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Subject: Week 17 trades!!
Posted by: KoGs
- [52715301] Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 00:58
Only guy I see on my roster needing to go is Visnovsky. Of course if my players continue to play like s***, I might just overhaul my entire team. |
1 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 01:58
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Datsyuk -> Rolston/Crosby Visnovsky -> McCabe?
Kiprusoff -> Anyone but Kiprusoff
What a bust Kipper was... Talk about abysmal. Calgary players always kill me, why the hell didn't i just stay the F away.
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2 | R9 Leader
ID: 02624472 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 07:34
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Lidstrom/Zubov -> Chara/Mccabe
Still not sold on this, and I might hold Zubov and skip Chara. It gains me two games though, Ottawa is due to breakout and gets to play Pittsburgh twice. I have a ton of trades so I might get agressive here.
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3 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 09:58
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Moved Kipper to Thomas... One week late, but Thomas is still playing very well and should hang onto the job at least until the break. It was either he or Broduer, but Brody's got some tough starts against Carolina and then Toronto on HNIC.
Also moved Datsyuk to Rolston. He's less of a +/- risk and averaging slightly higher numbers through recent games vs. Crosby.
Watch all of this blow up in my face. :|
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4 | Little M
ID: 1061810 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 13:04
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Lidstrom -> Pronger
Hoping that Kiprusoff and Ottawa start producing.
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5 | walk Dude
ID: 32928238 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 13:41
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3 Teams: Lidstrom > Pitkanen 3x Kiprusoff > Brodeur 1x Tomorrow, Visnovsky > McCabe 3x Tomorrow, Lundqvist > Brodeur 2x
- walk
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6 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 230111916 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 14:58
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Calgary Phoenix trade: Sauve and Reinprecht to Phoenix for Boucher and Leclerc.
I think it's safe to say I'll be moving Kipper. Calgary has only 4 games til the break and Boucher will most likely get 1 of those games.
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7 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 17:48
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Datysuk to Marleau Doan to Heatley Kiprusoff to Hasek
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8 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 21:18
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Kiprusoff > Brodeur x3 Boucher > McCabe x3 ???
Waffling on this one. I've been quite happy with Boucher, and Toronto has a 3 in 9 coming up right after the Olympic break.
on a hurting Basic team, went Nagy > Alfie Zidlicky > Pitkanen
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9 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 21:47
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why is everyone going to Brodeur with Nabokov and Hasek's schedules?
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10 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 22:08
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Already have Hasek, and I don't like Nabokov.
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11 | walk
ID: 320423020 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 06:11
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6:10am...TSN is down. - walk
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12 | urkel
ID: 289950 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 08:03
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Anyone thinking about moving Jagr for his 1 in 5 / 2 in 7?
Don't love the options with a 3 in 5 starting today. Leaning toward holding until after Saturday's game and then in to Prospal/Smyth/Hemsky for a quick 2 games and back to Jagr. Or just holding Jagr, not sure those guys are worth 2 trades for 2 games right now.
One observation: even if I wanted to move to Ilya today, I couldn't... at 75.5m, my RV is too low, I can't afford him!
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13 | Tuques
ID: 301044298 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 08:40
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I think I'll drop Jagr today for the same reason urkel is stating...
Options are Vancouver, Atlanta or NJD...
I'm looking a Kovalchuk he is due to break out of is slump...
Tuques
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14 | R9 Leader
ID: 02624472 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 11:10
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Kovalchuk has been demoted to the 3rd line. Maybe that lights a fire under his azz, but its a sign he's struggling and playing without much heart.
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15 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 11:37
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Nagy = > Bertuzzi Garon = > Brodeur Lidstrom = > Pitkanen (yesterday)
Turco has a good sched as well and Kipper is staying put.
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16 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 12:22
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I was thinking of using my last trade on Doan to get Bertuzzi or Naslund. The rest of my guys are set until the Olympics, so I'd only get screwed through injury.
What does everyone think of this risk? I gain 2 games, and upgrade a player, but I go 6 nights without a trade..
And who has been better lately, Naslund or Bertuzzi?
