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0 Subject: Anyone running a player ownership details

Posted by: RecycledSpinalFluid
- Dude [204401122] Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:12

With all the brain (coding) power that I know that plays hockey, is there someone out there that is already planning on gathering the ownership data?

Just want to know before I start to work something up. If I do it, I'd need someone's account details since I'm not playing...
1RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:12
Above is referring to TSN.
2TT
      ID: 52715301
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:14
You can have mine if needed. Plz let me know if me and my friend can do anything to lighten the load. We will do what we can. Of course I am not the programer of the two, so I cannot really say much.

Wouldn't it be the same one u use for basketball anyways?
3TT
      ID: 52715301
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:16
ps: And thx for this.
4ZEUS
      ID: 5888196
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:53
How is that generated anyway...I always wondered that...
5TT
      ID: 52715301
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 15:01
This is how I understand it. Every team has a team id. And you can look at their team if you put in their team_id in the url. What RSF's program does is it goes into everyones team id and spits out the relevant information.
6ZEUS
      ID: 5888196
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 15:05
Cool, thanks for the explanation. So, does his program work right now or does TSN block access at certain times?

Meaning = can anyone develop a program to get at anyone's players?
7RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 15:08
What it does is read the Frozen Rosters URL. This info will become available after the first roster freeze (I'm not a hockey guy, so I don't know if that has already happened).

The script then just parses out the info I want (SWPs, Players, Roster Value, Trades, etc) and puts it into a database.

Then I'll have another script generate the HTML source for post here or on a seperate website.
8ZEUS
      ID: 5888196
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 15:11
Cool, thanks RSF.

On a side note: I used to work for TSN - back in the Smallworld days. Things were wide open back then so just curious if they have secured the hatches, so to speak.
9TT
      ID: 52715301
      Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 15:20
Season starts Wed Oct 5th. So the first roster freeze is Thursday Oct 6th 11pm est.
10Little M
      ID: 46881516
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 17:43
Has this been set up yet? I'm curious to see which players were the big pick ups.
11The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 22:50
I don't know who's been picked up, but I have a survey of 56 random teams' initial rosters. Here's the top 10 in ownership:

Heatley, Ozo, Kipper, Spezza, Grahame, Palffy, Visnovsky, Crosby, Comrie, Gonchar

These were the only ones on 10 or more rosters of the 56, and none were on more than 34%.
12RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 23:15
TT, drop me the account details to: RecycledSpinalFluid @ gmail.com
13TT
      ID: 52715301
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 00:01
Sent.
14TT
      ID: 52715301
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 00:10
Plz send me an email telling me if it works or not.
15RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 07:33
Yeah, it'll work.

Does anyone have a list of the players and their TSN ID Numbers (in a TXT or CSV file like):

TSN_ID#, Player_Name_First, Player_Name_Last

Or something remotely like that?
16Horne_Dawg
      ID: 1011111620
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 10:14
RecycledSpinalFluid Try this link

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/images/hockey/fullseason/ultimate/2005_ult_hockey_prices.xls
17The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:28
RSF, TSN_ID# matches up with the IDs at yahoo.com and the stats page will list all skaters with all goalies on another page, so if you can paste it once with the names and once with the URLs that should get you the info needed.
18RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:31
Yep..pulled them about an hour ago. Made a nice little script to do the dirty work for me.
19The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:32
Good, because I was too dumb to get the URLs to come down right. I'm trying to use OpenOffice to do this but it's macro language doesn't hold a candle to VBA so I'm going to have to break down and buy an old copy of Office 97 to do this right. :)
20RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:32
I have the data from first roster freeze, but will run for second one tonight, (then third in AM).
21RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:33
I'm just using some straight VBS and bypassing using Excel or anything else anymore (outside the Access DB).
22The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:37
Cool, thanks for doing this - it's always fascinating to see what everyone else is doing.
23RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:41
Here's the top 50 from the first roster (in a very rough display):
Player Name Count
Jason Spezza 1045
Alexander Ovechkin 920
John Grahame 913
Dany Heatley 830
Sandis Ozolinsh 764
Miikka Kiprusoff 684
Zigmund Palffy 660
Sergei Samsonov 589
Jaromir Jagr 557
Sergei Gonchar 529
Manny Legace 516
Brandon Bochenski 489
Sidney Crosby 489
Patrice Bergeron 488
Jarome Iginla 470
Henrik Zetterberg 436
Lubomir Visnovsky 413
Pavel Datsyuk 374
Simon Gagne 357
Pavol Demitra 347
Dominik Hasek 345
Robert Lang 335
Joe Thornton 321
Mike Comrie 294
Rick Nash 282
Ryan Malone 280
Andrew Hutchinson 277
Jon Sim 277
Jiri Slegr 275
Daymond Langkow 274
Darryl Sydor 265
Kari Lehtonen 255
Tuomo Ruutu 253
Michael Nylander 249
Vincent Lecavalier 245
Jeff Carter 235
Rick DiPietro 230
Nicklas Lidstrom 227
Eric Desjardins 227
Robert Esche 226
Ty Conklin 207
Ales Hemsky 196
Teemu Selanne 196
Thomas Vanek 194
Nikolai Zherdev 188
David Aebischer 186
Jose Theodore 182
Sean Burke 180
Dick Tarnstrom 178
Tony Amonte 177

These numbers come with a full, I repeat FULL, no money back guarantee for their accuracy.
25TT
      ID: 52715301
      Sat, Oct 08, 2005, 07:02
I would think more ppl have Lemeiux. I don't even see him in the top50.
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