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Subject: strategy thread 2
Posted by: smallwhirled
- Donor [17152614] Fri, Dec 06, 2002, 10:45
Walk started this thing a few weeks ago, and I'm going to try to continue.
I've gotten into a funk and I think my team stinks. I used a few trades to get out of the cheapo goalies a while back, but I decided to stick with more expensive offensive players instead of getting 2 stud goalies. Now I'm stuck with Boucher and my offensive guys have fallen off the planet.
I need some help here...
Federov
Thornton
Morrison
Bertuzzi
Stillman
St. Louis
Schlistivy
Poti
Boyle
Tarnabe
Belfour
Boucher
2.59 in the bank, 9 trades...I'm moving either Federov or Morrison to Mario, and I can't wait for the day to get Mr. Turco back.
Thoughts, ideas, plans, post em'.
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| 27 | B-TRAIN
ID: 111112213
Tue, Dec 17, 2002, 08:15
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TLW- That's how I intend to manage my team over the next few weeks. When I follow my team daily, I tend to micro-manage it. I make trades based on the short term and forget about the bigger picture. I have one trade in mind for Wed., and after that, my team should be set for the next two weeks. My name is Brian, and I'm a tradeaholic...
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| 28 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Sat, Dec 21, 2002, 04:38
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I don'r know....
I guess I'll find out in the morning.
Jokien out?!?!
THere is 1 thing I know.....you make your $ from 2 slots (Mario/Thornton and cheapo goalies). IMO, you hould hold stud W's longer.
smallwhirled
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| 29 | C.SuperFreaks
ID: 549471213
Sat, Dec 21, 2002, 10:34
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The 2 day break over X-mas gives Colorado, Dallas, and Ottawa are playing a modified 4 games in 5 nights.
I'm still not sold on any Philly players.
Pittsburgh should end it's losing streak tonight. Calgary is in town.
IMHO, A Mario/Federov combo looks like a 21 day hold.
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| 30 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Sat, Dec 21, 2002, 10:50
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Bad post earlier....
It seems to me that the trades are to be used on Mario/Thornton type cylces and the goalies. While holding the wingers long term. It seems like the best way to make the RV at this point.
Dang, Jokinen is doubtful! I have no idea what to do now because I can't just go and get Mario back because I upgraded a d-man. 320K net, damnit!
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| 31 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 08:53
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Anyone getting sick of Hossa? He has given my team nothing since I pikced him up after that hot stretch...I knew he was streaky, but dang!
I think I'm moving him into some consistant stud after tonight's game.
Sitting with about 3.66 in the bank and I'm thinking of keeping a little for the Hossa upgrade, but I'm also considering upgrading Zetterberg even with the good sked b/c his TSNP/gm last 15 is pretty bad.
St. Louis going to continue to tumble hard $$ wise? Or is a Zetterberg > Sanderson worth a trade? I'm leaning towards holding the trade, but I'm not sure yet.
Let the Thornton talk begin again. 3 day hole followed by a B2B then two more 2 day holes are coming. Will he see another huge drop in a swap or not? Thoughts? Again, if it looks like he will drop, I'm trading because this RV is starting to add up on my team.
smallwhirled
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| 32 | Richard
Leader
ID: 5410352713
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 09:40
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smallwhirled - I expect Thornton to increase in price today as folks buy into his back-to-back games. Where are the sells coming from - they will come from Allison who has disappeared again from the LA Kings (did he aggravate his knee injury?). Allison will dominate the price loser list today.
Of course, Thornton's price rise will be short lived because his schedule falls apart after the back-to-back but there will be enough managers with trades to buy into him and then a few days later sell him.
In addition to Thornton, the recent cast of characters (Weekes, Lemieux, Knuble, Stillman, Mogilny and Lalime) should see some more gains.
Good luck with your money making. Catch me if you can;-)
Richard
ps - I've still got Hossa on a couple of teams. Ottawa's schedule is just too good and I know if I drop him he'll have a monster night. I'll be patient a bit longer but most manager's aren't showing that patience. He'll lose some value today.