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17 | Richard Dude
ID: 204252420 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 12:29
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Ira (#16) - Everytime, including this past week, that I've gone tradeless, I've regretted it. The latest episode was just this past Monday when I used my last trade and was left holding Ovechkin until trades got refreshed. Of course, he had to come up injured and I ate his price loss for a day or two.
Richard
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18 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 13:53
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Ira, if it were me, I would hold Doan. Naslund and Bertuzzi aren't the consistent scorers they used to be, so an extra 2 games from them aren't really worth the risk of going tradeless, IMO.
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19 | walk Dude
ID: 32928238 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 14:36
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Yeah, I have 2 trades and am holding Jagr...not moving to anyone during the NYR lull. I am hoping there are better opportunities for such a move another time. In the meantime, if there are injuries, I have 2 trades to cover me.
- walk
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20 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 230111916 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 14:49
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FWIW, Naslund is skipping the olympics. He's gotta rest a squeaky groin.
Looks like the buffet of juicy wingers has temporarily dried up. You have to really pick through the pile simmering under the heat lamp to find a meaty replacement.
Gagne seems tempting. I like the Montreal (if theodore gets the start), Islander, Washington matchups.
Elias - tough opponents
Prospal - 403 pts in the last 30 days - but only 1 goal...all assists.
Svatos, Tanguay - Someone has to step in to fill Hejduks spot.
I can't hold Jagr...Ranger schedule isn't that good.
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21 | smallwhirled
ID: 170452415 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 16:08
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did Kippy > Broduer.
Gonna do Jagr after his next game to a wing to be determined.
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22 | Caper
ID: 3510101810 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 16:44
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I still have Ovechkin. I sure he plays tonight since I paid a premium to hold onto him........
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23 | Caper
ID: 3510101810 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 18:05
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Here's an interesting tidbit from HockeyInformer. I wonder if it will light a fire under him......
Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers - Kovalchuk has been demoted to the third line for tonight's game against Panthers, reports the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Coach Bob Hartley was not impressed with Kovalchuk's recent play including his illegal stick penalty in Tuesday's loss and stated that he would remain on the third line for the entire game.
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24 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 20:06
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I was thinking about moving Jags to Kovy, but that out the window since i missed Kovy's freeze. Thinking Naslund maybe now. He hasn't been overly explosive this year and for all i know it could be wash in TSNP vs. Jagr, after all is said and done. Hard to believe Naslunds been 100TSNP or better only one time this season...
I may also just do as walk is doing with my 2 trades and just keep Jagr. There will be other opportunities to get games eventually. Thinking...
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25 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 21:51
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I'm definitely holding Jagr for tomorrow's game at least. Still undecided on grabbing 2 Prospal/Smyth/Hemsky games. I'll probably follow Walk's lead and end up holding Jagr and waiting for a better opportunity. I'd rather use two trades to gain two games from someone like Forsberg/Gagne/Demitra.
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26 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 01:13
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Wow, go up 620K one day, down 110K the next
Dang I didnt see Visnovsky's schedule, I gotta trade him..
Turns out I got 2 trades left afterall, so its all good
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27 | walk
ID: 320423020 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 08:40
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I am glad that I went back to Brodeur yesterday. However, a word of caution, and cannot find any updates on this in any local newspapers:
I watched the 3rd period of the game last night on TV. With about 3 minutes remaining, Brodeur made an awkward kick save and then was clearly and repeatedly bending his left knee during subsequent play stoppages. The announcers commented that this was the same knee he had hurt previously. He did not go to the bench to get it checked nor did anyone come over to him on the ice to check on him. He stayed in the game to finish and get his 80th shutout. Still, I was concerned and would not at all be surprised if the devils rested him tonight against Toronto (the guy never rests though). I have checked the NY Times, NY Daily News, Bergen Record, Newark Star Ledger and the NY Post. Nothing (yet).
- walk
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28 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 12:02
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darn, an injury to the most expensive goalie in the game right when he is hottest would just about be par for the course this year, wouldn't it?
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29 | C.SuperFreak Sustainer
ID: 053771616 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 13:55
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it would, it would and you could probably kiss your RV advantage goodbye. Auld, Thomas, and Miller would be suitable replacements for a fraction of the cost.
It'll be insane. Everyone with a 73+mill roster will be able to load up on studs and swap them in and out when player schedules gets light.
