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Subject: a letter to the Russians
Posted by: tomegun
- [35154221] Fri, Feb 22, 2002, 23:23
from Provo,Utah
Dear Russian olympic officals,
We see that you are back to your old tricks ie crying foul when you got caught cheating. Well, you ain't in Moscow now. The days of your steriod abuse are over. The days that you can intimdate judging are history. Where do your best athletes live now...North "frickin" America. We welcomed you to Utah in a friendly competitive spirit, and you pissed on our hospitality. So, take your whining excuse making asses home. You have worn out your welcome. By the way, your hockey players and ice skaters are staying because Russia sucks. Turn out the lights when you leave. Crybabies |
| 1 | hawaii23
ID: 541150111
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 10:18
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I like it!
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| 2 | Wild Vikings
ID: 13120115
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 11:20
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I think its a bit rude.
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| 3 | Frank p
ID: 241362315
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 15:38
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Maybe you should clean up your own backyard before you start accusing Russians of cheating and steroid abuse.
Marion Jones husband anybody?
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| 4 | Cuz
ID: 581392017
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 16:11
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I think that the Russians may be whining somewhat - but some of their points may be valid. Either way, a letter like that is rude and unneccessary.
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| 5 | himawari
ID: 38112572
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 21:16
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talk about cheating...
how bout the salt lake Olympic bidding scandal?
and crybabies.. at least they, unlike the americans, show their class by not trashing any funiture...
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| 6 | The Left Wings
ID: 760719
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 22:18
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When the Americans scored their third PP goal, I was wondering if the Russians would cry foul again. And indeed they did.
Someone pointed out that the Russians were horrible in the first two periods when they were outshot 36-8 or something like that. However, if you took away even one of the PP chances, it would have been a tied game. And the Americans did not score an even-strength goal even when they outshot the Russians so badly. Slava Fetisov might have a point there, but their bad play in the first two periods kind of work against him.
And I do have to agree that if someone is not fully informed in all the situations involving the Russians, it will seem that the Russians had been screwed pretty badly the last couple of weeks.
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| 7 | himawari
ID: 38112572
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 23:02
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watch the women's hockey gold medal game and you will know. a US ref in a US-Canada final... and 13 penalties against the canadian...
coincidence? yeah right..
that could happen tomorrow in the men's final.
the best way to shut the hell outta those "crybabies" is to have a ref from a third party. but then the french judge was supposingly a "third party" anyway.
so corrupted are these olympics nowaday. scandal after scandal.
and yeah to have a canadian flag on the floor of the US dressing room. some classy americans they are.
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| 8 | Wild Vikings
ID: 13120115
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 23:42
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To get an impartially ref'd game tommorrow I suggest naming an NHL referee, even if that referee is Canadian or American.
Being a former referee myself, I can tell you that a NHL ref makes his living based upon his integrity. If he tanks the game for either team, his credibility and integrity go out the window. Even though its not an NHL game, you gotta be crazy if you think the Referee-in-chief of the NHL isnt watching the game. Tanking an olympic gold medal game would essentially end his career.
I hear people suggest we should have a european referee, but I disagree. NHL refs know what the tempo and flow of our game is. They know how to remain impartial, and for the most part wont affect the outcome of the game unless someone absolutely gives him nochoice.
If we get a eurpoean ref there is an increased possbility of having light penalties called the whole game which would be a tragedy in my books. And in recent history IIHF referees have left a sour taste in my mouth. Put an IIHF ref as the linesmen so our NHL counterpart can use him for rule consultation should the need arise.
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| 9 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 491232213
Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 23:48
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I agree on the NHL refs being a good idea. For them this would just be another game. They've never thrown an NHL game (at least not one I've ever seen) so why would they throw one now? For them its all about proffesional pride.
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| 10 | Sanchez
ID: 47105571
Sun, Feb 24, 2002, 00:08
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The women's final was in my opinion an embarrasment to everyone involved. I vocally questioned the wisdom of having an American referee before the game started. At the time I had no idea that she would blatantly favour the Americans, and as the game progressed could not believe what I was seeing.
I believe the women's final was worse a screwed job than the figure skating scandal. The Olympic games have no integrity in my eyes. What a joke.
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| 11 | JayTDawg
ID: 4412843
Sun, Feb 24, 2002, 02:41
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The ref will be from the NHL
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| 12 | RueJoyce
ID: 249471813
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 16:33
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I have to say that Bill McCreary did an outstanding refereeing job in the final game. I though the MacInnis interference call was a bit of a reach (more like incidental contact), but he did a great job overall.
