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Subject: Ultimate Trading January 6th and beyond
Posted by: Irish Red
- [23112586] Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 19:41
Time for a new thread.
I'll be moving Roberts, Sundin, and Datsyuk in the next few days. Was looking at Kovalchuk, Savard, and Comrie, but Savard's concussion is making me re-think that. Anyone else having second thoughts on Savard? Anyone have any real news on his concussion?
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| 1 | Great One
ID: 24018320
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 20:57
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I have planned all along to go Draper>Savard and have been psyched about it. But I just don't know what to do with this concussion thing... I have the money to go to to Kovalchuk instead, but I am trying to rock out the mid priced guys who are overproducing so I can have more of them - i.e. Savard...
Now that I think about it I could go Draper>Sakic (who I moved over the weekend to Weight)... a roundabout way to arrive with that lineup, but its not too bad.
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| 2 | R9
ID: 131191023
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 21:15
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Still a couple of days to wait and see on Savard. No need to decide anything yet.
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| 3 | Big Hoochie GP
ID: 221154245
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 00:30
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I'm picking up Comrie. Five games in 7 days + Primeau will be out for a couple of weeks, which means a little more ice time.
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| 4 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 01:47
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Comrie should make a lot of cash, especially if he keeps producing.. I'm very likely going Marleau -> Comrie
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| 5 | R9
ID: 21037523
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 02:04
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I'm tempted to go to him from Morrison, but my desired centers line up as Sakic, Weight and Savard. All have great schedules (after Weight's 3-day break) and all happen to lead all centers in TSNP/G. So Morrison -> Weight line up good after Van's B2B, and Sundin -> Savard whenever Mark is healthy is fine too.
So I think I'll pass on this one. Not like me to pass up money-making opportunities two days in a row, but you gotta go with your gut. ;)
Oh, and Kariya is playing tomorrow. Read it on the Avalanche official message board. Whoever posted the news left a link too if you guys want to check it. I'll probably go Naslund -> Kariya.
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| 6 | Destroy*
ID: 2001367
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 08:19
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I would be waiting a few games before getting Karya...go with forsberg and sakic instead...at worst, karya will have these guys produce also...
What do you guys think of Ryder in Montreal...
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| 7 | walk
Leader
ID: 32928238
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 08:51
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Sakic and Kariya to play tonight
Looks like Colorado will be fully staffed for their game against Columbus tonight.
- walk
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| 8 | Hockey Ljusa Sidan
ID: 117461716
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 09:34
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I really like Kovalchuk at 6.38M, now that Savard is out (?). Will prob go Datsyuk->Comrie...
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| 9 | R9
ID: 35111
Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 09:52
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After reading walk's link I'm pretty sure I'll be grabbing Kariya. (Already have Sakic and Forsberg.) He's been skating for a few weeks already since that didn't hamper his wrist any, and he's fully tested out his wrist in practice with full-contact drills. So he should be in decent shape and have no wrist problems.
It may be a gamble, but then I gambled with Mclennan and that turned out ok. :)
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| 10 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 121049522
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 10:55
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Tkachuk > somebody, probably Palffy.
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| 11 | simbot
ID: 541152140
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 11:10
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Osgood-->McLennan
Tkachuk-->Forsberg
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| 12 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 121049522
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 11:15
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Tkachuk > Palffy
Sundin > Stumpel
Datsyuk > probably Sakic tommorrow
Then maybe an upgrade into the 4 horseman in a few days for Forsberg, Naslund , Palffy, Tkachuk.
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| 13 | KWizard
ID: 26036710
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 11:39
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Sundin -> Comrie
Tkachuk/Roberts -> Recchi
Must have more RV...
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| 14 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 12:22
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late sorry. tkachuk-> Illya
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| 15 | R9
ID: 21058615
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 12:26
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Sundin -> Comrie
Roberts -> Nagy
Tkachuk -> Palffy
...and tomorrow I'll be going Zidlicky -> Blake. I'll have the cash to go Nagy -> Tkachuk later if I want at some point.
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| 16 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 16:00
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no one confident with Savard yet?
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| 17 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 16:03
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as I typed that... I got this from Rotoworld.
I will put it in the Injury Thread too.
It is unlikely that Marc Savard will play in any of the Thrashers' next three games, reports the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Savard, who sustained a concussion in Saturday afternoon's game against Montreal, did not travel with the team for this weekend's three-game western road trip. Keep Savard on reserve until next week.