The game is starting to resemble the last stages of the Tour de France.
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30 | walk
ID: 320423020 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 14:09
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Still nothing that I can find any of the 5 local newspapers...I'd assume Brodeur is okay, but also would not be too surprised if he got the occasional rest tonight at Toronto. I have no news, and remember, he finished the game last night and was not attended to during the game when he was flexing his knee after a coupla stoppages. This happened late in the 3rd period.
- walk
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31 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 02:06
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wow, talk about unproductive night
Hasek and Nabokov lose.
Thornton, Cheechoo, Alfredsson, Redden, Spezza, Heatley and Marleau ALL shutout!
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32 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 02:37
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Brodeur loses too. Glad I didn't trade Jaromir, he was one of my few bright spots today.
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33 | walk
ID: 320423020 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 08:49
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Ditto here Ira. Amazing feast or famine with the sharks + senators compared to the other night earlier in the week.
- walk
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34 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 10:38
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With all 12 guys going yesterday I got 160 TSNP (mostly Jagr).
With 2 guys going the night before, I got 166 TSNP (Brodeur shutout).
:)
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35 | R9 Leader
ID: 02624472 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 10:42
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An amazing 122 here, what a lame night. Stopped my charge in its tracks. :(
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36 | Joelis
ID: 389331817 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 11:32
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Isn't it sad when we all basically have the same players?
I knew it wasn't a big deal regarding overall standings when I saw how bad all of my guys were doing last night, since everyone was basically in the same boat anyway.
lol!
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37 | Joelis
ID: 389331817 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 11:33
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BTW, I am guessing that I am not the only one looking at my roster today and thinking how much of an RV drop I am going to take over the next two days...
Ugly. :(
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38 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 11:47
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Still waffling over Jagr > Prospal/Smyth.
Only have 20K in the bank on one team, so I sure could use the RV injection.
Marleau has just about played himself off my team. He will probably become Staal on Thursday, barring a huge comeback in his next 2 games.
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39 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 11:55
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joelis, it *is* sad, and the sadder thing is that the only way for this situation to end would be injuries/prolonged slumps for OTT/SJ, given their schedules for the rest of the year.
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40 | urkel
ID: 289950 Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 22:24
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Well, since I have the trades to spare I decided to go for 2 Prospal games, and will go back to Jagr. Hopefully this will pay off RV-wise and pointwise.
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41 | walk Dude
ID: 32928238 Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 09:10
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Forsberg to Play on Feb. 8
FYI, - walk
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42 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591 Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 10:24
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I was planning to move Gagne to Cheechoo, but Cheechoo's recent mini-slump and the return of Forsberg has me reconsidering. I may flip Jagr for Cheechoo on 02/12 instead.
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43 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 18:44
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what mini-slump? he didn't score in his last game, but he had 4 shots on goal, which coincidentally is the exact same as Gagne's performance.
But yeah if you're only gaining 1 game with Cheechoo and Forsberg is returning, then it makes sense to hold Gagne.
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44 | urkel
ID: 289950 Tue, Feb 07, 2006, 01:16
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hmm. I was planning to move Marleau for Staal on Thursday but he's making the decision difficult with his performance tonight.
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45 | Caper
ID: 3510101810 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 13:54
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I guess that I am the only guy making trades today but I am: Jokinen - Sid the Kid Prospal - Jagr
I really wanted Spezza but I already have 2 Senators and they suddenly look human right now. We will see........
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46 | smallwhirled
ID: 170452415 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 16:51
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Ilya > Jagr.
Got some tremendous production out of him from 1/17 to today. Just tremendous.
1/18 - 8 1/19 - 5 1/21 - 10 1/24 - 35 1/26 - 22 1/28 - -14 1/31 - 0 2/3 - 23 2/4 - 43 2/7 - 27
15.9 per game is just outstanding.
My team sucks. All the resources any manager could want. RV - check. Trades - check. Yet, my team continues to go backwards.
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47 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 17:06
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Can't decide between Jagr or Gagne...
I'm finally gettin rid of Doan
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48 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 17:52
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Forsberg's health is a big question mark right now, and Gagne is not nearly as effective without him. I'd go with Jagr.