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| 33 | walk
Leader
ID: 338441813
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 09:43
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Hey smallwhirled. I think you will see Thornton lose money during the 3-day hole as this seems to be the pattern. Also, Dallas and Colorado both have two games during the boston 3-day hole stretch. Still, Colorado's elite centers are out, for now, and Modano is the only alternative. Sundin and Lemieux have merely 1 game during the 3-day hole (and I would expect that many managers have both Thornton and Lemieux).
I also acquired Hossa, albeit on my free east/coast team only, and will trade him for Kovalev after tonight's game.
- walk
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| 34 | Chestergreat
Sustainer
ID: 137142214
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 09:45
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Tough call on Hossa & Zetterberg. They both have good schedules and could start producing any time now.
Most disappointing thing about Hossa is that the rest of the Senators (Alfredsson, Havlat, White, Rachunek) are producing very good numbers. I would be inclined to give him one more chance (tonight) & if he still comes up empty move to
Kovalev (if you have the $$) or Stillman.
Zetterberg is very puzzling.
- He is cheap
- He has looked good on the ice the times I've seen him play
- He is getting good time on the Power Play
- He has been playing off & on with Federov
So why isn't he producing?? I don't know . . but I have him on one team here & a couple in another game. Federov is not doing well either . . so maybe they will both come alive at the same time. I'm holding until I see his Power Play time has been taken away.
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| 35 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 11:00
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As for Thornton, the best guy IMO from a games standpoint is Modano getting you the 2, but he also has a decent short term sked thereafter just in case you run out of trades getting Thornton back, or something happens to Thornton where his price will conintue to slid during the next B2B (which would be odd).
Hossa has one more chance on my squad, as he's my only true stud winger (not dissing Mogilny and Hejduk) and the only guy not producing besides Zetterberg on my team. I just can't continue to wait as I've got too much ground to still make up.
I've actually seen Zetterberg a few times (that's right, watched a game or two :)) and all those points that Chestergreat pointed out is why I got him as my cheapie a few weeks back. Nevertheless, I am very tempted to upgrade, but that would zap my bank and probably not get me a whole lot more production...making my next move a possible two trade one, etc. I try to manage my team as a function rather than pure player A > player B swaps for more games.
It seems like the top managers have stopped making RV for some reason. Looks like a good opportunity to get a couple mil for that final month run. The guys on top will still have good RV's, and anyone who thinks that money is not important has never played a smallworld game.
smallwhirled
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| 36 | Toral
Sustainer
ID: 2111201313
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 11:21
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In Basic, I am closing my eyes and switching from a hot Naslund and Bertuzzi to a cold Guerin and Modano purely for schedule reasons. Nothing to do but close my eyes and cross my fingers.
Toral
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| 37 | walk
Leader
ID: 338441813
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 11:24
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So, why can't you then close your eyes and cross your fingers when you play the Yahoo! Political Guru's Hockey game, too ...? You sage GM. Get off my back Toral!
;-)
walk
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| 38 | B-TRAIN
ID: 111112213
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 12:18
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I'm thinking about moving Murray=>Guerin on the 29th. Boston's schedule goes to SH*T after that, but Dallas hasn't been filling the net lately. With Modano back, hopefully they will get back on track.
I have also been sitting on Lehtinen for the last few weeks(Don't ask me why). For the production I have been seeing, he's WAY to expensive. Moving him to either Hossa or Alfie is my first response. Hossa is streaky and has been slow the last few days. Alfie has had been sub-par all year(compared to last year). I am probably going to pick up one of them on the 30th. I have Havlat, so I'll probably go with Alfie. He had a big game last night, and sometimes it's cool to be a little different.
Ideas?
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| 39 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 16:50
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Bring this thingee back up...
Is tommorrow get Naslund day? I'm going to try pretty hard to get him tonight or tommorrow morning. He now sarts above Mario YTD, IIRC. Just gotta find a way, and it may be getting out of Hejduk early with the lull coming up.
