Posted by: weykool
- [138481617] Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 14:10
Is anyone watching? We all knew it would not be the same without Simon but I didnt expect it would be so difficult to watch. Adding J-lo and Tyler was a huge upgrade from Ellen and Kara but the show is still lacking someone to come out and say "You suck". Which of the judges are going to step up and be critical when criticizm is needed to challenge the contestants to be better?
Of course, like they do every season we are being told this is one of the most talented groups ever. In the end it comes down to how exceptional the top 3 or 4 are, and not how many "decent" singers they send to Hollywood. The first week there were 90 tickets and last night there was another 50. In past seasons if they gave out 30 they were being very generous. I'm still going to watch but they need to make big improvements if the show is going to survive.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 02:09
That's a bit premature. If Jacob, Stefano, or Paul make it to the finals then I will agree with you, but any of the other five would be a good finals.
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weykool
ID: 7348811 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 12:48
So far it has been 5 females sent home. The judges did use the save on Casey. I wonder if the judges could get a do over if they would have rather have used the save on Pia. Pia was easily the best singer. It seems there is something wrong with the voting system. Oh well.....maybe the X Factor will restore some credibility to the reality/talent competitions.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 13:56
43....Undoubtedly there IS something wrong about the voting system but for now, it is what it is. Every year somebody who can sing gets bumped in favor of somebody who isn't as an accomplished singer. We all know that this isn't a true "singing contest"; it's a popularity contest disguised as a singing contest.
Yes, I'm sure the judges most likely wished they could have saved their save instead of using it on Casey but nobody thought Pia wouldn't be in the top 3 or so. Nobody.
And that leads back to what I said in 41....the judges, quite simply, have to judge better and let America know who they really like and offer fair critique to every contestant. But they don't. As such, America has to judge and although we get it right the majority of the time, Thursday's outing showed that this wasn't one of those times.
It's a young girls voting system right now and as such, this year's ladies have no chance to win Idol. None.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 18:14
I've heard that argument and then I wonder how Kelly, Carrie, Fantasia, and Jordin all won or how Bowersox, McPhee, and DeGarmo made the finals. I'm thinking this show has always been and will always be dominated by female voters, but if it truly was only young girls voting for heart-throb boys, how does Taylor Hicks or David Cook win idol?
Pia was the most technical singer on the show and the least expressive. While I enjoyed listening to her, the truth is she was pretty boring and I can't imagine her ever putting out an album that would wow anyone or going to see her in concert and actually be entertained. I'm sad to see her go already, while there are other singers I don't enjoy as much still on the show, but this happens every season...heck, every week. Thousands of people swear they are going to quit watching the show when their favorite gets voted off every week.
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ChicagoTRS
ID: 1550160 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 23:25
It does not surprise me Pia got eliminated...it surprises me it was this early but I do not see what fan base she appeals to except the horny male vote which is probably a minority. Have you ever voted?
She is a beautiful singer but too robotic and precise...not enough emotion or connection in her performances.
This is a very tough season. Everyone of them can sing...think about past seasons top tens and how many god awful singers made it that far. It does not help that the judges pretty much praise every one.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Apr 08, 2011, 23:30
There are a lot of good singers this year and Pia was the best. She was not only technically the best but she has big and full voice with range. I think she could sing about anything well. It was too early to say whether or not I think she should still win it when it got down to the final two, but through this week, I still had her as the one to beat. In past years there were so many people who couldn't cut it, that it seemed to be a lot easier. I wouldn't even been as miffed if people like Paul were already gone. No way should he still be there, IMO.
These are not judges, they are making their $7M+ (a lot more for Randy) to be famous and make comments to give the show some supposed credibility. You could take a music professor and pay them a lot less who would know a lot more and be more critical I think.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Sat, Apr 09, 2011, 12:51
45, 46 and 47....agree with your thoughts completely. But now that Pia is gone, what are the chances of the rest of the 8? Here's I look at it:
I don't see any way, form or fashion that Haley or Lauren win it since they're the only girls left. Wouldn't be surprised to see them both bounced in the next two weeks. That leaves 6.
Paul? Ugh, no thanks. Stefano? Has been in the bottom three too much already, so I suspect he doesn't have a rabid fan base. That's leaves 4.