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| 18 | R9
ID: 21058615
Wed, Jan 07, 2004, 16:48
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Comrie -> Savard looks to line up perfectly, assuming Comrie doesn't go off big-time and deserve long-term keeper status, and assuming Savard is healthy by the time the Thrashers finish their roadtrip.
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| 19 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 121049522
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 12:33
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Oh crap, I am trying to trade out of this slump.
Following up yesterdays round, I went:
Datsyuk > Sakic
Pilar > Chara
Broduer > Aebisher
I can't believe I traded Broduer, but again, I'm trying to trade out of the streak.
Chechoo > Tkachuk in a couple of days before trhe game to give me the 4 horsemen, crossing my fingers on Palffy.
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| 20 | R9
ID: 21058615
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 12:45
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I also went Brodeur -> Aebischer. I can go either Nagy -> Tkachuk whenever I want, or maybe Palffy -> Tkachuk if Ziggy is seriously hurt. I might also move into Pronger from Leopold since I have extra cash lying around.
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| 21 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 13:21
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I just can't trade Brodeur. Its gotta end. It just has to. I am banking my season on it. I gotta stick to my strategy. If I lose because Brodeur plays like this for the whole year... then I still think I made a good bet. I picked the best goalie there was and tried to ride him. It didn't work. But I will just wanna kill myself if I pull out and he runs off a few shutouts in a row and gets going again.
Trying to convince myself.
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| 22 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 13:28
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Got sick of the goalie carousel I've been on lately Theo (injured) to Osgood (injured) to Kiprosoff(injured) to Belfour(injured)to Lalime (injured) granted the Lalime was my fault for not checking it out. Picked up Luongo, has a decent sched,plays most of the games and while doesnt get big points very rarely gets negative. BTW my other goalie is Aeb. Also will go Palffy -Tchachuk if Ziggy is seriously hurt.
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| 23 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 13:53
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I traded out of Brodeur too...
Went Broduer -> Theo for a week.. after that I'm hoping to feel good about going back to Broduer...
Also went Sundin -> Sakic..
I made $640 in RV today.. unreal....
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| 24 | KWizard
ID: 3011343116
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 15:33
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I saw Hossa and Jason Blake in my dream last night. Definitely a sign that I watch too much hockey. So of course I picked up Hossa on one of my teams. Picked up Nabokov on one of my other teams.
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| 25 | Destroy*
ID: 49046814
Thu, Jan 08, 2004, 15:59
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Good afternon!
I traded the following this morning:
tkachuk-->hossa
roberts-->kovalchuk
donovan-->ryder
kept sundin (lost 100K today), sakic, comrie, forsberg, aebisher and theodore...my d-men are not worth mentionned except sourray (...suchy and zidlicki...)
Still made 500K...
R9 and Smallwhirled...you guys have so much money...It will soon be difficult to follow you...good job guys!
Have a good day!
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| 26 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:28
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Palffy- Tkachuk, Hossa, Alfredson unsure as of what to do right now.
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| 27 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:33
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I have no required trades today.. But if I feel like Tkachuk will go up today, I'll move Walker -> Takchuk one day earlier than planned.. Neither guy plays today and with palffy being hurt, I would think a lot of people will go Palffy -> Tkachuk
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| 28 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:36
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Anyone considering moving out of Souray for his 4 in 12 starting on the 11th? I might need the extra cash (currently $350K short) to go to Tkachuk on the 14th, and saw this as a possibility. It would be Souray to Zyuzin, and I would get back to Souray on the 23rd from Leopold. My other option is to go Leopold to Zyuzin, which is what I thought I was going to do yesterday.
Difference in the two options is an extra trade to do the Souray shuffle, plus points cost (if any) and $$'s if there is a large movement out of Souray.
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| 29 | R9
ID: 21058615
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:38
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Palffy -> Tkachuk. I figure Palffy will drop 50-100K, and Tkachuk hopefully less or possibly even. Off to class...
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| 30 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 121049522
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:44
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Destroy*, you've made up so much ground on me lately, nice run.
Here goes the trade bank I worked so hard on building up, I'm in absolute freefall now.
Palffy > Tkachuk I guess. Stumpel has been a horrendous pick for me now that he can't skate with Palffy. I need Naslund to pull me out of this freefall.