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| 13 | RueJoyce
ID: 249471813
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 16:45
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BTW, I dont think Americans have any lesson to give to anybody regarding sport ethics.
For example, the American Athletism Federation (or whatever its official name) has been shamelessly refusing to divulge the names of athletes (and take any measures against them) that have been tested positive over the last couple of years, despite great pressures from IOC agencies.
IMHO, Olympics would have much more success in the US if, instead of actually showing the games, they showed the 'Real-life stories' of every american medalist. Let's face it, Americans do not enjoy the sport for the pure achievement of one that it represents, but rather the cute little story that goes with it (Ohno and his parents, Jim Shea and his grand-father, Picabo and her helmet, etc...).
I will always remember the day when, in Atlanta, the 4x100m Canadian relay team blasted by Americans in the final only to hear a silent crowd not even clap their hands once for a great performance...Stop the rant.
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| 14 | bookie
ID: 310371419
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 16:56
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Rue, you have just hit my biggest criticism of the US (NBC) coverage. I personally would rather see more events and less fluff. Yes, american television will always be skewed towards american participants, but if they skipped all of the human interest "crap" they could show more of the competition and therefore a greater diversification of competitors. Some (I would think most in this forum) of us do love the game for the game.
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| 15 | Dec
ID: 1411192116
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 17:19
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I don't really mind cause I have the choice of turning on Canadian and/or US network. Each country shows stuff differently and it's nice for me.
For example, in the 50 KM nordic skiing, I don't care about those little annoying real-life story.
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| 16 | flyboyz
ID: 59126712
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 17:35
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You guys are missing one important point: At least in the US, the Olympic broadcasts are NOT about sports. They are about getting the largest amount of casual/non-sports viewers and that means WOMEN. It has been shown that women eat the
'upclose & personal' spots up along with any form of ice skating (in Winter) and gymnastics (in Summer).
Saying that I would definitely have to commend NBC (& MSNBS & CNBC) for keeping it to a minimum at least when I was watching.
And BTW, the best up close story I saw was a piece on the Canadian Womens Curling team that won gold in Nagano.
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| 17 | Greenbelt
ID: 43124258
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 17:38
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Rue;
While I agree that there were too many "Up close and personal" ( as it's called ) stories, they aren't all about us over-pampered yanks. Many were about atheletes from other countries including China, Russia and even...GASP!...Canada ( nice piece on Sale & Peltier! ). But please don't include Jimmy Shea in your tirade. While the stories were too many and too cumbersome, that was a nice piece of history/lineage ended by some idiot drunk. Tragic. It deserved reporting.
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| 18 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 20:19
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NBC actually cut down noticeably on the "Up Close and Personal" stories this go around compared to the Sydney Games, where they got a lot of flack for too much mush and not enough sport (an opinion that I happen to agree with). There's a fine line between showing just sport, which would cater mostly to the male audiences, and just "Up Close and Personal" stories, which would cater mostly to the female audiences, and I think NBC did a good job this time. You can't watch any sporting events now without a sidebar underlying story to the event, so why would it be any different at the Olympics? The fact is that most people don't know these competitors from a stranger on the street. It's NBC's job to help you understand who they are, where they're coming from, how they got where they are, and to put a face with a name. Apollo Anton Ohno? Sarah Hughes? Simon Ammann? and on and on and on. Before the Olympics, I probably couldn't have picked them out of a 1 person lineup. But now I know who they are, where they're from, how they got to the games, and their feel-good story. Is that really such a bad thing? In my opinion, it's not.
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| 19 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 589291221
Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 21:06
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Most NBC coverage in our area was tape delayed. Only a few events were live. By the time NBC was getting to show the action CBC had already covered it twice over.
TSN, The Sports Network, had secondary Olympic coverage so when one event was occurring we could tune into another event.
Peter Jordan's Olympic moments on CBC was very good. He put the fun back into the Olympics which has been sadly missed ever since the games where sold to the corporate dogs.
Great segments on bobsled, luge, biathalon, curling...
Umm yeah, the big dinosaurs schtick (a sad little bit) at the closing ceremonies was a poor attempt of luring paleontologist and young children away from the Discovery Channel. And so was Kiss. There's a reason 50 yr olds shouldn't wear spandex.
Well it's back to Soaps, A dating Story, and X-game reruns until the World Cup.
shanny ---> ??
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