Casey and Jacob have already been in the bottom 3 and Jacob's recent remarks regarding looking in the mirror may come back to haunt him. Casey may surprise as I suspect his fan club may have re-established themselves. Nevertheless, if he makes it to the top 3, I'd be surprised.
That leaves James and Scotty as the final two standing. Two extreme spectrums of the Idol rainbow. Two diverse voices with two diverse genres. Everybody knows Scotty's going country and he may do very well there. But is he "the" American Idol? James has overcome a lot in his life; has a very decent sound even if he is the poor man's Adam Lambert. But will America endear him as their American Idol? Right now, I'd say yes. IMO, James is the favorite to win it all.
What do ya'll think?
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Apr 11, 2011, 22:08
48: There are several really good singers but Pia was the only one I thought was "Idol Worthy." Not sure that means what it used to mean. I heard Pia was signed with Interscope immediately after she got booted. Since Interscope runs Idol and they are supposedly rushing her to get an album out--she will be the first one out and she came in 9th place. You don't have to win Idol to win Idol! ;)
I don't really care for the other two women at all. Doesn't matter that women aren't getting the votes. They can sing, obviously, but they aren't better than the women. I agree that it probably comes down to James and Casey at this point. I think Casey is better technically than "the poor man's Adam Lambert," so I guess I'll say he's got a slight edge at this point.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 19:14
I actually like Haley and Lauren better than I ever liked Pia. Haley has Bluesy-Rock sound and Lauren has a Country-Rock sound. Pia has a oversing-every-balad sound. We seen a Pia on this show (at least one) every single season.
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Skidazl
ID: 56327417 Wed, Apr 13, 2011, 20:06
My wife confirmed why Pia did not get the votes, when she said she was not that surprised, most likely only the men were voting for her.
TB, I agree with you, Pias are a dime a dozen, sort of. Haley, imo, really stands out with her deep bluesy sound and is my personal favorite. I have to admit, to me Lauren is just another Kerry Underwood, but without the "whole package"
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 01:20
Don't like Paul; never have, never will. Scotty is as consistent as anybody's been. Casey is a wild card, with the emphasis on wild. Didn't care for the song...not my cup of tea. Haley does nothing for me. All night, Jacob looked like somebody stole his lunch money; I still don't care for his runs but the last few notes were pretty darn good. James not listening to that arrogant producer...good! But I'm not much into heavy metal so what do I know. LOL
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 16:01
Perhaps it was missing Pia this week but I was less than impressed with all of the performances.
When they suggested Bridge Over Trouble water for Jacob I was thinking he could hit that song out of the park.....but it fell far short.
Haley had good moments with Call Me but other parts were really lacking.
Paul sauntering around like is getting to be unbearable to watch.
Scottie and Lauren were OK but nothing that will be remembered.
I didnt get the song choice from Casey. Will there be that many people lining up to see a concert of someone playing a standup bass?
Stephano was typical Stephano. Trying desperately to oversing the lyrics and make a conection with the audience.
Not sure what to make of James. Not really a heavy metal fan but I could see him selling out a tour. The screaming is really getting overdone and needs to be toned down a lot.
As for the judges it keeps getting worse. Stop telling us these are amazing performances. Some were OK but others were downright horrible. When they tell us crap is good it makes me question if the decent performances are not crap as well.
Hoping its Paul's turn to go home this week.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 19:26
I am ranking them in the order from liked most to disliked:
Haley Stefano Lauren Scotty Casey James Jacob Paul
Funny that the only contestant to get any kind of criticism is a female, but they don't want to lose any females. Haley sounded great to me again and I could see myself listening to her music post-Idol.
Stefano had one of his best performances to date and has progressed more than most of the contestants this season. His stage mannerism is so much better and while I do agree that he tends to over-sing most of the song a bit, he still did a great job.
Lauren sounded great. Amazes me that I seem to like her so much more than most other people here. I do lean towards female singers who have range and I think she can sing just about any song.
Scotty was as good as every other performance. Paste in any previous comments...yawn.
I am a Casey fan and think if he ever has a concert, somewhere near the middle of it he can slow it down and perform a number like that, but bad choice for Idol. I thought it was a cool rendition of the song, but I am seriously concerned with the vote tonight and him sticky around.