Forsberg's Status Could Be Clearer Thursday
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49 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 18:58
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just realized I couldnt afford Jagr
got Gagne
still better than Doan
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50 | Ira
ID: 401017811 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 19:15
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wow. Gagne's out with the flu.
Super weak.
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51 | smallwhirled
ID: 170452415 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 19:54
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unreal, freaking gagne
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52 | Richard Dude
ID: 204252420 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 20:11
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Wow - for once I didn't trade into a no-show. I was pretty darn close to picking up Gagne today from Cheechoo but I resisted at the last moment when I remembered one of the guiding principles - "Don't drop a player who is playing today, you will regret it".
Richard
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53 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 21:39
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Why would you drop Cheechoo for Gagne anyways? take a look at my breakdown of Cheechoo's TSNP numbers from before the Thornton trade and after the Thornton trade (I think it was from the trade thread of a couple of weeks ago). Since the trade, he has been putting up the same kind of numbers as Gagne... in fact, much better numbers than Gagne over the same time period; most of Gagne's gaudy numbers came during the first 2 months of the season.
And now with Forsberg's setback yesterday, it just doesn't make sense to make that trade right now, IMO.
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54 | NY Studs
ID: 53142115 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 22:00
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Minus-95 for the Senators on my team. Wow, that hurts. I went from expecting 300+ today to hoping to break even.
Thank you for allowing me to vent.
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55 | walk
ID: 320423020 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 22:02
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Yeah, me too, and likely everyone else...hopefully. I sure am glad that it was at the expense of my NYR! However, dang game was not available in Manhattan! Fickin Knicks-Nets!
- walk
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56 | NY Studs
ID: 53142115 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 22:09
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I'm in NY too. What was that crap? Both MSG and YES had the bball game.
Sens -96 Crosby -8 Visnovsky -24 Zidlicky -24.
I may break 300 after all. In the wrong direction.
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57 | urkel
ID: 480402315 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 22:13
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Jaromir is saving my ass tonight.
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58 | Richard Dude
ID: 204252420 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 23:09
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Urkel (#53) Prbably because I don't know what I'm doing;)
Richard
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59 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 2311413 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 23:12
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Watched the game on TSN. Rangers dominated Ottawa. When the score was 3-1 the broadcasters kept on stating that Ottawa will eventually show up, but it never happened, Rangers pumped in 2 more goals to clinch it. Ottawa managed 2 shots in the 3rd period. Brutal. And the crowd was relentless taunting HASEK the entire 3rd period. Spezza had his bell rung and left for a short while.
Keep an eye out for his status.
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60 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 2311413 Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 23:34
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and yeah I dumped legace. Real smooth move.
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61 | Tuques
ID: 301044298 Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 08:56
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OK, is it time to trade some of my Sens, Spezza might not play tonight and I like the option of Modano or Staal, I'm gaining 1 game and Spezza is not doing anything lately, I'm glade I only have Spezza, Alfredsson and Hasek on my team...
I might also trade Nabokov for Turco or Miller, I don't know yet...
Waiting to see if Spezza is going to play tonight if not he's gone for sure...
Tuques
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62 | urkel
ID: 289950 Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 09:39
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58: Richard, I've read your posts. You clearly do know what you're doing! I just happen to be a Cheechoo zealot, apparently, looking back I've made many posts extolling his virtues. :)
60: ouch!
My Basic team (Thornton, Alfie, Jagr, Cheechoo, Pitkanen, Kipper) vastly outperformed my Ultimate teams (many Sens + many Sharks + Jagr) last night.
Tonight, I will likely go Spezza > Staal.
On my Basic team, I'm thinking about Kiprusoff > Miller (do you guys think Miller will get all 3 starts before the break?)
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63 | Richard Dude
ID: 204252420 Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 10:36
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Seriously, Urkel (#58,#62) - I've only had Cheechoo for his last three games and I've been sorely disappointed (~28pts/gm for the last 7 days). I was thinking that Gagne, especially with the prospect of Forsberg coming back, would/could easily exceed that. Obviously, with Gagne sitting the game out with the flu and Forsberg's return delayed, I'm glad I held Cheechoo. Now, I just need to get a big game from him instead of the disappointment of his last three games.
Richard
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