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0 Subject: Yahoo Fantasy Hockey League Draft thread Part 2

Posted by: philflyboy
- [51752415] Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 09:27

other thread was getting a little long so I started a new one
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187tommyd7878
      ID: 16728922
      Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 19:21
Sorry guys I've been very busy with work and such, I am still very interested and have made my two picks like KKB said I did nto realize I had timed out on my first pick and that I had to make two.
188barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 20:20
anyone in the bottom half of the draft around to take a queue for me?
189philflyboy
      ID: 127332712
      Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 20:36
I'm around
190The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 23:18
I'll be picking soon.
191The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 00:17
Yahoo's got Matt Cooke listed as a Center... I'm almost positive he's going to be playing as a Left Winger this season in Vancouver, so when can i expect a position update? If any?
192mMoses
      ID: 51115143
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 01:17
191:

I'd guess after the first week, unless they're too busy. Then, maybe two weeks? Perhaps even after the first game... It's a tossup, really. But if he is playing LW instead, it will very likely get changed sooner or later.
193Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 01:22
I think there is a minimum number of games for him to play before Yahoo will change him. I'll check out the rules in the morning and check what the exact number is.
194The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 02:34
I did peruse the "Help" section on the Yahoo page, but they made no mention of what the prerequisite was for the position change.

They did however have this to say, "All position eligibility requests are reviewed by Yahoo! Sports and confirmed with our hockey sources. Due to the nature of the review process, we are unable to comment on each individual player request."

Sounds to me like it's on a request basis... If that's the case, then ill be on thier case early about Cooke.
195barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 09:38
I've spent the last little while entering our present rosters onto our Yahoo teams, but it seems like Yahoo has removed all the retired players.


So instead of having retired players put onto teams as placeholders for rookies not yet in the database, I will pick some very unknown players instead. It shouldn't be a problem, as I foresee all the rookies taken so far being added within the first week.
196The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 12:13
pfb, im going to have to rescind my trade offer, probably before you've even had a chance to see it, lol.
197barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 12:19
Sweet...we are done! (Well at least I am!)

I am entering the teams as we speak, and I can have them done pretty much right after the last pick. The only catch is that KKB needs to tell me who he wants to drop before I can submit them as official.

As for the players not in the database, I will post a list here on this thread of who I put in as substitutes.
198KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 13:00
barilko6, I'll let you know once the draft is complete. I don't want to influence the draft with who I drop.
199isles72
      ID: 395412514
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 13:34
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel I see ?
200barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 19:04
I suggest we don't stop the clock at 9:00 tonight so that we can just run this draft out to the end...We seem to always get stuck on Hubble and Tommy.


That way I can input all the teams tonight, have our 2 day waivers, and still make moves before the first game.

Any thoughts?
201Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 19:33
Sounds good to me. Let's get it done.
202KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 158202318
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:03
I suggest we don't stop the clock at 9:00 tonight so that we can just run this draft out to the end...We seem to always get stuck on Hubble and Tommy.

I don't see how that's going to happen at this point given that Hubble has been skipped and Tommy has made his pick.

Further, why penalize the last few managers just because a few people want to finish tonight? Is there seriously THAT big of a difference between finishing tonight and finishing tomorrow morning (if it comes to that)? There will still be time to "input all the teams, have our 2 day waivers, and still make moves before the first game" even if we finish by tomorrow night, which is guaranteed at this point.

Telling those managers at the end of the draft that they don't get the same luxuries as the rest of us just because you feel like it is far from fair.
203R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:05
While that is true, there's only 3 of us left and I'm here for the night (and my queue is out there) so if the other two are in the whole thing is moot.
204KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 158202318
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:11
Trust me, I don't mind if we finish tonight. But, to simply toss out the rules our draft has used for 20+ rounds just to finish tonight, particularly when it affects managers who clearly can't respond if they need that clock, is completely unfair.
205barilko6
      ID: 07381514
      Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 22:39
re 200 and 202

I guess my intent wasn't clear...i am heading out tomorrow for a couple of days and wanted to make sure things were set before I left.
206The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 00:18
Maybe someone else could finish that up for you. That is, if you don't mind passing the login info along to someone else.
207R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 13:59
Good draft everyone, we got done in plenty of time.
208C.SuperFreak
      ID: 53771616
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 15:02
sorry for the delay. All done. Let the jockeying begin....
209KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 15:52
Now that the draft is over... drop my last pick, Svatos, please.
210The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 18:19
Will we be doing a recap thread?
211The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 22:22
I'm up for that. Since barilko is out for a bit I'll fire one up...
212barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 09:34
Hey all...

Got back earlier than expected, so I will have the players entered by noon.
213isles72
      ID: 395412514
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 06:04
can we start ''playin the game now'' ??

as in dropping injured players in favor of healthy ones - like KRONWALL

thanks
214R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 07:07
Teams are loaded in, and waivers is turned on. You can start replacing your duds anytime. :) Anyone looking to trade, I'll be looking for a D and/or a LW if Boynton and/or Kovalchuk persist in their stupidity...
215barilko6
      ID: 07381514
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 08:32
Yep...

Trade away...

Let the games begin!
216barilko6
      ID: 07381514
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 08:33
ps..

I have too many RW and C's, should anyone be looking to deal
217The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 09:09
Anybody want to take a stab at organizing that Rationale thread? Would also be nice if everyone could finish off the rest of thier entries before the puck gets dropped, and we get underway.
218isles72
      ID: 395412514
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 12:35
I have no time to add why I picked which player and what time of day I did so etc...

sorry man ....
219KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 30833018
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 12:45
From the rationale thread...