Why the hell did I trade Hossa! Argh! The move really turned out to be a Hossa (other guy who I forgot) > Alfreddson and Kovalev. Hossa was down in the 15 SWP/gm range and losing cash by the boatloads.
I've learned that you never move a stud with a good sked.
I hear that Tarnstrom will be out tonight, but may play tommorrow...I guess we'll have to see how serious the groin is.
Getting nothing from my goalies either...worst 5 day stretch I've had this year, maybe it'll turn around with Pit and Col tonight.
smallwhirled
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| 40 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 17:16
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Thanks for moving back up to the top, smallwhirled. Looks like we all might have some wholesales changes to make this week with some schedule holes coming up for Dallas and Colorado. Opens the door a bit for roster differentiation, I hope.
- walk
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| 41 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 19:00
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Smallwhirled,
Personally I'm looking at Nasland on the 10th, but might consider tomorrow now that you mentioned it... My choice is Guerin vs Chicago on the 9th or Nasland vs. Ottowa tomorrow.. I'll have to sleep on it or listen to any sage advice from the folks here....
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| 42 | walk
Leader
ID: 3411442716
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 22:05
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Naslund, Bookie. Guerin is just not scoring at the same clip.
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| 43 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 22:40
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Hmm, it looks like Naslund may not work for me. I feel like my team is backed into a corner, and the best way to get out is to just hold some guys.
Why the heck did I get Checkmanek? HE had a good looking gaolie sked a feew days ago, and it only took a White > Blake downgrade to swing it. Then he gives up 4 goals in a win, and doesn't even play against Buffalo tonight! Argh, differentiation from the pack only puts you further away.
The guy for me to move into Naslund is Hejduk because Kovalev and Alfreddson still have good skeds for now. Plus the only way I can get the cash is to go for a double switch...and I've been doing way too many of those dreaded things lately.
I guess a possible way is to move Mario > someone and then just move Hejduk to Naslund early. Mario pulled a groin tonight, so who knows about him now. Regardless of who I move, it'll have to be a double switch, so I'm leaning against it.
Anyone having troubles gaining RV lately? Seems like my cash gains have gone to a complete stop!
Looks like we'll all have to do some reworking when the Dal and Col sked ends as walk points out...Many teams might have to go with 2 expensive goalies for the 1st time this year. Anyone feel bad about the commitment the RV to McInnis or another stud D too early? I could use an extra 4 mil right now.
smallwhirled
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| 44 | tommyd
ID: 37030218
Tue, Jan 07, 2003, 23:40
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Looks like the possible injuries to Lemieux and Thornton may throw a monkey wrench into some plans too. Hopefully Thornton is back for Friday's game. If Lemieux is out then a downgrade there and Hejduk to Naslund is a definite possibility. I would love to pick up Naslund now but it seems like I have too many 4-5 mil range players and I don't have enough money to pick him up. It's going to be interesting especially with the upcoming scheds of Dallas and the Avalanche.
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| 45 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Fri, Jan 17, 2003, 11:07
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I think it's time to discuss some strategies for the stretch run. Here's a few pointers that I'll probably be going with.
1) The upgrade of your D-men. If you haven't already committed yet, it's probably about time to switch those +/- guys playing for the good teams to the guys who are actually getting points. But, once you commit, it's probably a waste of trades to involve defensemen in double swap downgrades. If your budget is sufficient, commit and forget it (barring a Dallas type hole in the sked). The late emergence of a few super cheap centers should help.
2) Make sure you don't just give up on making RV. Believe me, whatever kind of race you're in, you'll probably need that extra mil later.
3) Turco. There he is, still performing just like the studs at goalie. Goalie differentiation could be great or a disater...and usually, it's a disaster. I think sticking with him is the best bet until the final few weeks and a spark is needed.
4) Top heavy studs. They may be more expensive, but go for Pit, Col, Was, Bos, Van big line teams over the balance of Det, Stl, Dal, and Ott.
