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Subject: Week 9 Trades
Posted by: Ira
- [401017811] Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 23:17
Went Desjardins>Meszaros
With a combined -240K btw Ilya & Savard, would I be best off trading into Heatley/Alfie & Spezza today?
I was oringinally planning
Demitra>Spezza on Friday
Kovalchuk>Gagne on Tuesday
Savard>Marleau/Thornton on Fri. 12/16
I guess plan B would be
Savard>Spezza tomorrow
Kovalchuk>Heatley/Alfie tomorrow
Demitra>Jokinen tomorrow |
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| 91 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 03:11
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Hmm... Tkachuk is emerging as a very interesting option from Kovalchuk on 12/16
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| 92 | caribou
ID: 371129118
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 10:37
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I'm glad I kept Jagr for his St-Louis game (4 points)....and now he is done !
Jagr > Nagy
2 trades left, Can you suggest me a D to replace Vishnovsky from LA (his next game is the 14th)?
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| 93 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 10:58
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Keep the trade, his schedule is still very good after the break. He won't lose big money because there are so many other fishes to fry right now.
Gagne => Nagy
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| 94 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 11:13
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Early games today.
Get your trades done early if you are making some moves:
Chicago-Atlanta 2pm est
Coyotes-Bruins 5pm est
Devils-Blue Jackets 5pm est
Tkachuk, Turco, Grahame (9 straight wins).....interesting options.
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| 95 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 12:10
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Between Frolov going fown and Nagy going up in price yesterday, I'm about a dollar short from being able to pull Frolov --> Nagy and Tellqvist --> Joseph today. Would have to go Demitra --> Comrie as well leaving me with no trades, which is not really an option. Hmmm. So I guess it's just Frolov --> Nagy for me today.
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| 96 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 12:50
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92: I agree with CrazyClowns.
My lesson from the recent spate of injuries is that it's rarely a bad move to save a trade when you don't have to make it, and this is a prime example of a time that you don't have to make it.
He's a mid-priced D, not a stud forward. His break isn't that big, and then LA has one of the best schedules in the league through December.
Save your trades for the studs and for injuries.
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| 97 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 13:17
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Wow, I'm lovin that Gagne -200K hit...
This is like a bad twilight zone
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| 98 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 00:48
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Spezza questionable for monday's game against the Avs.
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| 99 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 00:52
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I'm holding no matter what....well for Monday at least. No other center who plays on Monday interests me.
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| 100 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 00:55
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Not wishing misfortune upon anyone but if Spezza is unable to play, his bad-as-it-is 2-in-7 becomes even less enticing 2-in-8, if the injury is minor that is. Center is not the deepest position but if Spezza sits, I'll turn him into Datsyuk for short term, or Forsberg to be held until the cows come home and beyond.
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| 101 | Tuques
ID: 301044298
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 08:06
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This morning finally got rid of Connolly at center for Datsyuk...
Holding on Spezza...
Tuques
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| 102 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 10:16
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Centre Jason Spezza, the [Senators'] leading scorer, confirmed yesterday he needs some time off to rest an aggravated right hip flexor that has hampered him for the past week. That means Spezza, who has 11 goals and 32 assists in 27 games, won't play tonight against the Colorado Avalanche (9 p.m., Rogers Sportsnet) and he's doubtful for Thursday night, when the red-hot Dallas Stars visit the Corel Centre.
Sell sell sell! The guy is owned by practically every active team and some inactive ones as well, plus it's the end of the trading week meaning the money-fluctuations will be substantial. Datsyuk or Forsberg? Hmmmm...
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| 103 | walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 10:34
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Eeeesh, I gonna get killed by Spezza on one team for sure. I used up all of my trades on other injuries! I don't have any left...to many injuries (3 trades this week for Vokoun, Desjardins and Gagne and 2 others used to get Alfie and Heatley, which of course, have not panned out). I have 1 trade left on another team, and that's be Spezza --> Forsberg.
- walk
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| 104 | walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 10:37
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Oh, and that article mentions that Redden had a set-back and is now out indefinitely, again. I have him, too -- with no trades. Oy veh, I wish I could say it was due to poor trade management, but I have made only a few non-injury-related trades over the past 2 weeks. I assume some others are in my boat.
