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Subject: TSN: Ultimate Hockey Live
Posted by: Erik B.
- [239592612] Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 12:01
It begins again. Check out:
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/hockey/fullseason/ultimate/home.html
Comments, feedback to me.
-ESB
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| 1 | StLCards
Sustainer
ID: 4431816
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 12:14
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For those considering to play, please be aware upfront of the eligiblity requirement to win any prize.
(copy and paste from the rules page)
ELIGIBILITY: To be eligible to win a prize, Game entrants must be 18 years of age or older and a legal resident of the United States or Canada. Residents of Montana, Vermont, Louisiana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Arizona, Florida, Maryland, Colorado and the province of Quebec may play, but WILL NOT be eligible to win or receive any prizes.
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| 2 | philflyboy
Leader
ID: 407561421
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 12:25
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sure would be nice to read a thread without people complaining again about having to pay. We all knew this game was going to be a pay game this year. Just win a division and win your money back and then some.
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| 3 | Dec
ID: 586221713
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 14:43
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Is it 4 or 5 weekly trades?
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| 4 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:04
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Funny, but nearly 1/5 of the United States is ineligable for prizes. Very surprising to me.
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| 5 | Cuz
ID: 555242718
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:08
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I downloaded the draft spreadsheet and noticed that the prices for players seemed to be way higher than last year. For example, Iginla starts at $11 million and I counted 36 players with over an $8 million price tag. Does anyone know if the prices always start this high, or is this something new, or is it just me?
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| 6 | Cuz
ID: 555242718
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:09
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Dec, to answer your question I belive the web site says 4 trades/week.
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| 7 | Dec
ID: 586221713
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:15
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Cuz, the games rules says:
Trades - Once the season starts, you will be given five trades every Wednesday at 12PM ET, which you can accumulate and execute during the season. Selling a player counts as a trade; buying a player does not.
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| 8 | Cuz
ID: 555242718
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:21
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All I did was follow the link posted up top and on that page it stated that this year 4 trades/week during the season. When I clicked on the link 'Click here for more on how to play' it took me to last years game rules. So maybe they changed it for this year. Or maybe I am confused.
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| 9 | quik_ag
ID: 556371723
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 15:58
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Cuz, the prices do look relatively high, but i remember also thinking that last year. The high-priced players are generally over-priced and the good deals show themselves in teh first couple of weeks.
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| 10 | ukula
ID: 4741614
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 16:11
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Eric - it looks like the link you provided is pointing to last years rules. If you click on the prizes link and then click on "how to play" you'll get this years rules. Also, under "how long is the season" it states that the season goes from the first kickoff to the last play from scrimmage, not exactly appropriate for hockey. It should be more like from the opening faceoff to the last teeth-shattering mid-ice collision.
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| 11 | The Dienasty
ID: 365452823
Fri, Aug 16, 2002, 22:02
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Eric, is there an e-mail address i contact you at.
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| 12 | Code Cracker
Leader
ID: 21752128
Sat, Aug 17, 2002, 09:27
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Erik posted this one in the baseball forum:
ebarmack@sportingnews.com
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| 13 | Synergy
ID: 387271221
Sat, Aug 17, 2002, 13:47
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Hmmm, ppg, gtg and +/- are worth more now....
that +/- could make a bigger difference now
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| 14 | Synergy
ID: 387271221
Sat, Aug 17, 2002, 13:54
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Prices seem to be adjusted according to total tsnp, whereas per game seems to be taken less into consideration.
Might want to look at players that were injured last year then...
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| 15 | Ira
ID: 27771721
Fri, Aug 23, 2002, 14:38
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Anyone wanna start a Fund for the handicapped kids who cant afford Ultimate Teams? Pleeease. ;)
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| 16 | The Left Wings
ID: 1668298
Fri, Aug 23, 2002, 14:55
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PFB, I'm like your worst nightmare, cuz as long as I'm on the boards, I'll complain.
And by excluding a big chunk of the USA (and Quebec as usual) from prize eligibility, I'm sure their residents are having a problem with TSN as well.
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| 17 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 25731231
Fri, Aug 23, 2002, 16:11
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Just signed up for my 3 Ultimate teams. I'll probably put 1 team in a gurupie division... anyone feel like starting one up?
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| 18 | Perm Dude
Leader
ID: 197391519
Sat, Aug 24, 2002, 09:14
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TLW, it's not like it is TSN's decision to exclude people. Those states (and province) have laws regarding receiving prizes of this sort which would leave TSN in a very difficult position. Some states have regulations which would regulate TSN as a gaming entity because it both charges an entry fee and awards prizes based upon the outcome, and the only way they can operate in some states (like North Dakota, for example, under Public Law 53-11-02: "A sponsor may not require a person to pay the sponsor money as a condition of awarding the person a prize...") is to either waive the entry fee or waive the prize eligibility.
If residents of those states and Quebec have a problem with the fact that their state's laws make it impossible for TSN to award them a prize, the proper recourse is for them to complain to their elected representatives to change the law.
pd
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| 19 | ukula
ID: 29719249
Sat, Aug 24, 2002, 09:23
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pd - how come different companies that charge a fee to play their games exclude different states? For example tnafantasysports (football) excludes CT but TSN does not.
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| 20 | Perm Dude
Leader
ID: 197391519
Sat, Aug 24, 2002, 09:37
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It all boils down to how the business (and that particular activity) are regulated in that state. And all the states (and provinces) are different. Most states allow prizes to be awarded provided that 1. The prizes are as described and are actually awarded 2. A list of award winners is kept on file and given to anyone who asks 3. A prize award is not conditional upon other, unrelated products or services being purchased.