Good luck,
smallwhirled
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| 46 | bookie
ID: 1859247
Fri, Jan 17, 2003, 12:52
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I'm thinking the following guys are must haves (barring awful schedule or injury) as they produce so much more than their counterparts or are so cheap and produce that they should be some of the cash freeing on your team:
C:
Thorton
Lamiuex
W:
Nasland
D:
Tarnstrum
G:
Turco.
I also agree with smallwhirled on the D upgrades, once you make the move, forget about it unless there is a big schedule hole.
Money too should continue to be at least a partial consideration in your trades. Points win, but Points follow money in most cases.
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| 47 | walk
Leader
ID: 338441813
Fri, Jan 17, 2003, 14:28
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Good stuff, but are we close to the "stretch run" yet? I think the rangers have played the most games in the NHL at 48, which means they have 32 to go (or 40% of their games). While I do not disagree with any strategies that smallwhirled and bookie mentioned, I also think there is still some more time to go before "the sprint."
- walk
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| 48 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Fri, Jan 17, 2003, 14:44
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I am not quite ready to move up on the defensemen. My current plan has me holding the three I own (Tarnstrom, DesJardins, and Redden) for at least another month - unless injury rears its ugly head. I am still trying to use my trades for cash and points; studs coming off injury or weak schedule with strong three week schedule ahead. By not trading D'men or my cheap winger or cheap center, I have been able to trade out of those nasty 1 game in 5 day holes that occasionally appear.
I am going to ride my two goalies for awhile - Turco and Kolzig - although I am keeping an eye on Weekes for the Hurricanes. If they start winning again and Weekes is in the net, I expect him to start most of the games. Irbe has not gotten untracked, and he has had a couple of chances this year. The only style of play that will make them winners is dump and chase, with the trap - when they are playing well, they don't give up many goals. Now, if Naslund and Morrison would score some goals, then this plan would look much better!
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| 49 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Mon, Jan 20, 2003, 23:23
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Good points.
"The Sprint" I agree, it's definitely not time for the sprint just yet. I'm in no real hurry to try and force a big run up the rankings just yet. I'm just going to try and employ those plans laid out above in my buffer strategy.
I was looking pretty good there in the RV department and the short injury to Tarnstrom about 2 weeks ago immediately payed off when I went to Gonchar. Then the Rauchnek injury forced me into probably my final defenseman move of the year by going into Tarnstrom a few days ago. I'd be suprised if I use more than 3 trades for the rest of the yesr there.
Going to continue to employ my buffer strategy. It has worked so damn well for me this year. Get a few early and then don't use them.
One thing is for sure, Jason Blake and Marcel Hossa look so dang good for the price. If your RV is there, you could go all stud F except for the one center slot....go longer term with the Wingers and use the 2 Center slots to continue to rotating for the mammoth stud price changes. If Mario plays again, the mammoth changes will come right back between him, Thornton, Sakic and Forsberg, IMO.
I'm looking to then raise the cash to go with stud goalies down the real "stretch run" w/o sacrificing in the foward slots.
75 million is still a very reachable goal for some teams...
smallwhirled
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| 50 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Sat, Feb 08, 2003, 23:03
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Time for a BUTT
3HM. Anyone going for it? Going to be tough for a lot of teams because I have boatloads or RV, and it's still going to be a real stretch. I was chatting to Rogue about this a few days back, and we think that Boston, Colorado, Pittsburgh pretty much have the best schedules out there beginning around the 12th or so. I've made my last few trades getting ready to go for it.
Which brings me to the next idea. Wouldn't it be cool to have the 3 duo's...Mario and Kovy, Thornton and Murray, and Forsberg and Hejduk. Probably only going to need to go get Kovalev by that time, as Murray looks to be in my plans already.
All holds true if Hackett makes it through the stretch.
Gotta go stud D, though. If you aren't there, you might as well get em' or I'll blow right by ya. ;)
smallwhirled
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| 51 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 09:18
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Hmmm. And here I thinking that 3HM merely meant Thornton, Forsberg and Mario. Of course, that negates Modano, which is a whole 'nuther question: Of these 4 studs centers (notwithstanding Sundin), who is the odd man out? I guess Modano, since his schedule is not as beefy as the other 3. So, I see moving Modano to Mario on the 12th and Koivu/Rucchin (my two "3rd line centers") to Thornton on the 11th or 14th.
