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0 Subject: NHL Trade and Trade Rumor Thread (NOT fantasy)

Posted by: Ira
- [27771721] Sat, Mar 08, 2003, 22:05

With a couple days till deadline, I'd like to know the rumors and opinions you guys are hearing. Here in Edmonton, Todd Marchant and Anson Carter are the main rumors I'm hearing:
Isbister for Marchant
Battaglia and O'Neill for Carter and draft choice
Whitney for Carter
Sanderson for Carter
These are the main one's here in Edmonton.
1Ira
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      Sat, Mar 08, 2003, 22:15
Sim to Nashville

Ference to Phoenix
2StLCards
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      Sat, Mar 08, 2003, 22:22
Burke to St. Louis once they all agree on the young Blues prospects to include.
3Ira
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      Sat, Mar 08, 2003, 22:46
Another huge rumour is Tucker coming to Edmonton. That'd be great IMO.
4C.SuperFreaks
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 10:18
Marchment is now an Av. Sent draft picks to SJ.

Leafs Acquired Wesley for a draft pick.
5Ira
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 12:12
lol, I just read this morning's Edmonton Journal, and it said the Canes with probably trade Ward, and sign Wesley to another contract.. So much for that
6KWizard
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 12:21
Avs going after Damphousse.

http://www.tsn.ca/news_stories/32460.html
7Dan
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 12:30
I heard last night that they were going to trade one or the other in Ward or Wesley, well now that Wesley is gone don't expect Ward to go anywhere.
8ookpik
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 12:35
Leafs pick up D Glen Wesley from the Canes for a second round draft pick.

Leafs pick up Hurricane Wesley - Toronto Star

Hopefully this will not reduce Belak's minutes!
9Ira
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      Sun, Mar 09, 2003, 17:06
Robitaille to NYI (Randy that is)
10Synergy
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 00:00
something that could make sense for both the oil and the leafs is tucker for jason smith.
Smith's contract is a bit large for edmonton to handle, and the oil can use 2nd line scoring from tucker, and it'd shore up the leaf's defensive end.
11¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 11:26
From TSN.ca (March 10):

The Ottawa Senators added some more toughness to their lineup Monday, picking up Rob Ray from the Buffalo Sabres for future considerations.

In another deal, the Dallas Stars picked up defenceman Lyle Odelein from the Chicago Blackhawks for Sami Helenius and a draft pick.

12caribou
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 13:11
RUMOUR :

The habs Doug Gilmour might be delt to either Toronto or Dallas. He will not be in the lineup against Nashville tonight.

RDS
13C.SuperFreaks
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 13:12
New Jersey Devils have acquired Grant Marshall. Gave up a draft pick to CBJ.
14jrd
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 13:15
Stars also add Stu Barnes.
15Ira
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 17:33
Smehlik goes to the devils with Marshall
16The Left Wings
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 18:04
First blockbuster: Tony Amonte to the Flyers for some minor league guy, a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder.
17Ira
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 18:25
You beat me to it. Make that 2nd blockbuster. You're forgetting Nolan
18Ira
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      Mon, Mar 10, 2003, 18:28
Funniest thing ever: Click here and go to "Biggest Trade Ever" at the Right
19StLCards
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 00:00
Rumor: If Burke deal doesn't get done then Osgood to the Blues. That is the deal I think will happen. DiPietro was recalled after just being sent down too. I know alot of people don't agree, but I wouldn't mind seeing Osgood in goal for the Blues. In 75 playoff games he is 41-29 with a 2.2GAA. He is a free agent after this year so he wouldn't have to be a long term commitment.
20Filthy Rich
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 02:46
briere + pick for gratton
21The Left Wings
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 03:23
To Buffalo: Briere and 2004 3rd rounder
To Phoenix: Gratton and 2004 4th rounder
22Ira
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 10:10
CBC Satellite Hotstove seemed sure that Ray Whitney will be traded today
23simbot
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 10:17
Schneider to Motown for Kuznetsov, Avery, 1st in 03 and 2nd in 04.
24Dan
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 10:36
Wayne Primeau to SJ in exchange for Matt Bradley.
25Toral
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 12:01
The Fan 590 reports that Anson Carter has been traded to the Rangers. No further details.
26J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 12:15
Anson Carter, RW
Ales Pisa, D

FOR

Radek Dvorak, RW
Cory Cross, D
------------------------
Valeri Bure to the Blues for Mike Van Ryn (whooo?)
------------------------
Bates Battaglia to Colorado for Radim Vrbata
27walk
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      ID: 4112711
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 12:22
Hmmm, boy I liked Dvorak, too, but ever since they traded Hlavac, and he hurt his knee last year, he has been a dud. Too bad, but he is young and he will rebound.

Carter is more a natural scorer though, and should do well. Unfortunately, it's really too late for a team without chemistry and without games in hand.

We'll see who is on this real life fantasy team of our's next year, J (hint hint, it won't be Sather).

- walk
28J
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      ID: 49346417
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 12:34
you know what scares me, walk.

Since Sather knows his job is on the line, whats to stop him from trading Blackburn for say....some old guy who may help save his job this year.

