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0 Subject: Honda Classic: Feb 28-Mar 2

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 13:48

the field
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 09:23
Early withdrawals:
Allred, Jason
Claxton, Paul
Demsey, Todd
Jones, Kent
Perkins, Travis
Snedeker, Brandt
Whittaker, Ron


In addition, the following golfers were originally listed in the field, but are now only listed as alternates:
Bolli, Justin
Freeman, Cody
Letzig, Michael
Thompson, Kyle

2G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 21:44
I am interested to see if Toms is still in the field on Thursday am after his conceed in the WGC
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 22:03
More withdrawals:
Azinger, Paul
Van Pelt, Bo
Wilson, Dean
4Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 10:01
Two more are gone:

Beckman, Cameron
McLachlin, Parker
5sarge33rd
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      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 11:21
2/18 Bo W/D fom the Mayakoba
2/25 Bo W/D form the Honda


some things never seem to change.
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:41
Brian Gay is out.
7sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:54
OK....in fairness, here's my squads:


Marino/Durant/Baird/Lonard...P=Jacobsen

Funk/Stadler/Kuchar/Zach Johnson...P=Allenby
8Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 17:09
New PGA cut rules

While this might be a good thing for the PGA, I hope it doesn't cause to many problems for Guru.

9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:06
Shouldn't create any problems.
10philflyboy
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      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 07:39
early season decisions...

The season is still early and trades or still low. I have a full team so do I upgrade one or two guys to better players or conserve trades for the future when they might really be needed.

I guess I will have things to ponder at work today.
11Rex Davidson
      Leader
      ID: 037492717
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 11:17
Given your place in the standings, I'd be inclined to conserve trades, at least until the Masters. There's Bayhill, a brand new tourney in Puerto Rico running opposite the WGC - CA and the Masters in the next few weeks so a lot of lineup changes may be in the offing.

Of course, this advice is in no way influenced by the fact my teams are chasing your teams and, after setting my lineups this week, will have just one trade left per team. ;)
12sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 11:27
OTH, I have a long established history of mediocrity in this game, and have opted for the "conserve trades" approach at this stage. (Meaning, you should prolly do differently. lol)
13Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 08:37
234 teams have 4 active golfers. 90 different golfers are represented.

145 Marino, Steve
101 Durant, Joe
75 Kuchar, Matt
59 Baird, Briny
58 Funk, Fred
33 Lonard, Peter
30 Donald, Luke
26 Leonard, Justin
26 Herron, Tim
24 Weekley, Boo
24 Allenby, Robert
21 Garcia, Sergio
18 Els, Ernie
16 Coceres, Jose
15 Canizares, Alejandro
14 Villegas, Camilo
13 Stadler, Kevin
13 Rose, Justin
12 Franco, Carlos
12 Streelman, Kevin
11 Ogilvie, Joe
10 Cejka, Alex
10 Johnson, Zach
10 Love III, Davis
9 Maruyama, Shigeki
8 Reavie, Chez
8 Johnson, Dustin
7 Day, Jason
7 Cabrera, Angel
6 Oberholser, Arron
6 Campbell, Chad
6 Gamez, Robert
6 Park, Jin
6 Calcavecchia, Mark
5 Adamonis, Brad
5 Pernice, Jr., Tom
5 Weir, Mike
5 DiMarco, Chris
5 Green, Nathan
4 Williamson, Jay
4 Petrovic, Tim
4 Gore, Jason
4 Na, Kevin
4 Ferrie, Kenneth
4 Wi, Charlie
4 Mills, Jon
4 Micheel, Shaun
3 Sutherland, Kevin
3 Byrd, Jonathan
3 Senden, John
3 Jacobson, Fredrik
3 Kresge, Cliff
3 Austin, Woody
3 Flanagan, Nick
3 Yang, Y.E.
3 Thompson, Nicholas
3 Turnesa, Marc
2 Toms, David
2 Pettersson, Carl
2 Sindelar, Joey
2 Parnevik, Jesper
2 Day, Glen
2 Hart, Dudley
2 Immelman, Trevor
2 Wilson, Mark
2 Axley, Eric
2 Goosen, Retief
2 Freeman, Cody
2 Browne, Olin
2 Hoch, Scott
2 Perry, Kenny
1 Slocum, Heath
1 Merrick, John
1 Glover, Lucas
1 Kim, Anthony
1 Matteson, Troy
1 Wagner, Johnson
1 Driscoll, James
1 Maggert, Jeff
1 McGovern, Jim
1 Beem, Rich
1 Henry, J.J.
1 Sheehan, Patrick
1 Lewis, J.L.
1 Ridings, Tag
1 Stroud, Chris
1 Curtis, Ben
1 O'Hair, Sean
1 Kelly, Jerry
1 Rumford, Brett
14Guru
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      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:09
Looks like there are a few more late withdrawals:
Jacobson, Fredrik
Kuehne, Hank
Sim, Michael