- walk
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| 105 | Tuques
ID: 301044298
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 10:53
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I'm in the same boat and I used my last trade of the week to go with Datsyuk from Connolly, hoping for a start from Spezza tonight...
I've just been horrible in the past 2 weeks so I guess it will just continue....
Tuques
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| 106 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 10:54
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Oh great, that Demitra > Spezza trade is looking almost as good as the Lundqvist > Vokoun trade I made last week.
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| 107 | Richard
Dude
ID: 204252420
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:02
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Thanks to an aggressive trade-burning move into Ottawa players early in the trade week, I've been on a downward accelerating slide out of the top 100 (38th to 100th to ???). Sometimes this game is just down right cruel.
Currently holding (not by choice but lack of trades) Gagne, Spezza and Redden. It's been a rotten week.
Richard
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| 108 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:35
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K guys seriously
this isn't cool
I have Gagne, Lundqvist, and Spezza, and no trades.
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| 109 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:39
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Wow, the center options right now are so bad that one could easily do worse than go right back to Demitra, this at the beginning of his 1 in 4.
Forsberg, even without Gagne and Pitkanen to pass to, seems like the likeliest option, but here's a question for you... if you were an insurance company, who would you consider to be the biggest injury risks? Well to me that seems obvious:
1. anyone who has had a history of injury problems
2. anyone who has just returned from injury
3. anyone from Philadelphia
Check. Check. Check.
I'm joking about #3. Well, kind of.
In any event at Forsberg's price tag I'm not sure he's the guy I want on my team right now.
But the alternatives? Comrie, Stoll, Datsyuk, Weight, Modano?
If only he could have held out for a couple more games, then the slide to Marleau/Thornton would be an easy one.
Who are the sure RV gainers, Forsberg and Comrie I guess?
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| 110 | Tuques
ID: 301044298
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:43
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I'm seeing Datsyuk at a money gainers out of this situation, especially with the B2B starting tonight...
Tuques
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| 111 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:48
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Datsyuk and Forsberg will go up the most. Datsyuk is strictly a temporary solution but he does get to feast on PIT, ATL and FLA, all within the next 4 days. Foppa is Foppa and has lots of green in his schedule well into january. He also costs a lot and his groins are suspectable. He faces off against Columbus tomorrow.
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| 112 | walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 11:50
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Yeah Ira, I have Lundqvist, Redden and Spezza and no trades...and I've been more conserative in making trades this year than any year...Just hammered by injuries. I will be afraid to make any non-injury trades in the future for fear of everyone getting hurt again...kinda crazy....Really opens up the variability for those truly trade-prudent or lucky managers.
- walk
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| 113 | caribou
ID: 241129810
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:19
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Got lucky this past week, Still 2 trades...
So I got to move Spezza, leaning towards Datsyuk, but only for a short term. Would prefer a longer hold !
So my short term plan could go like this
Spezza > Datsyuk (today, against pit, atl, fla) > Marleau or Thornton $$$ depending (friday)....3 games for detroit starting friday compared to 5 for san jose until the Xmas break
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| 114 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:20
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At this point it's looking like Dats for me.
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| 115 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:24
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Ugh, 1 trade left and both Redden and Spezza. Obviously Spezza is the one to go, but I don't have the money for Foppa.
...not that I'd want him. Sure its just my injured pride, but I'm not trading for a guy coming back from an injury anymore this year, unless I have more then 3 trades left.
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| 116 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:27
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Spezza --> Datsyuk --> Thornton looks good on paper but what about Savard then, having both Thornton and Marleau doesn't sound like a great idea.
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| 117 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:30
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113: I was already planning on going to Marleau/Thornton from Savard on 12/16.
If I go with both I may be in the rare situation of having 2 centres from the same team at the same time. I don't know if I've ever had that before. Oh wait... I think for a short time this year I actually had 2 centres from the same LINE... Lang and Williams. :)
This has to be my first time having 2 stud centres from the same team though.
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| 118 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:36
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116: Is it that different from having a C and a W from the same team? Or two wingers (Heatley/Alfredsson for example?) I mean Marleau/Thornton don't even play on the same line.
Now that I think about it, in addition to the obvious "what if San Jose goes into a slump" thing, it does limit options as far as scheduling trades later though.
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| 119 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:39
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could hold Dats until Christmas to see if better options become available later... his schedule does slow down but it includes Columbus and Chicago.