Regarding YOUR question of the 3 pairs of studs, which approximately totals $48MM, I assume, as you imply, this includes Hackett (and Turco) at goal. I have moved away from Hackett and simply cannot even contemplate your question from an affordability point of view.
Currently, I have Forsberg, Modano and 3rd line center, Jagr, Hejduk, Elias and Knuble. Your formula would call for moving either Elias or Knuble to Kovalev or Murray. The only way I do this is to move Brodeur to Hackett. I am not convinced that Boston will play Hackett a lot (two-thirds of the time at the most), nor I am convinced they will win a lot. Hard to argue with the price tag though. That price may make it foolish not to keep him on one's roster given that he will play two-thirds of the time and win at least half of those games. What freedom one gets from having a $2MM goalie instead of a $8.5MM goalie!
If I had to choose, well, I already have Hejduk, a given, but I like Kovalev more than Murray. However, if Pittsburgh trades Kovalev, then I would have to consider to which team. If it's my NYR, then forgetit. He will be cursed yet again on that team.
I'll have to consider, mull all of this over. So many possibilities!
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| 52 | Chestergreat
Sustainer
ID: 46049307
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 10:18
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This is a point in the season, for we relatively newcomers, when we realize we should have spent more of an effort increasing roster value early in the season.
At $62M I thought I was OK . . . but when you start talking about having Mario, Thornton & Forsberg all at once . . . I just can't afford it. I see that the guys over, or approaching, $70M
have a big advantage heading home. To keep pace I will have to be lucky in consistantly picking the right $3M to $5M players to battle the studs I can't afford.
I'm sticking with Abid, Andropov & Roloson for a while. If they keep producing like they have it will help overcome the $$ shortfall.
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| 53 | roy4hockey
ID: 3713370
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 10:38
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i'm going for the 3hm by friday. have to pick up storr to do it but can't resist having mario, thornton and forsberg all at once. i'm at 66m in rv.
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| 54 | Richard
Leader
ID: 53824316
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 10:40
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Having learned the lesson of building roster value a few years ago, I'm in decent shape at this time of the season. My top team can field Forsberg, Thornton and Lemieux at center. Jagr, Murray, Hejduk and Miller at Winger. MacInnis, Gonchar and Hamrlik at defense. Studs at most of the slots. The only choice I have to make is two studs at defense or a stud goalie to go with Turco. It seems that $71 million will buy a fairly decent fantasy hockey team. Of course another $5 million wouldn't hurt;-)
Richard
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| 55 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 11:14
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Richard, I'm three million behind and am definitely leaving my shortfall with only having 1 1/2 stud d-men.. I have big Al and Hamrlik... As well as Havelid, who I've had forever and a day... At the moment in Goal I have Turco and Brodeur.. With this I think I can only afford 5 stud Forwards.. Right now I'm leaning toward the afforementioned 3 headed monster, Jagr and Hejduk... I've got Knuble and will have to have either Havlat (if I have enough cash) or Miller as my final winger... Ah to have 75 million would definitely be nice...
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| 56 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 11:25
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All 3 of you guys had some huge nights last night, way to go!
Modano does kinda fall out of the 3HM at center due to the schedules, he has been great but I haven't had him lately.
We all have different ideas, and Hackett is surely not going to be as automatic as a stud...but the money is there is you rotate him, and the upcoming schedule is favorable with the number og games. I absolutely labored looking for a Cloutier replacement a few days ago, and it seems like I always do. Maybe I'm too critical about picking the right guy when I flop stud goalies and am always looking for the perfect run of the pathetic offense combos.
So, for now...I think I'm going to ride Hackett again.
Those linemate combos certainly look like a lot of points if there was a way to afford them all.