The more games he starts the more his awful GAA and SAV% will affect PD's ratios. To me, he's like having a SP in baseball who gets 200 IP of 5.00 ERA 1.40 WHIP. No thanks.

R9, how do you figure that? Here's WAS's W-L-T with Kolzig's corresponding GAA and Sv%

2003: 23-46-10, 2.89, .908
2002: 39-29-8, 2.40, .919
2001: 36-33-11, 2.79, .903
2000: 41-27-10, 2.48, .909
1999: 44-24-12, 2.24, .917
1998: 31-45-6, 2.58, .900
1997: 40-30-12, 2.20, .920

Kolzig is consistently right around his career averages of 2.56 GAA and .909 Sv%, even "last" year when the team was horrible. Obviously, his W total dipped "last" year, but if he can manage 20 W's, a 2.60 GAA, and .910 Sv%, he'll be a solid pick in the 11th round.

Compare it more to someone like Kevin Millwood: 192 IP, 2.86 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, and only 9 Wins.
220isles72
      ID: 395412514
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 13:19
I wouldnt write off the caps or the rangers just yet ....

they might not be all that great on paper - the new rules coupled with the tighter calls from the refs = uncharted waters IMO ....

the caps could very well be a .500 team
221Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 13:21
For what it's worth, I'm not looking for stellar numbers from him, just a large number of consistent starts. I'm not going to win any goalie stats with these guys, but the idea is to keep in the middle on the netminder stats while the offensive guys do their thing.
222R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 16:34
Even if he does what he did in 2003, a 2.89 GAA is awful. Thats like a 5.00 ERA to me. About as far as you can get actually to the AL-leading ERA of Kevin Millwood. ;) More like a Runelvys Hernandez, who got 8 wins (meh) and 87 K's (meh) in 155 IP. His ratios were awful too.

At some point the return on investment is negative, at least when compared to what else could be had, and imho Kolzig could be close to zero there. I think hoping he can get a 2.60 GAA on a worse team then when he got a 2.89 is a tad unrealistic...
223Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 16:42
With the long layoff, it'll be interesting to see how well the teams actually do. My guess is that the goalies are going to have the upper hand early on since offensive timing will need to be rebuilt on some of these teams from scratch. Even lines that have played together haven't done so in a long time.
224KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 30833018
      Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 20:26
Yeah, Millwood was a bad example, but that 2.86 GAA was also the highest of Kolzig's career since he became a full-time starter. I would expect him to be more around the respectable 2.50 again. Their D is young and has some experience, so I would actually expect them to be better than "last" year.

Besides, they're not doing so bad tonight after a game last night (both games against predicted offensive powerhouses). ;)
225C.SuperFreak
      ID: 52857309
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 01:24
Well, I received my answer from yahoo regarding players...sort of.

I asked a question regarding about why some players who have played in the league are not in the db while some rookies are.


Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Fantasy Sports.

Due to NHLPA rules, no rookie or player rejoining the league can be
added to Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Hockey until after he joins the union and
plays a game this season. All players added to the game will be
introduced to the player pool via waivers. Rookies and veterans who are
not in the game will be added to the available player pool as soon as
possible during the season.

There is no set timeframe for the addition of new players, so you may
not see player additions on the day following their NHL debut. To view
the latest additions and position eligibility news, please click the
"Player Adjustments" link from your league overview page.

Thanks for your patience as we update our available player list.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Marshall

Yahoo! Customer Care
226The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 01:54
It would be nice to have Vanek on my team to start things off, but then again, it might be even better if PD didn't have access to Ovechkin for a while ;-)...
227mMoses
      ID: 51115143
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 06:08
A quick comment/question:

new/added players will be added to waivers...

is it fair to force these teams to move to waiver priority 14~ to add their -drafted- players?

or will the commish be moving these players onto our teams for us?

drunk q's,
mMoses
228barilko6
      ID: 10839137
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 08:30
I can move them onto the rosters and reset the priority list.

My question is...if that is Yahoo's rule on rookies, how did Crosby slip in?
229KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 3895626
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 09:18
My question is...if that is Yahoo's rule on rookies, how did Crosby slip in?

Oh, you missed the fine print...

"This rule only applies for rookies not named Crosby, who if we didn't add would result in millions of emails asking why he's not available to draft."

Same reason Smallworld offered ARod at 3B a few years ago and didn't make the same position switch for many other players who were known to be switching positions.
230R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 09:27
"• Most rookies will be unavailable until they have played in at least one professional game. Rookies currently available appear via special agreement."

From the Yahoo homepage, according to Taxman in the ATHS thread.
231barilko6
      ID: 07381514
      Sun, Oct 02, 2005, 12:19
"This rule only applies for rookies not named Crosby, who if we didn't add would result in millions of emails asking why he's not available to draft."


too funny...
232Hubble
      ID: 59562922
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 18:17
When i drafted, Daze was listed as RW in yahoo... now he appears to be LW... it kinda ruins my LW/RW situation... oh well, probably one of you guys is in the same situation...

I'd be willing to trade for a RW or/and a D...
Willing to give LW or C...

This can be big trade or small... :)
233isles72
      ID: 395412514
      Sat, Oct 08, 2005, 18:30
how do you like that luongo pick now ??

:0
234Hubble
      ID: 59562922
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 00:13
Shouldnt we start a regular season thread?
235The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 06:56
Check here.
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