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Subject: The Hockey Lockout
Posted by: C.SuperFreaks
- [24853120] Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 19:55
Here's your chance to have your say about the lockout.
There's a 2 part series on the CBC. Tonight, Sept 21, it's Gary Bettman's turn to answer your questions. Tomorrow it's Bob Goodenow's.
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| 1 | The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 01:30
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I watched some of the "highlights" on The Score. I'm leaning more and more towards the owners. Bob Goodenow just wasn't answering any of the questions directly. He keeps blaming the owners for locking them out, when it is the players who created the situation. He's acting like they are forced to go on strike, when in fact the average player will still be making more money each year than 99% of the fans.
There's this one kid who said that he would give anything to play just one game in the NHL, and Goodenow was like "OMG!!! We're locked out!!! We can't play even if we wanted to!!!"
Some lady asked him about the nice cap that's going on in the NFL and NBA, and Goodenow said that some teams are still losing money, therefore the cap doesn't solve the problem. Has it ever occurred to him that most teams would lose a lot less money? He probably knows this, but he's just trying to fool the TV viewers.
Some email asked him if the players have any idea what their average salary is compared to that of an average fan, and Goodenow was like "WTF? Player salary has nothing to do with ticket price!!! It's all about supply and demand!!!" What a piece of BS. Everybody knows that high-priced tickets <= more high-priced players, and more high-priced players = bigger chance you get a good player (unless you're the Rangers).
He's basically blaming everybody else except the players' greed. If the league is losing less money by locking out than actually playing, then it's the players who are killing the league.
I think the players can kiss my ass. They are acting like they're gonna starve to death if the salary cap is put in place, and I have a very big problem with that.
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| 2 | wolfer
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Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 13:12
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So what did Bettman say?
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| 3 | Silentz
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Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 17:56
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TLW, I think you hit it on the head. The players don't want a cap because they're afraid they won't make what they're worth. That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. What's league minimum for salaries these days? I wonder if they do realize how long it takes even a well paid person to make as much as they do. Shame on the whole bunch of them. The owners for agreeing to pay these huge salaries and the players for being too narrow-minded to accept the facts.
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| 4 | Silentz
ID: 479231410
Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 17:58
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Oh, by the way, in a normal 40 hour a week job, Jagr would make $5288.46 an hour. I just don't know how he makes ends meet!!
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| 5 | R9
Leader
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Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 18:08
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I mostly agree, except that I don't hold all the players at fault. The majority of them are basically idiots when it comes to finances and such, so when their union head comes to them and says something along the lines of 'we need to be a united front, so just back us up' they fall in line. (Especially since backing each other up is one of the big things that hockey players do for each other on the ice.) They don't really have a clue what's what though, and would probably admit as much if asked about it.
To me, the union chiefs wield(sp?) far too much power. Whereas the owners are a true united front, in that each person pretty much knows exactly whats going on, the union's side is run by about 20 people.
So yeah, I hate the owners for allowing things to get to this point, I hate the union for being a bunch of hardasses (How's 0$ a year for life sound instead? lol), but I also recognize that the average NHL player is out of the loop. I mean cmon, they're HOCKEY players, how smart do you think they are? ;)
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| 6 | Silentz
ID: 479231410
Fri, Sep 24, 2004, 13:00
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Is it just me, or is Goodenow really that delusional?
"Actor R.H. Thomson, in the studio audience, said ticket prices are too high and wanted to know where consideration for fans comes into play. Goodenow brushed that one off by saying there is no correlation between ticket prices and players' salaries. Supply and demand determines ticket prices and not team payrolls, he said. "
What??? Where does he think the players salaries come from?? TV revenue?? This guy really pisses me off.
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