Definitely seems like the gurupies are all on great runs by the standings, like it should be.
smallwhirled
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| 57 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 11:35
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I'm aboard. I'm almost to 69mil
I already have Forsberg and 7mil in the bank, here's the plan
Forsberg
Smolinski-->Mario (Weds)
Blake-->Thornton (Fri) (Blake's my longest hold, he's been huge for me since November!)
Jagr
Hejduk
Palffy-->Tanguay (Thu)
Miller
MacInnis
Gonchar
Boyle-->Tarnstrom (???) (maybe)
Brodeur--->Giguere (Weds) (check out his schedule!)
Turco
I'll miss out on the linemates idea, but if Miller & Tanguay stay hot, I dont have a guy on my team I wont be happy with. Of course, it never works that way, and I'm sure someone will screw it up. But on paper it looks real good.
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| 58 | simbot
ID: 1597246
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 12:26
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I'm going to avoid putting all my money in the 3HM and instead balance the rest of my roster out, using Antropov as my third center. I think there is still money to be made off rotating stud centers and will try to make a few more million before upgrading to the 3HM. I also have traded out of Hackett because most other teams have him and I want to use my money to my advantage.
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| 59 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 12:58
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J.. Interesting call on Giguere... That's a pretty nice 3 week schedule.... hmm... I might join you on that one. Broduer has a 1 in 5 after b2b Col and Phoenix... And with both of those games on the road, he may only play against Col.... That would keep me in the running for 3 stud wingers to go along with my 3 headed monster....
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| 60 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 13:05
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Just looked at the same thing, bro-bookie. Giguere looks very attractive based on his schedule, performance (he averages 49 TSN/G to Brodeur's 52), playing time (he plays every fickin' game!) and price (a bargain at $5.24MM).
That would create some serious cash for other upgrades, as you said.
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| 61 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 13:06
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Oh, and since Brodeur idolizes Roy, and is going to eventually break Patrick's records, I bet with bit money Brodeur plays against Colorado. IF (he does not auto-sit back to backers) he sits, it'll be against Phoenix.
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| 62 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 13:10
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Not to mention that Anaheim, yes Anaheim is playing great lately.. Could they be this years Montreal?
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| 64 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 13:30
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Looks like we have found an answer to our near-term money woes, bookie. I like this giguere option A LOT. This means that instead of deadbeat Owen Nolan, on one of my teams, and Patrik Elias (upcoming 1 in 5) on my other,I can move them to say Glenn Murray or Alexei Kovalev. I like that better. Of course, Heatley and St. Louis aint bad value options neither. At the least, one could acquire Heatley and still have the giguerian leftover cash to move into another stud D-man.
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| 65 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Mon, Feb 10, 2003, 13:32
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Yeah, the 12th to the 19th looks really nice for Heatly, but then he'd have to be traded... St. Louis on the other hand is solid from the 14th at least through the end of the month.
Looks like we'll have some options.....
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| 66 | Hockey Ljusa Sidan
ID: 52555310
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 10:28
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People still going to Mario now, after the Kovalev trade?
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| 67 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 11:21
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Yep, tommorrow I'll get him back. I'm okay with Mario without Kovalev, he'll be fine.
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| 68 | Rogue Nine
ID: 141391015
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 11:37
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Ok, crunch time. First off, at around 67 mil, I can't afford all the studs mentioned above unless I grab Hackett again. So I'm moving to him for the 14th, when Boston plays Florida, Tampa, Nashville and Carolina. Not good teams by any stretch of the imagination, so even if he plays mediocre he should pick up 3 (maybe even 4) wins.
Also, Colorado has a 2-in-6 hole from the 14th to the 19th, while Boston has a 4-in-6. Also, Colorado plays Min and Chi, two pretty good defensive teams (#4 and #6 in GAA in the NHL) while Boston plays 4 pretty weak teams. Great time to gain some games IMHO for those of us who can't keep all studs.
So here's my moves:
Hejduk -> Murray on the 14th.
Elias (1-in-5 hole) -> Kariya (4-4-4 the next 3 weeks, can't miss IMHO.)