Some states are tougher. I've heard Vermont is very tough for games (and in particular on-line games) for some reason but I've never read their statutes on it. Connecticut used to have laws regarding the awarding of prizes by companies which are not registered in the state or have no offices there.
And in some cases I'm sure that the companies that award the prizes just find it easier to exclude certain states from eligibility simply because they don't want to bother with what might be very simple requirements by the state (such as filling out a form and sending it in with a small registration fee).
pd
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| 21 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 437432419
Sat, Aug 24, 2002, 19:43
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Feel free to enter fantasy leagues, but there's no pay
Fantasy Sports Leagues: Not All Fun and Games
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| 22 | Erik B.
ID: 239592612
Thu, Aug 29, 2002, 12:02
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Guys:
What Perm Dude said is true.
Others:
Is the trade situation clear now? Or do we need to clarify?
-Erik
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| 23 | Dec
ID: 586221713
Thu, Aug 29, 2002, 12:33
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Erik B.
Trade situation still unclear.
In the login page:
4 trades per week during the season
In the "Click here for more how to play" page
When do I get new trades?
After the first Roster Freeze of the season (Wednesday, October 9th at 7pm EST), the unlimited trading period ends, and you start the season with 5 trades in your account. Every Wednesday at 12pm EST (starting on Wednesday, October 16), your team will be awarded 5 more trades.
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| 24 | butt
ID: 0743112
Sat, Aug 31, 2002, 12:04
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Roster Freeze
"... If your team is missing even 1 player, your entire team will not score. You will earn 0 points for any players that don't play/have a bye week, but the rest of your roster will still earn points."
What's a bye week in the NHL?
P.S.: ... players who, not players that.
:-)
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| 25 | Erik B.
ID: 239592612
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 11:39
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Dec:
I'll try to get this cleared up today.
Butt:
Thanks for the edit. We'll get this fixed too.
-ESB
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| 26 | izbiztuh
ID: 2371448
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:09
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question regarding the 40 bucks + t-shirt if you win division .
what is the minimum amount of teams required in a division in order to justify a 40 dollar prize ?
wouldnt it be wiser to join an auto division which might be full of stool pigeons , then you can win the division cash ?
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| 27 | Dec
ID: 586221713
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 17:44
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1 month later on the login page
5 trades per week during the season
Izbiztuh: You need a minimum of 10 pigeons, including yourself, to win division cash.
Silly question: Is there a way to be sure I will be in a 10 teams division at the start of the season? What happens if everybody move just before the freeze?
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| 28 | izbiztuh
ID: 2371448
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 20:35
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I aint no pigeon
;)
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| 29 | The Left Wings
ID: 1668298
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 00:18
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With this kind of prize rules, who would want to have friends (unless they're pigeons) in the same division?
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| 30 | izbiztuh
ID: 2371448
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 06:19
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brinkster sked .....
will there be one for the upcoming season ? I found it to be handy
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| 31 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 4286118
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 06:57
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TLW, I bought 3 teams for 35$ US, and will put two in pigeon auto-divisions. The 3rd I'm going to put in a divsion with either Gurupies or some buddies from work. (Who are probably pigeons anyway, but for the sake of arguement lets say they're not.) I'm leading my pigeon baseball auto-division, and I'd like to think my hockey skills are on par with my baseball skills. So if I can win my two auto-divisions, I'll have made a profit... and I'll still be able to play with my friends.
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| 35 | Little M
ID: 16593012
Mon, Sep 16, 2002, 13:10
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Has anyone bought the draft kit?
What is it?
Is it worth the money?
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| 36 | The Dienasty
ID: 557221718
Mon, Sep 16, 2002, 20:07
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I'm still wondering if it's 4 or 5 trades per week...
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| 37 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 48811614
Mon, Sep 16, 2002, 21:32
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5.
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| 38 | Little M
ID: 16593012
Tue, Sep 17, 2002, 10:01
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4
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| 39 | Puckprophet
ID: 54371812
Tue, Sep 17, 2002, 18:56
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if it's 4 i'm not playing.........
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| 40 | The Dienasty
ID: 557221718
Tue, Sep 17, 2002, 20:17
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I believe they've corrected problem on the main page stating it was '4' trades. It now says 5.
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| 41 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Tue, Sep 17, 2002, 20:20
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From the game rules How do trades work?
After the first Roster Freeze of the season (Wednesday, October 9th at 7pm EST), each time you sell a trade from your roster, a trade is deducted. Buying a player to fill an open spot does not count as a trade. If you do not use up all of your 5 trades, the remaining trades will carry over into the next week. When do I get new trades?
After the first Roster Freeze of the season (Wednesday, October 9th at 7pm EST), the unlimited trading period ends, and you start the season with 5 trades in your account. Every Wednesday at 12pm EST (starting on Wednesday, October 16), your team will be awarded 5 more trades. So it looks like we're getting 4 trades per week, eh?
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| 42 | Little M
ID: 16593012
Wed, Sep 18, 2002, 09:39
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On the sign up page, it still says 4 trades per week.
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| 43 | Die_Habs
ID: 47361010
Wed, Sep 18, 2002, 09:42
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I'm back...and it better be 5!
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| 44 | Die_Habs
ID: 3808811
Thu, Sep 19, 2002, 23:58
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any discounts for roto members?
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