If I could give James bonus points for singing a song I loved growing up and having the greatest Idol moment ever (for me) when Zakk Wylde showed up, I would. BUT, he mostly just screeched the song in a performance that wouldn't be good enough to hit the radar during the hair band era. Hair metal is dead. RIP.
Jacob and Paul you could copy and paste most of my past comments. Both were terrible. I'm thinking Paul bottom three for sure and hopefully going home.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Thu, Apr 14, 2011, 23:59
Paul is FINALLY gone! WooHoo!!!!!!!!
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ChicagoTRS
ID: 1740422 Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 15:46
Figured it was Paul's time to go. He did well to make it this far. Probably got enough exposure to make a legitimate career. I think he is the kind of singer that if he sticks to his niche he will excel.
This season is just much more talented than past seasons...I could see any of these 7 (+Pia) having made the finals any other season.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 01:38
Hoping that Jacob, Stefano and Lauren are in the bottom 3 with Stefano finally being voted off.
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katietx
ID: 301121518 Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 18:04
Only one that really wowed me last night was Casey. I still love Jacob, but unfortunately don't think America will vote him to the final two like they did Reuben.
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 20:53
Katie: Are you saying America wont vote for Jacob because he is black...or that they wont vote for him because he isnt the best singer? 3 of the 9 winners have been African American so that cant be it.
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Skidazl
ID: 56327417 Sun, Apr 24, 2011, 13:21
About time, now just get rid of Jacob and I ill be happy with all the remaining contestants, with Haley topping the list, but most likely not going to win it...
Rumor has it that Casey and Haley are seeing each other(Caseys reaction to her being safe this week sort of confirmed it), I wonder how a Haley/Casey finals would affect that...
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, Apr 28, 2011, 13:20
Best song of the night for me was James. Worst song of the night was the screaming match between James and Jacob.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Thu, May 05, 2011, 00:36
Last night's results: 1. James 2. Scottie 3. Alaina 4. Haley 5. Jacob
Strangely enough, I hope that this is also the season top 5 results. James deserves to win!
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, May 05, 2011, 13:13
Seems like the air has been let out of the show ever since Pia was voted out. I could chalk this up to my own bias but the post/interest here has declined as well. It is getting a little annoying to see the contestants buying all of the judge's hype for them. They are all good singers.....but I dont see any great singers in the bunch.
I liked James and Haley last night. Hoping Jacob goes home tonight....he is such a diva.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, May 05, 2011, 13:56
63 agreed
Haley had the best song of the night. That last song was superb. Jacob was just bad.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Thu, May 05, 2011, 18:25
I liked Scotty and Haley last night. Haley is still my favorite, but Scotty continues to grow on me. Lauren was okay. James first song was terrible. Pitchy, screechy, just terrible. His second song was better until the end, where he had to yell some more. Jacob should have went home weeks ago.
I concur with the waning interest in this season. For me, it's not because Pia went and not even because Casey went home last week, who I did look forward to watching weekly. It's because I hear the same bs from the judges each week and the performers almost all do the same thing every week. James, Haley, and Casey have brought something new here and there but not enough to make the show that interesting.
Anyone else been watching The Voice?
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, May 05, 2011, 19:18
Watching some of The Voice. The gimmick is interesting but now that the "blind auditions" are over where do they go now?
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Fri, May 06, 2011, 00:42
Yeah, The Voice started off nicely and had a solid premise but then they "ran out of singers"? Really? That's idiotic! Apparently, TPTB's didn't allow for the fact that all the "coaches" (their word, not mine) wouldn't field a team of eight before all the auditions were over. How absurd! Having to allow for second chances really diminishes this show for my liking.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Wed, May 11, 2011, 01:47
I just like to see people sing, so enjoy it. I don't care much for listening to Christine A. talk and found myself doing a lot of fast forwarding tonight, but did enjoy the performances. I'm a little disappointed in Blake's choice tonight. I'm guessing next season, any non-country singer is going to think twice before picking him if they have a choice. The country guy is okay, but I thought the other guy outsang him by a wide margin.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Wed, May 11, 2011, 17:18
TB, totally agree about Blake's decision and I pretty much FF through everything but the performances and CA cleavage...LOL
Definitely felt Ceelo had the toughest decision...