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| 120 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:42
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Yea you answered the initial question in your last paragraph.
With only 3 center-slots to play with, I find having 2 occupied by team-mates very limiting.
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| 121 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:46
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What do you guys think about Doug Weight?
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| 122 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 12:49
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Dont know much about Weight, but Tkachuk is surely enticing.
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| 123 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 13:00
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Spezza -> Datsyuk for a short 3 in 4, then to Thornton. Seems like the popular move, so I'm betting both get hurt soon. ;)
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| 124 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 13:07
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to go from one 'chuk to another on Friday (Kovalchuk > Tkachuk) already. I think Tkachuk is picking up the play of his whole line so Dougie could be worth a look, especially since the first two games are against Pittsburgh and Chicago.
After the current 1 in 4 they have a great schedule for a month.
Sillinger could be a decent cheapie option.
one big strike against them: they are both deep in gravity.
But given the fact that the best alternative seems to involve having to make two trades, this may be a worthwhile gamble. As long as he keeps playing with Tkachuk, I just can't see him staying in gravity.
The only other time I've felt compelled to take a gamble on a guy in gravity it worked out really well for me with Zidlicky - but again that was a similar situation where I was forced to make an unscheduled trade due to Pitkanen's injury and there were just no good alternatives.
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| 125 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 14:01
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Staal is still a good option for Center
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| 126 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 14:35
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Had to move Kovalcuk in order to trade spezza to forsberg. I choose to go with Shanahann / Zetterberg for the replacement on 3 of my teams.
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| 127 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 19:14
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Well I decided to make things interesting and picked up Weight. Here's hoping he and Tkachuk score on PIT and CHI like crazy and cause a few people to pick him up.
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| 128 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 21:58
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I can't believe the news sites I can get to from work had nothing about this. My house flooded due to a leaky water line so I had to take the PC offline last night and didn't bring it up until 20 minutes ago, and I can't use any of my saved trades to get rid of Spezza! ARRRGH!!!!
At least I already had Datsyuk so maybe I'll tread water.
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| 129 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 23:08
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Spezza $-180,000
Ow.
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| 130 | RS
ID: 361022321
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 23:34
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exactly what happened to Lunqvist did he get injured or just being sold cause hes probabbly gonna be splitting time with Weekes?
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| 131 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 23:52
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-360K
yep, almost ready to quit
Lundqvist: -150K
Spezza: -180K
Gagne: -100K
Visnovsky: -50K
Trades: 0
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| 132 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 07:13
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You must've not been a part of the great Legace debacle...
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| 133 | caribou
ID: 241129810
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 07:20
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You would think that in Atlanta Vs detroit game that finished 7 to 6, that Kovalchuk would at lease get a couple of points....but no...mister Ilya got a skinny 7 points.
I'm really starting to think that TkaChunk would be a good pick. So this could be a Friday plan :
Kovalchuk > TkaChunk
Datsyuk > Thornton
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| 134 | caribou
ID: 241129810
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 07:23
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I forgot, with Cloutier out for the next couple of months.... would Aul be a good pick up ?
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| 135 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 07:29
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Auld could be set and forget until April barring injuries, as far as im concerned.
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| 136 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 11:31
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As stated above, I have had him for the past 3 weeks. I lost money but he has produced good points. I lucked oot o the starting assignment extension and Van's schedule is not bad the few weeks. Looks like an easy option.
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| 137 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 11:55
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#135
I find it hard to believe that Van wouldn't make a move for a starting goalie soon.
Sure, I'll ride the Auld train while it lasts, I just don't think it will be that long.
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| 138 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 13:00
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I think I will be sitting on Graham and Auld for as long as I can and direct my meager resources to scoring.
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| 139 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 16:05
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Ahhh I gave in and wasted my last trade on Tellqvist --> Auld. It was between Auld and Kiprusoff and I followed the rule of when unsure, go for the money. Of course, the money won't keep pouring in for too long if the guy gets torched by Forsberg tomorrow.
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| 140 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 19:19
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If Vancouver can play solid, consistent hockey in front of Auld then the likelyless of a significant goalie aquisition is slim to none. I see the possibility of a veteran being added to backup Auld as insurance in case of injury, but as long as the Canucks don't slump big time for a long period of time, due to poor play in goal, then don't look for a big change.
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