucks strategically but as long as Phillip is around it'll be very entertaining. The fact that he's self aware is kinda scary considering how crazy he sounds.
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| 30 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 01:13
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Yeah, I'm afraid Philip is growing on me...and that can't be a good thing. LOL At times he seems so out of touch and then other times it's as if he's some psycho genius that is able to rattle off some pretty heavy analogies. I suspect his very many personalites are at odds at all times so it must be tough being Philip. I would love, love, love to see him, Coach and Naonka on one tribe. (As Frank from Everybody Loves Raymond would say...Holy Crap!) LOL
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| 31 | beastiemiked
ID: 541322823
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 02:08
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He's actually really good with his words. The fact that he can rattle off some of the things he says without hesitation is pretty amazing.
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| 32 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 11:07
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After looking after Jeff Probst's latest blog, there was a great comment by a reader who expressed how he would have may a play during Tribal Council:
“Zapatera held a meeting and we’ve decided who wins the $1M. Rob has control of Omatepe and they run around licking his feet and drinking his kool-aid but Zapatera will have control of the Jury in the end. Rob tells his cult members when to eat, when to pee and if they are allowed to wipe their butts. If Omatepe can’t wake up and vote against him tonight, Zapatera will give Rob the $1M prize. If anyone from Omatepe wants to retain the chance to win the $1M, they can do so by voting against Rob tonight. If even one or two of you vote against Rob, then if you make the finals you will get Zapatera’s votes and can win this game. If nobody votes against Rob tonight then you all might as well go home now because you will not get our votes and cannot win this game.
“If you don’t vote against Rob tonight but do take him out in a future tribal council and he makes it back into the game, Zapatera will give him the $$ because you didn’t vote against him tonight. If he does not make it back into the game and we have to vote for one of you, your best hope is to have Zapatera’s good will and be someone we will willingly vote for, which means you need to vote against Rob tonight. You have the chance to take control of your own destiny by voting against Rob tonight. Omatepe will still have a 5-4 advantage against Zapatera. You don’t need Rob anymore to keep control of the game. But right now, Zapatera doesn’t respect you and if you can’t show us you came to play the game and have a brain of your own then we will give Rob the $1M. You have to decide right NOW if you want a chance to still win this game yourself or if you came here and slept in the rain with bugs and snakes because you wanted Rob to win. Zapatera controls the jury… and Zapatera has spoken! Jeff, Zapatera is ready to vote.”
I wish I would have thought of that. That would have been genius!
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| 33 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 11:37
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I like it. One small logic flaw: Rob has the HII. If someone makes a public play like that at tribal, Rob could protect himself and play it.
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| 34 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 11:48
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With the presence of the redemption island we are left without individual reward challenges. That is the opportunity if a Zapetera wins reward to pick and choose Rob, Phillip and one of the Robettes to go on the reward with the winner so you can split them out and talk to the rest of the tribe to try to find a crack and see if any are working an end game.
If there was a reward challenge and a Zap wins and chooses their Zap-mates to enjoy the reward with them instead of any attempt at anything strategic, they deserve none of my sympathy.
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| 35 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 14:21
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No flaw in the logic. Yes Rob has the idol for now but I have always felt that a play should be made to get rid of that idol ASAP. Of course, they don't have the numbers right now to force it out but the solution above would certainly make Rob use it. Right now, does anyone else in his cult (and that's what it is) know that he has the HII?
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| 36 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 16:43
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#28
I will take a lull in the action right now over past seasons when the tribe with numbers makes boneheaded move after boneheaded move.
It should get better.
A teaser from Probst's blog: Next week.. one of the most “water cooler” worthy tribal councils in quite some time.
FYI: Natalie, Ashley, and Andrea.
#32
I doubt something like that would work.
It smacks too much like a desperation move.
Voting out Rob now would lessen your chances of making it to the finals.
There should be opportunities to blindside Rob later.
Allowing Zapatera to get back into the game could mean not even making it to the finals.
Zapatera really blew it by dissing Phillip at tribal.
Its possible they could have flipped Phillip but not after you make fun of him to his face.
A missed opportunity.
Of course the demise of Z can be traced back to that decision to throw the challenge.
They won the next challenege but have been losing ever since.
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| 37 | C1-NRB
ID: 401412422
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 22:27
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Omatepe has to wake up and make a move.
Right now if just two of them decided to take Rob out he'd be gone. But they all think he's promised them Final 3.