Personally, I'd rather have them trade these guys for some draft picks and young guys and throw in the towel for the season
29walk
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      ID: 4112711
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 12:57
Good point, J. If Sather were to to that kinda thing, trade Blackburn, I would be so very bummed. He has already crushed the kid's soul, starting him 17 consecutive times, and then using him as sparingly as can be since then.

Hopefully, he does not make such a move in the next two hours. I think what Sather does not realize is that he needs some big, stay at home defensemen, to balance the 4 offensive-minded and one head-hunting defensemen he currently has (Poti, Malakhov, Leetch, Mironov and Kaspairitis). I imagine next year Darius and Boris are gone, and maybe they will have some more regular types in their place, but for now, as long as we give up high quality shots and odd-man rushes, we aint beating NJD and Ottowa and the likes to get into the playoffs.

Who knows who else will be gone next year. If Sather stays, and I doubt it, Holik might go because he is a very outspoken critic of the rangers offense-first system (and I think Holik is correct, and boy he is solid). Nedved, to me, has played well this year and seems to be more physical than ever, probably because he is not the first line center anymore. I hope he stays to skate with Bure or Kovalev next year. Messier will retire. Leetch should demand a trade, but he is a NYer and will stay.

And Lindros. Of all things. My biggest fear, of course, with him was his health. Who would have bet that he would give us pretty much two full seasons? But nooooo, this year, he is invisible. Invisible! The guy should have 70 points, with 30 goals in the equation, but he is like producing like a 3rd line center, who does not play tenacious two-way D. The only players on this team that are worthy of accolades this year are Leetch, Poti, Holik (IMHO, I love this guy) and Dunham. I could add others who have played "well," but these guys are the only one's who have truly stepped up.

10 SOG last night for Leetch (and one goal disallowed by a ref who must have relatives in south florida).

- walk
30Dec
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 13:21
I don't know anything about the salary of the players, but Carter for Dvorak is a no-brainer for the Rangers. But strange thing happen when players start playing in the big apple.
31The Left Wings
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 13:43
I would consider Kasparitis as a big, stay at home defenseman. That's not what the Rangers need. The Rangers need team chemistry, not any more players. You can't trade for a player and expect your team to suddenly play cohesively.

Ban the Rangers from trading and signing players for a year and we'll see how much better it'll be this time next season.
32Kelvin
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 13:50
doug gilmour a leaf agen ... cool
33walk
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 13:55
good point on your ban, TLW, but wrong on Darius being stay at home. He gets caught being on the ice for more bad goals against than any of our offensive minded D-men cause he is frequently straying from his position to make the big hit. We need a "normal" Dman or two, you are right, we need to just stay with the same bunch for a while. It's a vicious circle!

- walk
34StLCards
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 14:13
J Van Ryn is a defenseman for the Blues that played alot last year and I thought he would be starting this year. I'm not sure why he hasn't played more other than Jackman doing so well.
35¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
      ID: 272411113
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 14:41
The Edmonton Oilers have acquired Brad Isbister and Raffe Torres from the New York Islanders for Janne Ninnimaa, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick. (Source: TSN.ca)
36Rogue Nine
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 14:44
Milbury just doesn't know how to hang on to his young talent. First Luongo, now Torres. I guess Ninnimaa is worth it, but only if they turn that 2nd round pick into something good.
37Dec
      ID: 27226613
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 14:44
doug gilmour a leaf agen ... cool

How many hockey sticks the Habs get in return of this has been? 1, 2? good riddance!!!
38walk
      Leader
      ID: 214581016
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 14:57
Wait, there's more!

Steve Thomas to the Ducks from Chicago for a 5th round pick.

Jan Hrdina & Francois Leroux to Phoenix for Guillaume Lefebvre, Ramzi Abid and Dan Focht (I am assuming all are minor leaguers)

Smolinski to Ottowa from LA for Tim Gleason (I guess LA has packed it in)

- walk
39Rogue Nine
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:01
Osgood to Stl for Justin Papineau and draft picks.
40Toral
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      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:03
And the Blues get Chris Osgood!

And the Leafs get Phil Housley for a 4th and a 9th round pick!

And the Bruins get Dan McGillis for a second-round choice!

Toral

41walk
      Leader
      ID: 214581016
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:05
And more ...

Phil Housley to Toronto from Chicago for future considerations.

Ian Moran from Pittsburgh to Boston for 4th round pick.

Marc Bergevin to Tampa from Pittsburgh for Brian Holzinger.

- walk
42Kelvin
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:05
doug gilmour 2 toronto for shure now
43Ira@school
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:10
There goes any chances the Oilers may have had in the playoffs
44C.SuperFreaks
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      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:25
Berezin to Washington. Chicago gets a 4th rounder this year.
Rob Niedermeyer to Anaheim. Commodore and jf Damphousse to Calgary.
45walk
      Leader
      ID: 214581016
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 15:39
And Dean McAmmond back to Calgary for a 5th round pick (how demoralizing for McAmmond).

- walk
46Synergy
      ID: 34761420
      Tue, Mar 11, 2003, 17:13
man.. pittsburgh is a veritable ahl team now. who can take them seriously with the lineup that they have?
just neutralize lemieux
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