15philflyboy
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      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:20
I ended up keeping my teams and saving the trades. My worry is that most of my teams have the same guys so if they don't make the cut then I will have all my teams drop.
16sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:51
*whew* Glad I had Jacobsen as an alternate.
17DWetzel at library
      ID: 561572812
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 13:57
Sarge, did you perchance switch to Joe Ogilvie at the last minute?
18louky
      ID: 1326296
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 14:08
PFB, my louky3 and your pfb2 had the same line up last week. I went Funk to Rose and burned the trade. Half way thru the 1st round it looks like doing nothing was a better move. We'll see how the week plays out.
19sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 15:36
re 17...nope. Didnt even consider it.
20sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 15:37
egads...between Stadler and Zach...I prolly SHOULD have though. :(
21Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:15
Last year, +4 and better made the cut. So far, +3 looks safe this year, but it's unclear whether we'll get to +4 or not. We might.
22sarge33rd
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:57
depends on what Zach Johnson does today, but it looks like I'll have Kuchar going solo on one squad this weekend.
23louky
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 12:10
I think it moves to +4
24philflyboy
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 14:01
Reflecting on my earlier question about saving/using trades. I will have 3 of 4 make the cut on each team. A couple of teams did not score well today but at this point I am glad to have saved the trades!!
25Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:20
A cut line of +5 doesn't even look out of the question if the current scoring trend continues.
26louky
      ID: 1326296
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:38
Would the 5's play? 94 at +5 or better, would the new cut rule, whatever it is, come into play?
27Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:40
If the top 70 plus ties are at +5, then as I understand it, all of the +5s would play on Saturday. There would then be another cut after the third round to get closer to 70 players on Sunday.
28scoobies
      ID: 12181214
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:16
Guru, My Tourney recap page isn't showing any scores for Allenby or Durant. :(
Thanks.
29Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:31
That happens occasionally. It usually self-corrects within 15 minutes or so.
30Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 16:43
+5 now looks pretty unlikely.
31weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 17:26
Guru:
I think the new rule is to keep the field as close to 70 as possible.
So if 70+ ties in more than 78 the field on Sat/Sun would be less than 70.
The golfers get credit for "making the cut" but dont play.

Following is an explanation of the rule:

• The starting field shall be reduced to the 70 professionals having the lowest scores at the conclusion of 36 holes of tournament play, including any professionals tied for 70th place, plus amateurs with scores not higher than that of the 70th professional, provided, however, that should such a cut include more than 78 professionals, the field shall be reduced (cut) to the score which includes the number of professionals nearest 70th place, plus amateurs with scores not higher than the professionals nearest 70th place.

• Should there be an equal number of professionals at different scores at equal intervals above and below 70th position, the higher score shall be used. In the event of any such reduction (cut), professionals eliminated who otherwise would have played in the final 36 holes shall receive their appropriate share of the official prize money in accordance with their respective positions.

In layman's terms, it means:

• The cut for most PGA TOUR events remains where it has been in the past, at low 70 professionals and ties.

• If that cut results in a field larger than 78 professionals, the cut will generally be at the next lower score, meaning the weekend field will be smaller than 70. That is the case at the Sony Open, where a total of 69 players finished at 1 under or better.

• In a very few cases, the "number nearest 70" may still be over 78, in which case the larger number of professionals would play the weekend.

• In any case, all professionals who are in the group of "low 70 professionals and ties" but are eliminated from weekend play by the new rule, receive credit for a made cut, as well as their share of official prize money and FedExCup points


32Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 17:34
That was the prior rule. It was amended starting with this week. See the link in post 8
33weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 17:36
Right now there are 76 golfers at +4 or better.
If 3 of the golfers at +5 make it to +4 that would be 79 and the cut would then be +3 with a field of 65 for the weekend.
34weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 18:07
Seems the link at #8 is blocked at work.
I will check it out when I get home.
They change the PGA rules faster than the tax laws.
35Guru
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      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 18:17
We ended up with 77 players at +4 or better, so the new rule doesn't come into play.
36sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 19:06
17 played tough today. 3 of 4 on one squad double bogey and the 4th bogeys it.
37poker pro
      ID: 49225221
      Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 22:33
Already 36 behind in Guru Golf..Shouldnt be that far down the standings!Thanks Fred funk the last 2 weeks!
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