He really does have a cult working for him. They're all scared to talk to each other because they all think each other will rat them out to Rob and that would be the end of them.
A theory someone in my family came up with- what if the Redemption Island player "returns" as an automatic qualifier for the Final 3? Do they get any jury votes for having Outplayed and Outlasted even though they didn't get a chance to Outwit? Does the answer to that question depend on who it is?
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| 38 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 23:57
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37.....The timing of exactly when the Redemption Island survivor re-enters the game is certainly key and yes, I do think it matters who it is. I'm hoping that the powers-that-be had already made up their mind before the season began on exactly when the final re-entry will be.
In past seasons, I always hated when they brought back players that were believed to be gone for ever (I'm talking about you Lil!) and The Biggest Loser does it every...single...season to my utter dismay.
However, at least this season, Survivor is once again setting the bar by letting all the contestants know before the game began exactly what they could expect, so I see no problem with it this year.
Since there are currently three guys on Redemption Island, are we to believe that the next challenge will be between all three of them? I had assumed that all such challenges would be mano y mano but I'm not sure now. Either way, I think Matt definitely faces his toughest competition to date in Mike but certainly David could advance as well.
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| 39 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 1740422
Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 15:52
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I 100% think eventually the Robbettes are going to turn on Rob and blindside him. He may save himself with the idol.
I can at least appreciate that Rob plays a smart game...does not make stupid moves. Has kept his idol secret. Not much other talent this season...no one else has proven to play the game very well.
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| 40 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 01:44
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Wow.........what's up with Philip now?!? LOL Turning white race into a modified debate on race? Bringing out the "n" word? Really? The dude has some serious, serious issues but as long as he stays in the game, Rob's chances of winning are looking that much better.
Thought Julie's hiding of Philip's trunks was hilarious. Having Probst pretty much make her confess?...not so much. But it was sweet payback of sorts since Philip did steal a ton of their rice.
With Julie's shenanigans notwithstanding, I've always wondered why Survivors don't do things even more crazy than that? (And yes Philip, I did say CRAZY...and no it didn't mean what you think it meant...lol).
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| 41 | weykool
ID: 35349211
Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 02:55
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Not only is Phillip crazy but he is a racist.
When you find racism where there was absolutely no racism...then you need to look no further than yourself to find the racist.
And Shame on Probst for coddling Phillip and trying to justify his racism.
Really pathetic.
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| 42 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 08:54
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I think the reason the Omatepe Six have to keep each other around is they still want to guarantee the numbers when the other tribe is obliterated because the biggest unknown is the return of the Redemption castoff(s). Now they still have six so even if all three castoffs were to be allowed back in the game (as unlikely as that is) and they team up with the remaining two Zappateras, they still have the numbers. It is why they still will knock off Ralph or Steve next episode.
I also think Phillip has guaranteed himself a spot at the final tribal because everyone left wants to sit next to him in front of the jury. I no longer think there is any chance Phillip was putting on an act all this time because of how bad he came off in the whole racial discussion in last night's episode. Even though noone can deny that any African American male 40 or older most likely dealt with racism at some point in their lives and I think Probst was a little bit hypersensitive to that last night to err on the side of giving the benefit of a doubt, it just came off badly and Phillip will not likely get any jury votes.
I agree that at some point there will be a move made against Rob, but he'll likely see it coming and play the HII. I think Rob is even more secure with the fact that a vote-off would just put him in the redemption duels with a chance to return with a vengance, that he has his minions totally in fear of crossing him.
I still wish there were a reward challenge or two after they merged because of the politics involved with the winner selecting a few people to share in the reward.
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| 43 | C1-NRB
ID: 401412422
Tue, Apr 26, 2011, 22:39
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I just caught last week's episode.
I still think Phillip is putting on an act and is staying "in character" the whole time. At one point he "broke character" during one of his confessionals when he laughed about making rice about race but then he jumped right back into character and got all serious about it again.
The contestants go through so many interviews and psych evaluations that there's no way the producers put someone who is legitmately that unbalanced out in the middle of nowhere in a stressful situation with a bunch of strangers. These aren't horror movie producers, they're game show producers.
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| 44 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 16:47
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So now there are four people on redemption island. And six in the regular game. And redemption island has been eliminating one per show. I predict when it gets to three and three they will re-merge. Three on redemption and three in the regular game. Something like that. This is based on no evidence whatsoever.