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| 31 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 10:59
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Red, my hope is that I can upgrade at that point and move Soura to one of Pronger, Blake or Chara and then get Souray back after he loses significant dollars from either Suchy or Leopold.... another option would be to grad whomever the masses migrate to out of Souray to make more money... but that would be an extra trade....
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| 32 | Big Hoochie GP
ID: 221154245
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 11:31
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I just dumped Souray for Sopel. Don't want to spend too much cash on my D.
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| 33 | KWizard
ID: 49029910
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 11:33
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Chara no longer on the top power play unit now that Havlat's back. Redden's the Ottawa D-man you want.
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| 34 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 12:05
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thanks for that info KWiz.... I'll keep my eye on that..
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| 35 | Meikkis
ID: 17036419
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 20:53
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Yep,
I think now is time to go Hunter > Tkachuk.
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| 36 | Rogue Nine
Leader
ID: 2624472
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 23:26
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Well bookie, sw... looks like we made the right move afterall. ;)
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| 37 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Fri, Jan 09, 2004, 23:29
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yeah.. Broduer let in a few.... I was none too happy at 1-1 going into the third with like 24 saves...
At some point I want him back, was thinking before the Ranger game this week, but the Devils will have to start playing a little better before than...
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| 38 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 10:49
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Is Souray going to leak money?Not sure if the time to move him is after his game against Pitt tonight or the B2B,but it seems this year it's better to move early than hold especially for the money.
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| 39 | Meikkis
ID: 17036419
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 10:55
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Anybody else buying Tkachuk ?
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| 40 | Irish Red
ID: 23112586
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 11:04
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I am waiting to see how Tkachuk looks tonight. I am holding Kariya in his spot, and the AVS play B2B. If Tkachuk is really all right, then I will pick him up on Monday.
Irish Red
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| 41 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 11:05
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I"m not got Forsberg, St. Louis, Iginla and Nagy will sell Nagy next week for someone and it might be Tkachuk.
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| 42 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 12:52
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Today's moves were:
Comrie -> Wieght.. Couldn't part with Spezza or Sakic
Walker -> Tkachuk
tommyd.. at the moment, I'm planning to gold souray until after the b2b.. he may leak a little over the next two days, but I doubt it will be significant.. after the b2b though he has 2 games in 8 days.. there I think will be the problem with such high ownership
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| 43 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 13:00
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True that's what I was thinking too because you dont' gain any games by moving him until after the B2B and he's been producing really well.I will probably upgrade the position.
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| 44 | Board_Wiper
ID: 2046816
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 16:33
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Bet you're glad you held huh bookie.
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| 45 | Great One
ID: 30071016
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 17:09
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yeah, well.. holding onto Souray working out... Brodeur? not so good.
STILL trying to convince myself to hold him but I am losing faith.
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| 46 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Sat, Jan 10, 2004, 20:57
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There was no doubt that I was holding souray for today.. the question that still remains is on the 15th, he starts a 2 in 8... With as high as his ownership is.. He stands to lose a ton of cash.. It might be worth a trade if he's going to lose a boatload of money...
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| 47 | Great One
ID: 30071016
Sun, Jan 11, 2004, 20:13
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This is the only thing... he is definitely up a ton and due to lose just by virtue of people cashing in. But there are no more then two consecutive days off, and at worst they are 3 game weeks. These huge nights are gonna definitely help hold off sellers too.
I - though always in the pursuit of money - like my chances of having Mr.Explosive Souray for 3 games a week vs. some other not as productive defensemen - which would be any other defensemen I guess - AND it would be a roundabout way to differentiate. And you will surely gain your money right back when his schedule picks back up. You only really lose the money if you sell him. I don't wanna start the opportunity cost money debate, but his price will come right back where it was and you will save some trades.
Thats my opinion. I am holding obviously.
AND finally... my patience with Brodeur paid off last night. Lets hope he gets rolling...
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| 48 | Rogue Nine
Leader
ID: 2624472
Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 00:53
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I haven't completely decided on Souray yet, but I'm leaning towards keeping him. Two trades (because I'd definitely want him back) to make maybe 500-750K is probably a decent deal, but more so earlier in the year then now. I need to save my trades to maximize what cash I already have, not make more...
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| 49 | Destroy*
ID: 3500129
Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 10:07
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smallwhirled, you are talking about a run...runs never last...I dont know how long I will be able to hold that position...you guys rock!
now I have to decide between moving out of théodore to osgood or out of kovalchuk into tkachuk...
have a good day!
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