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Subject: Survivor-Season 23-South Pacific
Posted by: philflyboy
- [46651155] Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 07:24
The castaways video is now up on the cbs website. The still haven't announced who the two returning people are going to be but the big new person is they have a nephew of Russell on the show. Should make for an interesting season. For his own good I hope he keeps that a secret!! |
| 1 | JeffG
ID: 307392321
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:39
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Other contestants include a legal pot dealer who is also a pro poker player, some reality tv vets (Nashville Star and a behind the scenes at Miss America contestant) a Harvard Law student, a med school student, a cattle rancher, a funeral director, and a Playboy cover model.
Web rumors indicate returning contestants will be Coach (Tocantins and Heroes vs Villains) and and Ozzie (Cook Islands and Fans vs Favorites).
Redemption Island is back but according to Probst on EW.com all duels will be one on one. No more group duels. Also the hidden immunity idol clues will be hidden since everyone now knows to look in the reward baskets.
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| 2 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 14:35
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Any thoughts on the season premiere?
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| 3 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 14:49
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Tribes seem to be evenly matched.
Looks to be a very competetive season.
Thus far didnt see anyone who looks to be annoying. (I know give em time)
The water around the islands seem to be calm enough for some water challenges as opposed to the lame man made pool overe the last couple seasons.
Looking forward to a good season.
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| 4 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 22:28
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You're right, nobody seemed outright annoying off the bat except maybe Coach, but even he seemed mellowed down from what I remember. Maybe because he was so humbled in the first challenge, even though it looked like a team loss to me with all the counterproductive yelling...
Looking forward to a good season and I loved how Ozzy just had everybody relax and enjoy wheree they are...
BTW, @weykool, I lost your phone # and email somehow. Can you send it to me again? I needed a 6th person to go an Angel game a couple weekends ago and couldn't find your info. Just send me an email. I have 3 more games in the last week and I doubt my wife will want to go to all of them.
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| 5 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 22:29
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For some reason, I couldn't post with my email in the last post, so here it is skidazl@hotmail.com
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| 6 | weykool
ID: 198181523
Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 00:18
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Its weykool@aol.com
Looking forward to it.
They still control their own destiny but they need to prove that they can beat Texas.
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| 7 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 15:56
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Well, still depends on if the wife wants to go to all 3...
Yeh, if they make it, not sure they'll make it out of the first round...
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| 8 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 538212214
Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 15:30
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Pretty decent season so far.
Ozzy finding the idol was huge. He has been as solid as expected so far.
Coach has been much improved over past seasons...definitely more modest...he handled the first day like a dragon slayer going from on the outs to leader of the majority alliance.
The lil Hantz has been interesting. Started off solid and seemed like he had a good plan and the opposite of Russell but showing the Hantz demons already. Next episode looks interesting.
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| 9 | C1-NRB
ID: 564251210
Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 16:11
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I think the player to watch is Albert. When he straightened out Stacey and Christine regarding Coach's loyalty it showed he really understands the game and how it is to be played. He didn't know whose bacon he was pulling out of the fire, but he did it anyway and pulled Coach out from under the bus at the same time (after he stepped out in front of it.)
Back to the earlier thread hijack- Now that the magic number is three I'm comfortable saying I've got two sets of four tickets to the first Rangers home playoff game. It's easy to have faith when your team is leading the division, though.
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| 10 | weykool
ID: 343561414
Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 16:48
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Little Hantz is all over the map.
After he tried to get "Delilah" voted off (and earning the scorn of millions of young male viewers) he didnt even vote for her.
He isnt going to reveal his identity and then tells coach.
He promises to play it straight up with coach and then lies to him to get Mikalah voted off.
He is far more likable than his uncle but he needs to stop being such a moron and stay focused.
Not really liking the suk up dweeb but it seems he isnt long for the game.
Living with him on an island 27/7 would drive me crazy.
Just the few minutes we see him on the show is more than I can take already.
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| 11 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Fri, Sep 23, 2011, 15:35
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The hantz kid is very troubled, even more so than I think Russell was, but in a different way. His whole mikayla thing is weird. Did he not know there were going to be good looking women on the show wearing very little? If he has an issue keeping it in his pants, he never should have come on the show...
And agreed about the cochran kid, he's gone next time they lose, if they lose...
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| 12 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 538212214
Fri, Sep 23, 2011, 16:15
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I agree this Hantz in some ways seems more crazy than Russell. Russell sort of knew who he was and knew he was a bad guy and did not really try to hide it. Lil Hantz looks more like he has poor impulse control almost to the point of being dangerous and definitely has some serious demons.
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| 13 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Sat, Sep 24, 2011, 11:21
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Demons? Lil Hantz is just really horny to the point of being creepy.