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| 45 | philflyboy
ID: 206301814
Fri, Apr 29, 2011, 14:57
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[44] I thought of that too but is there enough time left in the season to eliminate all those players and then bring them back again only to have them eliminated again? I think more of them have to go this time around.
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| 46 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Fri, Apr 29, 2011, 16:38
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Maybe they'll have a final showdown on Redemption and only one comes back. The producers probably want to stop the apparently inevitable Rob final, but if they wait until there are three anti-Robs on Redemption and only two pro-Robs in the regular game, I think that's kind of unfair.
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| 47 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Fri, Apr 29, 2011, 18:30
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According to Probst everything they do was decided before the game started.
For instance the challenege where they had to stand on the little pegs had nothing to do with Matt injuring his foot.
My guess is there is a 4 way challenge and the winner re-enters the game.
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| 48 | philflyboy
ID: 206301814
Sun, May 01, 2011, 07:20
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The only way anyone on redemption island has a chance is if the winner of the final duel on the island gets to be part of the final three. If they just enter the game again they will be voted right back off.
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| 49 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, May 05, 2011, 00:34
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Sidenotes from last night's episode:
I was so hoping that Andrea would have won that immunity challenge. But now she gets to snuggle a little bit more with Matt....maybe. LOL
Is Phillip nutso or not? I can't keep all his multiple personalities straight but it seems as if being public enemy #1 was his idea from the start. If so, kudos to you sir.
Did Steve resemble a zombie in the Redemption challenge or what? Man, he sooooooo wanted to leave.
Was Rob dehydrated or feigning it? Never know with that guy. And Probst's description of Rob "literally carrying his family on his back" was outright hilarious. Good call Jeff!
Not sure what to make of Mike's decision to let the ones that voted him out, to have some time with their own family members. Seems to me that he would've been best served to have Matt finally get some enjoyment out of this season. (Although frankly, after hearing Ralph's snide remarks, I'm kinda glad he didn't get to see his friend). Gotta say that if Mike or Matt get to re-enter the game as the third of the three finalists, then they have to be considered a shoo-in to win the whole season. I suspect however that the Redemption Island survivor will be put in the game sooner than that, and that can't be good for them.
What have Ashley and Natalie done at all this season? What a waste of a good show.
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| 50 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, May 05, 2011, 11:55
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There is no doubt in my mind that Phillip is a nut, but he knows he is and plays it up even more, but it won't work. He also thinks too much of himself and no matter what kind of well thought out point he makes at a final tribal, he is not going to get any jury votes, let alone enough to win $1M.
I cannot believe the lack of an end game the Robettes (Grant included) have. They all brought the "strategy" of riding coat tails and flying under the radar to a whole new level. If none of them recognize that Andrea did not see it coming and was touting 'family unity' at tribal last night, and do not recognize that they can be next, then they do not deserve a jury vote either.
Funny, but any of the Omatepe returnees from redemtion seem to have a leg up if they can survive one tribal (?) when they get back in the game get in front of the final jury. They will have the biggest target on their back upon returing.
Imagine if Matt returns and wins. In any other season the guy would be on the back row of the reunion show, and instead would have won making it to three tribal councils where he was voted out of two of them, and lasting only 9 days in the actual game.
AS much as it pains me to say, I think Rob (with the HII still in his pocket) got this.
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| 51 | C1-NRB
ID: 5625339
Thu, May 05, 2011, 12:22
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Whoever the third wheel is in a Final that includes Rob and Phillip will win. Rob and Phillip will both blow the final tribal and the the coattailer will get the "You didn't hurt my feelings" vote.
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| 52 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Thu, May 05, 2011, 13:08
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Final episode on 5/15.
Which means only 2 episodes left.
9 people still have a shot at the million.
The problem I see is there are 3 people on RI that will more than likely be on the jury but are not there for any of the tribal councils.
with HI in pocket Rob is pretty much a lock for the finals.
Can he win?
The fact that his wife already won their million will no doubt be a difficult obstacle to overcome.
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| 53 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, May 12, 2011, 10:17
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AArgh. Are they even trying to strategize???
The Robbettes could have made a bold move last night. Instead of joining Rob and Phillip and ousting Grant, they could have both voted for Rob. Then Rob would have had 2 votes, Grant 2 votes (Grant's vote would not matter). Then on the re-vote Rob and Grant would not vote and they could have taken out Rob 2-1.
