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0 Subject: Price Movers-Oct 6

Posted by: Little M
- [46881516] Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 10:26

Since TSN doesn't seem to know what it is doing, does anyone want to share the bigger price movers that they have seen.

I have seen Ovechkin up $40, Jagr up $40 and Grahame up $50.
1TT
      ID: 52715301
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 10:32
Legace +50k

Bochenski -10k.

Is it just me or does gravity not seem to exist?
2caribou
      ID: 17956613
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 11:15
Graham = +50k
Spezza = +10k
Bergeron = +10k
3Horne_Dawg
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      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 11:22
Grahame = +50K
4Little M
      ID: 46881516
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 11:38
I see Legace at +30k.

The price changes seem to be much smaller than I would have anticipated. I haven't seen anything greater than 50k.

5Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 12:30
Should the price changes be substantial though? I mean i would imagine that most teams have held on to 4 of the 5 trades at least, so not much activity would lead to smaller gains.
6Balrog
      Dude
      ID: 02856618
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 12:52
In the free game they're showing Garon with a $2.63M price gain. I knew I shouldn't have swapped Graham for him. ;)
7Little M
      ID: 46881516
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 13:33
Re: Post 5

People on this board who know way more about this than I do have said that the price formula is based on percentage of trades, not the total number of trades. So, there is usually more large gains and losses on days when fewer trades are made.
8Horne_Dawg
      ID: 1011111620
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 13:33
its a mistake, he still cost 4,500,000. Thats what he started with.
9R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 14:06
Post 7, only if those trades are concentrated on one or two key players. In this case, there was probably enough differentiation to have only a few top 50K.
10The Dienasty
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      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 14:41
These price movers are surprising to say the least... Not a typical start at all.
11TT
      ID: 4922714
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:23
Don't forget most people probably started the season with guys like Grahame, Jagr, Ovechkin. So there really isn't much more ppl that can buy them.
12Little M
      ID: 46881516
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:28
A total of four players with changes greater than 10k. Only 27 players with a positive price change. This does not look right.

I wonder if they are using a smoothing formula like they do for starting pitchers in baseball.
13TT
      ID: 4922714
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:36
There is always a smoothing formula Little M. This is so players cannot gain or lose ridiculous amounts of money.

Well it seems they changed for formula for gravity. Now gravity is -20k instead of the usual -10k. So it would appear it requires more buys than before to gain in price. That is to say the threshold for player ownership has increased.
14R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:41
Gravity was always -20k in all TSN games.
15TT
      ID: 4922714
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:44
? In basketball it has always been -10k.
16Little M
      ID: 46881516
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 16:48
If I remember correctly, gravity used to be -30k in hockey and then they reduced it to -20 a couple of years ago.
17The Beezer
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      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 18:13
Top gainers:
Player Team TSNP Price 10/06
Grahame, John TB 68 $3,280,000.00 $50,000.00
Ovechkin, Alexander WAS 86 $4,290,000.00 $40,000.00
Jagr, Jaromir NYR 188 $6,460,000.00 $40,000.00
Legace, Manny DET 112 $5,140,000.00 $30,000.00
Dunham, Mike ATL 12 $3,450,000.00 $10,000.00
Visnovsky, Lubomir LA 81 $2,880,000.00 $10,000.00
Parise, Zach NJ 110 $2,510,000.00 $10,000.00
Campbell, Brian BUF 49 $800,000.00 $10,000.00
Desjardins, Eric PHI 54 $1,690,000.00 $10,000.00
Sydor, Darryl TB 10 $1,840,000.00 $10,000.00
Theodore, Jose MON 130 $7,510,000.00 $10,000.00
Kolzig, Olaf WAS 84 $5,300,000.00 $10,000.00
Zubov, Sergei DAL 95 $3,740,000.00 $10,000.00
Kaberle, Tomas TOR 52 $2,950,000.00 $10,000.00
Miller, Ryan BUF 34 $2,010,000.00 $10,000.00
Spezza, Jason OTT 74 $5,450,000.00 $10,000.00
Roenick, Jeremy LA 82 $4,380,000.00 $10,000.00
Hossa, Marcel NYR 60 $510,000.00 $10,000.00
Chouinard, Marc MIN 161 $2,110,000.00 $10,000.00
Bergeron, Patrice BOS 33 $3,640,000.00 $10,000.00
Datsyuk, Pavel DET 76 $5,540,000.00 $10,000.00
Zetterberg, Henrik DET 76 $4,180,000.00 $10,000.00
Gionta, Brian NJ 113 $3,820,000.00 $10,000.00
Zubrus, Dainius WAS 92 $2,450,000.00 $10,000.00
Bouchard, Pierre-Marc MIN 79 $1,710,000.00 $10,000.00
Holmstrom, Tomas DET 109 $2,880,000.00 $10,000.00
Prospal, Vaclav TB 87 $4,910,000.00 $10,000.00

Top Losers:
Name Tm Pos Next Price Change
Lehtonen, Kari ATL G 10/7 WAS 4.45M -.05M
Sundin, Mats TOR C 10/08/05 7.21M -.03M
512 tied at -20
Khabibulin, Nikolai CHI G 10/7 SJ 7.24M -.01M
Nash, Rick CLS W 10/7 CAL 5.51M -.01M
Ruutu, Tuomo CHI C 10/7 SJ 3.64M -.01M
Morozov, Aleksey PIT W 10/7 CAR 3.82M -.01M
Bochenski, Brandon OTT W 10/8 BUF 2.54M -.01M
Palffy, Zigmund PIT W 10/7 CAR 6.24M -.01M
DiPietro, Rick NYI G 10/8 CAR 5.25M -.01M
Aebischer, David COL G 10/8 DAL 6.74M -.01M
Delmore, Andy CLS D 10/7 CAL .76M -.01M
Nurminen, Pasi ATL G 10/7 WAS 3.99M -.01M
Esche, Robert PHI G 10/7 NJ 6.99M -.01M
Elias, Patrik NJ W 10/7 PHI 6.49M -.01M
Gerber, Martin CAR G 10/7 PIT 4.49M -.01M
Zhamnov, Alexei BOS C 10/7 BUF 3.99M -.01M
Thibault, Jocelyn PIT G 10/7 CAR 6.24M -.01M
Sim, Jon PHI W 10/7 NJ 1.84M -.01M

Gravity is at -20K this year.
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