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TB
ID: 1001623 Wed, May 11, 2011, 23:38
Ceelo had the toughest choice and I thought CA had the easiest...send them both home...lol, but seriously the one girl who did go home was terrible.
Back to Idol chat - I thought Haley's first song was amazing and her second unbelievable. I can't believe the crap both J-lo and Randy gave her and I don't believe the spin they tried after the 2nd song. I'd almost think I am tone deaf and missing what they are hearing, but the crowd cheered pretty good and most of the music I listen to seems to be liked by many other people.
There are parts of James singing I enjoy and then there are more parts I don't. I absolutely can't imagine him putting out an album that will sell. Seems like a crowd favorite and great chance to make the finals.
Lauren has very nice parts about her voice, but I didn't think we heard them that much tonight. Felt flat on the Martina song and a little spazzy on the Elvis song. She will be going home and I will call it the Elvis Curse on the top four.
Scotty - you probably already know what I am going to say because I absolutely knew what kind of song he was going to sing and how it was going to sound. He still comes off corny to me when he isn't singing a country ballad and making love to my television with his eyebrows. Darkhorse for going home for offending Gaga fans.
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Thu, May 12, 2011, 01:39
The problem as I see it with Haley's first song is that it wasn't that well known (at least to me anyway). She sang it well but I don't suspect many people had a connection to it since they are unfamiliar with it. Even though it was inspiring to her, it wasn't to me. Yes, the judges were a tad bit harsh but I applaud them for that. I think that Randy and Jennifer were right. (And I no longer care what Steven's comments are. His comments are simply a complete waste of time on anybody....All he says is that everybody is beautiful, every song is sung beautifully, every arrangement was beautiful, etc. ad nauseum Not one helpful critique has he made this year---not one!) Meanwhile, Haley's last song, though, was downright nasty....in a good way. However, I think she's definitely in the bottom two this week.
James was okay. We know what he is and he'll be safe. He's Randy's Crowned King for this year and I think his comments lend a greater weight than either JLo's or Tyler's.
Scotty is country-born, country-bred and a sure footed country star. Yes, he gets a little overboard with his facial expressions but his voice is solid---as is his huge fan support. I don't think anybody expected him and Gaga to see eye to eye so his comments are pretty harmless. Besides, if anything, it was Scotty fans that Gaga offended, not the other way around.
Lauren was good, although not spectacular. But since I don't see either James or Scotty in trouble this week, it'll be the two ladies in the bottom two.
Though I could be wrong, I can't believe that Haley has anywhere near a fanbase as Lauren has. As such, I think that Haley is toast!
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weykool
ID: 14471123 Thu, May 12, 2011, 02:20
I thought James was great for the first song but could have done without the screaming on the 2nd.
Haley was much better than the judges gave her credit.
Scotty was not as good as the judges seemed to think.
Lauren was off her game and really had 2 sub-par performances.
I cant help but wondering if Randy keeps saying "In it to win it" just to hedge his bets if Idol gets canceled. I would be very easy for him to put together an audition tape for the game show on NBC Minute to win it.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Thu, May 12, 2011, 11:50
HAHA on the minute to win it comment, good call...
Randy is an idiot, imo. How do you rip all over someone for song choice when that is the song that inspires them. Yeah, she could have picked a more mainstream song more people knew, but it was Michael Jackson and he has probably the biggest fanbase ever, so to me, just because I didn't know that song doesn't millions and millions of other people didn't...
Is it me or is Haley the only person J-ho ever says negative comments about? What is up with that?
And worst of all, what the heck did gaga do to her cheeks? Freak!
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Fri, May 13, 2011, 00:15
James is out??? First Pia, now this....ugh! Unbelievable that Durbin ends up in 4th place. 4th place! Guess America sees it different than I do.
But Jordin sure looked good didn't she? ;>)
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Fri, May 13, 2011, 00:27
Agreed about Jordin...
Also agreed with America, just judging by last night's performances. I personally thought James was the worst last night. Nobody, except some little short guy from the philippines, can do Steve Perry justice, imo
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Bond, James Bond Leader
ID: 04352469 Fri, May 13, 2011, 23:56
William Hung?.... ; > )
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Sat, May 14, 2011, 00:16
hahaha, good one Mr. Bond...
