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0 Subject: I actually believe what Mike Danton says

Posted by: The Left Wings
- [6142019] Sun, May 09, 2004, 07:17

Mike Danton's statement.

Usually, I'll immediately dismiss as plain BS when somebody claims that he/she was abused in their childhood, but in this case, I actually believes in Danton.

What kind of father would tell the media that his son "needs help"? In other words, he's saying that Danton needs to go to jail. That's just not what a "noraml" father would say. There's much hatred in the family.

The other funny thing is that the accusation is that Danton wants his agent/best friend, Frost, killed. But yet Frost is the person who's working his butt off to help Danton with things like arranging for a call with a newspaper.

I mean, if Frost, the alleged victim, doesn't seem to care about it and is even working against the police, why should the court care?
1kev
      ID: 3155515
      Sun, May 09, 2004, 12:59
I really don't know what to believe, but as for Frost organizing the call and statement, it could be as simple as he wants the world to know that he has done nothing wrong to Mike Danton, and that the people to blame are his parents.

It sounds like a very very confusing story, and I really have a hard time believing anything that either the parents or the agent say right now. I think Danton is a really confused young man.
2KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Sun, May 09, 2004, 18:02
What kind of father would tell the media that his son "needs help"? In other words, he's saying that Danton needs to go to jail.

I guess it depends on how you read it. The way I read it, I think Danton's father feels he needs psychiatric help, which very well may be true. There are plenty of cases where people have mental health problems and create situations and problems that don't exist. What if all the alleged abuse is just in Danton's head? What if he estranged himself because of some things that only exist in his head? It's certainly possible. And if that's the case, then he really DOES need help. Not jail, but psychiatric help.

And maybe Danton was planning on killing Frost and Frost just doesn't want to believe that it's true. Is that really a far-fetched idea? Especially if you're good friends with the guy? What if one of your good friends got arrested for plotting to murder you? It's not likely that you would believe the charges. However, if the evidence is solid and true, then that's what happened. Just because the alleged victim doesn't care, it's no reason to drop the prosecution. This is murder we're talking about here, not petty theft or battery. And again, what if the prosecution has evidence that proves the case beyond a reasonable doubt? What if, in the end, Frost realizes that Danton WAS trying to kill him? I bet he'd be pretty thankful that they continued the prosecution of the case despite his initial reactions.

Two things are certain. 1.) We don't know all the evidence the prosecution has, so it's early to say that they shouldn't prosecute and 2.) We don't know the full Danton story, so it's early to say that he does or does not have problems both with himself and his family.

3R9
      Leader
      ID: 2624472
      Sun, May 09, 2004, 18:42
I tend to lean towards the side believing Danton needs some psychiatric help. I certainly don't think very highly of Frost, and its not just because of this one incident. There have been lots of accusations against him from hockey player's parents, and he's been banned from coaching in a number of hockey leagues. Releasing a statement for Danton without even consulting with Danton's lawyer seems fishy as well. Since I doubt Danton is even allowed contact with outside sources, how do we know that Danton fully agreed to the statement to be made? He may have been coerced to say what he did. Perhaps he's done some things even worse that we don't know about, and Frost blackmailed him? Who knows?

Like KKB and kev said, there's so few facts publicly available that the best we can do is listen to a few media comments and form what is essentially an uneducated (uniformed?) opinion on the issue. But I'm certainly not ready to believe Frost, without some serious proof. The man just has too shady a past.
4The Left Wings
      ID: 6142019
      Mon, May 10, 2004, 17:51
Yeah, it crossed my mind also. How in the world would the police let Frost, the alleged victim, contact Danton, the guy who allegedly tried to have him killed?

But to me, his dad's response is just as bad as Danton's accusations. I suppose we still don't have enough info right now, so I guess I'll wait and see what happens.
5Punk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 36635522
      Wed, May 12, 2004, 14:10
From hearing both sides (although only through ESPN stuff), it sounds like Danton was brain washed.

Maybe those Canadians are trying to brain wash us Americans hahaha.
6KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 16:40
Mike Danton pleads guilty in murder-for-hire plot.

Former St. Louis Blues player Mike Danton admitted Friday that he sought to have his agent killed as part of a plot that unraveled when the would-be hit man turned out to be a police informant.

7The Left Wings
      ID: 6142019
      Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 23:32
I wonder how Frost thinks now...
8KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Mon, Nov 08, 2004, 19:32
Danton sentenced to 7-1/2 years.

Danton is expected to seek transfer to a prison in his native Canada. As for his hockey career, there is no parole in the federal system and, the judge noted, Danton may not be allowed to return to the United States after completing his sentence.

9Ira
      ID: 501035820
      Wed, Nov 17, 2004, 21:16
From HF:

'Just last week, in an Ontario Hockey League game between Kitchener and Oshawa, a fight occurred in the third period. A fifth-year junior named Adam Keefe jumped a rookie named Tom Jefferson and pounded him off a faceoff.

Keefe, brother of Sheldon Keefe, is a Frost kid. Jefferson is Mike Danton's estranged brother. When Frost came chasing years ago, Jefferson ran away.

"Can I prove Frost was involved? No," said Oshawa general manager Brad Selwood, who was irate over the fight. "Was it premeditated? I can tell you that absolutely it was." '

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NH.../11/710180.html


I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds deliberate. You've got Danton going to jail for allegedly hiring a hit man to kill Frost, and then one of Frost's clients, a 5th year player, beating up Danton's brother, who is a first year player? Someone get this Frost guy out of the game.
10Ira
      ID: 501035820
      Wed, Nov 17, 2004, 21:17
Sorry, here's the link:

link
11Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:36
David Frost faces sex charges.

The strangest part of this story to me was the following:
Frost is scheduled to appear Wednesday in court in Napanee, about 24.86 miles west of Kingston.

About 24.86 miles, huh? Nearly 24.86? As in, almost 24.86?

Them's some accurate measurements. I wonder if they had an AP reporter out there with a yardstick to get that level of precision.

12Little M
      ID: 0633189
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 12:39
The original story probably said about 40 kilometers and then AP converted it to miles.
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