Granted a lot of it was the way they edited it, but the way he was just staring at her time after time (when she wasn't even flaunting/flirting) and then had the nerve to call her the second coming of Parvati - it's laughable.
Lil Hantz wife shouldn't be much longer if she knows what's good for her.
I agree that Albert looks like he has the ability to be an all-around threat so far.
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| 14 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 16:21
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Definitely Albert is going to be around for a while, he's playing well strategically and he will dominate in challenges. He was ticked about slipping last night, probably would have been there with hantz and Jim if not for that...
Speaking of Hantz, he was pretty impressive in the challenge, but he is so conflicted in his mind, no idea which way he will be going. He is pretty short on time, imho.
Not sure where Cochran thinks he has a chance blindsiding Alysse as the numbers are still 4-3 and I don't think any of the "Pretty" alliance will falter. YET.
Finally, I think sending Stacy away was a bad move and I think Coach's tribe is just digging their own grave and made their team that much weaker. Edna is annoying and weak and should have gone....
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| 15 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 22:53
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Come on, let's go give her a hug.
Weak.
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| 16 | weykool
ID: 59501220
Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 12:20
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Decent episode last night.
Ozzy: In the off chance we lose the next immunity challenge just how do you spell Coch-Train?
Ozzy making his off handed comment about Benji getting rid of Albert was a major turning point for his tribe.
Everyone knows you cant trust anyone but when you say it it somehow becomes real.
I loved tribal when Probst asked Cochran if he had ever been picked last for soccer.
You could see the wheels turning on just how does he admit he has never even been picked for soccer, last or otherwise.
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| 17 | WiddleAvi
ID: 137361215
Sat, Oct 15, 2011, 10:11
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Don't understand those 2 people who decided they wanted to sorta stay loyal to ozzie and not vote for elyse but help get rid of her. Do they really think that ozzie will be ok with them since they didn't actually vote for her ?
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| 18 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Sat, Oct 15, 2011, 13:11
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That's what I was thinking, too, Widdle. Ozzie is gonna be ticked either way and there is a good chance he may be gone sooner than later, though for strength of the tribe, later would be better.
I loved how coch-train described him as a middle aged ozzie, what is he, 30?
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| 19 | Nuclear Gophers
ID: 32943165
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 06:43
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I am starting to think little hantz is playing the game real well and this is all an act. Hes playing the take me with you to the final 3, no one will vote for me just like his uncle but in another way. just my 2 cents.
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| 20 | WiddleAvi
ID: 137361215
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 07:57
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NG - I think you are giving him too much credit. I don't think he is that smart.
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| 21 | Nuclear Gophers
ID: 28923167
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 08:23
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Maybe not but he has a good coach.
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| 22 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 16:38
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RE: Little Hantz, remember, we see a ton more(and less) than the survivors see of that kid. Just sayin'
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| 23 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 1550160
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 19:10
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I am not sure why they do not blind side Ozzie at that point in the game?
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| 24 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 21:55
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Chicago, I think it was to keep the strength of the tribe to win challenges. If they kicked him off, they would most likely lose out, imho...
He'll get his...
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| 25 | C1-NRB
ID: 23781518
Tue, Oct 18, 2011, 00:41
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I am not sure why they do not blind side Ozzie at that point in the game?
It's one thing to get rid of his playmate, it's quite another to go after him. And Keith and the girl might be more inclined to sqeal to Ozzie if his name was the one brought up rather than Elyse. Furthermore, if he gets sent to Redemption Island, there's a great chance he survives and reappears. And don't think for a minute that he wouldn't sign on the dotted line with what's left of the other tribe.
By keeping Ozzie around they can keep tabs on him a little more and drop him at the last second. In the previews it sure looks like he's not giving it 100% in that wheelbarrow challenge and trying to make Cochrane look like the weak link he so obviously is. Just speculation, but old Ozzie would've/could've handled that whole wheelbarrow by himself.
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| 26 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 538212214
Wed, Oct 19, 2011, 16:12
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I disagree...if you are going to make Ozzie an enemy cut the head off the snake when you have the chance. It is still early enough that he would have to survive quite a few redemption challenges to get back in the game. Cutting his concubine basically makes Ozzie an instant enemy and he is in the middle of your tribe...seems a worse situation to me.
I think once you make Ozzie an enemy there is much more of a chance that he sabotages challenges than help you win them.
I think the way to handle it is you bring up Elyse to test the waters and if you get agreement then you say why not make a "big move" and go after Ozzie instead.
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| 27 | JeffG
ID: 15859720
Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 21:02
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Wow. Boldest move ever. I'm not an Ozzy fan but hats off to the guy. I just hope someone can pick off the very annoying Coach and Brandon soon. For the first time this season I can't wait until next weeks episode.