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TB
ID: 1001623 Tue, May 17, 2011, 19:17
I thought I posted last week after results, but guess not. When Lauren was safe, I thought for sure Haley was going home. When Haley was announced safe, you could tell by the look on his face that James knew he was gone.
Scotty is going to win this.
And, I agree about Jordin.
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, May 19, 2011, 14:40
As far as who was best by round I agreed with J-LO and Randy. Rd1. Haley Rd2. Scottie Rd3. Lauren
Overall I would have to give the night to Haley. Scottie and Lauren both had one song that wasnt that good. (Lauren's 1st and Scottie's Last) Haley was solid on all 3 songs. Hoping it is Lauren going home tonight.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Thu, May 19, 2011, 18:52
I felt that Jimmy's and the judge's song choices for Scotty and Lauren favored Lauren too much. both songs were not a stretch for her and were very easy and safe, imo. both fit into her registry to a T, so neither song pushed her...
Scotty's last 2 songs were not a good fit. The first was originally sung by a girl(???) and his second was very boring, imo. Yet, I still think he moves on. He is the only one of the 3 that will sell a bunch of albums.
But, Haley won the night hands down. Let's just hope the public gets it right. Lauren should be going home, even if Scotyy did get saboutaged a bit, imho. Haley may come out of the blue and surprise everybody next week, assuming she doesn't get railroaded tonight...
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weykool
ID: 444231621 Fri, May 20, 2011, 00:10
Lauren in the finals....UGH. As bad as Taylor Hicks? If not a close 2nd. Scottie will do well in Nashville.
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TB
ID: 1001623 Fri, May 20, 2011, 00:43
I give all those kids an A for yesterday's performance. Everyone of them is deserving and would be a great idol. I am still positive Scotty wins it all, but more because of his fan base.
My girl, Haley. Led Zeppelin, Stevie Nicks, and then Alanis Morissette. Nobody has ever has a night like she had and nobody will ever convince me there's been a better one-night idol performance than what she had last night. A little sad to see her not make the finals, but I never expected to see her make this far anyway. I own some Carrie and some Kelly and some Daughtry. The next idol whose music I buy will for sure be some Haley.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Fri, May 20, 2011, 01:22
WOW!!!
I call shenanigans...
Lauren, really? There is no way Scotty doesn't take this, so no need to watch. I guess I now have no plans next Tuesday or Wednesday, may as well take in a couple angels games...
Weak...
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weykool
ID: 444231621 Fri, May 20, 2011, 06:58
may as well take in a couple angels games... Home games? Whereabouts do you live? I'm about 30 mins from the big A.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Fri, May 20, 2011, 15:10
Brea, season tickets actually. You?
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GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Fri, May 20, 2011, 15:14
I'm in Camarillo, 1-1/2 depending on Traffic.
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Fri, May 20, 2011, 15:57
Lake Forest, work in Santa Ana. Been a long time Angel fan. Fregosi, Sandy Alomar Sr, Bobby Bonds, Clyde Wright, Alex Johnson, Nolan and Tanana. I still have fond memories of listening to Dick Endberg on my transistor radio saying OH MY! and my favorite after the occasional win: "And the halo will shine tonight!!!!". Let me know if you cant make a game and want to sell your tickets.
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Skidazl
ID: 264181116 Fri, May 20, 2011, 16:14
Let me know if you want to go to a game with another baseball fanatic.There are a lot of games my wife can't go to and I need to fill that other seat. :-)
I would be up for that. E-mail me and we can exchange numbers.
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weykool
ID: 343561414 Thu, May 26, 2011, 13:11
Ho-hum Scotty wins. Overall the finale was a bit of a yawner. Will be interesting to see if either of them will be able to sustain anything beyond a 1st album. Currently I wouldnt buy an album or go to a concert, but they are both very young and could develop if they get in with the right people.
Was nice of Idol to put together the audition tape for Randy's next show: Minute to Win it.
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Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Thu, May 26, 2011, 13:40
Caught this last night on Jimmy Kimmel: How many Idol winners can you name?