Forsberg -> Lemieux on the 14th.
And then next week, in time for Colorado to play Pit, NYI and NYR (3 very weak defensive teams in 4 nights):
Koivu (holding him for his 4 game week this week) -> Forsberg.
Murray or Jagr -> Hejduk.
I'm also holding Rob Blake as my 3rd D (after Gonchar/Mac) in the hope of having 3 truly stud D.
My plan hinges on Hackett doing well for Boston, but I like my odds there. He's a pretty decent goalie, and Boston's schedule is busy and easy.
I guess this is crunch time. I'll be using most of my trades too, so if this plan backfires I'm screwed. :)
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| 69 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 12:18
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dont forget about Shields! I seriously doubt Hackett will play all 4 of those. Maybe even 2.
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| 70 | Rogue Nine
ID: 141391015
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 12:25
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I don't really see Shields as a threat to Hackett's playing time. I think Shields has gone into a backup role, behind #1 Hackett. Boston played musical chairs at goalie all year so far, and I'm betting that they want a real #1 to take the helm and lead them in the playoffs. (Isn't that why they delt Grahame in the first place?) Nobody wants a goalie controversy come playoff time.
Also, Hackett has proven in the past that he could be a #1. The only reason he got relgated to a backup role was because Theodore pushed him out. (And went on to win the Vezina.) I guess this is just my Habs bias at work, but I'm betting Hackett shines in Boston, and plays 3 (maybe even all 4) games this week.
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| 71 | bookie
ID: 448382418
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 13:38
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Rogue, if you are right than we should all be jumping on Hackett and have nothing but studs in our forward positions.. Although Hackett will be the #1 goalie in Boston, I'd be surprised if he plays much more than 2 out of every 3 games... My guess is somewhere around 7 in 10.. Which at his price earlier in the season would have been a bargain.. but at this point in the season, I feel like your goalies need to play at least 80% of the teams games if not more...
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| 72 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 14:09
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and Hackett seems to have a bad tendancy of letting up 4-5 goals any given night I've noticed. I dont think that will go far in helping him secure even 70% of the starts.
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| 73 | walk
Leader
ID: 214581016
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 14:21
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Right J, bookie. I am not keen on the Hackett option (and not at all convinced they will win 3 or 4 of those road games; I say they win 2 at most). The price and roster flexibility reasons are good, but I do not predict he will gain anymore than 120 TSN for those four games combined.
- walk
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| 74 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 17152614
Tue, Feb 11, 2003, 23:35
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There goes the wrench!
I still have this old washed up guy named Roy. I could hold him and forget about Hackett and the 3HM. Tough because I was so set on it.
If Jason Blake continues to be the stud at under a mil, I may follow bookie and do the 2 slot rotation instead.
Turco with a few days off + possible injury. Seems like Gigure fills in nicely.
smallwhirled
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| 75 | roy4hockey
ID: 7130129
Thu, Feb 13, 2003, 19:37
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change of plans for me too. was planning on mario, forsberg and thornton for friday but i now have modano, forsberg and thornton and see no real reason to pick up mario after watching pitt's last game on the dish. have i gone crazy here? what's everyone else doing re mario???
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| 76 | Rogue Nine
ID: 421571316
Thu, Feb 13, 2003, 19:52
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I'm waiting to see how he plays. He seemed dispirited lately, trading Kovalev and all, and even hinted he might not play after this year. Signs he's hanging it up early? I wouldn't think so with Mario, but you never know.
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| 77 | Pancho Villa
Donor
ID: 51131320
Thu, Feb 13, 2003, 21:14
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I too have Modano, Thornton, and Forsberg. I was going to go and trade Modano for Mario 2 days ago but held off cuz' it just didn't feel right with Kovy being traded and Mario sounding frustrated. I will wait to see 2 more games from him whether or not to pick him up on the 18th although I am happy with my 3HM as it is for now. Only Modano has a hole in the sked and there isn't any one guy who stands out to fill it since his sked does get stronger on thr 19th. I'll decide when the time comes i guess.
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