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| 28 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Wed, Oct 26, 2011, 23:32
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I'm about sick of all the religious stuff this season. Is this Survivor or 100 Huntley Street?
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| 29 | weykool
ID: 149452623
Thu, Oct 27, 2011, 00:45
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Boldest or dumbest move ever?
I went back and looked at the episode where Christine and Stacy told the red team about Benjamin running everything and calling the shots.
The two representatives from the red team were the two girls still left in Ozzy's tribe.
They should have known that Christine could be turned against her old tribe.
So many things can go wrong with this bold plan:
1. Ozzy Loses.
2. Ozzy wins and there is no merge. His tribe loses the next challenge and Cochran plays the idol and sends someone else to redemption.
3. Ozzy wins and gets back in the game and Cochran keeps the idol.
Too many things can go wrong that I have to say dumbest move ever.
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| 30 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Thu, Oct 27, 2011, 02:55
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Yep, dumb. Send Cochrane and whoever wins the challenge comes back at the merge and joins your tribe. Can they not tell the other tribe and Christine are not exactly friendly?
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| 31 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 538212214
Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 11:21
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Probably has been dumber moves in Survivor but this one ranks up there imo. But probably works out for the tribe because I think Ozzy is the right vote out at some point because you have to know he will be one of the first with the potential to turn given a merge.
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| 32 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Thu, Nov 03, 2011, 21:19
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Best episode ever, imho. I love that cochran turned. The way those guys treat him, they deserved it. He is still an outsider on Upolu, but he got some sweet revenge.
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| 33 | WiddleAvi
ID: 137361215
Thu, Nov 03, 2011, 22:18
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Agreed that it was a great episode (not sure best episode ever). But so many bad decisions. Cochran flipping does not help him at all. He moved from #6 down the list on his tribe to #7 on the other tribe. Had he let it gone to rocks he has about 10% chance of leaving and 66% chance thats it someone from other tribe of leaving. Giving the hidden immunity idol to that girl (can't remember her name) made no sense either. Obviously the other tribe will try and vote out one of the stronger players. And Ozzie's over the top acting on the redemption island duel was pathetic and ruined any chance of the idea actually working. Had they actually played and acted right maybe it could have worked.
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| 34 | weykool
ID: 271037412
Fri, Nov 04, 2011, 13:37
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Enjoyed the episode.
Cochran flipping made little sense.
Not only is he now 7th instead of 6th but he has zero chance of getting any votes from his tribe should he make it that far.
He would also need to turn on Upolu at some point.
In his defense, survivor is a cruel game.
Sometimes your only moves are a choice between crappy and horrible.
Whitney was the one who got the Idol.
Rick got the same number of votes at tribal as words he has spoken the entire season.
Will be interesting to see if they can get someone from Upolu to flip as suggested in the previews for next week.
Would be too early for a flip/blindside but you never know.
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| 35 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Fri, Nov 04, 2011, 21:55
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Totally disagree that cochran made a bad move. He may be 7 for now, but he made serious brownie points with Upolu. Who's to say he can't move up from #7, he was definitely #6 in Savaii, and he knew that. His slate is still clean in Upolu and they have gained respect for his move.
Yes, he doesn't know it, but if he plays his cards right, he can move up past Edna and Brandon pretty easily from what they've shown us.
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| 36 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Sat, Nov 05, 2011, 13:27
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Cochran made a good move in my opinion. He may be the guy to take close to the finals with you. Not gonna win any challenges. (He went from a situation where not being good was bad for the others. Now it's a good thing.) Not going to get any votes from his old tribe. No particular bonds or alliances with the Upolu folks. Other than screwing his old tribe, he hasn't done anything worthy of winning.
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| 37 | Nuclear Gophers
ID: 45105264
Sun, Nov 06, 2011, 05:52
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Coach wins if he takes little nephew and cocktrain to the the final 3.
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| 38 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Wed, Nov 09, 2011, 23:58
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Hate almost everyone left.
2 of 3 in the second challenge should have just done a "Whoops!" and dropped the ball 1 second into the challenge. As in "Whoops!" nobody gets to eat.
They are going to be voted out anyways, so might as well screw the other tribe over as much as possible.
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| 39 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 16:03
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Ho-hum, getting a bit boring now, Ozzy is so dominant at challenges, it's annoying though how cocky he is about it. Go Albert!
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| 40 | weykool
ID: 5010141515
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 17:03
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Two boring episodes in a row and next week is the Thanksgiving recap with deleted scenes.
In past seasons we have blasted players who didn't stick to the plan of taking out the other tribe.
The unfortunate result of sticking with the plan is it is very boring.
Will be interesting to see what happens going forward.
Can Coach pick his way through and beat Sophie and Albert?