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| 54 | C1-NRB
ID: 564251210
Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:30
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My kid had a thought- Rob promised Natalie he would never vote for her. At the very last minute he secretly gives his Hidden Immunity Idol to Grant and tells him he MUST play it. Natalie loses to Grant's single vote against her. Rob keeps his promise to Natalie and locks Grant's vote in for good, regardless if it's a Jury Vote or a Tribal Council vote.
But, as the game is playing out, it looks like they all think they can beat Rob in the Finals because he's "already won": Coming in second + Marrying the winner = Winning. That will be the argument the other two Finalists hope to make. It should be a race to see who gets to sit between Rob and Phillip. That's a no-brainer vote.
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| 55 | JeffG
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ID: 01584348
Mon, May 16, 2011, 08:45
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Sometimes (not often enough) the jury puts their own ego aside and votes for the best player. I was rooting against Rob the entire season but I conceed he deserved this more than anyone ever has in this game over 22 seasons, and it looks like they got it right. I prefer them giving the title to Rob instead of a coat-tailer, and I am sure Rob had in Natalie's head the entire time to get her to go along that sometimes the coattailer wins. Before the votes were read, she said she was confident, and Rob still played her, even then, saying it was out of their hands. "Phile" was lucky to get one vote, although I did like his no holds barred belligerence at the final tribal (I'm sure coached by Rob behind the scenes to act this way). Rob found a perfect heel to sit along side. I'm sure we have not seen the last of Phillip, maybe a future "Survivor: Wackos vs Wallflowers" season. Evil Russell opened the door that he'd consider doing another season, but after being in 3 of the last 4, lets hope we get a little break.
The lawyer dude speaking his closing arguments to the jury was corny, and I do not think anyone needed swaying, but it beats the lectures and other nonsence that some of the other jurists asked. I could have done without him proposing to his girlfriend on live national tv.
At the reunion it was mentioned that Grant stopped returning poor Rob's texts and calls. You think this NFLer liked what he saw on tv each week? Following Rob blindly like a baby chick to a mother hen, until he finally cut him loose? It probably totally emasculated him to his buds.
I cannot say I like the Redemption Island concept, but interestingly enough it did not come into play as both returning contestants were immediatley re-voted off at their next tribal. I do think this season needed some reward challenges post merge where the winner chooses a few others to share the reward and they separate from the rest of the tribe for a few hours.
Season 23 was previewed as "Survivor: South Pacific" and mentioned that there will again be a Redemption Island, and again feature 16 new contestants and two past contestants "seeking redemption".
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| 56 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Mon, May 16, 2011, 10:25
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I never really liked Rob, but the fact that he managed to bring the dumbest coat tailer (Natalie) and the most irritating contestant (Phillip) to the finals shows he's truly the greatest survivor player ever.
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| 57 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 550421116
Mon, May 16, 2011, 12:44
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That was definitely a lesson on how to win Survivor. Rob controlled his tribe and the game until the end. Glad the jury got it right and did not go the vindictive route.
I will still never understand why people on the jury want to make everything so personal and do not want to be reminded that it is a game. I find it so false that many on the jury want to play the I would never stab anyone in the back card...I would never play it that way...every last one of them would play it that way if given the opportunity. There really is no choice in the end game but to blind side alliance members and blind side people you were close to at some points in the game. Only 2 or 3 can make it to the jury...so allies at some point are going to get voted out.
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| 58 | C1-NRB
ID: 564251210
Mon, May 16, 2011, 13:04
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When will players realize coat tailers stopped winning after the travesty of season 2?
Overall this was a good season with a good concept. I think they need to tweek the Redemption Island angle so the returning player doesn't immediately get dumped again. There's a reason they were run off the first time. What could possibly have changed?
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| 59 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Mon, May 16, 2011, 14:42
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Was happy to see Rob win.
He played a textbook game and deserved to win.
Right after Andrea came back it would have been very interesting if the 3 girls had voted off Phile.
Even if Rob wins the final immunity he has to take 2 of them and they would have been able to point out that they went against Rob and therefore deserved the money.
All of the jury crybababies were annoying but the worst was Jill.
"Would your mother/wife be proud of you"?
Hell yeah they would, I made it to the final 3 in a game.
Would have been great if Natalie would have said she talked it over with her mom and her mom said she was so proud of her.
It looked like one of the returning contestants was Matt.
The other looked like a female, my guess would be the Russellette, Stephanie.
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