Albert and Sophie missed their chance at taking control of the game.
Brandon, Edna, and Rick are all brain dead and couldnt hatch a plan if their life depended on it.
Cochran has no say and can only hope he gets picked as someone you want to be sitting next to in the finals.
Any two of those four should be in the finals with the eventual winner.
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| 41 | WiddleAvi
ID: 22111120
Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 21:01
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Nothing changes. Boring season stays boring. No one making any moves even when it seeems like it would make sense to make a move. Coach seems to be the only one who wants to win. Everyone else seems ok with the status quo and thinking they will make a move 'later'. Albert & Sophie seem to be the only one to talk strategy but seem afraid to actually DO anything. Oh well, hopegfuly next season is better. Only thing to look forward to is hopefully they bring russell to the reunion and he can talk about what a terrible game his nephew played. And I dread Coach in the finals preaching how it's possible to play this game wih integrity.
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| 42 | weykool
ID: 131146211
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 00:38
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The only thing worse than Coach in the finals will be listening to Brandon cry about "doing the right thing". Ugh
Edna finally wakes up, Rick still sleeping, and Cochran getting what he deserves for backstabbing his tribe.
I think Sophie was right.
There is a reason people bully Cochran.
He knows he is annoying and tries to do his best to be as annoying as possible.
Who tries to pick up girls by telling them the time you dueced you pants in kindergarten, or that you prank called girls by asking them if they wanted to swap sperm?
Instead of redemption island they should have named it mental patient island.
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| 43 | Skidazl
ID: 264181116
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 14:10
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I know it won't happen, but I would love to see the look on Ozzie's face if Cochran beats him on Redemption Island...
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| 44 | JeffG
ID: 307392321
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 23:10
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This season has been as up and down as Brandon, mostly down. Not sure what to make of what makes him do the things he does. Finale cannot get here too soon, is it next season yet. For my 2 cents, I think Coach wins if Ozzie does not run the challenge table. They spent so much of this season on those two and Brandon and Cochran, I barely care for everyone else.
Heard they are getting rid of redemption next season and getting rid of having retreads. Good riddance. Now if they can just figure out a way to keep a group of 5 from locking up the game like they have the last 2 seasons, maybe it can regain some of the suspense we've been missing.
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| 45 | weykool
ID: 71141119
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 00:24
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Heard they are getting rid of redemption next season and getting rid of having retreads. Good riddance.
Amen Brother!!
Which leads to another thing they need to get rid of.
False Christians using God to make excuses for their actions and playing without honor.
Matt in the last season was somewhat inspirational, but these clown are a joke.
Brandon got what he deserved finally, now if only God would tell Coach that he should do the same.
Can we get a hidden camera on Brandon talking with his dad and uncle for the first time?
That would be must see TV.
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| 46 | WiddleAvi
ID: 22111120
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 08:25
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to recap last nights epidsode: god, god, god, blah.....god, god, god, blah....god, god, god...Amen
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| 47 | mc5huffl35
Leader
ID: 00795541
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 03:13
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(see comment 28)
Redemption gone, good.
Team captains gone, good.
Also, that challenge sure was very Edna-friendly. I have serious doubts as to whether or not Survivor pre-selects the challenges before the show begins.
Say if that were Brandon or Albert vs. Ozzie last challenge. Would they have been turning 4 blocks around to see who is eliminated just before the final 5?
Bring on some real challenges like standing on a pole for 2 hours. Who wants it more?!? Not who is lucky (or has 5 other people helping making it a 6 vs. 1 challenge)
/vent
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| 48 | JeffG
ID: 15859720
Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 14:03
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I'm glad Ozzie and Coach both lost. There is a huge advantage having played before in both the game and the fan favorite vote. There were a few interesting characters this season and last but they were overshadowed by the tv time and attention given the returnees.
Glad to see redemption island and the redemption duels go too. Made it tough for players to make bold moves for fear of reprisal upon a players return and forced folks to stay in their alliances.
I like the one world concept for next season. Folks on the other tribe can try to get in the mix and things up when one tribe is scambling before tribal and it may mean there will be some surprise votes after the merge if they go in with uneven numbers. Could lead to interesting HII play too.
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| 49 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 341127711
Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 16:00
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Few thoughts from last night:
They were saying Coach took the wrong person by taking Sophie instead of Rick. If he had voted Sophie off at f5, Ozzy likely wins f4 challenge and goes to the finals, where Coach loses anyway... but probably with 0 votes for.
What was Russell supposed to say? That Brandon played a great game? Brandon made a boneheaded game play and anyone, family or not, would say so. If he had another purpose for being on the show, then that's a different issue. Still, its a game, so its sad that his family apparently reacted the way he described it.
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